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The US Air Force banned pilots with low weight to fly the F-35

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The Air Force Command has banned pilots with a body weight up to 61 kg from flying the newest F-35 fighter aircraft, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the resource Defense News (DN).


The US Air Force banned pilots with low weight to fly the F-35


"The ban is related to the fact that the ejection seats of pilots, designed specifically for the F-35 Lightning II by the British company Martin-Baker, revealed a significant malfunction during the tests, which could lead to serious injury or even death of the pilot," writes the publication .

The tests found that when a pilot weighing up to 61 kg sits in this chair, "it changes its position very slightly, which, if ejected, can lead to a neck injury."

According to the resource, "the risk is particularly increased at the time of opening the parachute of the ejection system." In addition, the risk of injury increases if the plane flies at low speed during the ejection.

The "weight" embargo "of the Pentagon will continue until British manufacturers correct the design flaws of the fighter seats. According to the terms of reference, they must ensure the normal ejection of pilots with a body weight from 46,7 to kilogram 111,1 "- notes the publication.

The DN reports that the “F-35 seat is equipped with two rocket launch engines, throwing it along with the pilot as far as possible from the aircraft,” while the parachute can be opened manually or automatically.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 7 October 2015 15: 33 New
    +14
    Correction of design flaws. And why isn’t such news surprising? Maybe it's time to propose the development of a new scam, sorry, an airplane?
    1. Letun
      Letun 7 October 2015 15: 42 New
      +40
      Fine! The body catapults, but the head remains on the plane lol
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 16: 02 New
        +20
        Quote: Letun
        Fine! The body catapults, but the head remains on the plane



        They explained that the body was ejected, but with a broken neck ... Good luck in flying and ejection ...

        PS Usually, pilots don’t really like parachuting, and bailout is a complete paragraph ... Now Amer’s pilots will think: the enemy will not be beaten to death - that’s how they will complete their own catapult ...
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 7 October 2015 16: 14 New
          +26
          And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything. I give an idea for free laughing .
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 7 October 2015 16: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: inkass_98
            two bricks with him and all things. I give the idea for free.

            If there is no objection, I will finalize it - sand in the pockets, but rather a fraction smile In general, this information is from the series "Do not dry wet cats in the microwave" - ​​just in casesmile Has anyone seen dystrophics among pilots? They will not withstand overloads hi
            1. jjj
              jjj 7 October 2015 16: 33 New
              +11
              But 111 kg for a fighter pilot still seems a bit too much. Or due to the massive obesity of Americans, is this becoming the norm?
              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 7 October 2015 19: 25 New
                0
                Kaneshna! And vaapsche - a marriage of catapults, these are the machinations of McDonald's and others like him! It is intended!
                1. severniy
                  severniy 7 October 2015 20: 01 New
                  +5
                  Karoch our DEPs there direct road ...
              2. clidon
                clidon 7 October 2015 20: 28 New
                +2
                Among the American pilots there are many tall, hence the weight (which increases the uniform, helmet, etc.).
                It’s even hard to say who the lower bounds are for - it looks like some kind of Asian women. But TK is TK.
            2. PAM
              PAM 7 October 2015 17: 32 New
              0
              laughing what overload? it has so many restrictions (at the moment) when piloting it is only official, that if all of them are fulfilled then it’s hard to call a fighter aircraft. It seems that the car is so damp and has not passed all the tests and is constantly improving something or, as an option, the little dough was recaptured (for development) and sawn, now it’s still shaking for revision. although it is difficult to imagine pilots with a body weight of 46,7 and a little higher according to the technical task, and 61 is still acceptable.
          2. Altona
            Altona 7 October 2015 16: 36 New
            0
            Quote: inkass_98
            And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything.

            ----------
            Aha, and a corset on the spine ...
          3. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM 7 October 2015 16: 57 New
            +4
            So this ... A revocable company would have to be done. Even AvtoVAZ does this. And for each lightweight pilot - lead weight podzhopniki (sorry for the technical term) at the price of gold.
          4. Kolka82
            Kolka82 7 October 2015 20: 30 New
            0
            Quote: inkass_98
            And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything. I give an idea for free laughing .

            Yes, in my opinion, in the event of a meeting with our falcons, the Americans will impose bricks, so there’s no point in taking
          5. Kolka82
            Kolka82 7 October 2015 20: 30 New
            0
            Quote: inkass_98
            And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything. I give an idea for free laughing .

            Yes, in my opinion, in the event of a meeting with our falcons, the Americans will impose bricks, so there’s no point in taking
          6. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 7 October 2015 20: 35 New
            0
            I imagine the behavior of bricks in the cockpit under negative overloads. laughing
          7. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 7 October 2015 20: 35 New
            0
            I imagine the behavior of bricks in the cockpit under negative overloads. laughing
          8. Alf
            Alf 7 October 2015 22: 15 New
            0
            Quote: inkass_98
            And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything. I give the idea for free.

            Or maybe it's just worth feeding the pilots?
        2. Alex_Rarog
          Alex_Rarog 7 October 2015 18: 39 New
          0
          Well scribe! Yes, nafig would fly on such a bucket, the phantom pancake had more chances to survive than f35.
        3. Corsair
          Corsair 7 October 2015 20: 04 New
          0
          Quote: veksha50
          PS Usually, pilots don’t really like parachuting, and bailout is a complete paragraph ... Now Amer’s pilots will think: the enemy will not be beaten to death - that’s how they will complete their own catapult ...

          laughing So this is a new Amer’s strategy - then you don’t need to save the pilot, a purely imitation for the media and relatives - they searched, tried, the special forces climbed the entire desert, and they won’t even leave the base, sir.
        4. gunter_laux
          gunter_laux 7 October 2015 21: 16 New
          +2
          Flight crews are not jumping enthusiasts, I know for myself. But I will leave the knowledge to myself.
          1. tso1973
            tso1973 8 October 2015 15: 08 New
            0
            It’s for sure you will drag the pilots into the jumps, but there is an exception!
      2. GRAY
        GRAY 7 October 2015 16: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Letun
        Fine! The body catapults, but the head remains on the plane

        Bullshit. In fact, the plane just nose in flight, lifts up. smile
      3. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 7 October 2015 17: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Letun
        Fine! The body catapults, but the head remains on the plane

        Well said .. ... Was it difficult to count? That’s cut the budget, and here we’ll throw a shot at Serdyuk ....
      4. demoniac1666
        demoniac1666 7 October 2015 17: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Letun
        Fine! The body catapults, but the head remains on the plane lol

        Nah, my head falls into panties))))))))))))) lol
      5. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 7 October 2015 20: 33 New
        +2
        With a body weight of less than 61 kg. the whole body is ejected, but the chair lags behind!
    2. Varyag_1973
      Varyag_1973 7 October 2015 15: 43 New
      +9
      The "weighty" embargo "of the Pentagon will continue until the British manufacturers correct the design flaws of the fighter seats. According to the terms of reference, they must ensure the normal bailout of pilots with a body weight of 46,7 to 111,1 kilograms, ”the publication notes.

      Bravo! Keep it up! To finalize the seats required to allocate from 46,7 to 111,1 trillion evergreens ....! For otherwise it will not fly! Not a plane, but moneymaker!
      Either the chassis struts are weak, the engine does not pull, it interferes with the missiles hooking, then the missiles of the wrong system, the helmet is not developed, the catapult is not that ...! We bet gentlemen, what is next for revision ?!
    3. jovanni
      jovanni 7 October 2015 15: 52 New
      +1
      Yes, here they quickly correct, oblige the pilots to eat a couple of additional hamburgers, but with Coca-Cola! And all business! True, then there may be problems with the dimensions in the cabin, but this is another question ...
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      3. lis-ik
        lis-ik 7 October 2015 16: 19 New
        +2
        Then the plane will not take off, it will be necessary to modify the engines. Here you go!
        1. your1970
          your1970 7 October 2015 18: 02 New
          0
          vicious circle, however ....
    4. veteran66
      veteran66 7 October 2015 16: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: oleg-gr
      And why isn’t such news surprising?

      Surprising pilot weight. A normally developed man is already 70 kg of net weight, and if you add high-altitude equipment, then at least 80. Are there all the little ones?
      1. Aleksandr12
        Aleksandr12 7 October 2015 16: 42 New
        0
        Quote: veteran66
        Surprising pilot weight. A normally developed man is already 70 kg of net weight, and if you add high-altitude equipment, then at least 80. Are there all the little ones?

        Most likely with a weight of 60 kg - a woman pilot. There is no other way to explain what kind of dystrophan is in the cockpit. smile
        1. Scraptor
          Scraptor 8 October 2015 14: 18 New
          0
          1: 40-1: 49 they call it good shape, Argentines, on the contrary, joke that English pilots are poorly fed laughing
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD4oiBSXGDM
      2. dauria
        dauria 7 October 2015 16: 45 New
        0
        Surprising pilot weight.


        Well then, take a look at our standards

        Order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation of October 9, 1999 N 455
        "On approval of the Medical Certificate Regulation
        flight crew of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation "

        II. Medical examination of citizens entering
        in military schools, and cadets of military schools
        training facilities

        15. For a preliminary medical examination
        sent citizens having:
        normal color sensation;
        visual acuity not lower than 1,0 in each eye without correction;
        blood pressure not higher than 130/80 and not lower than 105/60 mm
        mercury column;
        body mass index not lower than 19 and body weight not more than 90 kg;
        height not less than 160 cm and not more than 186 cm;
        leg length not less than 88 cm;
        arm length at least 76 cm;
        height in sitting position is not less than 80 cm and not more than 97 cm.


        Note body mass index 19 for height 160 cm and weight 49 kg - by the way, 160 cm appeared in 80, before that they were even smaller wink
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 7 October 2015 17: 29 New
          +2
          You still need to look for these, and so that you can also be healthy ....
          1. roman_pilot
            roman_pilot 7 October 2015 17: 47 New
            0
            at your service. when enrolled 16 years ago, weight 47,5, height 163 (in St. Petersburg AHA).
    5. Tor5
      Tor5 7 October 2015 16: 27 New
      +1
      Interestingly, was this cancellation connected with purely theoretical calculations, or were there already precedents for bailouts?
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    7. Altona
      Altona 7 October 2015 16: 35 New
      0
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Correction of design flaws.

      ---------------------
      What is it? But what about the "most perfect airplane in the world"? Here it is necessary to fly, but the pilot’s overall dimensions are underestimated ... laughing
    8. Juborg
      Juborg 7 October 2015 16: 58 New
      +4
      Something like that, too unfinished gadget. Shines and shows pictures, but does not ring and beats with current.
      1. Rader
        Rader 7 October 2015 20: 22 New
        0
        PS Usually, pilots don’t really like parachuting, and bailout is a complete paragraph ... Now Amer’s pilots will think: the enemy will not be beaten to death - that’s how they will complete their own catapult ...

        Ordinary pilots "don’t like" them, but in America there are very few of them ... More and more "exceptional" ... For example, McCain: he destroyed 4 planes during his career as a pilot, ... all his ... belay How did he not get the nickname "Skydiver"? ... wink
        1. tso1973
          tso1973 8 October 2015 15: 13 New
          0
          The Germans had an ass during World War II who received the nickname skydiver.
  2. Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 7 October 2015 15: 34 New
    +20
    Now the Americans at McDonald’s pilots will recruit .... gygy!
    In vain asses in fast foods fattened ....
    1. figwam
      figwam 7 October 2015 15: 43 New
      +10
      The Air Force command forbade pilots weighing up to 61 kg to fly on the latest F-35 fighters,

      ABOUT! this is discrimination by weight.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 7 October 2015 16: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: Good_Taxist
      Now the Americans at McDonald’s pilots will recruit .... gygy!

      This is not gee-gee, they have it strictly. And there are no generals fat-bellied like some smile
      1. bmv04636
        bmv04636 7 October 2015 21: 35 New
        +2
        add this photo here for completeness
        1. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 8 October 2015 06: 32 New
          0
          add this photo here for completeness

          completeness ... Comedian))))
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 8 October 2015 07: 29 New
          0
          Quote: bmv04636
          add this photo here for completeness

          This is not a lecturer, in my opinion it is not even visible to the naked eye. Where did this miracle come from is not clear, maybe a joke? In recent years, the number of US troops laid off due to being overweight has increased more than tenfold. According to the military, even people with a sporty physique cannot go through a rigorous selection process. The Pentagon insists that overweight people almost always fail in sports standards, which means they are not ready for hostilities.
          A test that determines compliance with physical fitness standards, the US military passes twice a year. If this indicator does not correspond to the norm, the soldier will not be able to advance in the service. If he cannot pass the test three times in a row, he may be fired. hi
  3. beer-youk
    beer-youk 7 October 2015 15: 34 New
    +9
    Draft blowing? Do not open the window!
  4. gas113
    gas113 7 October 2015 15: 36 New
    +2
    And throw a little ballast ...
  5. Barboskin
    Barboskin 7 October 2015 15: 36 New
    +6
    And they said the fattest nation on earth. laughing
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    2. 740
      740 7 October 2015 15: 45 New
      +8
      Quote: Barboskin
      And they said the fattest nation on earth. laughing

      They said it right. That’s the kind of build that an American pilot should be. Just right, not thin and not fat.
      1. figwam
        figwam 7 October 2015 16: 21 New
        +27
        Test pilot bailout F-35
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  6. Same lech
    Same lech 7 October 2015 15: 37 New
    +3
    The tests found that when a pilot weighing up to 61 kg sits in this chair, "it changes its position very slightly, which, if ejected, can lead to a neck injury."


    I believe that female pilots will not be able to fly on the F-35 ....

    The US Air Force suffered losses before the hostilities.
  7. sinukvl
    sinukvl 7 October 2015 15: 42 New
    +8
    They were redesigned, invented.

    And not a lot of humor:

    01.04.2002, 4: 30. Saudi Arabia. US Air Force Base.

    Lieutenant John Falcon for the last time waved his hand to his comrades and climbed into the cockpit. A sense of pride filled him. He would have been entrusted with such an honor! He learned about this from General Break, who said:
    “You are entrusted with a great honor, Lieutenant.” You will complete your first sortie on the newest top-secret F-22M aircraft.
    - “M” means “modified”? - specified Folkon.
    “M means Microsoft,” the general replied. - The plane is completely refitted by these guys. They assure that now anyone can carry out combat missions. But for the first time, we chose you as one of our best pilots. You will have to destroy the Iraqi nuclear center.
    “You can send condolences to Saddam now, sir,” Folcon answered.
    The lieutenant habitually snapped the belts and only then noticed that the dashboard was noticeably different from the standard. There were fewer devices, but a two-button mouse, for some reason a metal one, rested in the vacant place. Falcon shrugged and turned on the general power. On the transparent frontal screen, against the background of the sky with rare clouds opening from the cockpit, the inscription appeared: "Microsoft Winwars 2002". Then the engines themselves started to work, and the flaps lowered into the take-off position.
    - Congratulations on your purchase of Winwars 2002! - said the screen. - Now the war will become much more convenient, your killability will decrease, and the hit rate of targets will increase! Tip of the day: release the landing gear before landing.
    “Eagle-1, take-off is allowed,” came the headset.
    “And I haven’t requested yet,” Folcon was surprised.
    “And you don't need to.” Plug "n" Play, - explained ground control.
    The plane, rapidly gaining speed, rushed along the strip and was soon in the air.
    “Now Winwars 2002 will install your ammunition for the selected target,” the system said. - Selected target: Iraqi nuclear center.
    For the sake of interest Folkon clicked on the “edit” button and saw a long list, which, among other objects around the world, featured the White House and the base with which it had just flown out. Falcon hurriedly clicked “cancel.”
    - Select the type of installation:
    - Minimum - only bombs will be dropped on the object,
    - Normal - bombs and missiles will be dropped on the object,
    - Full - the entire aircraft will be dropped onto the object.
    By default, the system offered the second option, and Folkon, glancing apprehensively at the third, decided not to argue with her.
    - Now the performance testing of your machine will be conducted. Close your eyes to avoid damage when changing modes.
    Engines roared in the afterburner, and Folkon's eyes really almost jumped out of their sockets from a monstrous overload. The real hell began: the plane was thrown in all directions, it was torn off in steep peaks and laid unthinkable turns ... Finally, the lieutenant regained consciousness; the darkness before his eyes vanished, and he saw the mouse dangling all over the cabin again fell into place.
    “You use a Lockheed F-22 with two Pratt-Whitney engines,” the system said calmly. - Maximum speed of 1451 miles per hour. Tip of the day: do not increase the turbine clock speed above the value specified by the manufacturer. Estimated installation time is 0:34:16.
    1. sinukvl
      sinukvl 7 October 2015 15: 47 New
      +4
      Same day, 4: 52. The sky over Iraq.

      At the bottom of the screen, a blue bar with percentages slowly crawled. The system, meanwhile, advertised Winwars for tanks, submarines and marines, and also promised everyone who purchased the version for aircraft a free Kamikaze 1.01 applet. The change of pictures had a soporific effect on Folcon; the buzzer sound brought him out of his half-drowsy state. A green dot glowed on the radar.
      - A new device was discovered: the enemy’s plane! - joyfully informed the system.
      Folkon already wanted to perform a standard combat turn, but then he noticed the "Delete" button and clicked on it with the mouse.
      “Are you sure you want to remove the enemy’s plane?” - the system suspiciously inquired.
      - Still would! - The Falcon clicked “Yes,” and the Iraqi fighter disappeared from the radar. - So fast? - the lieutenant was surprised. - Well, Microsoft gives!
      He even respectfully began to study the Winwars advertisement for disabled pilots that appeared on the screen, but he was distracted from this activity by a rocket flying over the cockpit itself. Folkon turned in disbelief and saw an Iraqi interceptor.
      “Well, your mother ...” Falcon exclaimed, and only then he saw that the painted tail of an airplane protruded from the inconspicuous RecycleBin icon in the corner of the screen. The lieutenant violently clicked on the icon and clicked "Clear."
      - Are you sure you want to physically remove the enemy’s aircraft? Its restoration will be impossible, the system warned.
      - YES! snapped Folcon, hammering a mouse.
      Sidewinder fell from under the wing and, leaving a white fluffy footprint, rushed towards the interceptor. An explosion flashed, and the burning debris of the enemy machine flew to the ground. However, it was too early to calm down. A flashing sound warned of a new danger.
      - A new device was discovered: a ground-to-air missile! - Told the system and fell into thought.
      In vain did the Falcon pound on the mouse, watching a sinister dot creep toward the center of the radar. Finally, the system came out of a stupor:
      - I can not find a driver for this device. Insert the driver disk and click "OK."
      With curses Falcon clicked "Search."
      “The closest match: hand grenades,” his system rejoiced. - Apply?
      Folkon pulled the handle aside, retreating into a missile defense. Too late. The plane shuddered from the explosion. With difficulty removing the damaged car from the peak, the pilot clicked on the "System" button. Under the line “Left wing” they glowed with yellow triangles with exclamation marks “Aileron” and “Flap”, but otherwise he got off cheaply. The blue bar, which continued to crawl below, already showed 82%, and he still had chances to complete the task.
      The radar showed two more enemy aircraft, but they got up behind and Folkon was not particularly bothered. He knew that this Iraqi junk just did not catch up with his super-fast F-22. However, the planes were approaching. Falcon looked at the speedometer in bewilderment and realized that his speed was rapidly dropping.
      - What the hell?! - exclaimed the lieutenant. “The engines are in order, and there is plenty of fuel!”
      The screen, meanwhile, began fiercely blinking with an image of an hourglass. The hands of the instruments moved in short jerks, froze for a long time in one position.
      “Not enough free memory,” the system came to an explanation. - Unload unnecessary tasks.
      1. sinukvl
        sinukvl 7 October 2015 15: 48 New
        0
        Folkon called up a list of tasks, trying to understand what names like winppl or v666apl mean and which ones are superfluous. Meanwhile, the engines were almost silent, the speed dropped to critical: a little more and the plane would crash down. Stunned by such tactics of aerial combat, the Iraqis whizzed past, one on the left, the other on the right, and, without leaving the stupor, collided in front of Folkon's nose.
        The lieutenant, meanwhile, looked for the line “Tracking the enemy” in the list, next to which in brackets it read: “[Doesn't answer],” and clicked “OK.” The radar screen went blank, but the plane began to pick up speed again. The blue bar already showed 99% ... now, finally, 100%.
        Folkon looked at the earth in bewilderment: the desert below did not at all resemble the satellite photographs of the nuclear center he studied. It seems that the system also understood this, because after the number 100% appeared 101 ... then 102 ... A blue appeared on the screen 106, and the inscription appeared: "Error 000000e caused by the VXD0000 (0) module from the VXD0000 (0) module A normal continuation of the flight is possible. You can press Eject to eject, or any other key to continue. Attention: during ejection you will lose all unsaved aircraft.
        The Folkon has not yet planned to eject, especially since the nuclear center has finally appeared ahead. Realizing that Microsoft should no longer rely on Microsoft, the lieutenant prepared to carry out the bombing manually. He drove the plane down, waiting for the mark of the guidance system to overlap with the target. There is! Falcon pressed a button. Something grated and a new message popped up: "The bomb bomb has performed an invalid operation and will be closed." With a curse, Falcon pulled the handle toward himself to steer the car up again. But the plane continued to decline rapidly.
        The lieutenant frantically fumbled on the menus, looking for the cause. “The joystick is not defined,” he read at last. Realizing that only a restart can restore the system to working condition, Falcon turned off and on the power of the remote control.
        “The previous flight was completed incorrectly,” the system told him. - Press any key to start checking the integrity of the aircraft.
        1. sinukvl
          sinukvl 7 October 2015 15: 48 New
          +17
          - To hell! snapped Folcon, clicking "Cancel."
          Winwars 2002 splash screen has appeared; the system slowly started to boot. Hundreds of meters remained to the ground.
          “The system is booted in safe mode,” the screen finally told. - In this mode, the functions of flight and use of weapons are disabled, you can only ride on the airfield.
          Realizing that he wouldn’t have time to do anything else, Folkon beat the Eject, expecting that the cockpit cap would be shot now, and then a powerful blow from below would throw it into the air. But instead, another question appeared on the screen:
          “Are you sure you really want to eject?”
          - YES !!! "- Falcon yelled heartbrokenly, looking at the land rushing towards him.
          “Wait, preparations are underway for bailouts,” the system calmly informed and plunged into thought ...

          2.04.2002, 13: 20. Baghdad. Palace of Saddam Hussein.

          “Thus,” the general cheerfully reported, “thanks to the selfless efforts of our pilots, who entered into an unequal battle with the American aggressor, they managed to defend the safety of the nuclear center and the latest secret enemy aircraft was destroyed ...
          - Yes? - the dictator’s heavy gaze rested on the speaker’s face, and he hastily lowered his gaze. - In fact, unequal. Three are against one, and their happiness is that they did not survive, since he still flew to the center. If the center has saved, then only the mercy of Allah.
          The general was covered in cold sweat. He understood that now no mercy of Allah would save him.
          “You have 30 seconds to make excuses,” Saddam said lazily.
          - Here! - exclaimed the general, taking out a shiny CD from a sealed container. “They found it among the wreckage of an airplane.” The pinnacle of American computer technology! The latest military equipment control programs!
          “Well, you have a little chance,” the dictator leaned back in his chair. - In three weeks this should be installed on all combat vehicles of our army.
          “It will be done, Mr. President!” - exclaimed the general ...
          After three weeks and one day, Iraq surrendered unconditionally.
  8. AlexSam
    AlexSam 7 October 2015 15: 42 New
    +1
    You can not change diapers during the week before flights ... but I have no doubt that diapers will now become an integral part of NATO and American flight suits :)
  9. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 7 October 2015 15: 43 New
    +4
    The father told the Vietnamese before being allowed to fly they were fattened. Will they also be force-fed?
    1. your1970
      your1970 7 October 2015 18: 11 New
      +1
      there a slightly different situation was - the basis of Vietnam's food - rice did not allow to withstand overloads and maneuver, therefore, they began to urgently feed meat
  10. kolkulon
    kolkulon 7 October 2015 15: 43 New
    +2
    Yes, in general, p ... some kind. So much dough swelled. And the ejection system can not be brought to mind? !!!
  11. Stiletto
    Stiletto 7 October 2015 15: 44 New
    +3
    It would be necessary to pilot there and castrate to offer. So that, not even an hour, do not catch than when bailout ...
  12. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 7 October 2015 15: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Good_Taxist
    Now the Americans at McDonald’s pilots will recruit .... gygy!
    In vain asses in fast foods fattened ....


    And in the police - the ready-made Plavers. And at first I thought the f-35 starts a storm if the pilot is dead. Or a heavy helmet ...
  13. pv1005
    pv1005 7 October 2015 15: 48 New
    0
    Hedgehogs are strong but light. laughing
  14. Orlenok ILLI4A
    Orlenok ILLI4A 7 October 2015 15: 48 New
    +1
    Each amer pilot a bucket of feed, let them eat fat :)
  15. 79807420129
    79807420129 7 October 2015 15: 50 New
    +8
    The day before the departure of the pilots, force-feed and prevent them from going to the toilet.
  16. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 7 October 2015 15: 53 New
    0
    The "weighty" embargo "of the Pentagon will continue until the British manufacturers correct the design flaws of the fighter seats.
    What is "import substitution" for Americans is unknown. And it’s like that!
  17. Maksus
    Maksus 7 October 2015 15: 54 New
    0
    How many problems does one aircraft have. Can pilots with blue eyes fly on it? Or left-handed people?
  18. wk
    wk 7 October 2015 15: 55 New
    -2
    there is nothing surprising .... f 35 a machine of increased maneuverability, certain physical parameters are needed to overcome the overloads normally ..... probably this is also foreseen in our Air Force or VKS .... we got this shkolota .... toilet humor! learn physics first ....!
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 7 October 2015 16: 07 New
      +3
      Yes, it was already similar, only in Korea, when ours trained local pilots to fly.
      As aerobatics begin to twist, so they are chopped off unconscious. They began to sort it out - and the locals only eat rice, and even half a hand, because of this there was not enough strength to endure overloads.
      They began to forcefully feed meat and make sure everyone ate from the tray - after three weeks they ceased to lose consciousness. Ate, damn it.
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 8 October 2015 06: 47 New
      +1
      f 35 car of increased maneuverability

      ahahahaha, laughed, oh give a laugh, oh comedian, ahahahahaha ...
  19. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 7 October 2015 15: 56 New
    0
    When I started reading I thought that the helmet is heavy in weight (and not only in cost) and there is no chair lol
  20. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 7 October 2015 16: 03 New
    +3
    Everything is more wonderful and wonderful. I wonder how they identified this malfunction. Katapulnuli someone less than 60 kg and he broke his neck?
    Guys, can you imagine a fighter pilot weighing less than 60 kg? Me not. In my opinion, these are eliminated even during testing in a centrifuge.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 7 October 2015 16: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Everything is more wonderful and wonderful. I wonder how they identified this malfunction. Katapulnuli someone less than 60 kg and he broke his neck?
      Guys, can you imagine a fighter pilot weighing less than 60 kg? Me not. In my opinion, these are eliminated even during testing in a centrifuge.

      They have plenty. When I found out that they have test pilots with glasses oh ... l. As they showed one, he was testing a new version of Fu 18 nerdy nerd, small, feeble, wearing glasses, but a test pilot. Now the courts will be overwhelmed with lawsuits, discrimination against women pilots. You can’t make cakes eat, it turns out to be violent.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 7 October 2015 16: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: Kil 31
        They have plenty. When I found out that they have test pilots with glasses oh ... l.

        May 17, 1945 S.N. Anokhin performed control tests of the Yak-3 fighter for strength. The destruction of the aircraft was not provided, but was not excluded. It was necessary to do 12 modes with overloads. In the third mode, Sergei Nikolaevich did not turn on the recorder. It turned out that you have to perform 13 modes. The number '13' lived up to its bad reputation: in the fifth mode, the wing broke off. It took the pilot tremendous effort and composure to drop the flashlight and parachute out of the plane randomly falling to the ground. S.N. Anokhin was seriously wounded and lost his left eye.
        Two months later, after leaving the hospital, the pilot faced a choice of his future life path. The solution is clear: just fly! And the long months of intense training begin. S.N. Anokhin in every way develops deep vision. And these efforts were not in vain. Already in December 1945, he returned to flight test work at the Flight Research Institute and immediately connected to the most complex and critical tests. Only in August 1962 S.N. Anokhin was written off for health reasons from flight test work.
        1. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 8 October 2015 06: 49 New
          +1
          Steeper than such people are only mountains, only the sky is wider.
  21. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 7 October 2015 16: 09 New
    0
    The tests found that when a pilot weighing up to 61 kg sits in this chair, "it changes its position very slightly, which, if ejected, can lead to a neck injury."

    I wonder how this was found out. Such a flaw in theory pops up only in practice.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 October 2015 07: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir 1964

      I wonder how this was found out. Such a flaw in theory pops up only in practice.

      To test the ejection seat of the US16E pilot, we used a special railway trolley with jet engines (ours are tested the same way), which almost exactly repeats the nose of the F-35. During the bailout, according to Martin-Baker, about 900 thousand measurements per second were made, which made it possible to find out details about each stage of separation and flight of the pilot's seat.
      Initially, the lower weight limit of normal bailout was 58,1 kg. (Now recommended 61 kg.) Upper - up to 130,6 kilograms. hi
      I wonder what are the standards for our K-36?
  22. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 7 October 2015 16: 10 New
    0
    In the way ...
  23. Yarik
    Yarik 7 October 2015 16: 18 New
    +1
    Well would take dumbbells? Tape them to the chair .... what
  24. roskot
    roskot 7 October 2015 16: 19 New
    0
    In damn it, you also need to select pilots by weight.
    And so it all began, 60 countries, 60 countries.
  25. awersa
    awersa 7 October 2015 16: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: zadorin1974
    The father told the Vietnamese before being allowed to fly they were fattened. Will they also be force-fed?

    yeah, when they make foie gras from a goose liver, they also force it down their throats before they kill, see the Americans seriously and often get ready to eject - they didn’t popper the plane, and somehow this news coincided with the flights of our aviation in Syria)))))
  26. Ashirbakiev N.B.
    Ashirbakiev N.B. 7 October 2015 16: 33 New
    -2
    Is that coming out? Will the F35 be a quick stroller?
  27. IAlex
    IAlex 7 October 2015 16: 33 New
    0
    What's the problem? The Englishman designed everything correctly, because the pentagon itself increases the size of hatches for equipment due to the increased mass of the American military, which already do not fit into the old standards of the 80s ...
  28. hunt
    hunt 7 October 2015 16: 37 New
    0
    Quote: inkass_98
    And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything. I give an idea for free laughing .

    Bricks themselves put aside :)
  29. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 October 2015 16: 38 New
    +1
    and these people criticize corruption around the world !!!!!!!!!!
  30. A-Sim
    A-Sim 7 October 2015 17: 10 New
    0
    And to cram lead into the pockets of Nizya ???
  31. Averias
    Averias 7 October 2015 17: 16 New
    0
    It is logical to assume that the next step will be: Development of DARPA (yes, yes, only by them and no one else) of a pre-flight special diet to weight the pilot during the flight.
  32. Migor102
    Migor102 7 October 2015 17: 28 New
    0
    that ugihza reach 61 kg, children chtol?
  33. brick
    brick 7 October 2015 17: 31 New
    +1
    Another advertisement for McDonald's, eat more hamburgers, bailouts will be more successful))))
  34. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 7 October 2015 17: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: inkass_98
    And the problem is solved in an elementary way (as in an elevator with a weight sensor) - two bricks with you and everything. I give an idea for free laughing .

    When you are knocked down, the bricks appear themselves.
  35. wild ensign
    wild ensign 7 October 2015 18: 18 New
    +4
    And here are the first candidates!
  36. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 7 October 2015 18: 24 New
    0
    Well, either modify the system, or - pilots for "fattening"! What will be more profitable?
  37. Stoler
    Stoler 7 October 2015 19: 05 New
    0
    “DN reports that“ the F-35 seat is equipped with two rocket launch engines that eject it with the pilot as far as possible from the aircraft, ”while the parachute can be opened manually or automatically.” - Manual after at low altitude good GOOD FELLOWS !!!!!
  38. VP
    VP 7 October 2015 19: 10 New
    0
    Quote: veksha50
    Typically, pilots really do not like parachuting, and bailout is a complete paragraph ..

    A friend who worked at the aircraft factory in Komsomolsk under the Union said that they had such abortions for women. The bailout guaranteed an early miscarriage.
    True access to the stand was very difficult. But they made their way.
  39. Darkoff
    Darkoff 7 October 2015 19: 46 New
    0
    Or maybe just people with body weight less than 61 kg. not enough physical strength to cope with the management of this gravitsapa?
  40. ssn18
    ssn18 7 October 2015 19: 58 New
    -1
    And is this their coolest plane? Ugh, on these looters. Something recently, more and more often remembered by MN Zadornov.
  41. DATO8791
    DATO8791 7 October 2015 20: 00 New
    -1
    I feel that American pilots need to send out our “totalitarian” cookies (by analogy with the Nulland’s “dermocratic cookies” in Ukraine). Perhaps, we will increase the mass and combat readiness of the pilots of the American Air Force!
  42. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 7 October 2015 20: 49 New
    +1
    It reminds the story of a special space writing pen and a simple pencil in space.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 October 2015 10: 02 New
      0
      Quote: sharp-lad
      It reminds the story of a special space writing pen and a simple pencil in space.

      Until the second half of the 60s of the last century, Soviet cosmonauts, conducting various studies during a space flight, made notes on their results with ordinary pencils. Their American counterparts are mechanical pencils or felt-tip pens. They say that in order to radically change the situation and invent a special pen that is guaranteed to work in zero gravity, the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) specialists had to spend 200 thousand research man hours and five million dollars over six years . But they only say that. In fact, everything was a little different. Although, as you know, smoke without fire happens. For the invention of such a special pen, which can write in the temperature range from minus 45 to plus 200 degrees Celsius, “upside down” and even in zero gravity, serious money was spent. Not five million, of course, but about a million dollars had to be invested in this so-called “space pen”. True, it was not NASA who invested, but the American inventor Paul Fisher and his company “Fisher Space Pen Company”, which in 1968 proposed to the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration a finished product. And the Office only tested it and, gasping with delight, did not just recommend it, but accepted it for widespread use. And looking at the Americans, and our astronauts after some time, too, began to take Paul Fisher’s pen with them into space. What is her secret? And not even one. And as many as four. The first one. Thixotropic fluid is an ink whose viscosity under constant environmental conditions decreases with time. In other words, solid ink is liquefied as soon as the pen is used for its intended purpose and they begin to write with it. The second one. A special cartridge in which ink is under pressure. The pressure, in turn, is provided by compressed nitrogen, pumped into the same container and separated by a sliding float from the ink. The third. The writing pen of Paul Fisher’s pen is made of tungsten carbide, one of the most durable ceramic materials whose hardness is comparable to diamond. Fourth. The ball is installed in the tip of the writing rod with a high degree of accuracy. Or, as techies say, precision. The high degree of accuracy of installation and fitting of the ball eliminates any possibility of leakage of ink. In fact, the pen used today by astronauts around the world is similar to a ballpoint pen created in 1938 by the brothers Laszlo and György Biro, but with their own, very interesting features.
      http://shkolazhizni.ru/archive/0/n-40638/
  43. Chak
    Chak 7 October 2015 21: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: inkass_98
    two bricks with him and all things. I give the idea for free.

    If there is no objection, I will finalize it - sand in the pockets, but rather a fraction smile In general, this information is from the series "Do not dry wet cats in the microwave" - ​​just in casesmile Has anyone seen dystrophics among pilots? They will not withstand overloads hi


    Probably the British read the terms of reference incorrectly. It was necessary to make a catapult, and they made a catopult for the British ... blue
  44. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 October 2015 02: 30 New
    0
    a significant malfunction was discovered that could lead to serious injury or even death to the pilot

    And they would be friends with Russia and there would be no problems. Our ejection seats are superior to American ones.
  45. Wolka
    Wolka 8 October 2015 05: 18 New
    +1
    here it’s “not all the gold that glitters”, but “happens to be a bitch to an old woman”, however, our K-36 catapult seats uniquely steer ...
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 8 October 2015 05: 21 New
      0
      You can also add "small bug and smelly." They will pick up skunks, they are harder.
  46. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 8 October 2015 17: 54 New
    0
    Well, I think pilots for normal weight will have to go to the McDonald’s for the most part. But will they get into the cockpit then that’s the question! laughing laughing
  47. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 8 October 2015 17: 57 New
    0
    I think for normal weight the flyers will have to go to the McDolds more often. But will they then take them to the cayuin ?? and if they fit in, will the plane take off ?? request laughing