Russian Defense Ministry: The Turkish Defense Ministry has proposed the creation of a joint working group on Syria

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov said that the Russian military attaché from the Russian embassy had received an invitation to meet in Istanbul to discuss the possibility of creating a joint working group whose main task would be to coordinate actions and prevent possible incidents related to the territory of Syria.

“This afternoon, the Russian military attache at the Russian Embassy in Istanbul was invited to the Turkish Defense Ministry. During the meeting, representatives of the Turkish Defense Ministry offered to work out the issue of creating a joint working group of the Russian and Turkish Defense Ministries to coordinate actions and prevent possible incidents related to the combat task of the Russian air group to destroy the ISIL group in Syria, ”he said "News".

It is worth noting that on Monday, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that on October 3, the Russian Su-30 aircraft briefly entered Turkish airspace due to adverse weather conditions. Later, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said that the incident will not cause tensions between states.

Comments

[Stranger03]

I listened to an interview with an officer of the Russian Aerospace Forces; flights of our aircraft into Turkish space are not deliberate. There is a small protruding cape belonging to Turkey. At the time of approaching military aircraft at Latakia airbase, short-term approaches to Turkish territory are quite possible. For a few seconds. But as the military says, we can’t provoke Turkey. Sobs-but because they create a focal point. Well done guys.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Stranger03

I listened to an interview with an officer of the Russian Aerospace Forces; flights of our aircraft into Turkish space are not deliberate.

Just by chance Erdogan shook up

[Stranger03]

And it is also true. If earlier it was possible to drive terrorists to Syria with impunity, flying somewhere in a row, now the sky is covered by our aircraft and ships. There Israeli planes, as soon as they heard a warning from the ships of the Russian Navy, immediately back.

[marlin1203]

"Che-something, I'm about h to yu ... - You are not a boy!" The poor fellows got scared, there was an air wing of 30 planes in total, and they were already in a swoon by the whole "coalition".

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, if you talked like that ...))) So our pilots did not risk it in vain ..! Let the Kurds not touch ...

[jjj]

Yes, the Kurds are now not allowed to bomb. Yes, and the election campaign in Turkey

[The boat]

Quote: jjj

Yes, the Kurds are now not allowed to bomb.

how do they not give?

[Lelek]

Quote: vovanpain

Just by chance Erdogan shook up

B ****** e the behavior of the Turks. When we offered them the same thing, they rejected it, and now - here you are. When we offered them the South Gas Stream, they gladly agreed, and after 2 months they began to drag out the signing of the agreement. This behavior causes a BIG mistrust. So I (IMHO) would be careful not to deal with such a "partner".

[Oladushkin]

About the Turks. They guys are eastern people - they don’t perceive direct agreements. This is at their genetic level. They will always bargain. This is their norm of life. Not even from greed, but as if such a norm of decency. Try not to bargain to buy something at the market from them - they will despise and do not care after that despite the fact that you paid 10 times more than necessary.

[nimboris]

Where to go, well, Turkey is located in the right place. Volens-nevolens will have to agree, no matter how we treat them. The most difficult thing is to settle the contradictions, but that's what diplomacy is for.

[Alexey Boukin]

It is a reasonable decision. Ankara should have been softer to make statements to our ambassador about the violation of their state border by Russian aircraft. If we are doing one thing, then we must understand that isolated such cases can happen. But it seems to me that the point here is completely different. Turks, as always, play to their advantage, neither ours nor yours ... Otherwise, how to explain the militants' exit from Syria through the territory of Turkey? ..

[aleks 62 next]

.... flights of our aircraft into the space of Turkey are not deliberate. ...

... I don’t know, I don’t know .... There the distance from the airfield to the Turks is 30 km .... Point 4 of the turn in front of the landing line with the standard approach pattern in flat terrain is about 14-15 km, and if the airport is mountainous (or the mountains interfere) maybe closer (steeper glide path of decline - closer to point 4 of the U-turn) .... In general, some incomprehensible things ....

[V.ic]

Quote: aleks 62 next

In general, some kind of misunderstanding ....

Maybe so from the "start" to land so that the 4th turning has different coordinates every time?

[g1v2]

We must create it - at least we will know if the Asad Turks will fly to bomb. And by the way, they said that our moment29 took their planes into the sight. But moment 29 we do not have in Syria. It seems that this is some kind of Syrian pilot fooling around, and we covered him up, saying that our plane so that his Turks would not be shot down.

[Bombardier]

"Moscow" keeps the entire south of Turkey at gunpoint, and Turkey has a stigma in the Syrian cannon - involuntarily you want to create a working group.

[Buffalo]

"Polar bear" flies to Syria
Vladislav Shurygin
http://warfiles.ru/show-97039-shurygin-v-siriyu-letit-severnyy-medved.html

[Penetrator]

Quote: g1v2

We must create - at least we will know if the Asad Turks will fly to bomb

They will no longer fly, and so will the Americans. If indeed the Western coalition will coordinate our actions, we will divide the theater of operations in Syria into zones of responsibility.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Penetrator

parties will divide the theater of operations in Syria into zones of responsibility

Strongly impossible. In the area of ​​responsibility of the American coalition, ISIS will flourish in lush color. And then, this will automatically lead to the division of the country, examples - Germany, Korea. So coordination should not go beyond the exchange of intelligence (moreover, American ones can be immediately covered with cloth so that a hospital cannot be bombed) and warnings to Americans to get out of dangerous areas.

[mealnik2005]

"... and the American ones can be shelved right away, so as not to bomb a hospital ..."

Yes, and disclose your Old info after the fact - not even an hour will merge with ** and.

[KazaK Bo]

g1v2
We must create it - at least we will know if the Asad Turks will fly to bomb.

It is possible! But something else is more likely - having undermined the capabilities of ISIS in northern Syria, our VKS provide opportunities to take a breath and strengthen our forces in the COMBAT KURDS! And that means to strengthen their ability to create an independent state from the Kurdish resettlement areas in Syria .... IRAQ ... AND TURKEY!
Therefore, the Turks and decided to make friends with us, in order to prevent the strengthening of the positions of the Kurds!

[hydrox]

[quote = KazaK Bo] [quote] g1v2
Therefore, the Turks decided to make friends with us, in order to prevent the strengthening of the positions of the Kurds! [/ Quote]

Well, we should make friends with the Kurds: they don’t have any way without us, all of their lands were captured by ISIS, but if they would undertake to provide us with intelligence on ISIS (even if preliminary, for UAVs and air reconnaissance), then it would be good for us

[A-Sim]

If you want to do well - do it yourself!

[The boat]

Quote: hydrox

Here we would make friends with the Kurds

Choose your allies carefully. The principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is hardly applicable here. Why the hell do we need these smut in the Kurdish-Turkish fuss?

Quote: hydrox

Now, if they would undertake to provide us with intelligence on ISIS (even if preliminary, for UAVs and air reconnaissance)

do not make me laugh. Why do we need infa, which must be double-checked ten times? Something there is no trust in tribes whose goals are not clear even to themselves.

[veksha50]

Quote: KazaK Bo

in order to prevent the strengthening of the positions of the Kurds!

And the Kurds need help ...

At least, another ally will appear in this region, not like Turkey forever spoiling Russia ...

[The boat]

Quote: veksha50

And the Kurds need help ...

and why only the Kurds? Let's help everyone. And to hell with him that the PKK is a territorial organization, we will help, what's there ...

[V.ic]

Quote: veksha50

not that Turkey forever spoiling Russia ...

And if there is an "ever-shitty" Kurdistan? They helped Turkey in the 20s of the 20th century, in the 40s they helped the newly formed Srail ...

[The boat]

Quote: V.ic

And if there is an "ever-shitty" Kurdistan?

a plus)

[Sergey Medvedev]

You have to be more careful with these Turks. They will want security guarantees for "their" terrorists.

[Bombardier]

They are already taking them to Libya ..

[hydrox]

Quote: Sergei Medvedev

They will want security guarantees for "their" terrorists.

I don’t think so. that ours will go for it :: Turkey is full of ISIS infrastructure: training camps, arms depots, hospitals, corridors on the border ...

[beresa]

Turks worried, afraid.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: beresa

Turks worried, afraid.

Alexander, I think they’re not so much afraid, for the simple reason that they simply have nothing to fear, we don’t give a reason how much they want to streamline relations in this area. And I think that this is not bad at all. Turkey is a serious player in the Middle East and maintaining normal relations with it is a necessity.

Something like this, Dear colleague.

[Denis Skiff]

possible incidents related to the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria.

look at the Turks so that you are not included there. Incidents. Ha. Help us, help us forgive you, Turks.

[ssergn]

Turkey is a member of NATO, by the way.

[hydrox]

Quote: ssergn

Turkey is a member of NATO, by the way.

Actually, we are in a drum whose member she is, if ISIS is taking care of, but we know WHO ISIS is the owner of ...

[veksha50]

Quote: ssergn

Turkey is a member of NATO, by the way.

Well and then what ???

The territory of Syria is being bombed - illegally, so to speak - by a coalition of 60 countries, mostly from NATO, but this did not prevent Russia from starting hostilities in Syria with its aerospace forces and "smoking" NATO aircraft from Syrian airspace ...

[APS]

So there can be no disagreement between states having good neighborly relations. Yes, and this fact cannot be called an attack on Turkey, as one recently expressed it. If you want to fight ISIS, welcome, let's do it together, and if not, then let's talk openly about ISIS and your interests in Syria ...

[veksha50]

Quote: APS

So there can be no disagreement between states, having good neighborly relations.

What is the expression of good neighborly relations between Turkey and Russia?

In the treatment and training of militants in Turkey during the Chechen wars ???
In Turkey's "struggle" against the oppression of the Crimean Tatars ???
The fact that Turkey provoked and "threw" on the grandmother with the "Turkish Stream" ???
The fact that the Turks all these days demand from Russia to stop the operations of the VSK in Syria ???

And other, and other, and other ...

[APS]

Good-neighborly relations - this means that until we quarrel, we are tolerant to each other (they could, for example, shoot down a plane, but they didn’t bring down). We could raise a cry to the whole world for the balamutism of the Crimean Tatars, but we show tolerance, that is, we maintain good neighborly relations, and the Russians went on vacation and go to Turkey. So for now, Russia has good neighborly relations with Turkey.

[omsbon]

Sly position of Turkey - both yours and ours!

[rotmistr60]

Nevertheless, it’s better to negotiate than to play to the American tune, based on some violations of the air border.

[anderles66]

Approved. Any working contacts of professionals are much better than political chatter.

[Baloo]

Erdogan is the author of the problem of the overthrow of Assad. Do we need cooperation with the Turks?

[hydrox]

Quote: Balu

Do we need cooperation with the Turks?

Necessarily necessary :: Erdogan will lose the election today, and we still have a big game about the South Stream or the Turkish Stream

[Baloo]

Erdogan will try to use Russia in his interests.

[Sobol]

And better alone than with anyone ... Omar Khayyam.

[marl]

The process went ... fussed.

[veksha50]

"The Turkish military department has proposed to create a joint working group on Syria" ...

Your deeds are wonderful, Lord !!!

Only yesterday Kerry publicly announced his "greatest permission" to allow Turkey to shoot down Russian planes ...

It seems that the Turks silently agreed ...

And today in the morning they are already proposing to create a "working group" for Russia to conduct hostilities in Syria ...

Here it is even cooler: Bulgaria's voice suddenly cut through, and she expressed a desire to participate in the Turkish Stream (!!!), which in fact no longer exists ... And this after their own hands had ruined the Blue Stream project !!!

Hmm ... In general - how many people need ??? It was only necessary for Russia to show its teeth and firm hand for several days, as jackals swept ...

And about Turkey ... There is no faith in it and there should not be ... In addition to filth from her - you will not expect anything ...

Turkey is an enemy of both Russia (centuries-old) and Syria - in particular, the legitimate Assad ...

[x.andvlad]

This is a different, constructive approach.
It seems that Erdogan got cold after yesterday’s hot speech and decided to act without tantrums about the loss of friendly relations.
True, with all this, Gazprom literally today decided to reduce the capacity of the Turkish stream.

[mamont5]

Quote: Stranger03

provoke Turkey is not with us. Sobs-but because they create a focal point. Well done guys.

Apparently, the Turks do not need extra "troubles". This is another matter, otherwise they almost started preparing for war, they remembered about NATO.

[plow]

It’s like a second front in 1944. They will knit their hands and try to grab the tidbits.

[Mountain shooter]

Turks are eastern people. And in the east, only power was always respected. Wisdom was also respected, but power was greater. All in all, the mixed air regiment is working, and the whole world has already set in motion. Typically, there are not many sorties. Therefore, there are not many worthy goals, and the outfit of forces and means is sufficient.
Once again, one wonders what a powerful force modern combat aviation is with appropriate reconnaissance and ammunition. 500 kg of ammunition in the "window" is very strong.

[roskot]

This will be another stick in our wheel. Although it may not be otherwise.

[TIO1969]

Reasonable and correct decision. Complexity and understatement are not needed either by Russia or Turkey. One hundred percent, the military, if they discard political intrigues, everyone can decide. For Turkey, before the elections, such conflicts with Russia are definitely not needed.

[manguest]

Rather, the Turks will talk and agree than hysteria in the manner of b / Ukrainians with unpredictable consequences.

[sledge]

I suggest that Russian planes briefly flying into Turkey are considered tourists !!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Sanya

I suggest that Russian planes briefly flying into Turkey are considered tourists !!!

Aha struck where there are fewer people on the beach .. I took a "selfie" and returned to Syria .. (I gave the coordinates to my friends)))))

[vladimirvn]

A woman can accidentally fly in. Russian military pilot never!

[Sober]

Quote: Sergei Medvedev

You have to be more careful with these Turks. They will want security guarantees for "their" terrorists.

Our birthday boy, the last KGBist, as Brzezinski calls him, about "neatness" oh, as he understands. And Brzezinski has been waiting for many years for Him to leave, he says, then we'll get Russia ...

[vladimirw]

Well, the Turks changed their minds and stopped stinking

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: vladimirw

Well, the Turks changed their minds and stopped stinking

This is what the "life-giving" Drying does ... Let's make an agreement right away, etc ... It is so necessary with them!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Ignore my account is being hacked ...

[evfrat]

But who needs you then? Although you write the account correctly, with Russian words the situation is worse ...