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The idea is stronger than a weapon

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[right] The ideas of communism do not know the barriers, they can not be shot or imprisoned behind a thick prison bars. They conquer the minds and hearts of people, becoming an invincible force.
N. Khrushchev / right]


Identify the problem

Russia began fighting in Syria against the fanatical terrorists of the "IG". The opinion that prevails in the vast expanses of the Russian Internet reads like this: "We are so cool, ISIS will soon otgrebet in full, our army is the coolest, Putin is a superman, he said at the UN Assembly and did, ah well done! Putin is doing everything right and the one who does not support our "sunflower" is the enemy of our country! "

I was amazed at how much joy and comments there were about it. And this "joy" flows from all TV programs, magazines and newspapers. Lenin spoke about this:

"There is nothing more smug than smug optimism."


However, I would like to understand the reasons for the desire of the majority to support military operations in the Middle East.

1. People like that Russia has declared itself. Loud. I will not evaluate all aspects, they are familiar to many. I can only say about the rear. To speak out loud, you need a strong economy with a certain margin of fat. Unfortunately, things are not as strong as we (and the West) want to be shown in order to conduct combat operations.

2. There is confidence in the majority that such an action would be a good start for the future. As in economic terms (this is about future military contracts from Syria, Iraq, Iran and most likely Egypt and the closure of the Qatari gas pipeline project that destroys Gazprom’s plans in Europe), and political ones (about recognizing Russia as an equal player in the "Big Game" ").

Actually, the reasons for this end. The disadvantages are political, economic isolation, openly weak eastern allies (the east is a special world), but the most important thing is that Russia was dragged into a "showdown" where no one could find the "extreme", but the whole world now knows what will be asked for the result from the Russian Federation. And all this will happen against the backdrop of Russophobic hysteria, which inflated the West.

Moreover, the fact that the Russians will now clean up the mess that the Western "partners" created is not worrying about the Russians, since now is the peak of the emotional explosion, very skillfully supported by our media. Sadly, of course, but this fact can be understood, since by historical to the standards of the Russian Federation-this is a teenager. So, if we continue the analogy with a person, then an “emotional explosion (affect) is characterized by a rapidly developing emotional reaction of high intensity with a weakening of volitional control over behavior and an easier transition to action. This is a short-term phenomenon, after which there comes a breakdown or even complete indifference, drowsiness " In our country, this usually happens - either euphoria or depression. It’s somehow impossible to stay in the middle. The bitter “scum” will begin much later, and now the people are rejoicing and rejoicing that the Russian Aerospace Forces will be able to solve the problem with the self-proclaimed “state” by bombarding strongholds with bombs.

Do not be so naive fellow citizens. Military actions change fanatics impossible. Especially those who are willing to die for their ideas. Once Victor Hugo said:

"You can break the sword, you can not destroy the idea."


There are only two options.

Either offer your powerful and beautiful Idea, which will win the hearts and thoughts of, in fact, unhappy people (I do not condone terrorism, but such "bloody decisions" come to people only when ALL OTHER normal life options have ended). And you need to start with yourself, show this idea in your country. Why in your country - you will understand from the rest of the text of the article.

Either burn down the entire Middle East, on which the Caliphate again raises its head (the main thing at this time is not to tear the navel over to our own country, in which already stagnation and attenuation in the economy).

History and consequences

Let me remind you that the ideas of the "World" Caliphate (in various manifestations) periodically arise over hundreds of years. And at the same time, “ideological perversions”, discrediting the very essence of Islam, were always seen. An example is Wahhabism, which originated in the 18 century and was caused by the exacerbation of socio-economic and political conditions between parts of the Bedouin population in Arabia. But any idea can be brought to insanity. Now the adherents of this trend oppose themselves not only to the Islamic world, but also to the states within which they live. I will give a couple of quotes:

“Now, Wahhabism is understood not as a concrete and clearly expressed religious idea, but as a set of ideologies of Islamic origin, advocating extreme intolerance towards other believers and dissenters. And justifying their murder. Simply put, traditional Muslims get along with representatives of other confessions, but Wahhabis do not. ”


“The central place in the ideological platform of Wahhabism’s supporters is the concept of non-recognition of any authority deviating from the sharia regulations.”


In other words, supporters of this trend will never calm down and do not accept the rules established in Russia. However ... Legally, Wahhabism is not prohibited in Russia. And it is not prohibited, which means it is allowed. There are several regional prohibiting laws (adopted in Chechnya and Dagestan), but they are of local application and even contradict federal legislation. Why in Russia have not yet banned Wahhabism, if it challenges the foundations of the state? There may be several answers, but I would single out one. It is necessary for someone, and at the very "Olympus"! Most likely, it is needed as a kind of “vent” or “scapegoat”, on which one can “dump” the accumulated sins and divert the attention of the population.

Of course, the Wahhabis in the Russian Federation have not yet reached the point to which the Americans brought the people of Iraq, where, in fact, "ISIL" emerged. However, there are tendencies of a similar spread of "viral" ideology in Mother Russia. In one of the issues of the program “Time” on the “First Channel” it was said that the number of Wahhabis in the Russian Federation exceeded 700 thousand people, and their centers operate in all regions. The most powerful, in addition to the North Caucasus, operate in Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Mordovia, Saratov, Orenburg, Penza and Nizhny Novgorod regions.

“In fact, jihad on the creation of an Islamic caliphate on the territory of the country begins to unfold in the center of Russia and in the Volga region,” said Mufti Farid Khazrat Salman, head of the Council of Ulams of the Russian Association of Islamic Consensus.


This is the situation we have in Russia, where, as it turns out, there is enough of its problems associated with the flow, very similar to the "IG". And then there will be a relevant question that has already been asked in the comments on the site: "And where were you, the young ones, were when these sharashka were able to crush in the bud? In other words, why are you struggling with the consequences, but not with the root cause?" And indeed, where are the actions of our authorities when something bad is ripening in Russia itself? The answer is simple - the authorities decided to fight weapons against the ideas of "IG" which for some reason became attractive to many residents of the Russian Federation. And Russia will fight in the territory of Syria and Iraq. Our house, as usual, will be put out later, when it will be late.

Therefore, the conclusion is brewing very bad. The operation launched in Syria will not solve the causes, but will only hit the "tails" - the militants. So without removing the root causes - their idea.

So, maybe you need to listen to Catherine II, who ruled 34 of the year on the “throne of Russia”. She said:
"They are not fighting with ideas with guns."


The idea is stronger than a weapon


Offers

Our ancestors have already faced similar crises. The latest example, and the brightest, is the October Revolution. The Bolsheviks rather successfully solved the issue of the “bad royal past” and offered their way. And so successfully, that they managed to prove to the people that it was still simply impossible to live.

"The surest way to discredit a new idea and harm it is to bring it to the point of absurdity in the name of protecting it" (Vladimir Lenin).


I think the task of diplomats, representatives of traditional Islam of Russia, the government, philosophers, finally, should be similar. It is necessary to level - i.e. destroy, smooth out the differences between the views on Islam, which is propagated by the "IG" and the same Wahhabis, should begin the propaganda and ideological processing of "potential followers of the" IG, "you should start publishing books and articles. In other words - to popularize Russian traditional Islam through the media, mosques and madrasas.

And this should be done only in conjunction with the New Idea.

"Human activity is fruitless and insignificant when it is not inspired by a high idea" (Nikolai Chernyshevsky).


As I wrote above, you need to start with yourself. We must give an Idea or Ideology for our citizens.

Moreover, such an Idea, which would be in harmony with the mentality of the Russians, is understandable and transparent for everyone who would get acquainted with it. The idea with which we would start to build a State, and would not continue "to finish the remnants of the Soviet legacy." I will not say that I have a ready Idea, it would be too presumptuous. However, if the thinking part of the people, which understands the logic and interrelation of events, begins to look for options and begins to unite, then the Idea will surely “mature”.

"State power is impossible without the implementation of the national idea" (Peter Struve).


Unfortunately, our society is still devoid of ideas, moreover, the country does not even have the image of the state that our descendants should have. While we are eating the "old stocks". But they will end sometime, don't they? So you need to think now.

Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote: "Without a cohesive, common, moral, and civic idea, it is impossible to bring up a generation and put it into life!"


Here we must give it to Russia, otherwise we can never defend ourselves against other Ideas. And we certainly will not be able to fight off the Word weapons. For an example, do not go far. Our ancestors won Fascism, but the communist ideology was not able to crush the ideas of Nazism, because it itself “gave ends” and did not become the best example of how to live. Proving its vitality in practice. And now, after 70 years, these ideas, sadly, are shared by some of our people, luring young people into their ranks. Moreover, the state, realizing that it was difficult to fight with ideas, decided to ban symbolism. But it did not give (did not invent) anything in return. Agree that because of this prohibition, fewer nationalists are gone. They just went into the shadows. Until the time.

“Anyone who retires from ideas ultimately remains at the same feelings” (Johann von Goethe).


And it’s too bad that the main idea of ​​the 21 century in Russia turned out to be unprincipled, fixed by law. It simply will not allow to adequately react to any attack on the ideological front, leaving only the possibility of "saber-rattling". And this needs to be corrected, since our citizens deliberately choose another side.
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  1. Tatarus
    Tatarus 8 October 2015 05: 32 New
    +5
    Everything is simple. Only two ideas are struggling in the world. Good and evil. Order and Chaos. We offered the world Order. And if we are for Good and Order, then who is against us. What are they for? After all, there will be no third party. The world is built on dualism.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 8 October 2015 06: 08 New
      +3
      And what is order? And from what is born? Just to say that we are in order is to say nothing.
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 8 October 2015 06: 34 New
        -1
        From ordering to disordered laughing I almost broke my tongue.
    2. Georgy USSR
      Georgy USSR 8 October 2015 06: 08 New
      +6
      The article with the smell of rotten, definitely minus
      1. Blondy
        Blondy 8 October 2015 07: 08 New
        +3
        Actually, if without urapatriotism, then Russia simply reminded everyone that there is such a thing as international law, and what is its difference from the self-proclaimed international coalition.
    3. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 8 October 2015 06: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: Tatarus
      We offered the world Order

      This is not an idea, Hitler also proposed an order ...
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 8 October 2015 10: 38 New
        0
        We have offered the world the TRUTH !!!
        Here is our main idea and strength !!!
        Because the world is already choked with lies!
        1. nils
          nils 8 October 2015 16: 46 New
          +5
          Quote: viktorrymar
          We have offered the world the TRUTH !!!
          Here is our main idea and strength !!!
          Because the world is already choked with lies!


          Putin - "Russia needs the JUST principles of the organization of society."

          Putin - “Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin led the process of fundamental changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a rebirth. It became a civilized open state. It was at this time that Russia was born open and THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE.

          Putin - "The death of Yegor Timurovich Gaidar is a bereavement for Russia, for all of us. There is no true citizen and patriot who made key decisions that determined the future of the country. The bright memory of Yegor Gaidar will forever remain in the hearts of everyone who knew this wonderful person. "

          Putin - "Chubais and his associates managed to radically change the structure of the economy. I believe someone should have done what they did. They changed the whole structure of the Russian economy and essentially changed the pace of development."

          Putin - "Any speculation about a revision or audit of privatization results allegedly being prepared in Russia is unfounded."

          It's true! The idea of ​​achieving maximum comfort - in life!
          Here is our main idea and strength !!!
          And the world was choked with lies!
          1. holding
            holding 9 October 2015 19: 14 New
            +1
            Glory to Pekin!
    4. little girl15
      little girl15 8 October 2015 09: 04 New
      +2
      It is interesting and how the author is going to re-educate radical Islamists, sponsored by the states known to us?
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 8 October 2015 10: 17 New
      0
      since by historical standards the Russian Federation is a teenager
      I do not understand at all. Why the Russian Federation is taken separately from the whole of Russian statehood, which, thank God, has been over a thousand years old. Yes, and stop whining already. Nobody said it was easy. And for the truth, Russian people and die - not sadness. That's just the mind everything needs to be done and the whole conversation. soldier
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 10 October 2015 07: 09 New
        0
        The point is that the main national idea of ​​the Russians is to build a just and sincere system and state. Now the system in Russia is unfair, and therefore the state will fight with all the forces with the carriers of the idea of ​​justice. That’s why Russians survive from their lands, invading hordes of Caucasians and Central Asians, therefore they can commit any crimes with impunity and that’s why article 282 is called Russian. Because the idea of ​​a just system automatically means the end of the power of the current oligarchic clique.
  2. venaya
    venaya 8 October 2015 05: 36 New
    +7
    "They don’t fight ideas with guns."

    And always have to fight. It is not our choice with what weapons the enemy comes into our home; it is necessary to learn to fight with what fate gives us. Stay where you stand and fight as you can.
  3. Denis DV
    Denis DV 8 October 2015 05: 37 New
    +5
    Do not be so naive, fellow citizens. Military action is impossible to change fanatics. Especially those who are ready to die for their ideas.


    As it turned out, they are not ready to die for their ideas. This is just a screen concealing banal greed and thirst for blood sad article negative
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 8 October 2015 06: 01 New
      +1
      As it turned out, they are not ready to die for their ideas. This is just a screen hiding banal greed and thirst for blood: sad article negative


      IMHO, you are right, although I would not put a minus article. A lot of work has been done, however, it is leveled precisely by the initial incorrect postulate. Indeed, the backbone of ISIS troops is likely to be mercenaries, not fanatics. Doesn't anyone think that ISIS is led by real fanatics? But where do they come from in the Saudi elites, pampering themselves with petrodollars? And where else can the leadership of ISIS come from, if not from the Saudi elite, who else has money for BV? And, as soon as the leaders themselves are not fanatics, they will fear their follower fanatics and defend themselves against them as mercenaries. What we see. Yes, there are fanatics of Wahhabism on BV, but they are only pawns - consumables. And they will understand this as soon as the flight of mercenaries and the elite begins. And then ISIS will fall apart. If Hitler did not believe in the ideas of Nazism that he instilled in the Germans, would he be able to keep the German population in his will to the very end?
      Therefore, the actions of the Russian oligarchic authorities are absolutely correct. In general, compared to the failed domestic policy, actions on the external front look like a triumph. And now the only question remains is whether Assad’s troops, using the high-tech assistance from Russia, will be able to pinch their tail to ISIS mercenaries and leaders so that they feel the danger to their loved ones and leave the fanatics to their fate. In this case, the lack of organization and supply of fanaticism will not be able to withstand the power of states and will gradually be destroyed. If Assad cannot win, then everything that is voiced in the article will come into force. The weakness of the rear of the Russian Federation, which is determined by both the lack of an idea and the failed economic policy of the authorities. In general, we already passed this option - during WWII.
      1. BMW
        BMW 8 October 2015 07: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: alicante11
        In general, we already passed this option - during WWII.

        I also want to say about this in the comments, but for some reason everyone thinks:
        1. People like that Russia has declared itself. Loud. I will not evaluate all aspects; they are familiar to many. I will only say about the rear. To speak out loud, you need a strong economy with some reserve of fat. Unfortunately, everything is not as strong as we (and the West) want to show in order to conduct military operations.
        2. Most have confidence that such an action will be a good start for the future. Both economically (this is about future military contracts from Syria, Iraq, Iran and most likely Egypt and the closure of the Qatari gas pipeline project that destroys Gazprom’s plans in Europe), and political (about recognizing Russia as an equal player in the Big Game ")

        Personally, to me, GDP as a person is very nice, but the absence of at least some kind of idea or ideology or a clear path that we need to follow causes rejection. In addition, I do not separate the GDP from our top, I consider it a conductor of the idea of ​​a state aligarhat, which is simply disastrous for the future of Russia, because all movements of the ruling class are directed only today, well, at best, tomorrow, and not so much into the future.
        There is no plan to follow, there will be no road, but only throwing from side to side.
        Either GDP should give us a plan, and clearly follow it, or its next presidency will lead us to death. By the way, when they say that we do not have a leader, except for GDP - a lie, there are no irreplaceable people.
        1. BMW
          BMW 8 October 2015 07: 43 New
          +2
          PS. The author plus, a very competent political and social analysis, so to speak, looks at the root.
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 8 October 2015 09: 45 New
          +4
          I do not separate the GDP from our top, I consider it a conductor of the idea of ​​a state aligarhat, which is simply disastrous for the future of Russia, because all movements of the ruling class are directed only today, well, at best, tomorrow, and not so much into the future.


          Well, he himself said that he works like a slave in galleys. And it is clear that he works for those who are in power.
          At the expense of the future, in principle, theoretically, with a successful foreign policy, the situation at the level of WWII can be preserved. For example, if it had been possible to create an alliance between Russia and Germany, tsarism could have decayed for a very long time. The very West, thanks to the victory over the USSR, managed to hold out extra time in a completely deadlock economic situation. External pressure is necessary to destroy even the weakest and most rotten regime. However, even if the Russian oligarchy survives, this is not the best option, especially for the people.

          By the way, when they say that we do not have a leader, except for GDP - a lie, there are no irreplaceable people.


          And GDP - with all due respect to its merits - is not a leader. He is a crisis manager. He would be a leader if he would lead the people, and not plow the oligarchs. He could be called a leader at the beginning of the 2000's, but now everything is already too clearly visible who Mr. Putin is. Yes, he himself does not hide it. The words about the "slave in the galleys" are his words.
          1. BMW
            BMW 8 October 2015 12: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: alicante11
            External pressure is necessary to destroy even the weakest and most rotten regime.

            And now there is no such pressure?
            Why am I against pulling into a war in Syria, the situation there is stalemate, how everything will turn no one will say. This is a gamble, as always by chance. The Middle East, the other one that was a swirl. We have no serious allies, but many enemies. In addition, there is no strong rear that can simply collapse. If our economy collapses, we are pushed very far. In addition, bureaucracy can simply merge GDP at a crucial moment, and this is very real, since they began to clean up, it seems that it’s very awful and there is no unity.
            Yes, I was very outraged by the comments, in which at first they said that Assad needed to be helped, but not harnessed for him, and after the start of the strikes they suddenly became ready and for a ground war and the sea was generated. It is also striking that there was a bad reaction to the silence of Washington, it was just pretended that it was a surprise to them, because Western rress wrote about this, and we have nothing to say. I’m just afraid that we would not be deliberately dragged into this.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 8 October 2015 14: 43 New
              -2
              And now there is no such pressure?


              I mean the lack of pressure in case the GDP manages to fight off the attacks of the West.

              Why am I against pulling into a war in Syria, the situation there is stalemate, how everything will turn no one will say. This is a gamble, as always by chance.


              And I - for. Because this is a chance, a chance to enter the socialist river a second time. Then Russia was also occupied by a non-Russian (and how much Russian blood was in Niki # 2?) Corrupt and decaying tsarist regime. Which restrained its development like fetters. The same can be said now about the oligarchic RF, which does not allow Russia to develop. And then it was possible to free Russia, to direct it on the path of development, and the people on the path of service. Unfortunately, after the death of the IVS, the new elite turned off this path, which led to the destruction of the USSR and the new occupation of Russia. But if it succeeded then, it may succeed now. And for this we need to properly exhaust our main enemies - the West. So that they could not organize an effective campaign against us when Russia is split. And GDP is doing very well with this. And therefore, anyone who longs for the liberation of Russia should welcome the escalation of World War III and be the best fighter of the oligarchic army, because it was not for nothing that all the red commanders were St. George cavaliers. Yes, there is a danger that we Russia will not survive this war. But, in the end, the oligarchic RF will kill Russia anyway. Slowly but surely, as capitalism killed the United States, I personally don’t really want to be like the Americans, or my children or grandchildren to be like them. So the chance must be used.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 8 October 2015 14: 53 New
                0
                Quote: alicante11
                anyone who craves the liberation of Russia should welcome the escalation of World War III

                "Shiz mowed our ranks," no?

                Quote: alicante11
                Yes, there is a danger that we Russia will not survive this war. But, in the end, the oligarchic RF will kill Russia anyway

                - we live poorly and still when the thread dies
                - let's jump from the ninth floor. Suddenly we (if we survive at all), after that we’ll better live?

                Total: you carry fierce nonsense. Senile insanity, or just an overdose of strong?
                1. alicante11
                  alicante11 8 October 2015 15: 08 New
                  0
                  "Shiz mowed our ranks," no?


                  No, it happened once already, why not repeat it?

                  let's jump from the ninth floor. Suddenly we (if we survive at all), after that we’ll better live?


                  The odds are unequal in both survival and living better.
                  Forgive me, but if the President of the Russian Federation is a "slave in the galleys" of the oligarchs. Then who are WE? Do you like that all sorts of thieves called businessmen or jesters from the pop party hang you out as cattle and constantly point you to this? I don’t.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 8 October 2015 15: 18 New
                    0
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Do you like that all sorts of thieves called businessmen or jesters from the pop party hang you out as cattle and constantly point you to it

                    I put it on them. Parted yes

                    They are separately, I am separately. Try to do the same, very conducive ..

                    Quote: alicante11
                    The odds are unequal in both survival and living better

                    Right Jump from the ninth floor compared with the Third World - it will not be enough ..

                    Okay. Happily, nothing depends on your calls. What can not but rejoice laughing
                    1. alicante11
                      alicante11 9 October 2015 01: 11 New
                      0
                      They are separately, I am separately. Try to do the same, very conducive ..


                      The fact of the matter is that this is not so. Starting from crossing at work or when looking for work, when they and their sixes can humiliate an employee / applicant with impunity and ending with the simple fact that even without listening to pop music and not going to concerts, you still serve the clowning party through advertising, the cost of which is included in the goods, which you buy.
                      1. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 9 October 2015 01: 52 New
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                        Quote: alicante11
                        Starting from an intersection at work or when looking for work, when they and their sixes can humiliate an employee / applicant with impunity

                        Um .. did not notice. I guess I was just lucky wink

                        Quote: alicante11
                        without even listening to pop music and not going to concerts, you still serve the clownery through advertising, the cost of which is included in the goods you buy

                        This is when "pop" advertises, for example, sausage, and the cost of advertising (which paid "pop") falls on the cost of sausage?

                        Well, what can I say .. you dig deep .. and if you dig more, what that sausage is made of, for example .. you don’t want to eat it at all ..

                        I repeat: all these horror stories come from a lack of real life impressions. And a lot of free time. In the absence of global material problems. IMHO.

                        They (horror stories) are deeply parallel to me, because just quite real problems are enough.

                        Voooot yes
                2. alicante11
                  alicante11 8 October 2015 15: 38 New
                  +1
                  let's jump from the ninth floor. Suddenly we (if we survive at all), after that we’ll better live?


                  Her chances are comparable; exaggeration must also be possible.
                  I don’t know about you, but I personally don’t like that in Russia even the President is a “slave in the galleys” of the oligarchs. Think, then who are WE? I do not like that the thieves called businessmen and clowns from the pop party have become the elite in Russia. And that they have the audacity to consider people cattle. So, IMHO, it’s worth the risk.
      2. Denis DV
        Denis DV 8 October 2015 07: 48 New
        0
        An idea is a shell, what do we want to put into it? In addition, any idea will have a different interpretation, undergo transformation and discredit from the outside (which we also went through). The idea easily degenerates into a banal cult of something or someone. The principles, the law are important - without them, any idea will remain just an idea, a theoretical operating time recourse
        1. Denis DV
          Denis DV 8 October 2015 08: 10 New
          0
          Ideas - eat at least one place: right and left, religious, fascist ... for every color and taste! As one character from the movie "Two Comrades Served" said - "I saw this good, if only I showed fat" hi
        2. Captain45
          Captain45 8 October 2015 08: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Denis DV
          An idea is a shell, what do we want to put into it? In addition, any idea will have a different interpretation, undergo transformation and discredit from the outside (which we also went through). The idea easily degenerates into a banal cult of something or someone. The principles, the law are important - without them, any idea will remain just an idea, a theoretical operating time of recourse

          You are right, each interpretation in its own way of such a seemingly canonical and unshakable book as the Bible has generated so many sects, currents and trends in Christianity that there is no counting.
  4. Barboskin
    Barboskin 8 October 2015 06: 01 New
    +2
    Although I disagree with many things, thanks to the author, I gave food for thought.
    The idea that did not take over the masses from the dead is V.I. Lenin.
    It’s not enough to come up with an idea, it still needs to be instilled in the people, the Bolsheviks were able to do it, but the interim government and the White Guard movement do not!
  5. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 8 October 2015 06: 02 New
    +1
    Why, Putin is actively moving Orthodoxy.
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 8 October 2015 06: 29 New
      +2
      "Why, Putin is actively moving Orthodoxy."

      Obviously because he is Orthodox. And yet, it does not allow to oppress other religions, confirming the opening after the restoration of the main temple mosque in the center of Moscow. How many streets were blocked.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 8 October 2015 08: 15 New
      0
      Why, Putin is actively moving Orthodoxy.
      Do you want to say retracts? It moves Islam, for an atheist doesn’t care what gods pray.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 8 October 2015 09: 51 New
        +1
        Do you want to say retracts? It moves Islam, for an atheist doesn’t care what gods pray.


        Come on, how many buildings were transferred to mosques and how many to Orthodox churches? Orthodoxy is being pushed by the priests themselves. Grabbers in robes. It is very difficult to find among the priests a normal and sincerely believing person. Everyone is looking for profit from the church, and so the LLC “ROC”, with all the attributes of the “new Russians,” gets it. Golden crosses with chains, diamond watches, roads of foreign cars ... Can such people give an IDEA? They can only ward off the idea of ​​Orthodoxy.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 8 October 2015 10: 26 New
          +1
          Come on
          cool. We attribute everything good in the country to Putin, We will blame others for our shortcomings.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 8 October 2015 14: 46 New
            +1
            cool. We attribute everything good in the country to Putin, We will blame others for our shortcomings.


            Well, I don’t ascribe ALL to him. GDP has a lot of merit both at the beginning of 2000 and now. But his work for the oligarchy - it can take all his work to the wind.
      2. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 8 October 2015 12: 03 New
        +1
        Moves like a stick figure on a board, I mean.
  6. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 8 October 2015 06: 04 New
    +3
    Quote: Tatarus
    Everything is simple. Only two ideas are struggling in the world. Good and evil. Order and Chaos. We offered the world Order. And if we are for Good and Order, then who is against us. What are they for? After all, there will be no third party. The world is built on dualism.

    Somehow no one says that he is fighting for evil. Everything for good. But the concept of good is different for everyone.
    In our country, they still haven’t come up with an ideology. And the struggle with us is ongoing. EVEN under the Soviet regime, although they were engaged in this, they could not take into account much. But now there is more. All development in all areas should be at the same level. And not so, for example, a hypertrophied stomach with underdeveloped vision. Or other similar options. You can not ideology for later.
  7. populist
    populist 8 October 2015 06: 41 New
    0
    Wahhabis, we need to start propaganda and ideological treatment of "potential followers of the Islamic State", we need to start printing books and articles, in other words, to popularize Russian traditional Islam through the media, mosques and madrassas.

    The author has a rather poor idea of ​​what Islam is and suggests extinguishing a fire with kerosene.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 10 October 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      Chuck Noris is so cool that he put out the fire with gas ...
  8. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 8 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +1
    Plus the author, looking at the root without pink binoculars, I already wrote that the wedge in Syria should be knocked out with a wedge and offer the people the ideas of internationalism and communism
  9. Bekas1967
    Bekas1967 8 October 2015 08: 14 New
    -2
    To eradicate radical religious movements it is necessary to raise the level of well-being of the people! What nafig propaganda ?? What nafig ideology ?? People go disbelieving in justice ...- why does one get away with everything: crime, theft, violence ??? and the other is put in a sack of potatoes? For five years! There is no decent work, salary, conditions for raising children ... And at the same time, life, luxury, abundance is in full swing ... But not for Everyone, only for the elect. Here they go for social justice, but fall into the hands of frank fanatics ... The best ideology is Equal Opportunities For Everyone! One Law for Everyone!
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 8 October 2015 08: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Bekas1967
      To eradicate radical religious movements it is necessary to raise the level of well-being of the people! What nafig propaganda ?? What nafig ideology ??

      Very much to do with it, if you plan to raise the welfare of the whole people, this is one ideology, and if a certain group of people, in exchange for loyalty, this is a completely different ideology.
      1. BMW
        BMW 8 October 2015 10: 06 New
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        Quote: rosarioagro
        if you plan to raise the welfare of the whole people

        Ideology is needed, just for this.
        Quote: rosarioagro
        if a certain group of persons, in exchange for loyalty

        For this, ideology is not needed, just the absence of it, and provides the maximum concentration of power and money in a narrow circle of people, this is characteristic of the process of accumulation of capital and its concentration in one hand. When this process is completed, there is an urgent need for the adoption of ideology or its elements. A vivid example of the United States, where elements of socialism were adopted, while at the same time forming the image of the enemy. Now in the United States there is a smooth process of dismantling the elements of socialism, as in Europe, because there was no reference point, while the formation of new images of enemies.
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 8 October 2015 13: 03 New
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          Quote: bmw
          For this, ideology is not needed

          This is the ideology of money, gesheft, drank the budget and the country
          1. BMW
            BMW 8 October 2015 14: 41 New
            0
            This is not ideology, but personal gain, worship of the golden calf.
  10. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 8 October 2015 08: 22 New
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    "Moreover, the fact that the Russians will now clean up the mess that the Western" partners "created is not worrying about the Russians, since now is the peak of the emotional explosion, very skillfully supported by our media."
    As for the idea as a weapon, for me as a Soviet person, the truth is common. But the author ignores our confrontation (I don’t know this as an idea or just geopolitics), and we always have to “remove that mess” due to the instinct of self-preservation. Since he already exists and something needs to be done with him (there is no need to scuffle). While the opponent will have the opportunity to arrange it for his own benefit, he will do it. Therefore, I like the slogan: "Fashington must be destroyed!" And "cleaning the territory" is partly the implementation of this slogan. But of course, in this case, following the initiative of the adversary (i.e., she is on his side). The slogan can be fully implemented only through the implementation of its initiatives. And here everything is useful, and the necessary ideas, and the belittling of the buck, etc., etc.
  11. Riv
    Riv 8 October 2015 08: 28 New
    +3
    “They don’t fight ideas with guns” - would anyone be kind enough to clarify when and to whom Catherine the Great said this, or where she wrote? The very idea of ​​a war with encyclopedists would hardly have crossed her mind. And from the military conflicts of that time, only the American Revolution is suitable for quotation. Catherine then refused to give Russian soldiers to England. The conflict with Turkey was more important, but ... honestly: perhaps, if the Russian troops then civilized the state of New York, we would not have the problems that we have. Catherine, you were wrong!
    So I have strong doubts about the quote. Most likely it is sucked by the author from the finger, like the whole article.

    Actually, in the future, we had to deal with French ideas anyway with the help of guns ... And then crush tanks with the adherents of the ideas of a certain Aryan ... And now our planes solve the problem with the ideas of the Islamic state. It seems that the Russian gun is still a good way to deal with ideas of various kinds?
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 8 October 2015 08: 36 New
      -1
      Quote: Riv
      if the Russian troops then civilized the state of New York, we would not have the problems that we have. Catherine, you were wrong!

      Well, the Russian troops took Berlin under Elizabeth, Paris in 1815, fought in World War I on the side of the French, and what are the Paris and Berlin provinces?
      1. Riv
        Riv 8 October 2015 09: 31 New
        +1
        In the end, the Warsaw Governor General had a place to be. And Crimea before joining Russia was also no one's.
      2. Riv
        Riv 8 October 2015 09: 31 New
        +1
        In the end, the Warsaw Governor General had a place to be. And Crimea before joining Russia was also no one's.
  12. linadherent
    linadherent 8 October 2015 08: 48 New
    0
    Yeah, but the author seems like a latent liberal ... negative No, of course, caution is not bad, but everything is good in moderation !!!
  13. nekot
    nekot 8 October 2015 09: 05 New
    0
    The article is interesting, but somehow everything is mixed up, flies, cutlets and green)) The idea that there is nothing to be glad that we in Syria took part was justified more emotionally by the theses that we could not afford it, but everyone was happy because his teenage psychology and Putin’s insidious propaganda machine. Next comes a really disturbing fact about the spread of Wahhabism in Russia. The third part is water, which has been poured for a long time and unsuccessfully for everyone. Everyone agrees that an Idea is needed, but no one can formulate and propose it. As a result, the general meaning of the article boils down to the need to combat Wahhabism in Russia and the need for an Idea. Why okayana operation of the videoconferencing in Syria is not clear, most likely just an occasion once again to write about the idea))
  14. Gavril
    Gavril 8 October 2015 09: 11 New
    0
    Well, let the author go to the Wahhabis with his idea
  15. Rostislav
    Rostislav 8 October 2015 10: 26 New
    +1
    You can treat the article in different ways, but the author is certainly right in this:
    it is very bad that the main idea of ​​the 21st century in Russia turned out to be the lack of ideality enshrined in law.

    A GOAL is needed in order to move forward.
  16. NordUral
    NordUral 8 October 2015 11: 01 New
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    What are so many words about? What is Russia without an idea now? so without you know it. And what is our fate being decided in Syria? So you know it, but you can’t accept it.
    And we have an idea, or rather it was, it just needs to be returned to our country - social justice and socialism.
  17. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 8 October 2015 11: 14 New
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    The author highlights the right things, but in a somewhat narrow spectrum.
    And I did not understand this at all:
    "It’s sad, of course, but this fact can be understood, since by historical standards the Russian Federation is a teenager."
    It has been completely reliably proved that we are the ancestors of the most ancient civilizations and, AT LEAST, we are more than 7500 years old - From the Creation of the World in the Star Temple.
    Although before this event, chronology is also available.
    More ancient civilizations are not found anywhere on the planet. This is a fact.
    So what did the author mean? Not the statehood of the new Russia, which is 25 years old! This is just stupid.
    And, in general, it smells of an article with a liberoid ...
    1. -Barbarian-
      8 October 2015 14: 21 New
      +2
      You tell it to history books. After all, it is for them to teach her to us. But there is NO there is nothing about our proud past. He was struck out. Forgot. They refused.
      And what you know, at least about the order of numbers in the old calendar, does YOU the honor and not the state, which (if there was continuity of generations among the rulers) would not write its own version of the story for each new ruler.
      As a result, for example, according to our "shepherd" Cyril: we, it turns out, are barbarians and savages! We had nothing of our own ...
      Although this is not so!
      After all, what is the matter, as I think. Christians in Russia for a very long time destroyed any evidence of the Vedic past of our ancestors. And they did it so well that now even the idea that our people were great (the same Tartaria) is simply not normally accepted by the majority. And all this because all of us and our ancestors were given a “rewritten” story, trimmed to disgrace. After all, managing a people is easier, especially if you steal from it its past.
      And this is understandable, since we live in a territory where states that arise from time to time profess only one principle - the "Coup Principle". And you, if you studied more than a school course, you could notice it.
      90-e - the revolution and destruction of the USSR.
      1917 - the revolution and the destruction of RI.
      In the empire itself, too, the era of palace coups went from 1725 to 1801 years.
      The Time of Troubles that began under Boris Godunov and the coup again - instead of the Rurikovich - the Romanovs.
      And how princes Rurikovich licked each other you yourself can remember.
      And further, deep into the ages - all the same, all the same. One thing remained the same - rewriting history. Rejection of the past.
      Therefore, our History cannot be represented as a single thread, since each "new" king is a separate historical period. Well, the "thief" cannot afford to reckon with the one from whom he "stole" the throne and its legacy.
      Therefore, we even have a saying "" Ivan, who does not remember kinship. "
      So much for the "new statehood" of the Russian Federation in 25 years. And do you think the new time continued the affairs of the past? Of course not! The new authorities did and will do everything so that we forget the USSR ... This is how it turns out in practice.
      So you were right only in that you knew about the calendar of ancestors, otherwise your idea of ​​the world has a lot of stretch and distortion. I'm talking about the "liberoid darling." If something seems to you, it’s better to cross yourself and remember who in our country is an “adherent of liberalism”. Let me tell you - the "guarantor" and its Caudle, about which you are so unflattering, once expressed themselves:
      "the overwhelming majority in the leadership of our country are traitors to the motherland, collaborators, compradors, and simply greedy and deceitful renegades."
      You already decide who you are for ...
      1. BMW
        BMW 8 October 2015 14: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: -Barbar-
        You already decide who you are for ...

        Well done, right under the breath. Here every second one.
  18. Horn
    Horn 8 October 2015 12: 55 New
    0
    With a pure heart, put a "-". The Jesuit way of delivering big lies disguised in little truth.
    But Lusha regret done, than about not done. In the world they understand and accept only that idea, which is confirmed by real power. What America successfully demonstrates. There are many "protestors". But they really listen to the protest of the one who, in response, can zafindil in the stigma with something heavy. The rest just spit.
    1. -Barbarian-
      8 October 2015 14: 54 New
      0
      Thank you for the Jesuit. In the recent past, these were the most “advanced” and rigidly organized comrades. When they are compared with them, you start to look at yourself from the other side ... You know, as in the advertisement: "What? And what if!"
      I have long noticed that when exchanging opinions on the Internet, without seeing the opponent’s eyes, you can easily throw an accusation against him or pour dirt on him, in short, do everything to make him shit, look against his background - in a white jacket.
      You will not gain respect with this, no matter how hard you try. But the "darling" of you has already reached out .... yes. But this is lyrics.
      I understand that according to the text you have no objections, only emotions. Your choice.
      Concerning the American Idea "Bubble", confirmed by force (aircraft carriers and cruise missiles). They already fed the world with this idea so much that now our people have almost completely “atomized”. Society began to live according to “wolf laws”, where there are no friends, where there is only “profit”. And everyone who "got involved" in this attitude has simply forgotten about Life and Creation. He is faced only with the task of SURVIVING and making money at the same time. And, of course, protect your junk. States do so.
      Do you propose the same way our people live in the future?
      Quote: Horn
      better to regret done than not done

      If you read the article more carefully, you would see a simple message - We must do it! But you just need to first clean up the HOUSE, and not crawl with unresolved internal problems "beyond the three seas"!
      1. Horn
        Horn 9 October 2015 08: 33 New
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        If you don’t put things in order there (don’t kill the terrorist far from your home), you will have to kill him at home. Which does not contribute to order. Something like that...
  19. Straight
    Straight 8 October 2015 14: 22 New
    0
    The author does not take into account the "features of national hunting." The fact is that if we had not crawled out of the den, we would have died there, thanks to our rulers, and especially to the cosmopolitans who had seized power, for whom the Russian and other peoples were drunk! And now (thanks to Obama!) The bear was not only woken up, but also pulled out of the den. Now, circumstances will help us in development. As Putin said, type - here you are, you are pushing us to import substitution. He himself admitted that without Obama they would not have done anything. So think ..
  20. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 8 October 2015 14: 24 New
    0
    Damn, and so from yesterday from a hangover I had to eat a pockmarked bite, and then there’s an article, a pacifist. Ugh, damn it, I’ve ruined my appetite, I’ll have to add it. Well guys for a new initiative.
  21. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 8 October 2015 14: 34 New
    +1
    The author is trying to prove that in order to fight and defeat ISIS, a national idea is needed. I think he confuses the warm with the soft.
  22. xtur
    xtur 8 October 2015 16: 34 New
    +1
    several quotes from an interview with the director of the Center for Strategic Studies of Damascus University from Taleb Ibrahim (for an interview, see the link http://vz.ru/politics/2015/10/5/770623.html):
    - In Syria there does not exist and never existed a Shiite group, a Sunni group or any other. Syria is a secular country where the ideology of Syrian Arab nationalism has long prevailed. In this sense, Russia through its actions supports the statehood of Syria and its citizens. Moscow does not support Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Christians or anyone else in Syria; it supports Syrian society.

    If you look at the victims of ISIS terrorists, you will see that most of them belong to the Syrian Sunni community. Almost 80–90% of the Syrians who were killed are representatives of the Sunni branch of Islam.

    - The Sunni society is divided into two camps. The first is Sufis(my comments - Sufis are like yogis in Islam, this is the most root level) of Syria, there are traditionally a lot of them in Syria. They certainly support the actions of Moscow in the fight against ISIS. The second is people who are subject to Wahhabi and radical influence.

    -There is another group of Sunni society - the Syrian Sunni tribes. The Islamic State applied mass executions and killings against the Sunni tribes in Syria, especially in the Dair ez-Zora region. 70-80% of Syrian Sunni tribes after the atrocities and killings of ISIS terrorists and other radical groups support Russia's efforts and are glad that Moscow has launched an air operation against terrorists oppressing them.

    About 60–70% of Syrian army personnel are Sunnis. Syrian Defense Minister - Sunni. Sunni society in Syria represents Arab secular nationalists, just like the Alawite.
    ----------------------------------------

    I don’t want to assert that the truth he said is the last resort, but it is absolutely necessary to take into account, and his words confirm my position that the conflict in Syria is not a religious war, it is rather an attempt Reformation in Islam. Everything in bold from the quotes clearly confirms that in Syria we are talking about an attempt to forcibly change the religious model - that is, in Syria struggle of ideas by cutting out the carriers of opposing ideas. And in such a situation, military support of one of the parties is quite an effective method of participation in the struggle of ideas.

    I want to remind you that Reformation, that is, the violent demolition of Catholicism in Europe, is the bloodiest page in European history, to which even rampant fascism in its time is far away. In Germany, those times almost every second died. According to the classic of sociology M. Weber, without Protestantism, i.e. without Reformationcapitalism in Europe would not be

    Syria is Germany of times Reformation. Russia has now directly participated in an extremely large-scale process, even by historical standards
  23. onix757
    onix757 8 October 2015 19: 47 New
    +1
    I have been waiting for a long time. Thanks to the author for the article.
    1. Ural resident
      Ural resident 9 October 2015 05: 29 New
      0
      it’s not clear, why did they blame him?
      He raised the topic for discussion - he’s mistaken in something, but if you don’t discuss it, we’ll continue to roam in the dark. Some, I look, have ready-made answers to any questions. And the world is much more complicated. The national idea, of course, is needed and it can only be worked out together. It’s time to get rid of the omnipotence of the golden calf. There are many problems - our society is very different. We must learn to listen to each other.
  24. duchy
    duchy 9 October 2015 12: 25 New
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    There is one good phrase: "What is the strength of the brother, the strength is in the truth", That's what we stand for the truth.