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NI Observer: Don't Believe American Neocon Tales About Iraq and Syria

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During the protracted US war in Iraq, American neoconservatives created a dangerous lie about stories This conflict, writes columnist for The National Interest, Matt Perple. His article leads RIA News.




Perpl touched upon the topic of interfaith conflict that erupted after the overthrow of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

“The Hawks and the neoconservatives say that the situation in Iraq was allegedly proceeding with violence from Sunni and Shiite uprisings initially, until George Bush heroically intervened in the conflict and decided to send in the US troops. According to the neoconservatives, the United States’s participation in the conflict brought peace to the region until a "cowardly Obama" withdrew troops, which led to the creation of an "Islamic state" ”- notes browser.

According to him, “this presentation of events is more like a fairy tale, but this version is shared by many American intellectuals.”

This “mythical plot” is also used today for interpreting events from Syria.

Perple writes: "The support and armament of the Syrian insurgents from the United States, on which the hawks insisted, and led to the fact that the militants trained by American instructors gave weapon Al-Qaeda, and the Islamic State has American anti-tank missiles. ”

The author recalls that earlier expert Charles Lister, who specializes in the Middle East, wrote: “Ever since the middle of 2012, the overwhelming majority of Syrian militants have been coordinating with Al-Qaeda” for greater effectiveness of the fighting ”.

According to the observer, the participation of Americans in the clashes that occur in the Middle East region, only exacerbates conflicts. And “the fabulous interpretations of the neoconservative situation in Iraq and Syria give a false impression of American power and prevent learning the lessons of fifteen years of war in the Middle East,” concludes Perple.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 6 October 2015 09: 07 New
    +25
    In the creation of lies, the mattresses of the master
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 6 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +12

      The picture is quite transparent:

      Bin Laden tried to break away from the curators, he was removed and put Alkaida again in the service of the owner.

      Now use to the fullest for their own purposes.

      Prepared from the "moderate opposition" - a way to replenish the ranks of the IS and supply weapons.

      Their insolence has no limits, the question is how long will Russia still have to open its eyes to the world

      1. Varyag_1973
        Varyag_1973 6 October 2015 09: 15 New
        +16
        Yes, in my opinion, only a blind-deaf-dumb or down is still not clear who in our world is the "evil empire"! All the evil on our planet comes from the Anglo-Saxons, and it has always been like this, they have lied their entire history, crap and spread their influence where their dirty little hands reached out!
        1. Styx
          Styx 6 October 2015 09: 29 New
          +8
          The trouble is that the blind-deaf-dumb are generally the vast majority !!! Simply, I would say, terrifying grayness! And no matter how sad and among our fellow citizens such oh as not a few: (((
          1. Altona
            Altona 6 October 2015 11: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Styx
            The trouble is that the blind-deaf-dumb are generally the vast majority !!! Simply, I would say, terrifying grayness! And no matter how sad and among our fellow citizens such oh as not a few: (((

            ------------------------
            Yesterday, I read a flowery little article on “Echo of Moscow” by a well-known writer, who wanted to fuck either Gusinsky or Berezovsky when she was young ... It’s about Yulia Latynina, such a curly fairy tale with historical images is written there in the form of Roman emperors and Chinese generals about how backward we are and should not project our military power anywhere ... I advise you to read and read the comments ...

            http://echo.msk.ru/programs/code/1633488-echo/
            ---------------------
            PS Already even supporters of liberal ideas have become disillusioned with Russian "liberalism" ...
            1. Styx
              Styx 6 October 2015 12: 13 New
              0
              Ohhh, I don’t want to get dirty about this rusty poop, it’s nasty to the horror :)))) Tucked in this ear for the most do not indulge. The fact that our people have turned away from liberalism is at such a moment, and it is very pleasing, but then things are not moving much, people are not willing to delve into what is happening outside their apartment. Like, tired of politics: (And it’s a pity, where would it be without it, all the more tied to our country
        2. Tra-ta-ta
          Tra-ta-ta 6 October 2015 10: 16 New
          +3
          All the evil on our planet comes from the Anglo-Saxons, and it has always been so ..
          As Winston Churchill used to say: Americans always find the only right solution (after everyone else has tried) ..
      2. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 6 October 2015 09: 50 New
        +1
        bulvas

        The picture is quite transparent:
        Bin Laden tried to break away from the curators, he was removed and put Alkaida again in the service of the owner.

        Depending on the level of imagination and the needs of the current moment, the JOKER MAY BE CALLED AND A WOLF ... AND A DOG! But how many do not fantasize and do not ascribe certain qualities to this creature ... A JACKER WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A JACKAL!
        So it is with radical Islamic terrorists ... they call themselves so ... their roof in Qatar ... in another way ... in Saudi Arabia - in the third! But THEIR JACKALS NATURE FROM CHANGE OF TITLES AND "COVERAGE ROOF" - DOES NOT CHANGE !!!
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 6 October 2015 10: 23 New
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          Quote: KazaK Bo
          Depending on the level of imagination and the needs of the current moment



          What is the US right now?
          - to enter into a transatlantic partnership with Europe in order to completely subordinate it to trade and, together with the trans-Pacific partnership, to capture almost all markets in the world.

          Refugees disorient Europe, deprive them of the opportunity to think sensibly.
          In addition, they should have in reserve a “solution” to the refugee problem that they will propose to Europe in order to persuade it to enter into a “partnership”

          If Russia succeeds in putting things in order in Syria to stop the flow of refugees, it will be too powerful a move to show who is who and can prevent the United States from seducing a European lady to unnatural proximity.

          The rate is prohibitively high, therefore, the development of events can be anything.

          The US’s double partnership - west and east will seriously limit our and China’s capabilities, it is hard to imagine what the consequences could be.

          A single military-political union may follow a trade partnership, Americans will not be Americans, so as not to go further, they can think big and do not stop there.

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      3. Sterlya
        Sterlya 6 October 2015 11: 16 New
        +1
        there is nothing eternal, and the hegemony of the United States will come to an end.
        the wrong country was called Honduras laughing
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 6 October 2015 15: 23 New
          0
          I completely agree. Even the great Rome eventually rolled. The whole question is, how much to wait, will we survive? I really want to attend!
      4. SALLAK
        SALLAK 6 October 2015 12: 37 New
        0
        Most likely it’s not so simple ... there is most likely a multipolar version ... the CIA thinks or pretends to control Alkaida, it most likely pretends to be subordinate to obtain cover and finances, while pursuing its own goals. The moderates generally create only vanity without a visible effect, but they are sitting on soldering from the CIA ... The CIA cannot understand what is going on in this mess, but rushes forward further since they themselves do not want to lose the allocation to their office ...
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 6 October 2015 09: 10 New
      +12
      But they are exceptional ... storytellers.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 6 October 2015 10: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        But they are exceptional ... storytellers.


        Elections on the nose, so they hang noodles to the electorate. Why is it incomprehensible? Oil painting ... bully Here is Matt Purple there too. yes And the elections will be held and all these blah blahs will be completely forgotten, and only the interest of his Excellency the dollar will remain. fellow
    3. svetoruss
      svetoruss 6 October 2015 09: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: Wend
      In the creation of lies, the mattresses of the master

      Recently, their lies are increasingly looking like nonsense.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 6 October 2015 09: 18 New
        +6
        Iraq was a stable country with a developing economy (oil, gas, etc.) Saddam decided to sit on "two chairs", just like Gaddafi .... Alas, our and yours usually end up like that! Assad is a solid politician , holding on to Russia and holding on .. We appreciated it!
        1. regdan
          regdan 6 October 2015 09: 24 New
          +4
          No one tried to sit on two chairs. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the United States went into the distance no one else had to stop them. This whole situation in the Middle East has been planned since the 90s.
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 6 October 2015 09: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: regdan
            When the Soviet Union collapsed, the United States went into the distance no one else had to stop them.

            Yes, with the death of the Union, BV finally unbalanced. The end of dictators was a matter of time.
            1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
              Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 10: 02 New
              +1
              Through a mass of well-wishers, it is easier for states to control the situation in the country and themselves (well-wishers) than through a dictator.
              1. Das Boot
                Das Boot 6 October 2015 11: 28 New
                0
                Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
                Through a mass of well-wishers, it is easier for states to control the situation in the country and themselves (well-wishers) than through a dictator.

                controlled chaos, yes. Focal destabilization controlled from the outside. In principle, in conditions of unipolarity, remoteness from the sovereign American borders and the state of trained vassals - the option so far is a win-win. And then, all of a sudden ...
        2. 740
          740 6 October 2015 09: 34 New
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Assad is a firm politician, he has held on to Russia and is holding on

          good laughing bully.We hope that he will not forget his benefactors when the time comes to offer thanks, for often the memory of the Arab rulers bothers.
        3. Cat man null
          Cat man null 6 October 2015 09: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Saddam decided to sit on the "two chairs", just like Gaddafi ..

          I don’t quite understand what kind of “two chairs” we are talking about here, but I know for sure that:

          - Six months before the start of the US invasion of Iraq, Saddam refused to pay oil in dollars in favor of the euro.
          - Gaddafi - he even called for a rejection of both the dollar and the euro, and actively promoted the creation of a pan-African currency - the "golden dinar"
          - it is clear that both the one and the other thus substantially “offended” the dollar

          For which both were exponentially strangled request
    4. avt
      avt 6 October 2015 09: 12 New
      +9
      Quote: Wend
      In the creation of lies, the mattresses of the master

      But it’s interesting, however, in the light of what has been stated here, such statements -------- ,,, American Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter said that the United States and its allies are ready to oppose Russia's actions in Syria. In his opinion, the use of Russian aviation only worsens the situation in the country. This was stated by the head of the Pentagon during a speech in Madrid. "----- and adherents of the Strelka sect can explain this -------," I believe that now the war in Syria is a distraction from the desperate situation of supporting the Russians republics in southeastern Ukraine. I believe that volunteers are needed there. If I had the opportunity to form something and return to the Donbass, I would do it without any money, "Strelkov said." ----- I somehow have a question - who will it be? Well, in the sense of what special services, a real colonel "?? Somehow he’s okay in unison, the song is sung, although it seems to be not Makarevich at first glance.
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 6 October 2015 09: 13 New
      +2
      Insane ... with nuclear weapons ... belay
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 October 2015 11: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Wend
      In the creation of lies, the mattresses of the master


      Not really. They have stupid lies, they just deny everything. In the end, this will lead to a very unpleasant ending with full exposure.
    7. morozik
      morozik 6 October 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      Masha inserts media nonsense, teaching them journalism
  2. inkass_98
    inkass_98 6 October 2015 09: 09 New
    +11
    this account of events is more like a fairy tale, but this version is shared by many American intellectuals
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      The intellectuals in them are not those who think and say what they thought up, but those who then come up with what needs to be said for dumbasses.
  3. A-Sim
    A-Sim 6 October 2015 09: 10 New
    0
    The insight will be bitter. Although not for everyone, many will have to pay at the highest price for their media charm.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 6 October 2015 09: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: A-Sim
      The insight will be bitter. Although not for everyone, many will have to pay at the highest price for their media charm.


      And there will be insight ??? Even the Germans are back to square one! Zubotychina acts while witnesses of events remember her. Then everything is forgotten and turns into a myth. We have experienced it more than once in our own skin and history. One can see such a task in this world with us. To pacify all .... to the last opportunity, and then, when our delicacy is taken for weakness and fit into Us. GIVE ON HORNS ... Until next time. And as you can see, it’s worth stricterly declaring your position .. reinforcing it with a material base in the form of military strength and excellent personnel, then immediately the words of the “chosen ones” turn into a popping ..
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 09: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Averias
      I was always tormented by the question - why did they stick out their finger so much. See here for this:

      Put this stupid video again, there will be a warning hi
      1. Averias
        Averias 6 October 2015 09: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Put this stupid video again, there will be a warning

        I beg your pardon, it will not happen again repeat
  5. barclay
    barclay 6 October 2015 09: 15 New
    +12
    this presentation of events is more like a fairy tale, but this version is shared by many American intellectuals. "
    And not only American. They have brothers among our "intellectuals"
    The other day Makaronych flashed his political savvy, of course, on the "Echo ..."
    He is confident that the Western coalition, and especially the United States, knows what to do. And we - so-so ...
    1. venaya
      venaya 6 October 2015 09: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: barclay
      this presentation of events is more like a fairy tale, but this version is shared by many American intellectuals. "
      And not only American. They have brothers among our "intellectuals"

      God forbid to call this creature "intellectual." With one crinkle, and then not working, Makarkvich is a typical "intellectual" - that is, in our opinion a saboteur, if in a word.
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 6 October 2015 09: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: barclay
      Recently Makaronych flashed his political savvy

      Do not you find the rhyme in the combination of de.il and ISIS? It's me about the "man" in the picture.
    3. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: barclay
      The other day Makaronych flashed his political savvy, of course, on the "Echo ..."

      Have you heard? All who post this fake refer to an interview with Lesya Ryabtseva. Her last interview with Makar was on August 13, when there was no talk of any operation in Syria. If there is a link to direct speech - please present.
    4. Irokezz
      Irokezz 6 October 2015 10: 06 New
      +2
      You can offer him to drive into the territory of this "state" and perform concerts in their support. I think soon we will see how a dear guest is dressed in "national" orange clothes and listen to what he will bleat before the "ritual".
    5. DV69
      DV69 6 October 2015 10: 31 New
      0
      and the other day Makaronych flashed his political savvy, of course on "Echo ..."


      But is this creature still an authority for someone? All his actions and words of recent years are aimed at one thing - to bring harm to the country in which it grew, received education and for a long time earned money.
      Why talk about what has long been rotten and terribly stinks? Not him, just not.
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  7. vell.65
    vell.65 6 October 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    In the creation of lies, the mattresses of the master

    What news agencies in the West and the states publish true information or do they continue to live in the world of comics and star wars.
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 6 October 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: bulvas
    Bin Laden tried to break away from the curators, he was removed and put Alkaida again in the service of the owner.

    He didn’t try anything. They made a “scarecrow” out of him and removed him before he could speak.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 6 October 2015 10: 13 New
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      Quote: bulvas
      Bin Laden tried to break away from the curators, he was removed and put Alkaida again in the service of the owner.

      He didn’t try anything. They made a “scarecrow” out of him and removed him before he could speak.


      I tried and started from Afghanistan, so the United States had to go in there
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  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2015 09: 17 New
    +2
    This "mythical plot" is also used today to interpret events in Syria.

    But he is right.
  10. pvv113
    pvv113 6 October 2015 09: 18 New
    +11
    Everywhere where mattresses climbed with their democracy, there is a war, ruin and a humanitarian catastrophe reign. No country has become prosperous after US invasion
  11. iZVerG
    iZVerG 6 October 2015 09: 26 New
    0
    Drain the frame!
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 10: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: iZVerG
      Drain the frame!

      Who are you?
      oh yes ... backstage same ...
      1. DV69
        DV69 6 October 2015 10: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: iZVerG
        Drain the frame!

        Who are you?
        oh yes ... backstage same ...


        Here I agree with you. no one is merging Obama, it makes no sense. Why merge one who does not decide anything? America is ruled by corporations, not presidents. All presidents who disagreed with this ended badly.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 6 October 2015 10: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: DV69
          Why merge one who does not decide anything? America is ruled by corporations, not presidents.

          absolutely. Corporate fascism - that’s it.
  12. manguest
    manguest 6 October 2015 09: 30 New
    0
    In this situation, whatever the “partners” would have invented, they are at an impasse. Not only has the GDP been ahead of schedule in Syria and there is practically no time for them to catch up with all their wishes, they also need to decide who to bet on, they themselves will not climb, but those who want to NOW are substituted in the afternoon with you will not find fire.
  13. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 6 October 2015 09: 40 New
    +2
    The answer that Amers need in the world, and specifically in the Middle East is (however, as elsewhere) the creation of sustainable chaos by arming terrorist groups with their equipment (this military-industrial complex, this is money), establishing their political influence (by appointing puppets (recruited, trained in Colombian or other universities, the arrival on the territory of amerskie companies (this is money and power).
  14. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 09: 51 New
    0
    An interesting direct speech "... I do not know, therefore Russia should not ...."
    Logic is awesome, and I. "an unwise person, bl.!"
    Where is the house of music? Enemy's nest. Which city does it suffer?
  15. Yarik
    Yarik 6 October 2015 10: 08 New
    +13
    yes, of course we remember!
  16. Simon
    Simon 6 October 2015 10: 09 New
    0
    Where Americans climb into any country, there is war and the misery of the people. And in Syria it turned out to be a turnaround, all American plans collapsed when our planes appeared.
  17. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 10: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Yarik
    yes, of course we remember!

    It was in memory of these pilots that ISIS was created so that others would suffer, especially women and children.
    The same incomprehensible logic.
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  19. roskot
    roskot 6 October 2015 12: 39 New
    0
    This “mythical plot” is also used today to interpret events from Syria.

    It seems that the States are prone to myths and tales. But it's time to go down to the sinful earth.
  20. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 6 October 2015 15: 30 New
    0
    The country of comics lives in myths and a fairy tale. She lives in a fairy tale herself, and turns others into myths ...