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Battle of honor

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October 5 1939, the year Hitler hosted a victory parade in defeated Warsaw, announcing that the war with Poland was over. However, at the same time, near the town of Kock, near Lublin, the operational group of the Polish Army Polesye under the command of General František Kleeberg launched an offensive. The government has long fled the country, 28 September fell to Warsaw, but no one gave the general an order to surrender, and he continued to fight.
The "Polesie" group, staffed mainly by natives of Western Belarus, consisted of two infantry divisions, the cavalry division "Zaza" and the Podlask cavalry brigade. Since September 14 she has been in continuous battles. First, the group defended in the Brest region, and after the Soviet troops entered Poland, Kleeberg was ordered to retreat to the Romanian border. But on September 22 the way there was cut off.

After several skirmishes with the Red Army, the general received an offer from the Soviet command to surrender, but he rejected it and led his soldiers to help besieged Warsaw, but it was too late to save her. After receiving a radiogram on the surrender of the capital, he decided to keep the Kock district, reflecting the attacks of the German motorized divisions. All this time the group has not received replenishments, food and ammunition.
By the end of September, provisions had dried up, ammunition and projectiles were running out. However, the 4 of October, the general ordered the counter strike. Of course, he could no longer influence the outcome of a lost war, but this was what the Poles called Walcz o Honor - a battle for honor.

And the next day, when the Führer saluted the military columns from the rostrum, the Poles rejected the Wehrmacht motorized division of the Wehrmacht for a dozen kilometers, knocking the Germans out of the villages of Volya Gulyovsk, Budzishka, Konorzhatka, Charna, Leonardov and capturing more than one of the leaders of the city of ZNV, more than in the Virginians, more than in the virgin, etc.
In this battle, the task force lost about 300 people killed and spent the last ammunition. That night, General Kleeberg, realizing that there was nothing more to fight, wrote his last order worthy of quoting it:
“Soldiers!
From far Polesia I brought you here to fight. Initially, I wanted to go south, and when it became clear that we could not get through, we went to the aid of Warsaw. But the capital fell before we reached it. Despite this, we did not lose hope and fought on. You have shown courage, courage and to the end remained faithful to their homeland.
We are surrounded by no ammunition and provisions. The continuation of hostilities will lead to senseless death. The privilege of the commander is the right to take responsibility. Today, in this difficult moment, I take it upon myself, ordering me to cease fire. Thank you for your valor. I am sure that each of you will continue to fight with the enemy.
Poland has not perished and will not perish. ”
October 6 group "Polesie" folded weapon. General Kleeberg died of a heart attack 5 on April 1941 of the year in a prisoner of war camp near Dresden.





October 5 Hitler 1939 of the year takes the parade of German troops in Warsaw.



General František Kleeberg (right) at the pre-war army parade.



Kleeberg in the dash of the Brest Fortress.



Polish lancers, cavalry general and infantryman in 1939 uniform of the year.



Attack of the Polish cavalry on maneuvers.



Scout plane "Lublin" R-XIII. Two of these aircraft were in the Task Force "Polesie" and used in the battles near Kotsk.



The map of the Battle of Kock. The location and actions of the Polish troops are marked in blue, and the German - in red.





Polish prisoners captured by German troops.



German armored car, shot down under the Kock 5 October 1939, and the grave of the deceased member of his crew.
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  1. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 10 October 2015 07: 12 New
    +7
    Yes, the government was skiing and the army fought serious comrades
    1. bondarencko
      bondarencko 10 October 2015 16: 50 New
      +3
      It was there and on Westerplatte that the last, true Poles remained. Not a couple of the current!
      1. 97110
        97110 10 October 2015 20: 44 New
        0
        Quote: bondarencko
        It was there and on Westerplatte that the last, true Poles remained. Not a couple of the current!

        Well, as from overseas, so of course the "last" and "true". How do these arrogant gentlemen differ from those of today? All the ambition goes into stubborn Russophobia, both then and now. Then the Polish faded and now rushes there. But you won't be able to fight for some honor - everything has been sold. For money, dollars. Also cheap. A bit more decent than ukroamerikantsy. But from the same opera the mise-en-scene.
  2. Nehist
    Nehist 10 October 2015 07: 41 New
    -23
    Article from what? About stupid general ?!
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 10 October 2015 08: 24 New
      17
      Dying, but not giving up.
      After the war, Schaub could not say that the ALL Polish army was a bunch of cowards.
      The general had a notion of officer's honor.
      What can we say about the Czech army ???
      1. Denis DV
        Denis DV 10 October 2015 10: 28 New
        10
        And most importantly, everyone is silent that they come mostly from the imperial army of Russia. Graduated in the best traditions of the Russian army soldier
      2. Russian Uzbek
        Russian Uzbek 10 October 2015 11: 58 New
        +2
        "" The general had a concept of officer honor ""
        then he would shoot himself and not ruin people in vain! or I’d start partisan ... so there’s no assault like sheep
        I agree with Nehist
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 10 October 2015 15: 58 New
          +7
          Quote: Russian Uzbek
          then he would shoot himself and not ruin people in vain! or I’d start partisan ... so there’s no assault like sheep

          So when were our last soldiers fighting heroes, and the Poles - sheep? A normal proposition .... And again, contradict yourself, the Poles gave up their ammunition and supplies surrendered, while ours, without ammunition and food, resisted for months with their bare hands. It turns out that the Poles have also acted smarter? Where is the truth?
        2. python2a
          python2a 10 October 2015 16: 12 New
          +3
          They would give up earlier and everyone would drink Bavarian beer, so that is.
          But those who surrendered drank and ate the balance in the concentration camps, and the valiant General Frantisek Kleeberg did not die from a breakdown of German beer.
      3. 97110
        97110 10 October 2015 20: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: Olezhek
        What can we say about the Czech army ???

        And there, too, an entire half-hour shot ammunition for some time of the day. So that no one could say that the Czechs did not win in World War II.
    2. python2a
      python2a 10 October 2015 16: 07 New
      +7
      An article about the honor and courage of the defenders of the motherland!
  3. latgalec
    latgalec 10 October 2015 08: 22 New
    +3
    The wars that fought for their homeland, it is a pity that at this time there are no such people now. (In Poland )
  4. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 10 October 2015 09: 12 New
    +8
    A man was brave ... The Poles have something to be proud of.
    1. 97110
      97110 10 October 2015 20: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: cth; fyn
      The Poles have something to be proud of.

      Here you are right. Not Romanians couple. So no other country could and does not know how to rude Russia. Even the Ukrainians, with all their efforts, have not yet surpassed Romania.
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 10 October 2015 09: 27 New
    +6
    Who is General Kleeberg for Poland now? After all, he fought against the Germans, who bring democracy from Germany, the German order, but if he surrendered his epaulettes and the army would probably be a hero
    1. whiteeagle
      whiteeagle 10 October 2015 10: 13 New
      -4
      a few days earlier he fought against the Red Army. Interestingly, before the battle with the German troops, he ordered the release of Soviet prisoners of war. But the Soviet soldiers did not want to return to the ranks of the Red Army and they asked to fight together with the Poles against Germany.
      1. 97110
        97110 10 October 2015 20: 51 New
        0
        Quote: whiteeagle
        But the Soviet soldiers did not want to return to the ranks of the Red Army

        Where is the droushka?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 October 2015 21: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: 97110
          Where is the droushka?

          from the rezun, he chopped them a lot, you can feed the trolls all his life yes
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  6. whiteeagle
    whiteeagle 10 October 2015 09: 58 New
    0
    Quote: latgalec
    The wars that fought for their homeland, it is a pity that at this time there are no such people now. (In Poland )

    there are many such people now. Fortunately, there is no need to prove it.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 10 October 2015 10: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: whiteeagle
      Quote: latgalec
      The wars that fought for their homeland, it is a pity that at this time there are no such people now. (In Poland )

      there are many such people now. Fortunately, there is no need to prove it.

      Each person, like the country, chooses their own roles for themselves, someone likes to bow their heads at the sight of an American, and someone immediately gets on all fours, it’s all moral standards, but you can live under a bench in the yard ........ ..
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 10 October 2015 13: 40 New
        0
        and you can live under a bench in the yard


        With free wi-fi yes !!!!! lol

        Good Alcohol + powerful traffic ...
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 10 October 2015 14: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Olezhek
          If you have free wifi fi YES !!!!! Good Alcohol + powerful traffic ...

          As you need a little .....
        2. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 10 October 2015 21: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Olezhek
          and you can live under a bench in the yard


          With free wi-fi yes !!!!! lol

          Good Alcohol + powerful traffic ...



          Why do you need wi-fi in the presence of alcohol? wink
    2. 97110
      97110 10 October 2015 20: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: whiteeagle
      there are many such people now

      Yeah. Even PSam Ukrainian ready to kiss everywhere. There is no need to prove arrogance against the murderers of Polish children. Here are the monuments to Soviet soldiers who gave their lives for the gentry, whose ambition was not enough to defend their homeland, who want to fight as long as necessary. Just to please Uncle Sam. The main ambition is that "America is with them." History teaches nothing. We saw a figure with a goat beard (Uncle Sam), which means - the leader.
  7. cayman gene
    cayman gene 10 October 2015 10: 13 New
    15
    to the question of Polish honor and memory of the fighters against fascism, and what about the Poles, the monument to General Berling in Warsaw, com. We will demolish 1 army of the Polish Army or will it stay until now?
  8. Pissarro
    Pissarro 10 October 2015 10: 17 New
    18
    I can’t imagine our general ordering him to lay down his arms. All European armies considered it their duty to provide the Wehrmacht with symbolic resistance, which supposedly saves their military honor. Poland is no exception. What is the article about? About a general who, having three divisions and a brigade, after losing contact with the high command strikes the Germans with honor, after the loss of three hundred people and the exhaustion of ammunition he puts down his arms with honor.
    Remembering our entourage, leaving to partisan forests, making their way to their own or dying in the last bayonet attack with the words "I die, but I do not give up, goodbye Motherland", it is clear what a mental abyss between a Russian and a European and why we are so terrible
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 10 October 2015 11: 25 New
      -10
      And where did the fascists from the east communists break through from the west.
      1. tolian
        tolian 10 October 2015 12: 13 New
        +5
        How did it happen? Can't remember? I can tell you.
      2. Pissarro
        Pissarro 10 October 2015 14: 07 New
        +2
        Are there few forests in Poland?
      3. 97110
        97110 10 October 2015 21: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: cth; fyn
        And where did the fascists from the east communists break through from the west

        And the country was profiled a long time ago. Continue to ponte on and on. Uncle Sam will give you the support of your arrogance of sergeant-major from American to Pilsudan.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 10 October 2015 11: 27 New
      +8
      Quote: Pissarro
      after the loss of three hundred people and the exhaustion of ammunition, they lay down their weapons with honor.

      Listen to you, so 5 million Soviet prisoners were captured exclusively in an unconscious state.
      A person can’t fight without weapons and ammunition, otherwise it would be enough for everyone to kill 1 Fritz and Germany’s human reserves would come to naught.
      By the way, how many Soviet generals were captured and why didn’t they shoot themselves?
    3. zennon
      zennon 10 October 2015 11: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Pissarro
      I can’t imagine our general ordering him to lay down his arms.

      Here, admire.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 10 October 2015 14: 14 New
        +4
        This ghoul did not order his army to lay down his arms. At the time of his capture, he didn’t have an army either, his Fritz with a woman-cook took a denunciation of a local resident. He began to collaborate with the Germans, but he was not in a hurry to take prisoner
        1. zennon
          zennon 10 October 2015 15: 47 New
          -3
          Quote: Pissarro
          This ghoul did not order his army to lay down arms. At the time of his capture, the army didn’t have

          You are wrong. At the time of capture, he remained the commander of the 2nd shock, or rather its remnants, but the commander. Formally, he did not give an order to surrender, but abandoned his soldiers, actually disorganizing them. In my opinion, this is worse than an order to surrender. There one could talk about an attempt to save their lives, but it's so simple about the most serious crime possible in a war. Personally, I do not consider surrender in captivity in the absence of at least some resources to resist cowardice. This is a subject of a huge separate conversation. Everything is clear with Vlasov. casualties. But simply abandoning the remnants of the troops did much worse. You will have to imagine such "our" general ...
          1. Chak
            Chak 10 October 2015 23: 36 New
            +2
            But the army commissar Zuev, unlike Vlasov, who moved for some reason to the West to the Germans, organized a breakthrough of the remnants of the 2nd Shock Army to the East - for the Volkhov. This is in a situation where the army for several months without ammunition and food continued to fight and almost all died. Zuev could not go out, shoot himself and shoot himself, so as not to be captured.
      2. Panikovsky
        Panikovsky 10 October 2015 20: 59 New
        +7
        Quote: zennon
        Quote: Pissarro
        I can’t imagine our general ordering him to lay down his arms.

        Here, admire.

        you, reptile, know that General Mikhail Grigoryevich Efremov refused to leave his surrounded troops and sent wounded and battle banners by plane, but he shot himself, and the price has long been known to your propaganda.
    4. veteran66
      veteran66 10 October 2015 16: 03 New
      -1
      Quote: Pissarro
      I can’t imagine our general ordering him to lay down his arms.

      Unfortunately, these were, and when captured, they posed for the Germans at the set table in the company of German officers. As for the mentality, a few posts above he was called a ram for the fact that he did lead his troops to storm, risking the lives of his subordinates. Here you have the modern mentality.
      1. Panikovsky
        Panikovsky 10 October 2015 22: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: veteran66
        Quote: Pissarro
        I can’t imagine our general ordering him to lay down his arms.

        Unfortunately, these were, and when captured, they posed for the Germans at the set table in the company of German officers. As for the mentality, a few posts above he was called a ram for the fact that he did lead his troops to storm, risking the lives of his subordinates. Here you have the modern mentality.

        at the end of September 1941 in the tract Shumeykovo near the town of Lokhvitsa, Poltava region, in a battle where everyone, from a soldier, to a com. at the front, Gen.-Pol. Mikhail Petrovich Kirponos, Gen.-m. Tupikov Vasily Ivanovich, in an unconscious state was captured by Gen.-m. Potapov Mikhail Ivanovich. the battle surrounded lasted 5 hours.
  9. whiteeagle
    whiteeagle 10 October 2015 10: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Olezhek
    Dying, but not giving up.
    After the war, Schaub could not say that the ALL Polish army was a bunch of cowards.
    The general had a notion of officer's honor.
    What can we say about the Czech army ???

    The entire Polish army fought bravely. Westerplatte, Defense of Vizna, Battle of Bzur, Defense of the Helsky Spit, Defense of the Brest Fortress in 1939 and many other battles. Ho advantage of the aggressors was too large and the shape of the western border - there was little room for maneuver. The main economic and industrial centers were several tens of kilometers from the border.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 10 October 2015 10: 54 New
      +9
      She fought bravely with the Germans, and before that, Czechoslovakia was brazenly sharing with them what you sow, you will reap.
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 10 October 2015 11: 28 New
        -12
        The union first divided Poland, and then fought with Germany, we also put pens, but who knew what would turn out like this?
        1. 97110
          97110 10 October 2015 21: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: cth; fyn
          we also put pens

          And the bellies too, "attached". For all the bestial "philanthropy" of the Romanians, we don't remember them without laughing. And today's behavior of a gypsy camp without pants, encroaching on the dispensation of great Romania, causes a feeling of extreme disgust. Like the newfound hosts from across the ocean, I guess. Democrats, I get it. The maxim itself probably squeezed out a tear from the attempts of these adherents of the power of the American people.
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 10 October 2015 11: 00 New
      +4
      with all this, there is no information about the partisan movement in Poland, with the theater of operations completely identical with Belarus, the Poles, unlike the Belarusians, after the rout of the regular troops were defeated, did not consider it their duty to continue the struggle against the aggressor in their own land
      1. veteran66
        veteran66 10 October 2015 16: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: Pissarro
        after the rout of regular troops was defeated, they did not consider it their duty to continue the struggle against the aggressor in their land

        Not quite so, there were scattered units, but these units are nothing compared to the organized movement. In our country, too, partisans became a force, only after the organization of the headquarters of the partisan movement and only by 1943 did they become a real threat to the fascists.
      2. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 10 October 2015 20: 56 New
        +1
        Have you heard about Krajnova’s army?
      3. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 10 October 2015 20: 56 New
        0
        Have you heard about Krajnova’s army?
    3. tolian
      tolian 10 October 2015 12: 18 New
      +4
      What do you know about Westerplatte? The world knows about the defense of the Brest Fortress by Soviet soldiers. But who rarely hears about the Poles who "defended" her. Poland, as a subject of history, is a prostitute. No more. And she gets it, as the representatives of this profession deserve. After all, they themselves admit - we suck ....... And they will suck.
      1. Pushkar
        Pushkar 10 October 2015 15: 30 New
        0
        The Westerplatte fortress defended for the longest time in Poland - as much as a week. Heroes
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 10 October 2015 16: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Pushkar
          The Westerplatte fortress defended for the longest time in Poland - as much as a week. Heroes

          Well, of course, think, just a week, chickens laugh !!! 185 people against 3500, one 76-mm gun against 4 x 280 mm, 10 x 150 mm and 4 x 88 mm from the Battleship, plus 65 land guns and U-87 aircraft. Well, yes, it’s for us, room generals,
          1. 97110
            97110 10 October 2015 21: 16 New
            0
            Quote: veteran66
            from battleship

            Not just, but the grandfathers of the German fleet. Could drown from age on the occasion of what happened on board artillery firing.
            1. veteran66
              veteran66 10 October 2015 22: 07 New
              0
              Quote: 97110
              Could drown from age

              the irony is inappropriate here, because when 50 kg of TNT falls on your head no matter from which ship, old or new, it flew in.
      2. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 10 October 2015 20: 43 New
        -4
        Between us girls, the Poles defended the Brest Fortress much more successfully than the Soviet troops, after the defense the bulk of the Polish troops organizedly left the fortress. The Soviet troops did not have, and could not have, organized defense of the fortress, because there was no such connection Brest Fortress. There was a desperate resistance of individual units and groups of Soviet soldiers, and the soldiers here are absolutely not to blame, they honestly performed their duty!
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 10 October 2015 22: 16 New
          +3
          Our Brest Fortress lasted longer than the whole of Poland smile
          In general, the successful defense of the fortress is not to leave it organized. It may be the case with the Poles, but with the defense of the fortress the Russians have the task of forging the enemy against its walls and preventing it from advancing deep into the country. The 45th Austrian division was hanging out there for a month, instead of advancing deep into the USSR
          1. Starina_hank
            Starina_hank 12 October 2015 18: 25 New
            0
            A successful defense is to detain the enemy at the line of defense, to allow the command to take appropriate measures, etc. The German troops simply went around the fortress and went on to Minsk, where they surrounded the remnants of the armies of the Bialystok ledge. There was no single defense leadership in the fortress, and no one even bothered to prepare a defense plan! Only thanks to the exceptional courage of Soviet soldiers did the fortress last for a long time!
          2. Starina_hank
            Starina_hank 12 October 2015 18: 25 New
            0
            A successful defense is to detain the enemy at the line of defense, to allow the command to take appropriate measures, etc. The German troops simply went around the fortress and went on to Minsk, where they surrounded the remnants of the armies of the Bialystok ledge. There was no single defense leadership in the fortress, and no one even bothered to prepare a defense plan! Only thanks to the exceptional courage of Soviet soldiers did the fortress last for a long time!
        2. 97110
          97110 15 October 2015 21: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Starina_Hank
          the Poles defended the Brest Fortress much more successfully than the Soviet troops,

          The barricade of Renault-17 tanks at the gates of the fortress is especially impressive. Where to ours. They could not build barricades from tanks.
      3. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 10 October 2015 20: 55 New
        0
        Between us girls, the Poles defended the Brest Fortress much better than the Soviet troops. After the defense, the Polish troops organizedly retreated. The Soviet troops did not provide for the defense of the fortress and did not organize, therefore, in the Brest Fortress there was a desperate resistance of certain units and groups of military personnel.
    4. 97110
      97110 10 October 2015 21: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: whiteeagle
      and the shape of the western border - there was little room for maneuver.

      And there were no borders with the Russians; they were not going to fight there. They planned to divide Russia with the Germans. Like Czechoslovakia. And they got it. What you get now.
    5. cayman gene
      cayman gene 10 October 2015 23: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: whiteeagle
      ALL Polish army fought bravely

      she, this Polish army, fought very bravely, but for a very short time, in 2 months the courage dried up, and such-and-such, nowhere worthless and bastard Red Army raked and dried the invincible Wehrmacht and outweighed the Führer Pachans like garbage rats.
  10. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 10 October 2015 10: 50 New
    0
    The article that, as a general in 41, fulfilled his duty to the end, in accordance with the concept of officer honor, while there was an opportunity to fight (ammunition, fuel, etc.) and it was not for us (after almost 75 years) to judge his actions to protect the state (which entrusted him with its defense) and for which he gave his life.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 10 October 2015 11: 05 New
      +7
      to the end, this is when you died with a weapon in your hands, and did not surrender. He gave his life after 2 years in a prisoner of war camp from a heart attack, and not on the battlefield. I absolutely do not judge this Pole, against the background of the others he is just a hero Poland, but it is absolutely inappropriate to write "to the end" here. "Until the end" this was forty-first in Brest
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 10 October 2015 11: 30 New
        -2
        Do not confuse them and us, he fulfilled his duty to the end, but by the standards of Europe, and we are different.
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 10 October 2015 14: 04 New
          +2
          So I don’t confuse, I write, the mental gap between the Russian and European character
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 10 October 2015 14: 57 New
            -1
            Quote: Pissarro
            So I don’t confuse, I write, the mental gap between the Russian and European character

            From not to be confused.
            And Port Arthur? And Novogeorgievsk? (In Novogeorgievsk 83.000 people were captured, including 23 generals and 2100 officers (moreover, the commandant of the fortress, cavalry general N.P. Bobyr ran to the enemy). As trophies, the enemy got 1204 guns and more than a million shells) And Kovno? (A trial was held in Minsk on September 19-26, 1915. The Dvinsky military-district special presence. In other words, a tribunal! They tried Vladimir Nikolayevich Grigoryev, three times holder of the highest award of the Russian Empire - the Order of St. .Vladimir of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th degree (with a bow), Shipka's hero, graduate of the Kazan Infantry Junker School and the Nikolaev Academy of the General Staff of the Russian Empire, the former chief of staff of the Warsaw Fortress, the former commandant of the Oganovo Fortress, the former commandant of the Sevastopol Fortress , and from July 1909, the commandant of the Kovno fortress, a cavalry general. The verdict of the tribunal read:
            “For all the reasons stated and on the basis of capital punishment ... the special presence of the Dvina Military District Court ruled: the defendant, the former commandant of the Kovno fortress, cavalry general V.N. Grigoriev, who was found guilty of unlawful inaction of the authorities, which amounted to neglect of proper orders to bring fortresses in a defensive position and in unauthorized abandonment during a battle of a fortress that was not caused by the performance of a duty of service, under circumstances reducing its guilt, by depriving of military knowledge, ranks, orders, signs and medals, the nobility and all rights of state to be excluded from military service and exiled to hard labor for 15 years with consequences. ")
            So there is no need here about heroism .... At all times and in captivity they surrendered and panicked and showed cowardice.
            Soviet generals in German captivity:
            As of January 11, 2015, this list contains 86 people:

            2 people whose fate is not clarified;
            6 people escaped from captivity;
            27 people killed in captivity;
            24 people restored to their rights;
            27 people who were arrested and convicted (5 - hanged in the case of the "Vlasovites", 17 - shot on the basis of order of Bet No. 270 of August 16, 1941, 3 - died in custody, 2 - restored to their rights after imprisonment).
            1. Pissarro
              Pissarro 10 October 2015 15: 27 New
              +4
              what are you talking about? The fact that some Russians give up. So I don’t argue. There are some. The difference is that Russians have some and Europeans have it. That is, we have a deviation from the norm, they have a norm. But I’ll listen about European Brest or Stalingrad, if such a bike was littered in the dusty archives of European military history laughing
              1. veteran66
                veteran66 10 October 2015 16: 21 New
                0
                Quote: Pissarro
                The difference is that the Russians are some, and the Europeans are all.

                But what about the "miracle on the Vistula"? The same Poles and the same Russians, even Soviet ones. Who stood there to the last? Drapali right up to Germany, who had time, and who did not have time - captured.
              2. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 10 October 2015 17: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Pissarro
                The difference is that the Russians are some, and the Europeans are all

                Some of these are 5 million prisoners in the Second World War and 2 in the First?
        2. 97110
          97110 10 October 2015 21: 25 New
          0
          Quote: cth; fyn
          Do not confuse them and us,

          And you can’t confuse a Romanian with anyone. This is a special nation, even the Poles did not lie nearby.
    2. 97110
      97110 10 October 2015 21: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Andryukha G
      and not for us (

      Well, do not fuss. For Russia, this is the enemy. And now this is the ENEMY. And you, behind the banner of the USSR, can reason on all sorts of abstract topics. Half of the world against Russia, half of the world with a lazy feeling of idle curiosity, they observe who will take, and you write some kind of Romanian crap. Designate your nationality, do not hesitate to betray the memory of the feat of the Soviet people.
  11. 1536
    1536 10 October 2015 11: 07 New
    +5
    The fact that everything is separate in Poland: the government, the army and the people is neither a secret nor a revelation. And the fact that the Poles have always surrendered to the "mercy of the winner" is also known to everyone. And the described episode and the "soldiers of Westerplatte", the Warsaw "uprising", etc. the history of the state called Poland and existing at the will of other states - England, Russia, Germany, now the USA. Hence the fear and hatred of the Russians, who, as you know, do not give up!
    The question is different. Why are the Poles all over the world deploying American troops and their heavy equipment on their territory today, building infrastructure for them? Do they want revenge again, or is this another "last" burst of national consciousness? The end will be one. And the listed events confirm this. And then again a vicious circle. Up to the stake?
    1. dv_generalov
      dv_generalov 10 October 2015 11: 34 New
      +1
      This is Pilsudski's disease, in my opinion their national tradition. The words he voiced in the 20s: "... Poland from sea to sea ...." still excites their minds. Hence such attempts and aspirations. There is one bad thing in quotes, for the Poles, that in this way they lose their sovereignty and their revenge will lead the country to collapse, already now the bulk of the working population is working and mainly lives outside Poland. After all, it is not for nothing that they in Germany and their "Beloved England" are called a nation - plumbers and cleaners. Here is the answer ..
      1. avt
        avt 10 October 2015 19: 41 New
        0
        Quote: dv_generalov
        This is Pilsudski's disease, in my opinion their national tradition. The words he voiced in the 20s: "... Poland from sea to sea ...." still excites their minds. Hence such attempts and aspirations.

        This disease was diagnosed by the authors of the Communist Manifesto - "The lot of Poles in history is bold nonsense." In my opinion, for sure, since the teachings of Mordechai Levi / Karl Marx are correct. smile
  12. dv_generalov
    dv_generalov 10 October 2015 11: 27 New
    0
    Thanks to the author for the article, beautifully written on the topic. But it is a pity that there is no description of what happened with the prisoners of war in the German filtration camps, because the general did not just die of a heart attack. The theme of fidelity and betrayal will always be present in the war.
  13. kvs207
    kvs207 10 October 2015 11: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: whiteeagle
    The entire Polish army fought bravely. Westerplatte, Defense of Vizna, Battle of Bzur, Defense of the Helsky Spit, Defense of the Brest Fortress in 1939 and many other battles

    It seems to me that the scale of these battles was small. I read somewhere that under Westerplatte, there were about 300 Polish soldiers. And, you can compare the integrity of the Brest Fortress, after the Polish defense and after ours.
    "How long did the defense of Westerplatte actually last? For many decades it was considered 7 days. And then another confusion with the facts arises. The attack began on September 1 at 4:48, and the white flag was flown on September 7 at 9:30 Thus, it turns out that Westerplatte defended exactly 6 days, 4 hours and 42 minutes.

    The second question that interests both us and you concerns the number of victims on both sides. Some sources claim that the Wehrmacht lost about a thousand soldiers, others - 300-400. But we already know that the number of German troops at Westerplatte was rather modest. According to recent studies, the number of Wehrmacht soldiers killed is only 50 people, and about 150 wounded. As for the casualties on the Polish side, the losses of the Rzeczpospolita army near Westerplatte are estimated at 15 killed and about 40 wounded. "
    Taken from here
    http://www.rech-pospolita.ru/bitva-za-vesterplatte-kak-zhe-eto-bylo.html
    1. tolian
      tolian 10 October 2015 12: 29 New
      +3
      In the 60s I was at the Westerplatte memorial. I heard officialdom, but I also heard about the real situation there. Polish "heroism" sucked out of the finger. Well, they won't tell you that the government fled from Poland in about two weeks. And the army scattered.
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 10 October 2015 13: 10 New
        +4
        The government faded not in two weeks, but in just a couple of days. But to hell with him, with the government. Where did the General Staff of Poland shed? Can anyone find at least one radiogram from Warsaw troops ?. The General Staff faded on the second day to Brest WITHOUT COMMUNICATIONS. And he walked somewhere until September 16th. When heroically crossed the border with Romania.

        Even if individual soldiers and even units fought bravely. What does this change in protecting the homeland? Nothing. The Polish army, despite somewhere and some kind of heroism, showed a complete inability to defend the country. And literally in August, a strike group was formed to march on Berlin. And they refused to help.

        On September 3, 1939, the Polish government left Warsaw.
        --------
        On September 3, 1939, the commander, Marshal Rydz-Smigly, ordered the Polish troops to retreat towards Romania. The order said: "... to orient the axis of withdrawal of our armed forces not just east, towards Russia, connected by the pact with the Germans, but southeast, towards union Romania and Hungary favorably referring to Poland." The order entered the army on September 5, 1939.
        ---------
        On the night of September 6-7, 1939, the commander of the Polish army Edward Rydz-Smigly left Warsaw, taking with him part of the anti-aircraft artillery and the entire fighter air brigade that covered the capital. Leaving Warsaw the commander forgot the codes for the radio station there, because of which he could not lead the troops.
      2. veteran66
        veteran66 10 October 2015 16: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: tolian
        I heard officialdom, but I also heard about the real situation there. Polish "heroism" sucked out of the finger.

        You know, on the second day, twice as many servicemen surrendered to the Germans in the Brest Fortress than there were left, but this also did not enter into our "officialdom". People are brought up in different ways. If all of us were like the last defenders of the fortress, it is unlikely that the Germans would have reached Moscow.
  14. Black cat
    Black cat 10 October 2015 12: 20 New
    +1
    Poland fought bravely, already for almost a month, against the Wehrmacht, which did not yet have real combat experience, still very weak technically, with a theater of warfare convenient for defense and partisan operations. What is the heroism of surrender? In a pointless attack, they spent the last ammunition and surrendered, this is heroism! Partisanism or, to the last, still trying to break through is not an honor. What is this article about?
    1. veteran66
      veteran66 10 October 2015 16: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: Black cat
      or until the very end still try to break through

      where? Tearing where, in which direction do not step, Germans everywhere. And the Poles, by the way, were advancing
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 10 October 2015 16: 33 New
        0
        Quote: veteran66
        And the Poles, by the way, were advancing

        To Warsaw .... laughing Found a warrior ..
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 10 October 2015 22: 10 New
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          Quote: Alex28
          To Warsaw ....

          and it was necessary to Berlin?
  15. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 October 2015 13: 11 New
    0
    At least this general did not escape to Britain after the first shots at the border ...
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 10 October 2015 14: 06 New
      +3
      De Gaulle fled to Britain to organize resistance. Anyway, there is more sense in escaping to Britain than in surrendering.
      1. veteran66
        veteran66 10 October 2015 22: 12 New
        -1
        Quote: Pissarro
        De Gaulle fled to Britain to organize resistance.

        Actually, then De Gaulle first surrendered, and then fled from there. And if you carefully read the article, you noticed that the general took responsibility and all the shame for surrendering, and the soldiers said that their right to fight further with the Germans, which they did
  16. whiteeagle
    whiteeagle 10 October 2015 15: 18 New
    -7
    Quote: 1536
    The fact that everything is separate in Poland: the government, the army and the people is neither a secret nor a revelation. And the fact that the Poles have always surrendered to the "mercy of the winner" is also known to everyone. And the described episode and the "soldiers of Westerplatte", the Warsaw "uprising", etc. the history of the state called Poland and existing at the will of other states - England, Russia, Germany, now the USA. Hence the fear and hatred of the Russians, who, as you know, do not give up!
    The question is different. Why are the Poles all over the world deploying American troops and their heavy equipment on their territory today, building infrastructure for them? Do they want revenge again, or is this another "last" burst of national consciousness? The end will be one. And the listed events confirm this. And then again a vicious circle. Up to the stake?

    Believe me, Russians are giving up. In 1920, there were more Russian soldiers in Polish camps than Polish soldiers in Russian camps. During World War II, more Soviet soldiers died in German camps in Poland than in battle. In addition, you remember that the history of the state called Poland is very long. The success of the German-Russian alliance against Poland is only 200 years old. If it were not for the senseless quarrel between friends Poland and Turkey in the second half of the seventeenth century, Russia and Prussia would have had no chance of developing strength. In addition, you are not afraid of American tanks. These are just a few. This is not against Russia. This is to fight terrorists who buy tanks and missiles in the store.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 10 October 2015 15: 22 New
      +4
      In addition, you are not afraid of American tanks. These are just a few. This is not against Russia. This is to fight terrorists who buy tanks and missiles in the store.


      Yes, we are not afraid, moreover, against these terrorists we also set the Iskanders in Kaliningrad, exclusively against them, you also don’t worry laughing
    2. 97110
      97110 10 October 2015 21: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: whiteeagle
      If not for a quarrel between friends Poland and Turkey in the second half of the seventeenth century

      I cried. But what about the Polish ambition? Was the salvation of Vienna, so long and loudly contested among the Germans, just a pointless quarrel between friends? There is no such thing even in the "magnificent century". Friends ... Abaldet!
  17. Nehist
    Nehist 10 October 2015 15: 22 New
    +2
    Oh, how they messed me up! I will tell the truth - Heroism of some is the inability of others.
  18. shisha321
    shisha321 10 October 2015 17: 29 New
    +2
    The battle for honor in this performance is more like a battle for stupidity. For what it was to advance, the outcome was known in advance, if only to use up ammunition. It was possible to organize a partisan movement, or if you really wanted to die, go on the attack in the forefront.
    As a general, he should have understood that this was a futile attempt.
    When ours broke out of the encirclement, they went to continue the resistance in the army further, and where did he go?
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 10 October 2015 20: 33 New
      -4
      Our country is big. There was where to go to fight on. The Poles had nowhere to go. But in the 39th they already fought against fascism. Remind me who we fought with. To whom we helped. Who were our friends?
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 10 October 2015 22: 19 New
        +3
        I recall that in 1939 they fought with the allied fascists of Japan, and the Mongols helped us allied with us. Mongolia and Tuva were our only friends in 1939
  19. samarin1969
    samarin1969 10 October 2015 21: 14 New
    +2
    One elderly Orthodox elderly woman from near Brest told me about September 1939 ... Many Belarusians were called up at the start of the war. Then, she said, the Polish officers quickly fled to their estates. Left without leadership, the soldiers (mostly Belarusians) surrendered. Her brother was also captured and after the war ended up in Australia ... The actions of General Kleeberg were perhaps worthy. But calling it "BATTLE" is just ridiculous ...
  20. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 10 October 2015 21: 37 New
    0
    On the 39th there were two worthy episodes in the Polish company - the "miracle at Bzura" and the defense of Warsaw.
    In that strategic situation, it made no sense. But people just tried to resist. Waiting for help from the Western allies. England certainly helped. But not at once. The Anglo-Saxons do not rush at once to rush to someone's aid.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht 11 October 2015 12: 38 New
      0
      England certainly helped. But not at once.


      Smiled ....

      From September 3 to 27, only the British Air Force brought down 18 million leaflets on the heads of German inhabitants. As aviation marshal Arthur Harris, who later became famous for carpet bombing of German cities, remarked self-critically: “The only thing we achieved was to provide the European continent with toilet paper for five long years of war” (Mason D. “A Strange War”)

      -----
      in early September, one of the leaders of the Labor Party, Hugh Dalton, proposed setting fire to the Black Forest with incendiary bombs to deprive the Germans of timber, the Kingsley Wood Minister of Aviation categorically refused, citing the fact that such actions were contrary to the Hague Convention.

      It was also refused to the prominent leader of the Conservative Party Leopold Emery, who turned to Wood with a similar proposal on September 5. Struck by the legal illiteracy of his party member, Sir Kingsley indignantly declared: “What you, this is impossible. This is private property. You still ask me to bomb the Ruhr ”(Mosley L. Lost time. How World War II began)
  21. saygon66
    saygon66 10 October 2015 23: 14 New
    +2
    - Forgot to mention a man who also did not give up ... Lieutenant of the Japanese Imperial Army Hiro Onoda!
    - Until the 1974 year, partisan in the Philippines ...
  22. Zai pali
    Zai pali 11 October 2015 01: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    Waiting for help from the Western allies ..


    This is the whole history and mentality of this nation.
  23. Disant
    Disant 11 October 2015 02: 22 New
    0
    as I understand it, he is not the only one:
    “What do you suppose: can any of the Japanese soldiers still hide in the depths of the jungle, not knowing that the Second World War has ended?”

    “Perhaps, because my case was not the last.” In April 1980, captain Fumio Nakahira surrendered, who hid for 36 years in the mountains of the Philippine island of Mindoro. It is possible that someone else remained in the forests ...

    “But if Major Taniguchi had not canceled his order, would you still be at war?”

    - Yes.
  24. Disant
    Disant 11 October 2015 02: 48 New
    0
    Hiro Onoda - during his partisan war, killed more than 30 people, injured -100. surrendered to the authorities only after his former commander was brought from Japan to the forest, who drove through the forest with a mouthpiece and ordered to surrender.
    surrendered in full gear - a sword, a working rifle, 500 rounds, 2 grenades, in the form of the Armed Forces of Japan.
    .
    our person
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 11 October 2015 16: 46 New
      0
      laughing Who argues ... Our ... only this is what those who he shot after 45 and later thought about it ...
  25. arrows
    arrows 11 October 2015 05: 23 New
    +1
    For some reason, the Polish prisoners in excellent uniforms, well, it won’t remain what it is if you participate in battles, and again, Belarusians fought for zheks. Here, for free from the Czechs, the Czechs chop off the territory, these are psheks, drape, this is also psyche, and stand to death they are Russians and Belarusians. the battle of Grunwald, it eloquently describes it. And this event is described not by Russian historians, but by German, which is natural to Psheks, to Grunwald's city, but the Germans will not rewrite, for the sake of Psheks,
  26. Black cat
    Black cat 11 October 2015 11: 06 New
    0
    Quote: veteran66
    where? Tearing where, in which direction do not step, Germans everywhere. And the Poles, by the way, were advancing

    As described in the article, the Germans did not carry out operations to surround the specified group, and I think it was not the only formation that had not yet had time to surrender. So, the general could, on the basis of his group, gather around him the remaining forces, if not for a full-fledged war, then at least for the partisan movement. Moreover, the Poles had no connection with the high command, the government had already dumped quietly into Romania, so the general could not know the whole severity of the situation, he just decided that enough was enough to fight, I would conduct the last attack and surrender. Here is such a hero.
  27. Black cat
    Black cat 11 October 2015 11: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    Our country is big. There was where to go to fight on. The Poles had nowhere to go. But in the 39th they already fought against fascism. Remind me who we fought with. To whom we helped. Who were our friends?

    The USSR fought against fascism back in Spain, offered free aid to the President of Czechoslovakia Benes, the USSR was ready to support the Czechs in any situation and on any conditions, in fact, was the only country that stood up for Czechoslovakia. But Poland was just an ally of the Third Reich and diligently destroyed all efforts to create an anti-Hitler coalition in the 30s. By the way, according to an agreement with the British and French, the Polish army had to independently hold out against the Wehrmacht from 2 weeks to 1 month, relying on natural water barriers. In principle, the Poles could do it, Poland was not a "European dwarf", but they fought so bravely that in 17 days they were completely defeated, the government fled to Romania, and the rest of the troops surrendered without a fight, or with a "battle for honor ", and only then did the USSR enter the war, when in fact Poland no longer existed.