Do not worry But father!

Alexander Lukashenko at the meeting with the Belgiprodor employees (quoted BelTA):

Recently I have been watching the cries of our opposition about the deployment of a Russian air base in Belarus. I don't know anything about that. The person who has to make this decision - I know nothing about it.

Alexander Lukashenko (two minutes later):

It just surprises me and even to some extent resents and offends, why did the Russians throw it into the mass media today? Maybe they are worried that we are really leaving the West in order to throw this topic so that the West will start asking us or doubt that we want to normalize relations with them?

As can be seen from two reports by the President of Belarus, he is outraged by the statements that a Russian military air base is being created on the territory of Belarus. At the same time, Alexander Grigorievich first stated that the Belarusian opposition issued “cries” about this issue, and then made it clear that local oppositionists were “screaming” on the basis of publications by some “Russians” - and Lukashenka did not voice specific names or media names.

During the same speech, the President of the Republic of Belarus stated that Belarus does not need military bases with foreign (that is, Russian pilots), but military equipment is needed:

We need airplanes, not bases today. We have excellent pilots, we have a good school of military pilots, civilians. And why should I create a database? Why do I need to deliver here today airplanes and pilots of other states? And what will they do?

Speech of the Belarusian leader to the workers:

It would seem, why does Lukashenko say again about some kind of “really leaving for the West”, and why it is precisely today that raises the question that “planes are needed, the base is not”?

The answer is simple: But father is at the final pre-election stage (the presidential election in Belarus will take place next Sunday), and therefore the statements of the current president (presidential candidate) must be viewed through the electoral prism. Alexander Lukashenko understands perfectly well that if he speaks about the formation of the structures of the RF AUF in Lida (RB) as a fact that has happened, the “cries” of the opposition will be even louder. And he needs it? .. Of course not. After all, if there are louder cries, then those who are not ready to give a vote for the permanent leader of Belarus 11 of October can also find comrades from among those who previously decided on a voice in favor of But, but suddenly found themselves with a persistent striving towards pacifism ...

Proceeding from this, any information about whether there are Russian pilots in Lida in addition to Russian planes is now perceived by Alexander Lukashenko as an attempt to put a big pig before elections.

If so, then in this connection it is worth saying: there are no Russian pilots in Lida, of course, there is no Russian VKS base in Lida either. Who said: "there is a base?" - Break down! Three outfits out of turn! ..

Well, I just want to somehow remotely support Alexander Grigorievich in his desire to remain in the presidency. And although he is a peculiar politician - with some complaints about the desire to sit on two chairs, but, firstly, this is explainable for such a small country as our fraternal Belarus, caught up between the EU and the Russian Federation, and, secondly, to such a Lukashenko and Russia has long been accustomed. But father is a ruffian, but he was and still remains a supporter of pragmatic integration not only between Belarus and Russia, but also in the post-Soviet space in general. And after Minsk became a platform for a political settlement of the conflict in the Donbass, the Belarusian leader, in which he, too, can hardly be reproached, I realized that this could be done in the western direction.

At the same time, Lukashenko understands perfectly well that for Russia he is relatively good for who he is, but in order not to miss the opportunity for Western “partners” who also spoke there about the lifting of sanctions against Belarus, Alexander Grigorievich needs to try. And he is working in this direction.

And if we are talking about political and economic pragmatism, then you need to understand that any relaxation of Western sanctions against Belarus will lead to an automatic relaxation of sanctions against Russia (at least, indirectly). After all, after all, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are: a) in the EAEU and b) in the Union State. It is foolish not to take advantage of this, especially since the West itself (that part of it which has not yet lost touch with adequacy) understands the possibility of circumventing the sanctions imposed by Minsk under the pressure of Big Brother. After all, Washington today is so absorbed in the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria that if it spreads to other parts of the global chess board, then it’s not at all who it was some time ago. Therefore, if the Western partners of Belarus and the Russian Federation really need it, then, as they say, let them write down:

There is no military base of the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation in Belarus, there are no Russian pilots in Lida either ... And about the declarations of the 2013 model of the Air Force commander Viktor Bondarev about the fact that Russia is deploying Su-27MZ fighters in Belarus, remember only as a joint Russian Belarusian air defense system. Do not worry But father! ..

Comments

[Alexander Romanov]

We need airplanes, not bases today.
Well, take it and buy, otherwise everything is a gift at the expense of Russia.
How did you get this corn cob.

[Temples]

In what "Union State" is the BR located?
Can I find out what this state is called?
It is all the more interesting that Russia "after all" is also in it!
What is it? Alex, tell me?

[Egoza]

Quote: Temples

In what "Union State" is the BR located?

CIS! It has not yet been canceled and even Ukraine has not left its composition.
However, I want to note that it is Batsky’s dual policy that can give unexpected results in the future. Yes, Father will be kicked out again, and while he keeps the opposition on a short leash, but Father is not eternal, but the Western propaganda continues to operate, and most importantly, he processes the youth. What this will lead to in the future - we see on the example of Ukraine. And where is the propaganda of Russia in Belarus? Again, no time for her? And it would be necessary to take care of this NOW!

[captain]

It’s hard to sit on the pyramid, especially if you yourself chose it as a chair.

[Eugene-Eugene]

and then all as a gift at the expense of Russia

Something you can and give. For example, in the squadron SU-24 and L-ok - anyway they will be replaced (respectively by SU-34 and Yak-130). You can also sell cheaper Su-27 and MiGs (they are unlikely to be all upgraded). If Belarusians want something newer, then let them shell out.

[Petergut]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: Temples

In what "Union State" is the BR located?

CIS! It has not yet been canceled and even Ukraine has not left its composition.
...

You are wrong. This refers to the Union State of Russia and Belarus.
Vots: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State

[Temples]

Fidget,

The CIS has not yet been canceled, BUT !!!
The Union of Independent States IS NOT A STATE !!!
Do not confuse yourself, and do not confuse others!

[james]

You're right. If you read the forums on TUT.BY articles about events in Ukraine, and now Syria, it turns out that in Belarus there are many from the category of horses on the Maidan who speak Russian, think Russian and at the same time they hate everything Russian and pour dirt in three streams .

[samuil60]

All this is called "Ivan, not remembering kinship." Betrayal of any kind, even in the smallest, always smells bad. And most importantly, it is not appreciated by those to whom they sell theirs. Everyone understands: once betrayed, he will betray again. And they try to get rid of such a character as soon as possible. Sitting on two chairs is outdated: you can still somehow sit on them. But on two motorcycles - it is unlikely to work. But Father is trying to do just that - the events of world history are rapidly accelerating.

[Megatron]

But father, as always, and sit on x and eat a fish.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Egoza

But father will be kicked out again

What, excuse me, Old Man ???

[avt]

Quote: Temples

In what "Union State" is the BR located?
Can I find out what this state is called?

I will add - what normative documents signed and ratified by the parliaments of our states stipulate what it is, what is part of this "union state" on what rights and how is it actually governed? What is the normative legal base? Where is not the constitution of this ,, gosudarstva "- at least a constitutional act about which they talked too hell knows when.

Quote: Egoza

CIS! It has not yet been canceled and even Ukraine has not left its composition.

The funniest or saddest thing is that the CIS has a regulatory framework!

Quote: demos1111

Until he recognizes Ossetia and Abkhazia, he will not do it properly
statements in the Crimea, nor to give him anything at a discount, nor oil or gas.

Well, to fall into insanity, then why ??? Batska receives energy resources at the prices agreed with him for quite himself received preferences that the Russian leadership asked for, to which Ukraine did not go with its GTS. Not immediately, with great altercations and shouts, "they are bending us down!", But they quite decided for themselves. goads from scratch create a headache with your own hands for yourself and the Belarusians !!!! ????

Quote: Alexander Romanov

-Free free oil and gas from Russia ended and its economic miracle ended

Yes, not free energy carriers! But Father's financial and credit system is clearly built for himself according to pryntsyp - I will take two and give one. Of course, I will tremble beyond measure, but collect loans to ensure an "economic miracle" in a country with a population less than in Moscow and a lack of natural resources ... ... Guys - this is a classic “pyramid”! And it will collapse, especially quickly when the head of the pyramid “doesn’t trade in suverenity,” well, he tries to portray himself as equal to the Players of the Big Game. I would also understand if he would have created in Belarus during the time of government that something that is so necessary for the world like Switzerland, Hong Kong / Xianggang, which China is afraid to break through the knee - it is extremely useful and necessary for themselves, so that Shanghai has not surpassed it, Singapore is there at last. But this is NOT! There is only a geographical location, also Soviet cooperation and ... and EVERYTHING! Ah! Yes ! There is nostalgia for the imperial project of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania! But they are timid! This project lost to the Moscow principality in such shaggy years that the Polish imperial project from Mozha to Mozha looks just like a jerk! Yes, and absorbs in his thoughts, Belarus along with Butska. And really

Quote: Egoza

What this will lead to in the future - we see on the example of Ukraine.

[Volodin]

Quote: Temples

In what "Union State" is the BR located?

http://www.soyuz.by

[Conductor]

Alexander Romanov

Well, really on the site began to understand who this collective farmer is?

Well, take it and buy, otherwise everything is a gift at the expense of Russia.

Can you specify when and what kind of aircraft Russia "presented" to Belarus? I only know about the purchase. "Giving" Russia mainly complexes S-300

There was nostalgia for the imperial project of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania! But shy! This project lost to the Moscow Principality in such shaggy years that the Polish imperial project from mozh to mozh looks like a loon! laughing

The GDL collapsed due to the ambitions of Vitovt, who, with his fatal mistakes, launched the process of destroying the state, which Ivan III took advantage of. In addition, from your expression "the GDL project" somehow makes it

[Conductor]

Therefore, it is quite reasonable that after the so-called "elections" there will be a huge number of dissatisfied people who do not want to see this person at the helm for another 5 years. Luka himself will not leave and the vertical of power will not go anywhere ... But there is a worthy candidate, despite Luke's ardent desire to rot them all in prisons or kill them. You can't shut your mouth with the help of police shields.

[yastr]

What kind of people do not shut your mouth?
If the majority votes for it, and it will be so, then the minority should accept this choice, go democracy.
And they’ll get it - they’ll get it in the teeth ..

[anti-Semite]

in Libya, Nyaried won, so what? hurt yourself in the country of the victorious people?

[avt]

Quote: Explorer

In addition, from your expression "ON project" somehow pokers

“It is fun to" involve local "elites" in the search for historical artifacts for the nationalization of local history in a very specific opposition to Russia. This is done by ALL ex-Soviet national republics in the post-Soviet space. In ALL you will find this or that "truth" of the oppression of the poor "colony" by evil Moscow. This, of course, is understandable - nationalism is the simplest thing to grab onto to maintain your local power here and now. And what about the long-term consequences? Yes, they are on them with the device - they live now and I anneal according to the principle - "after us, even a flood" Again, the soul is warmed by all kinds of "grand-ducal letters" and other attributes of communion with the offspring of Chingizov and Iskender Macedoni, in fairness - "elite" Russia has stocked up on them in industrial quantities from different "manufacturers". Only now ordinary people will have to disentangle everything, that's how the great Ukrainians are now in Ukraine. Do you think the great lords are more cunning and will carry them? Will not blow with a whistle, do not even hesitate! Yes, you can carry it - you can't wash it off.

[Conductor]

Avt

Your idea, as I understand it, can be described by a quote:

a man who does not have anything to be proud of, grabs at the only possible and takes pride in the nation to which he belongs
Arthur Schopenhauer

?
This is how you look ... There are so many "historical artifacts" confirming the existence of nationality that you don't really need to search for them. Which ones do you need?
If you study history not only from the books of Russian historians (who sometimes make ridiculous mistakes, but still “pull the blanket over themselves”), then you can learn a lot of new things, including the fact that Belarusians became “brothers” of the Russians quite recently (according to historical measurements)

[avt]

Quote: Explorer

If you study history not only from the books of Russian historians (who sometimes make ridiculous mistakes, but still "pull the blanket over themselves"), then you can learn a lot

This is what I’m talking about - a substitution of the concept. You yourself, then, in YOUR quote, look where the historical facts are actually that are actually known through comparison of different sources, and where is the specific fit and search for the necessary historical facts for your own theory of antiquity and greatness, and you understand the impossibility of how to say exactly the same as a carbon copy in words, as Kazakh colleagues are here on the site. But Velikoukry went further and more powerful

Quote: Explorer

There are so many "historical artifacts" confirming the existence of nationality that there is no need to search for them. What do you need?

For what ? In order to declare a local defeat near Konotop as a great local defeat from the Tatar corps to the Tatar corps as a glorious peremogue of hetman Vygovsky? And to be terribly proud of it as a victory over “bravery”? Well, it does not fit into the heroic Permogu.

Quote: Explorer

, then you can learn a lot of new things, including the fact that Belarusians have recently become "brothers" for the Russians (by historical standards)

Wow! That's what I'm talking about! The main side is kinship and you give your own separate gishtoria hidden by the colonialists. "By the way, don't enlighten which ones were, well, if

Quote: Explorer

that Belarusians have recently become "brothers" for the Russians (by historical standards)

Well, the current is a little earlier than they were in the Commonwealth speech. Not one of the great Ukrainians ??? Maybe together the Black Sea was digging and building pyramids, but this secret knowledge is not known to us? Or maybe even cooler - they led the process when the great Ukrainians dug the sea and dumped the Caucasus Mountains, and built pyramids from the remains? Let me guess - not from the shelters The human race went ..... oh not from the shelters! Well, okay, where are we really going to fit into your showdown with greatness about greatness, we’ll do something like that, stand on one side and take a look. Back in 1612, we all fell in love with this gentry ambition and secured it with a triple division of Poland. So it is difficult to surprise with something.

[Conductor]

For what ? In order to declare a local defeat near Konotop, as a velikoukram, to the Tatar corps “oaths” as a glorious peremogue of hetman Vygovsky? And to be terribly proud of it as a victory over “bravery”? And naturally we omit the further fate of the same Vygovsky. laughing Well, it doesn't fit into a heroic peermog.

Well:
Battle of the Blue Waters(the fall of 1362, the troops of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania under the command of Prince Olgerd defeated the combined army of the three Tatar princes. It was this victory that marked the beginning of the liberation of Eastern Europe from the Horde rule long before the Battle of Kulikovo),
Battle of Grunwald (July 15, 1410, I think everyone knows),
Battle of Chashniki (January 26, 1564 - the 6th army of the ON, under the command of the governor Nikolai Radzivil defeated the 18th army of the Moscow state. It ended in the complete defeat of the Russian army. Tsarist army commander Pyotr Shuisky was killed by a cart with guns and weapons that were brought for Smolensk’s recruits, ended up in the hands of the ON soldiers. The campaign of 1564 was disrupted.),
Battle of Klushin (July 4, 1610 - The defeat of the Russians in this battle led to the overthrow of Vasily Shuisky in Moscow and the formation of the Semiboyarshchyna, which, in fear of False Dmitry II, swore allegiance to Prince Vladislav and allowed Zholkevsky into Moscow, in fact the Moscow state lost for some time statehood)
Battle of Polonka (July 27, 1660 - the combined Belarusian-Lithuanian and Polish army led by the hetmans Jan Pavel Sapieha and Stefan Charnetskiy near the village of Polonka defeated the three times as large army of the Moscow governor Ivan Khovansky)

Will it pass for "peremogs"? Well, what can you do: then it was Russia with the Tatars, and the Teutons were our main enemy

[avt]

Quote: Explorer

Will it pass for "peremogs"? Well, what can you do: then it was Russia with the Tatars, and the Teutons were our main enemy

It will do, it will do. But just for what? To prove to me

Quote: Explorer

oh, that Belarusians have recently become "brothers" for the Russians (

Well proved. Moreover, in a purely printed Lithuanian language, as well as quite recently in Russian, it is true, but it’s probably that it would have come down to us sivolapyh, one mamzel and Maidan rubbed us that “We will never be brothers.” But again, this mamzel, why then work I began to look for non-brothers by laying out a resume, and not in a close-in-blood Europe. Well, what else? Would you like me to amuse the soul of a nationalist oppressed by the imperial Russian colonialism in the spirit of the Western teachings of Sakher Mazo? Please, personally for you from the film Brother - “Don't you brother to me ..... asshole. "Color as you choose yourself. In general, the seditious thought did not enter the brain - how did they survive with such enemies, and even registered in the UN as co-founders ??? But, by the way, I am not a teacher to anyone, and even as I registered on the site, I always repeated and repeat to everyone - tie up with Pan-Slavism and different "brotherhood", nothing good has come of it and will not come of it - there are more important things, especially since, as already wrote

Quote: avt

Back in 1612, we all fell in love with this gentry ambition and secured it with a triple division of Poland. So it is difficult to surprise with something.

Yes for the future

Quote: Explorer

united Belarusian-Lithuanian and Polish army

But the Poles then know that

Quote: Explorer

united

????? As well as about

Quote: Explorer

Battle of Grunwald (July 15, 1410 - I think everyone knows),

Somehow I didn’t hear from them about the great rites who played a decisive role, but about the Smolensk regiments, in particular, who stood there to die. You'd better start rubbing your revelations with them, well, you are going to live in Europe. Finally, I will quote Makar, who is practically forbidden here, from his early patronized past by the KGB - “You can walk like a neglected garden, or you can shave everything off, both seen more than once. Whom did you want to surprise? "

[Conductor]

It will do, it will do. But just for what? To prove to me

to find out why read your quote, which I kindly left in front of the text.
As for the language, well, as I know (without a Google translator, if Che), I can write in such languages ​​in Polish, I can in Belarusian, at least in French or Spanish, but I’m afraid I won’t understand. Besides, there’s a mark in the site’s rules about using only the Russian language in the discussion of the article.

But the Poles then know that the combined Belarusian-Lithuanian and Polish army?

if they read their school history books, then yes, they know. Everything is written there. You will find proofs in nete if you speak Polish (of course, floor, only a dialect of the great Russian language)

Would you like me to amuse the soul of a nationalist oppressed by the imperial Russian colonialism in the spirit of the Western teachings of Sakher Mazo? Please, personally for you from the movie Brother - "You are not my brother ..... asshole"

Do you see a personal insult and "infringement" in every post of mine? It's a pity. Because your hysterical attacks and antics

wassat Well, the current is a little earlier than it was in the speech of the Commonwealth. Not one of the great Ukrainians ??? Maybe together the Black Sea was digging and building pyramids, but this secret knowledge is not known to us? Or maybe even cooler - they led the process when the great Ukrainians dug the sea and dumped the Caucasus Mountains, and built pyramids from the remains? Let me guess - not from the shelters The human race went ..... oh not from the shelters! laughing Well, okay, where are we going to fit into your showdown with greatness about greatness, we’ll do something like that, stand on one side and take a look. laughingWe loved all this gentry ambition back in 1612 and secured it with a triple division of Poland. So it is difficult to surprise with something.

cause only surprise. Look do not burst from your Orthodox greatness

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Explorer

Will it pass for "peremogi"?

Will not do. More like propaganda, juggling, or even just a lie.

"Battle of Blue Waters". The Lithuanians did not "smash" any Tatar army at the Blue Waters, because it - this army - did not appear for the "battle". The Golden Horde then was simply unable to send him. The Tatars at this time, you know, the Great Zamyatnya took place. Pieces from it and closer to the capital fell off.
The notorious "three Tatar khans", for example, the Kiev khan Dmitry, are just local appointees. That territory, unlike the rest of Russia, had direct Tatar rule with all that it implies. Well, they came out with their garrisons, in the present with the cops - what is it against the regular army of the state?
But Olgerd then annexed only the north of modern Ukraine. Part of Galicia was appropriated by the Poles. Everything else was freed from the Tatars (and Turks) by Russia even under Catherine (under Peter the little things). Except, of course, the fact that it was reunited with Russia under Bohdan Khmelnitsky (Kiev region, Poltava region and Chernigov region begged from Moscow (which Russia won back in 1500m, but gave it to Poland temporarily according to the Deulinsky armistice of 1618) - such is the "Zaporizhzhya army").

"Battle of Grunwald" There Jagiello led, i.e. Poles. You need to be more modest.

"Battle of Chashniki" This is just an episode of the Livonian war, when they managed to break the marching column, taking by surprise. There was no question of any complete defeat of the Russian army there. Lies are so stupid and primitive as they are repeating them, if only because just a little later Russia had the Battle of Molodinsky
with the Crimean Khanate. There really was a BATTLE with the corresponding strengths of the armies (but what about the "completely defeated Russian army"?) And the strategic consequences, etc. To call the defeat of the marching column, where the sloven did not provide reconnaissance and security, a battle and exaggerate the numbers Svidomo is inadequacy (or Svidomo).

"Klushin", "Polonka" This is the history of Poland. What do you have to do with it? Be proud that the Poles then had you
as part of your army?

Question. When did the principality founded by Mindovg in Navahrudak, called Black Russia, become known as the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (etc. mean the full title)?

With all my heart with the great Solonevich, who wrote: "I am a Russian man. From Belarusians."

[avt]

Quote: Nikolai S.

. More like propaganda, juggling, or even just a lie.

So I already wrote to him before that -

Quote: avt

“The" involvement of the local "elites" in the search for historical artifacts for the nationalization of local history in a very concrete opposition to Russia is quite a joke.

[Conductor]

Will it pass for "peremogi"?
Will not do. More like propaganda, juggling, or even just a lie.

Most of your arguments do not stand up to criticism. I think you yourself are well aware of this
Tell me better with the same stubbornness about myth-making in the history of Muscovite Russia (and later education too). I am ready to listen with pleasure. There is certainly something to listen to ...

[avt]

Quote: Explorer

Most of your arguments do not hold water.

And all-eee. This is a response to

Quote: Nikolai S.

be proud that the Poles then had you
as part of your army?

and so on. Again, it’s possible and actually done, to juggle cheating on something about which even CLOSE was not said

Quote: Explorer

. Look do not burst from your Orthodox greatness

Well, it’s understandable when one’s own Great Leadership grandeur is blown away. It is possible to speak about Orthodoxy about which NO WORD said, as well as about religion in general, in not one commentary today. And why not immediately about the watches of Patriarch Kirill? Oh, to me these pupils of the old Europa - we have already passed all these squiggles with those whom we had brought up for discussion before - see the quote from the song of Makarevich outlined earlier. Well, okay, get involved in human civilization further, do not forget to stock up on tires.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Explorer

Most of your arguments do not hold water.

Do not flatter yourself, you are not capable of any criticism, as no Svidomo is capable of. Otherwise, they would talk essentially. For criticism, you need to think and know a lot, but Svidomo people are not taught to think and they should not know, they are taught to stupidly believe and quote from the quote-book (like hunweibins). And they also teach to reprove on the quote-book. Thinking Svidomo, thinking hunveybin-this is nonsense. A thinking, educated person is the most terrible danger to Svidomitism, to hunveibinstva.

You can refute only by reference to the source.
But how can one refer to the State Department training manual or to it, which was distracted by the not far-off grant-eaters into a delusional textbook for Svidomo Selyuk, like: Litvin-Letuvis, Belarusians — not the Slavs, but the Baltics, and other nonsense?

So what is there with the question about the transformation of historical names: Black Russia - ON - White Russia? Is there nothing in the training manual? And the curator does not say anything?
It was a test for lice. You have not passed.

[Conductor]

But how can one refer to the State Department training manual or to it, which was distracted by the not far-off grant-eaters into a delusional textbook for Svidomo Selyuk, like: Litvin-Letuvis, Belarusians — not the Slavs, but the Baltics, and other nonsense?

Usually, those who think only "State Department manuals" and "grant-eaters", insults and other inadequate ones, do not look at the evidence, the main thing for them is to bend the stick to the end, if only their word was last. Are you one of those?

By the way, it's a bit early to write down in Svidomye, I'm not one of them. And not one of the "zmagars" either
So you can not be afraid, do not bite

[Conductor]

So what is there with the question about the transformation of historical names: Black Russia - ON - White Russia?

What kind of nonsense is written here? What transformation? White and pure Russia (parts of White Russia) - territories, land names, and ON (the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) - the state!

Is there nothing in the training manual? And the curator does not say anything?

Are you a clown? If the answer is yes, then a lot falls into place

[Conductor]

The Lithuanians did not "smash" any Tatar army at the Blue Waters, tk. it - this army - did not come to the "battle".

"Battle on Blue Waters" - you cannot say with absolute certainty that it did not exist, because there is a chronicle of Matej Stryjkovsky:

“Olgerd, having concluded an agreement of peace with the Prussian and Livonian crusaders for two years, set off on a campaign in the Wild Fields against the Tatars. His four nephews, the sons of the Novogrudok prince Koriata, the princes Alexander, Constantine, Yuri and Fedor, also went with him. Having passed Kanev and Cherkassy, ​​we reached the Sinyiye Vody tract, then we saw in the field a large Tatar horde with three kings, divided into three detachments. that the Tatars are ready for battle, lined up his own in six curved detachments, seated them in different ways on the sides and at the head, so that the Tatars, as they intended, could not surround them in ordinary battles and harm them with arrows. The Tatars began the battle with fierce zeal, having covered Lithuania with a thick hail of iron from bows, there were several skirmishes, but inflicted little losses due to its correct construction and quick maneuvering. And Lithuania and the Rusyns suddenly came with sabers and spears. and in hand-to-hand combat, they broke through their frontal parts and mixed their dances in a semicircle, while others, especially Novogrudok and Koriatovichs, descended on the sides from crossbows with arrows and threw them off their saddles with long spears, like the wind sheaves in a storm. Unable to withstand the frontal onslaught of Lithuania any longer, the Tatars began to get in the way and, afraid, flee into vast fields. Three of their kings were killed in the slaughter: Kutlubakh, Kachibey (on whose behalf the Kachibey salt lake was named in the Wild Fields on the way to Ochakov) and Sultan Dimeyter, and with them there were a lot of Murzas and Ulans. Also, everywhere in the fields and in the rivers were full of Tatar corpses. "

Criticism of this message by Stryikovsky, expressed both by supporters and opponents of its reliability, is based on the same sources and does not allow it to be reasonably confirmed or refuted

And Dmitry (Demir-Bey) was considered either the Russian prince or the Bek from Dobrudja

[Conductor]

"Battle of Grunwald" Jagiello was also in charge there; Poles. You have to be more modest.

Commanders:
Jagiello king polish;
Vytautas, Grand Duke of Lithuania
Vitovt, unfortunately, was the first to launch an uncoordinated attack on the Teutonic flank (before the battle, envoys from the crusaders arrived and handed over symbolic swords to both commanders as an invitation. Vitovt "kicked up" from the fact that they sent him a sword not from the great master, like Jagielo, but "everything only "from the grand marshall) - light cavalry went to the armored Teutonic heavy, but on a prepared defensive position. This predictably ended in failure, and then Vitovt's army was forced to retreat, simultaneously pulling the German knights out of line

Nicholas C.
You had to at least get a little familiar with the material before issuing such a hat, you are our historian

[Svetlana]

Quote: Explorer

Will it pass for "peremogs"? Well, what can you do: then it was Russia with the Tatars, and the Teutons were our main enemy

I almost described myself with delight. Then explain to me, stupid, how such a great and powerful empire (the principality that is) ended up in the Russian Empire? What did she, the great one, have forgotten or lost in infinite battles?

[Conductor]

Then I'm sorry that Avt requested, then I wrote to him. But here's how it turned out to be part of Ros. Empire is a separate story, in short (very briefly) I wrote above, but in more detail- https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belorussia_History
if it's really interesting, and not "just blurt out a comment" then read

[anti-Semite]

that's just the aggressors were you

[yastr]

One word - LIES! And do not dare to offend my people with your broomstick.

[Petergut]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

We need airplanes, not bases today.
Well, take it and buy, otherwise everything is a gift at the expense of Russia.
How did you get it this ear of corn.

This is what I understand. A substantial and thorough assessment of the personal and business qualities of the leader of the union state from the mouth of a reputable expert. Powerful! Solid! In the Far East!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Petergut

This I understand. Substantive and thorough assessment of the personal and business qualities of the head of the union state from the mouth of a reputable expert

And I stopped "loving" him after the war in Georgia, when he kissed Sakoi.

[Petergut]

That is, do you think it is permissible to use such momentum in relation to the head of the union state on a public resource of a patriotic sense?
Alexander, how would you, as a moderator, react if I spoke about the top leadership of Russia in similar epithets? Well, just interesting.

[alexej123]

And nothing reminds you of the position of your "Father" and your own? Look at Ukraine, its rulers for the past two decades. Same. An attempt to sit on two chairs and suck two mothers. As you like. By the way, he commented on this policy in relation to Yanukovych, the most pro-Russian GDP - "This is a traitor." I don’t want to offend anyone, but it seems to me that there is a similar situation in Belarus. Guys, you will decide whether you are allies or neighbors. Then behave accordingly. And then you read and wonder, "Yes, we are brothers, but do not meddle with us, we will choose our own path." Yes, the flag in hand. But why then ask for some preferences. Just buy.

[Victor jnnjdfy]

Why should Belarusians be defined between "allies" or "neighbors"? Maybe they like to consider themselves "cunning and pragmatic" and "very necessary and important" for Russia? True, I get the feeling that nowadays Russians feel completely self-sufficient and they do not really need "love of convenience" from their neighbors. But how Belarus will survive without all sorts of preferences from Russia, I don't know ...

[Conductor]

Quote: Petergut

That is, you consider it permissible to use such turns in relation to Union State Leader on a patriotic public resource?
Alexander, how would you, as a moderator, react if I spoke about the top leadership of Russia in similar epithets? Well, just interesting.

Yeah, about that we were safe
(FROM SITE RULES)
(general mention of Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech

[Starik72]

Conductor. So you can blaspheme the Belarusians on this site, but you can’t Russian Russians, so what ??? Oh you !!!

[Sling cutter]

Starik72
Do not pay attention to the victims of info-zombies and couch puzzstriots trying to divide a single people

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Petergut

That is, do you think it is permissible to use such momentum in relation to the head of the union state on a public resource of a patriotic sense?

1.And we have freedom of speech

Quote: Petergut

Alexander, how would you, as a moderator, react if I spoke about the top leadership of Russia in similar epithets?

2.This is Russian sayit!
3. I read your saits, there Putin is often watered without censorship

[Conductor]

Charter does not count

[0255]

Quote: Explorer

Charter does not count

Sometimes non-political ONLINER.BY and non-oppositional TUT.BY are considered? Sometimes they turn into CENSOR.NET according to the comments of how Putin attacked Ukraine, that Russia, even tsarist, even Soviet, even modern Putin oppresses Belarusians, that the Armata tank is cardboard and other heresies ...

[Petergut]

Quote: 0255

Sometimes non-political ONLINER.BY and non-oppositional TUT.BY are considered? Sometimes they turn into CENSOR.NET according to the comments of how Putin attacked Ukraine, that Russia, even tsarist, even Soviet, even modern Putin oppresses Belarusians, that the Armata tank is cardboard and other heresies ...

I do not read the online liner, so I can’t say anything.
With regards to TUT.BY. The site itself gives quite objective information, but in the comments there are really too many ... poop, although there are many quite normal commentators.
My opinion is that the comments of tutbaya are the battlefield of the information war. Why do I think so? I have a fairly wide circle of people with very different views. But in real life I do not observe such concentrated zmagerness.
Something like this.

[Petergut]

1. Yes, it’s much freer. Scoundrels from Vnaukraina who called for watering Colorado take people to the central canals in the morning to entertain.
2. And it's great! For some reason, I always considered Belarusians to be Russian. Was I wrong?
3. God save you, do not read before lunch of Soviet newspapers many sites.
4. Greetings to sunny Vladik from the shores of the Belarusian Sea.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Petergut

2. And it's great! For some reason, I always considered Belarusians to be Russian. Was I wrong?

We have enough cherries, both here and here, but in this case we are talking about Lukash, and he is definitely not Russian. He himself says that.

Quote: Petergut

4. Greetings to sunny Vladik from the shores of the Belarusian Sea.

Mutually

[avt]

Quote: Petergut

2. And it's great! For some reason, I always considered Belarusians to be Russian. Was I wrong?

The question to the history textbooks and their compilers, as the example of the descendants invented by the Lyakhs from the circle of Chartorylsky at the court of Sasha No. 1 shows, drove the "Liberator" - naturally Europa, the ancient Scythian tribe of the Ukrainians, nothing is impossible.

[Starik72]

Alexander Romanov, what you just wrote here, oh, how the WEST stinks! There they shout the same "Freedom of Speech", "Human Rights". This is a Russian site, so YOU ​​are a nationalist, even worse than we are Belarusians. ..... there Putin is often watered without censorship. I will answer you this way, I am a Belarusian on these stinking swamps, I don’t get along, and you, a Russian, have deigned to go to hell there. Name at least one Belarusian publication that vilifies YOUR president, just don’t tell me publications svyadomnyh and opposition.

[Conductor]

Sarcasm? And what is Romanov wrong? You, as I understand it, an ardent supporter of the prospect? For the full picture, there is still something to say about the Americans ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Explorer

Sarcasm? And what is Romanov wrong about?

Strange, but you yourself think that I'm wrong

[Conductor]

Probably confused me with Petergut

[Petergut]

Quote: Explorer

Sarcasm? And what is Romanov wrong? You, as I understand it, an ardent supporter of the prospect? For the full picture, there is still something to say about the Americans ...

Well yes, a supporter. Not an ardent, but a supporter.
Approximately the same as a supporter of V. Putin.
Frankly speaking, I am amused by all these speculations about Lukashenka, who looks to the West for two. He, and the whole of Belarus, has been under sanctions for two decades. Lukashenko has been declared "the last dictator of Europe." Every election the common people drive the gopota to overthrow the "rezhim", and the "rezhim" carry them safely to the jail. And then he suddenly once, and with the West for brotherhood. So?
But there are examples of such friendship. Messrs. Hussein and Gaddafi testify to the warmth of embrace with the West. What do you think that Lukashenko and Belarus shine in isolation from Russia? Well, if this is obvious to me, to you, Romanov, then why is this not obvious to Lukashenko. He may not be the genius of politics, but certainly not a naive suicide.
Understand that there is a public policy for general use, but there is a real policy. And this real policy is really done by Lukashenko and Putin together.


Ps. What can I tell you about the Americans?

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Petergut

... Lukashenka declared "the last dictator of Europe"

One "light movement of the hand", and at one point he will become one of the most "democratic" rulers of Qatar and Saudi Arabia ...

[Olezhek]

One "light movement of the hand", and at one point he will become one of the most "democratic" rulers of Qatar and Saudi Arabia ...

Sorry - Yanukovych was a politician completely loyal to the West. And what was done to him?
Lukashenka has no chance - he is not "his son of a bitch", alas and ah.

[Svetlana]

Auntie says golden words. Well done! Especially the last sentence! Man has lived a life and knows what to compare with. And youth is easy to fool. They do not know any other life, except for that which is called by the people of democracy.

[Conductor]

Auntie says golden words. Well done! Especially the last phrase

The last phrase is "I'd rather walk, but I won't be devoted to the Americans ... and you, the opposition, ugh, b ** de you, your fucking mother?"
Really wise!

[Hubun]

At the expense of two chairs - yeahhhh!

[demos1111]

Until he recognizes Ossetia and Abkhazia, he will not do it properly
statements in the Crimea, nor to give him anything at a discount, nor oil or gas.
He wants to let him go to Europe, there he sells Mazov with tractors, and there he gets gas.

[fa2998]

Quote: Hubun

At the expense of two chairs - yeahhhh!

Yes, about the economic component of "dad" you can safely put "five"! The entire budget is based on exports and imports. They buy Russian oil (at union prices) and export oil products. From Europe (and the whole world) it imports fruits, vegetables, seafood, and re-exports in Russia. And if, then, and take a loan in Moscow (and will not refuse!) In general, they settled well.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: fa2998

Yes, about the economic component of "father", you can safely put "five"!

- Freestuff oil and gas from Russia ended and its economic miracle ended.

[ML-334]

I have a double feeling. After the collapse of the USSR, there was talk of joining Belarus and Russia. If this happened, then 70 percent would be our president. At least he would not allow the state to be plundered.

[Dan]

Old Man, do not drift! Your people do not mind.
Belarusians.

[Shiva83483]

Yeah, the father buttered his own pitchfork, and doesn’t know how to get off. Nonsense, is Ukraine not enough for him?

[My doctor]

Quote: Shiva83483

Yeah, the father buttered his own pitchfork, and doesn’t know how to get off. Nonsense, is Ukraine not enough for him?

What nonsense do you write? HE SAYS WHAT HE WANTS TO HEAR FROM HIM THE POPULATION OF RB.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: MyVrach

HE SAYS WHAT HE WANTS TO HEAR FROM HIM THE POPULATION OF RB.

And in Russia, the people thought that he was an ally .......... but the suckers in Russia suddenly ended. And free planes too.

[Starik72]

Alexander Romanov, I see you are agitating well against Lukashenko, you can come to US and head the scattered svyadom and the opposition. I see you are savvy in these matters. Well, since you come to overthrow Lukashenko ??? Just do not Julia, answer honestly !!! EH YOU ARE RUSSIANS. I was of a higher opinion of YOU, but because of SOME it falls.

[Glot]

Nothing new, as usual, both ours and yours, Lukashenko maneuvers between two fires. For so many years, and not bad for him maneuvers.

[samarin1969]

"After all, after all, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are: a) in the EAEU and b) in the Union State." - both children are expensive in terms of money and are rather dead ... when Ossetia and Crimea arose, the father "split at the first nix" ... the base would give more control over this windy "satellite".

[Robbihood]

Where is it written that Belarus is a satellite of Russia? To the studio!

[Victorio]

Quote: robbihood

Where is it written that Belarus is a satellite of Russia? To the studio!

====
) Almost all of Europe, satellites of the United States, do not complain

[Starik72]

Victorio. Don’t nod to Europe. And where is it written in the studio that Belarus is satellite !!!

[BecmepH]

this is understandable for such a small country as our fraternal Belarus, caught between the EU and the Russian Federation,

Not "turned out", but INSERTED between the EU and the Russian Federation. And that's not an excuse. Who prevents Belarus from joining one of the parties? At least that would be fair. And then Old Man wants to eat the fish and ...

[vovanpain]

Father for a long time looked like a weather vane, where he blows there and turns his nose. An example of Yanuk who fell down from two chairs taught him nothing.

[smaug78]

Political prostitute in Belarus - a prostitute!

[kolkulon]

Well, what are you attacking? It's just that the dad is politically very gutterful. Because he is eternal.

[Loner_53]

Not father, but a split personality Rather, it stirs up some sort of freebie again.

[parusnik]

Lukashenko, anything can be expected from him, in sanctions, like in the mud, like Russia, the Western world calls him a dictator ... like ours, but he tries to paint them with fences .. guys, I'm your bourgeois .. Not only that, nationalism is slowly cherishing .. as if by chance .. I see the type of Russia that I have, but they say I’m under control while I’m in power ... and I won’t .. the genie will fly out of the bottle, you will have a second Ukraine ..

[zoknyay82]

First you need planes (preferably for nothing), then tanks, air defense, Iskander (this is also not for money, but for friendship). And then a certain Antilukashenko in a few years will get into NATO and demand restructuring of debts.

[Stirbjorn]

Well, there is a compromise option - let the cool Belarusian pilots accept the citizenship of the Russian Federation and sign a contract, and they will serve on Russian new planes at the base in Lida. True dad probably just wants - new planes and free)

[Yun Klob]

The Belarusian opposition feeds the "nation" with fodder, which Belarus has always and especially now Russia has been feeding and offers to get rid of "this yoke". Such new huntyats are growing up. I wish they were on an excursion to Siberia, for a better understanding of the thesis of friendship between peoples.

[aszzz888]

Something tells me less, the old man will not end up being a good one.
Some kind of nervous he, lately.
Elections do not give sleep?

[Dan Slav]

Well, why is this article before the election?
Old Man want to spoil?
Elections and all kinds of nonsense will be held.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Dan Slav

Old Man want to spoil?

He spoils himself not badly, but for toilet paper to us.

[okroshka79]

Yes! For the brothers-Belarusians, local comments are just a bell! We begin to slowly stop loving father father then! And why love him in Russia? We really hoped that Belarus would recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia. This is while the whole Western world proceeded to this very thing, accusing the air force of aggression against a small sovereign and proud Georgia. Well, where? And with the Crimea, whose inhabitants themselves voluntarily wanted to return to their historic home, he also said nothing. And with fiercely hating Poroshenko, he sucked in public kisses. Well, the fact that Belarus suddenly began to grow tropical fruits and catch exotic seafood for sale in Russia is another song. Yes, as I understand it, we are for him to remain the president of the Republic of Belarus, but only because we do not know other candidates and that it would not get worse. But, in general, by and large I got your father. Both yours and ours cannot last so long in history. IMHO

[znorick]

Quote: Petergut

Quote: Alexander Romanov

We need airplanes, not bases today.
Well, take it and buy, otherwise everything is a gift at the expense of Russia.
How did you get it this ear of corn.

This is what I understand. A substantial and thorough assessment of the personal and business qualities of the leader of the union state from the mouth of a reputable expert. Powerful! Solid! In the Far East!

And I agree with the opinion of Alexander Romanov - I got Lukashenko and his officials! Not only did the country’s economy get into a dead end, it also got into debt at the most reluctant, and paying off after his death (he himself is unlikely to leave, will be like Brezhnev and co) will be embittered and poor Belarusian people. But this is not enough for Lukashenko, he wants more freebies - give us airplanes, give us money! But, apparently, he still suits the Kremlin.

[znorick]

Quote: okroshka79

Yes! For the brothers-Belarusians, local comments are just a bell! We begin to slowly stop loving father father then! And why love him in Russia? We really hoped that Belarus would recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia. This is while the whole Western world proceeded to this very thing, accusing the air force of aggression against a small sovereign and proud Georgia. Well, where? And with the Crimea, whose inhabitants themselves voluntarily wanted to return to their historic home, he also said nothing. And with fiercely hating Poroshenko, he sucked in public kisses. Well, the fact that Belarus suddenly began to grow tropical fruits and catch exotic seafood for sale in Russia is another song. Yes, as I understand it, we are for him to remain the president of the Republic of Belarus, but only because we do not know other candidates and that it would not get worse. But, in general, by and large I got your father. Both yours and ours cannot last so long in history. IMHO

Well, he is not ours, not ours! His grandfather was a gypsy from Shklov, and the gypsies are not our brothers! But seriously, he not only turns Russians away from himself, he turned away from himself a significant part of the Belarusian society. The law on parasitism, for example, - for those who do not know - a person was dismissed from work (and now it is very difficult to find a job in our country), which means that this person must pay the state annually for not working! Need more examples? Please - hundreds of millions of borrowed greenbacks have been invested in the modernization of woodworking - what is the result? Two or three officials went to jail, and the enterprises, as they did G, did not change anything. He is building these palaces and ice arenas, and in the new neighborhoods there are no sidewalks, schools, kindergartens and clinics. Enterprises manufacture products according to plans issued by executive committees, as a result - warehouses are overcrowded, people are laid off, etc. Nobody trolls him - he is his own troll! During his career "from rags to riches" - he deceived his electorate thousands of times!

[HMR333]

what do you write for rubbish if a person was fired, he will be registered and will look for a robot and there’s nothing for him to pay, only those who knowingly do not work pay! you yourself are a gypsy oppositionist, unlike your nonsense incriminating, he proved his dignity by deeds! you yourself understood that the officials wrote that they stole them for it, he’s bad, well, you’re a Troll! YOU EVEN WOULD NOT WRITTEN WHAT FOR THE FACTORY TO DO NOT REFUT THE PRESENT FACTS your words are worthless pennies of the opposition! you are Belarusian products one of the highest quality refrigerators they sell all over the CIS and maybe you weren’t even interested in it, and you write that it’s all in warehouses! it’s because of people like you and your scribbling deceitful that some people have a negative opinion about him! he is not an angel he is a great honest man !!!
MAN SUCH BEING HIM HOW MUCH DON'T GIVE IT EVERYONE WILL ALWAYS FIND WHAT TO complain!

[znorick]

If the opinion that is different from yours is, in your opinion, oppositional, then you can consider me your oppositionist) In reality, Lukashenko and Svidomo Zmagars do not impress me.
Firstly, it is not correct to discuss anything, turning to the individual.
Secondly, a person has the right not to work (why should he pay for this?), And in order for someone not to be offended that he is working, and the benefits of society are enjoyed by "parasites", it is necessary to introduce civilized measures - paid medicine for such comrades, for example.
Thirdly, you must have fallen from the moon and have not been interested in the situation in the real sector for a long time. Or maybe you don’t live in Belarus at all? The territory of such a huge enterprise as Gomselmash, for example, has long become a fleet of useless combines. About MTZ and MAZ generally keep quiet.
Fourth, official information is constantly published on lost enterprises, and on the size of staff reductions. Abbreviations are not related to the robotization of production, but to the complete collapse of lukanomika.
About the Belarusian quality, it’s better to be silent - do not disgrace. And for the experiment, buy Belarusian clothes and work on the Belarusian combine. And to make it more fun - eat the Belarusian papaya.
And finally, Lukashenka is still a "chasny muzhik". How many times has he made gifts for the new year in the form of devaluations? How many times has he promised high salaries to the people? How many times did he say one thing today and do the opposite tomorrow? His "chasnasti" makes him sick.

[Robbihood]

I don’t know where you are, venerable, but don’t give off your anger at Belarus for the opinion of Belarusians. I won’t talk about AHL - it’s useless as long as there are people who grew up under the USSR. I have a dual attitude towards him. But about our products - your lie. I don’t know about combines - not a specialist. But if they buy it, then there is a reasonable ratio of price and quality. But our household appliances, light industry (fabrics, knitwear and CLOTHING, shoes) are very good. In terms of price and quality. Especially shoes and knitwear. I’m silent about the products. You can force the territory of MAZ, Gomselmash weekly production. Yes, the recession, mainly due to = a decrease in the solvency of Russian buyers. Hard. We will do something. But swearing indiscriminately the whole country is worthless.

[znorick]

I am a citizen of the Republic of Belarus and live in Gomel. I don’t know where you found my "grudge" against Belarus. The fact that I have my own position on key economic and social problems, my attitude towards Belarusian officials and the government is my right. And if I am not satisfied with Lukashenka’s activities, this does not mean that I hate my country. In essence, the price-quality ratio for many groups of goods, especially in the light industry, is very sad. Tell me honestly - do you buy Belarusian knitwear? Yes, there are certain successes in the food industry, but if you take mechanical engineering, then it's just a disaster. For gomselmash - open a satellite map and try to count how many harvesters will fit on its territory. Obviously not a weekly stamping. And the recession in the economy, not so much because of the Russian devaluation, but because of the collective farm demagoguery from his lips, because of the stupidity of officials and the entire state system as a whole. Tell me, what do you call a person who borrows money so that he can walk when the roof is leaking?

[znorick]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: MyVrach

HE SAYS WHAT HE WANTS TO HEAR FROM HIM THE POPULATION OF RB.

And in Russia, the people thought that he was an ally .......... but the suckers in Russia suddenly ended. And free planes too.

Are you seriously? When was the last time he was interested in the opinion of the people?

[Belarus]

Are you seriously? When was the last time he was interested in the opinion of the people?

If you want, I’ll answer you: never. And elections are a pure pharmacy, at least in our country.
Interesting: but the Russians would like the Russian Federation to manage so much time Yeltsin ????

[Belarus]

Are you seriously? When was the last time he was interested in the opinion of the people?

If you want, I’ll answer you: never. And elections are a pure pharmacy, at least in our country.
Interesting: but the Russians would like the Russian Federation to manage so much time Yeltsin ????

[Svetlana]

Quote: Belarus

Interesting: but the Russians would like the Russian Federation to manage so much time Yeltsin ????

The example of Yeltsin is inappropriate. Many of the Russians would like for the Russian Federation to be controlled by your Old Man instead of the iPhone’s prime minister and as long as possible. I think it would be a good idea. He and Putin would have changed the economic situation in Russia in the bud. We have only pathetic words about import substitution from the head of government, but we need to do things like Old Man.

[Svetlana]

Old Man has nothing to worry about his voters. Most Belarusians are ready to break their mouth for Old Man. And a closer and more reliable ally for Russia than Belarus simply does not exist in nature.

[Robbihood]

After reading the comments of the "allies", I understand why the supporters of close relations with today's Russia remain mainly among the elderly people who grew up in the USSR. But I think this is a dead-end position. And if you can leave from a relative, then from a geographical neighbor it will not work. And how he will treat you depends on your behavior. I think it is very pleasant to realize that the Republic of Vanuatu is your loyal ally, but there is little practical benefit.

[Olezhek]

After reading the comments of the "allies",

In principle, I agree - Belarus is an "ally". It so happened, no one is to blame.

And if it is possible to leave from a relative, it will not work from a geographical neighbor. And how he will treat you depends on your behavior.

Absolutely! Attitude towards Belarus is shaped by the behavior of its leader.
By the way, thanks for the support during the attack on our peacekeepers in South Ossetia.
Thank you for the clear pro-Russian position on all foreign policy issues.

I think it is very pleasant to realize that the Republic of Vanuatu is your loyal ally, but there is little practical use.

What is the use of Belarus? You can argue?
By the way, the Republic of Nicaragua, in contrast to the allied Belarus, RECOGNIZED both Ossetia and Abkhazia.
So you need to help - Nicaragua. Brave guys - they have the United States at hand, and they are friends with Russia.
From them there is a use.

[Robbihood]

One question. What happened after recognition of Nicaragua Ossetia and Abkhazia? Has the situation improved in these areas?

[Olezhek]

One question. What happened after recognition of Nicaragua Ossetia and Abkhazia? Has the situation improved in these areas?

This is another question.

[KGB WATCH YOU]

Of the recent pearls of Lukashenko during a visit to the MZKT, August 2015:
“We are scared that Russia, they say, will invent its own“ centipedes ”and will transport nuclear warheads on its own - and on health! If they have today brains and money, which they do not have “Let them invent!”

I am interested in your opinion on this statement?

I love Belarus and Belarus, but I don’t digest Lukashenko. You understand, we are 2 independent states - Russia and Belarus (unfortunately). And if we are in a union, then a larger and stronger state, cannot always obey and obey the will of a smaller state, with a capricious leader. These rules were not invented by us, all over the world.

[Svetlana]

Quote: robbihood

After reading the comments of the "allies", I understand why the supporters of close relations with today's Russia remain mainly among the elderly people who grew up in the USSR. But I think this is a dead-end position. And if you can leave from a relative, then from a geographical neighbor it will not work. And how he will treat you depends on your behavior. I think it is very pleasant to realize that the Republic of Vanuatu is your loyal ally, but there is little practical benefit.

Dear robbihood! After reading your comment, I saw that you contradict yourself. So I didn't understand, are you "for" allied relations with Russia, as a geographical neighbor and blood brother, or "against"?

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Svetlana

Dear robbihood! After reading your comment, I saw that you contradict yourself. So I didn't understand, are you "for" allied relations with Russia, as a geographical neighbor and blood brother, or "against"?

Well, right, Svetlana, you are asking some uncomfortable questions ...

[Belarus]

The situation in our country is similar to the situation in which the Belarusian pharaoh is the main one. Which is located at the very top of the pyramid and when it looks down, it doesn’t see what is happening below with ordinary people. It’s possible that the clouds are closing in the form of official reports on the situation in country. And at the bottom of the pyramid’s base there is a ditch where various kinds of predators (officials of all stripes) are found and in order for an ordinary person to get to the pharaoh with problems, he needs to overcome this ditch. But if a person overcomes this ditch, then he’s already have to go further He is not. And about the economy, I generally keep quiet.
The conclusion from this is as follows: the Russian Federation puts on one person and not on the people who still remained in the Republic of Belarus and supports the Russian Federation, you do not need to touch the AHL and do not need to pay attention to it - you never know what it says in that spirit.
Of course, I’ll go to vote, but I can say the result right away: in the region of 80% + the AHL will win. We pay attention to the problems of the people once every 1 years.
In our country, supporters of the Russian Federation are becoming less and less every year, all relations with the Russian Federation are built on gas or oil, there are no cultural centers, there are no days of Russian culture or films, and so on. In five years, the familiar story will repeat from one of the countries of the CIS.

[Olezhek]

In our country, supporters of the Russian Federation are becoming less and less every year, all relations with the Russian Federation are built on gas or oil, there are no cultural centers, there are no days of Russian culture or films, and so on. In five years, the familiar story will repeat from one of the countries of the CIS.

Do you mean Ukraine (will not be remembered by the night) ??
Excuse me, choose - or Square - but then your future is like your problem.
Or integration with Russia on 95% - but here and now.

There will be no Russian cultural centers (they will be in Africa)
Stop fooling around - make a decision ... You or with us or not
Days of Russian culture in Bobruisk .. and the surprised aborigines ...

The time for half decisions has passed.
Days of Russian films, too, will not be, not funny.
Are you either in Russia or in the footsteps of ukroevrointegrator ...

[Belarus]

I made my choice, and about the rest that you wrote, write not here but to the AHL website and there express your complaints to him.
About the fact that there will be no cultural days of the Russian Federation, then this is your problem and not ours. You should not think that you can drive everyone under your influence with the help of ultimatums.
Thanks to people like you, many of you simply hate you and it’s good that there are few like you

[Prutkov]

The situation is difficult for Old Man - some consider him a dictator, others - a traitor. He, of course, is not an angel and does not forget his pocket. Who is the "saint" here? Look, we have solid "enlightened and civilized Europeans" ditched the country in less than two years. And you need to look closely at the behavior of the Old Man in order to understand his motives. It would seem that after the Maidan and the Yanukovych story, he had to tighten the "screws in full", break off relations with Ukraine. On the contrary, he began to "make friends at home", to flirt with the "civilized West". Why? Because Belarus is currently the only transit land corridor between Russia and the EU. Ukraine is turning from a major world transit corridor into a major "world dead end - European Somalia." And so that the Belarusian corridor does not collapse ahead of time Old Man and pretends to be a "liberal". Belarus is gradually being withdrawn into European diplomacy. And all these Minsk talks are aimed at raising the level of Minsk. Now Belarus will gradually move to a higher, European level, if the Belarusian brothers themselves do not screw up and arrange a Maidan. It's hard for Old Man to sit on two chairs. But it endures ... It would be good for the Belarusians to understand that the fate of their country is being decided today - to become on the level of other European countries or to turn into a "European Libya" (the "European Somalia" position is already occupied by Ukraine). And the economic crisis ... It is everywhere now. At the expense of the quality of Belarusian goods. For the last five years, a quality product in Ukraine is a Belarusian product. It got to the point that Belarusian brands are forged.

[Olezhek]

Difficult for Farther situation - some consider it as a dictator, others - a traitor.

BUT nobody - OTHER ..
Strange, yes?

[Svetlana]

Quote: Olezhek

Difficult for Farther situation - some consider it as a dictator, others - a traitor.

BUT nobody - OTHER ..

I know at least one well-known person who considers Old Man a friend. This is the GDP. And that says a lot.

[mich]

He has one friend - Mr. Poroshenko, as my grandfather said: there is no worse prince than from the mud!

[Olezhek]

... It's hard for Old Man to sit on two chairs. But he suffers ... It would be good for the Belarusians to understand that the fate of their country is being decided today - to become on the level of other European countries or to turn into "European Libya"

Belarus had exactly 2 (two) two / zwei / deux variants

1) Full integration with Russia - political, economic, military.
2) Way of Ukraine.

The first option But father rejected. Sho we may? That sho May.
Yes, Ukraine, too, dreamed of living in France at the expense of Russia, did not grow together.
Further explain ??

[Aleksandr1959]

Yes .. fuck understand about the base, then they are going to organize it in Lida, then Glavkom Bondarev then announces about Bobruisk ... now again we are talking about Lida.
Our president does not sign such orders with the bulldozer.

[KGB WATCH YOU]

Let the base be there, it won't go anywhere. As far as I know, our planes are already in Belarus, it seems that for about 2 years, they are only not designed as a "base". Just before the elections, it starts to wag, so that the zmgars do not "bomb".

But still, I (Luke) do not digest it. Of the recent pearls of Lukashenko during a visit to the MZKT, August 2015:
“We are scared that Russia, they say, will invent its“ centipedes ”and will transport nuclear warheads on its own - and on health! If they have brains and money today that they don’t have “Let them invent!”
Good, respectfully spoke directly!

[Olezhek]

You know - this is exactly what I expected from Lukashenka.
But in general, how strange it turns out is the fact that fraternal Russia is going to place its base on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, for some reason it causes a sharp rejection of the fraternal Belarusians ... And Lukashenka must refuse ...
Somehow it is suspicious ..
Maybe these brothers should be released on "free bread" ???
If everything is so difficult? We do not impose.
And why is it - the Ukrainian Crimea (from the point of view of a sayuznik), but should Russia help it ??
A person DOES NOT recognize the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation .. And asks Russia for money.
Here the comrades of Belarus - either cowards or a cross ...
Choose.

[serverny]

It is touching how the majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation here write Belarusians as horses and zmagars in advance, relying on such authoritative sources as "comments on TUT.by".

Let’s then draw conclusions about the policies and moods of citizens of the Russian Federation according to the comments on the Tape.

Such comrades, sowing hatred and mistrust between the two peoples in advance, are in fact working for the West. Well, complete ignorance of what a "Union State" is shows their level of education and intellectual development.

[Svetlana]

Quote: serverny

Such comrades, sowing hatred and mistrust between the two peoples in advance, are in fact working for the West. Well, complete ignorance of what a "Union State" is shows their level of education and intellectual development.

I support you!

[Olezhek]

It touches the way the majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation write down Belarusians in horses and zmagars in advance,

And no one writes there all the Belarusians.
As no one writes ALL Ukrainians in Bandera.

However, we have the policy of Belarus that we have. Not once in a critical situation, Lukashenko has definitely stood on the side of Russia.

So it goes.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: serverny

Such comrades, sowing in advance hatred and distrust between two peoples,

Quote: Svetlana

I support you!

That's right. Whoever tries to pour mud at Lukashenko, let them try to compare the rates of economic growth, the development of agriculture and production, and also will not forget the situation in health care and education, and then just in case, the number of oligarchs and Asians per capita in Belarus and the Russian Federation.
And the idea that the supply of cheap oil to the Republic of Belarus somehow affects the welfare of the population of the Russian Federation seems quite naive.
If it was already not possible to keep the Union in the 91st, then at least now do not shake the relations between fraternal peoples with your nonsense ...

[Urri]

Quote: serverny

It is touching how the majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation here write Belarusians as horses and zmagars in advance, relying on such authoritative sources as "comments on TUT.by".

1 Tutbay-Svidomo garbage? This is a regular unit of Jewish human rights defenders with a central server in Sydney. It’s quite a front of the information war, from where all the uncontrolled stray Svidomo have long been swept away.

2 Election weekend. Superfluous stinks (I made a mistake, I wanted to write "excitement", but as it happened - IMHO, more precisely, let it remain) of the public, whoever it is, is useless. Otherwise, they may start asking questions about interest, and go - go. No geta needed.

3 What base will be and where is the issue of bargaining. MAZ has already been sold six times, then not sold to Russians. Belaruskali - twice. Why not base in the second round? Well, you have to earn. It is necessary.

[Olezhek]

Election weekend. Excessive stinks (I was wrong, I wanted to write "excitement", but as it happened - IMHO, or rather, let it remain) of the public, whoever it is - to nothing

As it is somewhat offensive. Why is the Russian military base causing "unrest" ??
These "unrest" of fraternal Belarusians - are already raising questions among Russians ...

Which base will be and where - this is a question of bargaining. MAZ was sold six times, then it wasn’t sold to Russians

"Yes, I sold my homeland for this !!"
"Not cheap?" FROM

It is written in the next house with paint (hooligan grows) - don't sweat the Motherland ...

It's sad to look at you in short.

[Loyka]

Quote: smaug78

Political prostitute in Belarus - a prostitute!

A. Lukashenko after being elected President:
- made Russian the second state language;
-posted the main state holiday on the day of the liberation of Belarus from the Nazis;
- never abandoned the Soviet past, returned to the country Soviet symbols, coat of arms, flag;
- did not allow the "dashing 90s" in Belarus, destroyed the crime;
-Do not allow plundering (collateral auctions, etc.) state. property;
-always criticized the West, perhaps the only one in the world sent an American ambassador from the country;
- never asked Solana "as a joke" in 2000 (?) to accept the country into NATO;
- I didn’t let a dime from the Russian subsidies to Belarus be stolen, everything went to create the foundations of a social state in territories with a lack of minerals, fertile soil, sea ports, etc. On such lands, some neighbors simply no longer live people ....
ps I consider myself a supporter of the Russian World.

[Olezhek]

A. Lukashenko after being elected President:

The last 25 years have been a very difficult time for Russia, I think everyone will agree with that.
Too shy to ask..
What did Lukashenko do for Russia ???
I am a fan of the Russian world.

[Andryukha G]

The author of the article is a little off topic:
1. The 116th Guards Assault Air Base of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus (now armed with Su-25 attack aircraft (remained after the collapse of the USSR) and combat training L-39 (purchased in Ukraine in 2005, used, after overhaul) is deployed in Lida ). In April 2015 bought in Russia there are 4 combat training Yak-130s (the first one arrived in April 2015, assembled on the spot and trained flight specialists by Russian specialists and flight instructors). Apparently due to the fact that in Lida this year new Yak-130s purchased from Russia appeared and the author Taldychit about the Russian base in Lida which (naturally) is not.
2. In terms of size, location and equipment, an aerodrome in Bobruisk is more suitable (not so close to the borders of NATO - to forestall a sudden defeat in case of conflict).

[fa2998]

Quote: Petergut

You are wrong. This refers to the Union State of Russia and Belarus.

What are you talking about ?! This stillborn community is now needed only because Belarus gets its "nishtyaks", and the ability to "master" (cut) the budget of the union state. All attempts to somehow deepen the union, integration have been blocked by Minsk for 15 years. To terminate this unnecessary and overhead agreement. They will not lag behind us without it. The whole economy is tied to Russia, so let's cooperate mutually beneficial! AND YOUR AVOCADO, KIWI, OCMINOS, LAGNUSTA AND PRAWNS - EAT YOURSELF !!!

[Cat man null]

Quote: fa2998

KIWI

[Olezhek]

This stillborn community is now needed only because Belarus gets its "nishtyaks" and the opportunity to "master" (cut) the budget of the union state. All attempts to somehow deepen the union, integration have been blocked by Minsk for 15 years.

Here I am about the same. Here one comrade offered to create "Russian cultural centers .."
Funny.
Belarusians strictly defend their sovereignty, dreaming apparently to give it to the European Union ..
Sorry - Russia is all that is not very interesting.
It is not necessary to dissolve anything - but with relations with the Republic of Belarus it is necessary to clarify the situation.
Spread all the dots above ..

[CRASH]

But father’s ass will burst soon, from attempts to sit on two chairs.

[mich]

Quote: Explorer

A worthy candidate is

[vfck]

and dad always jumps like a girl on ... well, you understand :)

[Bayun]

Things in the world are SERIOUS !!! And then the opinion of Ukraine, Belarus, etc. We are talking about whether we will ALL tomorrow or not, and they have "opinions". It is necessary to act, but those who were with "opinions" hung on their hands and feet. About idiots, which is against the question: what difference does it make to them whether the tide or ebb will wipe them out of human memory. Poor fellows ...

[Oldblind]

Hello! I'm new here, well in terms of the comments. About 2 years I read IN, but I didn’t want to comment, but then it started to boil ... It was boiling, right, for a long time, but my hands did not reach the registration.
That's what I'm talking about, I live in Belarus, a citizen and all things, the truth was born in the RSFSR, in Strezhevoy. But my parents decided that we would live in the BSSR, and, until I was one year old, moved to Minsk. I grew up here, unlearned, served, once again unlearned, work, started a family.
The background is long, but what am I doing. I love Belarus with all my heart! But, also, with all my heart I love Russia! I consider myself both Russian and Belarus.
And now to the topic. I am not particularly good at Lukashenka, well, to put it mildly ... But the eternal question: who, if not him, at this stage? All commentary (zmagars do not count), can you say who would have behaved better in the current situation for Belarus? Yes, he is trying to sit on "two chairs", but he is disingenuous, but what to do in this country? It’s me, if anything, about foreign policy, about domestic, say something good - thank you! He is trying, yes, for himself as well, but also for the Republic of Bashkortostan he is trying ... and wherever there ... And about the people, all the more I will say that the majority of Belarusians are for unity, friendship with Russia (zmagars do not count - there is a clinic).
Article - stuffing! The stuffing-in on the eve of the elections is obvious. To defame, pour over gu ... ohm - yes, of course)) But, who should replace him? As a person constantly living and working here, in the Republic of Belarus, I cannot answer and see no options. "Apazitsya kaneshne bachyts svaih kandydataў", but forgive the circus on the road, not the candidates. In addition, everyone without exception, like every "zmagar", considers it their duty to misinterpret our history and roots - and, forgive me, this makes me sick ...

In general, guys, it was a cry from the heart, nothing more, just tired of reading that Belarusians, like "k_akly" traitors ... I'm with you;)

[Oldblind]

Quote: Olezhek

It touches the way the majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation write down Belarusians in horses and zmagars in advance,

And no one writes there all the Belarusians.
As no one writes ALL Ukrainians in Bandera.

However, we have the policy of Belarus that we have. Not once in a critical situation, Lukashenko has definitely stood on the side of Russia.

So it goes.

Well, didn’t you get up? Are you guided by what? The fact that it did not recognize South Ossetia and Ab'ia, Crimea? Yes, I recognized, believe me, I recognized, but not for you, and not for us;)
The bottom line is that he is here like a kind of fellow, he tries his best, flaunts - "Well done: and Minsk meetings and trawling and" you know what else ":) But, let's paint gray matter on the walls, and then that's it it will become extremely clear (maybe not extremely) - he is dependent on ...! opan, what a turn !, let's guess from whom)))

[Olezhek]

Colleague - welcome to the site!
This topic excited me so much that I also scribbled an article.

http://topwar.ru/84011-minskie-raznoglasiya.html

and expressed there already EVERYTHING that I think ...

[GDV]

These are dangerous games, both yours and ours, you can easily repeat the fate of, for example, Gaddafi.