Difficulties of friendship with Russia

Ankara has blamed twice in recent days Aviation Russia in violation of Turkish airspace. The Russian Ministry of Defense in response spoke of bad weather. On October 5, a meeting of the NATO Council took place. It adopted a joint statement in which Russia's behavior received an ominous characterization of "irresponsible." R. T. Erdogan made it clear to Moscow that her friendship with Ankara is being tested: "... if Russia loses a friend like Turkey ..."




On October 3, the Turkish Foreign Ministry reported that Turkish fighters intercepted a Russian military aircraft that invaded Turkish airspace and forced it to return to Syria airspace.

Indeed, two F-16 fighters of the Turkish Air Force were sent to intercept. The Ministry of Defense commented on this message. At a briefing on 5 in October, the official representative of the department, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, spoke about the “approach”.

“On Saturday, October 3, after completing a planned combat flight, while performing a maneuver over mountain-wooded terrain to return to the Khmeimim airfield, the Russian military aircraft Su-30 made a short-term, several seconds, entry into Turkish airspace. After checking and analyzing the data of objective control, the command of the Aviation Group of the Air and Space Forces of Russia in Syria took the necessary measures to prevent such incidents in the future, ”the television channel quotes him "Star".

According to Konashenkov, on October 10, the Ministry of Defense sent explanations to the Turkish side.

“The Hmeimim airbase,” the military official added, “is located approximately 30 km from the Syrian-Turkish border. Under certain climatic conditions, the approach to the airfield is from the north. Therefore, this incident is a consequence of adverse weather conditions in the area. One should not look for any conspirological reasons. ”

The Turkish authorities, however, received a harsh statement.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan at a joint press conference with Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel in Brussels hinted at the possible loss of friendship between Turkey and Russia. “The attack on Turkey is regarded as an attack on NATO,” his words cite. "Vesti". - Our good relations with Russia are well known. But if Russia loses a friend like Turkey, with which it cooperates on such a large number of issues, it will lose a lot and should know about it. ”

We also add that the Russian ambassador to Turkey was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry and demanded an explanation from him about the “invasion” of the Russian military aircraft into the Turkish airspace.

Most importantly, an immediate response from NATO followed.

"Violation of the airspace of Turkey by the Russian military aircraft is unacceptable," Alliance Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg quotes. IA "REGNUM". - I am convening a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to discuss the situation. I urge Russia to fully comply with the airspace of NATO and avoid escalating tensions with the alliance. I urge Russia to take the necessary measures to coordinate its efforts with the efforts of the international community in the fight against ISIL. ”

October 6 "BBC" there was a message about the second incident and about the second call of the Russian ambassador to Turkey for explanations.

“The Turkish authorities,” the television and radio company informs, “re-called the Russian ambassador for explanations about the second violation of the country's airspace two days after another Russian combat aircraft, according to Ankara, invaded Turkish airspace.”

The Turkish Foreign Ministry announced that another Russian combat aircraft flew over Turkish territory last Sunday.

BBC also reports that US Secretary of State John Kerry expressed concern about the flights of Russian aircraft in Turkish airspace. According to him, the Russian fighter could be shot down by Turkish aircraft.

Mr. Kerry, add from yourself, in your repertoire. Gives hints to everyone. He recently сказалthat “Russia can become the next target of the ISIL militants” and specified: “If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky. ”

And now the US Secretary of State explained to the Turks what to do with the Russian aircraft.

Late evening on October 6 RBC A note was published by Olga Nadykto, entitled "Turkey offered Russia a mechanism for preventing military incidents."

The material provides information on the appeal of the Turkish Ministry of Defense to Russian colleagues with a proposal to establish a joint group to prevent possible incidents. This was told by the representative of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Igor Konashenkov.

According to the official, the Turkish proposal was made during a meeting of the Russian military attache at the embassy in Istanbul with representatives of the Turkish Defense Ministry in October 6 in the afternoon. As the representative of the Russian Defense Ministry clarified, the Turkish military “suggested working through the creation of a joint working group of the Russian and Turkish defense ministries to coordinate actions and prevent possible incidents related to the performance of combat tasks by the Russian air group to destroy the Islamic State group in Syria.”

In addition, RBC cites the comment of Russia's permanent representative to NATO, Alexander Grushko. He told 6 of October that the incident with the violation of the airspace in Turkey was used to include the North Atlantic Alliance in a media campaign that distorts the objectives of the Russian Federation in Syria.

NATO, in turn, does not believe Russia.

Moscow did not provide the North Atlantic Alliance with “no real explanation” of the causes of the violation of Turkish airspace, Jens Stoltenberg told the press. According to him, the incidents in the Turkish skies of Turkey "do not look like an accident."

“For us, this does not look like an accident. This is a serious violation of the airspace, and in fact there were two violations at the weekend, - quotes him "BBC". “This adds to the fact that it does not look like an accident, that the breach lasted for a long time compared to previous airspace violations that we have seen elsewhere in Europe, and therefore we take it very seriously.” (Saying such a confused speech, the secretary general was apparently worried. - Appro. "IN".)

Thus, the Syrian front became another hotbed of cold confrontation between the West and Russia. In addition, an extremely unpleasant factor in the "loss of friendship" of Turkey appears. Ankara used the opportunity turned up for harsh statements against Moscow, and did so with reference to NATO.

The Syrian question has long been a stumbling block in the political relations between Moscow and Ankara, and no changes in this matter are foreseen. Recall Mr. Erdogan in 2013 year called Syrian President Assad "butcher" and "murderer" and said that he (Assad) is waiting for the wrath of God.

Probably, the Turkish god is angry now on the Russians, because they are fighting on the side of Assad.

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  1. slizhov 8 October 2015 06: 06 New
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    It’s time for Erdogan to understand that the United States can surrender it at any time along with the ports, as the EU, led by Frau, is surrendering.
    The weaker the country, the stronger the Pentagon.
    Here are just a large and predatory shark itself, there is always a wise fisherman!
    1. Kostyar 8 October 2015 06: 19 New
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      It’s time for Erdogan to understand that the USA can surrender him at any moment

      Yes, he will never understand nichrome! This is the usual political pGostitutka !!!
      Like many other jackals who imagined themselves to be noble greyhounds ...
      1. meriem1 8 October 2015 06: 57 New
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        Quote: Bone
        It’s time for Erdogan to understand that the USA can surrender him at any moment

        Yes, he will never understand nichrome! This is the usual political pGostitutka !!!
        Like many other jackals who imagined themselves to be noble greyhounds ...



        And you have to listen, ears tightened. Chinese deck on the way.
        http://warfiles.ru/show-96975-palubnaya-aviaciya-kitaya-prisoedinyaetsya-k-rossi
        yskim-vozdushnym-udaram-v-sirii.html
        1. hedgehog in the fog 8 October 2015 09: 50 New
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          It seems to me that the United States plays a secondary role here, Turkey has been a strong empire for centuries, everyone except Russia was afraid of it, you can’t hide genes, and you don’t hide any tolerance and European values. Turkish recollections of resentment, for the loss of former greatness.
      2. EGOrkka 8 October 2015 07: 02 New
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        Kostyar
        Yes, he will never understand nichrome!


        .... yes they already understood everything .... the Kurdish question ..... this is not with boots on asphalt ..... smile
        1. Karabanov 8 October 2015 19: 13 New
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          That is, after all, f.o.shniki ... Russia is fighting Islamic fanatics for the benefit of all mankind, and these insignificants are wreaking havoc because of a few seconds of an accidental flight into their territory ... Here are the tricks ...
      3. Buffalo 8 October 2015 09: 58 New
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        Demarch of the Turkish President
        Ankara is looking for an excuse for a quarrel with Moscow
        http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/133377/?rss=1
      4. Buffalo 8 October 2015 15: 13 New
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        That's right.
        Erdogan never stopped spoiling Russia. Making big profits from cooperation with Russia, in trade, construction and tourism, he did not stop financing terrorists in Chechnya, in the Crimea, in the Volga region, and even in the north.
        We let the pig at the table. But, everything has its time ...
      5. SanSuh 8 October 2015 16: 54 New
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        Evil mom frostbite))). And I won’t go to Turkey anymore! This is my answer to Erdogan. And if all Russia says so, what will he do? I propose to join the baikot of the Turkish tourism industry
      6. Kirito 8 October 2015 23: 07 New
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        Your truth good . After all, friendship is not traded, and not sold.
        There is a good saying about such people in Russia: "Such friends, for x ... and to the museum." angry
      7. Absurdidat 9 October 2015 16: 07 New
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        Erdogan is a political prostitute ??? Well, you generally don’t know then ...
    2. Nik_One 8 October 2015 06: 20 New
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      Erdogan has his own interests in Syria there, so the Turks in this matter sing in unison with the White House.
      1. Aleks28 8 October 2015 06: 33 New
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        Quote: Nik_One
        Erdogan has his own interests in Syria there, so the Turks in this matter sing in unison with the White House.

        Yes, they also promised a visa-free regime with Europe, so Erdogan sang. Maybe they promised a cheo ... lol
        1. inkass_98 8 October 2015 06: 56 New
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          still cheo promised.

          They have been promised the EU for 20 years, they are taken for the same carrot that now Ruin.
          But they, wretched ones, still won’t understand that such a crowd is completely unnecessary for Europeans, and even less so for representative bodies such as the European Parliament.
          It seems that Erdogan was slowly starting to reach, but then suddenly the elections were ripe, the head was occupied by another.
          It would be nice for Erdogan to recall the very beginning of the 20's, Ataturk, how Soviet Russia supplied arms to the Turkish Republic to fight Greek aggression ... After all, Turkey would have bent without us, Kemal Pasha was not at all, knew what he was doing.
          1. Kent0001 8 October 2015 12: 34 New
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            Frau already showed them a cookie again - no EU Turkey is shining. So they are angry.
        2. Nik_One 8 October 2015 06: 57 New
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          Not for that. The Turks themselves are fighting in Syria through the militants they are armed, and at the same time they are buying oil from ISIS. A Russian intervention spoiled them all plans))
          With Russia, the navel will fight. So, Erdogan pasha has to shout loudly in the general NATO choir "Guard! Everything is gone ..." wink
        3. hrych 8 October 2015 07: 00 New
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          He correctly sang it all, such flies for opening the enemy’s air defense, where radars were recorded by electronic warfare means, reaction times, etc. Russia is waging a serious war, the consequences are unpredictable, and here it is necessary to clarify the location of Turkish radars and airfields because if that ... But Rajep understood everything and let's hide under NATO, only one thing I didn’t understand was that the Turks were taken to NATO for “meat”, and not to be second-rate citizens ... (oh yes, not even varieties, they didn’t accept it in the EU) "...
          1. Rufina 8 October 2015 07: 54 New
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            Quote: hrych
            Russia is waging a serious war, the consequences are unpredictable, so we need to clarify the location of Turkish radars and airfields because if that ...

            And there are "Iblis" supply bases in Turkey. So he yells that an attack on Turkey is an attack on NATO. I realized that we see someone's face in fluff.
            1. samuil60 8 October 2015 21: 14 New
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              Turkey dreams of returning to the times of the "Brilliant Port". Well, at the same time about the oil and gas pipelines that could go from Qatar to Europe through the territory of Syria under the control of Turkey, which would pump itself out as much as needed. And who is stopping? Right, Assad. Because while it has the support of Moscow, it will never do it. So they all go crazy - both Turkey and Europe. Well, America, too, where to put it ...
          2. russmensch 8 October 2015 10: 55 New
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            Now on the network the location of the Patriot bases in Turkey has already appeared. And here the “caliber” turns out to be nearby ... However, the ambush is for NATO and Erdogan.
      2. andj61 8 October 2015 08: 04 New
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        Quote: Nik_One
        Erdogan has his own interests in Syria there, so the Turks in this matter sing in unison with the White House.

        Not at all in unison. Erdogan has his own interests - this is the Kurdish issue. Under the guise of fighting ISIS, Turkish aircraft bomb the Kurds in Iraq and Syria. In this direction, Erdogan supports the Islamists, and turns a blind eye to the purchase of cheap ISIS by Turkish companies. The United States, by contrast, supports the Kurds. And now the Kurdish militia - the Peshmerga, through the efforts of the Americans, can become a counterweight to Assad’s troops and that ground component for the United States and the American-led coalition in the fight against ISIS.
        That is, they are now trying to put together a new front against Assad: with the "moderate" opposition, it turns out very well - they try with the Kurds.
        Therefore, Russia needs to make possible efforts to normalize relations between the Syrian government and Kurdish leaders by promising the Kurds, for example, the broadest autonomy: the main enemy of both of them is the same - the Islamists, and, first of all, ISIS.
      3. Buffalo 8 October 2015 10: 01 New
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        Turkey, Israel and the United States have common goals:
        the capture and partition of Syria,
        encirclement and destruction of Iran.

        The curse of Turkey. Video.
        https://youtu.be/u57bb6Hqh3M
    3. vyinemeynen 8 October 2015 06: 42 New
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      interesting that the Turks will sing after 26 Caspian-Syrian transit of XNUMX objects laughing
    4. andre 8 October 2015 07: 35 New
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      I thought the Turk had eggs, but no, it turned out to be a shka. But how frightening is it that we will not let your tourists go to the Turkish side? We have not yet forgotten the “Chechen” terrorists to you, that you were cured and sponsored by you !!!!
    5. vodolaz 8 October 2015 07: 43 New
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      The Turks will play out if they do not stop trying to sit on two, or even three chairs, one back. They tried to bend us through the gas pipeline, saying that we still have nowhere to go, and then Nord Stream-2 appeared.
      1. Stirbjorn 8 October 2015 11: 09 New
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        Quote: vodolaz
        The Turks will play out if they do not stop trying to sit on two, or even three chairs, one back. They tried to bend us through the gas pipeline, saying that we still have nowhere to go, and then Nord Stream-2 appeared.
        Yes, they were never our friends. At the first opportunity, Erdogan and the Crimean Tatars and the Armenian Genocide shouted in our direction. Bullshit is a southern stream full, will be thrown as soon as possible
    6. marlin1203 8 October 2015 09: 22 New
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      It means you can fly and bomb without authorization Syria, but for a few seconds you can’t “peek” into the border zone of Turkey ... Would they go by the "forest"! In any case, they will not shoot.
    7. silver_roman 8 October 2015 10: 59 New
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      Quote: slizhov
      It’s time for Erdogan to understand that the United States can surrender it at any time along with the ports, as the EU, led by Frau, is surrendering.

      we must understand that there can be no friendship with the Turks. completely alien and hostile nation. it was, is and will be. more than once fought with them.

      And against the background of blackmail on gas.
      But on the other hand, if such airspace violations did occur, then this is really rude. Combat aircraft, sure with weapons. But on the other hand, if we are talking about friendship, then the Turks, headed by Erdogan, could solve the issue in private with ours, without raising the bill to NATO. And this kipish is not accidental. So the Turk is trading with the Saxons. everything is simple and as always.
  2. Tatarus 8 October 2015 06: 17 New
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    Do Turks seriously consider their attitude to Russia as friendship? The holiday season ends and immediately bold steel, gaping mouth. It is necessary to somehow introduce an official ban on holidays in Turkey for one season. And Sanctions on the import of all products. And All at once will fall into place. Better in Egypt, and even better in Russia (sometimes the truth is more expensive, it’s not strange) what ) IMHO
    1. Nik_One 8 October 2015 06: 29 New
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      States generally do not have the concept of friendship and friends. States have only their own interests.
    2. Penetrator 8 October 2015 06: 37 New
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      It’s necessary to introduce an official ban on holidays in Turkey for one season

      This one action will immediately sober up our Turkish "friends". To lose the influx of more than 2 million tourists a year is a tangible loss for the tourism industry.
    3. inkass_98 8 October 2015 07: 03 New
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      And Sanctions on the import of all products.

      First provide the coast with your own products. In the midst of the struggle against the communist legacy in Sochi, ALL fruit and vegetable farms that supplied the city and visitors with banal greens and fruits were destroyed. Then they took up the poultry farm. Only Turkish deliveries made it possible to supply the city with fruits and vegetables, as well as common dishes, clothes, military chemistry. I have personally observed all this beauty.
      And after the domination of Madame Baturina at Novorosscement, cement began to be imported to Turkey from Turkey (or even from China), because it was cheaper.
      1. Yuri Y. 8 October 2015 08: 48 New
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        Quote: Tatarus
        And Sanctions on the import of all products.

        Quote: inkass_98
        First provide the coast with your own products.

        And what)). Maybe then they will restore production, since we begin to move when there is nowhere to go. Checked by sanctions)).
    4. Buffalo 8 October 2015 10: 11 New
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      It's not even about the holiday season. Erdogan’s reign ends. A new one may not come. - He has not been satisfied with the United States for a long time - obstinate and unpredictable. Israel is constantly quarreling. It also craps us ... Salt it.
  3. PlotnikoffDD 8 October 2015 06: 18 New
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    I can imagine what would happen if our plane flew into NATO space 40-50 years ago! Shucher to heaven would be. And then they have a concern, damn it.
    1. engineer74 8 October 2015 08: 46 New
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      They flied up, and on a regular basis, usually it was an MiG-25, to West Germany. But the Germans treated with understanding: "The plane is serious, the speed is M3, the turning radius in the GDR does not fit ...". And in the late 80s, the MiG-23 (the same UAV), without a pilot, flew over the field and demolished some kind of shed in the Netherlands! smile
      1. Uzzy 8 October 2015 09: 34 New
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        Serious aircraft, speed M3, turning radius in the GDR does not fit ...
        - from the heart!)
        And in the Netherlands there was a refueling
      2. K-36 8 October 2015 11: 46 New
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        For 74 engineer
        Sorry, but I have to make you an involuntary remark about your distortion of a well-known fact. Quote from your post: "... flew through the europe and demolished some barn in holland ".
        So, that MiG-23 crashed on the border of Belgium with France (exactly on the eve of Gorbachev’s visit to France, which could cause a much greater scandal). And the Holland indicated by you does not have a land border with France. yes
        Once again, excuse me for this amendment, but I do not care about the younger generation that reads us here. My personal conviction is precisely the fact that in their formation (as both my and your shift) they should receive real and truthful information, and not distorted (when inadvertently, and when specially distorted ...)
        Sincerely. hi
        1. engineer74 8 October 2015 16: 07 New
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          Not worth the apology! Thanks for the correction! good
          I specifically try to write about these things very briefly in order to provoke an independent search for information (better to remember, I hope.)! Which, of course, does not justify my inaccuracy! hi
  4. Michael_59 8 October 2015 06: 19 New
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    With such "friends" and enemies are not needed.

    Kindergarten, and only - do not go to my half of the sandbox, I’ll tell the teacher!

    In the same style, you can answer this way - take your resorts, give the Bosphorus! wassat
  5. Wolka 8 October 2015 06: 21 New
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    I won’t be surprised if the Yankees again and again push the Turks to aggravate relations with Russia ...
  6. Hubun 8 October 2015 06: 25 New
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    Well, Turkey will lose no less, and even more. You don’t need to sculpt yourself out of yourself
  7. iliitchitch 8 October 2015 06: 28 New
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    At the first “violation”, not all the positions of the “patriots” and the “refugee” camps were copied.
  8. ImPerts 8 October 2015 06: 29 New
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    Pretended refugees militants forgot to “clean” Facebook
    http://www.ridus.ru/news/199880
  9. ImPerts 8 October 2015 06: 30 New
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    Or here is such a valuable document of peace:
    1. Aslan88 8 October 2015 09: 50 New
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      They are Hezbollah fighters.
  10. strelets 8 October 2015 06: 37 New
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    The Turks said that an attack on them would be regarded as an attack on NATO. And NATO in response - Turkey is quite capable of coping by itself. What is it? Friendship is friendship, but is tobacco apart?
  11. vlad.svargin 8 October 2015 06: 53 New
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    After the Caspian "interview" on ISIS terrorists, alliance members will reduce their ambition and start scratching their "turnip"! In the event of an exacerbation, they will be taken everywhere with high accuracy, and faith in their master will decrease.
    1. Junior, I 8 October 2015 07: 32 New
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      They already have diapers full .... Here the NATO Secretary General was worried when he reported a “terrible statement” that we should not cross the borders of NATO in Turkey.
  12. Darth Revan 8 October 2015 07: 36 New
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    This is just training, why did the Turks get so nervous? laughing
  13. ermolai 8 October 2015 07: 45 New
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    First provide coast own products.

    and you, my friend, think of yourself as an outside observer? where does such neglect come from? yes there were and there are still batupins-chupays, but not everything is so gloomy. and their time is running out. cancerous tumors occur imperceptibly, and it is long and difficult to deal with them.
    1. rosarioagro 8 October 2015 08: 12 New
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      and their time is running out.

      Why do you think so? It’s just everything blooms and smells, because no one plans to abandon the liberal values ​​of capitalism
  14. Senior manager 8 October 2015 07: 47 New
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    Violation of the border of a sovereign state is not good for anyone, the whole question is, is it worth it to stink so much, because Russia has explained itself and even gotten into trouble, what else is needed? Turks they are Turks.
  15. Follow 8 October 2015 08: 01 New
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    Well, the Turks, of course, must respond. And because of the ocean, something yapping? Did they break their airspace?
  16. ARES623 8 October 2015 08: 02 New
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    R.T. Erdogan made it clear to Moscow that her friendship with Ankara is being tested: "... if Russia loses a friend like Turkey ..."

    And when, interestingly, Turkey became a friend of Russia? In all relations, Turkey has not one step back from mercantile gain. I think, given the flow of terrorists across the Russian-Turkish border, it is high time to install a filter on the border and cancel the free border crossing. Turks have always been opponents of Russia in the region. So it remains today. They want to squeeze out such a jackpot from the “Turkish stream” that TP itself has come under a big question. Where is the friendship here? One such friend - and the enemies do not need ....
  17. parusnik 8 October 2015 08: 25 New
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    "... if Russia loses a friend like Turkey ...".. Eeeee ... and when we were friends? Mutually beneficial relations were and are ... But no more ... I don’t remember that Turkey would tear the shirt on her chest, vomit, for Russian brothers ..
    1. Kiroant 8 October 2015 17: 00 New
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      Such a friend should be shortened for an organ and delivered to a cultural place (which museum). wink
  18. Angara 8 October 2015 08: 29 New
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    And again, once again, the United States is concerned wassat
  19. RuslanNN 8 October 2015 08: 53 New
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    Quote: ImPerts
    Pretended refugees militants forgot to “clean” Facebook
    http://www.ridus.ru/news/199880

    Hizbon judging by the emblem
  20. aszzz888 8 October 2015 08: 55 New
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    But if Russia loses such a friend as Turkey, with whom it cooperates on so many issues, it will lose a lot, and should know about it. ”


    Well, this is a threat from a "friend", and friends don’t do that. Apparently Erdogan does not really want to be friends with us. He has friends of NATO and meritosos.
  21. Cap.Morgan 8 October 2015 08: 59 New
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    All Turkish light industry works on the Russian market. It’s time to introduce sanctions. These are not Dutch tulips, there are goods worth tens of billions.
    1. Samarskiy 8 October 2015 12: 01 New
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      Yes, and with \ x products in Turkish bulk.
  22. ale-x 8 October 2015 09: 00 New
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    YES quit! He just tries to save face. They all (NATO) are now losing "their investments in the SAR" under the bombing. Nerves, what can I do. You need to react anyway, or else "the guys will not understand."
  23. Oman 47 8 October 2015 09: 03 New
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    Now, at the direction of a puddle, they will dig to the pillar ...
    The Turks themselves bombed the territory of the sovereign state of Syria without any problems.
    NATO’s cobblers ...
  24. Dimka999 8 October 2015 09: 21 New
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    Yeah, and when NATO violates airspace 500 times a year is this normal?))
    1. avia1991 8 October 2015 11: 28 New
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      Quote: Dimka999
      when NATO per year 500 times violates airspace is normal?))

      ..here in the box the data resulted: the airspace of Greece alone for a month (!!!) was violated by NATO planes more than a thousand times! What are there 500! smile
  25. thinker 8 October 2015 09: 25 New
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    Quote: Allex28
    Quote: Nik_One
    Erdogan has his own interests in Syria there, so the Turks in this matter sing in unison with the White House.

    Yes, they also promised a visa-free regime with Europe, so Erdogan sang. Maybe they promised a cheo ... lol
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  27. V.ic 8 October 2015 10: 56 New
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    "... if Russia loses a friend like Turkey ...".
    ... then the Turkish tourism business expects an imminent collapse!
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      They offset tourism revenues by increasing the supply of refugees to Europe laughing
  28. vnord 8 October 2015 10: 56 New
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    Just at RBC.RU: Turkish President threatens Russia with revision of gas contract

    Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said that Ankara may reconsider the issue of Russian gas purchases due to the aggravation of relations with Russia that occurred after the violation of Turkish airspace, etc.
  29. Volzhanin 8 October 2015 11: 20 New
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    Why is the west generally east hiding?
    REFUSE !!!
  30. avia1991 8 October 2015 11: 25 New
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    Probably, the Turkish god is now angry with the Russians
    I think that God (who is One, in fact) is angry, rather, at these dodges from the top of the Turkish authorities: what they do in real life goes beyond the limits of what is permitted! am
    ..And for our citizens, if at least a drop of patriotism remained in them, it would not hurt to declare a boycott to Turkey: the Turks would be extremely surprised to find out how much less they will have income from the tourist industry, with the "loss of friendship with Russia"! Europe does not need their third-class resorts for nothing.
  31. vladimirvn 8 October 2015 11: 28 New
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    It’s time to show the Turks what they can lose in the event of a quarrel with us. This is a limitation on the trains of our tourists, the purchase of agricultural products and consumer goods. We’ll sell it all;
  32. okroshka79 8 October 2015 11: 31 New
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    I measured on "Google Earth" the distance from the runway to the Turkish border. It turned out the smallest distance to it of about 47,58 km in the bearing of 22,3 degrees. The runway is oriented approximately 356,47-176,47 degrees. Someone's "clumsy" turns out. Explain to the aviators that there really wasn’t enough turning radius to reach the landing glide path, even taking into account the weather conditions? Or did you decide to check the Turks for "form 20"?
    1. avia1991 8 October 2015 21: 33 New
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      Explain to the aviators that there really wasn’t enough turning radius to reach the landing glide path, even taking into account the weather conditions?

      And you also "measured" the heights?
      I understand: Google is an authority, and it steers. But you can get real data only on flight cards .. which no one, of course, will give you. And then: the terrain plays a significant role in building the landing trajectory - especially if the weather also interferes with visual contact ..
      In short, dear! .. do not bother with what is not important for us. lol
      The weather was bad? Bad! Russia admitted a violation? Admitted .. And what else is needed ?! If tomorrow all of our pilots suddenly lose their spatial orientation, and grumble about Ankara, I won’t be surprised: that means, SO NEEDED! wink
  33. Earnest 8 October 2015 11: 36 New
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    Erdogan made it clear to Moscow that her friendship with Ankara is being tested: "... if Russia loses a friend like Turkey ..."

    As the centuries-old experience of Russian-Turkish relations says, "... enemies are not necessary with such friends" (c).
    Akkuyu NPP construction could end without Russian participation

    And what about the content of GMOs, pesticides and pests in Turkish fruit and vegetables?
    Turkey may reconsider the issue of purchases of Russian gas, NTV Channel quoted Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan as saying. The country can take such a step in connection with the aggravation of relations with Russia due to air accidents.

    If there will be so little gas in Turkey, then our tourists will be cold in winter, hot in summer, and spring and autumn ... but there is simply nothing to do there, in that Turechchina, solvent people.
    In short, one must understand that a bad world is better than a good quarrel.
  34. vladimirvn 8 October 2015 11: 44 New
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    Abyssally to the Turks, of course. They didn’t live, they were friends with ISIS, they bombed the Kurds, and speculated in oil. And then suddenly here you are: the rooks have arrived ...
  35. Samarskiy 8 October 2015 11: 59 New
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    Long before this whole situation, I wrote that Turkey is not a friend to us, but simply an important geopolitical piece of land that must be kept in sight. History shows that Russia did not have a bigger enemy than Turkey. I remember that at that time I was minuscule and it is funny to watch how the then defenders of Turkey then “repainted”.
    At the moment, it is clear to everyone that Turkey is the six US + entrance yard and base for the preparation of bearded cannon fodder.
    I hope that our government will draw the right conclusions. For starters, Turkey could be closed to our tourists. There is nothing to feed the Janissaries. And you can relax well in the Crimea, and in Sochi, but at least in Egypt.
  36. Leeder 8 October 2015 13: 02 New
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    Quote: russmensch
    Now on the network the location of the Patriot bases in Turkey has already appeared. And here the “caliber” turns out to be nearby ... However, the ambush is for NATO and Erdogan.

    Patriots in Turkey have already been hacked, but it is still unknown who. :)
  37. vladimirvn 8 October 2015 15: 25 New
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    Oh, Erdogan is jumping. After all, we can recall the centuries-old dream of the Russian people. “Tsargrad, as the third Russian capital, along with Moscow and St. Petersburg, would mean, however, not only moral domination of the East Christian world, but also a decisive step towards domination of Europe.” [F. Engels]
  38. Buffalo 8 October 2015 15: 28 New
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    The elder from Athos (Greece), Paisius, predicted shortly before his death that Istanbul would again become Greek Constantinople, the Turks would be divided into three parts: the first would convert to Christianity, the second would go on the run, and another third would die in the war (25 million).
    Video posted on YouTube.
  39. 1536 8 October 2015 16: 33 New
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    Only we thought that God did not create the Turks for war with Russia, as the British say. Oh no. Still, they lack common sense and a sense of self-preservation, so as not to listen to the incessant voices of Americans and British. They didn’t understand anything, they didn’t learn anything. It's a pity!
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    We need to build more greenhouses and hammer their tomatoes into Erdogan .... Let him chew them. And to announce the tourism industry the bike, I’d better spend the money in Crimea and Adler. Yes, and it’s harmful to eat as much as in Turkish hotels, and you can’t drink drinks like that except tea. Then let's see what Erdogachik will sing.
  41. Fight cat 8 October 2015 17: 44 New
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    “Russia may become the next target of ISIS militants” and specified: “If we do not find options to unite to fight against militants of the Islamic State, and Russia begins to fight them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will be their target. Russia will see both people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky. ”

    we have already seen TOW anti-tank systems delivered by the Americans, the so-called moderate opposition, but for some reason they were in the hands of ISIS.
  42. Foxmara 8 October 2015 17: 50 New
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    Israel regularly violated the Syrian border and nothing, NATO was not worried. And it feels like a holiday in Ankara - they found what to cling to, nabbatical talkers. It would be better if they said the truth that they are unhappy that the Russian Federation does not allow to divide Syria.
  43. Sasha_Sar 8 October 2015 18: 02 New
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    The BBC also reports that US Secretary of State John Kerry expressed concern about Russian aircraft flying in Turkish airspace. According to him, the Russian fighter could be shot down by Turkish aircraft. " Creatures "mattresses" with the wrong hands want to grab the chestnut from the fire, not work out. It is one thing to shoot down Syrian helicopters, and the SU-30 is a different thing with a Russian pilot. You can get such a "otvetku" in the face ...
  44. lance 8 October 2015 19: 08 New
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    Well, if Turkey insists on violating the borders of NATO and at the same time, NATO has something against Russia, then warn Turkey that violation of Syrian airspace by airplanes may lead to a response
  45. arnulla 8 October 2015 21: 37 New
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    Turkey is a friend of Russia? !!! Since when?)))
  46. Petrik66 8 October 2015 23: 20 New
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    The Russian Foreign Ministry makes a statement about the undesirability of Russian tourists visiting Turkish resorts. In Moscow begins a comprehensive audit of construction companies Renaissance Construction, Costa Construction, Moba, etc. RosSelkhoznadzor finds Turkish beetle in Turkish tomatoes and suspends the import of all fruit and vegetable products. Then it’s for sure - we will lose the Turkish “friend”. And the Turkish Kurds become rebels and fight for self-determination.
  47. tiheros 8 October 2015 23: 41 New
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    They squeezed the Turks, they want independent players, but they are too small. If the Qatari gas is blocked by Khan from Syria, they don’t want to be on a leash from Russia, they’ll have no energy to buy, although they would be quiet, no one would touch them .but they are trying to play the role of a regional power and neither Russia nor the states like it. Europe also does not burn to become dependent on the Turkish pipe. In general, Turkey is not beneficial to anyone. The Turks themselves have not joined any of the camps because of ambition. As a result, if the states with Syria and Iran do not grow together next in line Turkey or Saudi Arabia.
  48. Denis DV 9 October 2015 04: 31 New
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    Erdog plays out his own - "both ours and yours." I think there’s an internal political conflict and in the near future a civil war is possible in Turkey, and the Kurds will go to finish off the beast in the den. Assad can also add fuel to the fire in revenge - recognizes the south of Turkey as Kurdistan, here’s a "jolly" recourse
  49. rakiuzo 9 October 2015 08: 57 New
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    Vy tut ochen 'ljubite drochit' i laskat drug drugu svoimi kommentarijami, a ja pishu vam dlja raznoobrazija.
    Turtsija ne hochet chuzhih i nezhdannyh voennyh samoletov na svoem vozdushnom prostranstve, tem bolee, eti samolety do zubov vooruzheny. Russkim voennosluzhaschim / pilotom doverjat '- sumashedstvo! Stol'ko raz s russkimi my voevalis' i nedoverjaem ih, uranit on neskol'ko bomb, a skazhet - sluchajno, komu eto nado?!?
    Putin stradaet peredozirovkoj samouverennosti, pri etom, nedorazvitie kommentatory i ih nerazumnie kommentarii, na takih sajtah kak tut, imejut opredelennuju rol '.
    Miru mir. Turki ne narushili russkoe vozdushnoe prostranstvo, ih samolety ne vzjali v tsel 'ih voennyh samoletov. Po-etomu, Suka-Erdogan, i Bog znaet, chto on vor, ne zrja tak stonet svoe nedovol'stvie. Politika - takaja vesch ', chto ne vse jajtsy v odnu karzinu stoit klast'. NATO, SShA i Rossija javljautsja dlja nas serioznymi figuramy, chto stoilo by ne prekraschat 'ljuboj tsenoj peregovory i sivilizirovannie otnoshenie.
    Rossija, skol'ko by voennoj siloj ni bylo by bogatoj stranoj, bol'she vseh budet stradat 'v serioznom konflikte s stranamy iz zapadnogo mira. My eto perezhili v pervoj mirovoj vojne, kogda voevali protiv 16 country mira.