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Analytical program "However" with Mikhail Leontiev, October 06 2015

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The Syrian operation of the Russian VKS caused obvious confusion in the ranks of the “old”, American, supposedly anti-Igil coalition. Because the ultimate clarity of goals, objectives and means of achieving them clearly contrasts with the vagueness, ambiguity and impotence of this American-Saudi coalition.

V. Putin: "This problem can be solved cardinally only by restoring statehood where it was destroyed, by strengthening the institutions of power where they are still preserved or reconstructed."

Our president has clearly formulated the task of protecting and restoring legitimate statehood in the region. And for starters in Syria, which is today a reference point of the conflict. Syria is a barrier stone that prevents the collapse of the entire region into chaos. And Russia decided to keep this stone, because no one else can hold it.

The Russian group of 30 attack aircraft of various types during the first 6 days of the operation made 120 sorties, destroying 51 targets. For comparison: aviation The United States and its allies during the period from June 2014 to September 2015 made almost 57 thousand sorties on seven thousand targets.

Note that the actions of Russia, very local, caused a squall reaction everywhere. While the massed operation of the American coalition had almost no reaction and had no consequences. Because the goals and objectives of its activities to anyone, by and large, are not known and not understood. As for Russia, here even the military technical problem is formulated very concretely: in time and space. This is support for the Syrian regular army offensive on the militant positions for the period of this offensive itself.

Konstantin Makienko, deputy director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies: “If we talk about the purely military aspects of this operation, you can see that there were no such operations in the post-Soviet time. At such a distance of hundreds of kilometers, such a large group is not even deployed in the post-Soviet time , and even in Soviet times it was not carried out. Thus, from a purely military point of view, it is obvious that the view of the Russian Armed Forces, formerly called the Russian Air Force, is now called will be acquired by the aerospace forces, will acquire just a new quality. "

The clear motivation of the Russian position is so attractive that it seems that even the Obama administration has got its charm. It seems that this situation is terribly straining the American "hawks", who actually brewed this Middle Eastern bloody mess.

“If the Russians manage to push their vision of the situation in Syria,” writes Foreign Policy, “for America as a world leader, the moment of truth will come. The European governments that have spent political capital to support Washington’s actions since the beginning of the Syrian crisis will face the question, and what if Putin totally right. "

And really ?! What if?! And where are you getting to?
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  1. SS68SS
    SS68SS 7 October 2015 06: 39 New
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    And Russia decided to hold this stone, since no one else can hold it.


    Like a hundred and two hundred and five hundred years ago ... Nobody could stop, neither Batu and his khans, nor Napoleon, nor Hitler at last. I hope that in Syria everything will be as it should. But a paradox. The more Russia tries "for the good of the whole world and the geyrops in particular", the more the same geyropets hate it ... stsuki are ungrateful ...
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      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 7 October 2015 08: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: Siberia55
        With DR karoch !!!

        It seemed to me, or are you inserting the same comment with photos on different branches? Though you change the words in places periodically, otherwise you get the impression of a chase for the pluses. wink
        1. DEMENTIY
          DEMENTIY 7 October 2015 08: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          It seemed to me, or are you inserting the same comment with photos on different branches?


          It didn’t seem! smile
          Hello Igor! hi
          Shoulder straps! General's epaulettes do not give life to live in peace ... laughing
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 7 October 2015 10: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: DEMENTIY
            Hello Igor!
            Greetings! hi
            Quote: DEMENTIY
            Shoulder straps! General's epaulettes do not give life to live in peace ...

            I already thought I’ve transferred, even the little Giant of a big thought disappeared somewhere. laughing
    2. andre
      andre 7 October 2015 08: 02 New
      +1
      And you didn’t know-the strong in spirit are hated by the weak, or simply envy to malice !!!!
    3. drundel861
      drundel861 7 October 2015 08: 15 New
      +3
      The man is smart, and the crowd is a large controlled herd (Geyropa), one closes all picked up. The Americans want oil free of charge, collapse exchanges. And here our swifts do not give crow freedom. Keep it up guys !!! Most of all, the Turks howl here, our great-grandfathers did not finish them all the time, angry
    4. Ivan Tucha
      Ivan Tucha 7 October 2015 09: 27 New
      0
      they don’t expect good from good.
    5. Robinzone
      Robinzone 7 October 2015 10: 26 New
      +1
      There is such a breed of people who are mistaken, will persist in their delusion. For they believe in their infallibility: others make mistakes. Therefore, when a crisis develops caused by their actions, they will not be able to stop this crisis without help.

      Therefore, they are ungrateful, because they blame us for their mistakes, because the Kremlin’s "intrigues" prevent them from having a full and calm life.

      So it goes.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 7 October 2015 06: 39 New
    +7
    For comparison: the aviation of the United States and its allies during the period from June 2014 to September 2015 made almost 57 thousand sorties on seven thousand targets.
    I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?
    1. satris
      satris 7 October 2015 06: 47 New
      +4
      And they made several visits to these goals.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 7 October 2015 09: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: satris
        And they made several visits to these goals.

        A simple thing :: The number of departures is not equal to the number of calls !!!
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 7 October 2015 06: 49 New
      +1
      Excavators were in Syria, and the hospital in Afghanistan, a little aloof. ZhPS fails Americans?
    3. Name
      Name 7 October 2015 06: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?

      Near the city of Al-Hasak, three tactical units, three buildings, a firing position were destroyed as a result of three attacks, and, as the report says, - "Motorcycle" fighters. hi A motorcycle is a special pride ...
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 7 October 2015 07: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: name
        Near the city of al-Hasaka as a result three beats [US aviation and its allies] destroyed three tactical units three buildings, firing position and, as the summary says,

        Yeah. Reminds: overwork ... three domestic tape recorders, three suede jackets ..
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 7 October 2015 09: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: name
        A motorcycle is a special pride ...


        And how can they not be proud of?
        So you yourself try guided by a bomb worth $ 300 thousand to destroy a bike at the price of $ 200 with a flight price of $ 10 thousand and you will immediately lose the desire to race with the KAB for bikes - but the Yankees do not care !!! Such well-done servants!
    4. Homo
      Homo 7 October 2015 07: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?

      Motorcycle.
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 7 October 2015 07: 23 New
        +4
        Quote: Homo
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?
        Motorcycle.

        The wedding still killed one and a half hundred people ..
        1. Oleg Sobol
          Oleg Sobol 7 October 2015 12: 11 New
          0
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          The wedding still killed one and a half hundred people ..

          The wedding of the Saudis in Yemen was "covered" ... What are the "teachers", such are the "students" ...
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 October 2015 07: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: Homo
        Motorcycle.

        Well this is already something.
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        The wedding still killed one and a half hundred people ..

        Oh yes, these are collateral losses when destroying a motorcycle.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 7 October 2015 09: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Oh yes, these are collateral losses when destroying a motorcycle.

          It’s just that the whole wedding was riding this motorcycle ... ;-))
    5. aleks700
      aleks700 7 October 2015 08: 34 New
      +1
      I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?
      The desert is large, for sure there will be stones of the corresponding size. That’s the target.
    6. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 7 October 2015 08: 58 New
      +2
      The Syrian desert is big - to bomb, not to bomb! :)
    7. hydrox
      hydrox 7 October 2015 09: 15 New
      +1
      It doesn’t matter to the Amers what results were achieved during the bombing (no one will ever check this (and will never check!)), It’s important for them to report how many ammunition they burned. So, if we assume that 1 ton of guided missile ammunition is used for one combat mission, then this means that 100 thousand tons of ammunition were burned at a cost of about $ 200 thousand / ton (in terms of guided bombs), i.e. $ 20 billion
      Something in my head does not fit such a figure ...
    8. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 7 October 2015 09: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?

      ISIS terrorist sand was bombed heroically, bombs and missile factories in the U.S. operate in three shifts, unemployment has declined, owners have profits and privately support the Pentogon and Congress, ISIS paid for its safety with oil, everything was fine until the Russians arrived.
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  3. Nymp
    Nymp 7 October 2015 06: 41 New
    +4
    Michael, as always, is right. No matter what Russia does, it is always bad! An information war is waged against us in which we must not lose.
    1. andj61
      andj61 7 October 2015 08: 06 New
      +2
      European governments, from the very beginning of the Syrian crisis, spending political capital to support Washington’s actions, will be faced with the question of what if Putin is completely right.

      Putin is not just right, he is also Leo - a real king among the beasts of current international politics.
      And what is Obama then a skunk, Merkel is a she-wolf, Hollande is a sly fox ... bully
  4. Petr1
    Petr1 7 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +2
    European governments, from the very beginning of the Syrian crisis, spending political capital to support Washington’s actions, will be faced with a question, what if Putin is completely right ...

    And then no one knows ....
  5. Goga101
    Goga101 7 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +2
    The "+" program is short and clear. Without claims to any "new, original" fabrications, but in essence - true ...
  6. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 7 October 2015 06: 51 New
    -4
    "... V. Putin:" This problem can be radically solved only by restoring statehood where it was destroyed, by strengthening the institutions of power where they still exist or are being recreated. "

    Surprisingly, in February 2014, in Ukraine, a coup d'etat with human casualties, people who came to power was called an “illegitimate, bloody junta” for a couple of months, no one is in a hurry to restore statehood, and no one even utters the above words, although there was no blessing. ..
  7. Tatyana
    Tatyana 7 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +1
    Quote from text.
    Russia's actions, very local, provoked a flurry of reaction everywhere.
    Still would! The brazen world schemers - all neocolonial geopoliticians - all their profits on folk blood are covered with a "copper basin"!
  8. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 7 October 2015 07: 01 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?

    They didn’t notice that on every record where our bombs lie, there are already dozens of black craters around, but the most surprising is that the buildings are usually intact (before our bombs fall)
  9. valokordin
    valokordin 7 October 2015 07: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote from text.
    Russia's actions, very local, provoked a flurry of reaction everywhere.
    Still would! The brazen world schemers - all neocolonial geopoliticians - all their profits on folk blood are covered with a "copper basin"!

    It is difficult to be a messiah for a country that is fighting for the truth with the best of intentions. The bourgeoisie will not understand this.
  10. 76rtbr
    76rtbr 7 October 2015 07: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: rosarioagro
    "... V. Putin:" This problem can be radically solved only by restoring statehood where it was destroyed, by strengthening the institutions of power where they still exist or are being recreated. "

    Surprisingly, in February 2014, in Ukraine, a coup d'etat with human casualties, people who came to power was called an “illegitimate, bloody junta” for a couple of months, no one is in a hurry to restore statehood, and no one even utters the above words, although there was no blessing. ..


    Kakly just got it for 20 years, let them boil in their own sauce, as long as you don’t help them, you will still be bad!
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 7 October 2015 07: 36 New
      0
      Quote: 76rtbr
      Kakly just got it for 20 years, let them boil in their own sauce

      There is such a thing as a "sanitary cordon", if it is not needed for the Russian Federation, then let it boil
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 7 October 2015 09: 06 New
      0
      And no one helps them, they help the Syrians. Nor Russia, of course.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 October 2015 07: 36 New
    0
    If the Russians are able to push their vision of the situation in Syria, writes Foreign Policy, for America as a world leader, the moment of truth will come.

    For America, the moment of truth will come only when she realizes that as a result of her actions against Russia, N number of strategic missiles are flying in her direction. But it will be too late. For those who believe that I am calling for a strike in the United States, I will explain - I had in mind a retaliatory strike. And listen to what American politicians are calling for.
  12. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 7 October 2015 08: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: Nymp
    No matter what Russia does, it is always bad! An information war is waged against us in which we must not lose.


    It’s not only the information war, but the real action of erasing the state and people with the name Russia from the face of the Earth and it’s time for us to understand this, the question has been posed with an edge, will Russia live in the future, or will disappear.
  13. SPACE
    SPACE 7 October 2015 08: 17 New
    +3
    The internal disassembly in Syria between the legitimate authorities and the rebels at a certain point from the point of view of the interests of the United States came to a temporary standstill, and from the point of view of the interests of Russia, Assad got a chance and he really could do it on his own. The State Department was forced to adhere to the letter of the law, the Russian veto at that time would not have allowed the United States and satellites to squeeze Assad directly. Therefore, the active actions of the United States and Russia in the legal field have reached an impasse, but time has worked for Syria. This could suit the United States, probably not, but what could they do and how to influence the situation without going beyond legal action? The answer is obvious, it is necessary to find or create a force through the controlled structures that is not bound by any laws, secretly for the world and including this force itself, to arm it, for example, in Iraq, which it controls and direct, and which finally can digest Assad, but at the same time reformat the given geopolitical and information space, until the moment at which the situation again comes to the level of the legitimate use of their own forces to counter terrorism, to clean up the Middle East already s dissent in their favor. Moreover, no one will be able to prevent them, including Russia, which will not go against public opinion and will not impose a veto. The Kremlin leadership, understanding where everything is heading, lurked and, like the United States, was waiting for its moment when world public opinion regarding the aggression of the igles ripened, after which, under its cover, it instantly intercepts the initiative from the United States, thereby completely violating their plan, using a legitimate request as an excuse the Syrian legitimate authorities for help, and even worse, they simply set the United States under its own propagandized public opinion and the inability to apply its own veto. It is from this that the United States experienced temporary shock and lack of coordination, fell into time pressure.
  14. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 7 October 2015 09: 05 New
    +2
    "It is from this that the United States suffered a temporary shock and a lack of coordination in time trouble"

    They got used to steer alone, and the second helmsman steered them into a stupor. When you have only heard your voice for thirty years, any other voice is perceived as a nightmare. Especially if it is the voice of Russia.
  15. solovald
    solovald 7 October 2015 09: 19 New
    -1
    "... support for the Syrian regular army’s offensive on the positions of militants for the period of this offensive itself ..." And where, in fact, is this offensive itself? Where are the results of ground operations against the backdrop of Russian aviation? Quietly somehow in the media on this issue.
    1. The Chat
      The Chat 7 October 2015 10: 07 New
      +2
      You directly want the offensive to begin in half an hour.
      There is no need to rush, first grind manpower and supply depots, and then advance.
      Their (Syrian) soldiers must be protected.
      But ammunition with an expiring shelf life does not need to be protected, and it’s not a sin to train personnel about the little war game. And then a big war is already outlined. But if a potential adversary realizes that not the whole army of Russia was crushed by valiant dill in the battles near Ilovaisk, then it is still worried to establish democracy and human rights in us (American people by itself).
    2. kill the fascist
      kill the fascist 7 October 2015 10: 17 New
      +1
      Why rush? I think that the plan is this: the Russian Aerospace Forces are routinely destroying the infrastructure of ISIS and those who have joined, and the Assad troops, Iranians and Kurds are preparing, mastering the newly delivered equipment (under the guidance of instructors). When the enemy is exhausted they will strike — offensive operations will begin. This is not a fight in the ring, the weaker your opponent the better.
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  16. Naum
    Naum 7 October 2015 11: 00 New
    +1
    This hysteria occurs because the Russians dared absolutely legitimately disrupt the American-style play of "struggle" with the Islamic State, whose sole purpose was to cover up the growing chaos in the Middle East. They need it for purely selfish motives: to catch their oil-gas "goldfish" in the muddy "blood" of water. They don’t give a damn about the tragedy of the peoples, because (as always!) The rather Big Puddle also saves the distance from what is happening. It cannot be crossed on a rubber raft.
    Business and nothing personal. And too much.
  17. ram_design
    ram_design 7 October 2015 11: 13 New
    +2
    The bear woke up, in vain woke up. They warned you not to wake ...

    You noticed that all retired European, and even American politicians and military men of different levels, are on the side of the policy pursued by Russia. Those. as soon as they remain no destiny, they can truthfully illuminate the real state of affairs.
    And this means that a unified suppression strategy has been worked out against Russia!
    I won’t tell the news, but Russia is strong - nobody needs it!

    But drunk, all in debt, selling resources for a penny, torn by internal conflicts - this is what they want to see Russia!
  18. Val_y
    Val_y 7 October 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    Quote: Homo
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I heard about two bulldozers, I heard about the hospital, but what else did they bomb?
    Motorcycle.
    The wedding still killed one and a half hundred people ..

    I still saw a bunch of household buildings in the fields, with high-precision ammunition of 6000000 bucks apiece, as well as the fields themselves, somewhere in the net, so they just created ISIS and they themselves typically fought for 5 years, 200 lards written off or written down .. or ( the situation with 500 lyamas for training a little more than 70 fighters, of which 5 people were able to show, says that pin.dos with corruption are all nishtyak laughing
  19. Petrik66
    Petrik66 7 October 2015 12: 44 New
    +1
    In May 1945, Marshal Zhukov told Marshal Rokossovsky: “We have released them, and they will never forgive us for this.” What Putin and his entourage have done is WILD NURSiness in the American worldview. You can not stop, because the winner will receive everything. One can give an example of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877 - 1878, when England, Austria - Hungary and Germany became the beneficiaries. bombing ISIS - it will not work, they will flee to the cities and hide behind civilians, undermine their material base - well, then you need to hit the oil infrastructure and spoil relations with the Turks, although they are already spoiled. The main thing is to go to the end. We do not have many options, or we will make them afraid and take into account our interests, or again in the 90s. A step similar to "throwing into Pristina", but there was Yeltsin, now larger, more impudent, and not Yeltsin.
  20. Mestny
    Mestny 7 October 2015 14: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: rosarioagro
    Surprisingly, in February 2014, in Ukraine, a coup d'etat with human casualties, people who came to power was called an “illegitimate, bloody junta” for a couple of months, no one is in a hurry to restore statehood, and no one even utters the above words, although there was no blessing. ..

    The president of Ukraine (not this current clown, but that legitimate one, Yanukovych if anyone forgot) has been fighting the "moderate opposition" Poroshenko prepared and supplied by the Americans for 4 years now?
    No. Power has already been seized, there is nothing to save. It is as if Assad had escaped from the country, and in Damascus there would have been any bearded ISIS representatives or anyone else who had threatened Russia from there with a holy war.
    But he did not run away, but on the contrary continues to fight.
    So, in this case, statehood also makes sense to support, and, well, solve their additional tasks along the way.
  21. lecturer
    lecturer 7 October 2015 21: 51 New
    0
    Quote: SS68SS
    SS68SS (1)
    Like a hundred and two hundred and five hundred years ago ... Nobody could stop, neither Batu and his khans, nor Napoleon, nor Hitler at last. I hope that in Syria everything will be as it should. But a paradox. The more Russia tries "for the good of the whole world and the geyrops in particular", the more the same geyropets hate it ... stsuki are ungrateful ...
    God forgive me! But I will bring His words about us, Orthodox peasants, in the world:
    If you were from the world, the world would love its own; but you are not from the world, but I have chosen you from the world, therefore the world hates you.