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In the Strategic Missile Forces are developing a system that can recognize in the bushes sniper

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Scientists of the Military Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces are working to create a system of optical-electronic definition of well-disguised objects, reports MIC with reference to the Academy researcher Mikhail Konyukhov.




“Suppose there is a sniper sitting somewhere in the bushes, he has a camouflage suit on, etc. You need to understand - it's just a bush or there is a sniper. To do this, we irradiate every part of the terrain in different wavelength ranges and, by the reflected optical signal, we see, for example, that one of the green objects includes inorganic elements, and the bush is a bush. Thus, we, by monitoring the surroundings, can detect masked objects. ”- told Konyukhov.

According to the scientist, "the existing conceptual layout has already been created, which contains the main nodes that demonstrate how the installation is capable of functioning."

He noted that "it can also be used for the purposes of optical-electronic countermeasures and as a rangefinder."

“The Strategic Missile Forces are interested in the protection of mobile soil complexes (PGRK) from high-precision weapons. For example, when our system detects an attack using a cruise missile, it begins to exert optical-electronic countermeasures, and at the moment when the rocket is already “blind”, the PGRK can move and thereby increase the likelihood of its miss, ”said Konyukhov.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 7 October 2015 17: 08 New
    +19
    It's a cool thing, but I don’t get it, why is only the Strategic Missile Forces interested in such developments?
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 7 October 2015 17: 39 New
      +8
      Quote: Vladimirets
      It's a cool thing, but I don’t get it, why is only the Strategic Missile Forces interested in such developments?

      Now they are finally thinking about the safety of launchers on the march. There is also news on the site that they developed anti-cumulative and anti-bullet (as I understood against bb bullets) armor protection for launchers. We argued back in the 90s that on the route of advancing a sniper with special weapons they pose a very serious threat and specialists will not catch everyone. And so you are certainly right. All these developments will be very popular in the army.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 7 October 2015 17: 53 New
        +6
        Quote: Mitek
        Now they are finally thinking about the safety of launchers on the march.

        It has long been necessary.
        And so, there are a lot of these systems -
        http://www.bnti.ru/index.asp?tbl=02.04.&p=2
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 7 October 2015 19: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Mitek
        We argued back in the 90s that on the sniper advancement route with special weapons they pose a very serious threat and specialists will not catch everyone


        This is certainly true, but there is one caveat .. I don’t know how on modern APUs but on the good old 7917 it was quite difficult to hit vital devices even with sniper weapons on the march because the same AGKs and NTsVK had quite serious bulletproof protection. With regards to TPK, I remember shooting at him from a meter with the PM the bullet was stuck inside / in the decommissioned course at the training ground /, they didn’t risk from AK not to burn before the authorities repeat In principle, it is possible to calculate the characteristic characteristics of weapons from approximately the distance you can penetrate TPK from automatic weapons. Well, at the BSPP, such joy cannot be provided to the enemy in principle, because if such a case becomes worthless ... In my time, the situation with security and defense at the checkpoint and march in peacetime was the most painful place, now it pleases me that this problem taken seriously.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic
          the situation with security and defense at the checkpoint and march in peacetime was the most painful place, now it is pleasing that this problem was taken seriously.



          !!!

          I am also glad that they began to take this matter more seriously ...
          And I would like to add that there should be no room for recruiting boys in security divisions, and even more so in anti-sabotage groups ... Otherwise, just a division-regiment-division may not be able to carry out a combat mission, and it will not be allowed to be carried out by just a good sniper from the DRG the enemy ...

          PSA, then there is too much talk about a massive attack on PR with cruise missiles and other iron, but on such seemingly elementary things, there has always been little attention ...

          Even at the BZHRK the security system (it would seem - modern) came in raw, unfinished form ... But industry, research institutes 4 and some military men with large epaulettes of the Order received letters of honor for it ...
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 19: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Mitek
        All these developments will be very popular in the army.



        But for the Strategic Missile Forces, this problem was eternal, especially when ground-based RS-type R-12s stood for several hours on the launch pad (refueling, mounted the warhead, a mission was introduced), and were located in the same Western Ukraine and the Baltic sisters ...

        A good sniper shot at the product - and it either does not fly anywhere, or leaves a given path ...

        Then the same thing happened with the Pioneers, then - Topoli - especially on the march ... So this thing for anti-sabotage units is the very thing ...

        Well, of course, not only for the Strategic Missile Forces, but in general for all the RF Armed Forces ...
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 7 October 2015 17: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Cool thing only i don't get it

      I agree that the thing is cool))) but please forgive me - I do not understand where the photo for the article was taken from? !!! laughing shoes especially at the first forehead - test))
      This is whom they caught and dressed up? )))
      PS
      If civil, then why is he such a pig?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 7 October 2015 17: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Scoun
        but please forgive me - I don’t understand where the photo for the article was taken from ?!

        Lately, there are a lot of similar photos to articles in VO that have a little overlap with the article itself. Well, here, in terms of meaning, those who can be found. laughing
      2. ssn18
        ssn18 7 October 2015 18: 15 New
        +1
        "..I don’t understand where the photo for the article is taken from .."

        And this is important?
    3. ssn18
      ssn18 7 October 2015 18: 13 New
      +1
      Yes, because the main view of the sun.
    4. evil partisan
      evil partisan 7 October 2015 18: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Why are such developments only the Strategic Missile Forces interested in?

      Ipt. I explain how I understood. The system was ordered by the Strategic Missile Forces. They will definitely do it. yes
      And then, when it succeeds, they will share it with other types of troops. Or do not share? belay
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Or do not share?



        Under the USSR, the terrible problem and the expenditure of minds and money was just such a departmental division ... How much time was spent and resources, and almost every type of military service created systems close in terms of performance characteristics to each other ...

        However, now, it seems to me, the approach has changed somewhat ... Sailors will share something good with the land-mates (adapting, of course), and vice versa ...

        So, if this ordered Strategic Missile Forces system turns out to be successful, practical, efficient, then I hope it will go to the army, the fleet (coastal units), and aviation ...
    5. gjv
      gjv 7 October 2015 18: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Why are such developments only the Strategic Missile Forces interested in?

      Quote: iliitch
      Will share. Do not do the same thing with a dozen KB, it's good to throw dibs.

      Quote: Maxom75
      This is for the whole army, the question is in size. Will it be a small device or a bulky bandura element.

      It is interesting how close or far this development is from aviation systems.

      OES-52


      Lanner-A (HB5-0101) provides surveillance in different fields of view of television and thermal imaging cameras placed on a gyro-stabilized platform. Fully compensated for such negatively affecting the image factors such as vibration and pitching. The almost all-round visibility provided by the device is supplemented by a digital filtering system to improve image quality under adverse conditions (haze, fog, precipitation, low light, etc.). A low-level high-resolution TV camera enables the detection of small targets and their recognition over long distances, including in low light.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: gjv
        I wonder how close or far this development is from aviation systems.



        You somehow incorrectly posed the question ...

        What the article says, and what you show in the photographs and try to compare, have completely different tasks and purposes ...

        If you knew about how the guarding and defense of the position area of ​​the missile division regiment is organized, you would not ask questions. And no one will be able to answer openly to you - uninspiring ...
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  4. kil 31
    kil 31 7 October 2015 17: 10 New
    +5
    Let a good thing work out. There will be where to check in the spring, there is not far. Now it would not hurt how to find among the bricks.
    1. roman_pilot
      roman_pilot 7 October 2015 17: 37 New
      +6
      thermal imager to help
  5. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 7 October 2015 17: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    It's a cool thing, but I don’t get it, why is such a thing only of interest to the Strategic Missile Forces?


    Will share. Do not do the same thing with a dozen KB, it's good to throw dibs.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 October 2015 17: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: iliitch
      Will share

      This is understandable, but it’s the same as if NPO Almaz were developing a new hand grenade. request
      1. figter
        figter 7 October 2015 18: 20 New
        0
        Suppose a sniper is sitting somewhere in the bushes, wearing a camouflage suit, etc. You need to understand - it's just a bush or a sniper there. To do this, we irradiate each part of the terrain in different wavelength ranges and by the reflected optical signal we see, for example, that one of the green objects includes inorganic elements, and the bush is a bush. Thus, having monitored the surroundings, we can detect disguised objects, ”said Konyukhov.

        I represent the joy of those who will serve in the Strategic Missile Forces when equipping units with such equipment! They will be happy, being in position, to be constantly irradiated and recognizable for the presence of organic substances in them! After some time, they will be immensely grateful to the military "inventors" and Comrade Konyukhov.
        1. ssn18
          ssn18 7 October 2015 18: 39 New
          +1
          "They will be happy, being in position, to be constantly irradiated .."

          It must be assumed that people in positions will not be exposed to radiation, because it makes no sense to scan what is inside the position, it is necessary to scan what is outside.
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 17 New
          0
          Quote: figter
          Imagine the joy of those



          Read carefully and thoughtfully ...

          And if you don’t know basic things - ask ...

          And if he came to troll and play a trick - I think not for long ...
      2. ssn18
        ssn18 7 October 2015 18: 22 New
        +1
        I would say a somewhat inappropriate comparison. The Strategic Missile Forces Academy conducts development purely in its interests and must be assumed in accordance with the received technical specifications. I do not exclude that other interested organizations are working on this topic. The best will be adopted.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 18 New
          0
          Quote: ssn18
          I do not exclude that other interested organizations are working on this topic.



          The work of all military research institutes is interconnected ... If there are no unnecessary aplomings among the commanders and the chiefs of the research institute, then no problems should arise ...
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        This is understandable, but it’s the same as if NPO Almaz were developing a new hand grenade.



        Interdepartmental problems have always been in the SA and in the Russian Federation above the roof ...

        In this particular case, the Strategic Missile Forces protection of the PR is one of the most important ... But the land investigators, say, are not going to develop it - too "a small" topic (yes, yes !!! do not confuse scientists and military officers and soldiers) .. So the Strategic Missile Forces were forced to take this burden on their shoulders ...

        And, I hope, they will share ... all these feuds need to be thrown overboard to hell ...
  6. awersa
    awersa 7 October 2015 17: 16 New
    +2
    Looks like an expensive "toy" will be ..., but where necessary - it will definitely appear)))
  7. roskot
    roskot 7 October 2015 17: 17 New
    0
    Technique is on the verge of fiction.
  8. valokordin
    valokordin 7 October 2015 17: 20 New
    +1
    Send the device to Donbass for testing. Death to the Nazis and Bandera.
  9. Maxom75
    Maxom75 7 October 2015 17: 20 New
    0
    This is for the whole army, the question is in size. Will it be a small device or a bulky bandura element.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Maxom75
      This is for the whole army, the question is in size. Will it be a small device or a bulky bandura element.



      For the Strategic Missile Forces, this does not play a huge role ... I will explain why ...

      The positional region of the Voivode (and the future Sarmatia) is stationary, provided with independent electricity, etc., etc. Shelter in the PR this "bandura" - no problem ...

      For PGRK - if the complex can be mounted on an armored personnel carrier or something similar - it will also be normal ...

      Well, in other types of troops. - there they will finalize it again and so on. etc.
  10. valokordin
    valokordin 7 October 2015 17: 22 New
    0
    The device must be sent to the Donbass and no need to be removed from the site.
  11. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 7 October 2015 17: 32 New
    +2
    I think such equipment will be in demand not only in the Strategic Missile Forces. Useful thing.
  12. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 7 October 2015 17: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: iliitch
    Will share

    This is understandable, but it’s the same as if NPO Almaz were developing a new hand grenade. request


    As I understand it, this is a scientific development at the concept level, and then they will give it to the "address" so that they bring it to iron.
  13. andr327
    andr327 7 October 2015 17: 37 New
    +4
    In fact, the presence of a sniper near the position of the APU is already a defeat, this should be done by the land investigators. There should be sweeping, curfew, and disguise. Looking at the recent speeches of rocket academics, some sergeant approach, the approach of the level of the squad commander, draws attention. for show.
    For example, the invented cloud generator was tested somewhere else in the year 85-87. I saw his work on the ground - beautifully, but from an airplane and a helicopter - one laugh, the best way to aim at an area target.
    But serious work on combat use (maneuver, dispersal, ensuring the continuity of control, communications, ensuring technical readiness, etc.) is not heard. According to the materials of the MO site and ours, I have never seen that the Strategic Missile Forces work out interactions with other types of troops.
    In a word, the strategists pulverized. But this is our main thing, our independence, freedom and prosperity.
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 7 October 2015 18: 26 New
      +1
      Maybe even lay out the ciphers?
      Probably your admission form is such that you know little, but this is too much, judging by the language
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 7 October 2015 20: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: andr327
      I have never seen that the Strategic Missile Forces work out interactions with other types of troops.



      HERE !!! Exactly !!!

      On paper, this interaction has always existed (for KShU), however, for all my service I know that not only in our army, but in others, REALLY, these questions were not worked out !!!

      But this problem needs to be solved, and urgently ...
  14. Asadullah
    Asadullah 7 October 2015 17: 48 New
    +4
    Such devices have been around for years. At any international exhibition you will see today more than one model of such things. The only question is that the camouflage equipment of a sniper or rex is always tailored for a specific task. Nobody for a hundred% trusts a regular disguise, always adjust to the terrain. Moreover, it’s wild if someone walks on foot against a greenback. I’m sure that this is not the main task of the device, they seem to say that it can be used in such a particular case. Yes, I have enough to fall out in the mud, and the brains of these devices will boil me looking for. The question of professionalism is whether you can complete the task without discovering yourself, with the expectation of different technical devices. Which of course need to be studied.
  15. DMB3000
    DMB3000 7 October 2015 17: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: Vladimirets
    It's a cool thing, but I don’t get it, why is only the Strategic Missile Forces interested in such developments?

    in the photo I see them without a system)))))))))) forgot to hide my legs)))
  16. Alexander_
    Alexander_ 7 October 2015 18: 03 New
    -1
    Irradiate with a different range and see the reflection - what is unique here? Why just now? There was no order?
  17. EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 7 October 2015 18: 08 New
    +2
    there is such a thing as a thermal imager, it copes with this task no worse, even their current in the army is at least from a minimum
    and in the field it’s not a great problem to cover with vegetation, here’s the organic
    1. slavinsk
      slavinsk 7 October 2015 18: 18 New
      -1
      I wanted to write about this.
      We look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rO5rDXENmU
      Do not hide from the thermal imager.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 7 October 2015 19: 14 New
        +1
        smile We hid and hide! On a sly ass, and ...

        When thermal imagers appeared, screens working on the principle of a "black body" immediately appeared, just the opposite. From simple textile solutions to tricky English ones with cooling. Today, the most sophisticated thermal imagers no longer rely only on the infrared radiation of a living body, they correct themselves both in the microwave range and in the activity of electronic devices working at the detection object. So, life complicates, but even the pike in the pond, so that crucian would not doze off ....
  18. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 7 October 2015 18: 15 New
    0
    Each such message is for me, and I think so, not only Balm for the soul.
  19. Mestny
    Mestny 7 October 2015 18: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: figter
    I represent the joy of those who will serve in the Strategic Missile Forces when equipping units with such equipment! They will be happy, being in position, to be constantly irradiated and recognizable for the presence of organic substances in them! After some time, they will be immensely grateful to the military "inventors" and Comrade Konyukhov.


    And what is wrong?
    "for this, we irradiate each part of the terrain in different wavelength ranges and by the reflected optical signal we see, for example, that one of the green objects includes inorganic elements, and the bush is a bush.
    Pay attention to the reflected OPTICAL signal.
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 7 October 2015 20: 20 New
      0
      "for this we irradiate each area in different ranges .. "
      I repeat:
      It must be assumed that people in positions will not be exposed to radiation, because it makes no sense to scan what is inside the position, it is necessary to scan what is outside.
  20. DMB3000
    DMB3000 7 October 2015 18: 55 New
    0
    and only I see the legs?
  21. morozik
    morozik 7 October 2015 19: 10 New
    0
    sits or takes off ??
    1. Miron64
      Miron64 7 October 2015 22: 01 New
      0
      What did they think? laughing
  22. 31rus
    31rus 7 October 2015 19: 39 New
    0
    I think that saboteurs will not stay on the back side; there is a doom, they’ll make a sniper rifle with remote or software, they didn’t choose the wrong path at the academy, but it’s more realistic to “blind” people’s optics and eyes, this is my opinion of the couch general
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 7 October 2015 20: 25 New
      0
      You first try to get on the patrol route PGRK. Although probably it’s better not worth it, otherwise first face down, then transportation in a fixed state, then “the fighter’s hand is tired of writing.”
  23. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 7 October 2015 19: 57 New
    0
    And thermal imagers do not already channel?
  24. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 7 October 2015 20: 06 New
    0
    The movie "Predator" remember. There, this chill also looked in all ranges, thanks to which she avoided many troubles. Someone from our engineers apparently watched this film carefully too :)
  25. novorosdon
    novorosdon 7 October 2015 21: 49 New
    0
    Oh, getting ready for war.
  26. Wolka
    Wolka 8 October 2015 05: 20 New
    0
    very well, if you were quick to join the troops, you need to understand the thing ...
  27. Whowhy
    Whowhy 9 October 2015 11: 03 New
    0
    Somehow (long ago), staggering with the appropriate company to places of power, I met a man photographing various anomalies using a homemade device. The device was simple (the scheme was taken from some magazine): a quartz single-lens (see 10 in diameter), a receiver and a converter (which took the signal from the receiver and converted it into an audio one) and, accordingly, headphones. All this, like a flash, was mounted on a camera with a quartz lens. Everything also worked very simply: you scan the area with a lens and, hearing a characteristic squeak in the headphones, press the button on the camera. The photos were also very interesting (the friend had a bundle with him) - I, as a professional photographer, recorded for myself that this is something real and not defects in the Tasma film ...
    All this, of course, was fiction, but the most interesting thing was that the sound in the headphones corresponded very well (both in volume and tone) to the type of object the lens was pointed at - different types of vegetation, people against the background of different types of vegetation (somewhere around 100 meters), rocky ledge, fresh rusty bulldozer, etc. etc. Comrade even identified among us Ivanоon the lining throat chakra, scanning each one vertically.
    As a friend explained, the device worked in the near ultraviolet (according to him, at night it is even better than during the day - the sun does not interfere). Since I then worked as a forensic scientist, for some reason I immediately thought that this thing could be successfully used in a burglar alarm ...
    I wrote this to what? laughing Yes, to the fact that some “things” have been invented long ago (some work successfully, or have worked, in other areas), and on the modern element base they can acquire fantastic opportunities in general (and very cheaply) - you just need to joke around the knowledge bases ... Even the same journal "Inventor and Rationalizer", probably, can throw a bunch of useful ideas. wink