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Turkish Foreign Ministry announced another violation of air borders by Russian aircraft

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The representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Turkey said that on Sunday the Russian military aircraft once again violated the Turkish air borders, noting that the Russian ambassador in Moscow was summoned for clarification, reports RIA "News".


Turkish Foreign Ministry announced another violation of air borders by Russian aircraft


Earlier, the Turkish Foreign Ministry reported that on Saturday, the Turkish tracking means recorded a violation of the airspace by a Russian military aircraft, which had proceeded from Syria towards the Yayladagi region of Hatay province. Later, the press attache of the Russian embassy in Turkey, Igor Mityakov, said that the Turkish side had received all the necessary explanations from the Turkish embassy in Moscow. In turn, according to Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, the incident will not cause a deterioration in relations between the countries. At the same time, Moscow was assured that the violation had occurred by mistake and would not happen again.

Earlier, the Turkish General Staff reported that on Sunday, an unknown MiG-29 fighter was pursuing two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the Turkish-Syrian border area. In turn, the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov, denied the involvement of the Russian air group in this incident, stressing that “there are no planes of this type at the Khmeimim airbase”.

Meanwhile, a message appeared on the Naftemporiki website. that on Monday, Turkish military aircraft violated Greek air space four times, invading it in the southeastern and central parts of the Aegean Sea.
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  1. siberko
    siberko 6 October 2015 08: 40 New
    -4
    Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 6 October 2015 08: 52 New
      +1
      violations occurred by mistake and will not happen again.

      Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 6 October 2015 08: 56 New
        +22
        Quote: siberko
        Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks


        - Why?

        Quote: MIKHAN
        Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!


        - And is this the only way to show your “seriousness”?

        - As for me, you just need to apologize indifferently: "Sorry, Turkey, this is an accident." To show that we are not interested in these minor incidents while the operation is underway to restore peace in the East. Turkey, by the way, should also be interested in this.
        1. meriem1
          meriem1 6 October 2015 09: 14 New
          +27
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Quote: siberko
          Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks


          - Why?

          Quote: MIKHAN
          Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!


          - And is this the only way to show your “seriousness”?

          - As for me, you just need to apologize indifferently: "Sorry, Turkey, this is an accident." To show that we are not interested in these minor incidents while the operation is underway to restore peace in the East. Turkey, by the way, should also be interested in this.


          For those who are near, this is an incident and a violation. Anyone who is in the habit of thinking can see in this "violation" a way to open the radar system (for a minute) of the NATO country not far from its base. And take pictures of the location of troops at the border (and recreation centers igil)! What Turkey is interested in is evident not with an armed gaze. Supporting the opposition and exterminating the Kurds. As well as a geshevtom on stolen oil.
          1. Alexey-74
            Alexey-74 6 October 2015 09: 20 New
            +9
            unequivocally, ours are probing the entire air defense system of Turkey and the time of their response ....
            1. Nishtiag
              Nishtiag 6 October 2015 10: 15 New
              -6
              You want to say that ours are going to (or at least are considering) the option of delivering an air strike on the territory of Turkey? A member of NATO?)))) This is just ridiculous ... Ours can theoretically become impudent and launch several missiles at some left country, but not at a NATO member.
              1. a71
                a71 6 October 2015 14: 33 New
                -2
                Well, do not be so straightforward. They can simply reveal data on Turkey’s tracking systems, which would later be taken into account when planning operations (since the same Turks are most likely to coordinate the actions of terrorists).
          2. Haettenschweiler
            Haettenschweiler 6 October 2015 09: 28 New
            +5
            Quote: meriem1
            For those who are near, this is an incident and a violation. Anyone who is in the habit of thinking can see in this "violation" a way to open the radar system (for a minute) of the NATO country not far from its base. And take pictures of the location of troops at the border (and recreation centers igil)! What Turkey is interested in is evident not with an armed gaze. Supporting the opposition and exterminating the Kurds. As well as a geshevtom on stolen oil.


            - For those who are near, during the execution of combat missions a “violation of the air borders” of a neighboring state can happen - the pilots obviously have something to do, except for constantly checking the map and guessing, I violated - I didn’t violate. No one gave them any warnings — at least not a word about it in the article — so they themselves might not have known that they had hooked Turkish air on their wings. Turkey’s radar system is hardly a secret today - when the US began to put its missiles there, Turkey was studied along and across our agents and intelligence equipment. And if the Turks don’t like the probability of “getting burned” by “stolen oil”, then there’s only one recipe - stop pulling it and the problem will disappear. No one can hope to maintain the “status quo” in Syria if a sufficiently serious third force in the form of a Federation intervenes in these dark affairs. And this, by the way, is not a usual pathos, but a true fact: to the Russians to the waist all the schemes built by the "coalition" in Syria, they came to support Assad and they do it.
            1. Nishtiag
              Nishtiag 6 October 2015 10: 16 New
              0
              in general, it seems to me that it would be worthwhile for the Turks with ours to stipulate the possibility of violating their borders by our aircraft, because this is inevitable ... why not solve it immediately in advance.
              1. Eugene-Eugene
                Eugene-Eugene 6 October 2015 19: 55 New
                +1
                Unlikely. In diplomacy, there is such a thing "inviolability of borders." Remember the bases with the Korean Boeing.
                1. Scraptor
                  Scraptor 6 October 2015 22: 21 New
                  -1
                  Do not align the passage through the entire Far East with a clearly spy function and a violation of all conventions on civil aviation, so that a tactical plane on a complex section of the border simply does not fit into the bend.
            2. ancient
              ancient 6 October 2015 17: 11 New
              +2
              Quote: Haettenschweiler
              For those who are near, during the execution of combat missions a “violation of the air borders” of a neighboring state may happen - the pilots obviously have something to do, except for constantly checking the map and guessing, violated - did not violate.


              For the first koment, which he put at the beginning of the tape. +! And here, I'm sorry, but only a minus .:

              1. There is a MODE of flights in the border zone and strip.
              2. “Just hooked” can easily end up being “stuck with your nose into the ground” and they will be right, because. aircraft of a foreign state with an ARMED weapon (if you have not noticed) has invaded the airspace of a foreign state.

              Well, and the 3rd. "Excuse" Konoshenkova due to the proximity of the border and weather conditions, as a result of which .. well, etc ... it’s such a ... WHAT, no way (well, something like .. "haze from the cracks and holes in the bunker, at the first airstrike) soldier
          3. BecmepH
            BecmepH 6 October 2015 10: 13 New
            +3
            What nonsense))) For a long time Turkey has been thoroughly illuminated. And you don’t have to fly on planes for reconnaissance. Well, the pilot got spoiled. It happens to everyone. Or the braking distance is not calculated)))
            1. nik39reg
              nik39reg 6 October 2015 11: 38 New
              +1
              Yes! Yes! About the braking distance, this is the very point! winked
          4. evge-malyshev
            evge-malyshev 6 October 2015 10: 14 New
            0
            Quote: meriem1
            For those who are near, this is an incident and a violation. Anyone who is in the habit of thinking can see in this "violation" a way to open the radar system (for a minute) of the NATO country not far from its base. And take pictures of the location of troops at the border (and recreation centers igil)! What Turkey is interested in is evident not with an armed gaze. Supporting the opposition and exterminating the Kurds. As well as a geshevtom on stolen oil.


            Maybe you are right. I would like to believe in it.
            1. ancient
              ancient 6 October 2015 17: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: evge-malyshev
              Maybe you are right.


              It would be very interesting to know .. what is the "miraculous" way to do "an autopsy of the radar of the NATO country" and something else to "take off" while not having ANYTHING on board ??? wassat
              Well, such "whores" always end .. "sadly" on September 23, 2014 MiG-23BN, September 16, Mi-17 .. the same .... "fornication" on your ..... ass soldier
          5. Karlovar
            Karlovar 6 October 2015 12: 19 New
            -2
            "Unintentional violation" was most likely intentional, for the reasons listed above for you .... definitely ...
        2. Poppy
          Poppy 6 October 2015 09: 28 New
          +11
          actually happened
          ours answered like:
          Yes, they flew in, by the weather they landed from this side, and so what?
          better watch yourself, also fly into Syria and even bomb without government permission
          1. ancient
            ancient 6 October 2015 17: 27 New
            -1
            Quote: Poppy
            Yes, they flew in, by the weather they landed from this side, and so what?


            Where flew .. for any weather? Do you have a 4 ++ plane or .... "ancient hearse"?
            Look at least a map .. where is the runway, and where is the Turkish border.
            1. Eugene-Eugene
              Eugene-Eugene 6 October 2015 19: 57 New
              -1
              He says that answered. And in the context of the fact that such a response is sufficient to resolve the misunderstanding that has arisen.
        3. Styx
          Styx 6 October 2015 09: 53 New
          -1
          That's it: It would have to, but if it hadn't been for :(
        4. BMP-2
          BMP-2 6 October 2015 12: 00 New
          +1
          As I understand it, the glory of the "last Chinese warning" is haunting the Turks, but they are still not morally ready to say that this was the "last Turkish statement", because they believe that this statement may indeed turn out to be the last! laughing
        5. aleksfill
          aleksfill 6 October 2015 17: 40 New
          0
          Russia canceled the laying of the third and fourth gas pipeline lines along the bottom
          Black Sea to Turkey.
          Perhaps this is an apology.
      2. evfrat
        evfrat 6 October 2015 08: 57 New
        0
        But you really like to joke, for any reason. 3 errors in one sentence - how? Tell me ... a joker.
      3. SSR
        SSR 6 October 2015 08: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: MIKHAN
        violations occurred by mistake and will not happen again.

        Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!

        Mikhan, if terrorists from NATO countries want to inflict losses on our airspace forces in Syria, they will do it, they won’t even have time to recharge four Su-30s (roughly speaking), it’s another matter that this is essentially a declaration of war by the Russian Federation, but then NATO terrorists must be prepared that strikes will be inflicted on their bases in Incirlik and Norfolk, and you and I must be prepared for such a turn, and this is a hot 3rd World War. Something like this. And Urya slogans are not appropriate at this time.
        Ps
        My minuses, in order to attract attention)))
        Pss
        Shaded stars are a double-edged sword. Moreover, only fighter jams.
        1. fox21h
          fox21h 6 October 2015 09: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: SSR
          Quote: MIKHAN
          violations occurred by mistake and will not happen again.

          Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!

          Mikhan, if terrorists from NATO countries want to inflict losses on our airspace forces in Syria, they will do it, they won’t even have time to recharge four Su-30s (roughly speaking), it’s another matter that this is essentially a declaration of war by the Russian Federation, but then NATO terrorists must be prepared that strikes will be inflicted on their bases in Incirlik and Norfolk, and you and I must be prepared for such a turn, and this is a hot 3rd World War. Something like this. And Urya slogans are not appropriate at this time.
          Ps
          My minuses, in order to attract attention)))
          Pss
          Shaded stars are a double-edged sword. Moreover, only fighter jams.

          This will be problematic, since our aircraft are covered not only by 4 fighters, but also by a group of ships, as well as ground-based means, so you are talking nonsense.
          1. Poppy
            Poppy 6 October 2015 09: 29 New
            +4
            they write that a very powerful air defense group was created previously
            and only then the planes arrived
        2. inkass_98
          inkass_98 6 October 2015 09: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: SSR
          four Su-30 will not even have time to recharge

          Su-30 do not perform strike functions, they just provide air cover for attack aircraft. Those. still need to try to bring down the plane, which is just waiting for a blow in its direction.
        3. BecmepH
          BecmepH 6 October 2015 10: 20 New
          0
          Shaded stars are a double-edged sword. Moreover, only fighter jams.
          And what, dear connoisseur, airplanes still, like 100 years ago, are determined by the drawings on the "body"?)))) Tumble F-16 Russian tricolors, he will not become a Russian aircraft from this.
        4. evfrat
          evfrat 6 October 2015 10: 29 New
          +1
          And it’s easy to shout to him with flat feet.
      4. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 6 October 2015 09: 09 New
        +8
        For MIKHAN
        Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!

        Sometimes I support you, but here you wrote nonsense.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 6 October 2015 09: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: rotmistr60
          For MIKHAN
          Nato often break ... Russia does not like to joke!

          Sometimes I support you, but here you wrote nonsense.

          I do not agree ... Turkey is a NATO member and we "NATO" to restrain them like that! And border violations are not "hooliganism", but Turkey’s intelligence and warning so that they don’t get into our affairs! (many I think so just did not understand me ...) I do not like to write and paint a lot! hi It happens ... I will consider!
          1. evfrat
            evfrat 6 October 2015 10: 31 New
            +1
            You do not hold back better, otherwise the fart will tear
      5. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 09: 12 New
        +7
        Quote: MIKHAN
        NATO is more likely to break ..

        Quote: siberko
        Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks

        Have you both drunk in the morning or are you tired of the peaceful sky over your head?
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 6 October 2015 09: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: MIKHAN
          NATO is more likely to break ..

          Quote: siberko
          Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks

          Have you both drunk in the morning or are you tired of the peaceful sky over your head?

          No, Alexander, I wrote everything correctly! Erdogan is a "cunning and cowardly fox" And the USA has long been pushing him to arrange a "small batch" of Kurds .. And Russia does not agree and we just warn ... hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 09: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: MIKHAN
            No, Alexander, I wrote everything correctly! Erdogan is a "cunning and cowardly fox" And the USA has long been pushing him to arrange a "small batch" of Kurds .. But Russia does not agree and we just warn

            A carte blanche has been received, although you will not be sitting at the controls of our aircraft, yes wink
            John Kerry said that Turkey could have shot down a Russian plane.
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 6 October 2015 09: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: MIKHAN
              No, Alexander, I wrote everything correctly! Erdogan is a "cunning and cowardly fox" And the USA has long been pushing him to arrange a "small batch" of Kurds .. But Russia does not agree and we just warn

              A carte blanche has been received, although you will not be sitting at the controls of our aircraft, yes wink
              John Kerry said that Turkey could have shot down a Russian plane.

              Risking it in the blood of the Russians, especially when everyone got it! Everything went fine ... God keeps our pilots!
              1. evfrat
                evfrat 6 October 2015 10: 36 New
                +3
                Oh ... have you gotten everyone already? Risking a pot today in the morning? But everything went fine? Congratulations, oh great shit-fighter.
              2. Scoun
                Scoun 6 October 2015 10: 56 New
                +2
                Quote: MIKHAN
                Risking it in the blood of the Russians, especially when everyone got it! Everything went fine ... God keeps our pilots!

                Oh Meehan .... it's like from life ..
                He takes a Russian car to himself, immediately sculpts the Holy Trinity on a torpedo .... but he himself can’t clip on it.
                So, God, he can and protects our pilots (especially in the light of the latest air disasters), but you can’t even click on the bread.

                Hope for God - but don’t be fooled.
                Quote: BecmepH
                And what, dear connoisseur, planes still, like 100 years ago, are determined by the drawings on the "body"?

                you from the ground or from the cockpit immediately to the "eye" determine the affiliation of the aircraft? or you have everything and everything flies with the transponders turned on and sitting in the trench you look at who is flying up staring at the monitor magical? .. yours, Alien or Syrian and from your knee make a decision .. but let's knock down ... anyway Syrian ... ?
                If you are such a connoisseur, then can you explain the reason why the stars are painted over and side numbers are not painted over? although tracing the story is easy enough - Red 21
                (2014) Su-30SM fighters have w / n 21, 23, 26 “red” and will be replenished in the near future the 2nd squadron of the 120th mixed aviation regiment based at the Domna airfield.

                In general, if you already know FSE .. then can share your knowledge? and then the people are wondering why so why?
                Just do not about Iran "drive the blizzard."
          2. evfrat
            evfrat 6 October 2015 10: 33 New
            +3
            Mikhan is already broadcasting on behalf of all of Russia. Shoulder straps marshal's peace do not give.
        2. Kiroant
          Kiroant 6 October 2015 09: 40 New
          +4
          A little rude, but I agree. A bad world is better than a good war. Even lightning fast and victorious.
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        4. evfrat
          evfrat 6 October 2015 10: 33 New
          0
          These usually have flat feet, enuresis, and dementia. The mobilization will not affect, so it remains to scream, and make "significant" statements.
      6. shalim
        shalim 6 October 2015 10: 01 New
        +4
        Guys, don’t mess with each other, for this reason. What and what benefits do they (Turks) get from the conflict in Syria even my spouse knows. I’m just doing about our aces - they’re doing the right thing, from there all the rubbish is coming, U) as they close our shop. ..
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 6 October 2015 10: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: shalim
          Guys, don’t mess with each other, for this reason. What and what benefits do they (Turks) get from the conflict in Syria even my spouse knows. I’m just doing about our aces - they’re doing the right thing, from there all the rubbish is coming, U) as they close our shop. ..

          Plus, you are big from me! hi
    2. Slobber
      Slobber 6 October 2015 09: 00 New
      -2
      Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks

      Of course just need clash with the Turks. Russia doesn’t need a stream, now you can export bombs, and Russia is not used to diplomacy with Turks.
      But seriously, think about it. Departures outside the designated territory are normal. Avon and Pukistanites shot down our Su-25 during the war in Afghanistan. If this is a deliberate provocation (and ours, whatever one may say, know how subtly, but hard), then I see no real reason for it.
      By the way. Maybe our powerholders will boost the economy just like (like, not like) America? Country which can smudge anything and bomb anyone - a priori a good partner, even if you need to bend under it. Yes, and the military-industrial complex will finally receive a breath of air, and will not eat away just subsidies.
      1. Vend
        Vend 6 October 2015 09: 09 New
        0
        Very similar to a provocation against Russia.
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    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 6 October 2015 09: 19 New
      +2
      Well, they explained to them - WE ARE LANDING SO WE GO !!! laughing
    4. Sterlya
      Sterlya 6 October 2015 10: 52 New
      0
      Quote: siberko
      Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks

      Of course, intentionally violating the meaning is not enough. Unless for reconnaissance and verification of the reaction and actions of the Turks.
      And rather, our pilots are used to flying in Russia with its vast territories. And there really isn’t almost anywhere to turn around laughing
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 6 October 2015 08: 40 New
    +17
    Any reason for the demarche and tantrum. At such a pace, it will be easier for our ambassador to settle right in the Turkish Foreign Ministry.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 6 October 2015 08: 45 New
      +6
      This is the hysteria of the NATO.
      1. zzz
        zzz 6 October 2015 08: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander 3
        This is the hysteria of the NATO.

        They will fasten teeth from powerlessness:

        - This is exactly what Turkey could react to and bring down the plane. And this is what we warned about, ”Kerry emphasized. http://lifenews.ru/news/163232
        1. Poppy
          Poppy 6 October 2015 09: 30 New
          0
          and they can bring down a plane?
          1. kolyhalovs
            kolyhalovs 6 October 2015 09: 49 New
            +2
            Turks then !? Well, they are not made with a finger. And so here they wrote a lot like in the Donbass from light machine guns and other inconsequences shot down by planes. So the probability of a plane crash is always above zero.
            1. Tilkus75
              Tilkus75 6 October 2015 10: 42 New
              +3
              The Turkish army is one of the most combat-ready in Europe, if not the most combat-ready!
              I would rather see them among allies rather than enemies. In general, Turkey is the darkest horse in the region. The main bases of the militants are located at their borders. Their goals are not clear to me. But something tells me that soon I will have to help the Greeks.
  3. Kiroant
    Kiroant 6 October 2015 08: 40 New
    +4
    The cause of the Swedes lives and thrives ...
    1. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 6 October 2015 08: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: KiroAnt
      The cause of the Swedes lives and thrives ...


      about the submarine? laughing
      1. Kiroant
        Kiroant 6 October 2015 08: 52 New
        +1
        Exactly. As the immortal Shpak said: MiG-29 - 3 units, Su-34 - 3 units, submarines with dozens.
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  4. Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 6 October 2015 08: 41 New
    +4
    in a stranger’s eye he sees a straw, in his does not see a log
  5. vladnn2015
    vladnn2015 6 October 2015 08: 41 New
    +8
    "Earlier, the Turkish General Staff reported that on Sunday an unknown MiG-29 fighter was chasing two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Turkish-Syrian border."
    lol Some crap!
  6. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 6 October 2015 08: 41 New
    +8
    I hope the Turks will forgive us. I understand that they wanted to rob Syria, but still I think they remember who the RUSSIANS are ... laughing
  7. V.ic
    V.ic 6 October 2015 08: 42 New
    +11
    By the way, MiG-29 aircraft are available from NATO. Americans can very well organize a provocation.
    1. bayard
      bayard 6 October 2015 08: 48 New
      +9
      MiG-29 aircraft are not part of the Russian air group, so any provocation to the great shame of Turkish dreamers.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 6 October 2015 10: 59 New
        0
        Earlier, the Turkish General Staff reported that on Sunday an unknown MiG-29 fighter was chasing two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Turkish-Syrian border. In turn, an official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov, denied the involvement of the Russian air group in this incident, stressing that "aircraft of this type at the airbase “Hamim” no».

        Quote: bayard
        MiG-29 aircraft no as part of the Russian air group

        Are the differences fundamental?
  8. Sergey K.
    Sergey K. 6 October 2015 08: 42 New
    +2
    On Sunday, an unknown MiG-29 fighter chased two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Turkish-Syrian border.

    In even how, and tomorrow they will say that we are already flying to Turkey as to our home.
    1. kizhe
      kizhe 6 October 2015 09: 06 New
      0
      Well, that’s only if you warm yourself on the beach.
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 6 October 2015 11: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey K.
      they’ll say that we are already flying to Turkey as our home.

      Nah, these Armenians drove the Turks a bit ...
  9. pascal309
    pascal309 6 October 2015 08: 43 New
    +2
    Well, raise the whine, well, flew for a couple of seconds, so what !!
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 6 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +1
    The Turks themselves are “Political impotent people” who cannot. All that remains is to yap toward Russia, show the whole world and Washington their significance. (Reminds a situation in Dill, but at least there is a war going on in their territory ..).
    1. stdemetrio
      stdemetrio 6 October 2015 08: 57 New
      +1
      Apparently their significance as a bridge between Europe and Asia hit the head a lot :)
  11. vovanpain
    vovanpain 6 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +8
    The main thing is to crow the Turks, but at least do not dawn there.
  12. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 6 October 2015 08: 46 New
    +8
    One MIG drove two F-16s? Good news!
  13. GUKTU
    GUKTU 6 October 2015 08: 47 New
    +6
    To the Turks @ Co. it means you can fly over Syria, but ours not. wink Get used to the Turks flying our VKS. (Was the air force more beautiful, men?)
    1. Orlenok ILLI4A
      Orlenok ILLI4A 6 October 2015 08: 54 New
      0
      Maybe it’s just more familiar? IMHO VKS-sounds ... more dangerous or something, not just aerospace))
    2. Tomorrow's War
      Tomorrow's War 6 October 2015 09: 16 New
      +3
      We with the videoconferencing system are moving smoothly into the future comrades, which Zorich wrote to us !!!
  14. Afinogen
    Afinogen 6 October 2015 08: 48 New
    +5
    Turkish Foreign Ministry announced another violation of air borders by Russian aircraft


    Whatever cow mumbled, how they themselves bombed the Kurds in Syrian territory without asking anyone it is possible, but then if they lightly capture their territory, they will already begin to cry.
  15. Tatarus
    Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 51 New
    0
    So it’s from Georgia, laughing it's not us. Moreover, there are NO MIGs of ours in Syria. And let the Turks get used to drying out after our flights.
  16. linadherent
    linadherent 6 October 2015 08: 51 New
    +2
    How is it not? belay Did the Turks see him? Nah, men, I will never smoke Turkish hemp, with her glitches are worse than squirrels ... lol
    1. forester
      forester 6 October 2015 08: 59 New
      +1
      That's right - it’s more patriotic to smoke Kyakhtinsky (“Buryatka”) laughing
  17. Orlenok ILLI4A
    Orlenok ILLI4A 6 October 2015 08: 52 New
    +1
    Do not push the Turks, otherwise our harsh submarine will creep out onto your shore, the very one that the Swedes could not find :)
  18. chikenous59
    chikenous59 6 October 2015 08: 53 New
    +1
    Yesterday I read somewhere that an SU-30 plane with an unidentified ethnicity took two Turkish fighters in sight and kept them on the fly for either 2, or 2 minutes))) Here they are!
  19. Old26
    Old26 6 October 2015 08: 53 New
    +6
    Quote: siberko
    Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks

    There is nothing good about it. Violation of airspace is a violation of airspace, that is, the state border. For some reason, we react violently when someone else’s plane invades our territory, our airspace, especially a military one, but as for others, they say it’s good, the Turks need to press their tail. Law is law. Especially about state borders.

    Quote: V.ic
    By the way, MiG-29 aircraft are available from NATO. Americans can very well organize a provocation.

    There is no provocation. There was a Syrian and two Turkish fighters. This is already known, at least more than a day.

    Quote: Michael m
    One MIG drove two F-16s? Good news!

    And no one MIG "drove". I understand that for many, the phrase ONE MIG DRIVING TWO TURKISH F-16- like a balm for woundsbut you have to be realistic.
  20. Stinger
    Stinger 6 October 2015 08: 58 New
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    Started. NATO is working as traffic cops. And the manners are the same: well, what, are we breaking? How will we solve the issue?
  21. Kiroant
    Kiroant 6 October 2015 09: 02 New
    +1
    "On Sunday, an unknown MiG-29 fighter chased two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the Turkish-Syrian border region."
    And with shouts: "Tagiill"!
  22. lunoxod
    lunoxod 6 October 2015 09: 04 New
    +2
    Russian ambassador in Moscow.

    How to understand it.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 6 October 2015 10: 55 New
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      Quote: lunoxod
      Russian ambassador in Moscow.

      How to understand it.

      Everything is correct. Finally, they recognized that Moscow is not Russia, but an independent state. laughing
  23. mitya24
    mitya24 6 October 2015 09: 06 New
    +2
    Just ours combine business with pleasure. Where "nice" is to bomb nonhumans in human guise, and "useful" is to feel NATO air defense, time of detection, time of interception, etc.
  24. mamont5
    mamont5 6 October 2015 09: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: SSR
    if terrorists from NATO countries want to inflict losses on our VKS in Syria, they will do it, the four Su-30s will not even have time to recharge (roughly speaking), another thing is that in fact, this is a declaration of war of the Russian Federation


    "in fact, this is a declaration of war of the Russian Federation"
    That's it. And it is unlikely that the United States or its allies will go for it. Nobody wants to butt in the military with Russia. And NATO is more than anyone, despite all their warlike rhetoric. Not the time and the wrong forces. And people are not the same.
  25. pvv113
    pvv113 6 October 2015 09: 08 New
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    Earlier, the Turkish General Staff reported that on Sunday an unknown MiG-29 fighter was chasing two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Turkish-Syrian border

    That's it - UNKNOWN wink
    The MIG-29 fighter near the Syrian-Turkish border captured two Turkish F-16 aircraft as a target. This was stated today by the General Staff of Turkey, indicating that "the nationality of the aircraft has not been established."
    The incident occurred on October 4. “Ten F-16 aircraft (Turkish Air Force) patrolled around the Turkish-Syrian border. During the performance of this mission, the MIG-29 aircraft with unidentified state ownership for five minutes and 40 seconds held two of our F-16s at the sight of its radar, ”the General Staff said.
    The military department did not provide other details. MIG-29 was allegedly located in Syrian airspace and did not violate the Turkish border

    http://news.rambler.ru/world/31529141/
    1. tongilguk
      tongilguk 6 October 2015 11: 44 New
      0
      It is very likely that Turkey is looking for an excuse. Of course, a pilot’s mistake and an accidental flight into Turkish airspace are possible, but still the number of patrolling aircraft at the border, inflating an elephant from a regular situation like this:
      MIG-29 with unidentified state ownership for five minutes and 40 seconds kept two of our F-16s at the sight of its radar
      and it
      MIG-29 was allegedly located in Syrian airspace and did not violate the Turkish border
      makes me think. Moreover, the Turks also apparently kept him in sight all this time.
  26. slizhov
    slizhov 6 October 2015 09: 12 New
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    Moaned Erdogan ...
    Who came up with the cooperation with this entity, which created a haven for terrorists,
    "pull" some kind of Turkish stream ???
  27. tommy717
    tommy717 6 October 2015 09: 12 New
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    And if it’s just more convenient for us to turn around to bomb Isil? A plane is not a car. You need to understand. Well, let’s say to the Turks once again: “A mistake has come out”. Let them rub off. And with the Turkish stream it is similar and so Trindets. If they hadn’t hoped for him, they would have started the operation earlier.
  28. uhu189
    uhu189 6 October 2015 09: 13 New
    +1
    I do not see anything joyful in these incidents. I'm afraid it can all end very badly. The Turks already have a similar experience when a Syrian plane (and a helicopter too) was sold by Turkish fighters over Syrian territory. Moreover, it is not at all a fact that he really entered the Turkish airspace. What will our leadership do if, God forbid, the Turks bring down our plane, I don’t know. What will our people do if the NATO declared the north of Syria a no-fly zone - I don’t know either. I'd love to believe that such options were calculated. For all the supply of our air base is based on the transit of goods by our BDK through the Turkish Bosphorus and the Dardanelles.
  29. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2015 09: 15 New
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    It is necessary to reason logically. The fact that they violated the airspace of Turkey is to blame, they apologized. But do not make a tragedy out of this. During such an operation, any "misunderstandings" may occur. The main thing now is to maintain normal relations with those who want to cooperate with us.
  30. lukewarm
    lukewarm 6 October 2015 09: 15 New
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    Earlier, the Turkish General Staff reported that on Sunday an unknown MiG-29 fighter was chasing two Turkish F-16 aircraft in the area of ​​the Turkish-Syrian border.

    Exactly fellow and not otherwise. Did the two of them get away from him? Boo-ha-ha. They wouldn’t disgrace their warriors, they themselves would be dishonored.
  31. regdan
    regdan 6 October 2015 09: 26 New
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    Have you been flown into foreign territory? Having modern equipment such as this is hard to believe.
  32. Engineer
    Engineer 6 October 2015 09: 35 New
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    This is not good. It beats the reputation of the VKS and its pilots.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 6 October 2015 09: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      This is not good. It beats the reputation of the VKS and its pilots.

      Why are you all so scared then ..? Or do you hope that we’ll bomb and dump from Syria a couple of weeks? If you get involved, then go to the end! Yes, Russia is acting impudently (maybe it’s bluffing somewhere) If we back off, they will immediately crush us ... Everyone is waiting for Putin’s mistake! Do not wait .. hi
  33. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 6 October 2015 09: 44 New
    +1
    From one side you look and think - "So you ... NATO."
    On the other - "You will show off, will become part of the Russian Federation"
    But with the third, a little more reasonable and behind the foam of irrationalism - "Still, there are failures in the software", "Yet our pilots are inexperienced in some way"
    And from here the last comes up. The assumption behind the assumption is, so to speak, "What if this is the study of the enemy? Border checks? Radars, air defense?"
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 6 October 2015 10: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: ShadowCat
      And from here the last comes up. The assumption behind the assumption is, so to speak, "What if this is the study of the enemy? Border checks? Radars, air defense?"

      In the right direction, reason ...! As the saying goes, "they’re afraid of wolves, don’t go to the forest .." But the wolf divorced a lot ... hi
  34. lecturer
    lecturer 6 October 2015 09: 49 New
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    WHAT, THE PARTIES remembered Ushakov as the Russian navy at night ... etc. And now the Russian air fleet with the same falconry night fervor ... and
    ... the Turkish side received all the necessary clarifications ... in Moscow. In turn, according to the Turkish Prime Minister ..., the incident will not cause deterioration in relations between the countries.
  35. Old26
    Old26 6 October 2015 09: 59 New
    0
    Quote: tommy717
    And if it’s just more convenient for us to turn around to bomb Isil? A plane is not a car. You need to understand. Well, let’s say to the Turks once again: “A mistake has come out”. Let them rub off. And with the Turkish stream it is similar and so Trindets. If they hadn’t hoped for him, they would have started the operation earlier.


    And if you need to turn around on a car, do you go to the oncoming lane and let the other drivers and traffic cops disappear? After all, are you eating?
    A “mistake” can happen once, twice, but if it becomes regular, then this is no longer a mistake, but a system, in this case a provocation against Turkey.
    And I'm afraid that with this option, we will probably have to wipe ourselves off. For by doing so we will give an occasion, to do the same with us.

    Similarly, a NATO aircraft is deployed over the Baltic, well, flew a hundred or two meters into the territory of the Kaliningrad region. so it is necessary to understand. The plane is not a car, let the Russians rub off.

    Or the Japanese, accidentally begin to turn around Sakhalin - you need to understand, the plane is not a car ... Let the Russians wipe themselves off at the same time. So what?

    Not reasoning - but baby talk. Put yourself in the place of your opponent, and decide how you would feel about it ...


    Tryndey with the Teretsky Stream or not is still an unknown quantity and in no way interconnected with the operation in Syria
  36. Old26
    Old26 6 October 2015 10: 03 New
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    Quote: Engineer
    This is not good. It beats the reputation of the VKS and its pilots.

    And not only the videoconferencing, but also Russia

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Yes, Russia is acting impudently (maybe it’s bluffing somewhere) If we back off, they will immediately crush us ... Everyone is waiting for Putin’s mistake! Do not wait

    Defiantly does not mean that to violate the airspace of another state. We will not be crushed, but Russia can lose its image with the regularity of such violations. They will talk about pilots as stupid people who simply can’t even understand the equipment of their own aircraft and regularly lose their spatial orientation.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 6 October 2015 10: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      They will talk about pilots as stupid people who simply can’t even understand the equipment of their own aircraft and regularly lose their spatial orientation.

      And you did not think that this intentional violation was ....? And a warning to Russia! The East is a delicate matter and they respect strength and audacity ....
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  38. tommy717
    tommy717 6 October 2015 10: 14 New
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    Quote: Old26
    Quote: tommy717
    And if it’s just more convenient for us to turn around to bomb Isil? A plane is not a car. You need to understand. Well, let’s say to the Turks once again: “A mistake has come out”. Let them rub off. And with the Turkish stream it is similar and so Trindets. If they hadn’t hoped for him, they would have started the operation earlier.


    And if you need to turn around on a car, do you go to the oncoming lane and let the other drivers and traffic cops disappear? After all, are you eating?
    A “mistake” can happen once, twice, but if it becomes regular, then this is no longer a mistake, but a system, in this case a provocation against Turkey.
    And I'm afraid that with this option, we will probably have to wipe ourselves off. For by doing so we will give an occasion, to do the same with us.

    Similarly, a NATO aircraft is deployed over the Baltic, well, flew a hundred or two meters into the territory of the Kaliningrad region. so it is necessary to understand. The plane is not a car, let the Russians rub off.

    Or the Japanese, accidentally begin to turn around Sakhalin - you need to understand, the plane is not a car ... Let the Russians wipe themselves off at the same time. So what?

    Not reasoning - but baby talk. Put yourself in the place of your opponent, and decide how you would feel about it ...


    Tryndey with the Teretsky Stream or not is still an unknown quantity and in no way interconnected with the operation in Syria

    I agree! Lupanul rashly! They correctly say that the “OLD” horse does not spoil the furrow.
  39. Riv
    Riv 6 October 2015 10: 16 New
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    Well, why be indignant? Maybe the pilot wanted to go to the resort. Maybe he had a vacation. As a white man, he was going to make an appointment at the hotel and lie down on the beaches, and here they call him an ambassador to the Foreign Ministry. So what if he had air-to-air missiles on suspensions? Who is easy now? Not rubber bombs after all.
    Not good, comrades Turks. Not good...
  40. Dr dron
    Dr dron 6 October 2015 10: 17 New
    -1
    Che such low-chilled steels? Flew in, so it was necessary! They opened the air defense, now let the Turks do business and drag their patriots from place to place.
  41. Vladimir
    Vladimir 6 October 2015 10: 25 New
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    Quote: Alexander 3
    This is the hysteria of the NATO.

    It’s one thing when diplomats and journalists of every kind are worn out, and another thing when they activate air defense systems and fly fighter jets, although pilots are people too and may be mistaken, but attentiveness will not hurt.
  42. kotev19
    kotev19 6 October 2015 10: 54 New
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    Good proof that the Turks know perfectly WHERE THE BORDER WITH SYRIA PASSES! Otherwise, they used to fly into Syrian airspace hundreds of kilometers in depth with impunity !!! winked
  43. press officer
    press officer 6 October 2015 11: 01 New
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    Quote: jarome
    They will bring down the next time at the request of Washington ... We must be careful. Everything is surrounded there by NATO airbases, and we have the only aircraft carrier cruiser under repair.
    Extra reason for the stink.



    The reason is not superfluous! The fact is that Turkey spoke in favor of the Russians quickly dumping from Syria and not bombing anyone! And we did not obey! So they came up with "incident"! Ours and so every airplane is shown on TV for the whole world, where - when and how much they bomb, etc.! So to check whether we flew or not, it is easy to show as well! But the Turks do not have satellites? Well, like, prove flying? Not? Reminds someone ... what
  44. alicante11
    alicante11 6 October 2015 11: 14 New
    -1
    It’s necessary to bring down on amers, they are buggy over Syria. And from our GLONASS what to take, boots after all fly. That could not be corrected. So let the Turks make all claims against the Allies.
  45. Vlad2010_vlad
    Vlad2010_vlad 6 October 2015 12: 03 New
    -2
    Syria is a small country. Our aviation must unfold somewhere, there are no buoys in the sky, and no flags can be put. That is what NATO partners help. In general, the brakes were invented by cowards. And in our VKS there are no cowards.
  46. Engineer engineer
    Engineer engineer 6 October 2015 12: 11 New
    +1
    Guys! Or maybe Nata declare a no-fly zone an airspace of a sovereign state?
  47. roskot
    roskot 6 October 2015 12: 27 New
    -1
    What is the cheese boron. Well, flew to see how his wife on the beach in Turkey In the sun heats up.
    The soul hurts for the wife.
  48. Samarin
    Samarin 6 October 2015 12: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    Quote: siberko
    Well done our command, we must periodically press the tail of the Turks


    - Why?


    Because these are TURKS!
  49. Defense
    Defense 6 October 2015 13: 32 New
    -1
    Earlier, the Turkish Foreign Ministry reported that on Saturday, Turkish tracking equipment recorded a violation of airspace by a Russian military aircraft, which was proceeding from Syria towards the Yailadagi region of Hatay province.

    Saturday is October 3rd.

    Lead 24 ...

    TV channel “Russia 24” showed a meteorological forecast in which the weather in Syria was named favorable for bombing. The host of the forecast several times emphasized that the Russian military “very successfully” chose the time to start the bombing, and gave statistics on the climate in Syria. The plot aired on October 3.

    “According to experts, the time for her [military operation] in terms of weather has been chosen very well. October in Syria is generally a favorable month for flights. The average wind speed is 2-4 meters per second, according to the climate only once in October strong gusts of up to 15 meters can be observed here, and rains occur only once every ten days, and the most intense, up to 18 millimeters of precipitation, are usually observed in the north, where the operation of the Russian Air Force is taking place, ”the presenter said.

    She noted that this could not have a serious impact on the bombing: the Russian military favors temperature conditions, as well as the situation with clouds in the region.



    “It turns out that only sandstorms can complicate the performance of a combat mission by the Russian Air Force. A dusty suspension in the air scatters the laser beams that are used in some guidance systems, ”she continued, emphasizing at the same time that sand storms in Syria in October are not common.


    Probable results of the Syrian campaign
    However, according to the TV presenter, nature itself forces the Russian military in a hurry. In November, the Syrian sky will cloud. However, from the end of this week until mid-October, cloudy weather will remain, and such conditions, according to the presenter, “can be called ideal for performing sorties.”

    Russian military space forces began an operation against IS fighters in Syria on September 30. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, during this time, the Russian military destroyed warehouses, command posts and armored vehicles of the militants.


    http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/05/weatherinsyria/


    The Russian Su-30 fighter participating in the Russian military operation in Syria mistakenly violated Turkish airspace. The Russian Defense Ministry assured that the incident happened by mistake, due to inclement weather, and that the ministry has already taken measures to prevent this from happening again.


    I’m wondering, is Vesti 24 specially driven on our “snowstorm”?
    1. Scraptor
      Scraptor 6 October 2015 13: 40 New
      -1
      Well, there’s still a “corner” on the border, I could cut it off at a bend ... I’ve gone deeper than 2-5 km and this is seconds for an airplane. During this time, even air defense systems from the ground would not have managed to capture in Turkish airspace. And then if he had got into a Russian plane over Syria - it would have been a kirdyk to this air defense system, and not to him alone.
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 6 October 2015 18: 28 New
        -1
        For those who do not understand (if the minus is not from annoyance), then because of a simple span they shoot down only in their airspace. Happen that this air defense system as well as its command post will simply be taken out by the BR, and no Patriot will help. And no one cares whether or not NATO.
        Pakistani F-16s with MiG-23s in Afghanistan were still trying to butt (they better not even go out against the Su-30), and their president when the Skuds rained down on Mujahideen camps in Pakistan, he simply wrote letters to the UN regularly ....

        Ahead of events: if someone suddenly starts to groan that Russia will launch 3MB with such a missile strike, then the Turks or NATO will launch it, having shot down a Russian plane over Syria. what
  50. Gunther
    Gunther 6 October 2015 18: 47 New
    0
    Erdogan said that "Russia can lose a lot if lost such a friend like Turkey. "
    Well, with such a friend, there is no need for enemies - support for Tatar extremists in Crimea, "during the Chechen wars, militants prepared and" repaired "in Turkey, and the Turkish government knew about this ... (veksha50).
    Let such "friends" go through the woods ...
    And if Taner Baytok doesn’t lie, then the “friend” has about 100 missiles with nuclear warheads.