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Erdogan threatens to terminate the "gas" and "atomic" contracts with the Russian Federation if the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces continue to violate the air borders of Turkey

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The Turkish President said that in connection with the violation of Turkish airspace by the airspace of the Russian Federation of Aircraft Ankara may revise earlier economic decisions. In particular, Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey may refuse to implement the Turkish Stream project, as well as suspend work on the coordination of the construction of the Akkuyu nuclear power plant under the Rosatom project.
LifeNews Erdogan’s statement to translate the fragment:


If the Russians do not build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, someone else will build it.




Meanwhile, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu claims that the Russian side has apologized for the violation of the airspace, and therefore the incidents will not entail a deterioration in relations between Turkey and Russia. In addition, the Turkish Ministry of Defense says that they have begun consultations with the Russian side in order to subsequently avoid accidental entry of Russian fighters performing missions in Syria into the Turkish airspace.

Recall that Turkey and Russia signed a contract for the construction of a gas pipeline, which will run under the Black Sea. The pipeline will reach the border with the EU, and then the European countries will decide to extend the branches deep into the territorial association.
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  1. fregina1
    fregina1 8 October 2015 12: 27 New
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    Oh yes, and you ask for ... to support the idea of ​​Greater Kurdistan !!! And ento is almost 4 part of Turkey!
    And then a regional power such as Turkey, as a language, a cow licked!
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    2. War and Peace
      War and Peace 8 October 2015 12: 29 New
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      in general, the Kurds are such Ukrainians for Turkey, in order to overturn the country on its back, it is necessary to arm the Kurds under the guise of "democracy" and "freedom of self-determination", the Kurds are stubborn guys and know how to fight and the Turks will not seem a little like this Maidan, Turkey is a member NATO, therefore our enemy, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend, it is a pity that the Kremlin does not understand this. It's a pity that Russia, instead of supporting its ally, is flirting with a NATO member ...
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 8 October 2015 12: 32 New
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        Erdogan is furious and hysterical. The election results are not clear to him. Works on the image in front of voters.
        1. i80186
          i80186 8 October 2015 12: 33 New
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          I will frostbite my ears to evil. Well, so funny. smile
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 8 October 2015 12: 38 New
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            Quote: i80186
            I will frostbite my ears to evil.


            Bam! The puppeteer pulled the rope and the puppet puffed out his cheeks. bully
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 8 October 2015 12: 46 New
              15
              Quote: Lelek
              Bam! The puppeteer pulled the rope and the puppet puffed out his cheeks.

              The Saudis, with contracts for the construction of a nuclear power plant and the purchase of weapons, are in line. They have already proposed reducing oil production in exchange for a change in Russia's position in Syria.
              However, the Russian government made it clear that bargaining is inappropriate here and blackmail will not work.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 8 October 2015 12: 56 New
                37
                Never traveled to Turkey and did not intend to,
                and now - especially not going

                Maybe they expect that millions of Americans will go to them?

                1. Buffalo
                  Buffalo 8 October 2015 13: 00 New
                  +5
                  Erdogan realized that he has no other way than to support the United States. Understands, obviously, that Turkey will not become after that. And therefore such decisions ..
                  His hopes for a revival of the Ottoman Empire, from the Caspian to the Mediterranean Sea, came across a wall erected by Putin.
                  1. Darkmor
                    Darkmor 8 October 2015 13: 28 New
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                    And the contracts have a fad that they can be canceled unilaterally if the planes violate the airspace?
                    Usually, such things involve either agreement with all parties to the contract or the payment of a serious penalty (recall Mistral).

                    И вот жеж незадача, контракты с "Турецким потоком" начали пробуксовывать до того, как началась наша операция в Сирии.
                    And the contract for the construction of a nuclear power plant block was earlier delayed by the Turks themselves, for some internal reasons.
                    Erdogan now wants to convince us that the planes are to blame?

                    Well, you do not want to expand your energy and gas transportation system, your business. You will not be forcibly sweet. Does someone hold your eggs? - this is your business.
                    Pay us the penalty stipulated by the contracts, and we will say goodbye.
                    У нас и так хватает "друзей", готовых нас олбапошить при любом удобном случае, еще один такой, в виде Турции нам даром не нужен.
                    Erdogan does not understand this? What did he count on when concluding contracts?

                    Нам нужен сильный друг, с которым можно говорить на равных и который не будет прогибаться от любого дуновения "северно-атлантического" ветра. Я, год назад, признаться, подумал, что Эрдоган может быть таковым. Видно, ошибся. Но лучше уж признать ошибку сейчас, чем не верить глазам своим до последнего.
                    Let's see if Erdogan will be replaced by a politician who considers Turkey’s interests more important than NATO’s?
                    1. g1v2
                      g1v2 8 October 2015 13: 57 New
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                      The Turkish stream after the signing of the Nord Stream 2 Treaty is no longer so important. THE ROSATOM OF CONTRACTS FOR 300 BILLION DOLLARS FOR 10 YEARS FORWARD CONCLUDED. Th scared a hedgehog with a bare ass. But still a strange thing. After the words of GDP about the Armenian Genocide, relations with Turkey sharply cooled, but then Erdogan arrives at the opening of the cathedral mosque and talks with Putin in a friendly manner. The Turkish stream does not advance, but thanks to him, the Germans agreed to Nord Stream 2. Syria has a bad temperament, but after Erdogan ousted a million refugees at once, Europe’s attitude towards the Russian Aerospace Forces operation in Syria is quite loyal. So nothing is clear there.
                    2. veksha50
                      veksha50 8 October 2015 14: 06 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Darkmor
                      Let's see if Erdogan will be replaced by a politician who considers Turkey’s interests more important than NATO’s?



                      Too bad, but it's just a dream ...

                      By and large, the geopolitical interests of Russia and Turkey are unlikely to find mutual understanding between each other ...

                      PS Damn, it would be our Bosphorus, and you could forget about Turkey ...
                      1. Mahmut
                        Mahmut 8 October 2015 15: 41 New
                        +2
                        If the Russians do not build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, someone else will build it.

                        Either someone else will build, or Russians will still build it, but in a different place.
                  2. Maxom75
                    Maxom75 8 October 2015 13: 42 New
                    +5
                    Проект АЭС "Аккую" надо расторгать, нам это не выгодно. Стоимость строительства около 22 миллиардов долларов, срок окупаемости 60-80 лет. Срок эксплуатации 100 лет, т.е. я как и большинство здесь присутствующих за счёт своих налогов будем снабжать эл. энергией турок. Мне это надо? Проект большой Османской империи накрылся для Эрдогана давно, а после перевыборов в парламент, он станет вообще номинальной фигурой (король Швеции) вроде есть, а решения он не принимает. Вот и бесится от бессилия. Курдов стоит поддержать, чтобы туркам не скучно жить было. Дать оружие и научить ведению диверсионной борьбы, чтобы восток Турции запылал. Тогда ему не до наших самолётов будет.
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              3. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 8 October 2015 13: 06 New
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                Quote: GRAY
                The Saudis, with contracts for the construction of a nuclear power plant and the purchase of weapons, are in line. They have already proposed reducing oil production in exchange for a change in Russia's position in Syria.
                However, the Russian government made it clear that bargaining is inappropriate here and blackmail will not work.

                The Saudis have already thrown an iPhone at the time, promising to buy a bunch of our equipment, in exchange for refusing to supply Iran with already paid S-300s. So no one will step on the rake.
              4. veksha50
                veksha50 8 October 2015 13: 54 New
                +1
                Quote: GRAY
                The Saudis, with contracts for the construction of a nuclear power plant and the purchase of weapons, are in line. They have already proposed reducing oil production in exchange for a change in Russia's position in Syria.



                There, something in the news flashed that ISIS had set fire to some oil pipelines today (where I did not really understand) ...

                Well, the IS is such a strange thing ... maybe the Saudis - in gratitude for the funding - to jerk when they don’t like something ...

                So for now, keep quiet about oil, let's wait how the situation will develop ...
          2. veksha50
            veksha50 8 October 2015 13: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: i80186
            I will frostbite my ears to evil. Well, so funny.



            Well, he and Turkey as a whole, to spite Russia, will not freeze his ears ... In one, he is right: there will be suppliers and builders besides Russia ...

            However, if until then (before its threats), Russia has been careful in supporting the Kurds, then the vector of help can not only be changed, but also strengthened ...

            So, having spoiled Russia, he did not think that his poop in weighted form would return as a boomerang ...

            He threw us money and time with a gas pipeline, and as a result, he may lose part of the country's territory ...

            And it doesn’t stink because of some kind of plane striking a wing through Turkish airspace ... Demands and claims were much more significant - they demanded to stop our bombing in Syria in general ...

            "Стыдливый" такой Эрдоган, стыдливо не признается, что самый большой его страх - курды...
            1. gjv
              gjv 8 October 2015 14: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: veksha50
              "Стыдливый" такой Эрдоган, стыдливо не признается, что самый большой его страх - курды...

              И греков опять пробует "на зуб". Турецкие истребители нарушили греческое воздушное пространство 39 раз за среду.
              10 aircraft F-16 and F-4A, 3 CN-235 and one helicopter violated Greek airspace 39 times and 10 times - the rules of flights in the Athens area. At 10-46 local time, two Turkish aircraft flew around the island of Makronisos and a group of islands of Anthropophagi ...
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 8 October 2015 21: 26 New
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                Quote: gjv
                И греков опять пробует "на зуб". Турецкие истребители нарушили греческое воздушное пространство 39 раз за среду



                Hmm ... That's a linguistic and irresponsible policy ...

                Когда позавчера Керри дал туркам команду "фас" на сбитие-поражение российских самолетов, греки тут же высказались о том, что будут сбивать каждый турецкий самолет, нарушивший их воздушные границы...

                So this boltology is similar to the 101st Chinese warning ...

                PS Do not forget that both countries are members of NATO ... That is, again, a policy of two standards is traced: what is allowed to Jupiter (Turks) is not allowed to a bull (Greeks) ...
            2. gjv
              gjv 8 October 2015 14: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: veksha50
              "Стыдливый" такой Эрдоган, стыдливо не признается, что самый большой его страх - курды...

              И греков опять пробует "на зуб". Турецкие истребители нарушили греческое воздушное пространство 39 раз за среду.
              10 aircraft F-16 and F-4A, 3 CN-235 and one helicopter violated Greek airspace 39 times and 10 times - the rules of flights in the Athens area. At 10-46 local time, two Turkish aircraft flew around the island of Makronisos and a group of islands of Anthropophagi ...
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 8 October 2015 12: 37 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          Erdogan is furious and hysterical. The election results are not clear to him. Works on the image in front of voters.

          What, what if ... bully Violation, stand .... laughing
        3. avt
          avt 8 October 2015 13: 01 New
          +8
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Erdogan is furious and hysterical. The election results are not clear to him. Works on the image in front of voters.

          Ну из за имиджа - врятли . Скорее всего наши реально накрыли его спецов и советников/участников ,,антиигиловской коалиции" ,причем в довольно чувствительных масштабах для турецкой армии и спецслужб.Да и перспектива асадовского наступления с прибытием отмороженных вооруженных боевиков на территорию Турции не радует. За возможное вооружение курдов, причем не лояльных usa борзанистов, а вполне себе жестких и непримиримых аджалановцев , так и вовсе такая перспектива грозит полномасштабной , по типу нынешней в Сурьи, междоусобицей , но уже на территории Турции.
        4. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 8 October 2015 13: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Erdogan is furious and hysterical. The election results are not clear to him. Works on the image in front of voters.


          Ага. С трудом могу себе представить, чтобы из-за ничего не значащих нарушений воздушного пространства, взять вот так просто и отказаться от ядерной энергетики (с полным циклом переработки и утилизацией ядерных отходов) и от газового хаба в Европу (со льготными тарифами для себя). Это он в нашу сторону погавкивает, чтобы "прогиб" защитали. И при будущем распределении сфер влияния на БВ стороной не обошли. Ведь для него итог "сирийско-курдской темы" еще далеко не ясен. Я так думаю, что если успехи нашей группировки и правительственной армии Сирии станут более значительными, то он нам еще и турецкие аэродромы предоставит в полное распоряжение.
        5. hedgehog in the fog
          hedgehog in the fog 8 October 2015 13: 50 New
          +2
          which terrible Turks have become, maybe they want to become an empire again? only the owners will never allow it
          1. avt
            avt 8 October 2015 13: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: hedgehog in the fog
            which terrible Turks have become, maybe they want to become an empire again?

            It can’t, but they want it specifically! Moreover, there’s no pan-Turkic world there, but quite brilliant Port No. 2.
            Quote: hedgehog in the fog
            only the owners will never allow it

            And Sokil’s Bosphorus campaign historical memory is short, well, in relation to how they were used naglosaksa. Here in the First World Turks, the Entente was asked for neutrality of a guarantee of inviolability, and for inclusion in the war on the side of the Entente - to return to them what was lost in the Balkan War of 1912. To which they heard - neutrality is guaranteed ONLY FOR THE PERIOD OF WAR. Well, how to cut the Brilliant Porto - we now see it on the jambs that came out in the form of Kurdish and Syrian issues. Here they somehow forget that in the end they cut not two empires, but three.
        6. znorick
          znorick 8 October 2015 14: 31 New
          +3
          That's it! There, as in the US, the election circus, and you need to show the electorate who is the best clown. And as for the nuclear power plant, the rejection of the Russian project is for Turkey a shot in the foot. Russia offers the most favorable conditions: a low interest loan for this construction, and even with a long delay.
        7. NEXUS
          NEXUS 8 October 2015 14: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Erdogan is furious and hysterical. The election results are not clear to him. Works on the image in front of voters.

          Turkey is one of the sponsors of ISIS along with the USA, England and Saudi Arabia. Therefore, it is hysterical that they stepped on the tail of Amer’s mongrel.
          1. hedgehog in the fog
            hedgehog in the fog 8 October 2015 22: 40 New
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            Turks do not sponsor, they are just intermediaries, chopping sick cabbage at the same time
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 8 October 2015 22: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: hedgehog in the fog
              Turks do not sponsor, they are just intermediaries, chopping sick cabbage at the same time

              Do you think that the mediator is not an accomplice? The Turks are buying up all the looted historical relics from ISIS.
              And about sponsorship ... so Turkey is the main US ally in the Middle East, which is quite successfully producing its own weapons. And do you think that the Turks do not supply their ISIS samples?
        8. 44 World
          44 World 8 October 2015 16: 23 New
          +1
          Never been friends with Turkey and do not start to hell ...
        9. PSih2097
          PSih2097 8 October 2015 20: 59 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          Erdogan is furious and hysterical. The election results are not clear to him. Works on the image in front of voters.

          in response, for our tourists to close Turkey for visits, throw it to Egypt ...
      2. vadimN
        vadimN 8 October 2015 12: 39 New
        +6
        The Kurds should only make some noise in the center of Turkey, and then you can recommend that Russian tourists do not go to Turkey for security reasons ... This same Davutoglu remembers what percentage of Turkey's GDP is made up of tourism revenues, and mainly Russian ???
        1. Beaver
          Beaver 8 October 2015 13: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: vadimN
          Well, you can recommend that Russian tourists do not go to the tourist area for safety reasons ...

          yes Российские туристы оставляют за рубежом суммы, значительные для принимающих стран. Так что их (туристов) вполне можно превратить в инструмент международной политики. Призывать к патриотизму похоже бесполезно. Так что пора задуматься нашим думцам о создании механизма регулирования туристических потоков. Для начала, хотя бы, перестать оплачивать за государственный счет отдых в странах, правительства которых позволяют себе "лишние вольности". hi
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 8 October 2015 13: 14 New
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          Quote: vadimN
          This same Davutoglu remembers what percentage of Turkey’s GDP is tourism revenue, and mainly Russian ???


          And if you find larvae of the Colorado potato beetle (according to the method of Comrade Onishchenko) in Turkish consumer goods, confectionery, and electrical goods, then it will become quite fun.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 8 October 2015 13: 45 New
            +5
            Quote: Polite Elk
            And if you find larvae of the Colorado potato beetle in Turkish consumer goods, confectionery and electrical goods

            Maybe it's worth it all the same to start releasing your own, then you do not need to look for larvae ... hi
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 8 October 2015 14: 31 New
              +4
              Maybe it's worth it all the same to start releasing your own, then you do not need to look for larvae ... hi[/ Quote]

              "Личинки" это на будущее. В воспитательных целях, так сказать. Независимо от наличия своих аналогов. Я не знаю ничего такого турецкого, чего бы Россия не производила самостоятельно. Возможно, разве что, какую-нибудь хай-тек шаурму не делаем. В общем и ширпотреб и кондитерку и люстры-розетки-выключатели с лампочками производим, причем весьма неплохого качества. Но прилавки (у нас в регионе во всяком случае) в значительной мере заполнены турецкими товарами. Найти "личинок" это освободить место для нашего товара. Ниши на рынке заполняются быстро. Вот только лобби импортеров турецкой хрени у нас достаточно сильное.
              P.S. Я пиво "Efes" забыл. Неимеетаналоговвмире. hi
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      3. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 8 October 2015 12: 46 New
        +9
        Comrade, I think at the top know that the Turks are not our friend.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 October 2015 12: 51 New
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          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          Comrade, I think at the top know that the Turks are not our friend.

          Tsar Peter-I used to say in his time: “We do not believe three: do not believe a woman, do not believe a Turk, do not believe a non-drinker”
          Nothing has changed since then.
          1. retardu
            retardu 8 October 2015 13: 41 New
            +2
            My God, what double standards you have is a nightmare.
            Уверен если я открою тему годичной давности с названием "Эрдоган критикует политику США"
            то найду там половину отписавшихся тут с комментариями " ДА ТУРКИ НАМ КАК БРАТЬЯ, ПОЕДУ В ТУРЦИЮ ОТДЫХАТЬ, ЭРДОГАН И ПУТИН ЛУЧШИЕ ДРУЗЬЯ"
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 8 October 2015 14: 11 New
              +3
              Quote: retardu
              My God, what double standards you have is a nightmare.

              Turkey has always played on the contradictions of the West with Russia. Many hoped for the quick construction of the Turkish Stream, which would have very much reassured clowns in Ukraine, but apparently not destiny. But Germany sold its reverse operator to Gazprom, and the memorandum on the northern stream was signed.
              И коль хотите поговорить о двойных стандартах,то расскажите почему вы убрали ЗРК "пэтриот" из Турции,как же хвалёная атлантическая солидарность?Ведь враг у ворот,Россия и Иран.
              Why did Germany suddenly forget about the Kurds, who literally a year ago helped with weapons and humanitarian aid? Why is Turkey still not in the EU?
              Почему Германия поставляя Дамаску компоненты отравляющих веществ, через некоторое время забыла об этом,и объявила Асада кровавым тираном,который травит "мирных" протестующих,а?
              Do not Europe point us to double standards.
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        2. Buffalo
          Buffalo 8 October 2015 13: 05 New
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          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          Comrade, I think at the top know that the Turks are not our friend.

          Of course! What friend?! Member of NATO. Historically, we fought with them repeatedly. Today they support extremist Crimean Tatars, Muslims of the Volga region, Chechnya, Dagestan, Karachay-Cherkessia.
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 8 October 2015 13: 22 New
            +6
            Quote: Bison
            Of course! What friend?!


            Their friend in the ravine horse eats up.
        3. olegator
          olegator 8 October 2015 13: 09 New
          +8
          абсолютно однозначно знают. служил в ВС РФ на Юге России. никто не отменял турцию в качестве целей для нашей авиации, в случае войны. вся инфраструктура и спец.подарки для этого имеются. так что "дружба-дружбой", а порох всегда сухой для таких "друзей".
          1. shvn
            shvn 8 October 2015 14: 32 New
            +1
            )) And now from Crimea you can ...
      4. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 October 2015 12: 49 New
        +6
        The Turkish President said that in connection with the violation of Turkish airspace by the airspace of the Russian Federation of Aircraft Ankara may revise earlier economic decisions.

        But scho, scho happened something? Offended Ali Chavo? You also clearly told, you will persist in Syria, get Stalingrad for Turkish militants.
        Now Erdoganushka minnow swallowed and now Putin will drive him.
        The planes prevented, well, then get ready, together with NATO, to regularly protest against Russian planes. And everything from which, from your stupidity, when you tell Putin not to do something, he usually does exactly what he was asked not to do!laughing
        Газа не хотели,ну и не будет!АЭС не надо,ну так мы её в кредит для вас делали...пусть теперь вам Вестингауз достраивает по ценнику в два раза выше и за живые деньги,болгарам Вестингауз уже АЭС "построил"...lol

        And you have to forget about the Turk oil khalyavnoy 10-15 dollars per barrel, forever.wink
        НАТО говорите,а как насчёт новой остросюжетной игры..."угадай откуда прилетит"...laughing
        1. shvn
          shvn 8 October 2015 14: 35 New
          +3
          ))) Yeah, Sid, admit that the compass was even a little narrowed?
      5. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 8 October 2015 12: 55 New
        +6
        Quote: War and Peace
        in general, Kurds are such Ukrainians for Turkey,


        This phrase reminded me of an old joke:

        The Ukrainian lad, reading a book, asks his father:
        - Old Man, but who are these samurai?
        - Samurai, son, all the same, Japanese Cossacks, tilki hefty nerves.
        (Sorry for the Ukrainian curve)
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 8 October 2015 14: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Polite Elk
          - Old Man, but who are these samurai?
          - Samurai, my son, nevertheless, Japanese Cossacks, tillers hefty nervous



          To the case - it could be like this:

          "Батьку, а хто такие янычары ?
          Та це таки турчиновы козаки, которым для успокоения надо в бубен каждый день давать"...
      6. st25310
        st25310 8 October 2015 12: 55 New
        +1
        The main thing is that the strait would not block.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 8 October 2015 14: 23 New
          0
          Quote: st25310
          The main thing is that the strait would not block.



          After all, they can try ... Without thinking about the fact that once in history this strait did not become Russian forever ... History does not forgive mistakes, and Russia, I hope, remembers its mistakes and draws conclusions ...
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 8 October 2015 15: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: veksha50
            After all, they can try ...


            На случай, если попробуют: У нас ведь есть для турков своя "Украина". Это Греция. Напомнить грекам, что они гордые потомки Зевса, Посейдона, Афродиты и пр. Пообещать им переделку "Турецкого потока" в "Греческий". Поразиться их терпением и добротой в вопросе незаконной и вопиющей аннексии Турцией половины Кипра. Вручить им в руки лозунг "Кипр наш!". Признать, что греческий слон самый крупный и умный слон в мире, а греческие апельсины самые сладкие и экологически чистые. Предложить провести в Афинах межпланетный шахматный конгресс. Заполнить отели туристами, замутить расчеты в рублях. Дать им кредит в виде переуступки долга Украины. После этого у Эрдогана самым востребованным лекарством будут свечи "Релиф".
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 8 October 2015 16: 27 New
              +3
              Quote: Polite Elk
              Пообещать им переделку "Турецкого потока" в "Греческий".
              And how to lead through the Turkish straits?
              Quote: Polite Elk
              оразиться их терпением и добротой в вопросе незаконной и вопиющей аннексии Турцией половины Кипра. Вручить им в руки лозунг "Кипр наш!"
              Well, the Greeks tried to recapture Istanbul, after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, only even the weakened Turks broke them by the first number
              Quote: Polite Elk
              Give them a loan in the form of transfer of debt of Ukraine.

              And they also wrote off and distributed a lot of things. There is no need to squander sovereign good.
              Quote: Polite Elk
              Fill hotels with tourists, stir up payments in rubles.
              And how do you forgive me to fill out? It’s cheaper for the Turks so far) or do you think we love Turks so much that they don’t want to be at sea or go to Orthodox Greece?

              The Greeks, a much older nation than the Turks and the latter, have nothing to do. There is no analogy with Ukraine at all.
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 9 October 2015 02: 09 New
                0
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                And how to lead through the Turkish straits? Well, the Greeks tried to recapture Istanbul, after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, only even the weakened Turks broke them by the first number


                Вообще-то есть одна задумка... Греки по Стамбулу и Проливам давно страдают - так вот, один их прозорливый монах на вопрос "сможем ли мы вернуть Константинополь?" ванговал, что "others его отнимут у турок - и отдадут нам"... Question: who really can take Constantinople from the Turks? bully
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      7. AKESHA
        AKESHA 8 October 2015 12: 58 New
        -1
        Turkey is an influential political and military player in its region, its abstinence has always been wise, you can not abuse it, if it crashes our plane it will be right by law, but it will put us in an awkward position, to react as it should. And then Turkey, if someone forgot recently concluded an agreement with us contrary to the interests of America, which speaks of its independence,
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 October 2015 13: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: AKESHA
          And then Turkey, if someone forgot, recently signed an agreement with us at odds with the interests of America, which speaks of its independence,

          And the Turkish parliament ratified it, eh?request
        2. Buffalo
          Buffalo 8 October 2015 16: 02 New
          +1
          Действия Эрдогана крайне непоследовательны, это шараханье! Турция 39 раз нарушала воздушное пространство Греции. Так, мож, пора грекам поставить "Бук"?
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        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 8 October 2015 13: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: AKESHA
          And then Turkey, if someone forgot, recently signed an agreement with us at odds with the interests of America, which speaks of its independence,
          Agreement about what?
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 8 October 2015 13: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Agreement about what?

            According to the Turkish stream, which Turkey has not ratified since the parliamentary coalition has not been created. And the government in Turkey is now temporary until the next re-election. Accordingly, they cannot ratify the agreement. The other day Miller said that the construction of the Turkish stream is being transferred to December-January. And all is why Erdogan blew out the elections. Now he is doing all kinds of garbage, he decided to do blackmailing. And for some reason he reminded me of Yatsenyuk ... laughing
      9. Good_Taxist
        Good_Taxist 8 October 2015 13: 12 New
        +3
        On the 100th anniversary of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, to finish off its remnants ...
      10. Shuttle
        Shuttle 8 October 2015 14: 07 New
        0
        Quote: war and peace
        in general, Kurds are such Ukrainians for Turkey ...

        I do not agree at all.
      11. Weyland
        Weyland 9 October 2015 02: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: War and Peace
        Turkey is a NATO member, therefore, our enemy, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend


        just like the Chinese say:
        "If the tiger ate your enemy - do not think that the tiger has become your friend!"
        Mostly it was the Kurds, not the Turks in 1915m who genocide the Armenians from the heart. And the Sovereign Kurdistan will fall under the mattresses on the move. Conclusion: help the Kurds - but strictly dosed: "и пусть они убивают друг друга как можно дольше!" (с)
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      13. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 9 October 2015 08: 24 New
        0
        Quote: War and Peace
        it’s a pity that they don’t understand this in the Kremlin.

        Do not flatter yourself, the Kremlin understands much more than you think.
        Многим совсем недавно казалось, что "путинслилсирию". Собственно, это только казалось. wink
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 8 October 2015 12: 33 New
      10
      Erdogan himself got confused in what he said, and naturally his NATO comrades kicked him in the ass, and the Kurds will not go anywhere, but will fight for the Kurdistan, so Erdogan is spinning like a crucian in a pan.
      1. demo
        demo 8 October 2015 12: 43 New
        +2
        Now business travelers from Syria will catch up with fishing rods and spinning rods. Here's where to put them and what to do with them?
        Comrade Erdogan needs to think about this.
        And there is no doubt that they will catch up.
        Сирийцы с одной стороны, курды с другой, иранцы с "Хезболлой" с третьей, ну а мы как бы с верху и с боку помогаем этому сброду быстрее собраться на Taksim Meydanı.

        Strange among Turks, the word square resembles the Ukrainian word Maidan!
        Miracles Lord, and nothing more.
        1. A-Sim
          A-Sim 8 October 2015 13: 00 New
          +1
          What is so strange here. Some took from others.
        2. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 October 2015 13: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: demo
          Strange among Turks, the word square resembles the Ukrainian word Maidan!

          Maidan is a Turkic word, not Ukrainian. And literally means a bazaar, a square.wassat
    4. Penetrator
      Penetrator 8 October 2015 12: 34 New
      +2
      Erdoganchik began to play in his idea of ​​pan-Turkism. Thinks the US needs a strong Turkey? Whatever the case .. And even more so Russia does not need the revival of the Ottoman Empire. So get and sign - there will be Greater Kurdistan at the expense of Turkey, including. Syria and Iraq have almost reconciled with the loss of Kurdish territories. And the Turks will be forced to reconcile.
    5. zanoza
      zanoza 8 October 2015 12: 36 New
      +7
      Yes, you brother Erdogan is a blackmailer and a schemer!
      Что, гибель "своих террористов" в Сирии напрягает? Да и свой интерес по Сирии , видимо, накрывается медным тазом.
      How many times do you not offer friendship to Turkey, it still looks at Russia as a wolf.
      We historically quarrel ...
      1. vladimirw
        vladimirw 8 October 2015 12: 41 New
        +1
        And not small interest, oil smuggling, historical values ​​all through Turkey - and this is billions, and suddenly all at once with a copper basin!
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      3. Buffalo
        Buffalo 8 October 2015 16: 09 New
        +1
        Erdogan is not a Turk by nationality. Its roots are somewhere in the Caucasus. Therefore, he will not regret the Turks.
    6. vodolaz
      vodolaz 8 October 2015 13: 36 New
      0
      Erdogan is a very short-sighted comrade and he will openly play out. In his country, many are waiting for cheaper gas, and jobs.
    7. Yozhas
      Yozhas 8 October 2015 14: 36 New
      0
      I propose to deploy an Internet company for the next season of 2016. REST in Russia. Then billions of rubles will remain at home. And then let's see who thousands of hotels will host ...... refugees ????? And how the economy will be good ..... millions of unemployed Turks ....... And then we will see how much money he will buy gas elsewhere !!!!!!!!

      Personally, I haven’t been resting abroad for 4 years already, and on vacation I’m going by car on a route that has been set beforehand for 2 weeks. For money it’s not more expensive, and sometimes cheaper. But I learned and saw a lot of interesting things about the country.
    8. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 8 October 2015 14: 37 New
      +1
      .... Oh yes, and you beg ...

      ...."...Если русские не построят АЭС «Аккую», её построит кто-то другой..."

      .... Well, a flag in hand !!!! ... I recommend the Fukushima project to Erdogan (single-circuit) .... the Americans will quickly build ....:))))) .... But seriously, in If the Russian Federation succeeds in Syria and possibly in Iraq, I think that such devices will be built in these countries over time ... Moreover, Energoatom has a full portfolio of orders and, as a result, those who wish, as far as I can see ...
    9. Will
      Will 8 October 2015 15: 00 New
      +2
      Россия не США, чтобы их методами по полной пользоваться. Договор и еще раз договор, а кто не может договариваться познает "фунт лиха". winked
  2. Sergey K.
    Sergey K. 8 October 2015 12: 28 New
    20
    If the Russians do not build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, someone else will build it.

    Лопаты вам "дорогие" турки в руки и вперёд, раз такие умные. Одолели уже шантажисты, видать у Лукашенко пример берут.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 8 October 2015 12: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey K.
      If the Russians do not build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, someone else will build it.

      Лопаты вам "дорогие" турки в руки и вперёд, раз такие умные.

      Erdogan as a moody woman ..
      если ты мне "это" - то у меня голова заболит, и дни наступят. Но уж лучше пусть"голова" болит, чем битье посуды на "кухне" со всеми вытекающими и призывом любовников из других "квартир".

      damn .. something I'm all about ..... (((I’ll go to my wife.
    2. Darkoff
      Darkoff 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
      +3
      +100500 After such tantrums, no developed country subscribes to this.
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 8 October 2015 13: 34 New
        +1
        So these NATO partners taught him. I wouldn’t even open my mouth.
        1. Darkoff
          Darkoff 8 October 2015 13: 48 New
          +1
          Эрдоган "нестабилен" в западной терминологии. Он - "себе на уме" товарищ.
          NATO partners were against even the Turkish Stream talks. Erdogan sent them ...
  3. Kent0001
    Kent0001 8 October 2015 12: 28 New
    +4
    It was he who was angry not with our planes, his German old woman once again dismissed her for EU membership, and we already apologized for the plane. And so, if he wants, then let Kizyakakmi continue to drown.
  4. klaus16
    klaus16 8 October 2015 12: 29 New
    +4
    One speaks one, another another. Is it so customary for them?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 October 2015 12: 29 New
      +5
      The answer to Erdogan should be like this
      .l.
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 8 October 2015 12: 42 New
        +1
        it's good that the cruise missile did not fly ...
      2. Imperial
        Imperial 8 October 2015 12: 54 New
        0
        The answer to Erdogan should be like this
        .l.
        No, it’s better like this, you completely lost the shore Erdogan, did your memory wander off? forgot the Empresses of Russia, well, no Che, the carpet he is not only a plane but ....
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  6. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 8 October 2015 12: 30 New
    +5
    It has long been obvious that the Turkish stream is doomed, only an excuse was needed ... Turks ...
  7. MDV
    MDV 8 October 2015 12: 30 New
    0
    What can not be said before the election
  8. Prutkov
    Prutkov 8 October 2015 12: 30 New
    +3
    Will he even be in power by the end of the year?
  9. Hort
    Hort 8 October 2015 12: 31 New
    +3
    refuse the construction of Akkuyu NPP
    - and yes .. laughing
  10. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 8 October 2015 12: 31 New
    +2
    That he is so traded laughing
  11. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 8 October 2015 12: 31 New
    0
    Война войной, но политику и экономику никто не отменял. Будем надеяться на аккуратность наших пилотов. Такие "мелочи" могут серьёзно осложнить отношения между странами. А нам этого не надо. И без того проблем хватает.
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 8 October 2015 12: 35 New
      +3
      The mistakes of our pilots are just an excuse. This will not come up with something else.
  12. Evver
    Evver 8 October 2015 12: 31 New
    +1
    Wouldn't it be better to turn on yourself, godfather? (I.A. Krylov)

    http://topwar.ru/83971-tureckie-istrebiteli-narushili-grecheskoe-vozdushnoe-pros
    transtvo-xnumx-raz.html
  13. Altona
    Altona 8 October 2015 12: 32 New
    +5
    Erdogan thinks that cheap ISIS oil will be eternal? Or will forests be planted in Antalya for deforestation? Or did he say that to the Americans?
  14. kit-kat
    kit-kat 8 October 2015 12: 33 New
    +2
    Damn, it was even understandable to a shabby school bully. It is necessary to build gas liquefying plants, and not pull pipes.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 8 October 2015 12: 45 New
      +2
      ВЫ это нашему Лёхе Миллеру скажите.Сразу же "врагом государства" вас и объявят!
  15. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 8 October 2015 12: 34 New
    +2
    The Turks are still those partners, you shouldn’t rely on them especially, at any moment they can put a pig
  16. Irokez
    Irokez 8 October 2015 12: 34 New
    +5
    Good. We then do not recommend our tourists to go on holiday to Turkey.
    And by the way, where is our at least some kind of patriotism. Why to Turkey, and not to the Crimea and the Black Sea coast or to Mother Russia. Well, how much can you feed capricious TURKEY?
  17. Pacifist
    Pacifist 8 October 2015 12: 35 New
    +1
    For a politician of this level, such tantrums are just bad luck. Not even funny.
  18. gas113
    gas113 8 October 2015 12: 35 New
    +2
    Yes, it was immediately clear that it was daylight that start building a gas pipeline and Turks would become worse than the Bulgarians. In vain they were contacted. They need to hint at the trade and tourist embargo, and then the goons got ripe
  19. AlexTires
    AlexTires 8 October 2015 12: 36 New
    +2
    Перевод:"Хватит бомбит турецких друзей из ИГил, мы хотим дальше покупать по дешёвке ихнюю нефть, да и все ресурсы какие у них есть." Это и следовало ожидать. После подписания Турецкого потока, один умный политолог завил, что России надо ожидать того, что неизвестно какие кульбиты Турция выкинет и особо радоваться о совместных проектах не стоит. Но Эрдоган зря раскатал губу:станция строится за счет России, или он считает, что кто-то другой валит ему в экономику 20 миллиардов баксов?
  20. father nikon
    father nikon 8 October 2015 12: 37 New
    +4
    As supplies of stolen and free goods from Syria and Iraq stopped, the cockerel immediately began to sing. And with the gas pipeline the Turks only fooled us.
  21. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 8 October 2015 12: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: fregina1
    Oh yes, and you ask for ... to support the idea of ​​Greater Kurdistan !!! And ento is almost 4 part of Turkey!

    Russia and Turkey have good relations both politically and economically, why spoil them? Well, it happens, they violated the air. space, apologize, the incident is over.
  22. Oznob
    Oznob 8 October 2015 12: 38 New
    +1
    The one that you attacked him, you must tell him something. And then in front of colleagues in NATO somehow uncomfortable. wassat
  23. kil 31
    kil 31 8 October 2015 12: 39 New
    +1
    If the Russians do not build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, someone else will build it. And I even know who, striped. Remember when you announced that we would build a nuclear power plant in Akkuyu. Stripes from green to the State Department began to scream, it’s impossible there, there are constant earthquakes. The Russians are deceiving the Turks who want to arrange Chernobyl for them. When they refuse immediately, it’s normal, we’ll build you nothing terrible in this area.
  24. Alexnder
    Alexnder 8 October 2015 12: 39 New
    0
    When does he have parliamentary elections there?
    So the rhetoric will end.
    Shas, he will refuse our gas, atom, and even more so tourists.
  25. sl22277
    sl22277 8 October 2015 12: 39 New
    0
    Yeah, Turkey will gain a lot. You might think we are friends with one goal. It seems to be a mutually beneficial cooperation. The United States will accept them with open arms and will use, use, use.
  26. win
    win 8 October 2015 12: 39 New
    +2
    ...надо вооружать курдов под видом "демократии" и "свободы на самоопределение"...

    The Americans can do the trick, they will also arm the Kurds, they can Takooooe make a promise...
    Armed with the Americans, the Kurds will attack ISIS, capture the part of Syria where they previously lived, the Americans will enter the same place and then ...
    It is necessary to prevent this situation faster, otherwise Kurds from friends will quickly become enemies.
    1. win
      win 8 October 2015 13: 42 New
      +2
      By the way, something similar to my opinion was expressed by some high-ranking official and political scientist in the program of V. Solovyov, they applauded him, i.e. considered positive. Therefore, the minuser of the Turks or the hidden Kurd.
    2. andj61
      andj61 8 October 2015 13: 43 New
      0
      Quote: Siegen
      The Americans can do the trick, they will also arm the Kurds, they can promise sooooo ...
      Armed with the Americans, the Kurds will attack ISIS, capture the part of Syria where they previously lived, the Americans will enter the same place and then ...
      It is necessary to prevent this situation faster, otherwise Kurds from friends will quickly become enemies

      The Americans are doing just that.
      And now the Kurdish militia - the Peshmerga, through the efforts of the Americans, could be the only real counterweight to Assad’s troops and that ground component for the United States and the American-led coalition in the fight against ISIS.
      That is, they are now trying to put together a new front against Assad: with the "moderate" opposition, it turns out very well - they are trying with the Kurds.
      Therefore, Russia needs to make possible efforts to normalize relations between the Syrian government and Kurdish leaders by promising the Kurds, for example, the broadest autonomy: the main enemy of both of them is the same - the Islamists, and, first of all, ISIS.
    3. win
      win 8 October 2015 13: 48 New
      +2
      ...надо вооружать курдов под видом "демократии" и "свободы на самоопределение"...

      The Americans can do the trick, they will also arm the Kurds, they can promise sooooo ...
      Armed with the Americans, the Kurds will attack ISIS, capture the part of Syria where they previously lived, the Americans will enter the same place and then ...
      It is necessary to prevent this situation faster, otherwise Kurds from friends will quickly become enemies


      One political scientist from V. Solovyov’s program expressed a similar opinion and they applauded him, i.e. considered positive. So the minus signer sympathizes with the Turks and the Americans.
  27. Idunavs
    Idunavs 8 October 2015 12: 40 New
    +2
    Over the past 200 years, the Turks are 1st in the number of wars with us, and precisely because of such a policy that Erdogan conducts.
  28. boris-1230
    boris-1230 8 October 2015 12: 41 New
    +1
    Non-Russian insidious oriental character - you cannot deal with them
  29. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 October 2015 12: 42 New
    +4
    Эрдоган поставил не на ту лошадь и проиграл. Теперь ему не за что особо цепляться. "Южный поток" поменяли на "Северный -2", "Турецкий" теперь, в общем, и не сильно нужен, посему и мощность, там запланированная, сильно снизилась ( по моему, чуть ли не в четыре раза). Атомный проект - а кому он нужен больше, туркам, с их дефицитом энергии, или нам? Наши по любому дешевле выйдут, да и с отработанным топливом потом морочится...
    In short, IMHO, Erdogan had a lot from smuggling oil - I don’t think he’s in his pocket, he needed this money for elections. He is now the president in the PARLIAMENTARY REPUBLIC. And rests on naked authority. And he spoiled his relations with the Kurds, he drove into Assad not childishly, terracottas began on the territory ... That freaked out, for landing approaches through its territory. And he flew to Syria to bomb - for a long time apologized?
    In general, Russia broke off his whole alignment. After all, he wanted to Islamize Turkey a little, but she did not want to.
  30. Darkoff
    Darkoff 8 October 2015 12: 42 New
    +2
    Some kind of Ukrainian tactics. Let it be even worse for me than for my neighbor, but I’ll pay him anyway.
    Putin abandoned the South Stream for the sake of principle, just like Turkey will refuse. Is the power of Siberia being built in vain? Refusal of the transit function of Turkey will bring no less lost profit than Russia refusal of the flow.
    The response could be the deportation of all Turkish builders (both workers and contractors) and other guest workers.
    Few will not seem.
    Сирийцы объясняют такое поведение Эрдогана тем, что Россия срывает его планы по созданию Османской империи, где Сирия - первая на очереди. Если проанализировать поведение и деятельность Эрдогана, то такой вывод покажется обоснованным. Наш "Путин-царь" (как запад его называет) по сравнению с этим деятелем - студент семинарии.
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 8 October 2015 13: 26 New
      0
      Quote: DarkOFF
      Some kind of Ukrainian tactics. Let it be even worse for me than for my neighbor, but I’ll pay him anyway.

      Yes, I’ll give him a fence, to my beds. fool laughing
  31. Petr1
    Petr1 8 October 2015 12: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Petr1
    As a grandmother, I will not, then, fu ... I hope our government has the intelligence to take the money forward, otherwise it will turn out like with the Mistrals.
  32. Wolka
    Wolka 8 October 2015 12: 43 New
    +4
    to engage in dialogue with Russia from the perspective of ultimatums, the greatest stupidity, and Erdogan, with pleasure at the instigation of the Yankees, steps on this rake again and again (well, a very stupid person) ...
  33. Masya masya
    Masya masya 8 October 2015 12: 43 New
    +3
    What are they all threatening? Do not be scared, scared!
  34. Roust
    Roust 8 October 2015 12: 44 New
    +4
    Детский сад какой-то ... "АЭС построит кто-то другой" ... Это не слова политика, а блеяние тупой, обиженной овцы.
  35. RomanN
    RomanN 8 October 2015 12: 44 New
    +1
    Просто злится парень,что север Сирии у него из рук ускользает,если асадовцы игил отгонят подальше.Минус маржа с "левой" Иракской нефти,минус беспошлинная торговля с европой(куда свои товары продавать?) и другие "приятности" от евросоюза.А ссориться с Россией по взрослому ему чревато,ведь экономический кризис затронет всех,а доходы от торговли с нами и нашего туризма не могут быть незаметны в их бюджете.
  36. raid14
    raid14 8 October 2015 12: 45 New
    15
    Мы конечно не злопамятные, на "Кто прошлое забудет тому оба глаза вон".
    Years Name Winner
    1568-1570 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1672-1681 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1686-1700 Azov war Russia
    1710-1711 (13) Prut campaign Turkey
    1735-1739 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1768-1774 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1787-1791 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1806-1812 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1828-1829 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1853-1856 Crimean War No [3]
    1877-1878 Russian-Turkish war Russia
    1914-1918 Caucasus Front (World War I) Russia
    1. samara-58
      samara-58 8 October 2015 14: 38 New
      +1
      raid14 be careful, I mentioned Suvorov here, so I got a warning ... but they can ban them for such a list !!!
      1. raid14
        raid14 8 October 2015 15: 06 New
        +1
        You need to remember your story!
  37. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 October 2015 12: 46 New
    +2
    Vane.
    The most that neither is a weather vane. Inflated by meerkat winds. fellow

    Bad person. angry
  38. evil partisan
    evil partisan 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
    0
    Going overboard. yes
    Well, or throw off ...
  39. Mjohn
    Mjohn 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
    +1
    I bought cheap oil from igil - that’s crazy with fat
  40. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
    0
    I didn’t think that he was such a weather vane ... Probably I will cease to respect him ... (((
  41. Das Boot
    Das Boot 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
    0
    Erdie firmly took Europe for causal places - without him, the problem of migrants cannot be solved. The first profits are already being discussed - visa-free entry of the Turks into Europe. Next on the agenda is the loot - the Turks will build six camps. I am silent about the political benefits that Erdie bargains with the EU.
  42. Denis DV
    Denis DV 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
    +1
    It is one thing to refuse what is not yet, and another to refuse a real tourist pipeline drinks
  43. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 8 October 2015 12: 47 New
    +3
    Erdogan, get down. Cheap Igilov oil is a direct way to nowhere. Pay and get stable legal resources, be a normal kid.
    We don’t have to press on us yet the branch to Europe is also preparing for China. With regard to border violations, we have already established contacts with your military to coordinate on such cases.

    In general, the Turks very much want to become the dominant country in the region. Therefore, they are jealously shocked + oil cheap and probably the black trade in antiques and weapons also eludes.

    а наши заодно засветили пока пролетали все турецкие "нычки"
  44. ssn18
    ssn18 8 October 2015 12: 50 New
    0
    It started shit through the pipes! The puppeteer must have pulled the thread.
    Just think our couple of times flew a bit, what speed. He took his eyes for a second to the side and the adjacent territory. laughing And they themselves flew 39 times into Greece. bully
    http://topwar.ru/83971-tureckie-istrebiteli-narushili-grecheskoe-vozdushnoe-pros
    transtvo-xnumx-raz.html
  45. Das Boot
    Das Boot 8 October 2015 12: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Denis DV
    and the other is to abandon the real tourist pipeline

    do not make me laugh. We went and will ride. The olfactors.
  46. Kirk
    Kirk 8 October 2015 12: 52 New
    0
    Bluffing.
    Благодаря "турецкому потоку", он сможет держать на поводке пол Европы и не только, от такого не отказываются просто так.
    Подобных "партнеров" надо держать их же деньгами, пусть вкладываются в стройку, а то, что они "голубые" по своей сути, история уже неоднократно подтверждала.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 8 October 2015 13: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Kirk
      Благодаря "турецкому потоку", он сможет держать на поводке пол Европы

      he will keep her on a migrant leash anyway. Schultz and Tusk in Brussels cleaned his shoes.
  47. akudr48
    akudr48 8 October 2015 12: 53 New
    0
    If the Russians do not build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant, someone else will build it.

    It would be nice if Erdogan abandoned the nuclear power plant that Russia was planning to build at its own expense. The project cost is about 20 billion euros, they will be paid by our generous soul, at the national expense, as Rosatom plans.

    And we will receive money from the sale of energy when we launch the station, the payback period of the project is only 60 years!

    An original approach at the expense of others. That is, this is the same theft, only a side view.

    And there, after 60 years, both Erdogan, and Kiriyenko and other lovers will live away at the Russian expense ...

    It is time for the authorities to stop fooling the people of Russia.
    1. andj61
      andj61 8 October 2015 13: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: akudr48
      It is time for the authorities to stop fooling the people of Russia.

      In fact, no one is fooling anyone! The construction of nuclear power plants is extremely beneficial to both Turkey and Russia.
      At first, Turkey does not invest a dime and receives a modern nuclear power plant. Russia enters the energy market of Turkey with a full-fledged product - and itself sells electricity. This includes - construction of the station, staff training, operation - up to the construction of their own energy networks and distribution. substations, fuel utilization and utilization of the station upon completion of operation.
      If someone else builds a station, then he simply won’t take on many things. The most important thing is the utilization of spent fuel - the Americans never take it upon themselves, and ours always. Utilization of the station and recreation of the territory is also a serious issue.
      Американская компания не пойдет на строительство за счёт собственных средств даже ценой входа на рынок Турции - у них так не принято. В кредит - да (причём кредит за счёт "принимающей" стороны, с участием государства - обязательно, но не за счёт собственных средств.
  48. samara-58
    samara-58 8 October 2015 12: 53 New
    +3
    "...построят другие..."-получишь фокусиму; не дашь строить газопровод-немцам богатеть! в этом году на 3 млн туртстов ,из России,меньше-в следующем вообще пролетишь! думай турок думай!!! (для модераторов-"турок" не ругательство)
  49. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 8 October 2015 12: 54 New
    +3
    Well, what else will the Russians go on vacation to Turkey or stop at last and go to our country? (once united)
  50. SMS
    SMS 8 October 2015 12: 56 New
    0
    I frightened the hedgehog with a bare ass, and they have the whole economy on our tourists, well, we also buy some low-quality products and clothes, you can do without this.