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The riddle of the Russian language

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The riddle of the Russian language

The natural appearance of a language is a long and complex process that can go on for more than one thousand years. One of such languages ​​of mankind is Russian. Even according to the official (classical) stories Russian language has very ancient roots. So, the pre-Slavic language originated by the 2nd millennium BC, and even earlier there appeared the so-called. Proto-Slavonic language, which was still in the III millennium BC.

It is practically impossible to overestimate the importance of language in the formation of the self-consciousness of an individual and an entire nation, the entire Russian civilization. The Russian language is, apparently, the main factor that forms the national identity. It makes people talk, think, and even feel in a certain way. It is the language that helps to form a unique peculiarity of perception and assessment of the world around us, which allows the speakers of this language to be united in major world outlook questions. The richness and diversity of the language makes it possible to create a huge potential for the intellectual development of the people-bearer and determines the depth and breadth of Russian thinking. And we have inherited this invaluable gift from our ancestors - the Super Ethnos of the Rus.

It is the Russian language that allows us to look into the world of deep Russian history, beyond the horizon of that official history of a thousand years, which we are given in schools and higher educational institutions.

The word is, as perfectly beautiful Russian writer Sergey Alekseev writes, “there is an inexhaustible, generally accessible and at the same time the most closed and most ancient magic source ...”.

From childhood days and school benches, we are told that our ancestors were savage barbarians who lived in darkness and ignorance before the arrival of Christian missionaries in the land of Russia. This idea was hammered into the heads of the Russian people for more than a thousand years. But still, when a Russian person, for example, sees pictures of Konstantin Vasilyev or reads the works of art by Sergei Alekseev, Yuri Petukhov and other writers who could “dig” under the oldest layers of Russian history, they have a feeling of unity with the “world of gods and Titans "ancient era, which existed before the emergence of Christianity, Islam and Buddhism.

Unfortunately, the “classical” historical school of Russia and especially of Western Europe does not touch on these topics, hush up or declare false science, profanation, deception. After all, the Truth about the Genuine history of mankind will put before the people, the Russian people, very difficult issues that are now accepted to be “covered” with the labels of fascism, Nazism, racism, extremism, anti-Semitism, etc. We'll have to think about how it happened that the most ancient people of the planet (Superethnos Rusov) was ousted to the north of Eurasia, having lost a number of territories that are its ancestral homelands - Central Europe, the Balkan Peninsula, Little Russia (Ukraine), Asia Minor (Anatolia).

That is why in recent decades, the Russian language is subject to constant attacks. The Russian language keeps in itself not only the prints of ancient times, but also the living psychology of ancient people. In addition, according to philologist Alexander Nikolaevich Dragunkin, the matrix of the Universe is encrypted in Russian - it is the language of the ancient gods and God. It was through this language that the “creation” went, the famous one comes to mind: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

It is believed that the language reforms that were carried out after the Christianization of Russia (including the destruction of the ancient types of writing and the transition to the so-called "Cyrillic alphabet"), during the reforms of Peter I and as a result of the activities of the Soviet "reformers" 1920's, not only they did not “improve” the Russian language, but, on the contrary, led to the loss of a number of letters, images and meanings. They became one of the reasons for the current spiritual degradation of the Russian people, their defeats during the revolutions of 1917 and 1991.

But the main thing is that when we are left alone with ourselves and free from the delusions of the world around us, we think and speak in that ancient ancient language that exists from the moment of the birth of humanity.

Interestingly, many scholars consider Sanskrit, which, like the Russian language and the languages ​​of most European nations, belongs to the Indo-European language family, which is closest to the universal parent language. The age of the earliest monuments in Sanskrit dates back to the 2nd millennium BC. It was in this language that the Vedas (“Rig-Veda”, “Sama-Veda”, “Yajur-Veda”, “Atharva-Veda”, etc.) and religious treatises (Upanishads) were written. This language is currently one of the official languages ​​of India and is used as the language of the humanities and religious cults, in a narrow circle (Brahmin caste) - as a spoken language.

According to the opinion of most scholars in India, this language came to the Indian subcontinent from the North, possibly from the territories of Russia, along with native speakers - Aryans (Aryami). This fact is confirmed by the mythology (and this source must be taken very seriously, for example, Heinrich Schliemann, believing the texts of the mythical Homer, eventually discovered the legendary Troy and Mycenaean civilization), according to the myths of the Hindus, in ancient times from the North, because of the Himalayas it's 7 great teachers. They gave the local people their own language, the Vedas, and laid the foundations of their faith - Brahmanism (on its basis later Hinduism arose).

An interesting fact is that the most ancient mythical images of Indian civilization, including God Brahma (his priests are Brahmans), have analogues in the north in Slavic (Russian) mythology. So, the Aryans were in great honor (and the modern Hindus remain) Vol-Veles. Many seals were found (at the archaeological site of the Harappan culture), where he is depicted as a man with horns or a sacred buffalo ox. Often horned husband stands surrounded by tigers and lions (in ancient times lions lived in India). Sometimes sitting in the "posture of the Buddha." At the same time, one person looks forward, and on the sides two more profiles are visible. This is the oldest image of the "Trinity", according to ind. Trimurti, Three Faces. From the ancient language of the Rus to modern Russian, even a special translation is not needed: linguistically “Trimurti” = “three muzzles” (“three faces”, “trinity”). The trinity of the image of God Almighty (the Father of gods and people, of all things) can be traced from the Superethnos of the Ruses from their very appearance on the planet. The ancient Hindus main, the main person belongs Volu-Veles-Vlahu-Brahma. The images of "Vishnu" and "Krishna" are also easy to read. These are “The High” and “The Roof”, epithets of God the Father, the Almighty, his good incarnations.

The Aryans and teachers from the North laid all the foundations of modern Indian civilization, and the Indians were able to preserve many customs, traditions, orders, rites, which were eradicated in Russia, preserving them to our days. Therefore, many Russian people are so carried away by Hinduism, yoga, Buddhism, and another legacy of the Vedic period in the history of India, they felt their own, their own in this culture. Many Indian teachers, brahmans still consider the Russian North as the ancestral home of all mankind (Hyperborea of ​​ancient Greek myths).

More than half of Sanskrit words coincide both in meaning and in pronunciation with Russian words almost completely. Many words have common roots. One of the first researchers of linguistic, mythological ties between India and Russia was the scientist-Indologist Natalia Romanovna Guseva (1914-2010). During the period from 1944 to 2000, she worked as a leading researcher at the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR; she is the author of more than 160 scientific works on culture and the ancient religion of Indians. She is the author of the works “The Russians through the Millennia”, “The Slavs and Arya. The path of gods and words ”, where she conducted numerous comparisons of ancient forms of Slavorus culture and Aryans (Aryans) based on numerous examples of identity in their language and faith. Guseva was a supporter of the Arctic hypothesis of the ancestral homeland of Indo-Europeans, the facts that confirm this theory are described in her works “Russian North - the ancestral homeland of Indo-glories: Exodus of the Aryan and Slav ancestors”, “Russians through the Millennia. Arctic theory.

According to Alexander Dragunkin, a linguist, Sanskrit is a simplified Old Russian language, which froze over time on 4-5 thousands of years. This is evidenced by the fact that words are shortened, simplified, in Sanskrit less verbal forms. But this language is very important for the Russian people, because it allows carrying out restoration work, to understand the language that existed on the territory of Russian civilization-Russia more than 2-4 thousands of years ago.

This is confirmed by the fact that Russian is the most ancient language in the world, and studies by Yuri Dmitrievich Petukhov (1951 - 2009). Back in 1990, his book “The Paths of the Gods” was published, the postulates of which were used in many studies on the history of pre-Christian Russia. In it, the author proved the identity of the Slavs and the most ancient Indo-Europeans, based on the myth and linguistic analysis of ethnogenesis. Petukhov solved the main problem of Indo-European studies. For example, in the second half and the beginning of the 20 century, German scientists believed that the “ancient Germans” were the direct descendants of the “first people”, the Aryans. He proved that the Indo-Europeans, who gave birth to almost all the peoples of Europe and many peoples of Asia, became the Old Slavic Rus. It is Superethnos Rusov in the period XV - II millennium BC. er inhabited the vast expanses of the Middle East, North India, Asia Minor, the Balkans, the peninsula, Central and Eastern Europe, the territory from the Black Sea to the Pacific Ocean. All the languages ​​of the Indo-European language family, including "dead languages", such as ancient Greek and Latin, Sanskrit, were created on the basis of the ancient Russian language. In the ancient Russian mythology lie the origins of all other mythologies - the German-Scandinavian, Indo-Aryan, Celtic, antique, etc.

In his later works (for example, in 2000, the publication of the series “The True History of the Russian People” began) the author developed his theory. The chronological framework of the history of the Rus was brought to 40-45 thousand years BC, by the time of the appearance on the planet of Cro-Magnon. In fact, the author's work proves that the spiritual and material culture of the Ruses lies at the head of the modern human civilization. The ancient civilization of the Rus in its development gave rise to the ancient cultures of Crete, Egypt, Sumer, Akkad, Babylon, Surya-Syria, Troas, Ancient Greece, Etruria-Rasenie (the civilization of Rome was created on its basis), Indian, Chinese, Japanese civilization. "Teachers" from the North gave the ancient ancestors of the modern Chinese, Indians, and Japanese the foundations of writing, faith, mythology, urban culture, producing farms (agriculture and cattle breeding), etc.

Confirm this hypothesis and research of other scientists. So, Gennady Stanislavovich Grinevich based on the pre-Slavic, Russian language was able to decipher the inscriptions that were considered unreadable: tertary inscriptions of the 6th millennium BC. (Vinca culture), Proto-Indian inscriptions in the III-II millennium BC. (Harappa culture), Cretan inscriptions III-II millennium BC, including the famous Phaistos disc (Minoan civilization), Etruscan inscriptions I millennium BC (Ancient Etruria).

Comprehending such studies and imposing on them the geopolitics of the last millennium, you begin to understand why this information is still inaccessible to the majority of the Russian people. It is beneficial for the West and the East that the descendants of “gods and titans”, “great teachers” continue to sleep, and better not wake up from the confusion. Otherwise, the world will face colossal upheavals that will lead to a change in the vector of human development (now it is rapidly going towards complete destruction), and the restoration of the role of Russia as the “soul and mind” of humanity.


Mikhail Zadornov. Mystery of the Russian Language

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  1. Che
    Che 14 November 2011 08: 35
    +8
    In the North American states, stones are found in ancient archaeological layers with Slavic runes. This is amazing. Zhidomassonsky conspiracy in action. The true story is hushed up.
    1. Rink
      Rink 3 December 2012 15: 44
      +2
      ... The chronological framework of the history of the Rus was brought to 40-45 thousand years BC, by the time the Cro-Magnon appeared on the planet. ...

      That's too much.
      It spoils the whole impression of a good article.
      Someone is haunted by the laurels of "ancient ukrov".

      Here the times of 4-5 thousand BC are almost devoid of any reliable evidence base on the ethnicity of the population, not to mention the language - only assumptions and conjectures.

      And 40-45 thousand - it grabbed so grabbed .....
      The main thing here is not to sort out, otherwise it will turn out that the great apes came from us, and the rest of the people from them.

      It is precisely because of such sweeping statements that serious studies of normal scientists are ridiculed.

      So far it is possible to speak more or less plausible only of times, starting with the Cimmerians. This is mainly due to the continuity of the culture of burial burials, craniological types of skulls and DNA (haplogroups) discovered by archaeologists, which allow us to speak not about the change of cultures and peoples, but only about the development of the culture of the same people from the Cimmerians to the Scythians, and from the Scythians to the Slavs, of which Russ later crystallized.

      By the way, even in the time of Lomonosov, before the Germans came to our science, the origin of the Slavs (Russians) from the Scythians was self-evident and did not cause any doubts among our ancestors. Thanks to the "research" of the Germans, it turned out that the Scythians from a vast territory suddenly and completely disappeared somewhere, and just as suddenly, on the same territory, the Slavs appeared from nowhere. Moreover, in violation of all demographic laws, in huge quantities at once ... Incomprehensible? but thanks to these "discoveries" of the Normanists, the Russians became the youngest people in Europe. Without family, without a tribe, who came to their own land ...
      That's what you need to fight in the first place, where to restore truth and justice.


      And "40-45 thousand years ...." is simply irresponsible.
    2. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 03
      +16
      Quote: Che
      In the North American states, stones are found in ancient archaeological layers with Slavic runes. This is amazing.

      Nothing like this. There is no conspiracy. Stones with Slavic runes in the states are falsification.
  2. lightforcer
    lightforcer 14 November 2011 10: 04
    -22
    Samsonov from the Imperials also went to Dolboslavs. If Slavic words are similar to Sanskrit, this does not mean that the Russian language comes from Sanskrit, !!! It only means that they have a common ancestor. And this parent language is common to many other languages, from Armenian to English. And in general, the Aryans are only Indians and Persians.
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 16
      +6
      Learn history ... Work on yourself ... You are still so young and “immensely hot”
    2. zczczc
      zczczc 15 November 2011 04: 30
      +2
      lightforcer, or Russian from Sanskrit, or Sanskrit from Russian, or both from a common ancestor - but where does the Samsonov’s cry? If there are arguments in favor of a common ancestor - tell me. We listen with interest.

      The study of the genetic trace is slightly outweighed in favor of the version that Russian is from Sanskrit. The fact that such an unusually huge number of people live in India says that resettlement came from there. Otherwise, why would different nations come to one place? Is it because of the flood, as Volkhov says. But exploring so deeply is probably almost unrealistic.

      The article is wonderful simple. We need more articles about our history, otherwise everything is measured from Prince Vladimir, whether there were no Russians before him. l
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 15 November 2011 12: 30
        -2
        where does Samsonov’s groaning?


        Yes, at the same time:
        Russian is the oldest language on Earth


        The arguments in favor of a common ancestor were written below, in fact a well-known fact.
      2. master_rem
        master_rem 19 July 2012 15: 24
        0
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZ59Lo-Ws0&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLWm1cfx
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    3. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 14 January 2012 01: 22
      0
      Still need to add gypsies and Kyrgyz.
      We read-fair-haired, blue-eyed, tall, handsome with pronounced muscles, Caucasoid features, with a thin straight, slightly expressed hump nose, etc.
      Or: With black curly hair, short-haired, short, stooped from adversity, dealing with fellow tribesmen, shaking folds of a belly swollen with fat, with an oval pear-shaped head, a protruding lower lip and a drop-shaped nose hanging over it with hair sticking out of the nostrils.
      Who cares?
    4. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 04
      +19
      The Russian language is not the most ancient, but one of the oldest languages ​​in the world.
  3. snek
    snek 14 November 2011 10: 05
    +6
    I remember how I used to love to laugh with the pseudo-historical nonsense of some especially gifted Ukrainians, who told me that the ancient ukry discovered America and equipped the Shaolin. I laughed, damn it, now we are carried there too.
    1. dimitriy
      dimitriy 14 November 2011 10: 23
      +6
      If such historical works seem ridiculous to you, this does not mean that they do not have a right to exist. I don’t see anything bad in the desire of any people to learn their story.
      1. snek
        snek 14 November 2011 16: 01
        +1
        Yes, they are not funny to me, but they seem sad. Yes, I understand that history, according to a number of criteria, cannot be considered a science, but there are several "buts". And very significant. First, a huge number of people have been working in the field of history for several generations, and within the framework of this work, methods of collecting and verifying information, working with sources, etc. are constantly being improved. Or do you think that all historians belong to some secret order that exists to hide some great truth from people? In addition, if we are already talking about language, that is, such an area of ​​knowledge as comparative historical linguistics, in some works it is also called linguistic comparative studies (from the English compare - to compare). This, of course, is far from my profile, but I have some idea of ​​the work in this area and I can say that the methodology and methodology of research there is at a very high level, and in general, a huge work has been done in this area in comparing and studying the history of hundreds languages. And when several people appear and say that all this is a lie, but they will tell the truth now, then of course you can believe them, but you could believe in MMM, where they also (albeit not so directly) said that the economy could work differently ...
        But secondly, Russia has a rich and glorious official history. Our people won some of the greatest victories in history, we are the first in many types of space exploration, etc. And I am proud of it, but on some obscure Rus, who founded the great civilizations and just did not fight with lightsabers, I, excuse me, do not give a damn.
        1. dimitriy
          dimitriy 14 November 2011 16: 24
          +2
          We are all proud of our people. But I believe that any research has the right to be, because even a find in the garden, while digging up potatoes, can give one or the other vector to the official history.
          But I’m very interested in how our ancestors lived before the adoption of Christianity!
        2. J_silver
          J_silver 14 November 2011 21: 57
          +6
          You overestimate the objectivity of people working in the field of historical research!
          The events that took place in our memory have already been completely misinterpreted - how can one believe in the objectivity of historians about events a thousand years ago? Moreover, there are no reliable sources ...
    2. slan
      slan 15 November 2011 21: 12
      +1
      snek
      I have the same thoughts. Sad and embarrassed.
  4. ars_pro
    ars_pro 14 November 2011 10: 10
    0
    A person is not yet ready to know the truth, it will kill him, and even announcing that part of the official story about the beginning of the bluff time will not give instant fruits, and fragile balance can so break the fluttering. God forbid, I'm wrong ...
  5. per3526
    per3526 14 November 2011 10: 16
    0
    A hippo sits in a swamp farts and watches as the bubbles burst.
  6. alebor
    alebor 14 November 2011 10: 49
    -1
    Previously, similar articles were published by the famous comedian Mikhail Zadornov. It turns out he is not alone, he has a like-minded person - A. Samsonov.
  7. Cat23
    Cat23 14 November 2011 11: 24
    +4
    Why not.
    From time immemorial, Russian history was cut and remade by visiting clever people.
    And at this time it is very difficult to understand where the truth is, and where is the fiction.
    Read Bushkov, his alternative story, many questions will arise !!
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 19
      0
      And there are millions of them ... just think ... Or is it no longer in vogue?
    2. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 05
      +17
      Quote: Cat23
      From time immemorial, Russian history was cut and redrawn by visiting clever people

      Especially in the 18th century, visiting "historians" reshaped our history.
  8. forsilon
    forsilon 14 November 2011 11: 44
    +6
    I am extremely surprised at all the sarcastic grins about the article. This is, of course, your opinion, which you are entitled to. But what is it based on? If you have facts, bring them up, dispute them. And if you want to "fart in a swamp like hippos", then do not aloud, to yourself, please.
    1. Dixon
      Dixon 14 November 2011 14: 14
      +3
      The article simply shines with facts and arguments, such as:
      Many scientists believe ... - Which ones?
      Most Indian scientists ... - Which ones?
      Matrix of the Universe ... - What kind of ... such?
      It is believed that ... - Whose?
      ... we think and speak that ancient proto-language ... - Which one? (well, at least a few words)
      Comprehending such studies and imposing on them the geopolitics of the last millennium ... - Milaaai, yes geopolitics thirty years ago was already another, or even a millennium ...
      And here are the facts in every paragraph ...
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 15 November 2011 04: 56
        +3
        Dixon, there is such a book by Helena Blavatsky "The Secret Doctrine". She herself circled the globe 3 times. This book, like its author, is not considered scientific,
        but here is what quite adequate people said:

        Books are famous. They have a lot of good, only that [what] they say about what a person does not need to know is bad.

        L.N. Tolstoy

        Blavatsky was for him a great sacred authority than any gospel ...

        Scriabin's acquaintance about him

        It would be a joy for me to “touch the edge of Madame Blavatsky’s clothes”

        Mahatma Gandhi

        I do not urge to take seriously what is written there, but it can be said unequivocally - either it is complete, or it was really whispered to her :) In India and Tibet there is no llama who would not consider her dedicated.
        1. Evgeny B.
          Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 16: 37
          0
          zczczc, please excuse me, but are you really such a naive person that you can take Ms. Blavatsky’s opus seriously or try to find the truth there?
          Don't you know how she wanted to break with the spirits that she herself obeyed at the end of her life? True, they did not give her a divorce ...
          In addition, is the life of Russian Saints not a proof of the TRUTH of what they instructed?
          Aren't all these "gurus", "Vangas", "Nostradamus" and others, who are so much promoted in the media, are they just dummies, on whose behalf we are brainwashed? Can't you see it?
        2. Magus
          Magus 25 November 2020 01: 05
          +21
          Quote: zczczc
          book by Helena Blavatsky

          That still madam ... Mystic, occultist and forger. To refer to her is the height of cynicism and vulgarity.
    2. lightforcer
      lightforcer 14 November 2011 17: 07
      -9
      Why reinvent the wheel? Sanskrit is an extinct language of a non-European family. Slavic languages ​​are his relatives, but not descendants. It was back in the 19th century that linguists established. So the whole article is farting in a puddle.
      1. J_silver
        J_silver 14 November 2011 21: 58
        -1
        Let me clarify - who and when? And on what basis?
        1. lightforcer
          lightforcer 14 November 2011 22: 19
          -3
          Information is not from the sacred treasures of the astral. There is such a direction in linguistics - comparative studies. Its founder was Sir William Jones. He was the first to voice the theory that Sanskrit, Latin and Ancient Greek have similarities not only in vocabulary, but also in grammar, which means they are related. Gradually, kinship ties were established between languages, which were called language families. By studying language families, scientists have found that language changes are consistent. For example, the transition of the old French sound "h" to "w". This means that they have an opportunity to try to restore the original language of the family. This is the essence of comparative studies - it is an attempt to restore the original language. So it follows from here that no Russian language is a descendant of Sanskrit. The Proto-Slavs are not Aryans, but their relatives.
          1. lightforcer
            lightforcer 14 November 2011 22: 46
            -3
            The so-called Aryans are representatives of the Indo-Iranian language group. To judge how much their direct descendants have preserved the culture of their ancestors, judge for yourself - these are the Persians, Tajiks, Alans (Ossetians), the peoples of northern India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Gypsies.
            1. J_silver
              J_silver 14 November 2011 23: 28
              -1
              It is also not proven - only at the level of speculation ...
            2. vadimus
              vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 25
              0
              Ar is land ... Where did you look like a dupe cygan on the land of workers? Yes, and generally working ... You are our naive
              1. lightforcer
                lightforcer 15 November 2011 12: 36
                -2
                vadimus,
                So what? Gypsies come from India and they are Aryans. But didn’t you know? So the wipers should not argue whether it is dangerous to launch the hadron collider.
          2. J_silver
            J_silver 14 November 2011 23: 28
            0
            You might think that these are proven facts - it looks rather weak even for an assumption ...
            1. lightforcer
              lightforcer 15 November 2011 12: 33
              -3
              J_silver,
              But Slavic-Aryan dolbloslavia just right.
              1. Magus
                Magus 25 November 2020 01: 07
                +15
                I do not like the native faith of the Slavic ancestors, your right. But why insult the Faith of people, which does not correspond to your view of religion? ...
          3. vadimus
            vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 22
            +2
            We do not believe in our own, we give the West in earnest ... Where does enlightenment come from?
            1. dimitriy
              dimitriy 15 November 2011 13: 56
              +1
              I apologize, I confused the arrows with a fright)) I give 2 + !!
      2. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 16: 54
        0
        lightforcer - I support. When, in western Ukraine, the Ukrainians, overwhelmed by their own significance, shouted that they were Aryans (they even wrote the book "Shlyakh Ariyev"), that they were descendants of the Pro-Ukrainians, to whom Jesus Christ also belongs (they were honored), then the theory about "little, but the proud tribe of Ukrov "... This fever continues now, although it has already faded away ...
        This article also reminded me of the aforementioned "science pratsi", therefore such an article appeared either from the short-sightedness of the erring author, or with the aim of later making fun of real patriots who, without thinking, supported it.
  9. Ion coaelung
    Ion coaelung 14 November 2011 12: 20
    +4
    Our ancient heritage is inexhaustible, I do not understand how it turns out to hide all this from the masses, and what leaks out is turned into a lie.

    Az of the Gods I Know the Verb Good There is Life!
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 27
      0
      If it was taught, believe it would be less
  10. dimitriy
    dimitriy 14 November 2011 13: 04
    +3
    I once read a long time ago, I can’t remember where, such a phrase (literally, of course I don’t remember): what is written - can be broken, burned or rewritten, what is transmitted orally from generation to generation - can be destroyed only by killing the medium, and everyone becomes a carrier once. Maybe we are going the wrong way? Maybe enough to read books, but let’s listen to our grandparents?
  11. Artemka
    Artemka 14 November 2011 13: 28
    +3
    By the way, a clever idea. In communication, you can really learn and understand a lot.
  12. Dixon
    Dixon 14 November 2011 13: 57
    0
    The harder and worse in my country, the more muddy revelations from the lips of the insane ... I soon find out that my roots are Martian, yeah ...
    1. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 07
      +11
      Who knows ... Maybe not Martian, but Jupiter ... wink laughing
  13. Dixon
    Dixon 14 November 2011 14: 03
    0
    forsilon,
    Dixon,
    An article with facts just splashes ...Dixon,
  14. I.C.V. Stryker
    I.C.V. Stryker 14 November 2011 14: 07
    +4
    Starting from the time of the Rurikization and then the Christianization of the Slavs, all secular and religious rulers redrawed the history of the great people, their beliefs, language, and the memory itself about its connections with the greatest knowledge, beliefs, language and genetic connection with the great civilizations of antiquity.
  15. Dixon
    Dixon 14 November 2011 14: 22
    0
    I propose to rename the article to "GUIDING THE ORIGIN OF THE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE"
    All doubts are exhausted, all issues are resolved, all secrets are revealed ...
    It remains only to shoot the Jews of the oaths and enemies of the people - and return the arias to their native lands. And who does not agree - Schaub he died ...
    1. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 08
      +17
      Quote: Dixon
      All doubts are exhausted, all issues are resolved, all secrets are revealed ...

      Not everything and not everything, but much is already known from the history of the ancient Slavs.
  16. Odessa
    Odessa 14 November 2011 14: 35
    -3
    For half of the article, the author is credited. And the next half of the publication fits more into the "national geography" or "the magazine around the world." )))
  17. Passing
    Passing 14 November 2011 15: 21
    -6
    The cause and effect are confused. These are not Slavs ancestors of the Aryans, but rather the opposite. And accordingly, Sanskrit cannot in any way be a simplified form of the language of the Pre-Slavs, for one simple reason - at that time the Slavs basically did not exist, they appeared much later, during the great migration of peoples - conditionally from India to Europe, along the chain of Aryan-settled Scythians -Russian Slavs.
    On this topic, I recommend reading the book by Alexander Peresvet "Russians - not Slavs?" (I will immediately explain that this book has nothing to do with "sensational shit outbursts" fellow )
    1. J_silver
      J_silver 14 November 2011 22: 00
      0
      Was there any relocation at all?
      1. Passing
        Passing 15 November 2011 02: 46
        -2
        1) There is an opinion that our species appeared in Africa, accordingly there should be a way (paths) of settlement around the world.
        2) There is an opinion that ancient cultures (civilizations) did not arise from nowhere, but originated on the basis of their predecessors, developed and disappeared, transferring some of their luggage further (to their descendants, invaders, neighbors, etc.), and this evolution is clearly tracked to the remnants of their material culture (shards, burials, buildings, etc.), and on the basis of these data, a more or less consistent path (paths) for spreading our species was built.
      2. Magus
        Magus 25 November 2020 01: 09
        +19
        Quote: J_Silver
        Was there any relocation at all?

        Doubt that took place and was officially proven, you know, it is not entirely correct.
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 34
      0
      Pass by ... And yet, read ... One book in life is not enough
      1. Passing
        Passing 15 November 2011 04: 03
        0
        Quote: vadimus
        One book in life is not enough

        Oh how! I thought the ABCs would be enough for me in life with a large margin, and you just dumbfounded, pliz, announce the whole list of books that is necessary for life.
    3. ereke
      ereke 15 November 2011 01: 05
      -4
      Persians called themselves Aryans, or rather, their leaders of the Persian tribes. Once Persia was the satrapy of the great Media kingdom arose 2000 years ago on the ruins of the Assyrian empire. This was a small area on the territory of modern Iran, if you look then the south-west is closer to the Persian Gulf. Their land was rocky and barren and they swallowed to get everything with hard work. But once Cyrus appeared in childhood as a former shepherd and grazed with a father in the mountains of goats and spent the night there and sometimes got food by hunting with his father. Over time, he rose. During his period, there is a time when the ruler of Satrap of Persian satrapia married the daughter of the ruler of the Median state. Different ways in his youth, he ended up in the palace of the supreme ruler, as a result of the war in which he was supported by fellow countrymen - the Persians threw off the old supreme king of the Median state. Having conquered the rebellious satrapies of the entire Median state by war, Cyrus became the King of Kings and the lord of the four cardinal points and founded the Persian state.

      He was a stern and seasoned man, sleeping with his soldiers wrapped in a cloak. In campaigns for themselves, the carts of the handmaids, lackeys and concubines did not yearn. but he always walked in tsroy with his soldiers. Under him, the Persian army was mobile (it consisted of the Persian infantry and the Median heavy horse)

      Cyrus the king of kings and the lord of four corners of the world, led numerous conquests, subjugating all then civilized state officers of Central Asia, East, Asia Minor and the Middle East.

      He found his death in battle along with his army. numbering 200 thousand people, was completely defeated and destroyed in the steppes of Sakistan by Queen Emir Tomiris (the territory of modern Kazakhstan)

      According to the latest information, King Cyrus could have avoided this fate if he had fled with his retinue. But he preferred to join the battle together with the military leaders and personal guard of the "immortals", seeing that the battle was taking an extremely unfavorable turn for the Persians





      After him, there were no normal kings in the Persian power (with the exception of Darius his second nephew). The Persian power rested only on ideology about the superiority of the Aryans (i.e. Persians). If once this faith turned into religion helped the small people like the Persians survive in difficult living conditions and would not be forgotten as a people. That in the era of dawn as a power played a cruel joke with them. They too believed that they were God's chosen. And they did nothing to really build up their military power, instead they pampered in luxury and debauchery. And more severe and warlike peoples put an end to the Persian Empire (Alexander of Macedon)


      Alexander can be attributed to the Slavs-Aryans or progenitors of the modern southern Slavs. But not the rest neither Germans nor Russians
      1. J_silver
        J_silver 15 November 2011 12: 23
        +3
        Did you get 300 of the Spartans from the movie comic strip? Just a class, as far as this is an authoritative source ...
        1. ereke
          ereke 15 November 2011 18: 21
          -4
          No, there is nothing unsaid in the film about their occurrence. If you looked carefully, then there is no longer Cyrus and not a word about him, and how the Persian state arose the same Nislov. it shows the period of the reign of Xerxes, he was not a direct descendant of Cyrus, although he was an Achaemenid. It was after the emergence of the Persian state, 500 years later, Xerxes waged wars with the Greek states. You still have to be more attentive, this is just a screenshot from the film, which gives a general idea of ​​the Persian Guard "immortals". Another source, our ancestors Saki and Massageta, often fought with the Persians, and also collaborated, some tribal leaders went into the service of the Persian kings who ruled after Cyrus. In particular, they were in the army of Xerxes during his reign and the war with the Greek states, the cavalry of the Saks participated in the old Persians

          In our state museums there are many runic records of various times preserved to varying degrees. And there are objects of excavation of both our and Modern archaeologists from the west on the territory of Iran, for example, they excavated the residence (his palace) of Darius II, Cyrus’s nephew. In a city that is not there now, Persepolis. The city arose when the founder of the Persian state Cyrus decided to build up a new capital of the state, and in a short time they built Persepolis as a new admin. center, new power

          1. ereke
            ereke 15 November 2011 18: 32
            -4
            Of course, it is clear to everyone that this computer film in the story is more like a comic book, you haven’t revealed anything like this to me. b-la sometimes stupidity in this matter pops up for some here. It was immediately obvious that they were never interested in the history of the East, especially the origin of the Aryan word of their ideology which formed the basis of the Zaroostrism religion and their geometric sign in the form of a swastika.

            You probably also don’t know the origin of Judaism and God’s devotion to the people of Zion, and their geometric sign of the star of David, which modern Zionists have now spun around the world

            By the way, the palace of Darius II in the excavated city of Persepolis
            1. ereke
              ereke 15 November 2011 18: 36
              -3

              Palace of Darius in Persepolis
              In short, it does not work with the loading of the picture, you will find everything yourself, if you want to know everything in more detail
              1. ereke
                ereke 15 November 2011 19: 24
                -1
                In general, Adolf Hitler was always an ignoramus, and even as an artist failed. This corporal from the Bavarian regiment did not bother to carefully read the book of the famous German philosopher Nietzsche, about Zarathustra (Zarathushtra) and the occurrence of Zoroostrism. About the great people and the great warriors.

                Zaroostrism as a religion is more like an ideology, and the life of believers in the fast-growing, unlike the later Christians, is more regulated and subordinated to one idea, namely, that God chose the Persian people and helps them all in their affairs, and they have clear blue divine blood . Religion arose when the Persians were always oppressed by the neighboring great powers (Babylonian, Assyrian, Media-Lydian). In response to the constant humiliation in the form of imposing a tribute to them, a faith was created in God’s devotion so that at least something was proud and identified with the Persian people , in the absence of other successes and great pleases in the history of the people. And it helped them survive and establish themselves in the world.

                Judaism has the same roots throughout the millennium, the Jewish-Jewish kingdom was enslaved, first by the forces of the united kingdom of Ta-Ke-met (modern Egypt), then by the Hittites, then again by the Egyptians, then by the Persians, then by the Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Ottoman Turks.

                And now, not having their achievements, unlike the listed peoples, they are constantly oppressed. The Jews created Judaism, the belief that God helps them and passes their decisions through Moses, who brought them to the promised land, saving them from the troops of the Egyptian pharaoh, and working miracles along the road (the sea unfolded in front of the Jewish people and they crossed to that shore, but the pharaoh who was persecuting the Jewish people was not lucky with the troops, the sea mushrooms returned to their former appearance and the pharaoh was left with his nose) Then Moses said through the mouth of God that this would be the land of the Jews, the sacred land of Zion

                And most importantly, these two religions are impoverished, so it is faith in one god, the main god, monotheism.



                The German people were humiliated by defeat in the First World War, and the imposition of a huge indemnity, and the Treaty of Versailles.


                Here Adolf Hitler appeared, although he was an ignoramus and did not read German classics very well about the Aryans (Nietzsche, Erich Fromm), but he was a good speaker and who clearly felt the mood of the German people. In general, his new religion about the Aryans, which he wrote off in finished form from zoroostrism, not understanding its origin and essence, brought its unexpected hitherto fruits. The German people fully supported his ideas, and began to build, together with the new father of the people of the Führer, a new great Germany.


                Dulling in his hysterical aspirations of world domination and God's chosen people of the Nordic Aryans to complete frostbite and insensitivity to their pains and pain of other nations. Crossing out with his massive atrocities and murders of entire nations, all the achievements of the German enlightenment, composers and inventors, Feuerbach, Kant, Nietzsche, Johann Bach, Daimler Benz, Diesel. And the concept of the Germans as a highly cultured and civilized people, even by European standards

                And it cost the German people dearly, the idea crashed completely, and the crisis of the German state. The Germans and now can not come to their senses and pursue an equal policy with others. Although they were pitied and the winners were not as bloodthirsty as they were, on the conscience of the German Aryans of pure blood, only by subhuman Slavs 20 million killed at the fronts, shot prisoners and in concentration camps

                Now such an identity is noticeable in Russia among the Russian part of the population, more and more Russians connect their origin with the Aryans. And such an ideology is bearing fruit among the younger generation.

                This has its pros and cons.

                Plus, if this continues, then the rise will quickly turn into a defeat. And devastating, the higher they fly, if things get up that way, the harder it will fall

                The minus is still sorry for the Russian neighbors, after all. How much we live and no matter how much we overcome together.
      2. Magus
        Magus 25 November 2020 01: 10
        +17
        Quote: ereke
        Alexander can be attributed to the Aryan Slavs or the progenitors of the modern South Slavs.

        Stupidity. Alexander the Great to the Slavs, incl. southern, has nothing to do.
    4. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 09
      +17
      Russian Slavs. Slavs. And the Eastern Slavs began to be called Russians in the 10th century.
  18. Lech e-mine
    Lech e-mine 14 November 2011 16: 28
    0
    MANY THOUGHTS BUT NOTHING SPECIFIC.
  19. Boos24
    Boos24 14 November 2011 17: 15
    +4
    so that the first words of the baby MAMA or DAD should not be spoken in all nations, and the fact that this is the greatest language is an axiom. And BARBARA could not hold such territory even though it was not so big
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 37
      +1
      a barbarian from a word in ar, in ar ... So our ancestors of the enemies buried in advance ... Ar is the earth, So that kind of dig their pass-kudu ...
      1. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 18: 20
        +1
        "Var-var" means "stranger." Why not take an interest in the achievements of classical linguistics. Some inventions all the time.
      2. Magus
        Magus 25 November 2020 01: 11
        +12
        Quote: vadimus
        barbarian from the word in ar, in ar

        laughing laughing
        Quote: vadimus
        So our ancestors buried enemies in advance ... Ar this is the land, So that like we will bury them

        Good fiction laughing
  20. saruman
    saruman 14 November 2011 17: 46
    +16
    I myself have an education historian NGPU. There are huge dark holes in the story. Therefore, there are a lot of topics for various theories, hypotheses and speculations.
    Recently I bought the book "Myths of Ancient Greece" for my child. You can, if you want to find other myths and sagas - ancient European. BUT! Finding ancient Slavic myths in a popular publication is almost impossible. Have you ever seen them? Have you read it? Maybe they studied at school? Taboo! Our children are brought up on other people's myths and legends. It is a fact. Some ninja turtles and spidermen. What is it? Collusion, conspiracy, or government policy?
    The Orthodox Church recently surprised, they want to remake Pushkin's fairy tale about Balda and Pop, to replace the floor with a merchant. Nightmare!
    Samsonov touched on a controversial topic, but probably necessary. The Soviet school of history was one-sided enough. And now we urgently need to re-create the Russian School of History, until full laymen came to scientific departments, which will work exclusively for grants. And whoever pays, they order music.
    Something like this, chaotically happened ...
    1. J_silver
      J_silver 14 November 2011 22: 01
      0
      The question is - were those Greeks and did they even have myths?
      1. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 18: 23
        0
        Well, you will go far in your research.
    2. Serush
      Serush 14 November 2011 23: 22
      -1
      Rather, nowhere, well done !!!
    3. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 41
      0
      Now this is a sore point and there are facts, but changing world history is no longer just a conflict at the level of religions ...
  21. Evgeny B.
    Evgeny B. 14 November 2011 18: 59
    -4
    Don't la-la. The Russian Empire arose thanks to Christianity! This is a historical fact. The glorification of paganism and departure from Orthodoxy is very important for those who sold Christ for 30 pieces of silver. As long as we believe in Christ, they will not leave us alone! They have sworn in this with their blood and consistently fulfill their oath. At the same time, one should not forget that we are also alive thanks to Christ. If we deny, we will deny our Fathers, because they took an oath for us. What will await the traitors after that, I think there is no need to explain to those present here. So that appeals to the distant past comes from all known sources. These are, as always, our "WISHERS".
    PS Look what happened to those who took Uniatism in Ukraine.
    1. J_silver
      J_silver 14 November 2011 22: 03
      -1
      Rather, Orthodoxy drove to their views than vice versa ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 14 November 2011 23: 02
      +2
      Quote: Eugene B.
      The Russian Empire arose thanks to Christianity! This is a historical fact.

      Well, yes, a Martian shield hung over Constantinople
      Quote: Eugene B.
      If we renounce, we will renounce our Fathers, because they swore an oath for us.

      Well, Vladimir denied his Gods and bowed to a stranger
      1. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 17: 52
        0
        Renouncing the petty and secondary for the sake of the greater and the higher - we become higher, renouncing the supreme for the small - we become miserable and insignificant.
    3. dimitriy
      dimitriy 15 November 2011 12: 35
      +2
      What did Christ say there? “… If someone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, and wife and children, and brothers and sisters, and, moreover, his own life, he cannot be My disciple.” Probably we have already renounced our Fathers, if we believe in Christ.
      1. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 17: 08
        0
        Where is it from? Please provide a reference from the Bible.
        1. Magus
          Magus 25 November 2020 01: 12
          +21
          Quote: Eugene B.
          Where is it from? Give a link, please, from the Bible

          Luke 14:26 (27)
    4. zczczc
      zczczc 15 November 2011 13: 42
      +4
      Evgeny B., so I read the Bible twice (one in adolescence) and in adulthood I realized that it was a huge mistake to adopt Christianity. Only 30 pieces of silver can not be found ...

      And about the Fathers, and even from the capital beech - he truly said! So honor the fathers. Or did your fathers come to our land with the bible? Then these are not our fathers. And if they lived here, like mine, for thousands of years, then honor their covenants. At the same time, it is not necessary to be a pagan at all. And the covenant of the fathers is simple - do not succumb to foreign influence! Live your mind, not the Jews, slightly retouched to the local flavor.

      Unianism is not an Avaamic religion? As long as we pray to other gods, until for this thread and will be pulled because of the cordon. Is it really incomprehensible, beneficial for the globalizers that the Europeans send the Crusade to the Asians, it is beneficial for the Asians to send us the holy jihad, the weekend, so that we have a mess inside us and we lose control of the ancestral lands - tolerance is being preached. That's what you think about! And could this happen if it weren’t in Christianity and Islam in Europe and Asia respectively.

      Have you heard the phrase "agent of influence"? So Christianity and Islam are instruments of influence.
      1. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 15: 57
        0
        1. About silver coins: Gospel of Matthew, chap. 26, verse 15; ch. 27, verse 3.
        2. The Jews rejected Christ, then the Talmud arose, it was a sharp turn in their beliefs. What is Talmudism - there are many comments on this and you can, if you want to figure it out, find it.
        3. When everyone lives his own mind, considering himself, his beloved, the navel of the Earth - this is democracy in its full, ultimate development.
        4. God is not his own or a stranger; HE is one for all. If Newton formulated the laws of mechanics, this does not mean that these are the laws of English (Jewish) mechanics, but we have Russian mechanics and other laws.
        5. Like any state, Russia has an economy, replacing the words in your last statement we get:
        "Have you heard the phrase" agent of influence "? So ECONOMY is an instrument of influence." What to do, everything that we possess is an instrument of influence, especially when we do not know the intricacies of manipulating various concepts. Here the premise thrown into people from the Theory of Relativity, which says: EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE! This is a very dastardly use of physical theory in relation to everything around us, but the OVERWEELING majority of people think it is. Accepting this premise as the truth is like knocking a stool out of under the feet of a gallows - after that, everyone who accepted it hung!
        Well, I don’t like to write so much about complicated things, where it’s very easy, thoughtlessly spoken word, to cross out the whole point.
        thanks for the answer.
    5. Magus
      Magus 25 November 2020 01: 12
      +15
      What about our ancestors? What was wrong with our ancestors, who were "pagans"?
  22. saruman
    saruman 14 November 2011 19: 05
    +3
    Do not la la. Empires do not arise thanks to Christianity, Islam, etc. Orthodox leaders in Russia and the Muscovite kingdom for the most part impeded the creation of the Russian Empire, what would you know. I also came up with a historical fact.
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 15 November 2011 00: 44
      0
      The fifth column was not invented by the Deputies fellow
    2. Evgeny B.
      Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 18: 00
      0
      It is not necessary to separate the Russian from the Orthodox - this is a LIE, the empire was the Russian Orthodox and not otherwise.
      Regarding the "brakes", "obscurantists", "clergy", "imperialism", "zhanndarm of free peoples" - it's time to stop reading Trotsky, Lenin, Marx, etc.
      1. Magus
        Magus 25 November 2020 01: 13
        +11
        Quote: Eugene B.
        Regarding the "brakes", "obscurantists", "priesthood", "imperialism", "zhanndarm of free peoples"

        But it was so. It was not Lenin and Stalin who came up with these nicknames, but the people themselves.
  23. Strelez
    Strelez 14 November 2011 19: 23
    +1
    The article sheds light on the true history of mankind, and the Russian people in particular, the Russian language we inherited from the Aryans (Yari) - Rusov ,.
  24. Tankograd
    Tankograd 14 November 2011 19: 36
    +6
    Correctly, the author wrote that the patriot of his homeland, and if someone does not like it, then this is their personal grief! To live in Russia and think and speak Russian and at the same time to harass your country is simply disgusting! This suggests that the gentlemen overseas from the CIA do not eat their bread in vain! Best of all who will kill the Russians - he himself is dissatisfied with the power of Russian (Ukrainian, Belarusian, etc.)! They then the Western bad boys, this thing as it turned out badly! After all, you got the knight dogs from Alexander Nevsky in 1242 on the ice of Lake Peipsi! Received from the combined army of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (where 70 percent of the population was Slavs and the official language was Old Russian), a Czech unit led by Jan ижižka and the Tatato-Mongolian army in 1410 in the Battle of Grunwald (about this symbol of fraternal unity of the Slavs for some reason, after the collapse of the USSR, they don’t remember at all the eastern and western with the Turkic-speaking representatives of the Golden Horde, probably be afraid that God forbid they would not restore the USSR again!
    Received by the Swedes near Poltava, the French from all over Europe near Borodino and Maloroslavets in 1812, the Germans and Austrians in 1916 with the Brusilov breakthrough, the Nazis and all of Europe in the Waffen SS units in 1945! So they incite Russian against Russian, Slav against Slav! and you some gentlemen on the site will calm down, it is unnecessary to pour mud on each other for the sake of amerikos-pindos! You just need to look on the Internet a series of films "Games of the Gods" about the history of the Slavs, their language, habits and try to give all the questions asked by the authors of the film their own unbiased answers! And it is unnecessary to refer to "the classics of Russian history" - the works of the Germans Miller and Schlotzer, and the court painter Karamzin! They then drove the Slavs to Rurik into pits and caves, it is a pity that there are no palm trees in Russia, otherwise the Slavs would have crawled along the palm trees, clinging to the trunks with their tails! For some reason, there are no references to the works of Lomonosov Tatishchev, which proved that the Slavs had a high culture and writing long before Cyril and Methodius, canonized by the Orthodox Church! For some reason, we believe the anti-scientific statements of the church about the creation of the Slavic writing system by the priests, but the fact that the Russian scientist G.S. Grinevich deciphered the Festky disc of the Cretan culture written in the ancient Russian language in the 2nd millennium BC, we do not believe! Where is the logic! I myself saw and heard Grinevich's speeches and his arguments in favor of the existence of Slavic writing on the film from the Internet, and everything is clear to me! I can explain all the wild fuss about the ancient Russian history, everything is simple - the Aryan Slavs had no admiration for something unknown, they felt like a part of nature, the entire Earth, the entire Galaxy! All were equal among themselves, the differences were only in merits to the clan, tribe! All were together and united - one for all all for one! That was their strength! BUT the Christian faith came and turned the entire people into cattle-slaves of the Lord, whom the anointed of God - princes, kings, kings, emperors and other public began to skillfully manipulate. like nothing depends on each person! For a thousand years, this has taken root so widely that no one wants to change anything, if the garbage is in the entrance, it is not me and not the neighbor who is to blame, but our country we live in Russia! It is so ! Begin to change the attitude towards life, towards your language, towards your small homeland and towards all of Great Russia through yourself! This will be the main national idea - the Russian people, to learn to respect ourselves and everything that surrounds us again! And the advanced nano technologies themselves apply, because despite the lack of money, luxury, equipment - on one enthusiasm and faith in his country, he flew into space - Yu.A. Gagarin!
    1. lightforcer
      lightforcer 14 November 2011 21: 01
      +1
      You moron! The article is not about the achievements of the Russian people, it is about

      Russian is the oldest language on Earth
      1. sprut
        sprut 14 November 2011 22: 14
        +1
        Well, why, and about achievements too ... fellow
        1. lightforcer
          lightforcer 14 November 2011 22: 24
          +3
          Well, Ancient Rome is also our achievement! Because the Etruscans are Russian.
          1. Che
            Che 15 November 2011 08: 08
            0
            read Fomenko I trust him he is a mathematician and not a corrupt historian
            1. lightforcer
              lightforcer 15 November 2011 12: 37
              -1
              Che,
              that's because of this and a mess in my head.
            2. Evgeny B.
              Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 14: 42
              0
              Regarding Fomenko: he is a mathematician, but the unforgettable Krylov said that “it’s bad when a shoemaker bakes pies, and a pie-maker makes boots”. That says it all!
            3. Magus
              Magus 25 November 2020 01: 14
              +19
              Quote: Che
              read Fomenko I trust him he is a mathematician and not a corrupt historian

              You shouldn't trust. He's a forger.
          2. Evgeny B.
            Evgeny B. 20 November 2011 18: 29
            0
            Hope this is a joke. Lucky.
          3. Magus
            Magus 25 November 2020 01: 13
            +22
            Quote: lightforcer
            Well, Ancient Rome is also our achievement! Because the Etruscans are Russian.

            Nothing like this. The very name "Etruscans" is a modern Italian, derived from the Latin "Tusca", as the ancient Romans called the Etruscan people.
      2. Tankograd
        Tankograd 15 November 2011 19: 21
        0
        And you, sir, are a traitor to the Motherland! Since I speak and think Russian, or rather, one of the dialects of the Slavic language that has been spoken, spoken, and at least half of Eurasia will be spoken for a long time, then for me the Russian language and the Slavic community of people are the wisest, oldest and greatest!
  25. ars_pro
    ars_pro 14 November 2011 22: 14
    0
    I agree on the account of education !!! my + !!! Even the fact that our one word can be interpreted in many senses without speaking about the combination of two or three words into one (which is rarely seen in other languages) gives a completely different understanding ...
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 14 November 2011 23: 03
      0
      yes no laughing
  26. lightforcer
    lightforcer 14 November 2011 22: 27
    -1
    I don’t see something in the article of such a surname as Chudinov. However, the very first comment seems to be about IT.
  27. Nick
    Nick 14 November 2011 23: 19
    +1
    In my opinion, the article lacks references to sources confirming the hypotheses presented in the article. Only links to names.
  28. zavesa01
    zavesa01 15 November 2011 10: 17
    +1
    Like any other theory, until it is disproved, it has the right to life. Accordingly, what is said here has the right to life.
    Regarding the redrawing of the story, the answer is simple: the chroniclers are also people and they want to get a denyuzhka, and they get it from who they write the conclusion about how to write is obvious. I would like to ask the opponents of this theory:
    1- why almost nothing (except the well-known) is written about the history of pre-Christian Russia.
    2- why the Christian church so stubbornly dragged the barbarians into their fold.
    3- Why do all Christians wear incense and only Russian crosses.
    4- why after 5-6 hours of classes we (Slavs) will be able to read in Sanskrit, but the British, Germans, etc.
    5- why China, which for several thousand years has not advanced its borders to the north.
    Probably enough for now.
    1. lightforcer
      lightforcer 15 November 2011 12: 44
      -1
      Regarding the fourth point


      Indo-European languages ​​are divided into two groups - Kentum and Satem. This is an evolutionary difference in the pronunciation of sounds. That would seem to think nonsense. But no, sometimes the words change beyond recognition. An example is the Russian "heart" and the English "heart", the Russian "hundred" and the English "hundred". That is, where in Russian (and Sanskrit) "s", in English there will be "x". You can look for examples ourselves, only not in the modern language, but in Old Russian and Old English.
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 15 November 2011 13: 54
        0
        lightforcer, this doesn’t prove anything - yes, there are many common roots, especially with German, but we also have many roots from other languages. At the same time, the 4th paragraph that the Veil wrote is just for us, and not for others.

        In general, what are we arguing about? Maybe they had a common ancestor. I do not understand the grain of the dispute - what did the author of the article say, what causes denial?
        1. lightforcer
          lightforcer 15 November 2011 14: 09
          0
          Quote: snek
          I remember how I used to love to laugh with the pseudo-historical nonsense of some especially gifted Ukrainians, who told me that the ancient ukry discovered America and equipped the Shaolin. I laughed, damn it, now we are carried there too.
          1. zczczc
            zczczc 15 November 2011 14: 21
            0
            lightforcer, well, of course, "non-specific negation" is called :)))
  29. 916-th
    916-th 15 November 2011 14: 51
    +1
    There is such a concept - extremism, by the way a derivative of the English "extreme". If in Russian, it is "extreme". We are all familiar with political extremism. This article is an example of linguistic extremism. Placing the roots of the Russian language in the foundation of world civilization is an unproven extreme. The other extreme is to completely forget about your roots, to pretend that there was nothing of value in pre-Christian Russia at all.

    I agree with Saruman that there really are a lot of blind spots in our history, if not entire historical layers. They need to be studied, moreover, objectively and not biased, and not through a cheers-patriotic magnifying glass.
  30. Dhira simha
    Dhira simha 16 November 2011 22: 15
    +2
    Slavic languages ​​and Vedic Sanskrit are really surprisingly structurally, phonetically and lexically similar, but to say that half of his words coincide with Russian or that Sanskrit is a simplified version of Russian is absolutely wrong. No need to fool yourself and others!
    On this site you can see some materials from the new dictionary and see for yourself.
    http://borissoff.wordpress.com/current-project/
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 17 November 2011 02: 07
      +1
      Dhira simha, Somewhere already wrote, I will cite again:
      rich - speech
      tea - tea
      hlas - read
      agni - fire
      mrta - dead
      hima - winter
      dina - day
      diva - marvel
      garga - thunderstorm
      race - dew
      thunder - snowstorm
      silt - silt
      ruch - beam
      trina - grass
      tata - father (well, it's almost everywhere)
      rodas - rod, land
      suna - son
      jani - wife
      priya - nice
      hrad - rejoice
      bast - love
      media - laugh
      chula - closet
      chickens - cock
      sandpiper - sandpiper
      fly - mouse
      dog - dog
      lamb - lamb
      shaft - hair
      loop - peel
      fall - fall
      cool - chill
      tap - warm
      nud - nudit

      Not half the words coincide, but those that were in use at the time of either our departure from Tibet or our entry there. This is just a bigger question than the fact of the relationship of languages.
  31. 916-th
    916-th 17 November 2011 07: 47
    +1
    Dhira Simha:
    Slavic languages ​​and Vedic Sanskrit are really surprisingly structurally, phonetically and lexically similar, but to say that half of his words coincide with Russian or that Sanskrit is a simplified version of Russian is absolutely wrong.


    zczczc:
    Not half the words coincide, but those that were in use at the time of either our departure from Tibet or our entry there. This is just a bigger question than the fact of the relationship of languages.


    I have always been more impressed by sober-minded people than written patriots.
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 17 November 2011 17: 26
      +1
      916-thand why did you get that our presence in Tibet is dictated by patriotism? Severe need most likely. This is if we assume that we came there to take refuge. Well, if on the contrary, we got out of there, then nothing patriotic too - it just happened. Patriotism refers only to our stay on our earth.
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 21 November 2011 20: 58
        +1
        What else is our presence? angry Tibetans have been living on their land since prehistoric times.
  32. 916-th
    916-th 18 November 2011 13: 15
    0
    zczczc, misunderstanding came out - I attributed the author of the article to the cheers-patriots. The first part of the comment concerns you.
  33. Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 15 January 2012 01: 52
    0
    I recently read a study in the English language that English irregular verbs gradually turn into regular ones with the speed of one verb in 500-1000 years.
    Making a regular verb is just adding the ending "ed" to the past tense.
    Those. for the Russian language this would mean adding the ending "al" to any verb (for example, the appearance of the word "been").
    Yes, but in the Russian language for many years, as all verbs are equipped with appropriate endings, and not only to the past tense, but also to many other uses.
    Now count the number of different endings, multiply it by the number of verbs in the Russian language, then multiply not 500 ... and you will get an approximate date for the formation of the Russian language, when all of its verbs were irregular and had no endings.
    What, it turns out too long?
    Well ... maybe there is still some kind of "mobility coefficient" to introduce - when several verbs are modified at the same time ... or did it happen abruptly?
    But in any case, the differences in the age of the still green, with a poor set of endings, of the English language and the age of the Russian, where the processes that are just beginning in English, have occurred in Russian in time immemorial, are clearly visible.
  34. belikovvladi
    belikovvladi 1 February 2014 15: 07
    0
    Russian language is unique.
    http://russkieslogi.ru/
    It is shown and proved to the interested reader that syllables and letters of the Russian language have strictly defined meanings, and many Russian words are semantic synthetic miniatures, and the meaning of a word is almost always the sum of the meanings of the syllables and (or) letters that make up the word
    It is shown that the original meanings of Russian words are primordial and motivated. The etymological theory of mass borrowing of Russian words from foreign languages ​​is refuted. Arguments are presented proving the likelihood of the directly opposite process of borrowing Russian words in foreign languages.

    The etymological dictionary of Shansky is critically examined. The examples show that many articles in the dictionary are superficial and unconvincing.