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Syrian Kurds Welcome Russian Anti-Terrorism Operation

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The Kurds welcome the military activities of Russia in Syria and hope with its help to gain freedom, reports RIA News Statement by the Chairman of the International Union of Kurdish Public Associations Merab Shamoyev, made on the air of the Latvian radio Baltkom.


Young Kurd, Kobani, 2015

“We support the participation of the Russian Federation in the fight against this monster, the Islamic State.” It is one of the most brutal organizations, the plague of the 21 century. I hope that this struggle will bring freedom to the Kurdish people. Why do I support Russia? Because the Western coalition led by the United States could not change the situation in the region ",
said a public figure.

Shamoev assured that the Kurds will continue to fight, but they now need Russian support.

“If today we will be provided with military assistance from the air and provided with ammunition, the Kurds will be able to seize the so-called capital of the IG - the city of Rakka. And I really hope that such assistance will be provided to the Kurds ", - he said.

Earlier, Vladimir Putin said that the only force that really opposes the Islamists is the "Syrian government forces and the Kurdish militia."
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 October 2015 10: 02
    53
    Kurds are more important to us than Turkish beaches ... We must support! And they will help us later, be sure!
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 6 October 2015 10: 04
      50
      Kurds must come to terms with Assad. We do not need a new series of civil war. Support should go with the participation of the central government.
      1. regdan
        regdan 6 October 2015 10: 07
        39
        There was already an agreement. Assad promised them wide autonomy.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 6 October 2015 10: 11
          +9
          I think that’s all that goes for! And then the normal relations of the Kurds with the Syrians are thought out!
          And it is also taken into account that the Kurds are against today's Turkey! (against NATO)
          1. Byshido_dis
            Byshido_dis 6 October 2015 10: 29
            +1
            We have many Turks tied up with the same Turkish Stream + NPP we are building ... I would not want to spoil relations with them
            1. Sterlya
              Sterlya 6 October 2015 10: 37
              +9
              Quote: Byshido_dis
              We have many Turks tied up with the same Turkish Stream + NPP we are building ... I would not want to spoil relations with them

              Turetsky slowed down just like the South, our tourists will not be refused in any case.
              It is necessary to solve the Kurds, it is mutually beneficial, considering that this problem still needs to be solved sooner or later
            2. veksha50
              veksha50 6 October 2015 10: 43
              19
              Quote: Byshido_dis
              We have many Turks tied up with the same Turkish Stream + NPP we are building ... I would not want to spoil relations with them



              And there’s nothing to spoil ... There is no good relationship ...

              During the Chechen wars, the militants were trained and "repaired" on the territory of Turkey, and the Turkish government knew this beforehand ...

              When the fuss (after the refusal of Bulgaria) with the Turkish stream began, I still said that it’s not worth contacting them ... As a result, Russia incurred enormous material and financial costs ...

              Now, from the very first days of the reunification of Crimea with Russia, they mutter about the oppression of the Crimean Tatars ... In their opinion, there was no oppression in the "Ukrainian" Crimea ...

              And indeed, having looked at history even superficially, the Turks were never just friends to us - they were not just good neighbors ...

              And our tourists, damn it, feed their economy ... And - not sickly ...
              1. aleks 62 next
                aleks 62 next 6 October 2015 14: 02
                +1
                .... And our tourists, damn it, feed their economy ... And - not sickly ...


                ... Duc it is solved !!!! .... I decided to steam the bones in Turkey - unfasten the heavy duty to the treasury (for the development of domestic resorts, for example) .... I think the number of those wishing to decrease ...
            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 October 2015 11: 05
              +5
              Quote: Byshido_dis
              We have many Turks tied up with the same Turkish Stream + NPP we are building ... I would not want to spoil relations with them

              So we do not spoil relations with them, but they also need the same Turkish stream with us as we do. In addition, there is nothing to supply ISIS weapons. USA, England and Turkey (the NATO block) with Saudi Arabia are the main sponsors of this abomination.
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 October 2015 10: 14
          +1
          Guys have a real incentive, and that's good.
        3. Simon
          Simon 6 October 2015 10: 17
          0
          I think that the joint struggle of the Kurds and Iranians against the single enemy of ISIS will unite them, after which they will create, together with the Syrians, a strong united state, with the support of Russia.
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 6 October 2015 10: 44
            +6
            Quote: Simon
            I think that the joint struggle of the Kurds and Iranians against the single enemy of ISIS will unite them, after which they will create, together with the Syrians, a strong united state, with the support of Russia.



            Wow, the dreamer !!! ...
        4. Good me
          Good me 6 October 2015 10: 44
          0
          Quote: regdan
          There was already an agreement. Assad promised them wide autonomy.

          In such processes, promises alone are not enough. We need guarantees, including international intermediaries. And as such, Russia, Iran may well come forward ...
        5. Temples
          Temples 6 October 2015 11: 03
          +2
          Kurds are our friends since the USSR! So what you need to help them. Otherwise, the Americans will hench themselves.
          The Kurds are fighting for their independence, and this is a serious argument.
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      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 10: 17
        15
        “If today we will be provided with military assistance from the air and ammunition provided, then the Kurds will be able to capture the so-called capital of the Islamic State - the city of Raqqa. And I really hope that such assistance will be provided to the Kurds, ”he said.
        If this happens and the Kurds capture Racca, then Erdogan’s mustache will fall off.
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 6 October 2015 10: 38
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Kurds must come to terms with Assad. We do not need a new series of civil war. Support should go with the participation of the central government.


        It's a little complicated here ... It is necessary that not only the Kurds - with Assad, but Assad - with the Kurds find a common language ... If Assad does not stupid and finds a compromise with them, then he will get a faithful, faithful (if this is possible in the East ) friend and ally ...

        Now Assad, Kurds and Russia are opposed not so much by the states with their "coalition" as by the Saudis, Qataris and Turks, financially (and not only) supporting any movement against Assad ...
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 6 October 2015 10: 07
      13
      We have always supported the Kurds. And I would like the Kurds to take control of the capital of the igil under Rakku, otherwise the mattress covers around this city began to sniff out.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 6 October 2015 10: 24
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        We have always supported the Kurds

        Yeah, and even supported the extradition of the leader of the "PKK" Ocalan to the Turks ...
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 6 October 2015 10: 36
          11
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: vovanpain
          We have always supported the Kurds

          Yeah, and even supported the extradition of the leader of the "PKK" Ocalan to the Turks ...

          The Kurds were supported even in the USSR, and why they supported the extradition of Ocalan to all questions to the alkonaut if he had aspen in his grave.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 6 October 2015 12: 35
            +1
            Earlier back in the USSR, Turks were supported, specifically the regime of Mustafa Kemal, a third of the historical Armenian territory conquered by Russian troops, Turkey was presented free of charge. Kurds, by the way, actively participated in the Armenian Genocide in 1915. Ask any Armenian.
      2. mabuta
        mabuta 6 October 2015 10: 36
        0
        There are two parties, some support p..n. dos and negative attitude towards us, others are normal.
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    4. Samaritan
      Samaritan 6 October 2015 10: 11
      +4
      The Kurds have too many enemies, and so the state would be serious:
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 10: 19
        +2
        The question is who the Kurds will be with. And it will turn out like with Israel: at first they were with us, then they became against us. They are very close to Russia - a hot topic. The shaded area also passes through the Armenian lands, from which the Armenians were driven out (often destroyed) during the genocide.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 6 October 2015 10: 35
          +1
          Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
          The question is who the Kurds will be with.

          and what does it mean - with whom? They have a definite utilitarian goal - the creation of a sovereign state-va. And the PKK, as far as I know, is not excluded from the terrorist lists. So - be careful in choosing allies. What Kurds welcome there or not is the tenth matter.
        2. Homo
          Homo 6 October 2015 10: 39
          +3
          Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
          And it will turn out like with Israel: at first they were with us, then they became against us.

          Is this when Israel was with us? The state was artificially created by the United States (at the expense of the seized territories of several states), with a huge number of violations of international norms. Armed, trained, trained managers of all levels of the same USA. And you say "were with us"!
          1. a71
            a71 6 October 2015 14: 50
            +2
            The state was created with the direct participation of the USSR and only then turned to the United States.
        3. veksha50
          veksha50 6 October 2015 10: 51
          0
          Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
          The question is who the Kurds will be with. And it will come out as with Israel:



          Hmm ... East is a delicate, insidious and dangerous business ...

          NOW they (the Kurds) will be with those who really support them in the struggle for (!!!) the creation of their own state (well, in the worst case, to start more or less sovereign autonomy within the same Syria) ... And then ... It’s very difficult to predict prospects in the East ...

          I can cynically say: if Russia helps them become independent, and then for some time will support them in all respects, then in the next 5, or maybe 10 years, they will be her friends ... And then - only Allah knows .. .

          PS Egypt has been a friend-enemy how many times ??? Now - again "friend" ???
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 7 October 2015 01: 56
            0
            Quote: veksha50
            How many times have we visited Egypt as a friend-enemy ??? Now - again "friend" ???


            Arab can not be bought. It can only be Perebuy! (arab proverb)
          2. Weyland
            Weyland 7 October 2015 01: 56
            0
            Quote: veksha50
            How many times have we visited Egypt as a friend-enemy ??? Now - again "friend" ???


            Arab can not be bought. It can only be Perebuy! (arab proverb)
      2. Bombardier
        Bombardier 6 October 2015 10: 31
        +4
        http://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/922311.html

        A volunteer from Donbass, now in Syria, with the call sign "Timur" has handed over to the "Russian Spring" a summary of the military operations of the ATS army and Russian aviation on October 4.

        During October 4th the military situation in Syria remained tense.

        Some large Islamist groups in the provinces of Hama, Homs, Latakia and Idlib have sufficiently coordinated their activities in order to distribute areas of responsibility in view of the threat of a decisive offensive by government forces. While some are preparing for attacks on large cities and terrorist attacks, others are engaged in the equipment of defensive positions.

        Damascus is still under threat, in the areas of Aleppo, Idlib, near Zabadan, north of Homs and south of Hama, a rebranding of militants is underway.

        Militants continue to threaten Damascus, seeking to hold down a group of Syrian troops here. Meanwhile, Islamist formations continue to regroup their forces in the areas of Aleppo, Idlib, the ceasefire zone near Zabadan, as well as north of Homs and south of Hama. According to militants, they came here to strengthen the group of terrorists Al-Qaeda *, Jebhat al-Nusra * and the Islamic State *.

        Part of the so-called “brigades” established cooperation with these groups. The Syrian Free Army. It is the terrorists from Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State that are behind the “appeals” of “moderate opposition leaders” to the American and Turkish governments asking them to put pressure on the Russian Federation to stop air strikes or to supply them with anti-aircraft missile systems capable of hitting modern Russian aircraft.

        ISIS terrorists in the Raqqah area retreat to the Turkish border.

        However, the front of fanatics in Syria is still far from unity. Thus, the Islamic State groups in the Raqqa region, after the first Russian air strikes, prefer not to focus on sending reinforcements to the Islamists in the Idlib and Aleppo regions, but on retreating to the Turkish or Iraqi border.

        Militant groups in the areas of Palmyra (Tadmor) and the Golan Heights (border with Israel) also prefer to pursue their own interests. Rather, the interests of their owners.
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 6 October 2015 10: 32
          +4
          Continued:

          In the area of ​​Palmyra there are heavy battles.

          As you know, geographically important routes converge in the Palmyra region and fields of gas fields are located. As for the Golan Heights, control over them is crucial for the security of the Israeli state. Here, due to generous financial injections and military-technical support of seemingly antipodes such as Israel and Saudi Arabia, the sponsors managed to create an extremist group that almost exceeded the size of government forces. In a number of sections of the Syrian Arab army at the Golan Heights, they had to go on the defensive. Over the past day there were heavy battles with varying success and heavy losses on both sides.

          The strikes of the Russian air forces demoralize the terrorists.

          However, the main demoralizing factor for all, without exception, terrorist groups in Syria are the attacks of Russian aircraft. Despite mutual hostility, the leaders of various radical groups with the same severity, on pain of death, forbade their bandits to discuss, both on air and just in conversation, the number of losses incurred due to attacks by Russian aircraft. The presence of such indications is reliably confirmed both by Syrian intelligence and by captured or surrendered militants.

          Over the past day, Russian aviation hit at least 9 targets.

          Among them: ammunition depots and a militant communications hub in the area of ​​Tell Bis, as well as a command post a few kilometers from Er Rastan. Strikes on accumulations of equipment and

          The operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces against terrorist groups in the Syrian Arab Republic continues.

          Timur, specially for the Russian Spring
          1. mabuta
            mabuta 6 October 2015 10: 59
            0
            This "insider" can be scribbled while sitting in the next office, or maybe in one. Everything is in the media, both in ours and in the enemy. They want to create an opinion that the Novoros don't give a damn where to fight. Soon infa will be what for money. The "volunteer" has very extensive infa. Don't make the slippers laugh.
          2. Styx
            Styx 6 October 2015 12: 23
            +2
            A bit towards Palmyra: a history book, it seems: ((((....
      3. mabuta
        mabuta 6 October 2015 10: 39
        +2
        And the Caucasus will be cut off from NATO.
    5. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 10: 13
      +2
      Yes, with such prices, we do not need not only the Turkish coast, but we do not need Africa either. laughing But seriously - every patriot should rest in his own country. For lovers of relaxation, even Crimea was attached. For example, I rest here every year in Anapa.
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 6 October 2015 10: 27
        +4
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Yes, with such prices, we do not need not only the Turkish coast, but we do not need Africa either. laughing But seriously - every patriot should rest in his own country. For lovers of relaxation, even Crimea was attached. For example, I rest here every year in Anapa.

        Support! drinks Crimea is a paradise on earth!
    6. roadsmell
      roadsmell 6 October 2015 10: 14
      +3
      As the videoconferencing system appeared in Syria, the Turkish raids on the Syrian Kurds immediately stopped.
      The stump is clear - the Kurds are jumping for joy.
    7. V.ic
      V.ic 6 October 2015 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And then they will help us, be sure!

      This is unlikely! We are Asian friends while we feed them. Need will pass - quickly forgotten. It does not apply to Russians.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 6 October 2015 11: 03
        +2
        Quote: V.ic
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And then they will help us, be sure!

        This is unlikely! We are Asian friends while we feed them. Need will pass - quickly forgotten. It does not apply to Russians.

        We have now become different (taught by bitter experience) .. They will not forget ... We will constantly remind you, if that! bully
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 6 October 2015 12: 30
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          We have now become different (taught by bitter experience)

          Your words yes to God in your ears!
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 October 2015 13: 06
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          We have now become different (taught by bitter experience) .. They will not forget ... We will constantly remind you, if that!

          Historically,Russia never starts wars, it ends them!
    8. rus9875
      rus9875 6 October 2015 10: 29
      +2
      It’s not worth counting on the help or even the gratitude of the Kurds - it’s not that people, if they suddenly have their own state, they will immediately begin to squabble among themselves for power, while one part will ask for help from the Turks, the other - from p. .... s, the third - in Russia and a multi-million people who never in history had their own state will never have it - the mentality is not the same
    9. marlin1203
      marlin1203 6 October 2015 11: 03
      0
      The Kurds have their own goal - the creation of an independent Kurdistan and subsequent survival. Everything else is secondary to them.
  2. sl22277
    sl22277 6 October 2015 10: 03
    +4
    Well, yes, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." The Russian Federation strikes at ISIS with which the Kurds are directly fighting and bordering. Whoever actually fights against ISIS necessarily supports Russia ..., and Russia's aviation does not miss.
  3. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 6 October 2015 10: 04
    13
    Something tells me that the Kurds will get their autonomy in Syria.
    1. General Frost
      General Frost 6 October 2015 10: 07
      +1
      drinks as they say from the "language removed" smile
    2. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 6 October 2015 10: 09
      +4
      .. For this and fight ..! Then the Turks will have to cut the "autonomy" ..!
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 6 October 2015 10: 14
        +9
        The Turks will never go to autonomy, rather destroy the Kurds, remember the story:
        The leadership of the young Turkish Republic has taken a clearly chauvinistic position in relation to the national minorities of Turkey. The Kurds responded with an uprising, brutally suppressed. In June 1927, the Grand National Assembly passed a law on the resettlement of Kurds from the eastern vilayets to the western ones. Over the course of several years, "several thousand participants in the 1925 uprising were resettled.
        The persecution and physical extermination of the Kurdish population has become the official state policy of the Turkish government. Laws issued in Turkey in the 30s, especially after the suppression of the Kurdish uprising in the Ararat region (1930-1931), aimed at killing the sense of national dignity and identity in the Kurds, accelerating the process of assimilation of the Kurds.
        The Kurdish uprising in the Ararat region (Agridagh) was led by Ihsan Nuri Pasha (commander of the armed forces) and Ibrahim Husky (head of the civil administration). The Turkish government disrupted negotiations with the leaders of the uprising, refusing to recognize the Kurdish national rights. During the uprising, Kurdish armed units managed to capture a large number of Turkish officers. as well as military equipment. Several planes of the punitive group were shot down. It was possible to break the resistance of the rebels only after the complete exhaustion of the forces of the Kurds. As a result of brutal repression, 165 Kurdish villages were affected. 7716 houses were burned. 8664 Kurds were killed, mostly children, women and the elderly. Many men died in battle, and some took refuge in the mountains. The leader of the uprising, Ihsan Nuri, hid in Iran.
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  4. General Frost
    General Frost 6 October 2015 10: 04
    +8
    Greetings to all members of the forum !!! hi As far as I understand, wide Kurdish autonomy may arise soon, and this will automatically cause brick diarrhea in Turkey hi
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 15: 12
      0
      Quote: General Frost
      As far as I understand, wide Kurdish autonomy may arise soon, and this will automatically cause brick diarrhea in Turkey

      Sorry, what does "wide" mean? If it covers Kurdish chunks in Iraq-Turkey-Syria-Iran, then why
      Quote: General Frost
      cause brick diarrhea
      only in Turkey? Belligerent guys who do not have a clue about statehood and clear goals, you know, may well become a problem of BV No. 2.
      1. General Frost
        General Frost 6 October 2015 22: 26
        0
        As far as I know the history of relations between Turkey and the Kurds, this is an eternal struggle for the independence and statehood of the Kurds and harsh pressure and suppression from the Turks. In this development of events, the Kurds have a concrete opportunity to realize their centuries-old dream (independent Kurdistan), but do not forget about project "Turkish Stream". I'm sure our Foreign Ministry will decide everything "amicably", maybe the time has really come to change the "resolver" to (as you put it on the BV) Gaddafi in Libya (who performed this function with dignity in the BV) to a new leader who should appear in the new Kurdistan, or already exist in Syria. hi (my humble opinion, assumption). I want to believe hi
        PS Yes, and Colonel Gaddafi immediately no one took seriously. hi
        PPS Well, admit, could you suggest at least half a year ago about the development of such events, so everything is rapidly happening and changing. hi Everything is possible under the moonlight yes
  5. anderles66
    anderles66 6 October 2015 10: 06
    +6
    With the Kurds, everything is not so simple, but fact is fact - this is a real force, and with a strong participant one must, if not make friends, then certainly not be at enmity. They can really affect events in several countries. But as far as Raqqa is concerned, it would be great if the Kurds managed to take him. Bagdasarov says they almost succeeded, but "the Americans dissuaded." I hope they won't dissuade me this time.
  6. Styx
    Styx 6 October 2015 10: 06
    +7
    Long-suffering people, long-suffering lands: ((((already sick of wars and deaths. We have the largest Kurdish community, they live and live, and there they bother anyone?
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 6 October 2015 11: 53
      +1
      Well, such a poor, destitute, white and furry people?
      And remind me, who was particularly zealous when carving Armenians in Turkey at the beginning of the 20th century? Weren't the white and fluffy Kurds doing this?
      1. Styx
        Styx 6 October 2015 12: 19
        +1
        Well, as far as I know, they traditionally do not love each other. There they have their own graters. But on the whole ..... By the way, they still do not digest each other :) But somehow we get along
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 6 October 2015 13: 51
          0
          I’m just saying that there are no whites and fluffy at all, just everyone will pursue their own interests and yes, at this stage, ours and the Kurds coincide.
  7. Imperial
    Imperial 6 October 2015 10: 08
    +6
    The Kurds urgently need to help with weapons and advisers, otherwise the Americans are already fussing over Turkey, the Erdogan is still a bastard. I went to NATO to complain about us, I forgot how the Americans had muddied the Maidan, well, well.
    1. Simon
      Simon 6 October 2015 10: 21
      +2
      Let him complain, this will not help him. The Kurds and Syria are already in a breeze, and Russia does not attach its friends and allies.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2015 10: 11
    +4
    “We support the participation of the Russian Federation in the fight against this monster - the“ Islamic State ”

    This poor people not only is at war with IS, it is also subjected to constant bombing from Turkey, which "on the sly" decides its affairs. So who is right in this "compote"?
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 6 October 2015 11: 52
      0
      Well, such a poor, destitute, white and furry people?
      And remind me, who was particularly zealous when carving Armenians in Turkey at the beginning of the 20th century? Weren't the white and fluffy Kurds doing this?
  9. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 6 October 2015 10: 11
    +2
    Slowly gradually, we’ll disperse everyone. And moderate moderate bombs and not really. And the Turks, they are in Africa, the Turks.
  10. jaguarstas
    jaguarstas 6 October 2015 10: 11
    +5
    Personally, I like the calm but confident Kurdish pragmatism. You can be friends with such people. Their behavior is most similar to the formula "who comes to us with a sword ...".
    I am in favor of uniting the Kurds and the government forces of Syria. Together they will win without a doubt. One by one they will suffer heavy losses and the outcome of such a struggle is unclear.
  11. koksalek
    koksalek 6 October 2015 10: 12
    +1
    How did this Latvian radio miss such a broadcast? Did the Americans miss?
    1. Petrovich1952
      Petrovich1952 6 October 2015 10: 22
      +2
      How did this Latvian radio miss such a broadcast? Did the Americans miss it? They pulled the fried one over and let it pass and remembered how well they used to live near by the side of RUSSIA.
  12. hartlend
    hartlend 6 October 2015 10: 15
    +1
    Statement by the Chairman of the International Union of Kurdish Public Associations Merab Shamoyev, made on the air of the Latvian radio Baltkom.

    Who is Shamoev and what is he doing on the air of the Latvian radio? Where is Latvia and where are Kurds. Vague doubts about the legitimacy of this type torment me.
  13. Engineer
    Engineer 6 October 2015 10: 16
    +3
    It is necessary to support the Kurds: they fight well, they are not Muslim fanatics and have long dreamed of their state.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 10: 37
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      The Kurds must be supported:

      PKK is a terrorist organization. Nnnada?
  14. DMB3000
    DMB3000 6 October 2015 10: 16
    0
    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
    Yes, with such prices, we do not need not only the Turkish coast, but we do not need Africa either. laughing But seriously - every patriot should rest in his own country. For lovers of relaxation, even Crimea was attached. For example, I rest here every year in Anapa.

    I'm in the village.
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 October 2015 10: 17
    +1
    We have a large Kurdish diaspora in Russia (very serious ..) and in other countries too! No wonder Turkey hates them. They are good wars!
  16. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 6 October 2015 10: 18
    +1
    Quote: Samaritan
    The Kurds have too many enemies, and so the state would be serious:

    We found from whom to learn, what the Germans can teach, to eat sausages, yes.
    1. Manul
      Manul 6 October 2015 11: 23
      0
      Quote: Rossiyanin
      We found from whom to learn, what the Germans can teach, to eat sausages, yes.

      Firstly, why do you think that the Germans do not know how to fight? But the second one in my flecktarn park also has such a flag, am I not too smart, or what? This is probably still the label of the country of the manufacturer of the military uniform, and not a chevron, anyone can be in it. Any PMC.
    2. Shuttle
      Shuttle 6 October 2015 15: 26
      0
      Quote: Rossiyanin

      We found from whom to learn, what the Germans can teach, to eat sausages, yes.

      Seriously, the Germans know how to fight. And thank God, we in the future war will have to fight with the Germans most likely on the same side. In any case, not against each other.
      And the fact that we are aware that in the Fatherland our grandfathers and great-grandfathers overwhelmed such a strong enemy, such a well-functioning powerful military machine as the German does not honor the Germans, but our grandfathers and great-grandfathers.
      Only a real fool can not learn from anyone, not even the most intelligent. The truly intelligent can find and take something good even from a fool.
  17. tommy717
    tommy717 6 October 2015 10: 22
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    “If today we will be provided with military assistance from the air and ammunition provided, then the Kurds will be able to capture the so-called capital of the Islamic State - the city of Raqqa. And I really hope that such assistance will be provided to the Kurds, ”he said.
    If this happens and the Kurds capture Racca, then Erdogan’s mustache will fall off.

    And Obama will brighten!
  18. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 6 October 2015 10: 24
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    It is interesting how possible the situation for the Middle East is if Syria, Iraq, slowly created by Kurdistan (as a subject of international law), let Lebanon, be united into a single confederate SECOND state. So cut everything on autonomy or cut off pieces of territory from the country to create a new state, few will be divided from existing states. But if you cut off and then unite in a confederation ...
    On the other hand, the devastation and remnants of very ancient times in the East are still very strong and such a confederation is very at risk of falling into a civil war for the power of various religious and national tribal groups.
    But if you dream here. How would such a confederation wipe the democratic nose of the West.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 11: 11
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      Quote: abrakadabre
      But if you cut off and then unite in a confederation ...

      Well, in principle, the Kurds themselves do not know what they want. Either a state, now four autonomies with a confederation, then leave everything as it is. The concept of "statehood" is not familiar to them, and they do not strive for this. They also seek to benefit from the Syrian chaos - if Assad wins, he will be forced to go for democratic reforms, and the Kurds will receive their autonomy. If Assad deflates and the chaos does not stop, they will still get autonomy, as in Iraq under Saddam in 92, when he left the north.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 6 October 2015 11: 52
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        The question of Kurdistan, assembled from all parts is just a sore point for the states of the region. After all, then they (especially Iraq) will have to shrink strongly geographically and in the depths. To do several autonomies in different states is also a delay in the inevitable unification of such autonomies in the future. And it is still not known what kind of blood.
        But to lead this process ourselves - together to create (even within Syria + Iraq) a united Kurdistan with the simultaneous creation of a common confederation with a single government - that is, the creation of a common multinational state ... That would be the topic. This would be on the principle: if you can’t interfere, head.
        But I understand that the region is clearly not ready for such a civilizational leap. Even if you think over and create with the help of Russia, there are very big doubts that this association will live long.
  19. Meh-forester
    Meh-forester 6 October 2015 10: 28
    +1
    Kurds welcome Russian military activity in Syria and hope to find freedom with its help,
    Indeed, it was only thanks to our aviation that flights and bombing by the Turks of Kurdish positions were suspended ...
  20. Erg
    Erg 6 October 2015 10: 30
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    Let's support the Kurds. And if they slam the IG - hello IG2 wassat ... Seriously, there is only one government in Syria, which, by the way, the "boss" spoke about. All groups that do not recognize it must cease to exist in one way or another.
  21. Not served
    Not served 6 October 2015 10: 33
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    Kurds live in Russia. Pugachev district of the Saratov region and in other areas. They live very separately, steal and drag everything that lies badly or walks (I'm talking about livestock). Local people are extremely wary of them.
  22. Turkir
    Turkir 6 October 2015 10: 39
    +1
    The Kurdish problem is very old.
    The famous Salladin (Salah ad-Din) was a Kurd from Cilicia. The Kurdish problem is well described in the book "The Diplomat" by James Aldridge.
    The Kurdish language belongs to the Indo-European languages. The words "to be" and "to give" sound very interesting - "bootie" and "dati", respectively. And, of course, today the interests of the Syrians and the Kurds coincide.
  23. Not served
    Not served 6 October 2015 10: 54
    +1
    Quote: Turkir
    The Kurdish problem is very old.
    The famous Salladin (Salah ad-Din) was a Kurd from Cilicia. The Kurdish problem is well described in the book "The Diplomat" by James Aldridge.


    Absolutely, read, a good book.
  24. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 6 October 2015 10: 57
    +2
    Kurds may well get their state after this mess.
    The Soviet Union and Russia support the Kurds and this is far-sighted. In reality, most likely Iraq and Syria already agree to such a state. For Iraq and Syria, the question is survival and something can be sacrificed here.
    However, Iran and especially Turkey will be obstructed here to the last. Especially Turkey. She cannot bear the split and losses. This easy strain is beneficial to Russia.
    That is why the Turks so vote and scream in violation of airspace.
    But they have nothing to do! They do not take fully to Europe. The EU is kept in the backyards. NATO will not join here.
    A boom to watch. Well, weapons must be given.
  25. fregina1
    fregina1 6 October 2015 11: 19
    +2
    The state of Kurdistan can arise unequivocally. On parts of Syria and Iraq ....... which will create a threat to Turkey and a constant conflict between Turkey and Kurdistan! I think under certain circumstances part of Iran could also enter Kurdistan, in exchange for part of Azerbaijan! those. Part of Azerbaijan will be part of Russia (Karabakh (by the way, the conflict is extinguished), plus northern Azerbaijan (to Dagestan) as a corridor to Armenia, (Karabakh), plus Nakhichevan. Part of Iran ... including Baku! ...... Under the current policy of Azerbaijan, its division is absolutely possible ... especially since it is the former territory of Persia, ceded to Russia! Thus, Turkey and Azerbaijan lose!
    But whatever happens, the strength of the Kurds is growing ... and they will not give up theirs! In all this mess, Turkey will lose the most ... but they have played up on the interests of the USA, ignoring their interests
    !
  26. mamont5
    mamont5 6 October 2015 11: 41
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    Quote: regdan
    There was already an agreement. Assad promised them wide autonomy.

    Unlike Erdogan. Togo clearly brings in the wrong direction.
  27. raid14
    raid14 6 October 2015 11: 58
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    First, this statement is made without reservation that the Kurds will welcome Russian bombing against ISIS if the Russian Aerospace Forces will support the Kurds. Kurds remember Soviet support for Saddam Hussein and his gas attacks on Kurdish villages. At the moment, they proceed from the principle "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", fighting with all who turn weapons against them.
  28. N-SKiy
    N-SKiy 6 October 2015 12: 11
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    Quote: veksha50
    If Assad does not stupid and find a compromise with them, he will receive a faithful, devoted (if this is possible in the East) friend and ally ...


    Autonomy for any nation is the minimum that many today strive for. In time, you need to put weapons until the mattresses are fussed.
  29. RAA
    RAA 6 October 2015 12: 44
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    Quote: Byshido_dis
    We have many Turks tied up with the same Turkish Stream + NPP we are building ... I would not want to spoil relations with them
    By this logic, Assad and I must surrender and not bomb the pro-Turkish Islamists in Syria!
  30. roskot
    roskot 6 October 2015 12: 48
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    Hard way for the Kurds. And they must go through it and get their state.
  31. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 13: 24
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    Many thanks to the Author for a great interesting article on the little studied People.
    The Kurds are a very ancient people, perhaps more ancient than Babylon ---- I read it. They have preserved their culture and tribal lifestyle for centuries and have defended it with weapons in their hands for more than 2 thousand years. civilization and finally create their own state. I think they deserve it !!!
    Sources.
    Andrew Collins, The Fallen Angels, M.Eksmo. 2008.
    Myths of the Peoples of the World. M.Soviet Encyclopedia. 1991, Volume 2, St. Malaki-Tauz.
  32. Umnichka
    Umnichka 6 October 2015 14: 48
    +1
    Maybe out of place ... Kurds took a very active part in the Armenian genocide in 1914-15. So "the east is a delicate matter." How will they behave now, get them strength? ... I don't know.
  33. Arandir
    Arandir 7 October 2015 12: 05
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    Relations with Turkey and Iran have just been established, the Kurdish issue can destroy this idyll for a very long time. Comrade Stalin was about to resolve this issue. And instead of hostile Turkey and Iran with American bases, they would have received friendly Kurdistan. Did not work out.
    Although here, not everything is so simple. Kurdistan resembles Yugoslavia very much: five ethnic groups and three faiths. And how the southern bros let down and let down Russia is known.
    It should also be borne in mind that the Medes lost the championship to the Persians many thousands of years ago. Just as Kiev lost the championship to Moscow. Does Russia have the right to intervene in the established order of things?
    Americans probably think they have that right. Better they stuff the bumps.