Interview with ex-Syrian Air Force officer. The first. Were there Israeli F-15, is there any C-300 at the air base and other

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As promised, after 4, I publish the first part of an interview with a former officer of the Syrian Air Force. He is now on a well-deserved military pension, after an almost fatal injury, Jamal lives near the Khmeimim airbase, where the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces are based. By coincidence, he knows a lot about the events that take place around the airbase.



In bold I highlight my questions, plain text - answers to Jamal.

Jamal, hello, I am very glad that we managed to get in touch with you, the situation that is developing in Syria is very interesting, and maybe this is the end of the war?

Hello, yes, I am also glad, even probably more that the Russian brothers came to the rescue, I am very sorry that I could not make war with the Russian aces.

I do not know about the interestingness, but the fact that the people again believed in the victory, the army believed in the victory over the ISIS terrorists, I can guarantee it.

Tell me please, what do you know about the events of the preparation of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria?

I know everything, at that time I was still in the ranks. After that a terrorist attack was committed to the post where I had come for random reasons. And now I'm in a wheelchair. But I am a pilot, and I was not stunned in the sky.

Russia began to transfer equipment to Latakia long before 29 September. The first cars for airport security came back in mid-August. These were armor, armored personnel carrier, lynx. Then the crews came, the EW and other equipment were transferred. The Russian army did not participate in the battles. All this speculation. The entire contingent of the Russian Federation was deployed solely to ensure the safety of the airbase. But I must confess that Russia lent some equipment to oust the militants from the surrounding areas. Now the airbase is very seriously defended, there are also RSZO, EW machines, and air defense systems of the near and medium range.

Is there a C-300 or perhaps a C-400?

No, I personally did not see these systems. Perhaps they are, but were delivered after me.

In some Arab blogs I read that Russia liquidated the leader of the Army of Islam, do you know anything about this?

No, for the first time I hear. I think if it were true, I would know for sure, and the Syrian media would have written. But about this was not a word.

Thank you, you dispel some informational stuffing. What about the battle of Russian fighters with Israeli F-15 on the night of 1 on October 2?

It was. There was a violation of airspace by Israeli F-15 fighters. The Israelis feel in the sky of Syria as the masters, I tell you this as a former pilot of the Syrian Air Force. It was terribly annoying. But we could not do anything, Syria has no long-range air defense, and Israel avoided the protected areas.

What did they do in Syria that night?

I can’t answer this question exactly, maybe they did reconnaissance and found out the degree of security of the Khmeimim air base. The fact that they were moving towards Latakia is for sure. But why? The only thing I can say for sure, as soon as they crossed the Syrian border, Russian Su-30 fighters were lifted into the air. After which all of Israel aviation went abruptly west to the sea and, turning, south.

Was there any fight? I mean, did the Su-30 take the F-15?

No, Su-30 was still far away. Most likely, the Russian fleet contacted the F-15 pilots and reported the Su-30 raised into the air. After all, the whole area is now covered by the Russian Navy.

And the last question today, literally this afternoon, was a message from the militants that they launched an attack on the airbase, where Russian forces are based, was there really such an attempt?

Haha Well, as you say. Yes and no. You know, they drove a jeep with missiles, even three of them were destroyed. They drove them, put them at such a distance, so that the Russians could not get it. Imagine, there the airbase is covered with artillery and powerful systems of the MLRS, not the kind of nonsense that the militants are standing on in jeeps. If they had done it within reach, they would have been covered right away. No, they shot towards the airbase, but from such a distance that even if Allah helped them, the missiles would still not have flown. But Allah helps Assad. As soon as they made a launch, they were noticed by the nearest Syrian roadblock, and they were destroyed by artillery strikes by the Syrian army. That's the whole story.

Thank you, Jamal, I hope we will continue the practice of discussion. News from Syria, because the media and blogs now have a lot of stuffing information, which unfortunately cannot be verified.

We'll talk, brother.

Recorded October 3.
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  1. +68
    6 October 2015 14: 10
    Well done guys, bravo Shoigu, most importantly, do not drag us into the second Afghanistan, but clean Syria. So we get a reliable ally for many decades.
    1. +29
      6 October 2015 14: 17
      I can’t answer this question exactly, maybe

      The article is not bad .. We already know that! Russia has every right to behave like that ... Now they will wake up from shock, they need another powerful blow ... And it will be! It must be obligatory ... otherwise it does not fit! hi
      1. 0
        8 October 2015 10: 50
        Oh, how right you were)
      2. -2
        9 October 2015 11: 20
        Again, he knows everything, he broadcasts for Russia, who will wake up from there ... You'd better buy a native speech for 6-7 classes. You write in the General Staff, about a powerful blow. Bonaparte on the pot.
    2. +153
      6 October 2015 14: 37
      Of course, I wildly apologize, but there was nothing bad, much less disastrous from a military point of view, in Afghanistan. Times are like this.
      If you’re not ready to pay a little blood at distant frontiers, then you will pour a lot of it at home.
      We put ~ 15 of our guys and sent from 000 to 1 million spirits to heaven. And when they left, let alone abandoned Najibula, having stopped the supply of weapons and fuel and lubricants, they received flaming Central Asia, the Caucasus, and explosions in Moscow. About drugs so just modestly silent.
      1. +1
        6 October 2015 14: 43
        Quote: Andru
        Of course, I wildly apologize, but there was nothing bad, much less disastrous from a military point of view, in Afghanistan

        This is not the point, while there was a limited contingent, everything was more or less, but the army left and after three years the status quo was restored, Hafiz Assad could somehow control the territory of Syria, his son didn’t succeed, and here they also threaten Iraq
        1. +30
          6 October 2015 15: 06
          Hafiz al-Assad was never pro-Soviet. He followed tactics both ours and yours. And the United States, and especially the entire collective west, never set the goal of overthrowing Hafiz al-Assad.
          And Bashar al-Assad would have done a great job, too, had he not been caught up in the "Arab Spring". When all the national secular-modernist regimes in the Middle East turned out to be "shaking hands".
      2. +7
        6 October 2015 14: 57
        Kamrad, do not pay attention, just the young man who wrote the first post, had heard enough of the liberals.
      3. +17
        6 October 2015 16: 44
        We put ~ 15 of our guys and sent from 000 to 1 million spirits to heaven.


        Well, well. So how many spirits were there if every tenth inhabitant of the country was put? Bad and bad? I don’t know, I’m still wondering why we went there. Build socialism in the DRA? Many people who had the courage to have their own opinion believed that a rash step was taken, and then they tried to save face for as long as possible. This was the opinion of both senior and junior officers, and civilians, all but soldiers. For we fought the Afghan war with children who really had no opinion whatsoever, except for the girls. Personally, I then shaved once every four days without violating the charter. Is it good or bad? I would like to ask this question stripes, but not today, but in the 83rd year.

        They left and threw, you say, only now we need to clarify what we first picked up and what we threw. And we found a medieval country in which there was one Boer rifle for a village, a clan division of the country, several political forces competing with each other for hundreds of years. We managed not to support any, but to create our own, "socialist" one and unite the whole country against ourselves. That showed the intensity of b / d each year of stay. We left the country, with hundreds of armed groups armed with modern weapons, like a woken up wasp hive. How many of our children had to be killed in order to continue fighting at an increasing intensity? It was from there that weapons came to Central Asia and, possibly, the fuse of the collapse of the USSR caught fire, for such a thoughtless and irresponsible war must still be looked for. A deep bow to the commanders, who in their places, even at the cost of their lives, took care of the soldiers, and to various commissions in stripes they arranged "Potemkin" lightning, after which they quickly dumped and awarded themselves with military orders in Moscow.

        No need to blame the mirror, the courage of our soldiers, the responsibility of the commanders, the greasy carcass of the Politburo just smeared the mud and then brought the country to collapse. The war in Afghanistan gave nothing but grief for the mothers, the embittered military for their leadership and the weakening of the country. This leadership has made a fictitious threat real, arming and burning the whole region.

        And today I can clearly see how responsibly they are now approaching the military presence in Syria. Not without taking into account the Afghan experience.
        1. +7
          6 October 2015 18: 41
          Dear, you think others are idiots. And just sculpt about it here. In particular about the Politburo. In exactly the same way, many liberals, such as skinny Makarevichs and fat writers giggling like Shendera, are rassing now. And why do you not pay attention to those who know much more than you in this matter. And he declares that everything that we have now would have been with us much earlier. And in a much more terrible version. Or do you believe in the honor and conscience of "democratic" and "civilized" countries like the United States and Great Britain?
          1. +11
            6 October 2015 19: 11
            This is exactly how many liberalists are now desolating, such as thin Makarevichs and fatty giggling Shenderovsky writers.


            You know what, your liberals and other Shenderovichs are a miserable bunch. If they had not been mentioned, then no one would have known what it is. Much worse, this is his own dur-ak, who is pressed to his heart, even if he burned the hut. In the 91st year in the Politburo there was not a single Shenderovich and not a single Makarevich. If the ship crashed on the rocks, the captain is to blame, not the young, who did not properly bother the pan. So I don’t even need to know anything, it all went on my back. My calluses and the three-tier shkonku hospital in Tashkent, injections of five Soviet rubles and doxycycline Hungarian, for twenty-five rubles. And before the eyes the stumps were rotting among the nineteen-year-old boys, who knew less than the Politburo, who sent them to die, and those who could not die immediately, in the trash. Monuments for our soldiers' money and bribes to your officials, for a place under the monument. Damn, do not get angry better ....
            1. +18
              6 October 2015 22: 53
              You are mistaken Asadullah! Just at the time that you mention, the Politburo had too many Makarevichs and Shenderovichs and all kinds of trash, which led the Politburo and the USSR to a great defeat.
              1. +1
                7 October 2015 13: 02
                Quote: Starik72
                You are mistaken Asadullah! Just at the time that you mention, the Politburo had too many Makarevichs and Shenderovichs and all kinds of trash, which led the Politburo and the USSR to a great defeat.

                Oh how! The state was good, only its governance was such ... well, bad ... So the state is there, this is management (political bureau of all Russia). Maybe you have mixed up the state with the country?
            2. +2
              7 October 2015 00: 02
              The first time here I meet such a balanced, imaginative and capacious characterization of the events of those years. Hats off, as they say.
            3. +2
              7 October 2015 21: 47
              Forgive me for interfering with Asadullah, you are a hero and worthy of respect and all military honors, but you are now arguing as collective farmers about flights to Mars and cybernetics. There are a lot of dead, a lot of grief, invalids (he drank, then he studied in the 10th, in the dressing room of the school with an Afghan guard without a leg in the year 93rd). But the significance of the entry of troops and 10 years of calm in the USSR is perhaps worth it. As for the weapons - it was not the USSR that armed them, in most cases they received weapons from the amers - it was their revenge for Vietnam. What do we really know in this big game of politicians and countries about geopolitics within the entire globe? But even shouted about Chechnya and even about Leningrad, some say why stupidly did not leave the enemies? But nobody wants to go into the final goals and objectives, the big picture.
            4. +5
              8 October 2015 11: 48
              Ask these questions to Gorbatom, and do not discount the victims. In my village there are many who fought in Afghanistan, and not from one I have not heard such snot as from you. Even now, when I communicate with them, they all unanimously say that when we were there children from drugs and overdoses did not die, now we are not there, the country turned into a drug nursery. It is better to turn to Akhedzhakova.
          2. +5
            6 October 2015 23: 58
            Asadullah correctly described everything. It is likely that you have a poor idea of ​​what the Politburo of that time was and what motives it was guided by when making decisions.
        2. 0
          6 October 2015 23: 33
          Quote: Asadullah
          It was from there that weapons arrived in Central Asia and the wick of the collapse of the USSR may have caught fire


          And not vice versa? EMNIP, Rashidov then delivered weapons to the Mujahideen!
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        4. +11
          7 October 2015 11: 51
          taken from goblin

          Who Fought Successfully in Afghanistan? Yes, everyone who was not lazy. For example, "Uzbek" Babur. Babur was attacked by evil Tatars from the Volga region (aha, our Tatars are like that) and, under the leadership of Sheibani Khan, they pushed him out of the Fergana Valley (yes, our Tatars will get wherever they want and sprinkle everyone they can reach). Babur marched through Afghanistan with fire and sword, killed everyone and slaughtered everyone. But since there is nothing in Afghanistan, he left for India, where he organized the Mughal dynasty. Of course, the Afghans are firmly convinced that it was they who defeated and drove Babur away.

          And here was another incident - in 1878, the second Afghan war began, which was fought by the British. To begin with, subjects of the British Empire sent a note to the then ruler of Afghanistan, Sherali, in which they said that they did not like his pro-Russian position. Please note: the British. Where is Britain, and where is Afghanistan? Is it all the same to the British, with whom the primitive Afghans are friends? It turns out that it’s all the same, they care about everything, and the British do not like the pro-Russian sentiments in Afghanistan. And the United States needs Afghanistan, and now there are US troops. And only to idiots from among the Soviet intellectuals and their children, it does not matter who stands near our borders.

          The question for the British was extremely worrying, because the occupied by them India bordered on Afghanistan. And they demanded from Sherall real action to withdraw from Russia. Sherali ignored the letter, and then from the territory of neighboring India (now Pakistan), the British armed forces advanced in three columns. As usual, the Afghan resistance was utterly defeated, all the passes needed by the British were captured, and a peace treaty was signed under the threat of reprisal.

          The following year, brave Afghans killed a British resident, after which the troops descended from the mountains and took Kabul, which until then was not particularly needed by anyone. Then a hundred thousandth Afghan army was defeated in an open field. Then there was the battle of Maiwanda, followed by the battle of Kandahar. Yes, sometimes the British also suffered, and there were losses - where would they be without in the war. But in all cases, it was a specific massacre; Afghans were invariably beaten.

          In 1881, after sitting down to steer the puppet government pursuing British policy, the British military left Afghanistan. I emphasize in red - they left. No defeat, no retreat. They won and left, because there was nothing more to do there. I repeat for fools: the withdrawal of troops is not a defeat in the war. Naturally, after their departure, the Afghans were firmly convinced that everyone had been defeated and severely expelled. In short, as in that joke about Elusive Joe: what, really, nobody can catch him? No, it's just that nobody needs him.
        5. +22
          7 October 2015 11: 51
          And already in 1885, Russian troops invaded Afghanistan, for Russia had (and still has) no less interests in neighboring Afghanistan than Britain. The conflict happened no worse than the Caribbean crisis, so everything was not easy. But this is a different story.

          And then Mr. Churchill also visited Afghanistan - as a war correspondent with the expeditionary forces, about which he wrote an interesting book, “The Tale of the Malakand Field Army, 1890. Episode of Frontier War. " During the campaign, the 24th company of the Punjabi infantry regiment was especially distinguished, in bayonet attacks it carried out sweeps of Afghan markets, with a total cut-out of all those who were not satisfied. Mr. Churchill wrote a lot of interesting things, I recommend it.

          And what about the Soviet Union, the children of perestroika will ask? I answer: The Soviet Union is a country no worse than others. When needed, he entered Afghanistan and fought there beautifully. It was a typical colonial war, the last colonial war of the twentieth century. How did the Soviet military show themselves in the Afghan war? The Soviet military proved to be extremely competent professionals.

          As you know, defeating the Soviet Union by force of arms was impossible, no matter how hard they tried. To citizens whose brain is filled with shit about the "bloody massacre", I inform you: the war in Afghanistan lasted nine years. Total losses:

          1979 - 86 people
          1980 - 1484 people
          1981 - 1298 people
          1982 - 1948 people
          1983 - 1446 people
          1984 - 2346 people
          1985 - 1868 people
          1986 - 1333 people
          1987 - 1215 people
          1988 - 759 people
          1989 - 53 people
          In total, the Soviet army, which was conducting active hostilities on foreign territory in the mountains, lost an average of 1668 people a year. Losses of the enemy over the same time amounted to, which is characteristic, somewhat more - they say that a million. Purely for your information: more than 35.000 people die every year in road traffic accidents in Russia. Another 80.000 a year goes missing. What can I say - in Russia there are more drunken people drowning in a year than they died in that war in nine years.
          1. +3
            7 October 2015 12: 41
            Quote: Dimas54
            What can I say - in Russia there are more drunk people drowning in a year than they died in that war in nine years.

            That's right, the only thing you do not take into account is what is drunk for the economy and demography of the country, and what is young, strong and healthy.
        6. +31
          7 October 2015 11: 53
          For comparison: in the first seven months of 2005, the non-military losses of the army of democratic Russia, which is not at war with anyone, amounted to 561 people who died. The most common reason is suicide. And no war for you.

          Yes, it was a real war. Yes, our soldiers died there. However, there was no "bloody massacre" there. More precisely - it was, but not for us.


          What is characteristic, in Afghanistan they fought not quite with the Afghans. Pakistan actively acted against us, on whose territory Dushman bases were located. The United States acted no less actively against us, which financed and supplied the enemy through Pakistan. For example, Osama bin Laden was raised with his own money. Communist China helped with arms. Italians delivered mines. Only Soviet intellectuals, as usual, scratched their tongues about the meaninglessness of everything that was happening.

          It seems to many that the war in Afghanistan was "meaningless." Say, we attacked them and it is not clear what they were doing there. In the absence of understanding, it is recommended to take a closer look at what is happening now in Tajikistan and Chechnya with the active help of comrades from the West. And to think about what is better: when the native army defends the Motherland with little blood and on a foreign land, or when gangs of freaks capture theaters, maternity hospitals and schools.

          The reason for leaving is not military defeat. There was no defeat. The reason for leaving was purely ideological - the presence of a spotted communist in power. Alas, the ideologists at that time were complete idiots - from among those who were expelled for poor progress in combat training. There were no ideological tasks in Afghanistan. Collective farms were not built there, Soviet power was not established. The army carried out its tasks successfully, and the rest ... The rest does not concern the army.

          Why is war necessary at all? Each serious power has its own interest. The superpower, which was the Soviet Union, had an even more serious interest. War for a state is like an exercise with a barbell. He came up, took, pulled, picked up. Or could not lift. A power only then becomes a power when it decisively imposes its will on others, less powerful. Which are not even suitable for the bar. You are strong - and they reckon with you. You are weak - and your feet are being wiped about you.

          What are the usual goals of war? The war is needed in order to seize and occupy the territory, after which the population is either assimilated, or as it is customary for many to be cut out. In Afghanistan, there was nothing like this: the population was not assimilated, the territory was controlled only where it was needed. Primitive, I repeat, nobody needs. And nobody also needs their caves.

          When the command arrived, the Soviet army left. The safety of the retreat of the Soviet army was provided by the most authoritative citizens from among the local residents. I repeat for the especially developed: the withdrawal of troops is not a defeat. Which, of course, does not prevent the Afghans from believing that they again defeated everyone. Well, to our homegrown idiots, too.

          The Soviet Union went to the bar, took it off the rack, and lifted it. And then he carefully laid it back on the flyer. To if that - raise one more time.
          1. +1
            7 October 2015 17: 06
            I support the post, I myself wrote about this somehow, but not so extensively.
          2. +6
            7 October 2015 17: 21
            I respect Very figurative, capacious, not without irony, and, characteristically, a fairly accurate display of events of the time the troops entered the DRA. As for Syria, time will tell. So far, everything seems to be going according to plan ...
          3. +2
            7 October 2015 23: 51
            So this is not about military defeat! Asadullah does not write about this.
            By and large, we are talking about the inconsistency of ideas about the structure of the world (for the then leader of the country) to the actual picture. Hence the formulation of an unrealistic task for the 40th Army, which had no solution in this form. Military, at least - not one of the conditions for a successful counter-guerrilla war was fulfilled! It is a fact! And, most likely, it would never have been carried out without appropriate sensible "political support", no matter how long the war lasted. In this light, how to talk about losses? On the one hand, there are soldiers and officers who honestly fulfilled their duty, on the other, the elders from the Politburo, "who sent them to their death with an unwavering hand" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy9hxpuL0Oc)
            And with the Goblin - be careful - not everything is as smooth as he tells. I love to listen to him. But, you need to consider that he often does not bother with objective coverage of events.
          4. +4
            8 October 2015 01: 49
            The Soviet army was imprisoned for large-scale operations on long fronts and in Afghanistan was in an unusual situation. Yes, and I think that in those days the psychology of the Second World War (when victories did not stand at the price) still reigned in the minds of many generals and met even up to the Chechen wars, and even a little further. There was no careful planning of the operation in stages, the final goals were unclear.
            Any operation should be planned from the beginning to the very victorious end. Timing, funds, losses, risks. Everything should be calculated to the smallest detail. I think that the army today finally got rid of Soviet psychology and we see the real army of modern Russia. The thoughtful work of the General Staff and good organization on the ground are now visible. The equipment and training of troops is pleasing to the eye. And of course, the army has gained valuable experience in conducting local operations. I sincerely hope that this will continue. I hope that for 20 years it will become well-equipped, mobile and highly professional force.
          5. 0
            9 October 2015 05: 50
            Well written !!! I press five!
        7. +2
          8 October 2015 01: 14
          The whole problem was due to the lack of a clear task of entering the contingent. Any operation should be planned from the beginning to the very victorious end. Timing, funds, losses, risks. Everything should be calculated to the smallest detail. Now at least the thoughtful work of the General Staff can be traced and a good organization on the ground is visible. I sincerely hope that this will continue.
        8. +2
          8 October 2015 11: 39
          Quote: Asadullah
          . The war in Afghanistan gave nothing but grief for the mothers, the embittered military for their leadership and the weakening of the country.


          Wipe your eyes, analyte. When the Soviet troops were in Afghanistan, the Soviet people did not even know such a thing as drug addiction. Now the death toll from drug addiction goes to tens of thousands per year. In Afghanistan, losses per year did not exceed one and a half thousand. Compare and think. You are probably talking nonsense out of anger that you weren’t in the Politburo then? You would have turned around ....... all over Ivanovo. Eat less with your head, think more often, strategist ... indoor.
      4. -13
        6 October 2015 16: 54
        The guy is how old are you and I will remove all the questions for you.
      5. -15
        6 October 2015 20: 49
        Well, at first they stirred up the anthill, and then with "little blood" and billions of rubles they kept those who appeared there. You don't need to get carried away with geopolitics in those places where you don't understand too much. This applies not only to the Americans, but also to us.
      6. +10
        6 October 2015 22: 01
        Quote: Andru
        but there was nothing bad, much less disastrous from a military point of view, in Afghanistan.

        From a military point of view, no.
        Afghan was a complete failure of Soviet diplomacy.
      7. 0
        8 October 2015 03: 42
        I agree! Hold the plus!
    3. +14
      6 October 2015 17: 05
      Quote: Stranger03
      don't drag us into a second afghan

      What do you have against our presence in Afghanistan? We were in Afghanistan - it was calm on the border. We were in Afghanistan - there were no drugs (in such quantity). We left Afghanistan and now we have what we have!
      1. -7
        6 October 2015 18: 33
        Quote: Homo
        We left Afghanistan and now we have what we have!

        Well, yes ... that's right .... every year Afgan cost our mothers an average of 1400 killed and the intensity of the fighting increased. In what numbers would we be calculating losses now? I am not talking about the economy of the country that the war in Afghanistan ravaged. Before the troops entered Central Asia, "it was calm on the border .... there were no drugs (in that amount)." Or maybe you didn't need to go there?
        1. +14
          7 October 2015 15: 02
          Do not carry the bullshit boy.
          Russia is half the size of the USSR in terms of population. We have 8.000.000 drug addicts.
          MONTHLY dies about 5000 !!!! person. Total per year 60,000 !!!
          Now turn on your underdeveloped brain. And count.
          The population of the USSR is twice as large. Multiply by 9 years. In total, 60,000 * 2 * 9 = 1,080,000 people could die without military intervention from drugs alone. Which incidentally happened after the USSR withdrew troops from Afghanistan.
          And so the USSR lost only 16.000 people (almost 70 times less than the estimated losses). From accidents and drunk we lose more.
        2. +7
          7 October 2015 16: 21
          "For 12 years, the death rate from drugs in Russia has decreased to 90 thousand people a year, said the head of the Federal Drug Control Service, Viktor Ivanov." And it just dropped !!
          but it was up to 140 thousand !!
          That's all the benefits of control are visible.
          In "peacetime" we lose more than from war.
        3. MMX
          +1
          8 October 2015 19: 17
          Quote: veteran66
          Quote: Homo
          We left Afghanistan and now we have what we have!

          Well, yes ... that's right .... every year Afgan cost our mothers an average of 1400 killed and the intensity of the fighting increased. In what numbers would we be calculating losses now? I am not talking about the economy of the country that the war in Afghanistan ravaged. Before the troops entered Central Asia, "it was calm on the border .... there were no drugs (in that amount)." Or maybe you didn't need to go there?


          How much heroin was produced in Afghanistan when the USSR army was there? What time is it now? But you continue to think that not a single gram of this heroin enters the territory of the Russian Federation.
          About the number of drug addicts and their mortality per year, I no longer ask you because it is useless ...
    4. +4
      6 October 2015 20: 07
      Calm down already, in 10 years of Afghanistan, less than 16 thousand people from all over the USSR have died !, We have more than 2 died in the Chechen .... and if we don’t carry out operations on the ground by Russian troops, which will not happen, the losses will be like in exercises. ..
  2. +50
    6 October 2015 14: 17
    Now the Jews will run over again and say that C-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30, and the Syrian officer is lying, and that there is no need to read Soviet newspapers at breakfast wassat Professor, Atalef, Pimpled and others, where are you?
    1. +5
      6 October 2015 14: 19
      Quote: 0255
      Now the Jews will again attack and say that the S-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30 wassat

      Why the Jews .. died out there until they are touched by the "supermen" ..))))
      1. +7
        6 October 2015 14: 22
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Quote: 0255
        Now the Jews will again attack and say that the S-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30 wassat

        Why the Jews .. died out there until they are touched by the "supermen" ..))))

        They probably have depresnyak and mourning that the Russian Federation is bombing the Islamists they love, their grief is so great that they are not able to even scribble comments laughing
        1. +8
          6 October 2015 14: 40
          Quote: 0255
          They probably have depresnyak and mourning that the Russian Federation is bombing their favorite Islamists,

          Did you confuse anything about your favorite Islamists? Both religiously and ideologically they are on different sides. Israel's support for the Islamists raises a big question, the Jews, rather, for themselves, and not for Muslims of any kind. Specifically against Assad, because Hezbollah supports him. And Islamists, too, do not inspire love in I. Israel, which is more likely to support the war "to the last Syrian" to get its gesheft.
          1. +14
            6 October 2015 14: 53
            Quote: pilot8878
            Quote: 0255
            They probably have depresnyak and mourning that the Russian Federation is bombing their favorite Islamists,

            Have you confused anything about your favorite Islamists?

            Read the professor's comments about how "Assad will be fished out of the sewers and pulled up like Saddam and Gaddafi." Al-Nusra militants receive treatment in Israel
            Israel, which is more likely to support the war "to the last Syrian" to get its gesheft.

            Let them get and not war until the last Syrian with Gesheft
            1. 0
              6 October 2015 15: 09
              I did not see in your words arguments on the topic of love for Islamists. Or am I blind?
        2. +3
          6 October 2015 18: 44
          Well, why, after all, the heights of the Golan were fired at under the guise. They won’t miss theirs. They are born like that.
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      3. +35
        6 October 2015 14: 30
        Do not drive the Israeli military (especially pilots) - they are professionals who are worthy of respect and they do not pull on the losers. The fact that Israel defends its interests is the normal practice of a healthy state. The flight of Israeli tag into the Syrian sky for intelligence gathering is a common practice of any Air Force. There was no conflict - everyone understood each other perfectly. Well, housewives will always have something to talk about ...
        1. +11
          6 October 2015 14: 42
          Quote: lukke
          Do not drive the Israeli military (especially pilots) - they are professionals who are worthy of respect and they do not pull on the losers.

          I did not write that they are losers, I know that Israeli pilots know how to fight.
          Quote: lukke
          The fact that Israel defends its interests is the normal practice of a healthy state.

          Interests in protecting white, furry and moderate Islamists?
          Quote: lukke
          The flight of Israeli tag into the Syrian sky for intelligence gathering is a common practice of any Air Force. There was no conflict - everyone understood each other perfectly. Well, housewives will always have something to talk about ...

          Maybe they wanted to strike again at the Syrian military, as they like to do, but they got scared when they saw the Su-30 on the radar?
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        2. +20
          6 October 2015 14: 47
          common practice is intelligence gathering near the border of another state, and intelligence gathering inside sovereign territory is usually shot down
          1. +9
            6 October 2015 15: 13
            They feel the Syrian air defense not the first day. So there was 100% certainty that there was a gap in that place, or you wanted to see how the interaction of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Russian Navy and Syria goes. We looked, recorded, made conclusions.
      4. +10
        6 October 2015 16: 11
        Quote: MIKHAN

        Why the Jews .. died out there until they are touched by the "supermen" ..))))

        we learned a lot from the Chinese. feel
        1. +7
          6 October 2015 18: 07
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          we learned a lot from the Chinese.
          - Fine, it already causes at least some respect. smile This is no joke. Sit on the apple tree and watch the bear pick up the shaitan disguised as the Almighty, no need to interfere. Russia does not wish Israel any harm, but wets the ISIS militants, who will be worse than Hezbollah in the future, believe me.
        2. +4
          6 October 2015 20: 31
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: MIKHAN

          Why the Jews .. died out there until they are touched by the "supermen" ..))))

          we learned a lot from the Chinese. feel

          Bravo! and as Liao Zi wrote. If you sit on the riverbank for a long time, you will see the corpse of an enemy passing by laughing
          (or see your dead body passing by laughing laughing laughing , I do not remember exactly feel )
        3. +9
          6 October 2015 23: 36
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          we learned a lot from the Chinese.


          The terrible dream of Leonid Ilyich:
          The Chinese learned to fight like the Jews -
          and the Jews learned to breed like the Chinese! wink
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    2. +1
      6 October 2015 14: 21
      Kosher - yes, they won’t bring down. But where is the guarantee that there are kosher F-15s? smile
      1. 0
        6 October 2015 17: 46
        Incidentally, and circumcision fighters are not satisfied? :)
        1. 0
          6 October 2015 19: 32
          Quote: vladimir_krm
          Incidentally, and circumcision fighters are not satisfied? :)

          For them, Americans specially circumcised do laughing
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        1. -12
          6 October 2015 20: 17
          Quote: shans2
          terrorists will not understand the shit varieties - you will fly in the Syrian space in the zone of the Russian air defense - go to the grave ...

          On the first point, I agree 100%. And according to the second one, it’s possible to get into the mound.
          1. +6
            6 October 2015 23: 07
            And on the second, so you can get it in return. Aron Zaavi better shut up, Russia YOU are not Palestine or Syria. Egypt and Lebanon. And the US will not help.
          2. +3
            7 October 2015 01: 02
            On the first point, I agree 100%.

            only the Israeli authorities do not agree and therefore the militants of al-Nusra of the al-Qaeda branch are undergoing treatment in Israel.
          3. +3
            7 October 2015 10: 06
            On the first point, I agree 100%. And according to the second, it’s possible to get into the mound.
            Aron, just play in your sandbox and don’t meddle in ours. And everything will be fine.
          4. +1
            7 October 2015 13: 51
            Well, why didn’t they get it? Against four they raised only two SU-30s and so what? Quickly tick with a turn towards the sea and back to Israel.
          5. 0
            7 October 2015 21: 17
            As in an anecdote))) "You can, sir, and a reverse! But usually, I do it!" Do not go to our forest, adorable ...
      3. +1
        6 October 2015 23: 43
        Quote: satris
        where is the guarantee that there is kosher F-15?


        Caught by ours - become clubs! am
        (For reference: the main meaning of the word "trefnoye" is "non-kosher", but literally it means - "torn to pieces")
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      5. +1
        7 October 2015 13: 45
        Missiles on the SU-30 do not know that they are kosher, they do not care.
    3. +9
      6 October 2015 14: 29
      Quote: 0255
      Now the Jews will run over again and say that C-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30, and the Syrian officer is lying, and that there is no need to read Soviet newspapers at breakfast wassat Professor, Atalef, Pimpled and others, where are you?

      in addition to sarcasm, there was nothing to hear from them in the past, they were probably offended that they could not fly in the sky of Syria and shit Assad
      1. +11
        6 October 2015 14: 33
        Quote: Sterlya
        Quote: 0255
        Now the Jews will run over again and say that C-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30, and the Syrian officer is lying, and that there is no need to read Soviet newspapers at breakfast wassat Professor, Atalef, Pimpled and others, where are you?

        in addition to sarcasm, there was nothing to hear from them in the past, they were probably offended that they could not fly in the sky of Syria and shit Assad

        Quite possible. They used to love being proud in the comments of every Syrian air raid
        1. -48
          6 October 2015 16: 00
          Is this when most targets were caravans of weapons that went to terrorists from Syria to Lebanon?
          Or when in a nuclear reactor?
          Why be proud? What terrorists soaked? Well, this is a common thing.

          It’s like you are proud of the fact that Russia is wetting someone unclear, but on Russian channels that it doesn’t fly off, then it’s a bullseye - they have directly returned to Soviet propaganda.
          Now Russia has already quarreled with Turkey, with Qatar and the Saudis, which actually means that there will be terrorist attacks in Russia as there are enough Muslims crazy in Russia - it’s not for nothing that thousands are fighting for ISIS there, which means that they will now still take revenge on Russian territory .
          No, it’s not worth it to be afraid later, while the Syrian conflict distracts from the Ukrainian one, which has already reduced patriotism in Russia.
          But soon everything will be delayed and the Russian military will not do without ground operations, and there will already be real casualties.
          1. 740
            +1
            6 October 2015 16: 07
            Quote: Kolobok19
            on the other hand, through Russian channels, which did not fly off, then to the bull's-eye - they directly returned to Soviet propaganda.

            Come on, come on, come on, tell me more in detail about how the valiant Russian Air Force defending the peaceful existence of Israeli citizens hit somewhere, and not against the militants. sad
            1. +2
              6 October 2015 17: 30
              Quote: 740
              Come on, come on, come on, tell me more in detail about how the valiant Russian Air Force defending the peaceful existence of Israeli citizens hit somewhere, and not against the militants.

              who they are protecting, only not Israeli citizens, is protecting their interests by the Russian Federation and no more.
              1. 740
                +3
                6 October 2015 18: 27
                Quote: Longmire
                Quote: 740
                Come on, come on, come on, tell me more in detail about how the valiant Russian Air Force defending the peaceful existence of Israeli citizens hit somewhere, and not against the militants.

                who they are protecting, only not Israeli citizens, is protecting their interests by the Russian Federation and no more.

                Not true. Our country is now saving all the inhabitants of planet Earth from shaitans threatening to create a world caliphate.
                1. -9
                  6 October 2015 21: 00
                  Without Gundyaev, the picture would be better)
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          2. +27
            6 October 2015 17: 47
            How did these pi.da.go aching and moaning get it.
            And in Chechnya there was no need to crush terrorists and Nazi troops had to surrender now they would live in Germany and Bavarian sausages would crack with awesomely tasty beer.
            T-fu scum disgusting and disgusting, and as our land only produces a current vileness.
            1. +2
              6 October 2015 23: 14
              Victor, I agree with you, and I will add to your words: and how our land only breeds and carries such a vileness on the earth.
          3. +8
            6 October 2015 17: 55
            Well, you spoke so clearly about Russia and how she quarreled with someone. And that will be. Tell us why Assad quarreled with Erdogan? Let me remind you about what, in fact, I. Turkey and Syria were kissing themselves pretty hard. Of the real plans - a visa-free regime and a free economic zone. And what now is what? Whether or not someone will take revenge, this is a question for the special services. Yes, it is curious how the Ukrainian conflict lowered cheers-patriotism? Please provide temporal and quantitative characteristics, and not your significance. And I believe that there will be no need for a land operation. Let me remind you that there are enough infantry for both the Kurds and the Iranians.
          4. +1
            6 October 2015 18: 48
            Gingerbread man, in more detail about our land operations in Syria. Are you by any chance not a Bandera masked?
          5. +14
            6 October 2015 19: 15
            Quote: Kolobok19
            you seem to be proud of the fact that Russia is wetting someone unclear, but on Russian channels that it doesn’t fly, then it’s a bullseye - you’ve directly returned to Soviet propaganda.
            Now Russia has already quarreled with Turkey, with Qatar and the Saudis,

            So we are, in international isolation, and we do not care what kind of Qatar (translated from Tatar "will die" laughing ) and quarrel with the Saudis.
            We have such a big tooth for these jackals for Afghanistan and Chechnya, the oil conspiracy from the United States.
            Like they were our friends someday, bedding jackals
          6. 0
            6 October 2015 20: 14
            again, fairy tales about the "Syrian peaceful atom"?))), in the new version of the Bible, also write down a new one ?, as well as spizz ... e tales from the Sumerians, and the stolen history from them and the builders of the pyramids ?. your greatness and "goyah" around?)
          7. 0
            7 October 2015 21: 51
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Is this when most targets were caravans of weapons that went to terrorists from Syria to Lebanon?
            Or when in a nuclear reactor?
            Why be proud? What terrorists soaked? Well, this is a common thing.

            It’s like you are proud of the fact that Russia is wetting someone unclear, but on Russian channels that it doesn’t fly off, then it’s a bullseye - they have directly returned to Soviet propaganda.
            Now Russia has already quarreled with Turkey, with Qatar and the Saudis, which actually means that there will be terrorist attacks in Russia as there are enough Muslims crazy in Russia - it’s not for nothing that thousands are fighting for ISIS there, which means that they will now still take revenge on Russian territory .
            No, it’s not worth it to be afraid later, while the Syrian conflict distracts from the Ukrainian one, which has already reduced patriotism in Russia.
            But soon everything will be delayed and the Russian military will not do without ground operations, and there will already be real casualties.



            The Auschwitz also did not have to be freed, because there would have been losses in the Red Army, the real victim ...
      2. -23
        6 October 2015 17: 57
        Quote: Sterlya
        in addition to sarcasm, there was nothing to hear from them in the past, they were probably offended that they could not fly in the sky of Syria and shit Assad



        They are just writing the truth, which cheers the patriots do not like and who will immediately pass. Notice who gets the most pluses? Anyone who actively patriots cheers, and those who write something against the line of the party, immediately minus. What kind of democracy in Russia is like this here on the site, or rather its absence. The usual gagging.
        1. +16
          6 October 2015 19: 30
          Quote: Kolobok19
          They are just writing the truth, which cheers the patriots do not like and who will immediately pass. Notice who gets the most pluses? Anyone who actively patriots cheers, and those who write something against the line of the party, immediately minus. What kind of democracy in Russia is like this here on the site, or rather its absence. The usual gagging.

          I joke about the Jews when the opportunity laughing , With a bang of patriotism not thought out, there is of course no benefit. one harm.
          So, after all, they think differently. who is too young, who is feel
          But I still do not understand, What did the Israelis do in Georgia in 2008? And why did they leave from there in 2 weeks of the attack on Ossetia? They knew about the attack. Then why didn’t they attempt to prevent human casualties, plus they armed the trained Georgians. You do not think that we will forget it. And do not try to disown that money was made on blood, on the blood of Russians.
          1. -18
            6 October 2015 20: 05
            Sterlya, however, you reasonably argue, but what the Russians did in Egypt and Syria before the wars started, they made me try to prevent casualties, plus they armed and trained the Arabs. You do not think that we will forget it. And do not try to disown that money was made from blood, from the blood of Rosiyan, sorry Israelites.
            It seems that the text has not changed much, but how many minuses will it be now !!?
            1. +11
              6 October 2015 20: 24
              Quote: wanderer
              Sterlya, however, you reasonably argue, but what the Russians did in Egypt and Syria before the wars started, they made me try to prevent casualties, plus they armed and trained the Arabs. You do not think that we will forget it. And do not try to disown that money was made from blood, from the blood of Rosiyan, sorry Israelites.
              It seems that the text has not changed much, but how many minuses will it be now !!?

              Sorry, the USSR was hardly making money at the time. Rather, on the contrary, I spent. It was all about ideology and all sorts of nonsense. At least it justifies. (And in Georgia, you purely earned money, well, you didn’t instill democracy?) It’s like now the United States has planted “democracy” in Muslim countries, Very funny.
              Why then did the French and Britons climb against Egypt itself? Oh. You see, the Suez Canal was nationalized. So the Suez Canal doesn’t seem to be between France and Britain? Again, the USSR stood up for the truth.
              In short, the Naglosak people are used to living on marauding, and having stolen enough. hour act in the role of "exceptional", their entire economy is based on plundered and slave labor, millions killed.
              Indians only according to the latest data, 15 million lived in America, so the newly-minted "democrats" were paid for the scalps of the Indians. so shit with them.
              I mean that you should not be equal to the "exceptional" and arrogant.
              As you don’t lift your nose, you won’t pierce the sky.
            2. +2
              6 October 2015 23: 23
              Wanderer. It was in vain that YOU brought Moses out of the desert YOU Jews, but YOU would feed YOU in the desert of manna from heaven and would live there, and PEACE would not know grief.
            3. +8
              6 October 2015 23: 46
              Quote: wanderer
              You do not think that we will forget it.


              And how do you like? You do not think that we will forget - How Israel was created thanks to the USSR, but quickly moved over to the Yankees!
            4. 0
              6 October 2015 23: 46
              Quote: wanderer
              You do not think that we will forget it.


              And how do you like? You do not think that we will forget - How Israel was created thanks to the USSR, but quickly moved over to the Yankees!
            5. 0
              7 October 2015 20: 41
              My dear, where did you live in those years? I suspect, judging by the style of writing, in the USSR. ...
            6. 0
              12 October 2015 20: 21
              wanderer (1) IL

              And to you - dear, it’s a sin to stutter about blood money! Your clan has been doing just that, throughout its existence! You even built your own state 70 years ago on the blood of Palestinians, and you still pour blood on Palestine! Occupied the Palestinian lands and call them Israel! To this day and live!
        2. +4
          6 October 2015 20: 17
          democracy on the Echo of Mosca, so try there on the site where the pace in the comments to write adequately or object, giving arguments and facts, everything that you do not like is rubbed and banned right away)
          1. +1
            7 October 2015 20: 44
            Anyway, in Russia there’s a search for democracy. Two-thirds of television channels and radio stations are clearly anti-Russian or not. About the press - just keep quiet.
    4. +8
      6 October 2015 14: 33
      Quote: 0255
      Now the Jews will run over again and say that C-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30, and the Syrian officer is lying, and that there is no need to read Soviet newspapers at breakfast Professor, Atalef, Pimpled and others, where are you?

      Now they’ll announce, they will begin to lay out the comments on the lines.

      The howl will rise in the same tone as after "Donald Cook". It is interesting, but do they have their own diapers, Israeli, or are they combined arms of the American type, delivered with the F-15?
      1. +4
        6 October 2015 14: 44
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        It is interesting, but do they have their own diapers, Israeli, or are they combined arms of the American type, delivered with the F-15?

        Let's hope the professor answers laughing
        1. jjj
          +14
          6 October 2015 15: 12
          For Israel in the Syrian context. Netanyahu flew to Putin to find out what the matter would turn out to be. I received first-hand information that it was Russia that would squeeze the terrorists. Israel quickly, faster than the United States, established a direct information bridge with our military. Received information on the start of hostilities in a timely manner and receives information on further actions. But, as we see, they decided to conduct another reconnaissance of air defense systems. However, they were notified in advance that this should not be done.
        2. 740
          +1
          6 October 2015 15: 30
          Quote: 0255
          Let's hope the professor answers

          By concepts? wink
          1. +7
            6 October 2015 19: 23
            Quote: 740
            By concepts?


            To get an answer on the "concepts", you must first be able to "present" something, and then "substantiate" what you "present", otherwise ...... "sadness" can turn out lol
            1. 740
              +1
              6 October 2015 19: 30
              Quote: ancient
              To get an answer on the "concepts", you must first be able to "present" something, and then "substantiate" what you "present", otherwise ...... "sadness" can turn out

              The words of an experienced breeder smile
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        1. +21
          6 October 2015 16: 19
          Quote: Kolobok19
          That's right, Russian diapers are not needed. As usual in the pants. They are in pants as usual

          Not in trousers, but in bloomers! And to strangers.
          Rabbit, Bloody Pastor and Chocolate King will not let lie. smile
          1. +12
            6 October 2015 16: 29
            Give the Jews at least one last vote.
            1. -54
              6 October 2015 16: 35
              Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral wassat
              1. +21
                6 October 2015 16: 52
                Quote: Kolobok19
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet.

                You can in more detail about this, links to articles are welcome.)))
                And recall from what year the state of Israel exists, and in whose territories your great ours have settled))))
                For me personally, that Jews and Gypsies are one and the same.
                1. +2
                  6 October 2015 17: 15
                  Yes, and with whose goodwill (Uncle Joe) they (the Jews) received this land to live ...
              2. +12
                6 October 2015 19: 11
                Quote: Kolobok19
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet.

                And who told you that it was the Jews, and not, for example, the Arabs? Jews with Arabs all their lives like a cat with a dog. And genetically, not just relatives - one people.

                And further. Perhaps Israel will catch a cold at our funeral. So, cockroaches will survive a nuclear war too. Is it a shame to be just as tenacious?
              3. +4
                6 October 2015 19: 38
                Quote: Kolobok19
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral wassat

                Do not you swallow the dust? You need to be a little bit more modest
              4. +8
                6 October 2015 19: 42
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral

                In some ways, these words are reminiscent of excerpts from the "new" history of Ukraine. wassat
                1. 0
                  6 October 2015 20: 20
                  they created the same faces in profile, with Khazar surnames)
              5. +1
                6 October 2015 20: 00
                Quote: Kolobok19
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. ... wassat

                Something this term is not found in any written sources before 1820, before that a completely different term was used, and the widespread use of this term began only after 1917. The term Russians appears in the XNUMXth century, under Ioan Vasilvich IV. Before that, the term "rusichi" was used.
              6. +12
                6 October 2015 23: 27
                Quote: Kolobok19
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral wassat

                That you tell the Ukrainians, they will lively teach you who is ancient
              7. +3
                7 October 2015 11: 45
                Quote: Kolobok19
                Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet.

                And even in those immemorial times, Jews were everywhere persecuted so that they would not spoil those around them.
              8. 0
                7 October 2015 20: 46
                Already there were - of course, bacteria. (joke)
              9. 0
                8 October 2015 10: 59
                bun, I have friends through one Jew. but I’ve never heard of such garbage. and we, Russians, is it like your project? like a homunculus? why so much aggression?
              10. 0
                8 October 2015 10: 59
                bun, I have friends through one Jew. but I’ve never heard of such garbage. and we, Russians, is it like your project? like a homunculus? why so much aggression?
        2. +3
          6 October 2015 18: 52
          Oh, Kolobok, but I doubted. You are not only a Bandera.
        3. +10
          6 October 2015 19: 06
          Quote: Kolobok19
          That's right, Russian diapers are not needed. As usual in the pants. They are in pants as usual

          Where's the pants? In which country and in which war?

          They are blinded by those who did not think in anger at their former Homeland, and then they are offended by anti-Semitism. Holocaust, screaming, genocide, yelling ... Yes, for your people, for one Rothschild and the two world wars unleashed by him and his gang, you can’t wash yourself like the Germans did for Hitler ...
          1. +2
            6 October 2015 20: 19
            Zoldat_A - I don’t think that anyone here is angry with their former homeland, angry with the rudeness of most of the local inhabitants — who would be pleased to read the insults of their prime minister, the boorish attitude to the representatives of our country, Ida and just anti-Semitic remarks, I don’t think that we should list them fluently view this thread. By the way, Rothschild was a Christian.
            1. +7
              7 October 2015 00: 12
              Quote: wanderer
              I don’t think that anyone here is angry with their former homeland, angry with the rudeness of most of the local inhabitants — who would be pleased to read the insults of their prime minister boorish attitude towards the representatives of our country


              Wanderer, speak for yourself! Your rating is also negative - but you are for 4 years scored -2389, and Kolobok is only 9 hours - and already -4597! This is generally a super hutspan!

              Quote: wanderer
              By the way, Rothschild was a Christian.


              Which the? There were actually a lot of them ... The one who cooked on Waterloo, or one of those brothers who cooked on the Franco-Prussian, or the one to whom Balfour addressed his "declaration"?
            2. +1
              7 October 2015 00: 13
              Quote: wanderer
              I don’t think that anyone here is angry with their former homeland, angry with the rudeness of most of the local inhabitants — who would be pleased to read the insults of their prime minister boorish attitude towards the representatives of our country


              Wanderer, speak for yourself! Your rating is also negative - but you are for 4 years scored -2389, and Kolobok is only 9 hours - and already -4597! This is generally a super hutspan!

              Quote: wanderer
              By the way, Rothschild was a Christian.


              Which the? There were actually a lot of them ... The one who cooked on Waterloo, or one of those brothers who cooked on the Franco-Prussian, or the one to whom Balfour addressed his "declaration"?
            3. +13
              7 October 2015 00: 28
              Quote: wanderer
              By the way, Rothschild was a Christian.

              Amschel Moses Bauer, living with his son Mayer Amschel Bauer, with the family name "Rot Schild", lived in the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt am Main, being Christians? Fear your god, dear wanderer! And against the anti-Semitic statements I ran into Kolobok19 not for the sake of pure anti-Semitism, but because of his hatred of Russia and the Russian, saying that
              Russian diapers are not needed. As usual in the pants. They are in pants as usual
              On my suggestion to give examples of where and when "in the pants" - did not answer. I did not say anything about the Jewish people as a whole - 149 Heroes of the Soviet Union for such a small people, and even scattered around the world - a respected figure. In addition, the order of G. Meyer after Munich impressed me personally. But just like that, it’s indiscriminate to whine, sitting in Tel Aviv, the Russian-Soviet-Russian Army, having smeared with shit ... Mr. all her victories and forgetting about her innate stamina and heroism ...

              Would fix it Kolobok19 silently his primus, counted the shekel growth data and painted his red sign. I would not run into anti-Semitism.
              1. +1
                7 October 2015 14: 12
                ,, and would paint his red sign ... ,,
                Rotten signboard!
            4. +1
              7 October 2015 15: 06
              so don’t come here, people are rude here. Look for a more intelligent audience.
            5. 0
              7 October 2015 15: 06
              so don’t come here, people are rude here. Look for a more intelligent audience.
            6. 0
              12 October 2015 20: 31
              So tell your relatives, you don’t need to tease and call Russians, it’s not a geyropa for you and all Zionist attempts are in vain - they won’t do it!
      3. +6
        6 October 2015 16: 31
        Hi Why write this. The Israelis are already working in full contact with ours there in Syria. As said to prevent incidents in the airspace. In this they are well done ahead of the whole Coalition. Of course, they have their own interest. But for sure our bombers will not be there. The normal situation. There was such a situation always and IG would not have been
      4. +2
        6 October 2015 18: 13
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Interestingly, and they have their own diapers, Israeli,
        - by the way, a rare der ... mo these diapers, from the moment my daughter's bottom all went rash, and it can be seen that it itched terribly, bipanten saved, talcum powder, etc., had to return to the good old "diapers". Although goy butt, of course, do not resemble Israeli diapers laughing
    5. +2
      6 October 2015 15: 08
      Yes sir !!! These "individuals" that you mentioned are doing exactly this !!! Apparently, some of the modders are covering them here, tk. whatever they write, they are not banned, but God forbid that you write something negative in their address, you will immediately catch a ban !!! ???
      1. +6
        6 October 2015 15: 40
        Quote: Sanmak
        Yes sir !!! These "individuals" that you mentioned are doing exactly this !!! Apparently, some of the modders are covering them here, tk. whatever they write, they are not banned, but God forbid that you write something negative in their address, you will immediately catch a ban !!! ???

        A lot of Jews were banned at VO.
      2. +4
        6 October 2015 19: 18
        Quote: Sanmak
        Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral

        But this
        Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral
        does not fit the definition of "inciting ethnic hatred"? Under the attempt to humiliate one people, showing the imaginary innate superiority of another? Question, including moderators.
      3. 0
        12 October 2015 20: 39
        Sanmak (9) SU

        I see you turned out to be 100% right! You were banned and this is an extra confirmation of your words!
    6. +1
      6 October 2015 15: 23
      All western throats are torn - Russian planes violated the border of Turkey
      ... the Turks themselves just reaped the October 5th report
      ..from the report:
      -8 f-16 aircraft were on patrol along the Turkish-Syrian border
      - during the execution of this mission, the Turkish air force aircraft were accompanied by a radar of a MIG_29 aircraft of an unknown nationality for a total of 4 minutes 30 seconds ... and were accompanied by a radar of SA missile systems from Syrian territory for 4 minutes 15 seconds ...
      .... Hava Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı:
      Sekiz adet F-16 ile Türkiye-Suriye hudut hattı boyunca devriye uçuşu icra edilmiştir. Bu gorev esnasında, uçaklarımıza;
      Milliyeti tespit edilemeyen MIG-29 uçağı tarafından radar kilidini muhafaza ederek toplam 4 dakika 30 saniye süre ile,
      Suriye'de konuşlu SA füze sistemleri tarafından toplam 4 dakika 15 saniye süre ile tacizde bulunulmuştur.
      ......
      yuyuyu .... Where are border violations ????
  3. +5
    6 October 2015 14: 18
    Useful and interesting interview.
  4. +2
    6 October 2015 14: 19
    The valiant Hale-Avir apparently decided to cover up the ISIS’s peaceful excavators with its powerful wings ... Now the faithful will come running to explain to the gentiles that their air grills will still show us .. hi
    1. +11
      6 October 2015 16: 15
      Quote: Altona
      The valiant Hale-Avir apparently decided to cover up the ISIS’s peaceful excavators with its powerful wings ... Now the faithful will come running to explain to the gentiles that their air grills will still show us .. hi

      I'm crying! laughing
      1. 740
        +3
        6 October 2015 17: 45
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Altona
        The valiant Hale-Avir apparently decided to cover up the ISIS’s peaceful excavators with its powerful wings ... Now the faithful will come running to explain to the gentiles that their air grills will still show us .. hi

        I'm crying! laughing
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      3. 0
        7 October 2015 11: 54
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        laughing

        hi Aron, why aren’t you minded and banned? Where do the hordes of anti-Semites who have entrenched in the VO look at? Lost vigilance? The innate reflex to the flag with the star of David does not work, which for them is like a red rag for a bull? What is your secret? Share it. Not with me, with your compatriots. laughing
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    2. -9
      6 October 2015 16: 21
      You apparently do not know that ISIS is already shelling Israel from Gaza, but for cooperation with ISIS, Israel is a prison. You do not understand what to write about at all.
      Israel does not need ISIS and Israel has never supported it.
      1. +3
        6 October 2015 16: 30
        I'm so sorry.
      2. +8
        6 October 2015 16: 41
        Quote: Kolobok19
        that ISIS is already shelling Israel from Gaza

        Well, of course, they have already reached Gaza! lol What, a new reason to once again plunge through the blocks of Gaza? fool There, like Hamas steers, and they have strict competitors.
        1. -24
          6 October 2015 17: 12
          This once again shows not your knowledge of the situation and empty assaults. fool
          Strictly not strictly, but there is Islamic jihad, and ISIS and other cells. And sometimes they shoot at Israel.
          The reason to bang it in your Syria is not ISIS, but in Israel, if it strikes then the terrorists.
          1. +12
            6 October 2015 18: 27
            Damn it to the beat! Well, what's not to like that ???? Well, no matter what they did, and Baba Yaga (one small, but sooo proud country) - well AGAINST !!! And that's it! -ra you do not like attacks on terrorists (no matter what) ?? You fuck them yourself, what are the reproaches to us? And in general, on what basis? "God's Chosenness"? The arrogance of some "individuals" pisses me off!

            Aaron Zaavi is just a "dandelion" with his "sarcasm" compared to some of the trolls.
            1. 0
              6 October 2015 18: 49
              What hurt ?? !! good So foresee that from behind that (habit ?! laughing ) to wet.
            2. +4
              6 October 2015 22: 54
              Quote: skifd
              Aron Zaavi is just "dandelion"

              You are right, everything is learned by comparison. Of all, or better to say, representatives of the "God-chosen" people, Aron and Nas Rat, who often visit VO, are the most gifted with intelligence and a sense of humor.
          2. +1
            6 October 2015 18: 58
            It will be correct .... ignorance ... That is, together in this case. Gingerbread man, what are you feeding? It seems young. And rape a chair. And Claudia.
          3. +1
            7 October 2015 11: 54
            Quote: Kolobok19
            The reason to bang it in your Syria is not ISIS, but in Israel, if it strikes then the terrorists.

            laughing And ours in Syria, therefore, the poor Arabs from "Al-Nusra" are not offending for anything. So take them to your "promised land" and there babysit with them, but with us: "who did not hide, I am not to blame." With weapons, and not from our side, it means that the terrorist must be destroyed.
      3. +5
        6 October 2015 19: 08
        Quote: Kolobok19
        You apparently do not know that ISIS is already shelling Israel from Gaza, but for cooperation with ISIS, Israel is a prison. You do not understand what to write about at all.
        Israel does not need ISIS and Israel has never supported it.

        ----------------------
        Come on, did Yediot Ahronot tell you this? The Mossad has long been in charge of ISIS groups at the insistent request of the US CIA, and such contacts have been recorded ... Well, you are not supposed to know about this, so you write angry comments ... Either you are forbidden to cooperate with ISIS, then with the Nazis ... Nevertheless in Ukraine it was Jewish capital that raised Bandera ...
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      5. +1
        7 October 2015 10: 23
        ISIS doesn’t need Israel and Israel never supported it. ,,
        Of course, you simply treat them. Because of congenital philanthropy, or are there other reasons?
  5. +2
    6 October 2015 14: 19
    It’s good to know the truth, and not to guess on the coffee grounds what is true and what is false. love
  6. +7
    6 October 2015 14: 20
    Quote: Stranger03
    most importantly, don't drag us into a second afghan


    Well, just like a woman. The terrible genocide that the West arranged for us in the 90s is nothing worse. We still have not restored the population that was in the RSFSR in 1991 even after annexing Crimea. These are millions of people.
  7. +9
    6 October 2015 14: 20
    It's called "Feel the Difference!" Clear, understandable answers of a professional and informational information filled with media. Thanks for the interview! We look forward to continuing!
    1. -20
      6 October 2015 16: 06
      God, what gullible people went laughing
      The usual stupid propaganda.
      1. +16
        6 October 2015 16: 54
        Well, yes you are one so smart all over the world, the rest went out for a walk like that.
        1. -15
          6 October 2015 18: 07
          From here we know better than you. We read such nonsense constantly. It’s now that you have the whole ether clogged with Syria.
          1. +3
            6 October 2015 19: 03
            Gingerbread man, can you see with your eyes in the form of an American quarter?
          2. +11
            6 October 2015 23: 36
            Quote: Kolobok19
            From here we know better than you. We read such nonsense constantly. It’s now that you have the whole ether clogged with Syria.

            Kolobok you write comments similar to nonsense now.
      2. +3
        6 October 2015 19: 02
        Typical for a knowledgeable and arrogant Jew - trusting, stupid, oh my God !!!! Kolobok, but who is he? Semi-literate of the chosen?
      3. 0
        6 October 2015 19: 49
        Quote: Kolobok19
        God, what gullible people went laughing
        The usual stupid propaganda.

        Don’t talk. All of them laughing , here I am. I don’t even trust myself
  8. +6
    6 October 2015 14: 20
    There will be a lot of things now. And the intensity of the information struggle against insolent and outright lies, and attempts to probe the defense of the base both by the Israelis and by other rascals under various pretexts. The Turks are already beginning to become impudent. Western "partners" are still quiet and probably just do not know how to approach. But I am sure that soon they will start shitting too. You should not expect anything else from the Anglo-Saxons.
    Therefore, you need to be extremely tough within the framework of the law, so that the "opponents" could not find fault. after all, their violation of international law is the way it should be. Others are a mortal sin. Just so that you can answer with confidence that you are right, and not just so that we are, like, stronger and "more exceptional" ...
    Personally, my opinion hi
  9. +7
    6 October 2015 14: 21

    Infopole is overwhelmed with a look of hysteria: "Aah! Now, the US will shoot down Russian planes! They have already transferred F-22! Putin didn’t want the Third World War in Novorossia, so he still, bastard, will get it in Syria!".
    View in full: http://politrussia.com/world/amerikanskaya-isterika-607/
  10. +3
    6 October 2015 14: 22
    No, militant leaders need to be destroyed. History shows that this is the most effective remedy.
  11. +1
    6 October 2015 14: 23
    They lie, but everything can be ... The Middle East needs to be returned!
    1. +3
      6 October 2015 14: 45
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The Middle East needs to be returned!

      Masterpiece, to whom? :-)
      1. 740
        +3
        6 October 2015 15: 20
        Quote: rosarioagro
        Masterpiece, to whom? :-)

        Apparently Vitaly had in mind the Russian Federation. feel
        1. +2
          6 October 2015 17: 34
          Quote: 740
          Apparently Vitaly had in mind the Russian Federation.

          And he-the Middle East ever belonged to the Russian Federation? There is such a tangle, today some interests, tomorrow others
          1. 740
            +1
            6 October 2015 17: 42
            Quote: rosarioagro
            And he-the Middle East ever belonged to the Russian Federation?

            The question is not addressed. Ask a resident of the South Urals. He is an imperial Yes
        2. +2
          6 October 2015 19: 07
          To its inhabitants, and not to the Anglo-Saxons, to a complete depletion of resources.
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      3. +1
        6 October 2015 19: 58
        Quote: rosarioagro
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The Middle East needs to be returned!

        Masterpiece, to whom? :-)

        Try to return to the original state at least. Before "shit-making" "exceptional".
        And so in the Middle East, it seems that everyone wants something, and everyone is trying to achieve their own by very non-"democratic" methods, it has always been so.
        There weren’t enough Saudis, so the United States, the Britons always climbed their nasty faces, they are interesting to promote.
        Peace in the Middle East is more likely to be dreamed of. (and the world on BV is for "exceptional crap" as a nightmare seems
  12. +7
    6 October 2015 14: 27
    You cannot stop until this evil is cleaned out. For she will trample on, if not stopped. And we will have to fight on our territory. If Assad managed to restrain this audience for more than four years and not surrender under the most powerful pressure from the insolent Saxons and their henchmen, then with the help of Russia he must withstand. This is not Yanukovych, whom the "light elves" poked at a little ... he leaked everything.
    And the Syrian pilot - well done, a real Warrior !!!
  13. +2
    6 October 2015 14: 33
    They drove, put them at such a distance that the Russians could not get it.
    Yeah, and probably they did a bunch of pictures against their background, so that later they could mount the cut and show the video how they successfully fired at the Russians, but no ..
    artillery strikes of the Syrian army, they were destroyed. That's the whole story
    End selfie
  14. +7
    6 October 2015 14: 34
    Meanwhile, in Yemen ...

    “The army and people's committees reflected the efforts of Saudi mercenaries to move to Bab al-Mandeb four times,” an FNA source said on Monday.

    “Army forces and people's committees killed or wounded dozens of Saudi coalition soldiers and their mercenaries who tried to maintain control of Bab al-Mandeb,” the source added.

    An FNA source, who is an army officer, said the Saudi military were also defeated in the Jebel al-Nasr region and lost a number of forces.

    The strait of Bab al-Mandeb (divides the Arabian Peninsula and Africa) and its coastal areas were under massive ground and air strikes by Saudi forces under the leadership of the coalition and forces loyal to the fugitive president Mansour Hadi.

    The Yemeni Ministry of Defense was the first to confirm on Sunday that the large-scale offensive by the Saudi coalition, in order to take control of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait in West Yemen, was repelled.

    In an interview for al-Mayadin news channel, an informed source denied the occupation of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait by Saudi Arabia.

    “Clashes continue in Bab al-Mandeb and the army, and people's committees forced the mercenaries and coalition forces to leave,” he added.

    Yemeni forces and Ansarullah (a paramilitary group of Shiite Zeidites) shot down a helicopter and a reconnaissance drone in the western regions of the country.

    Saudi Arabia bombed Yemen for 194 days to restore power to President Hadi, a close ally of Riyadh. At least 6445 Yemenis were killed in the conflict, including hundreds of women and children.

    Hadi resigned in January and refused to reconsider the decision, despite calls from the revolutionaries of the Ansarullah Huti movement.

    Despite Riyadh's claims that he is bombing the positions of Ansarullah fighters, Saudi warplanes also raid residential areas and civilian infrastructures.

    Source http://podrobnosti.biz/news/7372-proliv-bab-almandeb-polnostyu-kontroliruetsya-y
    emenskoy-armiey /
  15. -17
    6 October 2015 14: 43
    Quote: 0255
    Now the Jews will run over again and say that C-300 or Su-30 will never bring down the kosher F-15 in their life, and the Israeli pilot did not leave the Russian Su-30, and the Syrian officer is lying, and that there is no need to read Soviet newspapers at breakfast wassat Professor, Atalef, Pimpled and others, where are you?

    Here, as it were, it is not said what exactly the f-15 was leaving. He just suggested, that is, he has no information.
    And if this is true, then all the idiots were mistaken when it flowed from fantasies that the Su-30 almost launched rockets on f-15 laughing
    1. +6
      6 October 2015 14: 59
      Quote: retardu

      Here, as it were, it is not said what exactly the f-15 was leaving. He just suggested, that is, he has no information.
      And if this is true, then all the idiots were mistaken when it flowed from fantasies that the Su-30 almost launched rockets on f-15 laughing

      Just as long as there were no Russian air forces in Syria, the Jews bombed Syria with impunity, and as they appeared, the Israeli F-15 immediately fell back. Coincidence?
      1. -16
        6 October 2015 16: 11
        You can find out what the Jews bombed in Syria? Terrorists and those who shoot at Israel from the territory of Syria?
        Well, God himself commanded.
        If Syria hadn’t delivered weapons to terrorists in Lebanon, then Israel would not have flown. And it’s stupid to blame Israel for having to fly into Syria because Syria does not comply with resolutions and helps terrorists and generally transfers Russian weapons that it is forbidden to transfer to them. Therefore, everyone is silent about the fact that Israeli planes sometimes strike at Syria, as it is clear that if the world community cannot force Syria to stop transferring weapons to terrorists, then there is no point in indignation.
        1. +2
          6 October 2015 16: 34
          Well, God forbid that the terrorists run into Israel, otherwise someone will fly in and start bombing them.
          1. 740
            -1
            6 October 2015 16: 37
            Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Well, God forbid that the terrorists run into Israel, otherwise someone will fly in and start bombing them.

            Let them run there. The Jews themselves will understand, and we will stand aside and see what happens. It is likely that the local Jewish diaspora will decrease, it’s a pity there are some cool men among them.
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          3. 0
            6 October 2015 20: 43
            Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Well, God forbid that the terrorists run into Israel, otherwise someone will fly in and start bombing them.

            Not. You should not even worry about this. They quickly feel these gangs spit out. I definitely have no doubt about that.
        2. +4
          6 October 2015 17: 15
          Quote: Kolobok19
          You can find out what the Jews bombed in Syria? Terrorists and those who shoot at Israel from the territory of Syria?

          Terrorists are different (I was surprised to learn this from the Americans).
          And since Israel is an ally of the United States, and the United States is bombing Assad’s troops, one can imagine WHAT terrorists bombed Israel with the Yankees.
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        4. +5
          6 October 2015 20: 26
          Quote: Kolobok19
          And it's so stupid to blame Israel


          Amer-site "Veterans Today". The site of the former CIA officers, American military and specialists.

          Gordon Duff, Editor-in-Chief

          Israel again launched indiscriminate bombing of Gaza. This time, Netanyahu (knowing Russia's attitude to the Palestinian question) thus expresses his fury and avenges Russia for its warning to Israel, so that he would stop air support and the supply of isis terrorists inside Syria.

          Starting in 2011, Israel delivered air support to terrorists and fired artillery on parts of Syria. He sent at least 800 IDF specialists, fire coordinators, bomb technicians, and special operations commandos to militant units.

          Last week, President Putin warned Netanyahu that in connection with the Russian operation inside Syria, Israel’s violation of Syrian sovereignty would now be seen as an act of aggression against Russia.

          Netanyahu announced the closure of occupied Jerusalem - closed access to the Old City of Jerusalem for Palestinians - so now Jews can enjoy the holidays without seeing the locals.

          In May 2014, a Syrian special forces unit operating albeit accidentally in tandem with US Delta Force, in a double attack on Der ez Zor and Al Mayaden, found evidence that Israel was working with isis in Palmyra and ordered the destruction of the temple there to unleash a certain course of events.

          This course of events will continue in Jerusalem, where Israel will attack the Al-Aqsa Mosque, one of the holiest places in Islam.

          These attacks are ongoing, and Israel has resumed air attacks on the Gaza Strip, which is part of this plan. Israel coordinates this plan with isis and extremist religious groups.


          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/05/slaughter-in-gaza-begins-retaliation-for
          -russian-ban-on-syria-bombings /

          Google to help you translate the site by reference. This is not "our" media for you.
      2. +2
        6 October 2015 16: 19
        Quote: 0255

        Just as long as there were no Russian air forces in Syria, the Jews bombed Syria with impunity, and as they appeared, the Israeli F-15 immediately fell back. Coincidence?

        Often bombed? During the four years of the war in Syria, I found five cases in which the Syrians accused the IDF air forces of attacks in Syria. I even believe them. How many times has Israel voiced that it will destroy weapons for hez? Last year and a half, the Syrians overstated with this and no one flies to them.
  16. 0
    6 October 2015 14: 45
    I don’t find a good article about Ф15е
  17. +19
    6 October 2015 14: 51
    If Israeli planes crossed the border and returned, then believe me, not out of cowardice. If you received an order to evade direct contact - then NOT out of fear of Russian pilots. We have very good flyers, no worse than yours. It’s just that a battle is NOT NEEDED FOR YOU AND NOT FOR US either politically or non-militaryly.
    And if something had to be bombed - they will find another way - the Air Force is not a panacea for all problems.
    1. +7
      6 October 2015 15: 03
      .
      We have very good flyers, no worse than yours. It’s just that a battle is NOT NEEDED FOR YOU AND NOT FOR US either politically or non-militaryly.

      As for the qualifications and professionalism of the Israeli Air Force flight crew, I absolutely agree. Even proceeding not from current materials. In one of the Soviet surveys, those that went under a certain heading, it was written that the Israeli Air Force pilots had the maximum raid for those times among the air forces of the armies of capitalist countries. It was written about the operations carried out by the Israeli Air Force. I note that Soviet experts wrote.
      1. +3
        6 October 2015 15: 13
        But, as the late Honored Test Pilot of the USSR, Hero of the Soviet Union, Major General Aleksandr Savvich Bezhevets, said when he said goodbye to the personnel of our Directorate, then another 8 State Research Institute of the Air Force named after V.P. Chkalov (now 929GLITs), being transferred to Chkalovskaya about his trip to Egypt together with Stogov and Petrov ... in the first battle four Israeli Phantoms were shot down, although this was not the main task of that trip. The main task was to test the MiG-25 in real conditions ... which was done.
        1. -5
          6 October 2015 15: 40
          Operation Rimon 20 (Hebrew: רימון 20; Operation: Rimon 20, Operation Vetka) is the code name for the Israeli Air Force air battle against Soviet fighter pilots stationed in Egypt during the July 30 War of Attrition years, as a result of which five Soviet MiG-1970 fighters were shot down by Israeli F-21 Phantom and Mirage III fighters.



          On August 1, 1970, Air Force Commander of the USSR Marshal Pavel Kutakhov flew to Cairo. He ordered an investigation into the circumstances of the armed clash with the enemy. On August 2, Kutakhov ordered the cessation of flights of Soviet pilots in the Suez Canal zone. Marshall forbade his pilots to engage in battle with Israeli fighters. The leadership of the USSR notified the Egyptian side that it could no longer render assistance to the Egyptian government in ensuring the inviolability of Egyptian air borders.
          1. +5
            6 October 2015 17: 09
            After that, four test pilots from 8 GNIKI named after Chkalov were sent
            Since there were claims of Egypt, we note, not about the Soviet pilots, but about the quality of the MiG-21bis. The first air battle showed what I wrote above. Of course, it is worth noting that military test pilots went into battle. And these were the events of 1971. Then A.S. Bezhevets also completed several test flights on the MiG-25, including over Israel. At that time, neither Israeli fighter aircraft nor air defense systems could get the MiG-25.
            1. -1
              6 October 2015 18: 19
              Quote: Alexander1959
              After that, four test pilots from 8 GNIKI named after Chkalov were sent
              Since there were claims of Egypt, we note, not about the Soviet pilots, but about the quality of the MiG-21bis. The first air battle showed what I wrote above. Of course, it is worth noting that military test pilots went into battle. And these were the events of 1971. Then A.S. Bezhevets also completed several test flights on the MiG-25, including over Israel. At that time, neither Israeli fighter aircraft nor air defense systems could get the MiG-25.

              Firstly, there were no events about which you wrote. Secondly, well, the MIG-25 flew in the stratosphere, so what? What was this interceptor fighter looking for there? As soon as he went down to the height of ordinary fighter bombers, he was immediately flunked in 1982.
              1. +1
                7 October 2015 21: 44
                What was this interceptor fighter looking for there?

                The MiG-25P fighter-interceptor was not looking for anything there, since at that time there was a reconnaissance version of the MiG-35RB wassat
                Secondly, well, the MIG-25 flew in the stratosphere, so what?

                And he must fly there. I repeat do not distort the facts.
                I have not mentioned here about the air battles of the Syrian Air Force with the Israeli over South Lebanon. ! 982g. Two Syrian MiG-21bis versus four Israeli F-15s. The leader of the Syrian pair shot down an F-15 and was shot down himself. The wingman, covering the leader, shot down another F-15 and was also shot down. The result of the air battle - 2 F-15 and 2 MiG-21 were shot down. The data was taken from the "Air Force Information Collection", in my opinion for the 2nd quarter of 1982, while still in a military school.
                1. 0
                  8 October 2015 13: 04
                  there was a reconnaissance version of the MiG-35RB wassat

                  Sorry, wrong. of course MiG-25RB
          2. 0
            6 October 2015 19: 16
            Gingerbread man, fighters are not Israeli. But on the other hand, they are definitely Soviet. You catch the difference. Worms on the hook?
    2. +10
      6 October 2015 15: 20
      Quite right, "neither YOU NEED the fight, nor US." Just a small request - stop "nightmaring" the Syrians. Well, not like a man it is when your neighbor's house is on fire to look at his "barn".
      1. +1
        6 October 2015 15: 37
        Quote: Andru
        Quite right, "neither YOU NEED the fight, nor US." Just a small request - stop "nightmaring" the Syrians.


        Assad is preferable for Israel, rather than disparate groups that will divide the country into parts, and then there will definitely not be anyone to talk to - they are like a monkey with a grenade - you do not know what to expect from them. The problem begins when shells arrive at the Israeli territory (by accident or on purpose) - whoever sent, he received by mordogelnuyu-and who sent sent know. on the border are artillery radars that pinpoint the place of departure. In addition, under the guise of a part of the arms merges into Hezbollah. It is this drain that they are trying to prevent with point hits.
        1. -1
          9 October 2015 13: 35
          everything is correct) and here the situation was vice versa
          they hinted non-transparently that if planes or shells arrive, problems begin) iiii .... the planes decided not to fly ... and that’s good) and it’s better not to fly, but whoever gets it will get a badger.
    3. +6
      6 October 2015 15: 20
      And no one wrote that your pilots are cowards! The point is that now they will not be able to behave in Syria as "borzo" as before! Perhaps yours could be a provocation, and perhaps there will be more provocations, most likely !!! ???
      1. -9
        6 October 2015 16: 16
        The point is that now they will not be able to behave in Syria as "borzo" as before!


        Israel, if it flies, then to destroy the weapons that goes to terrorists. But Russia then why to Turkey?



        On Tuesday, October 6, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan threatened our country with the loss of friendly relations because of the situation in Syria.

        - Everyone knows our good relations with Russia. But if Russia loses a friend like Turkey, with whom it cooperates in many areas, it will lose a lot, and Moscow should know about it, ”he said at a press conference.


        Now quarrel also with Turkey with which Russia had good relations.
        1. +7
          6 October 2015 16: 38
          Why in Turkey - for the same reason - for the destruction of weapons that goes to terrorists. Turkey of Russia is a friend like Israel.
          1. -21
            6 October 2015 17: 14
            What weapon? Russia only deals with provocations in Turkey. Russia will not get to bomb Turkey.
        2. +7
          6 October 2015 16: 49
          Quote: Kolobok19
          then for the destruction of weapons that goes to terrorists.

          Yakhonts for Hezzbola? belay
          1. -12
            6 October 2015 17: 20
            Do you think that hezbollah is stupid people? And the Syrians who have a yacht could train or will help themselves, as they have done more than once.
        3. +6
          6 October 2015 17: 16
          But Russia then why to Turkey?

          Do not distort the facts. A deliberate violation of the Syrian border to a considerable depth and for a considerable period of time with strikes on Syrian territory, which no one requested. And perhaps an unintended short-term, up to two minutes, violation of Turkish airspace. feel the difference wassat
          As for or were normal relations with Turkey ... a matter of time ... and now it is premature to write about the long-term deterioration of Russian-Turkish relations.
        4. +1
          6 October 2015 19: 20
          How tired of the armless, legless and what? After all, they said that it flew for seconds. Well hinted - look do not be naughty here. And then, after all, a rocket can fly by accident. The Turks understood. What about Gingerbread Man?
        5. 0
          6 October 2015 20: 48
          Quote: Kolobok19
          Israel, if it flies, then to destroy the weapons that goes to terrorists. But Russia then why to Turkey?

          What do you mean why? Accustomed to rest there understand feel
        6. 0
          9 October 2015 01: 56
          Kolobok19IL

          if Israel flies, then just throw a swear at Assad !!! Everyone has long known that your state supports different groups of terrorists and pushes them between their foreheads, and even sets you on whom you want the Arab countries to unite and smudge your quasi-state !!!

          About Turkey! This is when Turkey was friendly towards Russia, or at least there were good relations ??? Throughout the history of their existence, the "Ottomans" have been and will be ENEMIES Russia! When in her camps she trained mercenaries and sent them to the Caucasus ??? As long as it is beneficial for them, they smile and wave, as the benefits will not be immediately visible to everyone in their true appearance !!! Yes, all this "stench" against Russia, including because Russia will help Assad close the border with Turkey and they (the Turks) will not be able to supply terrorists and weapons trained by them across the border !!!

          SO THAT IS NOT NECESSARY !!!
    4. +3
      6 October 2015 15: 21
      Quote: DanG73
      And if something had to be bombed - they will find another way

      To kill a bleeding country is kosher? you are insolent under the supervision of the Yankees, that's for sure. Something bad for you may happen from your rash actions.
      1. -6
        6 October 2015 16: 19
        To kill a bleeding country is kosher?


        What stupid propaganda?
        What are the blows of Israel that hit Assad?
        Well, let's just think.
        Divorced nowadays, patriots urya who do not even understand what they write.
        Israel has always targeted directly, either against terrorists or against those who fire at Israel.

        Why are you making up stupid things
        1. 0
          6 October 2015 19: 27
          Quote: Kolobok19
          Israel has always targeted directly, either against terrorists or against those who fire at Israel.

          and you still turn your tongue to say that Palestinian children are hitting you! I hope you understand what I mean.
        2. 0
          9 October 2015 14: 02
          disassembled many times already, if you give links to strikes against the Syrian military, you will vote that this was a deal to prevent the transfer of weapons)

          in fact, you again saw the same MIG over the capital) freeze and everything will end well, like last time.
    5. 740
      0
      6 October 2015 15: 26
      Quote: DanG73
      If Israeli planes crossed the border and returned, then believe me, not out of cowardice. If you received an order to evade direct contact - then NOT out of fear of Russian pilots. We have very good flyers, no worse than yours. It’s just that a battle is NOT NEEDED FOR YOU AND NOT FOR US either politically or non-militaryly.

      Oh, oh. laughing Daniel, admit that you are too late with the Russian boys to get rid of. laughing They made a heart-breaking monologue here. laughing
      1. +7
        6 October 2015 15: 45
        [/ Quote]
        Oh, oh. laughing Daniel, admit that you are too late with the Russian boys to get rid of. [/ quote]

        Read the new history, since 1948. And after reading, you will learn that the Israeli soldiers never, as you put it, "fidget" in front of anyone, with the fact that in all wars they were in a tangible minority. So, "to die for the Motherland" is not only the property of Russians.
        1. 740
          +1
          6 October 2015 15: 51
          Quote: DanG73
          as you put it, do not "fidget" in front of anyone,

          Then do not stop the Russian air group from deciding on a covered roof. Fly yourself calmly over Lebanon and Gaza and bomb whatever you want there. And do not climb into our Syrian garden. Otherwise, God don’t bring a war between your and our pilots to the joy of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE.
        2. 0
          7 October 2015 10: 47
          Quote: DanG73

          Read the new history, since 1948. And after reading, you will learn that the Israeli soldiers never, as you put it, "fidget" in front of anyone, with the fact that in all wars they were in a tangible minority. So, "to die for the Motherland" is not only the property of Russians.

          "never fidget", "in front of anyone" - is there so many defirambs about semi-literate Arabs?)) "In a tangible minority" - oh, yeah, I wonder how much Israel would have held out in a "tangible minority" without frenzied and boundless US assistance.
      2. 0
        6 October 2015 16: 23
        Quote: 740

        Oh, oh. laughing Daniel, admit that you are too late with the Russian boys to get rid of. laughing They made a heart-breaking monologue here. laughing

        Like it’s never been idle. Why now?
        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Операция_«Римон_20»
        1. 740
          0
          6 October 2015 16: 33
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: 740

          Oh, oh. laughing Daniel, admit that you are too late with the Russian boys to get rid of. laughing They made a heart-breaking monologue here. laughing

          Like it’s never been idle. Why now?
          https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Операция_«Римон_20»

          Yes, I read it, up the branch, your compatriot posted. So why then do not wet the Ishilov’s?
    6. +1
      6 October 2015 15: 35
      Well, yes, well, yes ... Reread Krylov's fable. About the fox and the grapes. If "It's just that neither you nor us need such a battle either from the political or military side.", Then there is nothing at all to check the air defense system for lice and approach to the borders of another state.
      Remember how in Egypt the Jewish Phantoms suddenly stopped flying. Probably also "got the command"? Or is it because the Russians found a way to bring them down into the Red Sea?
    7. +4
      6 October 2015 16: 02
      ..... Just such a fight DOESN’T NEED YOU AND NOT US either politically or non-militaryly ....

      ... Then what the fuck .. do you climb in the sky of Syria ???
    8. -1
      6 October 2015 19: 13
      Quote: DanG73
      If Israeli planes crossed the border and returned, then believe me, not out of cowardice. If you received an order to evade direct contact - then NOT out of fear of Russian pilots.

      ----------------------
      Yes, good, good pilots you have ... Only in combat you fly with the support of all conceivable and inconceivable radars against one on-board on the MiG-21 ... And you have AWACS, Hokai, and ground crap ... You really if you fight in a patriotic hysteria, then write real ... And then you highlighted the S-400 in your ass, and you fell to your place ... The circumcised warriors ...
    9. +4
      7 October 2015 00: 50
      Quote: DanG73
      If Israeli planes crossed the border and returned, then believe me, not out of cowardice. If you received an order to evade direct contact - then NOT out of fear of Russian pilots. We have very good flyers, no worse than yours. It’s just that a battle is NOT NEEDED FOR YOU AND NOT FOR US either politically or non-militaryly.
      The first smart comment from a person with a blue and white flag for today. I agree not even to 100%, but to all C-300. Let us leave the discussion about whose pilots are better - if there was an air battle - there would be something to discuss. The question is different - what interesting things did the Israeli Air Force pilots want to see on our base? Maybe they didn’t want to look at our base at all in Israel, but far, far overseas? Well, I don’t believe that something new would open for Israeli pilots at the Russian airfield ... In any case, before being interested in what they do not want to show you, and, even more so, at the request of the "great friend of Israel", you had to think - are they waiting for you there ...
      1. 0
        7 October 2015 14: 38
        ,, The question is different - what interesting things did the Israeli Air Force pilots want to see on our base ?,
        The answer is simple - they wanted to see the reaction to their provocation. They saw it, and quickly drifted back to Israel.
    10. 0
      12 October 2015 20: 53
      You didn’t want to receive non kosher lyuli
  18. +2
    6 October 2015 15: 06
    Guys, give you the god of health, a solid hand and a well-aimed eye, soak this wretched, rabid army of hell !!!
  19. +4
    6 October 2015 15: 07
    kosher f-15!))))))))))))))
  20. -1
    6 October 2015 15: 08
    The story of this former pilot is not credible. he doesn’t know whether there are s-300, s-400 installations, but what he knew on the night from the 1st to the 2nd, he knows very well and even in details. Fake it !!!
    1. +2
      6 October 2015 15: 16
      is there any installation of s-300, s-400 he does not know

      Or doesn’t want to tell wassat
    2. +4
      6 October 2015 15: 43
      But the stories of commentators from Israel about the battles in Syria should be considered pure truth (or dirty lie)?
    3. +1
      6 October 2015 16: 08
      .... is there any installation of s-300, s-400 he does not know ...

      .... Enough for the moment that the "Moscow" off the coast of Latakia has a naval version of the S-300 ... Given the distance, it completely covers almost the entire territory of Israel and part of Syria ...
      1. -10
        6 October 2015 16: 42
        So what? laughing
        Well covers. Israel can cover the whole territory of Syria without problems and why? fool
        1. +3
          6 October 2015 19: 40
          Quote: Kolobok19
          the whole territory of Syria without problems

          Problems have not yet come to you. laughing
        2. +7
          6 October 2015 23: 58
          tongue
          Quote: Kolobok19
          So what? laughing
          Well covers. Israel can cover the whole territory of Syria without problems and why? fool

          The gingerbread man bull can also cover a herd of cows, then the coverlet will fall off.
        3. 0
          7 October 2015 14: 41
          Now it can’t. Mogelka is trembling.
    4. -1
      12 October 2015 20: 56
      shat56IL
      everything that comes from your people is not credible! By the way, there are many examples for many, many years!
  21. +5
    6 October 2015 15: 18
    Quote: rosarioagro
    his son didn’t succeed, and here they also wave to Iraq

    Why didn’t it work? He has stood against the whole West, led by the United States for 4 of the year, with our help, of course. What about Iraq? So, Isil, by any means, must be finished, and his nest is in Iraq, so it is necessary to go to Iraq. With an official invitation from the government, naturally.
    1. -13
      6 October 2015 16: 52
      He does not hold at all. It is kept by Russia, which clearly said - if you touch Assad or the situation will be dangerous for Assad - we will come to Syria. Do you really think that if the US wanted Assad could have survived on its own?
      1. +5
        6 October 2015 17: 25
        Quote: Kolobok19
        Do you really think that if the US wanted Assad could have survived on its own?

        No need to make the United States omnipotent.
        They were GREATLY ATTENDED by losses in Iraq, and corpses are still being carried from Afghanistan and planes are falling. I doubt that they needed another meat grinder.
        1. -11
          6 October 2015 17: 40
          Again, you are not writing about that.
          Wanted in Iraq? There is no Iraq. Wanted in Libya - no Libya. That's it.
          They can decide it and they can and decide whether they need a meat grinder or not. But again, they decide it themselves and do not ask anyone.
          1. +3
            6 October 2015 18: 36
            Wanted in Iraq? There is no Iraq. Wanted in Libya - no Libya.
            Wanted Syria - Russian troops appeared in Syria. Do you feel the difference ??
            1. -10
              6 October 2015 18: 48
              I feel. The difference is that those countries didn’t give a damn to Russia and it merged them, and in Syria its interests and the last base and therefore Russia doesn’t give a damn about Assad and the people of Syria, but simply without Assad Russia has no more base and influence and an opportunity to show the West teeth and force the west to listen. For the sake of this, Russia has already forgiven Syria for my 10 billion and now it will spend billions.
              1. +3
                6 October 2015 18: 57
                Quote: Kolobok19
                . For the sake of this, Russia has already forgiven Syria for my 10 billion and now it will spend billions.

                You are already the third pseudo Jew who tells me what and how much Russia has forgiven Syria.
                What business are you asking? To whom and what does Russia forgive?
                And the influence of Russia, believe me more than you. Russia once in 20 years has shown its teeth, and the Jews already have a panic. Why are you afraid? Black lord with you))))
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              3. +6
                6 October 2015 19: 17
                Quote: Kolobok19
                I feel. The difference is that those countries didn’t give a damn to Russia and it merged them, and in Syria its interests and the last base and therefore Russia doesn’t give a damn about Assad and the people of Syria, but simply without Assad Russia has no more base and influence and an opportunity to show the West teeth and force the west to listen. For the sake of this, Russia has already forgiven Syria for my 10 billion and now it will spend billions.

                ----------------------
                From the UN rostrum, they explained to us what we are doing in Syria: we are slaughtering militants who are 800 km to our border and support an ally at his request ... Keep your perception of reality to yourself ...
              4. 0
                8 October 2015 21: 53
                Quote: Kolobok19
                For the sake of this, Russia has already forgiven Syria for my 10 billion and now it will spend billions.

                A bun, a bun.
                he is running from grandmother
                and from grandfather to run. and left with VO
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          3. +3
            6 October 2015 18: 43
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Wanted in Iraq? There is no Iraq. Wanted in Libya - no Libya. That's it.
            They can decide it and they can and decide whether they need a meat grinder or not. But then again they decide it themselves and ask no one.


            Here some must ... have tried to prove that they themselves, too, "decide" everything for themselves (well, that's why they are small, but fearless), so why should Russia be interested in someone else's opinion (and especially YOUR) ???? !! wassat am
          4. +2
            6 October 2015 20: 53
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Again, you are not writing about that.
            Wanted in Iraq? There is no Iraq. Wanted in Libya - no Libya. That's it.
            They can decide it and they can and decide whether they need a meat grinder or not. But again, they decide it themselves and do not ask anyone.

            And for this you are ready to lick their ass? laughing
            Oh my god, no, you're not a Jew for sure. If a Jew, then of Ukrainian origin. Thinking more Hohlyatsky, that is, almost bl ... something
          5. +1
            7 October 2015 00: 53
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Wanted in Iraq? There is no Iraq. Wanted in Libya - no Libya.


            Wanted in Vietnam? No USA!
            Wanted at Playa Giron? No USA!
            1. +1
              7 October 2015 01: 37
              Damn your forum fucking robots with their auto-change "p-n-d-s-in" to "USA"! am Such a programmer unfinished - in an eternal ban! angry His hands would be pulled out and inserted where necessary - but not where it was!
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  22. +6
    6 October 2015 15: 36
    Quote: DanG73
    It’s just that a battle is NOT NEEDED FOR YOU AND NOT FOR US either politically or non-militaryly.


    First of all, you don’t need it, because an attempt to attack our aircraft can turn into a war against Israel. And one does not have to be a visionary to understand how deep the craters will be in the place of a very shallow, but too arrogant state.
    1. +1
      6 October 2015 16: 25
      Whether Israel will take the right side or not, all the same it kirdyk, and the inhabitants - the road overseas. But the chances of survival, in my opinion, are higher in the fight against ISIS.
      1. -13
        6 October 2015 16: 56
        anyway, he kirdyk, and the inhabitants - the road overseas


        Don’t worry about us. So far, only the USSR has collapsedwassat
        1. +1
          6 October 2015 17: 32
          Don’t worry about us. So far, only the USSR has collapsed

          Oh, in vain you remembered the collapse of the USSR .... It’s not worth scumbling about this, otherwise, by the law of dirty tricks. something can happen to Israel ....
          Are you going to fight alone with ISIS and others? And then a coalition led by the United States will greatly help Israel?
          1. -4
            6 October 2015 17: 44
            Pay attention to a simple fact - ISIS is only where the state is already in ruin. In other places it does not and will not be - they will simply kill you.
            Israel has no problem fighting ISIS - they are weaker than the Hezbollah in terms of the quality of their weapons and there are places where, as I have already said, the weakening of the state or ruins.
            And in other countries, the maximum cell, which quickly suppresses.
    2. -6
      6 October 2015 16: 25
      Russia is not a fool to climb into Israel. Like Israel is not to confront Russia.
      No need to fantasize - Russia and Israel are all seized. Most apologize if something goes wrong wassat
      By the way, when Israel shot down the MiGs with Russian pilots in 1970, then for some reason the war with the USSR did not start, and the USSR was simply forbidden to fly its pilots.
      1. +2
        6 October 2015 16: 44
        Arrange yours anyway. And with it on favorable terms.
      2. 0
        9 October 2015 14: 28
        not so easy. then there was a long 3 years of work of the special services, and a large vault called you like? and then they again clearly told you that you are NOT invulnerable, as just recently. Stop running into it, start looking for common points with your neighbors, those who really look at the world you are now preparing for war, stabilization of Syria is dangerous for Israel. Start looking for friendship with your neighbors, the United States in the Middle East is losing ground, you risk staying in the circle of enemies without any support at all and Kissanger will no longer help) live together stop pressing territory, bomb neighbors, throw show-offs to the left and right, and everything will be fine. Do you understand that Syria will be free? Do you understand that the task will be completed? The task is not to bomb because it has been set .. according to calculations, this is enough, not enough will add. You don't have much time ... visibility million in a million.
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    1. -11
      6 October 2015 17: 25
      As your leader Putin said, “You know, they say here:“ If you rub every Russian properly, a Tatar will appear there ”.
      So you will not smoke at me, but Altynbay
      1. +3
        6 October 2015 18: 19
        Quote: Kolobok19
        as your leader Putin said

        Why Putin dragged, bun? winked
        Khutspa does not give rest, you lift up? laughing
        1. -2
          6 October 2015 18: 51
          Putin is your everything, isn't it? wassat
          1. +2
            6 October 2015 19: 06
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Putin is your everything, isn't it?


            So yes, no, and you know this. Yes

            But for Shlomo Dov-Ber Pinchos Lazar, yes tongue ! And it curls around GDP, weaves its own lace. smile
          2. +1
            6 October 2015 20: 09
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Putin is your everything, isn't it? wassat


            Well, and if yes, and then no, what is your "gesheft" ??
          3. +8
            7 October 2015 00: 12
            Quote: Kolobok19
            Putin is your everything, isn't it? wassat

            I did not guess. Vodka, bathhouse, accordion and our bear are all
      2. +11
        7 October 2015 00: 06
        А
        Quote: Kolobok19
        As your leader Putin said, “You know, they say here:“ If you rub every Russian properly, a Tatar will appear there ”.
        So you will not smoke at me, but Altynbay

        And as your leader Netanyahu said: If you scratch the bun, then you just get zilch.
      3. +1
        7 October 2015 02: 25
        Quote: Kolobok19
        "If you rub every Russian properly, there will be a Tatar


        and first said it to himself in excuse ethnic tatar Karamzin wink
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    1. 0
      6 October 2015 21: 04
      Prostofoly-Do you seriously think that we consider Russia an enemy? It’s only local couch generals who seriously think about this, but here you can’t help with anything, the diagnosis.
      1. -1
        12 October 2015 21: 00
        wanderer (1) IL
        no need to lie! Everything has been known about you for a long time!
  25. 740
    0
    6 October 2015 18: 17
    Quote: Kolobok19
    anyway, he kirdyk, and the inhabitants - the road overseas


    Don’t worry about us. So far, only the USSR has collapsedwassat

    Like hedgehog not to worry. Suddenly, the Islamic fascists will prevail over the Jewish kingdom, and they will send you to the oven. But you are no one, but you are still human.
    1. +1
      6 October 2015 18: 23
      Krasmash, the question is purely out of curiosity, why so many nicknames when you can be seen a mile away? wassat
      1. 740
        0
        6 October 2015 18: 30
        Quote: Dym71
        Krasmash, the question is purely out of curiosity, why so many nicknames when you can be seen a mile away? wassat

        You made a mistake guy, I don’t know Nikakov Krasmash. hi
        1. +1
          6 October 2015 18: 37
          Well, for 7-40 then! drinks
          1. 740
            +1
            6 October 2015 18: 47
            Quote: Dym71
            Well, for 7-40 then! drinks

            Well, it’s a sin not to drink for me, only right 740 drinks
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  26. +1
    6 October 2015 18: 59
    First of all, you don’t need it, because an attempt to attack our aircraft can turn into a war against Israel. And you don’t have to be a visionary to understand how deep the craters will be in the place of a very shallow, but too arrogant state. [/ Quote] It's just that such a battle is NOT NEITHER TO YOU AND NOT TO US either from the political or military side. [/ Quote]

    What kind of war? Which Israel? Here the Jews wrote above about Asss and the Air Force ... I know German aces, Russians, British, Japanese kamikazes there are no Israeli flyers on this list (do not be offended by robots), such a title must be earned by the feats and military work of more than a dozen years and the lives of thousands of pilots! !! So far, I have not heard of such heroes in the aircraft of the Promised Land good soldier What am I wrong request
    1. -2
      6 October 2015 19: 50
      Quote: rvsn90

      What kind of war? Which Israel? Here the Jews wrote above about Asss and the Air Force ... I know German aces, Russians, British, Japanese kamikazes there are no Israeli flyers on this list (do not be offended by robots), such a title must be earned by the feats and military work of more than a dozen years and the lives of thousands of pilots! !! So far, I have not heard of such heroes in the aircraft of the Promised Land good soldier What am I wrong request

      http://militera.lib.ru/h/zhirohov_ma01/index.html
      https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Военно-воздушные_силы_Израиля
      1. +1
        8 October 2015 05: 06
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        http://militera.lib.ru/h/zhirohov_ma01/index.html
        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Военно-воздушные_силы_Израиля

        You cannot praise yourself - no one will praise. All only aces look for much ... crying "40 years of continuous participation in conflicts" ... To drive the Egyptians along the only road in the desert, or to beat the Palestinians - is this "continuous participation"? Downed Soviet planes, you say? And what is there to be surprised - both shot down and shot down - in some military schools learned to fly. You would often recall not what you left in Russia, but what Russia gave to Israel.
    2. +4
      6 October 2015 19: 54
      One of the best pilots of Jewish nationality is the Honored Test Pilot of the USSR, Hero of the Soviet Union Mark Lazarevich Gallay. He was awarded eleven orders: three times awarded the Order of Lenin, four times awarded the Order of the Red Banner, twice awarded the Order of the Patriotic War I degree, the Order of the Red Star, the Order of the Badge of Honor, 15 medals.
      But he was not an Israeli, but a Soviet pilot.
    3. -3
      6 October 2015 20: 03
      [quote = rvsn90] First of all, you don’t need it, because an attempt to attack our planes could turn into a war against Israel. And you don’t have to be a visionary to understand how deep the craters will be in the place of a very shallow, but too arrogant state. [/ Quote] It's just that such a battle is NOT NEITHER TO YOU AND NOT TO US either from the political or military side. [/ Quote]

      What kind of war? Which Israel? Here the Jews wrote above about Asss and the Air Force ... I know German aces, Russians, British, Japanese kamikazes there are no Israeli flyers on this list (do not be offended by robots), such a title must be earned by the feats and military work of more than a dozen years and the lives of thousands of pilots! !! So far, I have not heard of such heroes in the aircraft of the Promised Land good soldier What am I wrong request[/ Quote]
      We have no heroes. We just have good pilots and you should not mess with them.
      1. +2
        8 October 2015 05: 09
        Quote: shat56
        We have no heroes. We just have good pilots and you should not mess with them.

        But the fact that? And try to scare someone? And that will be? Big Brother will come? Come on? Big Brother his point is more expensive than all the Israel of the world combined ...
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        2. -2
          8 October 2015 12: 39
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: shat56
          We have no heroes. We just have good pilots and you should not mess with them.

          But the fact that? And try to scare someone? And that will be? Big Brother will come? Come on? Big Brother his point is more expensive than all the Israel of the world combined ...

          And we do not scare anyone. Those who know what we are capable of do not come to us. And those who don’t know yet should not try
  27. -13
    6 October 2015 19: 47
    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
    Whether Israel will take the right side or not, all the same it kirdyk, and the inhabitants - the road overseas. But the chances of survival, in my opinion, are higher in the fight against ISIS.

    Actually, about "kirdyk" you would better be silent Kirdyk was from the USSR, you had a kirdyk in Afghanistan, you had a kirdyk in Chechnya (you still pay tribute to the Grozny khan), it would not be bad if you remember how you returned home. your pilots, shot down by Jewish pilots over Sinai and the Golan. So about the kirdyk, to whom he will come, you shouldn't even stutter.
    We don’t want a conflict and I’m sure that the smart people in your leadership do not want a conflict with us.
    1. +3
      6 October 2015 20: 05
      Quote: shat56
      Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Whether Israel will take the right side or not, all the same it kirdyk, and the inhabitants - the road overseas. But the chances of survival, in my opinion, are higher in the fight against ISIS.

      Actually, about "kirdyk" you would better be silent Kirdyk was from the USSR, you had a kirdyk in Afghanistan, you had a kirdyk in Chechnya (you still pay tribute to the Grozny khan), it would not be bad if you remember how you returned home. your pilots, shot down by Jewish pilots over Sinai and the Golan. So about the kirdyk, to whom he will come, you shouldn't even stutter.
      We don’t want a conflict and I’m sure that the smart people in your leadership do not want a conflict with us.

      laughing laughing laughing
      All good people swear. No kirdyk will be. We will all live laughing
      And the Jews really should be a little more modest. And then the dialect is already on an equal footing, if not higher than the "Exceptional" (the funny thing is, before the baboon named Baobab, even among amers this was rarely said laughing , about its exclusivity.)
      1. +2
        6 October 2015 20: 49
        Quote: Sterlya
        All good people swear.

        Yeah, how good they are, they draw us figvams!
        Quote: shat56
        still paying tribute to the Grozny Khan)

        Do we mean good? Now, just take a run. am

        So, shat56, can light in more detail for a tribute? It will be very interesting to get acquainted with the facts, even without taking into account the fact that you yourself supply water and electricity to the hateful FILYSTINS for free!
      2. +2
        8 October 2015 05: 18
        Quote: Sterlya
        And the Jews really should be a little more modest. And then the dialect is already on an equal footing, if not higher than the "Exceptional" (the funny thing is, before the baboon named Baobab, even among amers this was rarely said

        Those who are here shouting about the exclusivity of the "chosen by God" did not read the primary sources well. They think that God "chose" them as the best among all. But the shit there! They were "chosen" to take the rap for the sins of mankind and by their righteous life according to certain standards to prove to everyone that it is not necessary to sin. The Rothschilds Proved ... With Two World Wars ...
    2. 0
      12 October 2015 21: 11
      Well, you have completely beguiled the hike and do not see the edges !? Since they are so brave (all three Jews), let's see how you croak when, soon your "roof" in the face of amers will be gone! And then we will talk about Afghan and Chechnya and Syria !!!
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  29. 0
    6 October 2015 20: 34
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    On the first point, I agree 100%. And according to the second one, it’s possible to get into the mound.


    Yet another "chosen one" to rule the world! Were you invited to Syria or the UN issued a mandate to bomb Syria? Sit to yourself with the SGA in your stinking coalition and no one will touch you! Brave ones to kick a wounded lion, but how to get it yourself, you will have to do something. After our return, Israel may be reduced to Tel Aviv! So threaten your girlfriend with your finger! hi
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  30. +1
    6 October 2015 20: 40
    Announcers today announced on official Russian news channels that Russia has denied having pursued two Turkish planes with its MIG-29 plane, as the planes of this model were not flown to Syria.
    Question. Was there a boy? And the possible answer is yes! After all, there are a certain number of MIG-29s in the arsenal of NATO countries. So it is quite possible that there was a setup. If they had DRY - there would be a setup with SU - and so - they were blinded from what was.
  31. +4
    6 October 2015 20: 50
    "We survived! .. Terrorists accuse Russia ... of committing war crimes.
    Armed rebel groups fighting against the people and the legitimate government of Syria issued a joint statement on Russian air strikes. The statement is worth quoting excerpts from it.
    “Even if the Russian attack took place at the request of the Assad’s Syrian regime, this is aggression against Syria,” the Syrian “opposition” said. They say that “Assad’s regime has lost its legitimacy. Russian aircraft carried out attacks on the province of Homs, where nearly 50 civilians were killed. These are the first war crimes committed by Russia, ”the statement emphasizes.
    “It is alleged that the Russian Air Force bombed the Daesh command post, but in fact civilian settlements were bombed. The territorial integrity of Syria is our red line. We will not accept any draft Assad regime, implying the division of our land. "
    The statement was signed by 41 rebel groups, including terrorists from Ahrar al-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam and others. "

    And here is the statement of your "friends", whose colleagues are being treated in your Israeli and Turkish hospitals!
    So whose interests do you follow there - do you want to grab the Golan Heights violating the agreement on their demilitarization !?
    Those. you are so fighting against terrorists and for peace in BV, but you just were and there is an American slut who occasionally kicks up to create the appearance of his independence, but this is only for your housewives, alas! sad
    1. +1
      6 October 2015 21: 00
      Quote: Vlad5307
      So whose interests do you follow there - do you want to grab the Golan Heights violating the agreement on their demilitarization !?

      Oh yes. The territory of Israel has increased how much since its foundation? Slowly, slowly robbing neighbors. It is not good. When the world is already divided geographically. Do not consider a few unresolved issues.
      1. -3
        6 October 2015 21: 21
        Quote: Sterlya
        Quote: Vlad5307
        So whose interests do you follow there - do you want to grab the Golan Heights violating the agreement on their demilitarization !?

        Oh yes. The territory of Israel has increased how much since its foundation? Slowly, slowly robbing neighbors. It is not good. When the world is already divided geographically. Do not consider a few unresolved issues.

        The territory of Russia increased slightly from the moment of the coronation of the first Russian Tsar. Moreover, it increased after the creation of the Russian Federation in 1991.
        1. 0
          7 October 2015 06: 18
          we can do anything
        2. 0
          8 October 2015 22: 51
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          The territory of Russia increased slightly from the moment of the coronation of the first Russian Tsar. Moreover, it increased after the creation of the Russian Federation in 1991.

          These were other times, then the Britons were called Great Britain, (even the Netherlands was worth something).
          and after the 91st, so this is all ours, we want to return, we want not
  32. 0
    6 October 2015 21: 31
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Sterlya
    Quote: Vlad5307
    So whose interests do you follow there - do you want to grab the Golan Heights violating the agreement on their demilitarization !?

    Oh yes. The territory of Israel has increased how much since its foundation? Slowly, slowly robbing neighbors. It is not good. When the world is already divided geographically. Do not consider a few unresolved issues.

    The territory of Russia increased slightly from the moment of the coronation of the first Russian Tsar. Moreover, it increased after the creation of the Russian Federation in 1991.


    We can be us saviors, and we will be saved when the time comes.
  33. +1
    6 October 2015 22: 29
    “Russia began to transfer equipment to Latakia long before September 29. The first vehicles to guard the airport arrived in mid-August. These were Pantsiri, armored personnel carriers, Lynx. Then crews arrived, electronic warfare vehicles and other equipment were transferred. The Russian army did not participate in the battles. All this is speculation. The entire contingent of the Russian Federation was transferred solely to ensure the safety of the airbase. But I must admit that Russia borrowed some equipment to drive the militants out of the surrounding areas "...
    I remembered the BTR-82A and stuffing about "the fighting troops of the Russian Federation in Syrii".

    "Ha-ha. Well, how can I tell you. Yes and no. You know, they drove a jeep with missiles, like they even destroyed three of them. They drove them, put them at such a distance that the Russians couldn't reach them. Well, imagine, the airbase is covered there. artillery and powerful MLRS systems, not the same nonsense that the militants have on jeeps. If they did this within reach, they would be covered immediately. helped, the missiles would not have flown anyway. But Allah helps Assad. As soon as they launched the launch, the nearest Syrian checkpoint noticed them, and they were destroyed by the Syrian army's artillery strikes. That's the whole story. "
    I saw that video with militants shooting at our base from my cart. What can I say ... in general, do not come close to our base soldier
  34. 0
    7 October 2015 06: 16
    “This leadership made a fictitious threat real by arming and igniting an entire region,” a quote that accurately reflects US policy since Vietnam. Therefore, there is no need to sprinkle ashes on your head, the West will not appreciate it, and the current situation is much more complicated and dangerous for Russia.
  35. +2
    7 October 2015 09: 24
    Quote: Kolobok19
    Jews already existed when there were no Russians in the project yet. So don’t worry about us, paraphrasing what your leader Putin said, Israel will catch a cold at your funeral wassat


    The gospel of Matthew. Ch. 10, Art. 5-7. “And Andrei Ionin, his disciple, asked:“ Rabbi! what nations to bring the good news of the kingdom of heaven? ” And Jesus answered him: “Go to the nations of the east, to the nations of the west and to the nations of the south, where the sons of the house of Israel live. Do not go to the Gentiles of the north, for they are sinless and do not know the vices and sins of the house of Israel. ”
  36. +2
    7 October 2015 09: 31
    Politically and politically, in Syria, Russia needs a blitzkrieg there. Wait to throw stones. This is not the blitzkrieg of Russia, or even the blitzkrieg of Syria. This is a blitzkrieg AGAINST the symbiosis of terrorist groups that were created by the United States at different times and by different methods. And here there are 2 questions: 1) Will Russia be able to organize as quickly as possible an effective coalition of Assad - Kurds - Iran - possibly government Iraq, and that this coalition really works militarily. 2) Will it be possible to maximally, even super-maximally tough, come on, admit, cruelly roll on ALL anti-government groups in Syria within 1 month. In any case, these issues need to be resolved quickly, and Russia, Syria and potential allies now have no other way to the BV. Do what you must and come what may. The main thing, as Suvorov said, is "the eye, speed, onslaught." More than 200 years have passed - as it was said yesterday. The military actions of Prussia during the Bismarck era are also an excellent historical example. Who said that this is impossible? As much as possible. While Europe is "turned off" due to the fact that the owners of the United States have become insolent and have not calculated the side effects of "color revolutions" - that is why there really is 1 month.
  37. Bor
    0
    7 October 2015 12: 57
    Good interview! Gives an oil painting ...
  38. 0
    7 October 2015 14: 15
    Someone zaminusoval zhestusko ....
  39. 0
    7 October 2015 14: 28
    The Israelis feel in the sky of Syria as the masters, I tell you this as a former pilot of the Syrian Air Force.



    Strange people, these same "Israelis". There was a non-illusory chance to prove that by and large they are positive peppers. But...
    As it is all quite expected. request
  40. 0
    7 October 2015 14: 49
    With the existing hands-on the next 10 years of Syria, it was not up to Israel. With any development of events. Now Israelis would be happy .. By the way, Egypt for the coming years 5 is also not up to Israel. And Lebanon and Saudi Arabia and Qatar - all have a cloud of problems. And their permission is not viewed categorically. But the Israelis are not in a hurry to rejoice. Yes
  41. +2
    7 October 2015 15: 29
    1. Israel itself admits that it is only hypothetically possible to speak of a real level of preparation for air battles with an enemy that is not inferior, and in this case superior in terms of aviation technology. No experience for a very, very long time. Bombing the Palestinians and Hezbollah is one thing, but fighting a well-trained pilot in a 4 ++ aircraft is another. The same can be said about the USA, Russia, China and everyone, everyone, everyone.
    2. They were scared and fled - the height of idiocy. What should they do? Take a fight? What for? In honor of what? And ours did not fly away from Turkey when they raised F 16? Are you from Ukraine?
    3. Afghanistan - again, all for the old ... The USSR went there intending to quickly solve the limited tasks of bringing everyone to a common denominator. The USA, NATO, China, Pakistan, all Arabs have united to solve their global or small-town tasks. Extreme were local.
    There was such an anecdote: "TASS reported: On the Afghan front over the past week, the losses amounted to: Soviet troops - 150 people, American troops - 70 people, British - 12 people, Chinese - 500 people, from the Afghan side 1 person killed - do not need to meddle in your business. !!! "
    Not so far from the truth. Tales of Boers, etc. with which the Dekhans defeated the Soviet machine - for liberal freaks. The United States has muddied and brewed such porridge that so far everyone has not disintegrated.
    Arabs are suckers of the 20th and beginning of the 21st century. They have oil, gas, but most get nothing. They are very well born and do not know what to do with this. From this poverty and complete chaos in the brain, they really go crazy and cut everyone in a row. This is a very long time. 50 planes will not be able to restore order in the heads of millions, although they can send several thousand of the most gifted to visit Allah.
  42. +2
    7 October 2015 18: 38
    Interview with ex-Syrian Air Force officer. The first. Were there Israeli F-15, is there any C-300 at the air base and other


    Honestly, I didn’t understand why a journalist asks a retired pilot such a question about the s-300 or s-400. It was so clear that these systems were not there. And now, after the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces, this pilot cannot know, he retired. Even if he knows, but does not have the right to talk about it. This is a state secret. The military know what happens if it is revealed.
    What did they do in Syria that night?
    How can a retired military officer know what the task of the Israeli F-15 Pilots is? In general, only intelligence services could know this. The retired pilot was not and is not in the intelligence service.

    Was there any fight? I mean, did the Su-30 take the F-15?


    Well, it generally goes beyond all bounds)))


    Frankly, the author is an amateur. My eternal opponent, Elena Gromova, wrote much better than he did. She could be forgiven. She is a woman who did not serve, did not know the intricacies of military affairs.
    1. 0
      7 October 2015 23: 26
      Well, there was still the coolest pearl about the Soviet marines on Soviet tanks liberating almost together with the marines from the US port in Africa. And what the Marine from the USA said about this - they say we are weaklings against the Russians, the nefig is even curious, they immediately pile on us, and we have a Negro president.
    2. -2
      8 October 2015 19: 48
      Quote: lonely
      Frankly, the author is an amateur. My eternal opponent, Elena Gromova, wrote much better than he did. She could be forgiven. She is a woman who did not serve, did not know the intricacies of military affairs.

      You are a ray of light in the realm of darkness of ignorance, stupidity and swagger.
  43. 0
    7 October 2015 19: 10
    It seems that I already read it last year, only instead of Syria, Ukraine was written.
  44. +1
    7 October 2015 21: 24
    Health, courage and success to the Syrian brothers! Get well soon Jamal!
  45. Ruskiy
    +1
    7 October 2015 23: 34
    Good luck to our guys! We are waiting for the corpse of al-baghdadi.
  46. -1
    9 October 2015 13: 05
    What would anyone say here. But so far the picture is this: in the event of a confrontation between the Israeli Air Force and Russia (which is unlikely), several Russian aircraft will confront hundreds of Israeli aircraft. So far, in any case, the picture is as follows.