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Russian Defense Ministry: The Turkish Defense Ministry has proposed the creation of a joint working group on Syria

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Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov said that the Russian military attaché from the Russian embassy had received an invitation to meet in Istanbul to discuss the possibility of creating a joint working group whose main task would be to coordinate actions and prevent possible incidents related to the territory of Syria.




“This afternoon, the Russian military attache at the Russian Embassy in Istanbul was invited to the Turkish Defense Ministry. During the meeting, representatives of the Turkish Defense Ministry offered to work out the issue of creating a joint working group of the Russian and Turkish Defense Ministries to coordinate actions and prevent possible incidents related to the combat task of the Russian air group to destroy the ISIL group in Syria, ”he said "News".

It is worth noting that on Monday, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that on October 3, the Russian Su-30 aircraft briefly entered Turkish airspace due to adverse weather conditions. Later, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said that the incident will not cause tensions between states.
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  1. Stranger03
    Stranger03 7 October 2015 10: 35 New
    24
    I listened to an interview with an officer of the Russian Aerospace Forces; flights of our aircraft into Turkish space are not deliberate. There is a small protruding cape belonging to Turkey. At the time of approaching military aircraft at Latakia airbase, short-term approaches to Turkish territory are quite possible. For a few seconds. But as the military says, we can’t provoke Turkey. Sobs-but because they create a focal point. Well done guys.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 7 October 2015 10: 37 New
      15
      Quote: Stranger03
      I listened to an interview with an officer of the Russian Aerospace Forces; flights of our aircraft into Turkish space are not deliberate.

      Just by chance Erdogan shook up
      1. Stranger03
        Stranger03 7 October 2015 10: 40 New
        +4
        And it is also true. If earlier it was possible to drive terrorists to Syria with impunity, flying somewhere in a row, now the sky is covered by our aircraft and ships. There Israeli planes, as soon as they heard a warning from the ships of the Russian Navy, immediately back.
      2. marlin1203
        marlin1203 7 October 2015 10: 40 New
        +3
        "Че-то я о ч к у ю ... - Да ты не бойсаааа!" laughing Перепугались бедолаги, там авиакрыло в 30 самолетов всего, а они уже в прдобморочном состоянии всей "коалицией".
      3. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 7 October 2015 10: 41 New
        +7
        Well, if you talked like that ...))) So our pilots did not risk it in vain ..! Let the Kurds not touch ...
        1. jjj
          jjj 7 October 2015 10: 46 New
          +1
          Yes, the Kurds are now not allowed to bomb. Yes, and the election campaign in Turkey
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 7 October 2015 11: 53 New
            0
            Quote: jjj
            Yes, the Kurds are now not allowed to bomb.

            каким образом "не дают"?
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 7 October 2015 11: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        Just by chance Erdogan shook up


        Б******е поведение турок. Когда мы им предлагали то же самое, они отвергли, а теперь - нате Вам. Когда мы им предлагали Южный газовый поток, они с радостью согласились, а через 2 месяца начали затягивать подписание соглашения. Такое поведение вызывает БОЛЬШОЕ недоверие. Так-что я (ИМХО) поостерёгся бы иметь дело с таким "партнёром".
        1. Oladushkin
          Oladushkin 7 October 2015 11: 09 New
          +1
          About the Turks. They guys are eastern people - they don’t perceive direct agreements. This is at their genetic level. They will always bargain. This is their norm of life. Not even from greed, but as if such a norm of decency. Try not to bargain to buy something at the market from them - they will despise and do not care after that despite the fact that you paid 10 times more than necessary.
        2. nimboris
          nimboris 7 October 2015 11: 12 New
          +1
          Where to go, well, Turkey is located in the right place. Volens-nevolens will have to agree, no matter how we treat them. The most difficult thing is to settle the contradictions, but that's what diplomacy is for.
      5. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 7 October 2015 14: 21 New
        0
        It is a reasonable decision. Ankara should have been softer to make statements to our ambassador about the violation of their state border by Russian aircraft. If we are doing one thing, then we must understand that isolated such cases can happen. But it seems to me that the point here is completely different. Turks, as always, play to their advantage, neither ours nor yours ... Otherwise, how to explain the militants' exit from Syria through the territory of Turkey? ..
    2. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 7 October 2015 15: 02 New
      +1
      .... flights of our aircraft into the space of Turkey are not deliberate. ...

      ... I don’t know, I don’t know .... There the distance from the airfield to the Turks is 30 km .... Point 4 of the turn in front of the landing line with the standard approach pattern in flat terrain is about 14-15 km, and if the airport is mountainous (or the mountains interfere) maybe closer (steeper glide path of decline - closer to point 4 of the U-turn) .... In general, some incomprehensible things ....
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 7 October 2015 15: 20 New
        0
        Цитата: aleks 62 next
        In general, some kind of misunderstanding ....

        Может быть так из "заводят" на посадку так, чтобы 4-й поворотный имел всякий раз другие координаты?
  2. g1v2
    g1v2 7 October 2015 10: 36 New
    +5
    We must create it - at least we will know if the Asad Turks will fly to bomb. And by the way, they said that our moment29 took their planes into the sight. But moment 29 we do not have in Syria. It seems that this is some kind of Syrian pilot fooling around, and we covered him up, saying that our plane so that his Turks would not be shot down.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 7 October 2015 10: 39 New
      +8
      "Москва" весь юг Турции держит на прицеле,а у Турции рыльце в Сирийском пушку - по неволе захочешь создать рабочую группу.
      1. Buffalo
        Buffalo 7 October 2015 11: 17 New
        0
        В Сирию летит "северный медведь"
        Vladislav Shurygin
        http://warfiles.ru/show-97039-shurygin-v-siriyu-letit-severnyy-medved.html
    2. Penetrator
      Penetrator 7 October 2015 10: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: g1v2
      We must create - at least we will know if the Asad Turks will fly to bomb

      They will no longer fly, and so will the Americans. If indeed the Western coalition will coordinate our actions, we will divide the theater of operations in Syria into zones of responsibility.
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 7 October 2015 11: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Penetrator
        parties will divide the theater of operations in Syria into zones of responsibility

        Strongly impossible. In the area of ​​responsibility of the American coalition, ISIS will flourish in lush color. And then, this will automatically lead to the division of the country, examples - Germany, Korea. So coordination should not go beyond the exchange of intelligence (moreover, American ones can be immediately covered with cloth so that a hospital cannot be bombed) and warnings to Americans to get out of dangerous areas.
        1. mealnik2005
          mealnik2005 7 October 2015 12: 27 New
          0
          "...причем американские можно сразу под сукно, дабы госпиталь какой не разбомбить..."

          Yes, and disclose your Old info after the fact - not even an hour will merge with ** and.
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 7 October 2015 10: 44 New
      +2
      g1v2
      We must create it - at least we will know if the Asad Turks will fly to bomb.

      It is possible! But something else is more likely - having undermined the capabilities of ISIS in northern Syria, our VKS provide opportunities to take a breath and strengthen our forces in the COMBAT KURDS! And that means to strengthen their ability to create an independent state from the Kurdish resettlement areas in Syria .... IRAQ ... AND TURKEY!
      Therefore, the Turks and decided to make friends with us, in order to prevent the strengthening of the positions of the Kurds!
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 7 October 2015 11: 01 New
        0
        [quote = KazaK Bo] [quote] g1v2
        Therefore, the Turks decided to make friends with us, in order to prevent the strengthening of the positions of the Kurds! [/ Quote]

        Well, we should make friends with the Kurds: they don’t have any way without us, all of their lands were captured by ISIS, but if they would undertake to provide us with intelligence on ISIS (even if preliminary, for UAVs and air reconnaissance), then it would be good for us
        1. A-Sim
          A-Sim 7 October 2015 11: 05 New
          +1
          If you want to do well - do it yourself!
        2. Das Boot
          Das Boot 7 October 2015 11: 59 New
          0
          Quote: hydrox
          Here we would make friends with the Kurds

          выбирать союзников надо осторожно. Принцип "враг моего врага - мой друг" вряд ли здесь применИм. На кой хрен нам эти головняки в возне курдо-турецкой?
          Quote: hydrox
          Now, if they would undertake to provide us with intelligence on ISIS (even if preliminary, for UAVs and air reconnaissance)

          do not make me laugh. Why do we need infa, which must be double-checked ten times? Something there is no trust in tribes whose goals are not clear even to themselves.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 11: 09 New
        0
        Цитата: KazaK Bo
        in order to prevent the strengthening of the positions of the Kurds!



        And the Kurds need help ...

        At least, another ally will appear in this region, not like Turkey forever spoiling Russia ...
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 7 October 2015 12: 01 New
          0
          Quote: veksha50
          And the Kurds need help ...

          and why only the Kurds? Let's help everyone. And to hell with him that the PKK is a territorial organization, we will help, what's there ...
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 7 October 2015 15: 23 New
          0
          Quote: veksha50
          not that Turkey forever spoiling Russia ...

          А если возникнет "вечно гадящий" Курдистан? Турции помогали в 20-х годах 20 века, в 40-х помогали новообразованному Сраилю...
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 7 October 2015 15: 33 New
            0
            Quote: V.ic
            А если возникнет "вечно гадящий" Курдистан?

            a plus)
  3. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 7 October 2015 10: 36 New
    +1
    Аккуратнее надо быть с этими турками. Они ведь захотят гарантий безопасности для "своих" террористов.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 7 October 2015 10: 42 New
      +1
      They are already taking them to Libya ..
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 7 October 2015 11: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      Они ведь захотят гарантий безопасности для "своих" террористов.


      I don’t think so. that ours will go for it :: Turkey is full of ISIS infrastructure: training camps, arms depots, hospitals, corridors on the border ...
  4. beresa
    beresa 7 October 2015 10: 37 New
    0
    Turks worried, afraid.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 7 October 2015 13: 20 New
      0
      Quote: beresa
      Turks worried, afraid.

      Alexander, I think they’re not so much afraid, for the simple reason that they simply have nothing to fear, we don’t give a reason how much they want to streamline relations in this area. And I think that this is not bad at all. Turkey is a serious player in the Middle East and maintaining normal relations with it is a necessity.

      Something like this, Dear colleague. hi
  5. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 7 October 2015 10: 37 New
    +2
    possible incidents related to the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria.
    look at the Turks so that you are not included there. Incidents. Ha. Help us, help us forgive you, Turks.
    1. ssergn
      ssergn 7 October 2015 10: 45 New
      0
      Turkey is a member of NATO, by the way.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 7 October 2015 11: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: ssergn
        Turkey is a member of NATO, by the way.


        Actually, we are in a drum whose member she is, if ISIS is taking care of, but we know WHO ISIS is the owner of ...
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 7 October 2015 11: 12 New
        0
        Quote: ssergn
        Turkey is a member of NATO, by the way.



        Well and then what ???

        Территорию Сирии бомбит - незаконно, если можно так выразиться - коалиция из 60 стран, в соновном из НАТО, однако это не помешало России начать в Сирии боевые действия своих ВКС и "выкурить" из воздушного пространства Сирии натовские самолеты...
  6. APS
    APS 7 October 2015 10: 42 New
    0
    So there can be no disagreement between states having good neighborly relations. Yes, and this fact cannot be called an attack on Turkey, as one recently expressed it. If you want to fight ISIS, welcome, let's do it together, and if not, then let's talk openly about ISIS and your interests in Syria ...
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 7 October 2015 11: 15 New
      0
      Quote: APS
      So there can be no disagreement between states, having good neighborly relations.


      What is the expression of good neighborly relations between Turkey and Russia?

      In the treatment and training of militants in Turkey during the Chechen wars ???
      В "борьбе" Турции против притеснения крымских татар ???
      В том, что Турция спровоцировала и "кинула" на бабки с "Турецким потоком" ???
      The fact that the Turks all these days demand from Russia to stop the operations of the VSK in Syria ???

      And other, and other, and other ...
      1. APS
        APS 7 October 2015 12: 13 New
        +1
        Good-neighborly relations - this means that until we quarrel, we are tolerant to each other (they could, for example, shoot down a plane, but they didn’t bring down). We could raise a cry to the whole world for the balamutism of the Crimean Tatars, but we show tolerance, that is, we maintain good neighborly relations, and the Russians went on vacation and go to Turkey. So for now, Russia has good neighborly relations with Turkey.
  7. omsbon
    omsbon 7 October 2015 10: 44 New
    0
    Sly position of Turkey - both yours and ours!
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 October 2015 10: 46 New
    0
    Nevertheless, it’s better to negotiate than to play to the American tune, based on some violations of the air border.
  9. anderles66
    anderles66 7 October 2015 10: 51 New
    +1
    Approved. Any working contacts of professionals are much better than political chatter.
  10. Baloo
    Baloo 7 October 2015 10: 52 New
    +1
    Erdogan is the author of the problem of the overthrow of Assad. Do we need cooperation with the Turks?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 7 October 2015 11: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Balu
      Do we need cooperation with the Turks?


      Necessarily necessary :: Erdogan will lose the election today, and we still have a big game about the South Stream or the Turkish Stream
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 7 October 2015 12: 19 New
        0
        Erdogan will try to use Russia in his interests.
  11. Sobol
    Sobol 7 October 2015 11: 03 New
    0
    And better alone than with anyone ... Omar Khayyam.
  12. marna
    marna 7 October 2015 11: 03 New
    +1
    The process went ... fussed.
  13. veksha50
    veksha50 7 October 2015 11: 06 New
    0
    "Турецкое военное ведомство предложило создать совместную рабочую группу по Сирии"...

    Your deeds are wonderful, Lord !!!

    Только вчера Керри во всеуслышание огласил свое "величайшее соизволение" о разрешении Турции сбивать российские самолеты...

    It seems that the Turks silently agreed ...

    А сегодня с утра уже предлагают создать России "рабочую группу" по ведению боевых действий в Сирии...

    Тут еще круче: вдруг прорезался голос Болгарии, и она изъявила желание участвовать в Турецком потоке (!!!), которого фактически уже не существует... И это после того, как их же руками был угроблен проект "Голубой поток" !!!

    Hmm ... In general - how many people need ??? It was only necessary for Russia to show its teeth and firm hand for several days, as jackals swept ...

    And about Turkey ... There is no faith in it and there should not be ... In addition to filth from her - you will not expect anything ...

    Turkey is an enemy of both Russia (centuries-old) and Syria - in particular, the legitimate Assad ...
  14. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 7 October 2015 11: 10 New
    +1
    This is a different, constructive approach.
    It seems that Erdogan got cold after yesterday’s hot speech and decided to act without tantrums about the loss of friendly relations.
    True, with all this, Gazprom literally today decided to reduce the capacity of the Turkish stream.
  15. mamont5
    mamont5 7 October 2015 11: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Stranger03
    provoke Turkey is not with us. Sobs-but because they create a focal point. Well done guys.

    По видимому, и туркам лишние "неприятности" ни к чему. Это уже другое дело, а то чуть ли не к войне готовится начали, про НАТО вспомнили.
  16. Arandir
    Arandir 7 October 2015 11: 19 New
    0
    It’s like a second front in 1944. They will knit their hands and try to grab the tidbits.
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 October 2015 11: 19 New
    +1
    Turks are eastern people. And in the east, only power was always respected. Wisdom was also respected, but power was greater. All in all, the mixed air regiment is working, and the whole world has already set in motion. Typically, there are not many sorties. Therefore, there are not many worthy goals, and the outfit of forces and means is sufficient.
    Ещё раз удивляешься, какая могучая сила - современная боевая авиация при соответствующей разведке и боеприпасах. 500 кг боеприпас в "форточку", это очень сильно.
  18. roskot
    roskot 7 October 2015 11: 21 New
    0
    This will be another stick in our wheel. Although it may not be otherwise.
  19. TIO1969
    TIO1969 7 October 2015 11: 22 New
    +1
    Reasonable and correct decision. Complexity and understatement are not needed either by Russia or Turkey. One hundred percent, the military, if they discard political intrigues, everyone can decide. For Turkey, before the elections, such conflicts with Russia are definitely not needed.
  20. manguest
    manguest 7 October 2015 11: 29 New
    0
    Rather, the Turks will talk and agree than hysteria in the manner of b / Ukrainians with unpredictable consequences.
  21. sledge
    sledge 7 October 2015 11: 32 New
    +2
    I suggest that Russian planes briefly flying into Turkey are considered tourists !!! drinks
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 7 October 2015 12: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Sanya
      I suggest that Russian planes briefly flying into Turkey are considered tourists !!! drinks

      Аха пробил, где на пляже народу поменьше.."селфи" сделал и в Сириию обратно..(друзьям передал координаты))))) laughing
  22. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 7 October 2015 11: 34 New
    0
    A woman can accidentally fly in. Russian military pilot never!
  23. Sober
    Sober 7 October 2015 11: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Sergei Medvedev
    Аккуратнее надо быть с этими турками. Они ведь захотят гарантий безопасности для "своих" террористов.

    Наш Именинник, последний КГБист, как называет его Бжезинский, насчет "аккуратности" ой, как понимает. А Бжезинский уже много лет ждет, когда Он уйдет, говорит, тогда мы Россию уделаем...
  24. vladimirw
    vladimirw 7 October 2015 12: 10 New
    +1
    Well, the Turks changed their minds and stopped stinking
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 7 October 2015 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: vladimirw
      Well, the Turks changed their minds and stopped stinking

      Вот что Сушка "животворящая" делает...Сразу давайте договоримся и т.д...С ними так нужно! bully

      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 7 October 2015 14: 03 New
        +1
        Ignore my account is being hacked ...
        1. evfrat
          evfrat 7 October 2015 16: 33 New
          0
          But who needs you then? Although you write the account correctly, with Russian words the situation is worse ...