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Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanded the protocol of the 4-hour negotiations of the leaders of the "Norman Four"

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The deputies of the “Samopomich” parliamentary faction demanded that Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin demanded the protocol of the 4-hour talks between the leaders of the “Norman Four” countries in order to verify the authenticity of their statements.




“We have passed the country in concession? But nobody knows about this, including 40 million people (residents of Ukraine)? Taking into account this state of affairs and such statements, we invite the minister (Klimkin) with specific explanations and the 4 protocol of a one-hour talk of the most important people of the world about Ukraine ”, - cites the words of the Chairman of the“ Self-help ”faction Oleg Bereziuk TASS.

In particular, the deputies plan to verify the correctness of the statements of French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, published in the media following the October 2 talks.

“We see statements by the German Chancellor that the Ukrainian parliament should adopt a law on elections in the occupied territories, and this law must be coordinated with the terrorists. This is nonsense, ”said Berezyuk.

He also noted the statements of Hollande about the need, as the deputies stressed, “first hold elections in the occupied territories and grant immunity to the militants”.

During the conciliation council, which was held in parliament, Speaker Vladimir Groisman said that on October 7, Klimkin was invited to the Rada with information about the negotiations held.

“On Friday, meetings were held in the“ Norman format ”in Paris. People's deputies should hear from primary sources, what were the talks, what was happening, what agreements were reached, in what directions, so that no one could speculate on these topics. I am instructing the Verkhovna Rada staff to invite the Foreign Minister to Wednesday, ”said Groysman.

Earlier, the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Peskov, noted that the negotiations were “businesslike” and “saturated”. In particular, they discussed the implementation of the Minsk agreements, gas problems and other crises, including in the field of air communication.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 October 2015 10: 37 New
    +58
    I thought to rest from Ukraine ....)))) It doesn’t work! laughing Well now ... damn it!
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 6 October 2015 10: 41 New
      +26
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I thought to rest from Ukraine ....)))) It doesn’t work! laughing Well now ... damn it!

      it would be necessary to introduce a ban (sanctions) on reports on the outskirts, for a week at least, I do not want to read anything about them laughing
      1. Vend
        Vend 6 October 2015 10: 44 New
        +17
        Svidomo can not believe that they were leaked. And you have to))))
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 6 October 2015 10: 45 New
          +3
          Masochists!
          Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanded a protocol
          Piglet Spanking! laughing
          Apparently they are not enough perversions in the HEAD!
          1. Darkmor
            Darkmor 6 October 2015 10: 58 New
            +31
            demanded from the Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin protocol 4-hour talks of leaders

            In fact, illiterate deputies should have known that in order to gain access to the protocols of the CLOSED negotiations, the consent of all parties to these negotiations, and not some Klimkin, is needed.
            So let them send an official request for the dissemination of information to the embassies of France, Germany and Russia, and if all the embassies are positive, Klimkin, so be it, can get the protocols and put them to self-helpers.
            Not, in principle, Klimkin may put them in such a way, without approval - but then he will have to leave diplomacy forever, and Ukraine itself will be “leper” at any closed meetings.

            That's what the hell I, not a deputy, not a diplomat, I understand these things - but representatives of the highest state. body of Ukraine - no?
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            2. Good me
              Good me 6 October 2015 11: 19 New
              +2
              Quote: Darkmor
              In fact, illiterate deputies should have known that in order to gain access to the protocols of the CLOSED negotiations, the consent of all parties to these negotiations, and not some Klimkin, is needed.


              Based on the primitive logic of the maydauns, Russia is not a decree for them, since we are the aggressor, we can put it on Hollande and Merkel, on the basis that there is a "roof" in Washington ...

              And the petunia will not go against the wishes of "partners from across the ocean." Of course, this guarantees him at least a political death, and the country, another round of destabilization, but that can stop Washington, which needs it all.

              If followed by "Good" because of the puddle, then "Closed", may well be transformed into "Open".
            3. zombiunian
              zombiunian 6 October 2015 13: 53 New
              0
              they just have a semi-permanent organ
        2. WKS
          WKS 6 October 2015 11: 10 New
          +2
          Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanded the protocol of the 4-hour negotiations of the leaders of the "Norman Four"

          So this political heavyweight did not participate in all negotiations. It is necessary to call Powder on the carpet. He knows. Or Holland with Merkel. Well, in the extreme case of Putin, but to these last parliament you need to send an authorized delegation in silk trousers and first agree on an audience.
        3. Lelek
          Lelek 6 October 2015 11: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: Wend
          Svidomo can not believe that they were leaked. And you have to


          The waste bucket smelled impossible, it was time to take it out to the trash bin.
          Mr. Pronka with his whine about dill exclusiveness and necessity for the old woman of Europe was even tired of his "parent", who refused to meet him. bully
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      3. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 6 October 2015 11: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Sterlya
        it would be necessary to introduce a ban (sanctions) on reports on the outskirts, for a week at least, I do not want to read anything about them

        I think so too ...! I read about Syria, the soul is resting and the heart beats smoothly ... hi
      4. mike_z
        mike_z 6 October 2015 11: 20 New
        +1
        And I want to hear only one news from there:
        Yatsenyuk finally completed the wall, this wall is high, wide, strong, not transparent to radio waves and because of it not only a Ukrainian, but also a bird will not penetrate into the territory of Russia. Not to mention the journalist. :))
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      6. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 11: 47 New
        +1
        You’re like in a joke directly:
        A person from Ukraine calls a friend in the Russian Federation:
        - Hi! Glory to Ukraine!
        - Hi, come on only without this of yours ...
        - What is this?
        - "Glory to Ukraine"
        - Ah ... Glory to the heroes!

        Do not want so do not write. laughing
    2. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 6 October 2015 10: 43 New
      +9
      The Ukrainians will send all the Svidomo people to the next Norman format to control the petun, and since every gopher in Bandera is an agronomist, the delegation will have more Arab refugees! fool
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Major Yurik
        then the delegation will be more Arab refugees!



        They are already under foreign control ... So let the Arab refugees also be part of parliamentary supervisors ... After all, they also live in a country handed over to the states and Europe in concession ...
    3. Andrea
      Andrea 6 October 2015 10: 43 New
      +2
      we invite the minister (Klimkin) with specific explanations and with the protocol of the 4-hour conversation of the most important people of the planet about Ukraine
      This is the most important Poroshenko!
      In particular, MPs plan to verify the correctness of the statements of French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel
      On their own equal!
      Brazenly lying, perverting, then talking is an interpretation. So in Ukrainian, distrust is understandable.
      In general, it seems that the gentlemen did not hear anything about the Minsk agreements.
      Nothing at all!
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 11: 22 New
        +2
        In general, it seems that the gentlemen did not hear anything about the Minsk agreements.
        Nothing at all![/ Quote]

        I just don’t understand how these “agreements” can be implemented if they were signed by LDNR on the one hand, and by an individual with an undefined status by the name of Kuchma on the other.
        As far as I know, the heads of Russia, Germany and France acted only as guarantors (and simply witnesses to their signing). I can’t understand, and there’s some kind of “Norman fours.” At the place of pigging, I would send them in my soul, but I answered loudly “IS!” By the way, this is what he does. Well, he didn’t sign anything. Fact.
        By the way, GDP is noticeably annoying. He is “on his knee” on the plane, as he himself said, invented these “Minsk gatherings” (something apparently raw they were these blanks) but giving the back was not in his character.
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 6 October 2015 12: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Petergofsky73
          By the way, GDP is noticeably annoying. He is “on his knee” on the plane, as he himself said, invented these “Minsk gatherings” (something apparently raw they were these blanks) but giving the back was not in his character.

          This Minsk protocol is interesting)) Motorola scared Abama, Putin, right there with a piece of paper on the ready, Poroshenko, Merkel, Oland signed. And now, war is not war, and Donbass is not Ukraine, and Ukraine is clearly not Europe, but time is ticking inexorably, and meanwhile in Ukraine they persistently continue to wage an unequal battle with themselves and with common sense. In general, the Minsk agreements and the problems of Ukraine are another stone necklace on the neck of Europe and the United States, these are the Minsk agreements.
    4. Kostyar
      Kostyar 6 October 2015 10: 44 New
      +1
      Well, everything passes ..., here is the "finest hour" Krajina has sunk into oblivion!
      We used something like ... a contraceptive, rubber product! - and threw it in the trash !!!
      West, as always in its repertoire, and nothing new, absolutely !!!
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 6 October 2015 10: 52 New
        +7
        "... The rapid deployment of the Russian operation near the Holy Sepulcher, near the sacred American cow - Israel - made the evil empire turn its back on its other favorite craft, the Ukrainian project.

        For those who do not understand the world’s chessboard: Putin’s plan initially envisaged the return of ALL of Ukraine on the rights of the Crimea, or, in the worst case, a second Belarus. To do this, Chef Putin needed the following products for soup:

        1. A bridgehead INSIDE Ukrainian territory, with a small, but regular and full-fledged Russian-speaking army.

        2. The work of Bandera degenerates in the complete and final discredit of Ukrainianism, several years of demonstrating their nature as geeks, plunging Ukraine into the darkness of the Wild Field.

        3. According to the results of the work of the Bandera geeks, there were massive hunger riots of people who were fed up with Bandera and changed their attitude towards life.

        Having mixed these three components in a geopolitical soup, Putin would have received, instead of the forceful occupation of Ukraine, a MASS POPULATION OF POPULATION on it, which is much more important than a simple power capture ....
        Author N. Vykhin.
      2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 11: 56 New
        +1
        Yes, Ukrainians the Germans and the French will be in the ass, and Ukrainians say: mutually beneficial cooperation is underway, the exchange of democratic experience and the saturation of Ukraine with the achievements of European culture. Or even more imaginative: "the seeds of European culture fell on the rich Ukrainian soil." Tryndets. crying
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 6 October 2015 10: 57 New
      +7
      "We demand that Angela Merkel learn Ukrainian language, personally come to the Supreme Rada and, in a language that we understand, ordered the elections to be held in Donbass!" laughing
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 6 October 2015 10: 37 New
    +8
    And what dill so excited? Piglet explained that his number 16 and put on sight. Correctly write: the minute of glory Outskirts came to an end.

    Here is what Yushchenko’s spokeswoman says: Europe wants peace and stability. Europe wants to sell its products. Europe wants to buy relatively inexpensive Russian gas ... after all, Europe is actually worried about Syria. And Ukraine ... When Ukraine bleeding. Europe was silent. And the executioner smiles cynically, "Vannikova laments."
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 13 New
      0
      Quote: oleg-gr
      When Ukraine bleeding. Europe was silent. And the executioner smiles cynically



      Um ... It sounds ambiguous somehow ...

      It depends on what part of Ukraine was bleeding due to the fault of some other part ... And at that moment when children and old people were dying in the Donbas, Europe did not keep silent, but squealed that the aggressor in the person of Russia was waging this massacre ...
  3. Paul_
    Paul_ 6 October 2015 10: 38 New
    +5
    Jackals feel that the West no longer needs them
  4. vovanpain
    vovanpain 6 October 2015 10: 39 New
    +10
    Well, hold on to the parasite and Klimkin, it looks like these protocols will be hammered into their ass.
  5. Yarik
    Yarik 6 October 2015 10: 42 New
    +17
    child, these are deputies, and the cat is the people of Ukraine
  6. Alexnder
    Alexnder 6 October 2015 10: 43 New
    +5
    What a fool ....
    You re-read the Minsk agreements, as all normal people read, namely from beginning to end.
    And not like you, from end to beginning.
    Everything is written there.
  7. udincev
    udincev 6 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +2
    I am perplexed how the Lord God’s fence for reporting did not demand.
    And about the Minsk agreements, I’m glad that, judging by the statements of the deputies, they heard something about them!
  8. provincial
    provincial 6 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +1
    “Now I’ll stroke the laces, clean my shoes, polish my nails, put on my lace panties, tear my tray and bring you the protocol,” the Norman four responded to the Ukrainian deputies.
  9. press officer
    press officer 6 October 2015 10: 46 New
    +12
    Well, what do you take from the poor? they are surprised laughing jokes b fool I! fool
  10. Baloo
    Baloo 6 October 2015 10: 46 New
    +6
    Banderlogs were excited by the realization of their own insignificance, no matter who they called themselves, deputies or whatever. Their place was indicated to them, as well as piglet. Klimkin is a separate topic for cartoonists and gum club.
  11. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 6 October 2015 10: 50 New
    +4
    In the words of S. Lavrov de ... ly b .. dj!
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 6 October 2015 10: 51 New
    +2
    I’m becoming more and more convinced that the building of their lower house should be filled with these “deputies” and others like them and culturally drop something like “dad of all bombs” on him. All the same, Kiev needs to be restored
  13. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 6 October 2015 10: 54 New
    +1
    Sucking sweet sweetness before bed ...
  14. DV69
    DV69 6 October 2015 10: 56 New
    +2
    “We see statements by the German Chancellor that the Ukrainian parliament should adopt a law on elections in the occupied territories, and this law must be coordinated with the terrorists. This is nonsense, ”said Berezyuk.


    It seems that the deputies of the Rada are seriously convinced that they, as representatives of the "great power", can demand a report on the actions of the leadership of France and Germany.
    And they also want to be the "master of the sea", and that would have a fish (gold) on their premises. Sutsk! Ward number 6 is resting.
  15. N-SKiy
    N-SKiy 6 October 2015 10: 56 New
    0
    Here are stupid people. You will not jump on the whistle, there will be no mani. But by the way, hell will not be good. Maydanut what to take.
  16. roskot
    roskot 6 October 2015 10: 58 New
    +7
    We will fight for the decisions of the Channel Four.
  17. engineer74
    engineer74 6 October 2015 10: 59 New
    0
    But looking through the protocol is still curious ... wink
    This is Itoria, freshly written! The future Molotov-Ribentrop Pact or the Munich Agreement, anyone will like it!
  18. Sterlya
    Sterlya 6 October 2015 11: 00 New
    +2
    It was necessary for them to demand that Merkel and Oland come personally with a report to the parliament on negotiations, it would be funnier
    1. as150505
      as150505 6 October 2015 12: 58 New
      +1
      And they can take something from them. Every day they are annealing, wondering how all these things come to mind.
  19. kotev19
    kotev19 6 October 2015 11: 01 New
    0
    ... we invite the Minister (Klimkin) with specific explanations and with the protocol of the 4-hour conversation of the most important people on the planet about Ukraine ...
    Excuse me, but who are these “most important people on the planet” - Klimkin and Poroshenko or what? Well well... laughing
  20. Peterhof 73
    Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 11: 01 New
    0
    But I like the name of their party "SELF-HELP". Repeating this word three times involuntarily erotic fantasies come to mind. Is this name connected with the legislative masturbation taking place in Urin?
  21. Batia
    Batia 6 October 2015 11: 02 New
    0
    SchA ZRADA will require Merkel, Hollande, Babamka to arrive in Kiev and report to the "great and independent."
  22. veksha50
    veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 06 New
    +3
    "Did we pass the country into a concession? But nobody knows about this, including 40 million people (residents of Ukraine)?"...

    A strange question in general for statesmen of this level ...

    And what are you, they themselves did not know this and did not contribute to this ???

    " Concession (from lat. concessio - permission, assignment) - form of an agreement on the transfer to use of a complex of exclusive rights belonging to the copyright holder. The transfer to the concession is carried out on a reimbursable basis for a specified period or without specifying a period. The subject of the contract may be transfer of rights to exploit natural resources, enterprises, equipment and other rights ... "...

    In your government are state proteges, in governors are fugitive criminals, your budget is in the ass, like a victorious war ... pah, ATO ...

    But the Rada doesn’t know anything ... so it’s not the Rada, but the real Zrada ...
  23. duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 6 October 2015 11: 08 New
    0
    Ukraine for the EU is already becoming a burden and an extra headache, only it comes to Svidomo tightly. They will not be in NATO or the EU. Beggars are not needed there.
  24. 2s1122
    2s1122 6 October 2015 11: 11 New
    +4
    It’s necessary in an anecdote: Putin speaks to Lukashenko. Alexander Grigorievich, please tell me how much time you would need to stop the mess in Ukraine, a month, a year. Lukashenko responds for two days. On the first day, shoot the Supreme Rada, and on the second all who peshol at the wake.
  25. pvv113
    pvv113 6 October 2015 11: 12 New
    0
    MPs plan to verify the correctness of statements by French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel

    If Svidomity not go crazy, then definitely go to the excrement wink
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 6 October 2015 11: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: pvv113
      If Svidomity not go crazy, then they will definitely go to wink excrement

      interesting. how can kookies go crazy again? laughing the history of medicine does not seem to know such cases yet laughing
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 6 October 2015 12: 46 New
        0
        Judging by today's Ukraine - modern medicine still does not know much laughing
  26. prostofily
    prostofily 6 October 2015 11: 12 New
    +2
    Good orderlies jiving over the sick. Head physician.
  27. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 6 October 2015 11: 15 New
    0
    ..Life has become more fun ..! A good reason for our Duma to look at our government also through the "magnifying glass" (start calling and talking for a long time) ..!
  28. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 October 2015 11: 16 New
    +6
    Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanded the protocol of the 4-hour negotiations of the leaders of the "Norman Four"

    Well, here's the preliminary ....)))) bully I understand everything clearly, but what else? There Petyunya got drunk and shouted Glory to Ukraine and he was taken away .. wassat
  29. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 6 October 2015 11: 23 New
    0
    Bereziuk, as I understand it, is a deer from a terrobat ... only he was lucky to participate in the ATO, there were no injuries in the dupa. The meaning of the Minsk Agreements even begins to reach the tightest ... it’s time for banderlogs to start Maidan
  30. Afinogen
    Afinogen 6 October 2015 11: 24 New
    0
    must be agreed with the terrorists. This is nonsense, ”said Bereziuk.



    These are cockroaches - terrorists live in his head and do not let you think lol
  31. wild
    wild 6 October 2015 11: 26 New
    +1
    How do you like this hero ????
    1. kizhe
      kizhe 6 October 2015 11: 56 New
      +1
      Descendant of the Rabbit-Yaytsenyukha. Usually snot interrupted. All dignity in the knowledge of several real Russian words.
  32. bronik
    bronik 6 October 2015 11: 26 New
    +2
    Joke - Verkhovna Rada: - We are deeply concerned about yesterday's statements by the Kremlin!
    Journalist: - Which ones? - Yes, no difference ...
    And yet - On the statement of Petro Poroshenko that Ukraine is moving to Europe, the latter somehow cringed.
    Just to draw attention to yourself ..
  33. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 6 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +3
    The Norman four squeezed Poroshenko. Poroshenko was unable to push the Rada and forced to dissolve it. The territorial election commissions will take control of the Right Sector and its representatives will constitute a majority in the Rada. Yatsenyuk will join them in a coalition and will again become prime minister, after which he will raise the question of impeachment Poroshenko. Poroshenko will get drunk and run away to his factories in Lipetsk. Rada will accept the next series of stupid and provocative laws and resume the ATO. Russia will send troops to the Donbass under the pretext of saving the Russian population from Bandera. In the regions, a parade of sovereignty will begin. In Ukraine, the end of the world.
  34. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 6 October 2015 11: 38 New
    0
    Khokhlam is only about ten people, a maximum of twenty bangs and life will gradually begin to normalize.
  35. mamont5
    mamont5 6 October 2015 11: 48 New
    0
    "Deputies of the parliamentary faction" Self-help "demanded from the Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavel Klimkin the protocol of the 4-hour talks of the leaders of the countries of the" Norman Four to verify the accuracy of their statements. "

    They would rather read the Minsk Agreements more closely, who is there, what should be done. And then they scream, scream, they blame everyone, but they must do it first of all.
  36. HAM
    HAM 6 October 2015 11: 48 New
    +7
    HERE IS THE PROTOCOL !!!
  37. Vladimir
    Vladimir 6 October 2015 11: 58 New
    0
    What’s more good, the deputies in the Rada will declare the president as a loader of Ukraine.
  38. WERSTA.
    WERSTA. 6 October 2015 12: 03 New
    0
    Yes, let them poke on. All the same they will fulfill the will of the Western masters.
  39. kizhe
    kizhe 6 October 2015 12: 05 New
    0
    That's Geyropa! At the end, she pulled herself up and let ukrov .... through the anus.
  40. Strong
    Strong 6 October 2015 12: 10 New
    0
    What did they want to read 4-hour talk about drYuzhbe))
  41. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 October 2015 12: 31 New
    +1
    What is characteristic is that our parliamentarians are not so concerned about anything and they have no questions.
    Why do we elect them at all? If there were none, would something have changed?
  42. _my opinion
    _my opinion 6 October 2015 12: 58 New
    0
    Did we pass the country into a concession?

    surrendered, quite a while already surrendered yes sold out, dragged away and the ASU did not ask, but you download, download ...
    ... the Ukrainian parliament must adopt a law on elections in the occupied territories, and this law must be agreed with the terrorists. This is nonsense, ”said Bereziuk.

    the occupied territories (in the sense of Crimea) returned to their homeland, and the terrorists ... and how much terror did those whom you call so much ?! zero!!! stop verbiage
  43. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 6 October 2015 13: 34 New
    0
    Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanded a protocol
    Zion wise men.
  44. Woolfy
    Woolfy 6 October 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    So they have zrad or overdrive?
  45. Tujh
    Tujh 6 October 2015 16: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    Masochists!
    Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine demanded a protocol
    Piglet Spanking! laughing
    Apparently they are not enough perversions in the HEAD!

    "Laurels" by David Cameron haunt them. So a simple “spanking” will not do here.
  46. WU 37
    WU 37 6 October 2015 16: 05 New
    0
    I think that until the Ukrainian Duma does not do the cleaning, there won’t be any sense. A pet, an empty place, a talking head, they’ll say that he’ll mumble. But you have to drive people like Lyashko and others like him !!! Throats from these. ..men, it’s not realistic to overthrow. And they and their comrades will stir up the water