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Western media: today it is no longer possible to distinguish moderate Syrian opposition from ISIS and Al-Nusra Front terrorists

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The US Department of State has once again announced its concern that Russia is "attacking members of the moderate Syrian opposition." The representative of the American Foreign Ministry Mark Toner, journalists were asked to submit materials that would prove that the Russian aviation drops bombs precisely on "moderate opposition". Instead, Toner turned to lengthy and not particularly informative excuses in the style of the unforgettable Jen Psaki (quote RIA News):


Our position on Russia has been clear in recent days. We would welcome a constructive position if it takes up the fight against IS. We did not see them hitting the targets of the IS.


At the same time in the British edition Independent journalist Robert Fisk writes that in a strange way, the West continues to accuse the Russian Space Forces of the Russian Federation for attacking the “moderate Syrian opposition”, having admitted that the project had failed altogether. Fisk writes that “moderate oppositionists” are those who, according to the plan of the West, were to join the so-called free Syrian army, which was prepared by American military instructors. As you know, just recently, the representative of the Pentagon, speaking in the US Senate, announced that "four or five trained representatives of the PAS" ("the Syrian free army) are operating in Syria. Fisk adds that the SSA today does not exist, its main forces have joined either ISIS, or the "al-Nusra Front," or to other terrorist groups operating in Syrian territory.



American edition The Wall Street Journal writes that the attempt to create and support the PAS by Washington was initially doomed to failure. As a matter of argument, the publication argues that the United States did not rely on undercover and intelligence data, and fully relied on the fact that representatives of the SSA overthrew Assad's funds. As a result, as the WSJ writes, today it is not possible to distinguish where the SSA is, and where the terrorists are ISIS and "al-Nusra."

Such publications in the US media can be called, using a popular Internet meme, a gap in the pattern for the American administration.
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  1. Cap-3 USSR
    Cap-3 USSR 6 October 2015 13: 10 New
    19
    So they kicked everyone in the mix with shit.
    And now it's hard to tell who is who?
    1. Tor5
      Tor5 6 October 2015 13: 12 New
      10
      But the United States does not see anything good that is contrary to their interests.
      1. Altona
        Altona 6 October 2015 13: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: Tor5
        But the United States does not see anything good that is contrary to their interests.

        ---------------------
        They also raised Hitler in a democratic way: they created a completely legal party, quite legally held a party in the Reichstag, and quite democratically transferred the post of chancellor to Hitler. But in reality, these were assault troops with weapons or, as the terrorists now say ... Tracing paper is one to one, they only stamp in different places, taking into account national specificity and geographic location ...
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 6 October 2015 13: 30 New
          +4
          All the diabolical hornets fly out of this wasp nest! It must be destroyed.

          AXIS OF EVIL - USA!
        2. Andrey Skokovsky
          Andrey Skokovsky 6 October 2015 13: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Altona
          They also raised Hitler in a democratic way: they created a completely legal party, quite legally held a party in the Reichstag, and quite democratically transferred the post of chancellor to Hitler. But in reality, these were assault troops with weapons or, as the terrorists now say ... Tracing paper is one to one, they only stamp in different places, taking into account national specificity and geographic location ...

          немного не так Гитлера продвигали с использованием незаконных методов при "законном" "демократическом" антураже, только законными методами он никогда не стал бы руководителем Германии.
          1. Altona
            Altona 6 October 2015 23: 06 New
            0
            Цитата: Андрей Скоковский
            немного не так Гитлера продвигали с использованием незаконных методов при "законном" "демократическом" антураже, только законными методами он никогда не стал бы руководителем Германии.

            -----------------
            I will not in one post paint the history of the emergence of social-nationalism in Germany ... Simply, for the thesis you can neglect the details ...
        3. sherp2015
          sherp2015 6 October 2015 14: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          They also raised Hitler in a democratic way: they created a completely legal party, quite legally held a party in the Reichstag, and quite democratically transferred the chancellor to Hitler. But in reality they were assault troops with weapons


          Ukraine in the same scenario, with the same actors
      2. Oleg Sobol
        Oleg Sobol 6 October 2015 13: 34 New
        11
        As a result, according to WSJ, today it is not possible to distinguish where the SSA and where are the ISIS and al-Nusra terrorists.

        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 6 October 2015 15: 21 New
          +4

          Today's puzzle picture: arm the right group of Syrian rebels. smile
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    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 6 October 2015 13: 13 New
      33
      All the same ... It has been proven more than once! bully
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 6 October 2015 13: 19 New
        +6
        without the intervention of otherworldly forces could not do ...
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 6 October 2015 13: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        All the same ... It has been proven more than once!

        Плюс огромный даже не за "3 командных пункта", а за позавчерашнюю статью из "Индепендента" о "великом и пушистом" строителе дорог Бен-Ладене. Всё в тему - "умеренная оппозиция" себя ещё покажет тем, кто её родил и кормит. Афганская уже показала, сирийская - впереди.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 6 October 2015 13: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: MIKHAN
          All the same ... It has been proven more than once!

          Плюс огромный даже не за "3 командных пункта", а за позавчерашнюю статью из "Индепендента" о "великом и пушистом" строителе дорог Бен-Ладене. Всё в тему - "умеренная оппозиция" себя ещё покажет тем, кто её родил и кормит. Афганская уже показала, сирийская - впереди.

          Thank you ... for understanding me! hi
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 October 2015 13: 15 New
      +3
      Here is a good link https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_VIRS_Russia_in_ Syria_group
      чуть пониже там есть "Итоги боевой деятельности" и справа "показать". Разверните и узнаете подробности ударов за каждые сутки.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 6 October 2015 13: 33 New
        +1
        everything is clear here ... https: //www.google.com/maps/d/viewer? mid = z4PF1SFiMPjQ.kFa_qMMdFl48
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 6 October 2015 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Cap-3 USSR
      So they kicked everyone in the mix with shit.
      And now it's hard to tell who is who?

      and the threshing floor is threshing floor ...
    6. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 13: 38 New
      +3
      Does anyone know the names and surnames of the moderate opposition? Though look at the face
      NATO Secretary General today commented on the actions of the Russian military in Syria. Jens Stoltenberg held a press conference at which he expressed his support for contacts between Washington and Moscow in the fight against terrorists in the region.

      In communication with reporters, the head of the alliance showed serious gaps in knowledge about the situation in Syria. In particular, he could not name the leaders of the so-called moderate opposition. Instead, he began to talk extensively about the fragility of the political situation in the region.

      Read more on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1544183/?fb#ixzz3nmbkxxcx
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      2. Samaritan
        Samaritan 6 October 2015 13: 47 New
        +3
        That's who knows exactly all the terrorists in the face and moderate and not so negative
    7. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 6 October 2015 14: 37 New
      +1
      Western media: today it is no longer possible to distinguish moderate Syrian opposition from ISIS and Al-Nusra Front terrorists


      Yes, because there are no differences, stupid people are bl ... oh!
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 6 October 2015 23: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        Western media: today it is no longer possible to distinguish moderate Syrian opposition from ISIS and Al-Nusra Front terrorists


        yes because there are no differencesstupid people bl ... d!

        Американская же (!) народная мудрость - "если что-то крякает как утка, плавает, как утка и выглядит, как утка, то это, вероятнее всего, утка".

        If something behaves like a terrorist, then it is most likely a terrorist, no matter how he is called. Therefore, there are no differences.
    8. inkass_98
      inkass_98 6 October 2015 14: 42 New
      +1
      And now it's hard to tell who is who?

      "Убивайте всех подряд, Господь отберет своих." (С)
      Cynically, but with bandits it is only possible.
    9. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 October 2015 19: 42 New
      0
      Western media: today it is no longer possible to distinguish moderate Syrian opposition from ISIS and Al-Nusra Front terrorists

      The State Department’s next exhortations regarding strikes by the Russian Air Forces against the mythical SSA are directly related to the desire to discredit in the eyes of the public the real actions of the Russian Federation to destroy terrorist shaitans in Syria, and to absolve themselves of responsibility for their lack of politics in the region and mediocre military operations.
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 6 October 2015 13: 12 New
    21
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/148/jccy136.jpg

    And Comrade Sukhov and Abdullah had long been
    in the drum, what are they - wet and that's all ...
    Well, we will follow their example !!!
    1. vladnn2015
      vladnn2015 6 October 2015 13: 15 New
      +2
      As Abdullah said, do so lol
    2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 13: 28 New
      +9
      I suggest new terms:
      moderate terrorists are those who have already died.
      not moderate terrorists, who is not dead yet.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 6 October 2015 13: 38 New
        +1
        On the other side of the barricade, a gun in his hands ... Wet ...
    3. lunoxod
      lunoxod 6 October 2015 13: 46 New
      +4
      Said uncle's name. Abdula is moderate.
    4. ferdiperdozzz
      ferdiperdozzz 6 October 2015 19: 24 New
      0
      This is not like Abdullah, and Said - not?
  3. Evver
    Evver 6 October 2015 13: 14 New
    +4
    Вспомнилось из В. Галыгина : "Выглядят они так, что порой непонятно, где Канделаки, а где вурдалаки..."
    smile
  4. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 October 2015 13: 14 New
    +6
    Excuse me, al-Nusra is not one of the branches of al-Qaeda? What the hell is the moderate opposition?
    Cut to hell so there is no peritonitis!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 6 October 2015 13: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: NEXUS
      Excuse me, al-Nusra is not one of the branches of al-Qaeda? What the hell is the moderate opposition?

      Day before yesterday MIKHAN классную фотографию приводил в качестве примера "умеренной афганской оппозиции". Позволю себе его повторить - уж больно статейка хороша. Нашёл вот перевод - а Бен Ладен-то, оказывается, голубь сизокрылый, и за что его так... http://egaristotel.livejournal.com/91998.html
  5. vovanpain
    vovanpain 6 October 2015 13: 14 New
    10
    He sees his brother-in-law from afar, and for us they are all terrorists on one face and we must drive them into the ground, the more the better.
  6. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 6 October 2015 13: 15 New
    16
    As a well-known journalist of the leading edition of the exclusive and democratic West, after asking permission from the editorial office, he called the General Staff of the Russian Defense Ministry with the question:
    - How do you distinguish between ordinary terrorists and moderate ones during the bombing in Syria?
    The girl switched me to the duty officer, who very politely explained:
    - Even before the start of the military operation in Syria, a decisive decision was made at the General Staff of the Russian Defense Ministry. The essence of this decision is our traditional desire for Russia to strictly abide by the principles of legality and justice. So now, all of our ammunition is divided into two categories: ordinary and moderate. Against ordinary terrorists, we use exclusively conventional ammunition. And against moderate terrorists, we use exclusively moderate ammunition. So don’t worry, we take into account the moderation of some of the terrorists and treat them fairly.
    After these words, it became much easier for me. But I still clarified:
    “Do you really use mild ammunition against moderate terrorists, is that true ?!”
    The interlocutor replied:
    - The word of the Russian officer!
    I felt very good. To bring final clarity, I asked:
    - Tell me, how much do your conventional ammunition differ from the moderate ones?
    - Наши обычные боеприпасы отличаются от боеприпасов умеренных, ровно на столько же, насколько обычные террористы в Сирии, отличаются от террористов умеренных: они покрашены другой краской, в более светлых и более умеренных тонах - ответил офицер и повесил трубку."
    1. soaring
      soaring 6 October 2015 13: 55 New
      0
      laughing Turbo-Rabbit +++++++++++ !!!!! good good good
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 6 October 2015 14: 20 New
      0
      Ettto A MASTERPIECE :)
  7. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 6 October 2015 13: 16 New
    +5
    Funny picture. mattresses began to officially protect terrorists. I wonder how they explain this to their inhabitants.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 6 October 2015 13: 24 New
      +1
      So they gave birth to these bastards.
  8. ram_design
    ram_design 6 October 2015 13: 16 New
    +4
    The concept that they came up with is moderate opposition. Picked up a machine gun, you have already turned into a terrorist! What more reason! To water!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 October 2015 13: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: ram_design
      The concept is what they came up with - moderate opposition

      They will wait with these formulations on the second 11 of September. Then they will drag into the whole world about terrorists and security around the world. Hypocrites, pah.
      1. Sauron80
        Sauron80 6 October 2015 13: 48 New
        +1
        And what is it to wait for? The team will be on top - they will blow up a couple of skyscrapers, the team will not blow up))
  9. engineer74
    engineer74 6 October 2015 13: 17 New
    +2
    It seems that the harmonious choir of the Pentagon, the State Department and the media are falling apart! good
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  11. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 6 October 2015 13: 18 New
    +3
    Begin to ripen? The more such voices, the better. Most of all, the result affects the breakdown of their template. Without a talking room. What ours do.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 October 2015 13: 19 New
    +2
    What is there to understand them! Moderate there, or not moderate. Ishil is PR or mythical SSA, which no one can really find.
    The shaitan will figure out whom to which pan.
  13. Masya masya
    Masya masya 6 October 2015 13: 19 New
    +4
    The Jen Psaki affair lives and thrives!
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 6 October 2015 13: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: Masya Masya
      The Jen Psaki affair lives and thrives!

      Janie was a good girl ....))) bully
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 October 2015 13: 23 New
    +1
    Yes, let them whine.
    It’s like after the crash of a Boeing in Ukraine.
    And like after a bus explosion near Volnovakha.
    Soon everything will calm down.
    Only Turkey will nudge at the expense of another violation of its air border by our aircraft.
    By the way, the Turkish stream is cut in half in favor of the Nord Stream-2.
    Already officially announced.
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 6 October 2015 13: 24 New
    +2
    янки, со своим НАТО и своей "умеренной оппозицией" убирайтесь по-добру по-здорову из Сирии, не путайтесь под ногами не мешайте России наводить конституционный порядок в Сирии...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 October 2015 13: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Volka
      янки, со своим НАТО и своей "умеренной оппозицией" убирайтесь по-добру по-здорову из Сирии, не путайтесь под ногами не мешайте России наводить конституционный порядок в Сирии...

      so no one lets them in there. They blocked the sky and our ships are standing in the ports. The child’s organ is all over their make-up, and not their order in Syria.
  16. shinobi
    shinobi 6 October 2015 13: 26 New
    +2
    Начав удары Россия небрежно так,сорвала маски со всех "миротворцев".Теперь смотрим кто больше всех возмущается и бьём по лицам.
  17. _my opinion
    _my opinion 6 October 2015 13: 28 New
    +1
    I believe that the State Department would also call those who seized power in Ukraine a moderate opposition ... if Yanukovych dispersed all this naughty guy in time ...
  18. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 6 October 2015 13: 28 New
    10
    Когда нет возможности разобраться, " кто есть ху", лучше делать вот так.
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 13: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: twister
      right now Americans are tearing asshole hair, they’ve lost so much money

      Count yeah lol What is it when Obama gives Putin an order to stop bombing the terrorists?
  20. russmensch
    russmensch 6 October 2015 13: 33 New
    +2
    Moderate, not moderate - the doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue
  21. mihasik
    mihasik 6 October 2015 13: 33 New
    +1
    Moderate opposition, these are the four dudes who were prepared by the United States and have not yet had time to dump in ISIS?)
    Ну что сказать: организуйте спасательную операцию этих"умеренных" и вывозите их Штаты, если успеете).
  22. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 6 October 2015 13: 34 New
    +2
    Radical terrorists suffered radical damage ... moderate, respectively, moderate wassat
    But in principle, the same eggs. only in profile.
    И как говорил классик:"Пойдешь налево, придешь направо". Сначала "умеренная" оппозиция Асаду, потом вооруженная борьба против законного президента Сирии, с плавным переходом в ряды ИГИЛ.
  23. 0255
    0255 6 October 2015 13: 39 New
    0
    Islamists do not need to be divided into right and wrong, they need to destroy both am
  24. Balu495
    Balu495 6 October 2015 13: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Cap-3 USSR
    So they kicked everyone in the mix with shit.
    And now it's hard to tell who is who?
  25. roskot
    roskot 6 October 2015 14: 13 New
    0
    All moderate and immoderate in one place. The air will be cleaner.
  26. Surgeon
    Surgeon 6 October 2015 14: 50 New
    0
    Why do we need to understand the varieties of Mr.?
  27. Gray 43
    Gray 43 6 October 2015 15: 05 New
    0
    It seems that the West is watching us so closely that it does not believe its own eyes, it happened in the Crimea, and in the same way they are surprised at the work of our aviation in Syria
  28. afrikanez
    afrikanez 6 October 2015 20: 29 New
    0
    today it is not possible to distinguish where the SSA is and where the ISIS and al-Nusra terrorists are.
    Why should they be distinguished at all? He is a terrorist and a terrorist in Africa. To bomb all the reptiles, and that’s it. Peace is needed, not anarchy with robberies on the highway!