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Did this sign Carpenter?

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A strange document was sent to me. They say that it occasionally pops up in different parts of the Internet, but mostly on unimportant sites.


Did this sign Carpenter?


The document is weird. Of course, there is no need to talk about its 100% authenticity in the light of our drawing technologies. Although two times the documents on such forms had to be seen. One time script, one copy. I will say one thing - it looks like. And the signature and seal. But, again, it still does not say anything.

Essentially, the document (if it is one) can also say a couple of words, if we find fault with the wording.

"Due to the current political and economic situation between the DPR and the LPR." Strange, but seemingly no information about the special friction did not pass. Yes, since the victory at Debaltseve, the DPR began to establish something like customs posts at the border, it was. But the posts played the role of the filter rather than the customs. Perhaps something has changed.

Contraband ... Contraband was and is. I do not know how about the future, but what blooms with a double color is definitely. Smuggling fought. With varying degrees of success. And “Bes” fought, and “Thomas” fought, and “Batman”.

So, the prevention of contraband, due to which almost half of the population of border settlements lives, seems to be nothing more than a dream. But filling the budget at the expense of transit - quite to yourself. Although the Ukrainian transit is the same smuggling. But if they continue to carry, why not take advantage of it?

Although why is this tightening specifically to the DNR? What, the line Lysychansk - Novoidar completely blocked? Yes, I would not believe.

Moreover, that this can be smuggled from the DNI? And, most importantly, where? In Russia? Bredovato, in the DPR has its own border. You can try to twist schemes there. And the “wet” way was never canceled before winter.

Regulatory framework for charging. That is, if you want to enter the LC - pay. New nothing, last year had to pay from sector to sector. Especially if there is no protection from the "meeting" side. Whoever controlled a piece of land, he levied a fee. Especially with humanitarian workers. And not in money, of course. But they took everyone who could afford it.

Considering how much money is in circulation in the DPR, how many “on money” people can afford to pay for entry into the LPR, they can conclude that the fight against boredom at additional checkpoints is ensured. Because those who are really involved in smuggling decide everything in the upper echelons, and it is unlikely that ordinary customs officers will bother to bother to release them.

Passport control and migration cards. Well, it is, frankly, laughter through tears. Who saw what is the "passport" of the LC, he will understand me. There is nothing to control. The paperwork is highly conditional, especially since all normal people still prefer a Ukrainian (albeit expired) passport. This is at least some kind of document by which you can get to Russia. And with a piece of paper - alas. Exceptions, of course, happen, but it is exceptions.

The obvious stupidity of this "order" leaves no doubt about its fake. The essence of it is one, quite self-understood. Provocation. I do not think that Carpenter could afford to sign such nonsense. So it is unlikely that this “document” costs more than the paint and a couple of kilowatts of electricity spent on it.

However, if it appeared, it means that someone needs it. It's clear. To whom? Good question. For example, Mr. Viktor Tikhonov. But this is a separate topic.

So the sequel will follow, once this alignment has come out.
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  1. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 6 October 2015 14: 28
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    The document is weird. Talk about his xnumx% authenticity in the light of our drawing technologiesOf course not.
    The whole answer to the question about the authenticity of the document in the article itself. I think that there are no secrets in the document, and if it had actually been signed, they would have spoken about this officially. And so ... Photoshop also happens in Ukrainian. And in Russian they are no worse than us ...
    1. Belopolyak
      Belopolyak 6 October 2015 18: 58
      +4
      It has been written there since August ... isn’t it? Linden definitely. Will we discuss every throw-in here?
    2. Sam_gosling
      Sam_gosling 7 October 2015 19: 13
      +1
      Those. about the eternal war between Akhmetov and Efremov (read the Donetsk-Makeevka organized crime group and Lugansk) no one knows at all? Well, you guys are clowned.
      This kind of thing doesn’t bother you:
      Igor Plotnitsky was the official of the regional administration, oversaw the markets, became the "Popularly elected head."
      Manolis Pilavov was Vice-Mayor of Lugansk became the "People's Mayor of Lugansk."
      Leonid Pasechnik was the Head of the Department for Combating Smuggling of the USB became the Minister of State Security.
  2. Good me
    Good me 6 October 2015 14: 30
    +9
    Studying, you novel, journalism, and studying ...

    Well, here's what that phrase means:
    Good question. For example, Mr. Viktor Tikhonov. But this is a separate issue.


    Who is this "Mr. Viktor Tikhonov"? You didn’t even mention it in the article ...
    Of course, you thought something, planned it ... But for the reader, this name does not say anything yet.

    Who is that? And how is it related to the subject of the article?

    He who ? Photoshop specialist suspected of falsifying a document?
    1. Alexkorzun
      Alexkorzun 6 October 2015 15: 57
      +1
      Studying, you novel, journalism, and studying ...


      Roman, of course, needs to study journalism. I agree.
      But you, colleague, learn the Russian language.
      The word "learn" in your accepted phrase is written with a soft sign. It is easy to check: "What to do - learn."
      1. am808s
        am808s 6 October 2015 17: 21
        +2
        And how do you know Alexei? What do you teach Russian in Libya?
        1. Alexkorzun
          Alexkorzun 6 October 2015 20: 13
          0
          and I, darling, studied at school, an ordinary Soviet school.

          py. Sy. And Gaddafi's avatar is a tribute to the Leader of the Revolution
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 6 October 2015 19: 01
        +7
        Quote: Alexkorzun
        Roman, of course, needs to study journalism. I agree.
        But you, colleague, learn the Russian language.
        The word "learn" in your accepted phrase is written with a soft sign. It is easy to check: "What to do - learn."

        And now we are taught journalism in this way. Listen to the news - those who are younger than 30 - they don’t know how to speak correctly, not to write ...

        I apologize for offtopic, but traditionally from me when it comes to literacy. Moreover, we are talking about literacy and journalism. Probably, the "XNUMX-scorers" came to Channel One.
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      4. Good me
        Good me 6 October 2015 20: 35
        +6
        Quote: Alexkorzun
        Roman, of course, needs to study journalism. I agree.
        But you, colleague, learn the Russian language.
        The word "learn" in your accepted phrase is written with a soft sign. It is easy to check: "What to do - learn."

        The rebuke is accepted. I will teachЬXia, and correctЬXia.

        But, I want to note that from my personal, illiteracy, few people will feel bad.

        But the mistakes, or the incompetence of a journalist, carry an immeasurably greater threat.
        1. Alexkorzun
          Alexkorzun 7 October 2015 04: 47
          +1
          In general, I agree, there is no journalist from Skomorokhov. Enough, at most, for "reviews", which in fact is a copy-paste of the press with dubious comments.
          But, colleague, blaming someone for insufficient (in his case, journalistic) literacy, be on the lookout that any of your oversights, especially those similar to those criticized, will be immediately used in the worst case scenario for you.
  3. SALLAK
    SALLAK 6 October 2015 14: 32
    +5
    In Photoshop, you can’t draw anything like that ... So judging by the subject of the document, linden is ...
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 6 October 2015 18: 08
      +1
      And it’s not a fact that a linden… maybe such an easy throw-in… check the reaction, then divide the spheres of influence? And who will prove to me that Plotnitsky is a crystal honest man? And who can say that he is in no way tied to the rich from Moscow? Equally, all the same applies to Zakharchenko ... and what secret games are being played on the Novorossiya project, one can only guess ... or wait ...
  4. Sauron80
    Sauron80 6 October 2015 14: 34
    0
    Another undercover fuss in "Novorossiya", we are waiting for someone else to "clean up". This whole situation with the "people's" republics smells worse and worse.
    I’m wondering, our first persons in the last official comments always mentioned the republics only as part of Ukraine, in one or another status, but IN COMPOSITION! If, nevertheless, they now turn on the back about independence and hold elections according to Ukrainian laws and agree to one degree or another of autonomy within Ukraine, in exchange for recognition of the Crimea (what one Frau hinted at), how will the population react to this? )))
  5. Peterhof 73
    Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 14: 45
    +1
    Some kind of muddy is Plotnitsky. I did not like his face right away.
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    2. Good me
      Good me 6 October 2015 14: 48
      +4
      Quote: Petergofsky73
      Some kind of muddy is Plotnitsky. I did not like his face right away.

      From the face, do not drink water. Or else: They are met by clothes, and escorted by the mind ...
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 15: 43
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        Well, I tried to joke about the famous phrase about a taxi driver from the movie "Gentlemen of Fortune"
        Quote: Good I
        Quote: Petergofsky73
        Some kind of muddy is Plotnitsky. I did not like his face right away.

        From the face, do not drink water. Or else: They are met by clothes, and escorted by the mind ...
  6. Flinky
    Flinky 6 October 2015 14: 49
    +6
    The article, frankly, is about nothing. Longing for unfulfilled illusions, or something.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 15: 01
      +8
      Quote: Flinky
      The article, frankly, is about nothing.

      Yeah. A claim for conspiracy intrigue? "Yesterday, on the cemetery fence, which has long been loved by crows and Ukrainian spies who use its bricks for undercover bookmarks, the inscription" Plotnitsky - ka3el! "Appeared. svidomita ... "
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 6 October 2015 15: 05
    +3
    In a healthy organism, any function is a cascade of coordinated actions. Squeeze your hand into a fist - involved from the muscles of the toes to the muscles of the face, in varying degrees of activity. If conduction is impaired in the brain or spinal cord, or on the periphery, or the feedback movement / function is obtained as inconsistent, while the function of the structures that have fallen out of control is taken over by others with great tension and the movement / function may turn out to be suboptimal. Loss of the immune system at the "local" or systemic general level, threatens with serious illness or death of the whole organism. And when the body begins to develop immunity against its own cells, the entire body can suffer.
    A benign tumor can be present for many years, the body creates a protective barrier around it, and only when the tumor growth begins to irritate the surrounding tissues, a person goes to the doctors, the operation cures, if not a very neglected case.
    A malignant tumor in itself can be small and bother the body, which creates a barrier around it. A malignant tumor has proteins due to which it overcomes the barrier, enters the vascular bed, travels, adheres to the wall inside the vessel, eats it up and the growth of the secondary focus begins.
    Metastases are always angrier than the primary focus and prone to more rapid growth.
    So it is in the state. The LPR and the DPR have not yet fully formed as states, but what happens to these newborns there? request
    1. Good me
      Good me 6 October 2015 15: 14
      +3
      Quote: Balu
      The LPR and the DPR have not yet fully formed as states, but what happens to these newborns there?

      Something is happening. Perhaps "growing pains", perhaps an infection artificially grafted from the outside ...

      But these questions, such articles based on the materials of "insignificant sites", cannot answer in any way.

      For, apparently, they are based on a muddy "throw-in" with its subsequent "authoritative" analysis ...
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 15: 18
      -1
      Quote: Balu
      In a healthy body, any function is a cascade of coordinated actions. Squeeze ...

      horseradish laughing Why not parallel with leprosy? Microbiologists, I wonder if there is a site? They, too, lively allegories are obtained.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 6 October 2015 15: 44
        +1
        Why not parallel with leprosy? Microbiologists, I wonder if there is a site? They, too, lively allegories are obtained.
        Dear Das Boot, your remark is off topic.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 6 October 2015 16: 09
          -1
          Quote: Balu
          Dear Das Boot, your remark is off topic.

          and your commentary on the oncological romance, so, in the subject? laughing Hitchcock-style - they pumped-pumped about a malignant tumor and suddenly
          Quote: Balu
          So it is in the state. LPR and DPR have not yet formed as states

          what's the connection
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 6 October 2015 16: 17
            +1
            Dear Das Boot, your remark is off topic.

            I'm not a romantic, I'm a realist. In what happens in the unrecognized republics, it seems to me that you need to be sensitive in evaluating events from a sofa located many thousands of kilometers away. I made a suitable comparison as best I could. I hope that I have not offended anyone.
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 6 October 2015 17: 00
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            what's the connection
            Dear Das Boot, I explain. A living person is a conceptually "biological machine" organized and controlled on the principle of feedback.
            It repairs itself, builds. It controls itself, moves, etc. Comparing the state with a person seemed appropriate to me, and your humor was frivolous. hi
  8. Lecha57
    Lecha57 6 October 2015 15: 26
    +2
    Another stuffing of Ukrainian propaganda.
    1. Good me
      Good me 6 October 2015 15: 38
      0
      Quote: Lecha57
      Another stuffing of Ukrainian propaganda.

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  10. KGB WATCH YOU
    KGB WATCH YOU 6 October 2015 16: 54
    +1
    To everyone *** that this worthless puppet signs. We all know perfectly well that the leaders of the "people's republics" will sign any document without a twinge of conscience.
  11. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 17: 00
    +2
    Quote: Balu
    Dear Das Boot, your remark is off topic.

    I'm not a romantic, I'm a realist. In what happens in the unrecognized republics, it seems to me that you need to be sensitive in evaluating events from a sofa located many thousands of kilometers away. I made a suitable comparison as best I could. I hope that I have not offended anyone.

    I agree with Balu 100000 times. Commenting on one of the articles (then I can find it for sure), Elena Gromova also chose the medical terminology - childhood diseases. Let's hope that the terms are correct. In the article about Poland today, one right friend gave an example of a substitution of concepts, I like since I added something on this topic, I also wrote on this topic before. We all should not fall into this built trap.
  12. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 17: 30
    +1
    I add to the previous one - article 17.09 "Novorossiya ....." Comments by Elena Gromova.
  13. todaygoodday
    todaygoodday 6 October 2015 18: 40
    -5
    There is nothing special about it, it is likely that the real one.
    Not yet signed. Enough to take Minsk.
  14. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 6 October 2015 19: 12
    +7
    A strange document was sent to me.
    Outgoing - 10.07.15/15/6.10.15. The deadline is XNUMX days and is valid from August. Today is XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. So what? On the border - like in paper? And what does the LPR administration say?
  15. Felix1
    Felix1 6 October 2015 21: 06
    -2
    what difference did he sign or not if all of his signatures are not worth a penny? what they say from the top, then signs.
  16. VadimSt
    VadimSt 6 October 2015 21: 25
    +2
    Unlike real journalism, all sorts of rumors, peeping, eavesdropping, dissemination of unverified information and other digging in "dirty linen" is inherent exclusively in the "yellow press". Is it worth clogging up VO with unverified information and one-sided, biased journalistic investigations!
    If you have undertaken, bring to a logical and objective conclusion with exhaustive comments from the authorities responsible for this!
  17. spiolist pas harp
    spiolist pas harp 7 October 2015 02: 47
    +1
    I have not heard about the "document" of our chapter (as well as about many others, I confess - not very interesting).
    Document almost well fitted under our existing realities:
    1. Roadblocks in large numbers are located not only between the DPR and LPR, but also between cities within the republics. Does it scare you? I am not afraid of random passport checks in Russia. request
    2. I have not heard about the "tariff scale". Residents travel for free, as do private entrepreneurs. The only ones who complained about the "bribe" were the carriers of goods from Ukraine. Familiar businessmen (our residence permit, but most of the time they live in Ukraine) did not complain when transporting goods for "levies" at LPR / DPR checkpoints. No.
    3. Passport control at checkpoints “Why then are the roadblocks at all necessary?”
    Migration cards -- What what?... belay At least show how they look.
    15 days -- lol Laughed, thanks.
    hi