Notes on Communism

"Provide 10 percent, and the capital agrees to any use, with 20 percent it becomes lively, with 50 percent it is positively ready to break its head, with 100 percent it violates all human laws, with 300 percent there is no crime for which he would not risk , at least on pain of the gallows. "
Karl Marx



Recently it has become fashionable to show your anti-communism. Even the Council of Europe equalized communism and Nazism in its resolution. And a number of statesmen and politicians mockingly approved this action. In particular, those who began to glorify Nazism and its minions on a national scale. And the Council of Europe favorably regards the restoration of the fascist ideology in Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. Not a word against the restoration of Bandera in Ukraine. The Council calmly looks at the persecution of those people who fought against fascism. Our deputies and the government of United Russia in response mumbled a few standard frazochek and returned to their personal affairs, more close to them.

Not being a supporter of any ideology, I want to express my opinion, of course, subjective, like every person. And let the readers judge the result.

I consider it necessary to start with the establishment of Soviet power in October 1917. Modern historians prefer to call this event a coup (and at the same time a revolution - a similar event 1793 of the year in France). This alone indicates the lack of impartiality of these scientists. I can understand the personal approach, but not in science. Reflecting on this topic, I came to the conclusion that such a difference is explained very simply: the Great French Revolution only overthrew the monarchy, and the October Revolution abolished private property. This is what infuriates the current capitalists and their servants.

Private property! Nothing can be sweeter than her, for she gives wealth, power, power. Moreover, for some reason, the fact that the “tsar-father” was overthrown not by the bloody Bolsheviks, but by completely different forces, was forgotten and held back. And it was not the Bolsheviks who went to the tsar's headquarters for his abdication, but the same Cadets, Octobrists and others, that is, representatives of big business. However, the usurpers of power and the persecutors of the "beloved" monarchs for some reason were not Kerensky, Milyukov, Putilov and others ... But let us return to the sources.

It has become fashionable to accuse the Bolsheviks of red terror, of the horrors of civil war, devastation and collapse. It is useful to recall that the civil war and the intervention of more than a dozen states was not unleashed by the Bolsheviks. Who knows, do not happen such an intervention, as if the move went storieswould then be terror or not! Terror does not honor any political regime, and Soviet Russia is no exception here. But why, then, did the white terror get forgotten? Why did they forget about the atrocities of the Entente countries in Russia? Or was their terror much more humane? Maybe they hung, shot and burned in some other, human way? So I see a sugary stuffer on the content of United Russia, choking with delight, who almost sincerely thinks the White Guards are soaked with humanism to such an extent that they were taken prisoner by the Red Army men with tea and jam, dressed and shoes, took them to the bathhouse, and then made tea with jam. their harmonica with balalaikas to fill their leisure time ... Why did the latter-day statesmen and their hangers-out forget that the interventionist countries did not disdain to take out valuables, resources, artistic works? Or maybe their actions should be considered a legitimate method of warfare against communism? However, even now the values ​​of our country are being squandered.

These questions are very inconvenient, and rarely anyone can answer them impartially. It is much safer and more profitable to blame all the mortal sins of those who can no longer answer. And they pay very well for it. It is enough to cite as an example the well-known Viktor Suvorov, who cynically appropriated the name of the great Russian patriot and commander as a pseudonym and boasts that he became a traitor.

But back to the topic of the article. Terror was and there’s no way to get away from it, it’s a generally recognized fact, only one of its sides is hushed up. I will not say how justified he was in those conditions, you cannot rewrite history, and I will not say that the white terror was fairer only because they executed fewer people than the red ones. Although the issue of numbers is very controversial, because now it is impossible to accurately calculate how many people died at the hands of whites and at the hands of red ones. I will not whitewash and justify neither those nor those. We can not weigh human lives on the scales, the "humanity" of terror is not measured by a smaller number of ruined lives. But modern "democrats" are not at all worried. Money, given by large capital, it is necessary to work out. So the lush stream of distorted facts from the mocking Svanidze and others lashes, and rare impartial studies like Larisa Vasilyeva’s works drown in the stream.

The war died down, and the young Soviet republic accomplished what no other country in the world could repeat - in a few years the ruined and devastated country made a giant leap in its economic development. The value of this is not even denied in the West, but skillfully silenced or distorted in modern Russia. From a country that was almost completely destroyed, a great industrial power arose from chaos and ashes. This was not in any country in the world. And as it were, the modern rulers, beginning with Yeltsin and his gang, did not manage to create even the weak resemblance of this phenomenon, except for large-scale robbery of the people in the early 90s of the last century. Rather the opposite. It was these newly-minted "democrats," the henchmen of big capital, who inflicted the most shameful defeat on a country that, perhaps, since the times of Genghis Khan and Batu, has not experienced such enormous human and territorial losses. Even during the Great Patriotic War, the Nazis did not manage to inflict such significant damage on the country's economy and achieve such a reduction in human potential. After the coup in Belovezhskaya Pushcha in December 1991, the country rapidly rolled down. The rise of inflation, rising prices, rampant crime and a decline in morals began. And the mastermind of all this is buried in the prestigious cemetery of the country with the granting of various honors. In his honor, the university was renamed, despite the fact that, according to the referendum, the majority of students were opposed, and they were renamed only because the current rector was his “friend”, and he wanted to do something pleasant in memory of one of the most disgraceful politicians . They also rename the street, and not just any Driveway or Construction Road, but the street 1905 of the year, thereby erasing historical memory. But it was Yeltsin who carried out the plans of Allen Dulles to destroy the integrity of our country, the moral and moral essence of the peoples.

However, our democrats don’t care about it, everything is like water off a duck's back. "It is not important how it was," they say, "it is important how they will be remembered."

So they create an image of true guardians about the people that are loved and similar to themselves. They have no reason to remember that in the twenties of the same century, the Soviet state essentially carried out not only a political revolution, but also an economic and cultural one. And that in the most difficult years, the population of the country did not decline, but grew. Yes, philosophers and historians, writers and artists were expelled, but such phenomena existed before the October Revolution in many countries. And I repeat again: I am not talking about the comparability of phenomena, I am talking about the events themselves, regardless of the scale. Was such a gigantic transformation of the society under the Romanovs possible? Hardly. Of course, the industrial take-off of Russia at the beginning of the century was huge, but it rested on a solid foundation of the previous development. And Soviet Russia began practically from scratch. And not big capital liquidated the estates, not financial aces eliminated landlord ownership of land. In the same way, it is possible to talk about the elimination of almost completely illiteracy of the population. The Romanovs, whose fate is so annoyingly mourned by almost all current politicians, capitalists, bankers, economists, have done practically nothing in this area. And it was the Soviet government that gave knowledge, a letter and even its own alphabets to many peoples of Russia, and not a kind tsar-father. Or maybe I'm wrong? And, referring to the Romanovs, whose fate is so close to the heart of the modern regime, should I say a few words? Yes, they were shot, children were shot, but why were they ranked as saints? Why does the church love so much to kiss their remains and earnestly glorify? I am not an adversary of the church, on the contrary, I am a believer, but I am sickened by servility to no longer outstanding representatives of the royal dynasty. Which, by the way, are directly and indirectly to blame for the 9 massacres of January 1905 of the year, the punitive campaigns of 1905-1906, the Lensky shooting of the 1912 of the year and many other acts. For some reason, these things do not appear in the words of church leaders and government officials. Or are they simply considered trials that fell on the unfortunate Romanovs? In the history of each state was a lot of blood and crime. However, no one except us sprinkles ashes on his head and yells to the whole world about what a villain he is, a bastard and an idiot! Why should we be ashamed of our homeland and repent forever? Perhaps, in order to instil in all the rest, and the youth growing up in the country, the idea of ​​the inferiority of our people? And the ROC is zealous in this disgrace with its appeals: "Repent that you have killed the king, otherwise Russia will continue to live in nothingness - because she is punished for raising a hand against the anointed of God!" And this instead of instilling in the hearts of parishioners love for the Motherland, pride in their ancestors, their wisdom, courage and achievements! Why did Peter III or Paul I not receive this honor? By the way, Paul I did something for Russia, despite all his absurdities. But Grishka Rasputin completely disappeared from all that is associated with the names of autocrats. Who lived all their lives in bliss, warmth, satiety, they were declared saints, but those who were killed on Palace Square, who were trampled to death on the Khodynka field, are not even honored by mere mention in prayers. It is also useful to recall that under tsarism there was also such a shameful phenomenon as serfdom, when the nobles and the church did not disdain to have slaves at their disposal. And the same church is concerned only with the restoration of the monarchy, but the immediate problems remain behind. And although, on the whole, during the Great Patriotic War, the Orthodox Church stood in a patriotic position, yet some high-ranking representatives of the Russian Church Abroad and the Moscow Patriarchate supported Hitler. This is explained by the fact that the leaders of the Orthodox Churches saw in the attack of Germany and its allies on the USSR an opportunity to restore church life in the occupied territories, almost destroyed or driven underground by the Soviet anti-religious policy, and in the future to restore the tsarist regime that supported Orthodoxy financially and politically. At the same time, the good goals of the faith were replaced by the betrayal of the NATIONAL interests of Russia. And the honor and glory of those church leaders who did not go on about, and advocated a holy war against fascism.

Continuing the theme of the church, I want to point out that it is not quite clear to me why during divine services the best places are given to newly-minted merchants, unscrupulous politicians and others, although everyone is equal before God. Or are church leaders concerned only with their income, the restoration of the monarchy, the construction of churches and monasteries, and all the other problems? But this also applies to the current authorities, who don’t care about rampant criminality, drug addiction, corruption, prostitution ... But why don’t they care? Rather, even indulgence, since it was precisely in the CURRENT regime that banditry flourished in full bloom, bribery was widespread, prostitution became the norm, and Chechen terrorists receive indulgences. Pensioners were deprived of the right to free travel in transport, the pensions promised by 10000 remained words, utility tariffs are growing by leaps and bounds ... In general, the complete transformation of society into a capitalist formation according to plans of Dulles, Hitler, Yeltsin, Bush. Virtually no major official or activist of United Russia has received a real term of imprisonment for his crimes. Khodorkovsky is being blown away for all of them. Why is all the same blessed property, the instincts of predation, the desire for profit? Why is not one of the oligarchs sent a call to give all the property and money to the poor? But Jesus Christ spoke about this. What do the current statesmen and church hierarchs dream about when they offer prayers for the restoration of the monarchy? About the welfare of the people? Hardly. About their privileges and wealth? Very, very likely.

What can I say, if the burial of criminal authority becomes the center of media attention. And thanks to our authorities, young people know very well who Lena Berkova and Sergey Zverev are, but they cannot remember who Maya Plisetskaya and Sergey Obraztsov are.

Moral and spiritual values ​​are now advertised through a poshlyatinka in the form of "Comedy Club" and "Comedy woman", pornography flows like water from TV screens, the Internet and the media are full of colorful descriptions of murders and robberies that have become the norm. In the course and fashion "Albany" language ... It is necessary to open the Internet, and you can buy any prostitute at a "reasonable price." But kinoklassiki show masterpieces more often at night. And how they have not yet given the channels "Culture" and "Union" to the newly-minted rich Buratino! .. But they can, because United Russia is primarily concerned with its well-being. They plant a small fry for a stolen pie - right there and glorify and justify, allegedly, for the lack of evidence of true robbers and criminals.

In order not to be unfounded, I will give several examples of this attitude and double standards. In Blagoveshchensk, the city court put an end to the case of two former officials, who “facilitated” the budget of the Amur region for 794,6 thousand rubles. For the money they flew to Kamchatka to relax. All accused are given suspended sentences. Or in Yekaterinburg, deputies decided to create an entire palace for sittings. Apparently, things in the Sverdlovsk region are so good in all areas that the money remains to be spent only on this. And why utilities and education complain about bad conditions? They are slandering, apparently ... And I’ll also cite one excerpt from the Internet: "The court recognized that the daughter of the head of the Irkutsk election commission, who shot down two pedestrians on the sidewalk, is a witness to the accident, but not his culprit, reports BABR.RU. The culprit of the incident, as a result of which one woman died, and the second was left disabled, the court has not yet established. According to the newspaper, Anna Shavenkova’s attack on the girls in the center of Irkutsk was recorded by an external surveillance camera of the Baikal State University of Economics and Law, near which the accident occurred. However, the court did not take this into account, deciding that Shavenkova is a witness to the accident. However, according to the newspaper, the driver was not checked for alcohol in the blood.However, the procedure went through the injured. 2 occurred on December 2009 of the year.Shavenkova flew at high speed Two women were killed on the sidewalk: 34-year-old Elena and 27-year-old Yulia Pyatkovoy. Elena died as a result of the accident, and Yulia was seriously injured. Soon after the incident, a video about the accident spread on the Internet. The video shows how Shavenkova, taking off for a bus stop, got out of the car. Not paying attention to the victims, she began to inspect the damage to her car. ”

So tell me, the defenders of United Russia and the current regime: what is happening in our homeland?

Moral at the highest standards of modern society. Full triumph of freedom and democracy. However, this is precisely the secret desire of power. People with the psychology of small shopkeepers are much easier to manage than educated and thinking people. With all its sins during the Soviet era, there was no such cynicism, no sweeping immorality.

At the end of the 20-s, Stalin began a mass repression, the peak of which fell on the 1937 year. This fact is very fond of playing, talking about concentration camps, torture and so on. They cite figures of tens of millions of people shot (for the most part, this is suggested by the West), artificially whitewash everyone, regardless of the fact that there were real criminals. I will not refute any of this, because there is a lot of literature on this issue, let me just say that the British invented the concentration camps at the end of the 19 century, and torture, including mass tortures, was used very widely in the history of any state. Suffice it to recall the gladiators and slaves of ancient Rome, the despotism of Assyria and Babylon, the Spanish Inquisition, the oprichnina of Ivan the Terrible, the executioners of Peter the Great, the extermination of the peoples by the Turks during the Ottoman Empire. If you look at the solid historical works, it will not be difficult to find a lot of examples of terror against both your own and foreign peoples of almost every state. However, something I do not hear the moans about their atrocities. Or are there atrocities happening on a different, more humane basis? Why do not the French curse their king, who organized the St. Bartholomew's night? Why do not krivozashchitniki throw angry words to the British, who killed many people in honor of the empire and the robbery of half the world? Where did the righteous anger about the total extermination of Indians in America? Explain it to me, gentlemen "democrats" and others like them ...

At the beginning of the article I mentioned the notorious PACE resolution on the identity of communism and national socialism. But at the same time, the authors and those who happily voted for it, forgot that it was their states who fostered fascism, provided him with money and pushed him to take over. The Anschluss of Austria did not meet with any opposition from the leading countries of the "democratic" West. Poland has forgotten that as a result of the Munich Agreement, she received a piece of Czechoslovak territory, no one objected to the aggression of imperial Japan in China. All means were good, just to push Hitler to the east. And this is only the smallest thing that can be said about the role of the West in unleashing aggression and the Second World War. It is worth mentioning that after the end of the war thousands of SS and Nazis not only received asylum in the United States, but also were involved in work as specialists in the fight against communism. The Catholic and Protestant churches in Germany used forced labor of prisoners of war during the war. According to the testimony of a former US Army intelligence officer, William Gowan, in a federal court in San Francisco, Vatican officials sheltered Nazi war criminals and collaborators from arrest and trial. They also helped harbor and legalize property taken from the victims of the Nazis, including Jews. Thus, assistance was rendered to Klaus Barbie (“the Lyon butcher”), Adolf Eichmann, Dr. Mengele and Franz Stengel, the head of the death camp Treblinka. And these are only individual names, they can be called hundreds and thousands ... And the same Americans not only do not condemn the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they are proud of it, as they are proud of the extermination of the Vietnamese people. How are their actions different from the actions of the communists? What other qualitative assumption underlies their actions? What do you say, gentlemen democrats and accusers? Why do former SS men feel at ease in the Baltic States today, why monuments are erected to them, verses are composed in their honor, and you are modestly silent, only occasionally squeeze out some attempts of indignation, which in the West do not care for everyone? Georgian follow-ups blow up a memorial to Soviet soldiers ... Here they are, the consequences of Yeltsinism and rotten capitalism. But do the powers that care care? So, a couple of words, that's all. Could this happen during the Soviet era?

And the last thing I want to say. Say about the people who govern us. Can they be called true patriots? People who from the heart kissed Leonid Ilyich, glorified him wherever possible, people who swore allegiance to the CPSU and commitment to communism, and in 1991, they burned together their party cards and became anti-communists at once? Who are they imposing the capitalist worldview, the servants of big capital? Try to answer, readers, can you be considered honest people of all these Chubais, Gaidar, Rossel, and others like them? Can we be considered the guardians of national welfare, when at the end of the year they brag not about their own affairs, but compete in the number of millions earned by them? And if so, when and where did they fight for our interests and dignity with you, without sparing either your life or your wallet? It is not a sin to remember those who, entering the post of the next trough, are instantly recorded in the ranks of the "United Russia". I do not believe that by the dictates of the soul, their only motive is the dictates of their own pockets, for by joining not only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but at least Fair Russia, these bureaucrats will instantly fly out of their familiar spots like cork from a bottle of champagne.

And one more example for defenders of the current regime. Most recently, the general director of the Kalina concern stated that he was very pleased with the fact that the trade unions had been liquidated at his enterprise. What a wonderful analogy with Henry Ford, who acted and acted similarly, with the only difference that in his office hung a portrait of the great Fuhrer of the German nation. However, I would not be surprised if the current oligarchs keep similar Parsons, if not on the walls, then in the drawers of their tables.

That, in general, is all I wanted to say. Foldable turned out or not, to judge you. I agree that the article has a lot of flaws, a small volume, and, perhaps, does not contain interesting facts. I will be glad to receive any feedback, suggestions, criticism. At the same time, please remember that, like any person, I am not devoid of bias, and do not judge too harshly.
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  1. aszzz888 9 October 2015 05: 29 New
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    I do not believe that, at the behest of the soul, their only motive is the order of their own pockets, for, having entered not only the Communist Party, but at least Fair Russia, these officials will instantly fly out of their homes like corks from a bottle of champagne.


    The author, apparently, is an ardent opponent of EP.

    The article examines the gaps in our foreign and domestic policies. But with them there is work and struggle, both of the president personally, and of the relevant state structures
    Yes, I would like to resolve all issues at once, at a time. But this, unfortunately, in nature is extremely rare and does not always end with the good of the cause.
    1. vladimirZ 9 October 2015 06: 53 New
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      The ideas of social justice, communist ideas, if you like, are now out of fashion with the power-holding rich class of Russian exploiters.
      Moreover, in any form of government. Remember the recent statement by President of Russia V.V. Putin: "We will not build state capitalism at home!"
      They are not even satisfied with state capitalism, which admits the basis of state structure in the form of dominant private property for all.
      They need a state of oligarchic capitalism, in which power is concentrated in the hands of a narrow circle of persons (oligarchs) who own everything and everything, and corresponds to their personal interests, and not to the common good of the whole people.

      What can we say about a socialist society, the forerunner of a distant communist society that ensures social equality for the whole people.
      Therefore, they are struggling with everything Soviet, communist, which remains in people's memory, and seek to prevent any propaganda of communist ideas, mixing them with the "red-brown plague" of fascism.
      1. NordUral 9 October 2015 10: 07 New
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        I subscribe to your words. And he himself would have written the same thing.
      2. Severomor 9 October 2015 12: 09 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Therefore, they are struggling with everything Soviet, communist, which remains in people's memory, and seek to prevent any propaganda of communist ideas, mixing them with the "red-brown plague" of fascism.

        And I will subscribe to every word.

        The most interesting thing is that it is crushed into the head how bad communism is. And who saw him? How do they know? They grind that there was nothing, but between the Civil and the Patriotic War - 19 years (if you count from 1922, and the Basmachis were persecuted in the 30s), then the country was restored after. Cards were canceled before the United Kingdom.

        Socialism is never communism.

        We read "The Hour of the Bull", and to begin with, "Dunno on the Moon"
        1. Mahmut 9 October 2015 13: 56 New
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          It is enough to cite as an example the notorious Viktor Suvorov, who cynically appropriated the name of the great Russian patriot and commander as a pseudonym

          Viktor Rezun is a graduate of the Suvorov School, where he was given the nickname "Suvorov". But the slaughterers in Ukraine have always been called slaughterers of cattle, and later - executioners during the Volyn massacre.
          Having experienced a complete fiasco in historical forums, a friend decided to visit VO. Here people are more trusting, rub any heresy into them.
        2. allian 10 October 2015 00: 51 New
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          Quote: Severomor
          then the country was restored after. Cards were canceled before the United Kingdom.

          Well, you are just a good fellow. Found an advantage. I'll tell you one more thing, for free. Our sun rises earlier. Those. first to us, and only then to the British. According to the residual principle.
          First, look at the level of well-being of the inhabitants of “unfortunate“ small Britain. ”And the other“ successful regions ”that you mentioned. Especially those that remained in the current,“ renegade socialism. ”And especially in comparison with those that nevertheless converted to“ damned capitalism ” .
          You are our signatory.
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      3. Uncle Joe 9 October 2015 16: 05 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Remember the recent statement by President of Russia V.V. Putin: "We will not build state capitalism at home!"
        They are not even satisfied with state capitalism, which admits the basis of government in the form dominant private property all
        A dominant private property all - What is it like? wassat

        When Putin says that he will not build state capitalism, he lies: state capitalism (aka private-state partnership), which is the worst form in reflecting the interests of the majority, has blossomed and smells in the Russian Federation for a long time - an example of a state corporation.

        Although maybe he means that he will not build it where it is not interesting to the oligarchy and the ruling class (large owners).


        The crowding out and death of small and medium-sized farms is even more accelerated. The concentration and internationalization of capital is growing tremendously. Monopoly capitalism passes into state-monopoly capitalism, social regulation of production and distribution, due to the pressure of circumstances, is introduced in a number of countries, some of which are moving to universal labor service.
        While maintaining private ownership of the means of production, all these steps towards greater monopolization and more state control of production are inevitably accompanied by increased exploitation of the working masses, increased oppression, difficulty in repelling the exploiters, intensified reaction and military despotism, and at the same time inevitably lead to an incredible increase in the profits of large capitalists at the expense of all other sections of the population, to the enslavement of the working masses for many decades, a tribute to the capitalists in the form of paying billions in interest on loans. But the same conditions when abolishing private ownership of the means of production, when state power passes completely into the hands of the proletariat, are the key to the success of such a transformation of society that will destroy the exploitation of man by man and ensure the welfare of everyone and everyone ”
        V. Lenin t. 31, p. 449-450
        1. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 16: 56 New
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          ... the Communists are instructive: Farion. And Kravchuk .... whether on these we are equal ??????
          1. Uncle Joe 9 October 2015 17: 32 New
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            Quote: EGOrkka
            ... the Communists are instructive: Farion. And Kravchuk .... whether on these we are equal ??????
            Personally, you definitely don’t need to equal them - you are no different from them anyway smile
            1. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 19: 16 New
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              Uncle Joe
              You are no different from them anyway


              ..... hmm ????????? By comparison, I do not rush from candy wrappers (dollars) to illusions (communism). If I vote for Putin, then in the local elections for the Liberal Democratic Party. Not by the fact that I love very much ........ But from my life I know ... how they ask for power, alone, but how they seized power, do not tear it ..... The truth is never voted for shit-democrats, these in my head some candy wrappers ..... hi
              1. Uncle Joe 10 October 2015 00: 05 New
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                Quote: EGOrkka
                I'm comparing to you
                You, without any comparison with me, looking at the book you see only a figure of 3 fingers.

                You didn’t hold a manual on economics, what communism you can’t imagine in principle, what it is utopian to explain, the stump is clear, you’re not able to, but you like to speculate on the above topics.

                The picture is exactly about you smile
                1. allian 10 October 2015 01: 00 New
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                  what is utopian to explain in it

                  Yes, it is impossible for a believing Marxist to prove the utopianism of “communism”. Therefore, it is best not to do this. Let yourself believe in a wizard in a blue helicopter. After all, what difference does it make with what term this pseudo-religious group of the population calls its "kingdom of heaven"?
                  1. Talgat 10 October 2015 12: 32 New
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                    Communists are different

                    There are Trotskyists — who wanted to burn the USSR in the furnace of revolution — women’s children in separate camps. men to their camps, etc.

                    Such was Goloshchekin, reduced our population from 8 to 3 million - and correctly, Stalin lifted the dying person from a hospital bed and shot him

                    I consider myself a Soviet communist, like our parents and grandfathers, in conditions when Eurasia was initially placed in unfavorable climatic geographical and economic conditions, they achieved the highest standard of living and fed the people

                    There are one or two crops in the West, we have one or two crops, our production costs are several times higher due to the cold, they have ports and dominance over the global economy, they print bucks and the whole world works for them - we have frost

                    Nevertheless, the SOvet project created an alternative system, more human. honest, not based on slave labor of the third world and oppression, not on the terrible rat race of capitalism,

                    and on collectivism and care for each participant - and the best were quite well encouraged - of course there were flaws - but we unfortunately "poured water along with a trough of water and a child"

                    Having collapsed the Union, we all did not live better - and thousands of times worse - most of the population slipped into poverty. lost medicine and education, still get out - depending on oil prices

                    One hope for our new Eurasian Union - but Putin must "squeeze" the oligarchs, continue returning strategic assets to state ownership - it started well, as it were - but there should be a continuation. China is a good example
                    1. allian 10 October 2015 14: 05 New
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                      Quote: Talgat
                      they REACHED the highest standard of living

                      From this moment can be more detailed? I'd like to know where in the USSR there was "the highest standard of living."
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                      Such was Goloshchekin, reduced our population from 8 to 3 million - and correctly, Stalin lifted the dying person from a hospital bed and shot him

                      Too unknown surname for a person who "reduced our population by 5 million people." Did you find the switchman?
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                      There are 5 crops in the west

                      Not 5, but 55. Do not be modest. To lie, so to lie.
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                      our cost price is many times higher because of the cold, they have ports and dominance over the global economy, they print bucks and the whole world works for them - we have a frost

                      Too shy to ask, and India, what is stopping? It’s not cold there. And the economy is also not all right. And in Canada, frost. And somehow they live. Maybe it's not in the cold?
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                      CO-project created an alternative system, more human. honest, not based on third world slave labor and oppression,

                      You are my dear. The USSR did not create anything new. And could not create. And stop telling me stories on this subject. I have lived enough with those orders. The usual ordinary pseudo-religious state with a feudal system of management. The only peculiarity, pseudo-religion was called Marxism-Leninism. And propaganda. And that's all, there was nothing more unusual in the USSR. And even more so, fair.
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                      Having collapsed the Union, we all did not live better - and thousands of times worse - most of the population slipped into poverty. lost medicine and education, still get out - depending on oil prices

                      What, you want to say that in the late USSR everything was somehow different? It was exactly the same. And everything was more or less, while oil prices were high. As they fell, your USSR collapsed.
                      Was it wrong with the early USSR? It was. But in order to get rid of oil, it was necessary to put up with slavery of a significant part of the population (in the Gulag) and periodic hunger.
                      Here you have your "socialism" in all its glory. The choice between bad and terrible.
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                      China is a good example

                      Exactly. Good example. The economy sways like a plywood house in a storm.
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                2. EGOrkka 10 October 2015 05: 55 New
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                  Uncle Joe
                  You, without any comparison with me .......


                  .......... how funny and naive you are ........... but at least a tree was planted in your worthless life ?????? bully
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                    but even though they planted a tree in their worthless life ??????
                    Yes - you’ve typed this comment (answer to mine) on the keyboard without standing lol
                    1. EGOrkka 11 October 2015 03: 47 New
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                      Uncle Joe
                      without standing typed ....


                      ... of course not ....... but wrote the main thing! (this is not the first time we are talking ...) hi
        2. Sling cutter 9 October 2015 17: 35 New
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          Quote: Mahmut
          Here people are more trusting, rub any heresy into them.

          While you are joking here, our “leaders” continue to “optimize” healthcare, reducing the number of beds, medical facilities, doctors and medical staff, and canceling the system of district doctors.
          Due to the failure to provide medical care, mortality in the Russian Federation in 2015 increased significantly.
          This is a direct genocide! and you at least .... in the eye, everything ... dew. am
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        4. allian 9 October 2015 23: 48 New
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          Quote: Uncle Joe
          state capitalism (also known as private-state partnership), which is the worst form in reflecting the interests of the majority, has blossomed and smells in the Russian Federation for a long time - an example of a state corporation.

          My dear, you do not need to label the current authorities as "capitalism." In any form. They don’t even smell of them. The next phase of “socialism” (that is, the next form of feudalism, to put it generally accepted in world science, and not “Soviet” terms) is on the face. We call it "renegade socialism." Communists can enjoy. Their handiwork. Another one.
          True, the Orthodox Communists in the shoes of the Communist Stalinists (Bolsheviks) for some reason are dissatisfied with this form. And the renegade communists are vilified in every way by calling them "liberalists." But this is their showdown. Intra-communist. Let them bite if they want. Just to shoot each other did not start. Like before.
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          V. Lenin t. 31, p. 449-450

          Today without brains again?
          I’m interested in this, don’t you understand that by quoting someone you insult yourself as a person? Are you looking for a roofer for your thoughts? Like, I’m a well-known du * ak, but the "authoritative comrade" will not let me lie. Is that the case?
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          Although maybe he means that he will not build it where it is not interesting to the oligarchy and the ruling class (large owners).

          The oligarchs? Without the oligarchs? Or did you notice the oligarchs somewhere? Tell me where they live, I'll go and see.
          Those whom you call oligarchs are scientifically called farmers. The farmers have always been in history with feudal lords of various stripes. The size of the farmers depended on the importance of the feudal lord. The richest were always with the monarchs. There was only one trouble, all the "wealth" of the farmer was ephemeral. If anything, then tomorrow fell, and chopping block. And wealth bye bye. If it is in the country. Perhaps the largest example from history is the “dispossession” of the Templar farmers in France.
          1. Uncle Joe 10 October 2015 00: 09 New
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            Either give us your definition and signs of capitalism, or I no longer spend time on you smile
            1. allian 10 October 2015 00: 35 New
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              their definition and signs of capitalism

              They are generally accepted. Those. not mine. And are in the public domain. Stir the rolls, take an interest. This is not for you to read the works of Marx, Lenin and Stalin, which are already 100-150 years old. It is interesting. And relevant.
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              or I no longer spend time on you

              And how do you order me to live with this thought now? After all, everything is lost. Everything collapsed right overnight. Yes, life has failed.
      4. allian 10 October 2015 00: 28 New
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        What can we say about a socialist society, the forerunner of a distant communist society that ensures social equality for the whole people.

        And you know how to make fun. I thought it was a sinful thing that such nonsense from the past anywhere else and never will hear. Was wrong.
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        Therefore, they are struggling with everything Soviet, communist, which remains in people's memory, and strive to prevent any propaganda of communist ideas,

        Yes, quit. No one is fighting Marxism-Leninism. For God's sake, what's the difference in what form a person dreams of a "kingdom of heaven"? In the classical form of this kingdom or in the form of communism? The essence of the phenomena is the same. The difference is only in terms.
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      Quote: aszzz888
      The author, apparently, is an ardent opponent of EP.

      Are you an ardent fan?
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      The article examines the gaps in our foreign and domestic policies. But with them there is work and struggle, both of the president personally, and of the relevant state structures

      Nonsense. For 15 years, the USSR has carried out industrialization, the United States and Germany have made an industrial breakthrough, and we have NOTHING done anything, even fundamental (key) issues.
      1. Dembel77 9 October 2015 08: 05 New
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        It is absolutely necessary to return to the people the right to judge criminals as soon as possible, or to allow the acquisition, possession and free carrying of firearms (although both are better), then we’ll see what kind of officials the people will vote for!
        1. Basil50 9 October 2015 10: 16 New
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          With the connivance of the policemen, all the murmurs and bandits are engaged in terror of the population and of course none of those in power can even admit the idea of ​​arming the people. Shelupon huddles in packs and see how the policemen and all power protect them. How many examples * of protection * of drug traffickers, thieves and other organized * criminals * are fattening and not afraid of anything. When the Andropovites smashed the police and took under protection * thieves in law * everything was prepared to seize power. And now the bandits are trying to terror * instill a love * for power as the only defense.
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            Quote: Vasily50
            With the connivance of the policemen, all the murmurs and bandits are engaged in terror of the population and of course none of those in power can even admit the idea of ​​arming the people. Shelupon huddles in packs and see how the policemen and all power protect them. How many examples * of protection * of drug traffickers, thieves and other organized * criminals * are fattening and not afraid of anything. When the Andropovites smashed the police and took under protection * thieves in law * everything was prepared to seize power. And now the bandits are trying to terror * instill a love * for power as the only defense.


            Dear Dmitry, I bring to your attention that DAMA, together with the ex-Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Nurgaliev, has long carried out a successful reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and now everything is fine, you just don’t know about it yet.

            Something like this, Dear. good laughing laughing laughing hi
            1. Basil50 9 October 2015 13: 46 New
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              Thank you, apparently I look more at the street than at the TV. Now with the assurance of Nurgaliyev immediately felt better.
              1. Vladimir 1964 9 October 2015 14: 02 New
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                Thank you, apparently I look more at the street than at the TV. Now with the assurance of Nurgaliyev immediately felt better.


                You see, Dmitry, it’s easier for me, he helped a person, I did a good deed. laughing hi
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          2. Basil50 9 October 2015 13: 51 New
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            In the so unloved * by democrats * of the SOVIET UNION, with AND IN STALIN, weapons could be bought upon presentation of a passport or identity card. By the way, weapons were also sold on the BelOMOR CHANNEL. And not just shotguns.
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              Quote: Vasily50
              In the so unloved * by democrats * of the SOVIET UNION, with AND IN STALIN, weapons could be bought upon presentation of a passport or identity card. By the way, weapons were also sold on the BelOMOR CHANNEL. And not just shotguns.


              Dmitry, I’ll add a little. And with membership in the society of hunters and fishers. This requirement was mandatory. hi
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                Quote: Vladimir 1964
                Dmitry, I’ll add a little. And with membership in the society of hunters and fishers. This requirement was mandatory. hi

                Not certainly in that way. The distribution brother in the early 70s chose the High North. Father just mailed him a double-barrel. Accepted and reached without problems. Brother is not a hunter, maximum shooting at banks.
                The author wrote the article heartily.
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      2. allian 10 October 2015 01: 43 New
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        For 15 years, the USSR has carried out industrialization,

        All the linden industrialization of the USSR showed itself on June 22.06.41, XNUMX. and further. When suddenly it “suddenly turned out” that nothing sensible was built. And what was built, it can not normally produce products. And if products are produced, then all sorts of rubbish.
        In fact, the industrialization of the USSR was carried out. But later, starting around 1943. First, on Lend-Lease equipment and technologies, and then on trophy ones. When it ended, it's hard to say. But precisely after the death of Dzhugashvili.
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          All the linden industrialization of the USSR showed itself on June 22.06.41, XNUMX. and further.

          Talk complete nonsense.
          A powerful industrial power was created from an agrarian country destroyed by war. A little clumsy, yes, but the foundation was created, and thanks to her she won the Second World War and only to her. Who in the world could make such a breakthrough? Yes, no one. The country destroyed in the Second World War created nuclear weapons in 4 years, and in 15 years it drove the United States into a space race. And this is one snout. Industrialization ?, it is not only production, but also science and education. Something like this. tongue
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            A powerful industrial power has been created from an agrarian country destroyed by war

            Yes? And where did she go 22.06.41/XNUMX/XNUMX? This is the "industrial power"?
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            but the foundation was created, and thanks to her, the Second World War was won and only to her.

            Then answer a simple question, what for Dzhugashvili needed the Anglo-Saxons? Why give them the lion's share of European production (3/4, if you are not in the know, because Germany was defeated by 4 countries)? Since everything was so cool hurt yourself?
            The answer is simple. Cool was not hurt.
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            Who in the world could make such a breakthrough? Yes, no one. The country destroyed in the Second World War created nuclear weapons in 4 years, and in 15 years it drove the United States into a space race.

            You are simply ridiculous in your pathos.
            To start, create nuclear weapons, it's half the battle. The most important thing in this business is delivery vehicles. Of course, after the mass production of ammunition is established. So, the possibility of guaranteed and mass delivery of nuclear weapons to the United States was received by the USSR only in 1963.
            As for "dropping the US in the space race," so what are you talking about? Squirrel, Strelka and Gagarin launched the first? So what? What's up with that? What is the profit? Why was undernourished about this?
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            Industrialization ?, it is not only production, but also science and education. Something like this

            What. Then a little about education. In 1930 The USSR ordered Germany a 76 mm anti-aircraft gun. The Germans did not particularly strain, in the billet of their 88-mm gun barrel drilled a smaller hole and fused the Swodepia gun. Those put it into service under the name 3-K, and then 51-K. And only in 1939. it was found that the barrel can be drilled to a larger diameter. Enemies? Correctly shot Tagunov, who led the acceptance of 3-K?
            Not at all. In 1936 and 1939, someone designed Grabin, and his cannons F-22 and F-22USV were adopted. They were also made with very thick trunks. In the USSR, they simply could not count the strength of metal.
            There were "great designers", "artillery geniuses", but they could not calculate the thickness of the barrel. There was no one.
            A little about the muzzle brakes. It would seem the simplest thing. But in the USSR they were made with a circular release. From this pillars of dust and unmasking positions. And only after the outbreak of war did the diesel fuel begin to be made with horizontal release. Guess where such an idea came from? Elementary, in fact.
            About the KV tank checkpoint to write? And about a similar T-34 unit? On the subject of "education in the USSR" you can write a lot. Only here is a "man with a piece of paper", this is not necessarily an expert.
            By the way, the rocket engines that Gagarin threw into space, they, too, were not entirely Soviet. At its core.
    3. victor50 9 October 2015 09: 59 New
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      The article examines the gaps in our foreign and domestic policies. But with them there is work and struggle, both of the president personally, and of the relevant state structures

      Yeah. We fight against theft and corruption. Serdyukov, Vasilyeva .. Still need something? Well then, Chubais is a great patriot and a prominent statesman. And Peskov’s watches for hundreds of thousands of dollars are an indicator of the unselfishness of our elite and their high moral principles. And from the more general and serious - the level and accessibility of our education, both secondary and higher.
      1. Sling cutter 9 October 2015 10: 52 New
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        Comrades, what do you expect from the ugly liberal-bourgeois capitalist system?
        Social justice?
        Fair elections?
        Free medicine and education?
        Decent pensions?
        But this is not possible ..., the rearrangement of the figures on the Olympus without changing the formation itself will not give anything to the people, so ...
        "The main task is to promote the need to overthrow the existing
        authorities. We are not yet sufficiently prepared for this. But we must prepare.
        It is necessary that the workers, peasants and soldiers understand that without overthrow
        the current government they will not get neither the will nor the land!
        So, the question is not about the organization of power, but about its overthrow, and when
        we will seize power in our own hands, we will be able to organize it. "IV STALIN.
        (Speeches at the Sixth Congress of the RSDLP (b) Vol. 3 p. 184.)
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          Quote: Stroporez
          Comrades, what do you expect from the ugly liberal-bourgeois capitalist system?

          Actually, in the courtyard there is another variation on the theme “socialism”, beloved by the Communists. Why are you so unhappy, my dear? Judging by the stupid form of appeal, this is exactly what you needed.
          Only the Bolsheviks and indeed, supporters of a full-fledged bourgeois society can be dissatisfied. Be the first to submit "true socialism." And the second one would still like to finally move from feudalism to capitalism.
      2. Uncle Joe 9 October 2015 16: 29 New
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        Quote: victor50
        And Peskov’s watches for hundreds of thousands of dollars
        And Peskov’s vacation in Italy (the oldest member of NATO and the EU), which advocated the expansion of sanctions - this is how we fight with the West lol

        But nothing, soon it will all end!

        Vladimir Vladimirovich will sign a couple of such laws - 10.07.2015/2764752/XNUMX The FSB proposes to limit access to information about property owners http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/XNUMX, and we will sleep peacefully.

        And no bulk can not tell us that the cost of hours Press Secretary of the President, 25 years in the civil service, can not be compared with the cost of his hut laughing

    4. NordUral 9 October 2015 10: 03 New
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      Are you an ardent supporter? Or a member of this feeding trough? For example, for some clarity, it can be said that the whole gang of Komi needleworkers are members of the same, already all-Russian gang called EP. Dig any city in our country, there are soybeans Geigers and governors of Sakhalin, mayors of N. Novgorod.
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      MrK 9 October 2015 10: 53 New
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      Quote: aszzz888
      But with them there is work and struggle, both of the president personally, and of the relevant state structures
      Yes, I would like to resolve all issues at once, at a time. But this, unfortunately, is extremely rare in nature and does not always end with the use of business.


      25 years of struggle and work. But problems have not been solved, and are not solved. And all the work of EP is aimed at stealing and filling pockets with money.
      Maybe EP did better than it was in the USSR?
      It was the homeless people in the USSR, and the EP removed them, giving housing.
      It was 8 000 000 unemployed in the USSR, and you from EP gave everyone a job.
      It is in the USSR that pensioners were looking for food in garbage cans, and you gave a decent pension.
      It was in the USSR a shitty paid higher education, yes secondary education, and you made it free and of high quality.
      It was in the USSR that you had to get into lifelong mortgage slavery, and you give apartments for free.
      It was in the USSR that industry was destroyed and residential complexes for the rich were built on the site of the factories, and you demolished them and rebuilt the factories.
      It was mass drug addiction spread in the USSR, and you made all drug addicts worthy people.
      It was in the USSR it was impossible to go out without a passport.
      It was in the USSR that police tortured bottles in the anus.
      It is in the USSR that the people took out more than two trillion dollars from Russia from 1991 of the year from Russia and bought locks in the west, and current bureaucrats and thieves huddle in shacks.
      It was in the USSR that free high-quality medicine was destroyed, and you restored it and made it free.
      I am ashamed to read the apologists EP.
      Read the book “Cursed Soviet Power” by Alexander Kurlyandchik AND THE RESULTS OF REFORMS IN RUSSIA on Proza.ru. Recommend. This is a book today by ear. There everything is reasonably shown and with numbers.
      1. Mahmut 9 October 2015 14: 34 New
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        It was the homeless people in the USSR, and the EP removed them, giving housing.

        In the USSR, homeless people were called goddesses, and there were scourges.

        It is in the USSR that pensioners were looking for food in garbage cans, and you gave a decent pension.

        Those who are now rummaging through garbage cans, those in the USSR did not disdain this occupation either. My parents, pensioners, do not rummage and my grandmothers did not rummage, although their pensions in 1977 were enough for 10 kg. meat.
        If your rummaging - sympathize.

        It was in the USSR a shitty paid higher education, yes secondary education, and you made it free and of high quality.

        My grandmother was educated in tsarist Russia for free. Sikorsky, Tupolev, Mendeleev received education in damned tsarist Russia from the damned tsarist professors.

        It was in the USSR that you had to get into lifelong mortgage slavery, and you give apartments for free.

        Here you are right. In the USSR they gave apartments for free. Well, wait in line for 10-15 years.

        It was in the USSR that industry was destroyed and residential complexes for the rich were built on the site of the factories, and you demolished them and rebuilt the factories.

        So in fact, in tsarist Russia, factories were not destroyed but built. And the Transib was not built by Komsomol volunteers.

        It was mass drug addiction spread in the USSR, and you made all drug addicts worthy people.

        Under Nikolai, the bloody sale of alcohol to the indigenous peoples of the north and Siberia was prosecuted by law. Communist humanists abolished this discrimination.

        It was in the USSR it was impossible to go out without a passport.
        Where it was impossible before and now.

        It was in the USSR that police tortured bottles in the anus.

        The police did not torture, and the kidneys were lowered by a couple of times. They could have been killed in broad daylight (ask Rubtsovsky)

        It is in the USSR that the people took out more than two trillion dollars from Russia from 1991 of the year from Russia and bought locks in the west, and current bureaucrats and thieves huddle in shacks.


        Bureaucrats and Thieves never huddled in shacks

        It was in the USSR that free high-quality medicine was destroyed, and you restored it and made it free.

        Free medicine existed in tsarist Russia. In the USSR, teeth were treated for free, without pain relief, ugly.
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        It was in the USSR that police tortured bottles in the anus.

        What do you. The NKVD officers could still teach the Gestapo. Have you noticed how many "enemies of the people" have confessed to their "atrocities"? And how many "revealed the activities of criminal groups"? Those. tapped on those whom they say. The big ones were "specialists."
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        It was the homeless people in the USSR, and the EP removed them, giving housing.

        Homeless people in the USSR were. I saw it myself. Actually, the term itself is from those times. Not out of nowhere arose.
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        It was 8 000 000 unemployed in the USSR, and you from EP gave everyone a job.

        In the USSR there were 200 million unemployed. The whole task of which was to go to a certain place, which was called "work". For such "work" they received a corresponding remuneration.
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        It is in the USSR that pensioners were looking for food in garbage cans, and you gave a decent pension.

        Places where pensioners are looking for food in garbage can show? Can’t you? Well, you don’t have to tryndet.
        Quote: mrark
        It was in the USSR that you had to get into lifelong mortgage slavery, and you give apartments for free.

        Nobody in the USSR gave anything for free. The state rented apartments. Those who behaved well. And took away from the "bad." After all, they were not their own. And only in the Russian Federation the apartments were handed over to the property for FREE.
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        It is in the USSR, drug addiction spread massively.

        In fact, it was.
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        It was in the USSR it was impossible to go out without a passport.

        It was possible to go outside. But that’s all. It was impossible to do anything without a passport. Even the products in the store, in the late USSR.
        Quote: mrark
        It is in the USSR that the people took out more than two trillion dollars from Russia from 1991 of the year from Russia and bought locks in the west, and current bureaucrats and thieves huddle in shacks.

        And when the leaders of the USSR "huddled in shacks"? Addresses of these "huts" tell you? Surprise, but they did not look like shacks.
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        It was destroyed in the USSR free quality medicine

        Free quality medicine was in the Kremlin. I know for sure, I had to use it. A free semblance of medicine was in local clinics. Also had to use. Therefore, I can tell you for sure, it didn’t get any worse. To nobody. Neither users of the new Kremlin. Not to users of ordinary clinics. Everything is exactly the same as it was.
        But there was a bonus. Those who do not have an attachment to the new Kremlin can be treated with high quality for a fee. It used to be impossible. No attachment, bend. Or pay doctors from under the floor.
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    6. vlade99 9 October 2015 12: 03 New
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      But work and struggle are going on with them

      There is a struggle with their own people. I believe in it. I see it. I also observe thieves and robbers: Chubais, Vasiliev and others who are not related to the people. They are untouchables. In maintaining this status, hard work is going on.
    7. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 16: 54 New
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      .... on the forum whistling whiners and whippers ... incapable of doing anything in the prior ..... to them to work like a bad dancer ... something .... someone .... how something .... interferes !!! Understand ... and chop it on your nose .... PEOPLE will never vote for ... losers and talkers !!!! Stop talking nonsense ... and start at least something ... to do! Let out of thousands of idiots there is one who succeeds! And it is he who will lead the others .... bully fool bully
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        1. EGOrkka 10 October 2015 08: 11 New
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          the polar
          they are already dragging


          .... they don’t drag me .... and they don’t even call me ...... you hear people knocking on the door ..... it's up to you! bully bully bully
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        forum whistling whiners and whine

        100 pounds. The main idea is to return everything as before. Those. to do nothing as before. But something to do with it.
        They forgot that such a system collapsed on its own. There was nothing more to give to such loafers. The mustache is over. Costs catastrophically exceeded revenues. And a trust called the USSR burst.
        And once burst, where can I get the money? They have a plan for this. Take and share. It’s just some Sharikovs. They do not want to work and cannot categorically. Fundamentally. Although, agree to go to work. Sorry sight.
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          The saddest and saddest thing is that those who want and try to work are not allowed to do this. They do not give it at all levels, starting with the reluctance to simply fulfill their labor duties and ending with the adoption of laws that completely discourage the desire to create something.
          I have a dream, I want to launch a plant, such a small candle factory. Only now, more and more often, the thought appears "slap grandmas for quick" and dump somewhere. I’m afraid to approach the mailbox, because I haven’t seen anything good from government officials for 6 years of my own business ... Those who understand the topic about the mailbox :)
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    I, too, am not a fan of EP, there are more gopniks of a state scale there than in the zone. The author is right, which is already there.
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      Quote: Fox
      I'm not a fan of EP either

      How can you not love United Russia? People are undernourished, lack of sleep, they think about Russia. Laws, probably necessary, are adopted daily. Public health is taken care of. It’s been recently banned from smoking, though everyone spits on it, but it doesn’t matter, tomorrow they will also forbid anything. For example, spit on bans. Recently, four therapists worked in the clinic and there was always a queue for them, now there are two and an electronic queue. As in a fairy tale, without leaving home, on the Internet (if there is such an opportunity), I made an appointment with the necessary specialist and after a week, well, two, got an appointment. In addition, half of the "non-advanced" grandmothers, with their imaginary sores, immediately rebuilt themselves, but the rest quickly joined the high technology.
      They also care about industry. True, roofing felts are reviving, roofing felts are raised from their knees, roofing felts are put on their knees - it is not yet clear.
      In general: Glory to United Russia - the builder of a bright capitalistic future. They are golden people.
      1. skifd 9 October 2015 07: 30 New
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        I wouldn’t reduce everything to non-love by the author of EP. In fact, this is secondary. Propaganda! This is what can please the “moment” “magnify” the “flawed” or “nullify” a real breakthrough.
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        golden ones - in the sense that they cost us dearly? I personally only think so.
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    Even the Council of Europe equalized communism and Nazism in its resolution.

    And what else could one expect from them? Nazism, in my opinion, began more than a millennium ago, when one nation was artificially divided into different apartments, remember the “marquises”, they marked (delimited) their private plots, not paying attention to the people living there, after which they began to call residents of their plots in various words, calling it a nation. After that, various language dialects began to arise. So the "process" of creating private states. Communism (unionism, in our opinion) began a reverse movement, a movement of unification of various peoples (and states, too), which was even more confusing. Further to infinity ....
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      Quote: venaya
      After that, various language dialects began to arise.

      Lord, I thought that the separation of "languages" occurred during the construction of the Tower of Babel ... Thanks for the science !!! Do not attend to the dissertation? It's time, it's time!
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        Lord, I thought that the separation of "languages" occurred during the construction of the Tower of Babel ...


        Do you not believe in a bun, a pike (fulfilling wishes), a firebird and other fairy-tale characters? Or do you like only Jewish tales? Do not be rude to people whose statements you are not able to understand yet.
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          Do not be rude to people whose statements you are not able to understand yet.

          In order not to "be rude to people" - I’m interested in you (you understood, right, right?)

          - What are these “marquises” “a millennium ago” with which the “emergence of national dialects” began?
          - did I understand correctly that before the "marquises" all the people on the planet .. oh well, in Europe, at least - they spoke in one single language?

          Explain, if possible.

          Thank you yes
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            ... what are these "marquises" "a millennium ago" with which began the "emergence of national dialects"
            - did I understand correctly that before the "marquises" all the people on the planet .. oh well, in Europe, at least - they spoke in one single language?

            Explain, if possible.

            Thank you yes

            Thanks, I understood the question: "in Europe, at least - spoke one language?"- so far there is only one answer - there are a lot of variants of the Old Russian language, there is a lot of evidence in it. 2." Marquis "- the owner of the land plot fenced off (marked). Perhaps it is not clear, then: Who knows the ancient gods, there was a goddess of death" Mara ", from this word come such words as: morgue, sea (where they often die before), etc. There is a city called Marseille - the village of the goddess Mary (known from the XNUMXrd century). Near the sea, where fishermen they often died. Mara kills people, thereby everything mara (dirty, dirty) as a “market." from maral (he drew, from the word black) his plot is something.On this line (black namarona) people exchanged products without the right (serfdom) to cross it, hence the concept of “market”, such as a bazaar, but on the border of the marquise’s possessions There are both concepts in English, both “bazaar” and “market.” The marquise is the owner of a marked (scribbled) private plot. I feel that without preparation I gave out too much, not very well-known, I will correct it.
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              Thank you, I understood the question ... I feel that without preparation I gave out too much, not very well-known, I’ll correct

              Thank you, I understood everything and remembered:

              Quote: venaya (about Armata)
              Something seems to me that such an enormous amount of advertising information on this unified platform, the entire first serial batch, is more economically feasible to export, without even transferring it to trial operation in our own troops. But all the proceeds from this sale should be invested in some more useful and profitable business.

              Question cleared yes
              1. venaya 9 October 2015 10: 11 New
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                ... I understood everything, thanks ...
                Question cleared yes

                I am also satisfied that I gave you pleasure. I will only add that until the XNUMXth century in all European academies, it was believed that all European languages ​​were simply spoiled Hebrew. Apparently the consequence of writing the "Old Testament" (Torah) in Hebrew. In the XNUMXth century, the president of the imperial academy of sciences, Shishkov, wrote a book, “Korneslov,” from which it follows that European languages ​​are direct descendants of ancient Russian, thereby covering this topic for a long time. At the moment, there is a whole direction in the science of linguistics, continuing the work of Shishkov. Unfortunately, they are not advertised very much, but they are widely used, including in some military applications.
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                  In the XNUMXth century, the president of the imperial academy of sciences, Shishkov, wrote a book, “Korneslov,” from which it follows that European languages ​​are direct descendants of ancient Russian, thereby covering this topic for a long time.

                  That's right. And in the same places pink, tasty and nutritious elephants multiplied and fatly bred. And nowhere else. They were then "enemies of the people" exterminated from envy. The ones that Dzhugashvili later caught.
                  Lord, and why only on the Internet they will not write.
            2. a housewife 9 October 2015 12: 26 New
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              Well, at least Marcel in honor of the god Mars. But in general you pleased me, it turns out I am the Marquise! I have two such fenced sites - in the city and in the village. In general, it’s cool to know that all of Europe once spoke Slavic, I’m proud.
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                Well, at least Marcel in honor of the god Mars. But in general you pleased me, it turns out I am the Marquise! I have two such fenced sites - in the city and in the village. In general, it’s cool to know that all of Europe once spoke Slavic, I’m proud.

                Thank you for the letter, I’ll start with its end, where in my posts (in all) you saw the term "Slavic language", you did not fly from Mars, such a language on the planet earth has not yet been known to anyone. Everywhere I write exclusively about the Old Russian language. Now about the cities: we have the city of Brest-Litovsk, there is the city of Brest in the west of France, where Hitler kept his submarine fleet. Please tell me the name of the Roman god with a similar sound. Marseille does not translate as the village of Mars, but we have London city and the island of Cité de Paris, on it is the Notre Dame Cathedral. In both cases, we are talking about villages. Please, if you live in Russia, then read Russian fairy tales to children, and adults tell about Russian gods, I assure you, of much more than foreign ones. Go to Africa, study there African gods and their tales. This is not the first time I noticed after you that you are teaching people from the ABC book, I assure you, there are people who know much more than textbooks written by morons for the inferior. Minima do not always correspond to the truth.
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                  Now about the cities: we have the city of Brest-Litovsk, there is the city of Brest in the west of France, where Hitler kept his submarine fleet. Please tell me the name of the Roman god with a similar sound.

                  The word Brest has no relation to any gods. In ancient Celtic Brest, this is a hill.
                  And Brest is Belarusian, it’s just ordinary shanwan swagger. Because the city was called Berest. But it wasn’t cool, in a rural way. Therefore, the Poles took and renamed it Brzeжn nad Bug. But not in honor of the French Brest, but in honor of the Polish Brzhes-Kuyavsky. But then the Poles left and the city from Brzeцаc "abruptly and patriotically" turned into Brest. And so that there was no confusion, they added -Litovsk or -Litovsky.
                  Brzeцcz Kujawski is also not named after the French Brest. Because in Polish the first one is written as Brześć Kujawski, and the second as Brest. Those. these are different names.
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                I have two such fenced sites - in the city and in the village.

                This is a margraine, at least. laughing
                Quote: housewife
                In general, it’s cool to know that all of Europe once spoke Slavic, I’m proud.

                It is a pity that Europe does not know about this. And she doesn’t even know. repeat
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                  In general, it’s cool to know that all of Europe once spoke Slavic, I’m proud.

                  It is a pity that Europe does not know about this. And she doesn’t even know. repeat

                  Obviously, someone worked hard on this. Oh, to find this reptile, but soap the face. Either some religion of Africa will be dragged, then our past of its TORES will invent. Well, isn’t it. PTF, disgusting.
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              Very interesting. Regarding the "bazaar" it is not entirely clear, it is in the English version. But the "layout of the place" (in Russian transcription, English forgot the little thing) exists. As for the article, I can remind Khrushchev: “The current generation of people will live under communism” in 1960. At the CPSU Congress, a “historical” program for building communism by 1980 was adopted. It failed miserably. Khrushchev in 1964 was removed from all posts and lived out his life in the country. The time has come for Brezhnev's stagnation. 18 years. Five year plans that were not implemented. “With a feeling of deep satisfaction, the entire Soviet people accepted the historical decisions of the next No. of such and such a Congress ...” Adoption of the Food Program. A quarter of the crop was lost on elevators. 20 million collective farmers could not feed the country, they bought grain in Canada and the United States for petrodollars. The labor productivity of the Japanese worker was 6 times higher, and that of the American was 2, 5 times higher than the labor productivity of the workers of the USSR. Re-equipment of the machinery was not carried out. The Brezhnev period was characterized as stagnant, as stagnation. According to party documents, by 1980 we built developed socialism. You can write a lot. The Iron Curtain guarded our spiritual health. He collapsed and a stream of spiritual mud poured on us. LGBT activists? Or maybe bugger activists? The buggers parade on Red Square? What are you? Gorbachev didn’t destroy us. One man is not able to destroy a strong state. We were ruined by the planned management of the economy. The plan implies high spirituality and responsibility of the performer. And we drove the plan to the detriment of quality. There were entire departments at the sensitive enterprises, which divided the radio components into "military" and "civilian". All hams hunted for the "military." That's all. I am writing this with bitterness. Super smart, filthy trolls, please do not worry. All.
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                A less accurate description of known events, many remember. What follows from this?
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            5. allian 10 October 2015 02: 35 New
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              There is a city called. Marseille is the village of the goddess Mary (known since the XNUMXrd century). Near the sea, where fishermen often died

              Funny.
              No, really funny.
              From time to time, such “revelations” come across on the Internet.
              And always funny.
              I’ll give you free rein. The city of Mariupol, it is also on the sea. And there the people measures just in batches, not a couple to Marcel. So, obviously from the word "Mara."
              And as a nation of measures in the city of Marrakech, this is just a fairy tale. Horrible. Clearly from the word "Mara." True, there is no sea. But there is a desert. Such a dead.
              You see, my dear, your "scientific base" can be used up and down. And it always works out. Therefore, and ... funny.
          2. ava09 10 October 2015 11: 47 New
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            In order not to "be rude to people" - I’m interested in you (you understood, right, right?)


            Explain something rude individual does not see the point. Rude is at a different level of communication and, at a minimum, does not operate with arguments ...-)
        2. V.ic 9 October 2015 11: 24 New
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          Do not be rude to people whose statements you are not able to understand yet.

          With humor you, sir, strained, often read jokes, they say that heals. Tales from the category of so-called "alternative stories" are good in a warm chair and a beer, but on this site, I think you shouldn’t stick out with such a ravine ... stop
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          statements which you are not able to understand yet.

          So some statements, it is generally impossible to understand them. Not yet, nor later.
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      2. NordUral 9 October 2015 10: 11 New
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        You advance all myths into our fragile consciousness.
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          that European languages ​​are direct descendants of ancient Russian


          Quote: NordUral
          You advance all myths into our fragile consciousness.


          No, well, of course I like the linguistic matches of Zadornov, but I would not go to extremes ... IMHO. hi
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          You advance all myths into our fragile consciousness.


          ))) Strengthen the consciousness, it will help you, so to speak, to separate the grains from the chaff. At the same time, you will deal with myths.))) Indeed, in any myth the truth is contained, though in different proportions ...
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      Quote: venaya
      And what else could one expect from them?

      When they trample their past in the mud their own past, what else could you expect from strangers. This is a warning to us.
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      Communism (unionism, in our opinion) began a reverse movement, a movement of unification of various peoples (and states, too), which was even more confusing. Further to infinity ....

      Where are you writing to us from? From the cave? You have some cave views on history.
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        ... Where are you writing to us from? From the cave? You have some cave views on history.

        I understand that you are writing from Africa, so to speak, "The elephant is big, he knows better ...", from a palm tree, it seems.
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    One dream is to cut money, eat delicious food, drink, relax, sheer egoism, you can only take from the state, you can list for a long time and the second dream is space exploration, all people are brothers, pride in their country and desire to serve it, respect for people and just joy for his successes. Which one to choose? Many are in favor of the first, but I believe that the majority of Russians are closer to the second, but over 25 years the sprouts of total, Western egoism have sprouted and in terms of moral freaks, our period from millennia-old Russian history comes first. Let someone explain to me objectively and reasonably why communism is bad, only without liberalistic foam at the mouth.
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      Yes, it is nothing (communism, that is), practically, not bad. good I will say more - today it is the only correct socio-economic formation. I do not want to list the merits - there are so many of them that only the “thoroughly stubborn” ones will decide to enter into polemics. Why not discuss the flaws? Well, to stop them on time and "in the bud"? Leveling, for example. Learned well - earned a "hump" - get what you deserve! yes I wanted to build a house with a pool - yes, please, you earned it. For work, and payment, and all-all-all should be transparent. If you think carefully about the whole world - you can come up with such a system for one or two. BUT! - I repeat - complete transparency of processes, publicity without cuts, the inevitability of fair punishment - without this, nothing will come of it. hi
      According to the article. Thanks to the author, the viewer, as they say, is at the root. good Well, a little emotional, but who is without sin? wink Here, he liked it:
      However, this is nothing for our democrats, everything is like water off a duck. “It does not matter how it was,” they say, “it is important how they will remember.”

      Sound familiar?
      "How nice to be a bully -
      Frankly, I didn’t expect it!
      Trifling, one might say deceit
      Such a fear at all caught up!
      Chorus:
      It does not matter to be able to pass for.
      No problem.
      It doesn't matter to be able to pass for -
      And then
      Honor awaits you everywhere
      And worries -
      None and never. "
      Such a vacation ... hi
  5. Aleksander 9 October 2015 06: 20 New
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    The demographic losses of Russia as a result of the criminal coup and the rule of the EBN and its minions are about 25 million people (excess mortality and unborn children). But at the same time, there was still no civil war of the 1917-1922 type, typhoid and other similar things.
    One can only imagine what then were the demographic losses of Russia after the Bolshevik October revolution and its consequences - civil war, epidemics, hunger, Brest shame ....
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      The demographic losses of Russia as a result of the criminal coup and the rule of the EBN and its minions are about 25 million people. ...

      There was information about a decrease in the population in the territory of the former Republic of Ingushetia during the five-year period (1917-1922) by about 40 million people, after which there was a small explosion of childbearing, of course, except for the period of “collectivization”. On the network, all this info is.
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        Information also passed that apple trees would bloom on Mars. Sometimes at least turn your head on and do not read cutters at night.
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          Crying for the USSR? Well, please. That's just - he died, was not viable. Whatever the reasons.
          Enemies around? Why didn’t you become friends?
          "Pr-redali!" (it would be nice to tear off a shirt on his chest). Where are the traitors in number greater than on the other side?
          "Subversive activities of the imperialists"? Why didn’t it succeed to resist and undermine more? Wasn’t it enough?
          The trouble is that only good people are suitable for real socialism, and all kinds for capitalism. And the notorious “breakthrough” of the first five-year plans has the simplest explanation: those forces that the people have been accumulating for centuries have been ruthlessly spent on industrialization through slave labor, since there was no money. How was it organized? In addition to the direct method - the camps - was much more important. They ruined a large part of the country's population, forcing them to agree to an insignificant payment. T.N. "simple reproduction of labor." Was there a way out? Probably not. Is this a charge? No. Such super-efforts, overstrain, sometimes lead to success: a new economic structure dramatically increases GDP and allows people to restore power. Sometimes the price is too high, and the country, with visible success, begins to degrade. The farther, the faster. USSR - no luck, because after the monstrous industrialization was the Second World War. Do you want in the USSR? And your children7 Or grandchildren with whom they are already adults? You can not return to the womb, and seeks there - stupid. We need to build a new one, and this time, we have all the opportunities.
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        There was information about a decrease in the population in the territory of the former Ingushetia during the five-year period (1917 -1922 years) by, about, 40 million people,

        This is more than a third of the entire population of the Russian Empire with satellites ... Brains must be turned on, absorbing such "Old" ...
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        There was information about a decrease in the population in the territory of the former Ingushetia during the five-year period (1917 -1922 years) by, about, 40 million people,

        this training manual EBNi for 25 years, it’s time to put it in the furnace
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        It is necessary to include brains, absorbing such "Old" ...

        you can only include what is basically included lol
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          you can only include what is basically included

          I agree partially. You can include everything (hereinafter), only the result is not guaranteed.
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        There was information about a decrease in the population in the territory of the former Ingushetia during the five-year period (1917 -1922 years) by, about, 40 million people,


        That's right about the Martian apples. Read the late Zemskov. One of the few honest scholars of history.
        According to him, the combined combat losses of white and red troops did not exceed 900 000.
        The total population loss in Russia is slightly more than 2 000 000. And the main population loss in these 2-x million - diseases (typhoid, etc.)
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          ... According to him, the combined combat losses of white and red troops did not exceed 900.
          The total population loss in Russia is slightly more than 2 000 000. And the main population loss in these 2-x million - diseases (typhoid, etc.)

          Thanks for the numerical information, with reference to the author. I’ll clarify my data, according to the information of the Petrovsky Academy of Sciences, from a scientific report at the annual meeting. Total population loss by years:
          1918 - 1922 - 37 million people.
          1932 - 1936 - 8,7 million people
          1941 - 1945 - 35 million people
          1992 - 2015 are not precisely defined, but exceed the figure of 40 million people.
          Please, when you refer to a particular author, then try not to trust him absolutely, because he is not a free person and depends on his superiors. Remember the instructions of K.Marx - "Question everything."
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          ... This is more than a third of the entire population of the Russian Empire with satellites ... Brains must be turned on, absorbing such "Old" ...

          Let's try to turn on the brains together: in 1917, the population was 170 million people. Divide: 37/170 = 0,22 that is, less than a quarter, something like that. During the "Great French Revolution" and the subsequent Napoleonic Wars, France lost more than a third of its population, and nothing, still sings the "Marseillaise". Well, so who really needs “brains to turn on” and who they are.
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            Thanks for the numerical information, with reference to the author. I’ll clarify my data, according to the information of the Petrovsky Academy of Sciences

            You give Solzhenitsyn as an example.
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              ... You still give Solzhenitsyn as an example.

              This is already more interesting, that is, the ambush of the most respected in our country scientific community, socialist orientation, you allowed yourself to be compared with a foreign agent, and even one that the US president did not want to know, due to the tarnished reputation of Solzhenitsyn himself. In a word, they sailed, it's something. I myself participated in separate meetings of this academy and I have an idea about these people, I know what I'm talking about.
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      [quote] [/ quote] The demographic loss of Russia as a result of the criminal coup and the rule of the EBN and its minions is about 25 million people. It is precisely that [quote] [/ But at the same time there was still no civil war of the 1917-1922 type, typhoid and other similar things.
      One can only imagine what then were the demographic losses of Russia after the Bolshevik October revolution and its consequences - civil war, epidemics, famine, Brest shame .... quote] So, without great repressions, executions, gulags, they sent to the grave, but that's not all, destroying what the "gulag convicts" built factories, factories, these ki of liberalism, make us repent, what, that we have not died yet, "damned scoops"?
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      One can only imagine what then were the demographic losses of Russia after the Bolshevik October revolution and its consequences - civil war, epidemics, hunger, Brest shame ....


      Well, imagine what the matter has become? But why, again, are the Bolsheviks to blame? This is the Bolsheviks of the king, sir, gone? Of course, Niki # 2 themselves is also that butcher, but we are talking about the victims of the collapse of the Empire, and not about the victims of the Empire. So the claims here are just to the gentlemen of the large owners, whom it is now commonly called oligarchs. It was THEY in February of 17 that gave a good kick, from which the royal "bungalow", rotten to the ground, fell apart like a house of cards. But at the same time, they were not able to build power systems. The Bolsheviks, in fact, took power that was lying on the earth to no one needed. But what would happen if the Bolsheviks didn’t make a fuss then? If they had not stopped the “revolutionary” lawlessness, at least by the 30 years? Anarchy, chaos, anarchy and everything under the supervision of our Western "partners", but in general, would Russia survive without the Bolsheviks? Oh, doubtful.
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        The Bolsheviks, in fact, took power, which wallowing nobody needs on earth.

        From the appeal of the Central Committee of the party of socialists-revolutionaries “To all revolutionary democracy of Russia”, October 25 1917 Propulsion: “Comrades soldiers, sailors, workers and peasants! The party of Bolsheviks occupied the banks, stations, state institutions in Petrograd with their detachments. She is trying to capture armed power state power.

        The Central Committee of the Party of Socialists-Revolutionaries, always fighting against the Bolshevik plan, considers this their step madness. Let the Provisional Government in the eyes of many be weak and unsatisfying with the great tasks of the moment, but before the convocation The Constituent Assembly remained only a month; and there all the people would decide who should own the power ...

        And so, at a time when the enemy is standing at the gates of the capital, when the right order of life is collapsing more and more in the country, when all attention, all forces should have been focused on the election of worthy representatives, the Bolsheviks are rising. This rebellion will undoubtedly delay the Constituent Assembly again. It will benefit the enemies of the country and democracy ...


        -That she, the assessment of contemporaries- immediately on the day of the coup-"madness". The very next day, the Don, Kuban, and Orenburg officially rejected the putschists, there were bloody battles in Moscow, a junker uprising in Petrograd, fierce battles in Irkutsk, thousands of victims ...
        But the most important thing is that the state machine-courts, treaties, laws, transport, councils, fees, in short, EVERYTHING collapsed, which, nevertheless, though hard, but worked in the state. On call Rescue Committee tens of thousands of government officials began to sabotage the orders of the putschists, sincerely considering them armed bandits, why shouldn’t they think otherwise? Everyone has their own understanding of the rule of law. Economy collapsed finally, then her “heroically” 13 years were restored to at least to this level ... Already on October 30, Vikzhel demanded "stop the fratricidal civil war"but the mechanism has already worked ...
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          But the most important thing is the collapse of the state machine — the courts, treaties, laws, transport, councils, fees, in short, EVERYTHING, which nevertheless, albeit hard, but worked in the state.

          The state machine didn’t work, otherwise the Bolsheviks would have occupied “numbers” in “Crosses” and “Petropavlovka”.
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          She is trying to seize state power by armed force.


          And who there resisted this capture of the “girl” Bochkareva. It is clear that they came to Zimny ​​with weapons. With the icons already went, 12 years before.

          -That she, the assessment of contemporaries, immediately on the day of the coup, "madness."


          Well, we have some "contemporaries" like Svanidze positively evaluate 90. So not an indicator.

          The next day, Don, Kuban,


          Well, let's say, not the next. Facebook was still not there.
          In fact, the establishment of Soviet power was almost bloodless. Blood began to pour later, with the outbreak of the Civil War.
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            Well, let's say, not the next. Facebook was still not there. In fact, the establishment of Soviet power was almost bloodless. Blood began to pour later, with the outbreak of the Civil War.


            Well, yes, only the telegraph was and therefore:
            25 October (November 7) 1917 of the year Kaledin made an appeal in which declared the seizure of power by the Bolsheviks criminal, and stated that, until the restoration of legal authority in Russia, the Troop Government assumes full power in the Don region.

            Although, of course, in most provinces they did not know what kind of beast such a Bolshevik was. As they became known, rebellions broke out.
            I emphasize again, after 5 days, the Wikzhel union demanded "stop the fratricidal civil war"-he was already going, unleashed by the Bolsheviks 25 October.
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          That's interesting, you deliberately write part of the truth, if not entirely true, or because of conscientious delusions. Let us begin with the treatment of the Socialist-Revolutionaries, beautifully telling us about the seizure of state power by the Bolsheviks. Well and name, who at the time of the October revolution represented the LEGAL power in Russia? The Provisional Government is the same impostors. as the Bolsheviks. But no one followed these impostors, but the people followed the Bolsheviks. Now about the "contemporaries". You name them, and at the same time, explain again why the people of Russia did not follow them, but the Bolsheviks. Now about the "victim". The fact that they were on both sides is stupid to deny. Just do not need to juggle. Repressions by the Bolsheviks were a response to armed attempts to overthrow the Soviet power, supported by the people. Or do you think that the gentlemen of the Social Revolutionaries, having seized power, would have acted differently? Rybinsk and Samara say the opposite. About noble landowners and capitalists, as well as Cossack generals a la Krasnov and Kaledin. I really do not say. They certainly would have been admonishing.
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            [quote = dmb] You deliberately write part of the truth, or even a lie at all, or by virtue of good faith delusions. Let's start with the appeal of the Social Revolutionaries, who beautifully tell us about the seizure of state power by the Bolsheviks. Well, tell me, who at the time of the October Revolution represented the LEGAL power in Russia? [/ Quote]

            Foolishly, it turns out that you have a monopoly on the truth belay! Why on earth?
            LEGAL authority then was power of the TEMPORARY governmentcreated by the Interim Committee legally elected deputies of the State Duma, who transferred power to the LAWFUL Emperor Nicholas 11:
            "After my abdication for myself and for my son from the throne of Russia, power transferred to the Provisional Government, on the initiative of the State Duma to emerge. May God help him lead Russia along the path of glory and prosperity.

            Provisional Government, in addition, was AGREED by the Petrosoviet itself

            [quote]] [quote = dmb] and the people followed the Bolsheviks. [/ quote]
            [/ quote belay
            And how did you determine this? Just because they “won”? Familiar motive: "good always triumphs over evil. Whoever triumphs is good" yes
            And the fact that it is possible to win also at the expense of wild terror-intimidation, the most cynical insolent LIES and DECEPTION (about the "world" belay earth belay etc.) -Do you know?
            By the way, where is the “victory”? Only 7 over the years, and Bolshevism, which would seem to have forever dealt with millions of “wrong” fellow citizens, “enemies”, disappeared WITHOUT a trace and, which is indicative, they didn’t even squeak, but simply indifferently even cawed at him, such beloved .... yes
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              The monopoly on the truth is not with me but with the truth. But you are cunning. After all, the statement of the fact without its legal assessment is followed by ordinary chatter, in no way my statement that the terror of the Bolsheviks was retaliatory and not forced to refute. That of what the Bolsheviks promised was not fulfilled by them, you also cannot name it. Your last sentence is only a testimony to your inability to lead the discussion calmly, for you, without knowing me, give me an estimate. I will leave it on your conscience, although I could answer you with far more objective and far from impartial comparisons. Well, let's go back to the law. The phrase you cited belongs to N. N. Romanov. Who, with the same success, could have approved the transfer of power to the King of Papuan. But his decree as a monarch about the dissolution of the Duma was not canceled by anyone. So with all my disrespect for the poor Nika impostors, they are pure water, and the consent of the Petrograd Soviet does not sanctify them at all, since it consisted mainly of the Social Revolutionaries, hence their screeching about usurpation.
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                Quote: dmb
                But his Decree as a monarch on the dissolution of the Duma was not canceled by anyone. So with all my disrespect for poor Nicky, the impostors are pure water, and the consent of the Petrosoviet does not sanctify them at all, because it consisted mainly of the Social Revolutionaries, hence their yelling about usurpation.

                How you can write about what you do not know is not clear:
                -25 February 1917 years Emperor Nicholas II signed a decree on termination of employment Duma until April of the same year, where is the dissolution ?. The Duma was dissolved by 6 on October 1917 by the Provisional Government;
                -1 (14) March at an expanded meeting of the Provisional Committee of the Duma with the participation of the Central Committee of the Constitutional Democratic Party and the Bureau of the Progressive Bloc [4], as well representatives of the Petrograd Soviet of Workers 'and Soldiers' Deputies wink the composition of the first government cabinet was agreed, the formation of which was announced the next day, the chairman of the cabinet -Lviv.
                -before his abdication The Emperor Nicholas II signed March 2 1917 years decree on the appointment of the new head of government of the prince Of Lviv. This decree created legitimate basis to transfer power from the cabinet of the tsarist government to the cabinet of the Provisional Government. yes
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                Your last phrase indiscriminately testifies only to your inability to lead the discussion calmly, for you, without knowing me, give me an assessment.

                You do not know the meaning of the word “rating” (I recommend Dahl). I’ve never insulted you, I didn’t offend you, and in this phrase I didn’t even contact you (there is a third party) yes
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          -That she, the assessment of contemporaries, immediately on the day of the coup, "madness." The very next day, the Don, Kuban, and Orenburg officially rejected the putschists, there were bloody battles in Moscow, a junker uprising in Petrograd, fierce battles in Irkutsk, thousands of victims ...


          Do you want a brother, read A Courland. But in vain.
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    4. victor50 9 October 2015 10: 09 New
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      EBN coup is criminal ?! Consequently, the Bolshevik coup is legal (not criminal)? Do you know how a coup differs from a revolution? Where do you get these moronic numbers?
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        Riot never ends in luck
        When he won, his name is different ....
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        But how does the coup differ from revolution?

        There are no revolutions. There are well-veiled coups.
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  6. Vovan 73 9 October 2015 06: 22 New
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    EDRO - a bunch of bastards. A recent case, again in our Irkutsk this convincingly proves. Mama’s deputy, by the name of Eseva, withdrew her application for voluntary resignation after her daughter killed two people in a drunken stupor on the street. Baikal, rammed the highlander peacefully standing at the traffic lights. In Soviet times, for such antics, even a statement would not require a party membership card on the table and went out. And here ..... the owners agree on their own word, they want to give, they want to take it back.
    1. Uncle Joe 9 October 2015 17: 12 New
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      EDRO - a bunch of bastards
      Kobzon, Joseph Davydovich - deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the II — VI convocations, party "United Russia".

      AIF Health No. 35 27/08/2015
      “After the cancer operation in Germany, I said:“ Never in my life will I be treated abroad again! We have our own medicine at a decent level ... "

      Joseph Kobzon: I will answer for myself: when I receive letters asking me to find several tens of thousands of dollars or euros in order to have someone perform an operation in Germany or Switzerland, I refuse.

      - Why ?!

      - I believe that at present, Russian medicine is at a very high professional level.
      http://www.aif.ru/culture/person/iosif_kobzon_ot_otchayaniya_menya_spasla_zhena


      07.07.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX Kobzon hopes for Putin's help if he has to be treated abroad
      http://ria.ru/culture/20150707/1119414949.html


      President Vladimir Putin has helped MP Joseph Kobzon, a defendant in the European sanctions list, obtain a visa to the European Union. Kobzon appealed to the president on the need for a medical visa
      http://www.rbc.ru/society/28/08/2015/55e0a6d59a7947239a8551fe
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      EDRO - a bunch of bastards

      There are no others in politics.
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  7. A1L9E4K9S 9 October 2015 06: 30 New
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    The author, apparently, is an ardent opponent of EP.


    And who in Russia is still not clear to us that United Russia is a party of criminals that seized power in Russia and has long turned into an organized crime group.
    1. BMW
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      The question is, who is leading this organized crime group into a brighter future?
      1. Tambov Wolf 9 October 2015 12: 07 New
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        Like, someone DAM with comrades, and above them all -... shhh, but now ....
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          Quote: Tambov Wolf
          Like, someone DAM with comrades, and above them all -... shhh, but now ....

          In general, it is somehow unclear whether it is above them, or they are on top of it, but the main thing is that the result does not change. As it was all in shit and left
    2. NordUral 9 October 2015 10: 18 New
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      I have been saying this for a long time. Criminals skillfully using our patience and patriotism.
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        Criminals skillfully using our patience and patriotism.
        Not patience, but stupidity, cowardice, laziness and selfishness.
        Not patriotism, but quasi-patriotism, covering up stupidity, cowardice, laziness and selfishness.
        1. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 18: 05 New
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          Uncle Joe
          Not patriotism, but quasi-patriotism, covering up stupidity, cowardice, laziness and selfishness


          .... Yes, we did not last long Khadarkovsky Yes Berezovsky ...... endured ...... and over there the bourgeoisie warmed .... now we are going to learn going .... belay
  8. V.ic 9 October 2015 06: 56 New
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    And if by reason, the author did not lie, and I agree with him!
  9. Anatole Klim 9 October 2015 07: 09 New
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    The results of the elections have always been astounding, “EP” wins everywhere, exceptions are very rare. Zyuganov and Zhirinovsky will shout in the Duma about violations and again quiet, but smooth. After the election, you begin to ask relatives, friends, acquaintances, 10-15 percent voted for "EP", I think this is their real rating. Well, for officials, "EP" is his mother, for the rest, stepmother. Is Churov to blame for everything, or maybe everyone just needs to go to the polls?
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      It is for everyone to walk. We don’t walk, and we get what we have. And these guys, through the corrupt scribblers, all tell us that go, do not go - everything is in vain. And we believe. And you just have to go to the polls and vote, thinking before that. And we will see the result. Massively you will not lie.
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        And you just have to go to the polls and vote, thinking before that. And we will see the result. Massively you will not lie.

        But after all they walked, and then, indignant at the cynical calculation in favor, er took to the streets, so what? now these ordinary people are “marsh” and “white-bellies” ...
        Understand treachery, cynicism, rampant greed just can not be defeated.
    2. Vovan 73 9 October 2015 16: 38 New
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      I will tell you so. Take a look at our example. An example of Irkutsk. We drove a heap in the first round. Yes, we did not have enough turnout in the first round to ride it right away. But we, communists and sympathizers, were enough for the first start. and then ...... then the people understood. something is wrong here. Well, along the way, we explained that one vote solves a lot. As a result, against 27% of turnout in the first round, we made a turnout of 44% in the second. And that’s it !!! Edrisnya could not draw anything on heroch. Well, plus, of course, the total control of election commissions. I myself was in control at TIK. When they started to bring the results. I set up the process in such a way that my data was earlier than that of the chairman of the commission. that is, I saw protocols from precinct commissions earlier (while they were still in the queue). Like this . And I myself heard how the chairman of the TEC spoke to a comrade in the receiver. I can’t do anything. the Communists overtook us in full.
      1. EGOrkka 10 October 2015 06: 31 New
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        Take a look at our example ....


        ..... brains do not fuck !!!! The Communists still need to prove to the people, that they came to power for him, but they have already gone crazy !!! YOUR leader has not ambiguously stated that he will not pursue the "eroha" for theft from the budget !!! And given that your communist mayor is a bribe taker !!!! then the governor will not be of much use ...... but maybe I'm wrong ??? and Levchenko will stop taking bribes? And if not, more than one period -NOT WILL LAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi
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      .... look at the election data of the Irkutsk region ....... not always .... winked
  10. Bayonet 9 October 2015 07: 20 New
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    "Provide 10 percent, and capital agrees to every application ..."
    For 10%, domestic capital does not lift a finger! We have a different appetitehi
    1. edmed 9 October 2015 08: 12 New
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      I agree, from the conversation, "You cho, 3 prices did not beat off, you sucker sucker!"
      1. tasha 9 October 2015 08: 34 New
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        Wow ... Three prices. You there, by chance, did not eavesdrop, what kind of business is this? I want to take part.
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          I won’t tell you business, but by the “positions” in the neighboring town, the latch for the blinds, such a “plastic” with a magnet on the Velcro -100r. in ours, in the window small box-450r, in a small shop nearby, a can of canned goods-42r, on the contrary -76, is the same, up to the date of manufacture. Generally, look and find wink
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            You can, however, be disingenuous about the can. Trade margin 200-300% takes place to be piece goods, such as furniture. And the transport costs are rather big, and it takes up a lot of space. One or two sales need to recapture the cost per month. As for the products, in the current competition the maximum is 20-30. Minus the costs and the tail remains for nothing ...
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              However, you are disingenuous about a can of canned food. Unfortunately, this is the case, but I will not convince you of my innocence, just look closely at the prices in the stores carefully. In the heyday of “stalls,” the price range was striking, until the person involved in this matter explained “There is a public or unspoken agreement, for example, I have a soda can in my neighbor’s 2p, but my neighbor’s bar is 1r, and I have 2”
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                Curiosity for the sake of truth, investigate why it happened with the same banks.
                Well, the agreements of the heyday of the "stalls" are, in my opinion, fairy tales. Just at that time who could buy where and the pricing was on the principle of half-finger-ceiling. Snickers divided into five parts ... Eh ...
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                  Forgive me, but I’ll answer “I need it”, this is to investigate the pricing of canned food, there is a fact and I constant it. But about the “Snickers” for 5 parts belay , cigarettes by the piece.
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            .... was in Istanbul ... prices in the center and on the periphery are different at times ..... and no one jumps ...... hi
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              1. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 20: 58 New
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                the polar
                ... blow to Turkey.


                ..... I do not change my homeland for candy wrappers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! soldier
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          what kind of business is this? I want to take part.

          late, local elections have already passed wink
          1. tasha 9 October 2015 15: 44 New
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            I don’t get into politics. I have enough of my worries. And this is the problem! I am sincerely convinced that modern entrepreneurs value, love and believe in their country most of all. Without anyone there.
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            ... in the Irkutsk region they elected a communist governor, but according to the people there .... not because the communist .... And if he starts to steal like his predecessor ... in the next election ... THINK OUT !! drinks
    2. TAXR 9 October 2015 09: 35 New
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      Well, you gentlemen (and comrades) are indignant? The article, as they say, quite correctly reflects contemporary reality. What do you want? All the main figures, “directing and guiding”, “mobilizing the masses” did not spare their forces to build a just communist society, overnight turned into ghouls, starting with great enthusiasm and zeal for these very “masses” to devour. Apparently there was some kind of "flaw and miscalculation" in the implementation of the past "communist idea." Therefore, we now have in stock a complete, slightly corrected by Mr. PRESIDENT over the past 15 years of his reign. So far, it’s encouraging (to me personally) that all sorts of "talkers" and "disagreeing" with the party’s policies (EP) have not yet turned their heads off. You look, and they manage to come up with something (another, but more long-lived, isism), on the basis of which the country can safely live and develop further, without a destructive cataclysm.
      1. NordUral 9 October 2015 10: 25 New
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        With these, no. If they build a shed at the Vostochny cosmodrome for a rocket with a gate so that they cannot get through, what else can they expect from them. All that is alive is from the Soviet past, and from the momentum of 50's, then by inertia. But the Stalinist reserve was so powerful that there was enough for all the Nikitkins, Lenins and all the others. And now there is a degradation. I think - intentional, or rather malicious, and with loud fanfare about victories and achievements. And they use our patriotism and patience with might and main.
    3. TAXR 9 October 2015 09: 35 New
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      Well, you gentlemen (and comrades) are indignant? The article, as they say, quite correctly reflects contemporary reality. What do you want? All the main figures, “directing and guiding”, “mobilizing the masses” did not spare their forces to build a just communist society, overnight turned into ghouls, starting with great enthusiasm and zeal for these very “masses” to devour. Apparently there was some kind of "flaw and miscalculation" in the implementation of the past "communist idea." Therefore, we now have in stock a complete, slightly corrected by Mr. PRESIDENT over the past 15 years of his reign. So far, it’s encouraging (to me personally) that all sorts of "talkers" and "disagreeing" with the party’s policies (EP) have not yet turned their heads off. You look, and they manage to come up with something (another, but more long-lived, isism), on the basis of which the country can safely live and develop further, without a destructive cataclysm.
    4. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 17: 05 New
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      Bayonet
      For 10%, domestic capital does not lift a finger! We have a different appetite


      ...... and in general what business did you do in Russia ?????? ...... it seems NO !!!! YOU do not own either numbers or information! Empty talker hi
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        This is the problem that for most ordinary people, all those who decided to create their own business are hucksters and crooks.
        Sometimes I want to ask such a layman - What have you done for the country? Have you created at least one workplace? He who started his own business from scratch, every brick of the road is dear to him, he protects and develops it. And the responsibility for the people who gave the job bears.
        A state parasite is sitting, shifting from nine to six pieces of paper. His
        Is this country expensive? But it is unlikely. Does he leave this table and chair for his children?

        There are those who earn money, and those who receive money. Which one will you be from? Ask yourself a question ...
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          tasha
          Which one will you be from? Ask yourself a question ...


          .... the fact of the matter is that many ... they can’t do anything !!! take an employee .... and how much do you pay ??? ... not enough .... Moreover, always not enough !!! But the performance of their duties .... always a problem! It is even more difficult to find ... a working partner !!!! ... if you give money or an idea .... then continue to work .... to put it mildly .... problems !!! Tell me honestly, is there anyone among you who is ready to plow ...... 1-2 years at a minimum, while paying a salary .... to mercenaries (wage workers) ????????
  11. Volzhanin 9 October 2015 08: 19 New
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    Good article! I liked it. Nothing to complain about.
    And it’s not a secret for anyone that the United Russia has so much already outraged and discredited itself that it has become a gathering of marginals in the eyes of the thinking population (with very few exceptions).
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      I can not agree that the article is good. It is called "Notes on Communism," only a word about communism itself. So, more and more arguments from the category of "And you have blacks lynched" ...
      Me closer comment RU-Officer from 06: 44
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    You can not make a cult from food, nor from a person, nor from the party, especially if the party. Deficiencies and scoundrels are everywhere, but the party (or the party’s leader, which is one and the same, actively advocating for universal values, covers thieves and bribes (remember Smerdyukov and Vasiliev) can not claim to be one of the best (the best does not happen)! hi
  13. olimpiada15 9 October 2015 08: 41 New
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    Good article. To author 1000+
    The media are fooling the population to hide the anti-human essence of the modern world order, which has replaced the confrontation between the capitalist and socialist systems.
    The US desire for hegemony around the world leads to the mass extermination of peoples in "democratized" countries. To mask the inhuman essence of what is happening in a world controlled by a handful of financial monsters, shaking up of history begins.
    To highlight the hypocrisy of revising history, I will give a concrete example.
    Tsarist times. 20 centuries. A prosperous peasant family lives, all members of the family work from dark to dark, but barns are full of bread, horses, cows, sheep in the yard, seeders, winders, reapers, a bank account for thousands of gold rubles. The family father dies, 6 children remain, older than 10 years, she and mother become the backbone of the family. It is difficult, the family continues to live normally.
    Revolution. All the bread was taken out from the family, but they were able to survive. Then they dispossess and take away everything, including house.
    The house was returned on the basis of a response from Lenin. The eldest daughter got married while her husband went to establish Soviet power in the volost, his wife with 4 children was included in the eviction list, she took 4 children and left for the city with one chest.
    Soviet authority. The family is poor, to educate children is the dream of parents after all the shocks.
    WWII. The eldest son goes to war at the age of 17.
    Post-war time. The generation of children received higher education, left for distribution in different republics. Work as a leader is membership in the CPSU. The generation of children were all communists and as smart, fair people enjoyed the authority and respect of people (I wrote earlier in the comments, I respected the people).
    Grandchildren. They return to Russia as internally displaced persons, highly qualified specialists. Everyone returns, except for residents of Ukraine. They have families of children, grandchildren (4-5) generation.
    So, peasants = exploiters = defenders = communists = specialists = occupiers, in general, work, and there will be those who want to select and rob those who want it at any time.
    CONCLUSION. Why shake the story, in order to once again profit from the loot
    1. CONTROL 9 October 2015 11: 26 New
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      To highlight the hypocrisy of revising history, I will give a specific example ....
      CONCLUSION. Why shake the story, in order to once again profit from the loot

      More than half of the country with such "concrete examples" ... We live, however!
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      But another thing: I was repeatedly present at a sad event - the death of a person (I had to hold by the hand, along with the confessor), natural. And here is such an observation - the rich are dying with fear, you can see it in their eyes! and we, ordinary people - calmly, as a rule - with a smile, and this despite all sorts of pain and torment there ... It is also visible in the eyes ...
      ... interesting, right? another topic ... about the soul? but is she a soul? Someone said - a good person has it, and the rest - and rightly so, in its place there is one psychology ...
      1. Azitral 9 October 2015 16: 54 New
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        The vast majority of people at the time of death are unconscious. I’m telling you like a professional twice. As a resuscitator, and as a person who fought. Skzki is about a smile, fairy tales. Sweet creams. And the one who - under any pretext! - Especially for justice, it will require a coup, it must be eliminated. This is a clear enemy. Who is it that we especially shouted against corruption? Not Bulk? And under which sauces are all the color revolutions? Corruption and unfair elections. And the same Maidan? People, you are again driven up by a disguised masked riders. Be smart.
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      Good article.

      Once again: I agree.
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      CONCLUSION. Why shake the story, in order to once again profit from the loot

      I think the conclusion is not correct.
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        For which she gave an example on the specific fate of one family, because shaking up history cannot bring to the truth. The blaming of the past is not true, which means that the conclusions will be distorted, which will lead to new errors, where the innocent people will suffer and die again.
        Probably it is necessary to separate the specific results of each period.
        Here is the fate of this girl born in 1901. She really wanted to study and her father wanted to give her an education. But the tragedy doomed her to hard work from 10 years old and until the end of her life she worked from dark to dark.
        Was she an exploiter, from whom it was necessary to take away a house, property, cattle, all that she provided for the life of her family?
        There was a revolution and collectivization, it adopted a new system and raised its children as patriots of the country, was glad that the new government made it possible to get an education.
        The next generation studied, fought, who left to fight, graduated from high school and received education after the war. They also served their country, worked where the country sent, did not reckon with time, did not spare their strength. They belonged to a generation of communists.
        Were they tyrants, criminals of the totalitarian regime, as the shakers of history now want to imagine? No, but after the death, the generation of communists wants to blame what they did not do and forget that they really restored the country from ruin and created a developed state.
        Were these people their children, occupiers? No, they worked for the country.
        So what do modern history shakers achieve?
        This family was from the hinterland. Once, in Soviet times, we, a group of young specialists, got into a conversation and it turned out that all grandparents suffered during the period of collectivization, and these were people from the south of the country, from Siberia, the hinterland, that is. what I have told corresponds to the fate of the majority.
        And what is it like today to hear the descendants of this family left without bread at that time that their ancestors staged a famine in Ukraine and 20 families live in Ukraine today?
        What does it feel like to hear about the heroes of Bandera, if if I know what cruel crimes Bandera committed after the war on people, over their families, who restored Ukraine destroyed by the war?
        What is it like for me to read the whole heresy about the Communists, who were the best people in the country, remembering that I woke up as a child when my mother was already at work and fell asleep when she had not yet come from work?
        Crime before the past is always an application for a future crime. I have one question, with whose hands are these story shakers fed?
  14. Are
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    The author of the article is a man who is not indifferent to his country. hi --and he is not the only one. There are enough distortions in the state system and administration - only our country the size is not Monaco (or Luxembourg), you can’t fix everything right away ...
    1. TAXR 9 October 2015 09: 45 New
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      Not Monaco, that's right. But is there a desire among those who turned it all under themselves for something, somewhere, for someone to “fix”? As they say, "don’t tell my slippers" and "buy a cock ...".
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  15. ESS46045 9 October 2015 09: 41 New
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    I completely agree with the author!
  16. andrejwz 9 October 2015 09: 49 New
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    And, regarding the Romanovs, whose fate is so close to the heart of the modern regime, should I say a few words? Yes, they were shot, children were shot, but why were they counted among the saints? Why does the church so love to kiss their remains and earnestly glorify? I am not an adversary of the church, on the contrary, I am a believer, but I am abhorrent to servility to nothing outstanding representatives of the royal dynasty. Which, incidentally, are directly and indirectly to blame for the massacres of January 9, 1905, the punitive campaigns of 1905-1906, the Lena execution of 1912, and many other acts.

    For those who wish to object to the author from among the believers, not only in God but also in the correctness of any actions of church hierarchs:
    “According to the data for 1908-1910. the number of deaths under the age of 5 years was almost 3/5 of the total number of deaths. The infant mortality rate was especially high. ”
    ON THE. Rubakin “Russia in Figures” (St. Petersburg, 1912 edition): “... in 1905, out of every 1000 deaths of both sexes in 50 provinces of European Russia, 5 dead were children, up to 606,5 years old, i.e. almost two thirds (!!!). Out of every 1000 deceased men, 5 were children in the same year, 625,9 out of every 1000 women who died, girls were under 5 years old. In other words, a huge percentage of children under the age of 585,4 die every year in Russia, a terrible fact that cannot but make us think about the difficult conditions the Russian population lives if such a significant percentage of the dead for children under 5 years old. "
    What can we say about the number of children killed in the hard times of the civil war? But the weakness of spirit, namely spirit and faith, Nicholas, his infantility by type, broke his cup and hid, covering his face with his hands, which he showed through renunciation at the time of both external and internal threats to the existence of the state, along with other reasons, became the trigger of a war in which "brother went to brother." Is this not the highest sin?
    And his own and, I believe, beloved children, he defended his duty, neither as a man nor as anointed of God. So much for the "Master of the Russian Land." Having assigned him to the rank of saints, the church did not at all become a peacemaker for believers, but rather a participant in the political processes taking place in the country, fulfilling the social order of a certain group that had made its way to the state and media authorities. The believer is not pleased to write about it, but it is true, albeit bitter. A man is ashamed to hide in his hands - I don’t see anything.
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      They were counted as saints not for life, but for death. They were shot not because they are bad kings, but because kings. It was the execution of government. But does anyone remember that all the people who suffered for the faith — priests, monks, and just people who did not renounce Christianity — were counted as new saints? There are many thousands.
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  17. Dry_T-50 9 October 2015 09: 50 New
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    Where is the author of anti-communists found? Now where not spit-solid Stalinists
    That would be to send them to their beloved Stalin, so that he showed them how it was under Stalin
  18. NordUral 9 October 2015 10: 01 New
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    Everything is just like that.
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    Supplement of man!
    On vacation you need!
    It seems to be the right words, but somehow evil ...

    Anyway - Paradise on Earth without God is IMPOSSIBLE!
    As they said, I don’t remember in which movie:
    "People look like wild animals - when they are cold, they cling to each other and
    prick themselves with needles. "
    That is how it is.
    "Who is without sin, throw a stone at her ..."
    Everyone will answer for themselves, take care of yourself.
  20. Old warrior 9 October 2015 11: 29 New
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    My parents lived under Stalin - did not complain, on the contrary praised. Set as an example to all other Soviet leaders. So gentlemen, shut up. To hell, don’t wear this anti-Stalinist whine, listen. What better could you do?
    As for Communism, it still needs to be earned. And we merged the USSR in 1991.
    1. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 18: 10 New
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      Old warrior
      As for Communism, it still needs to be earned. And we merged the USSR in 1991.


      ..... primary sources must be read ..... according to Khrushchev communism ...... since 1980 .... so until 1991, 11 years lived under communism ...... laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
  21. Tambov Wolf 9 October 2015 12: 18 New
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    Shaw vi so mustache excited about EP? Let’s put the Communist Party in control and declare that we have communism. So what do you think? The whole EP will be communists, shocking with dusty party cards. And in the rooms the secretary general of the guarantor and the chairman of DAM will be hung. And in the kitchens there will be talks about how the bastards perverted the "Leninist" policy. You can mention, but I just want to say, boobies, damn it, the tsar heavenly.
    1. olimpiada15 9 October 2015 14: 26 New
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      That is the whole question that there are parties today, and the ideology of them is the same - serving big business.
      All of our ruling gentlemen are representatives and promoters of the interests of big business, and there are no others on the list of candidates for voting.
      But the worst thing is that our large business does not work for the country's economy - they are implementing the recommendations of the IMF, the US Federal Reserve, which the worse life in Russia is, the better for them. Remember the 90s, as the bulk of the people suffered, but the United States was happy: democracy came to Russia, a totalitarian regime disappeared, freedom of speech appeared. The United States will not be able to sleep peacefully if Russia works for itself, and not for them.
  22. vovan50 9 October 2015 14: 30 New
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    In the USSR (60s, 70s), the scientific profession was the most fashionable and prestigious, bearded physicists were the heroes of books and films, they were loved by girls, they were imitated by “young men who think about life”. Children were ill with Cosmos, they knew all the cosmonauts as a keepsake.
    There was a huge demand for physical engineers, mathematicians. It was the physicist in those days that was the modern version of the "good fellow." Each era gives rise to its own version of the hero of our time - and so then it was a scientist – physicist. The best, the smartest, went to physical schools, and then to physical. or mat. faculty. Being smart was considered fashionable. Many schoolchildren wrote out "Quantum", in the movies and on TV they showed the almanac "I want to know everything!" And the children really wanted to know. In the production of social organized. competition between teams. You can laugh at it, but the rational offers were coming from a cornucopia. Notice the type of competition, who will eat someone or go bankrupt, but the competition when the winner shares his secrets and skills with everyone.
    This must be restored, because obscurantism and ignorance are the last refuge of modern capitalism. This is not just a defect in modern society - it is its most important component. Without this, a modern market cannot exist.
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      There was a time, I agree ... ZFTSh, for example, do you know or KLSh?
      And somehow, suddenly, Gusev from "Nine Days of One Year" replaced ... And HZ who came ... And if the doctor of sciences after a hard day is in line or who is humiliated before HZ to buy a ball for his six ... So not everything is okay in the kingdom ...
  23. Indifferent 9 October 2015 15: 04 New
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    So that those who hold power do not scream, only the course of history cannot be stopped. Capitalism is doomed and now it has become clear even to the most dumbhead. So they arrange chaos and war in the world in order to hold out as long as possible on the wave of hollow anarchy, as the addict hopes, well, for one more, for the very, last dose.
    And our nouveau riche do not understand anything at all. Because they fell into power and gained wealth not at the expense of their labor and mind, but by chance.
  24. Gomunkul 9 October 2015 15: 31 New
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    Wow, it's hot here with you. laughing I agree with the author of the article, but let's try to analyze the actions of our president. At one time, I also thought that he was at the same time with EP, I do not like to write long, but I have to. I repeat that this is my opinion on what is happening.
    1. I suppose that V.V. Putin is guided by the ideas of P. A. Stolypin: “You need Great Shocks, We Need Great Russia”, hence there is no such approach as under I. Stalin, the phrase: “we don’t have 37 year."
    2. He distanced himself from the EP and organized the well-known Popular Front, the EP is headed by D.A. Medvedev, I can assume that he created a new version of the Oprichniny organization of the Popular Front. Demonstrative flogging is especially "frisky" arranged in public, others are "treading" quietly.
    3. To pay tribute to the president, he, as a skilled politician, balances on the principle that both “Wolves are fed and the sheep are safe.”, I.e. does not allow a social explosion in the form of a riot from below or a revolution from above.
    Surprisingly, he still manages to cope with everything, another question is who will come after him and what we need to be prepared for after he leaves.
    Best regards hi
    1. Uncle Joe 9 October 2015 18: 05 New
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      Quote: Gomunkul
      I assume that V.V. Putin is guided by the ideas of P.A. Stolypin
      You don’t even have anything to say. laughing
      Just remember - on the interests of which classes and by what methods did Stolypin (nickname "hanger") work, and draw conclusions ...

      hence there is no such approach as under I.V. Stalin, the phrase: "we are not 37 now."
      Hence the "Stalinist regime associated with crimes" and the "ugliness of the Stalinist regime", as well as the analogue of the 37th year, but not for everyone, but for those who do not belong to the big bourgeoisie or oligarchy.

      He distanced himself from EP
      And this “distance” (an idiotic word) is expressed in the fact that in all elections he is running for the EP, or in the fact that he undermines all the laws adopted by EP?

      and organized the well-known Popular Front
      ONF Central Headquarters: Govorukhin Stanislav Sergeevich - EP, Timofeeva Olga Viktorovna - EP, Aitkulova Elvira Rinatovna - EP, Batalina Olga Yurievna - EP, Bogomaz Alexander Vasilievich - EP, Bocharov Andrey Ivanovich - EP, Vasiliev Alexander Nikolaevich - EP ...
      And so on and so on - distanced itself, so distanced wassat

      EP is headed by D.A. Medvedev
      Which was once again appointed prime minister, for whom in 2008 Putin campaigned as a presidential candidate, whose work, he said, was satisfied, and who had been working with Putin since the 90s.

      I can assume that by organizing a popular front he created a new version of the Oprichnina
      I can assume that you are either stupid (you don’t have your own opinion and rewrite the Kremlin crap in your comments) or you are mean-spirited (you are a Kremlin clerk on a salary)

      To pay tribute to the president, he, as a skilled politician, balances on the principle that "The wolves are full and the sheep are safe."
      Such "balancing" is essentially an adaptation for personal selfish purposes - it is the conservation of the existing situation to the detriment of the interests of the majority.

      does not allow a social explosion in the form of a riot from below or a revolution from above
      That is, it preserves the situation (the essence of which is privatization, integration with the West, protection of the interests of big capital, reduction and monetization of social guarantees), not allowing it to be resolved in the interests of the majority.

      what do we need to be prepared for after he leaves
      The continuation of Yeltsin’s policy, which Putin now implements, and the fact that if the current leadership and comrades do not answer for this policy (like you), then your descendants will ultimately be responsible for it hi
      1. Gomunkul 9 October 2015 18: 54 New
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        and comrades assenting him (like you)
        And where did you see in my comment that I'm assenting? I expressed my opinion in which I pointed out that the president is pursuing a policy
        so that "Wolves are full, and the sheep are safe."
        which does not allow
        social explosion in the form of rebellion from below or revolution from above
        . I would like to listen to your suggestions on changing the current situation, since you don’t like the current political course in the country, otherwise criticize and advise all the masters, you tell me what to do wink hi
        1. Uncle Joe 10 October 2015 00: 32 New
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          Quote: Gomunkul
          And where did you see in my comment that I'm assenting?
          All your commentary is one complete assent - an explanation (opinion), completely at odds with common sense and factology.

          I expressed my opinion in which I pointed out that the president is pursuing a policy so that both "Wolves are fed and the sheep are safe." which does not allow a social explosion in the form of a riot from below or a revolution from above
          And they filed it as a kind of good.

          However, such a policy, which preserves the situation existing since the beginning of the 90s, not only does not correspond to the interests of the majority, but also directly contradicts the constitution.

          You tell me what to do
          To begin with, stop engaging in self-deception and deception of others, and recognize the obvious fact that the current policy is a logical continuation of Yeltsin’s policy, that it is carried out not in the interests of society as a whole, but in the interests of big capital and the oligarchy, and that in the existing system of social, legal and economic relations, with the persons in power, the hope of changing and improving the existing situation is stupid hi
      2. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 20: 21 New
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        Uncle Joe
        then your descendants will be responsible for it


        .... what you can’t get away from you is the love of passion ........ By the way, Crimea was Russian, now Russian and it will always be !!!!!!!!!!! And the Nazis, death (do not forget, do not forgive
  25. Uncle Joe 9 October 2015 15: 47 New
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    Not a supporter of any ideology
    Yes, you, my friend, is the only one: for the first time I come across a person who does not have a worldview and the underlying value system laughing

    It is stated somewhat clumsily, but the vector is correct - keep it up.
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      Set out somewhat clumsily ..


      .... you often stares at something for a complete selfless love for the dollar ...... then for the communist ideals ...... and you live nothing ... hi
    2. ALEA IACTA EST 9 October 2015 20: 10 New
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      Ideology is hatred wrapped in a beautiful candy wrapper.
      IMHO.
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        .... the time of idiologies passes! .... people are replacing ... people who may or may not ..... smile
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  26. 2nd 12th 9 October 2015 16: 22 New
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    I’m convinced more than once that it doesn’t matter where the written words “communism”, “red project” excite a wild number of opponents.
    Just like a red rag for a bull. Even "socialism" does not cause such arousal.
    We are still “living well.” It is interesting how the opinions of opponents will change with a deterioration in living standards.
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      In fairness, it should be noted that in the same way these same words excite a wild number of supporters ...
    2. ALEA IACTA EST 9 October 2015 20: 40 New
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      "Communists" and "anti-communists" are just waiting for a reason to unleash Wed @ cha.
      And where do people get so much hatred for their compatriots?
      Are we ready to pour tons of dirt on fellow citizens because of some kind of politics there? ..
  27. ma_shlomha 9 October 2015 17: 06 New
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    Gomunkul
    Wow, it's hot here with you. laughing I agree with the author of the article, but let's try to analyze the actions of our president. .......

    But let's try to analyze OUR actions during the last historical period of the history of Russia.

    After all, just recently, only 25 years ago, WE shouted at the squares: Down with the red-brown ones! Yeltsin is our president! - And the president became.
    WE VOTED VOTE for the Constitution, in which the power of the people is a declaration.
    WE at the polling stations VOTED for a man whose words "are cast in granite", and now here we contemptuously recall his nickname - DAM. And WE watched with emotion when he and the famous cabinet maker were sitting lounging in armchairs, while rare rows of still surviving WWII veterans passed through the square.
    And many of us put their party cards on dusty shelves, like unnecessary cardboard.
    And WE silently watched the television screens, like people loyal to the Oath of the Motherland, planted at gunpoint in the craters of the White House.

    Therefore, in spite of the fact that WE allowed everyone to do this to us ...... well, I join in the surprise Gomunkul:
    3. To pay tribute to the president, he, as a skilled politician, balances on the principle that both “Wolves are fed and the sheep are safe.”, I.e. does not allow a social explosion in the form of a riot from below or a revolution from above.
    Surprisingly, he still manages to cope with everything, another question is who will come after him and what we need to be prepared for after he leaves.

    Now minus.
    1. Sling cutter 9 October 2015 18: 20 New
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      Quote: ma_shlomha
      Quote: Gomunkul
      Gomunkul
      To pay tribute to the president, he, as a skilled politician, balances on the principle that both “Wolves are full and the sheep are safe.”, I.e. does not allow a social explosion in the form of a riot from below or a revolution from above.

      Yeah, very professional, so that the "wolves" were infinitely satisfying and comfortable and the "sheep" are constantly fooled and sheared to the fullest. And the "sheep" live by the principle: "it is not difficult to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived"
      Well, well .... "Why the herds the gifts of freedom?
      They should be cut or sheared. "
      1. Gomunkul 10 October 2015 08: 57 New
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        Yeah, very professional, so that the "wolves" were infinitely satisfying and comfortable and the "sheep" are constantly fooled and sheared to the fullest. And the "sheep" live by the principle: "it is not difficult to deceive me, I myself am glad to be deceived"
        Well, well .... "Why the herds the gifts of freedom?
        They should be cut or sheared. "
        Yes Yes. This can easily be seen, just drive along the central streets of big cities. Where before (in the 80s) there were shops, now there are banks. And the number of usurious organizations is like dirt. And yet, so that the “sheep” did not rebel, the law on the bankruptcy of individuals has recently been passed. wink
        PSYA the USSR is also grateful because censorship made people think and be able to express their thoughts so that censorship also missed, and people understood what you wanted to say. hi
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          Quote: Gomunkul
          And yet, so that the “sheep” did not rebel, the law on the bankruptcy of individuals has recently been passed.

          so that the "sheep" do not rebel with their duroscope, "feed" 24 hours a day without taking out wink
          And there are many “guidelines” for “sheep”: “where is the shepherd”, “how to graze”, “about pastures”, what can be bleached and what is nilza and how many “shepherds” should be present.
          And a miracle happened: the "sheep" hooves sparkled, the "sheep" sides glittered laughing, "bleat" with the herd choir what is needed, expressing their full willingness to give their horns, skins and little bodies hungry for "wolves" lol
          Quote: Gomunkul
          PSYA the USSR is also grateful because censorship made people think and be able to express their thoughts so that censorship also missed, and people understood what you wanted to say.

          hi
          Argonauts still continue to sail between Scylla and Charybdis yes moreover, the "golden fleece" no one even tries to protect, but
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  28. ALEA IACTA EST 9 October 2015 18: 26 New
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    There is no need to idealize something in response to dousing it with something.
    But in my opinion, all ideologies smell of rot ...
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    Notes on communism per se.

    Communism is a community of people based on conscience: everything else in communism is a consequence of the unity of conscience among different people.

    Conscience - a sense of the Universal Measure in the part not related to God's Permission; in other words, it is a connection with God who is.
    Conscience and shame are two means that allow an individual to become a person.

    The terms “the kingdom of God on Earth”, “socialism”, “communism” characterize the society of the future, in which the human structure of the psyche is recognized by everyone as the only normal one and which is reproduced in the succession of generations as quantitatively suppressing all other types of the psyche and dominant structure.
    1. EGOrkka 9 October 2015 20: 18 New
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      LCA
      Notes on communism per se.


      ..... you can recall Christianity ..... by the way it has been built for 2000 years, and what ???? ....... things are still there ..... and you are communism, communism .... fellow
  30. Straight 10 October 2015 11: 37 New
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    China is pushing forward toward global economic leadership. But China professes a communist ideology. Here you have the victory of communism on the planet! Russia will also be communist (do not even hesitate), now our authorities are working at an accelerated pace - they are compromising the existing gangster capitalism. By the way, our supporters of liberal capitalism also do not doubt it, otherwise they would not have diverted capital west to our "partners" at such a pace.
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      Quote: Direct
      China is pushing forward toward global economic leadership. But China professes a communist ideology. Here you have the victory of communism on the planet!

      China is pushing hard for collapse. One of two of them. Or their management system, which is unlikely. Or their economy, which is more likely. After a serious drawdown in the economy, China will take its place among the UGs and will develop neither shakily nor swell. Then soon enough everyone will forget about him. Other economic idols will appear.
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    Quote: Severomor
    We read "The Hour of the Bull", and to begin with, "Dunno on the Moon"

    The "bull hour" just vividly describes how the world exists under the rule of victorious fascism! And so that the supporters of liberal capitalism would not speak there and would not develop any theories about the degeneration of capitalism into a humane social sense and so on. etc. we see in practice fascism is the highest form of development of modern capitalism! The fact that the SGA is trying to impose on the whole world is the form of future technocratic fascism! And the very nature of capitalism makes it the fastest way to consume natural resources, bringing the planet closer to disaster.
    This is a consequence of the purpose of which the capitalist system serves - this, like 100 and 200 years ago, is enrichment for any purpose - everything is money, and man is only a tool in the hands of capital! Transform \ democratize to some extent cap. countries only had to threaten to expand the influence of the ideas of socialism, and not because it was inevitable. Such a transformation pushed the era of unlimited influence of transnational capital, but did not cancel it! After he managed to ruin the socialist system led by the USSR, thanks to the ideological stagnation in the communist parties (the teaching did not develop, which affected the economy) and, as a result, the leadership of the communist parties of most social countries degenerated into consumers of the ideas of the degeneration of capitalism, this is the most democratic Western society quickly began to degrade. This can be seen in the example of the rapid corruption of the moral of society through the introduction of the ideas of tolerance, under the guise of which the ideas of sexual perversions are introduced, leading to the extinction of human reproduction! Is this not fascism ?! Behind beautiful phrases, the power of capital deliberately swaps society for more convenient management. And everything is aimed at this - the film industry, supposedly free media, the false speeches of the presidents of these seemingly democratic states. If you do not stop the same processes in our beloved Russia, then in 15-20 years it will be absorbed by this very transnational capital and enslaved in the most terrible way! We will be avenged for so long resisting this debauchery. We must end capitalism in Russia! In the end, the monopoly of party power always corrupts, it is necessary to build a new socialist model of state organization! Scientists-economists have suggestions, but no one wants to listen to them yet! But it’s time, it’s time to turn to socialism consciously! hi
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    If I am not mistaken, the Americans invented the concentration camps during the war of 1861-1865.

    Crowds of fascists, besides the USA, also hid in Canada. It was the United States, Canada and Ukraine who voted at the UN General Assembly against the anti-fascist resolution. All other countries were in favor. Actually, at the moment it is precisely these three states that are fascist.