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Defense Ministry is looking for ways to reduce the facts of evasion by reservists from military training

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What can threaten a person who is in the (military) stock today if he ignores the agenda of the military commissariat, which calls him to undergo military training? If a person called up for military training did not receive a subpoena (declared non-receipt) - she did not sign in the corresponding column of the “book of reservists”, then the sanctions from the state can be called not just liberal, but simply ridiculous. Such a person expects a fine in the amount of (attention!) 500 rubles. In other words, a person (well, if we speak only about irresponsible representatives of the society), who is in reserve and called for fees, is enough to pay a fine of 500 rubles for today, announcing that he did not receive any agenda, because registration, and from fees "hang out".


A harsher punishment awaits the objector to pass the fees, if he received such an agenda from the military registration and enlistment office (officially). In this case, responsibility is defined as for a soldier who evades the performance of official duties. It is clear that in this case the responsibility may be criminal. However, so far in the judicial system of the Russian Federation precedents for criminal prosecution for evading military training did not exist. The fact is that military commissariats representing law enforcement agencies (in the field) are not ready to enter into litigation - what is called more expensive.

How come the military commissars out of the current situation with actual impunity for the “otkazniks” from going through military training? One would assume that there are only a few of these (“mowers”), and all the rest are exclusively conscious citizens, but unfortunately, this is far from being the case. According to the staff of the military commissariats, they are “saved” by the fact that a small number of reservists (7-8 thousand) are involved in military gathering. Military registration and enlistment offices are in a position to provide such a number of reservists at assembly points, however, here too, staff of military registration and enlistment offices have to take certain measures. It turns out that only one reservist from 4-5 can be attributed to the number of conscious ones, and therefore, to attract reservists to the collection of fees, the number of agendas sent to the same 4-5 is higher than the required number of reservists. The military registration and enlistment offices act, as they say, with a reserve: if “extra” comes, they will simply be sent home.

For reference. The list of categories in which the law provides for exemption from the passage of military charges:
Information about those who are exempt from fees:

1. From citizenship exempted female citizens;
2. From military charges are also exempt:
a) citizens, reserved for state authorities, local governments and organizations for the period of mobilization and in wartime;
b) employees of the internal affairs bodies, the State Fire Service, institutions and bodies of the penitentiary system, organs for controlling the circulation of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances and customs authorities of the Russian Federation;
c) civilian personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military units and bodies, as well as internal affairs agencies, the State Fire Service, institutions and bodies of the penitentiary system, narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances control authorities and customs authorities of the Russian Federation ;
d) flight technical staff, as well as workers and employees of aviation and railway transport, directly carrying out and providing transportation or engaged in the maintenance and repair of airplanes (helicopters), airfield equipment, rolling stock and railway transport devices;
e) the floating composition of ships of the sea fleet, as well as the floating composition of the river fleet and the fishing industry fleet - during the navigation period;
f) citizens who are directly involved in sowing and harvesting work - during the period of such work;
g) citizens who are pedagogical workers of educational institutions;
h) citizens studying full-time and part-time (evening) forms of education in educational institutions;
i) citizens enrolled in correspondence courses in educational institutions - for the period of examination and test sessions and writing a thesis;
j) citizens dismissed from military service - within two years from the date of transfer to the reserve;
k) citizens with three or more minor children;
m) citizens who have grounds for postponement of conscription for military service;
m) citizens staying outside the Russian Federation;
o) members of the Council of Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, senior officials of the subjects of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power of the subjects of the Russian Federation), citizens temporarily acting as the highest official of the subject of the Russian Federation (head of the highest executive bodies of state power of the subject of the Russian Federation) ;
o) citizens who, in accordance with the established procedure, submitted legislative (representative) bodies of state power of the subjects of the Russian Federation as candidates for the highest officials of the subjects of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power of the subjects of the Russian Federation) - until a decision is taken to reject the submitted candidate or to allot its powers as the highest official of the subject of the Russian Federation (the head of the highest executive body of the power of the subject of the Russian Federation);
p) citizens who have undergone alternative civilian service.


The existing law states that people in military service may be brought to military training for up to 2 months, but not more than 12 months for the entire time they are in reserve.

Defense Ministry is looking for ways to reduce the facts of evasion by reservists from military training


Understanding that the fine in 500 rubles for draft dodgers from passing military gatherings looks ridiculous, government agencies decided to take the path of toughening (now fashionable word) sanctions.

So, according to the newspaper "News", the Ministry of Defense is proposing to introduce a new article of the Code of Administrative Offenses, which will be referred to as “Avoidance for military training”. The initiative assumes that for the reservist’s evasion of military training, he can be expected to be fined from 10 to 20 thousand rubles, and for those who have signed a so-called mobilization contract (a contract for which a person is expected to be in the mobilization human reserve) - and 50 thousand rubles. The number of human mobilization reserve of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, according to the latest data, does not exceed 9 thousand people.

10 and 20 thousand rubles are, of course, not 500 rubles, like today, but certainly not the amounts that can really frighten the unconscious part of reservists. But why, in this case, does not focus on the growth of fines to even more impressive values ​​for draft dodgers from military training? The reason is that with the existing state of affairs, a conscious person after receiving the summons will come to the military commissariat himself, but the unconscious will not only ignore the fees, but also the fines with which the court will award him. In this regard, the Ministry of Defense is trying to find, if it is possible to express itself in this situation, the "golden mean" - the amount of the fine is not purely symbolic, but it does not fall on a person’s shoulders either.

But the main thing is not fine. The main thing is that the Ministry of Defense wants to go along the path of increasing the motivation of the population, full information. The defense ministry is going to involve in the leadership of regional recruiting campaigns (and in relation to reservists, too) not ordinary representatives, namely, heads of local governments. We are talking about the governors and the heads of the regions (governors). In other words, the heads of municipalities and subjects of the Federation of the Ministry of Defense intend to attract increased motivation among the population for military service (fees) - whether it is an 18-year-old boy or an accomplished man who served a “deferral” 20 years ago. That is, not only representatives of the defense department, but also local authorities should inform citizens that they are kept at the time of military training, the average salary at the place of main work, plus salary paid for being in a military post, based on the material support of a contract military soldier . In addition, the leaders of municipalities and regions should increase motivation by doing everything so that the employer does not bypass the law, but retains jobs for reservists who are called for training.

The activities of the regional authorities of the Ministry of Defense paid special attention during the recent large-scale exercises Center-2015 and previous combat training exercises. As is known, the supreme commander set before the Defense Ministry the task of establishing contact with regional authorities in order to verify the possibilities of mobilization. Official data on this segment of the exercise were presented very sparingly, but as far as it was found out, the Defense Ministry is not yet ready to put the representatives of the local authorities for their work “in a team” (for conducting the exercises) to a satisfactory assessment. The local authorities have a large field for efforts to eliminate errors and omissions.

Now regional authorities will be more actively involved in the work of a mobilization nature, and this front of work must also become one of the indicators of the effectiveness of local authorities.
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  1. Fox
    Fox 6 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +10
    a friend went to training camps. melancholy sadness. and vodka. a lot of vodka. non-breathtaking retrains from idleness and frankly stupid officers who do not know what to do. yes, he also bought his uniform ... what was offered, it was simply impossible to put on. ... I learned what bigus is. in short, it was cool. Syzran, the year 2010. as of now, I don’t know.
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    2. lukke
      lukke 6 October 2015 11: 54 New
      +6
      in general, the author confuses reservists (according to which the law was adopted two or three years ago, but there is no phased regulation of its application on the ground) with the usual practice of calling for the collection of reserves. These are different things, because the reservist signs a contract with the appropriate payment and is recruited for service to the assigned military unit on a regular basis, sort of like a couple of days a month. At least there was a similar announcement.
      But as for the fees, I’ll say this - whoever wants vodka badly will get it on his lip. I myself was at the training camp last year - the training program (personally nothing new for me - was rather weak), but everything else: food, living conditions - a solid “good!”. There was an opportunity to do physically every day - it became vigorous in the fresh air as in the best school years)))
      1. Mahmut
        Mahmut 6 October 2015 14: 26 New
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        I think the problem is far-fetched. To abandon a 2-week vacation at the expense of the state is not the fate of irresponsible citizens, but frankly stupid. Is it worth it to drive them into the army - I doubt it. Moreover, on weekends they were always allowed to go home, paid according to the average at work + paid on the lowest level as an officer. And in modern times, a good amount was running.
        But recently, another jamb has appeared. In the summons they write "to appear outside working hours." And then indicate the working hours of the draft board from 8-00 to 17-00. day off saturday sunday. That's how you want them and understand.
    3. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 6 October 2015 20: 22 New
      +5
      I don’t like such articles during the period of our triumphant attack on ISIS.
  2. shimus
    shimus 6 October 2015 06: 56 New
    +13
    Damn, where is the DEFENSE recruiting reservists !!!!!! ????
    2 personally went to the military registration and enlistment office, even brought a clipping from the law to them to go to the training camp, to gain health, so to speak, so they sent me all these 2 times !!!
    Ministry of Defense, WHERE ARE YOU ?????
    Well, pay attention to the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug !!!!
    I am an ordinary reserve with higher education, I served urgently having a diploma in my hands. Now I wanted to get the rank of reserve lieutenant, since I have the right to do so by law, having passed the mandatory military training, because after all, DO NOT TAKE !!!!!!
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 6 October 2015 08: 39 New
      +3
      Health in the partisans ..)))), I beg you, you can leave the kidneys with the liver there, and bring the ulcer home! Except for Bukhalov there is nothing else, a rare part will give the partisans a chance to shoot !!!
      1. yegor_k
        yegor_k 6 October 2015 09: 24 New
        +5
        We were in 2002, I brought all the organs intact ... Shooting, including night shots, jumps, TSPs - everything was ... They fed me, it’s also not bad .... But you need to plump less, it prefers :)
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        1. Starshina wmf
          Starshina wmf 6 October 2015 13: 13 New
          +1
          With 17 kg, underweight in the special forces is cool. It was a pity it wasn’t before. I remember trying to give money to the officer accompanying the group of conscripts so that the fellow countryman would take his brother and his brother to the special forces VV. He didn’t take any horseradish. was. In 7 it was.
    2. Tartary
      Tartary 6 October 2015 12: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: shimus
      2 personally went to the military registration and enlistment office, even brought a clipping from the law to them to go to the training camp, to gain health, so to speak, so they sent me all these 2 times !!!
      Ministry of Defense, WHERE ARE YOU ?????

      So I am surprised - I went to change the VUS three or two years ago, asked: -Well, take me ... I left the numbers - they asked ... They promised to call and call for training soon ...
      So the hell there ... it never happened. Sadness ...
      I can’t understand how you can refuse military training, unless for good reason or a woman’s character?
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 6 October 2015 14: 35 New
        +4
        I can’t understand how you can refuse military training, unless for good reason or a woman’s character?


        Personally, if I try to call again, I will send it through the forest. The reason is commonplace. In 2005, he was at a training camp in the railway brigade at the 2 th Khabarovsk. 10 days stupidly KMB, the same as at the training camp after college before taking the oath. So why should I, if I have the rank of reserve lieutenant of 10 days to stupid in a barracks position in a soldier’s hb-shk with screwed stars, doing marching, running and walking in the park with a view to glare at the equipment standing there? Well, we also went to the shooting range of 12 cartridges with AK + especially for our company 6 cartridges with PM, for my standing on the goal during the football tournament between the companies, which impressed the unit commander.
        I would love to go to the training camp if I were called upon for my position. To begin with, it would be nice to find out who I recorded as the commander of a mobile workshop or the commander of a mechanized platoon. At least - the company officer could not intelligently answer this question. Then gather the people who are attributed with me and carry out the re-preservation, maintenance and testing of the notorious workshop or those small-scale mechanization devices that are assigned to me by state in my platoon. Collect the lash of the upper structure of the path. This is what I understand - fees that will benefit. And so, stupidly treading the parade ground and thumping to the point where one of the "partisans" almost drowned in a ditch, sticking his head into it when he climbed over the fence "behind vodka" - what a blessing.
  3. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 6 October 2015 07: 01 New
    +1
    Can the Israelis learn? There, this business is very well organized and works without hesitation. The main reason is that there is a very big discrepancy between the local authorities and the military in the reluctance to do anything either. Nobody wants to take on anything, including initiative .., for a well-known reason ... Formalism reigns everywhere.
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 6 October 2015 08: 07 New
      +2
      Can the Israelis learn? There, this business is very well organized and works without hesitation. The main reason is that there is a very big discrepancy between the local authorities and the military in the reluctance to do anything either. Nobody wants to take on anything, including initiative .., for a well-known reason ... Formalism reigns everywhere.


      Then, with the Americans, the contractor enters into a contract for 10 years and decides how much to serve in the regular army, and how much in reserve (say 2 and 8 years or 6 and 4 years). This category replenishes the Army reserve-replenishment of units and formations to the states wartime and replenishment of losses in warring units.
      Separately, the National Guard, 2 days a month and 1 month a year, can be involved in conducting military operations for 1 year. In the NG 70% of the units and formations of the US Armed Forces support.
      December 30, 2012 N 288-ФЗ "On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation on the Establishment of a Mobilization Personnel Reserve" adopted a law on the creation of a professional reserve, and it makes sense to train it in the first place.
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 6 October 2015 08: 37 New
      0
      Israel is doing well with the reservists for a completely different reason, and not because of the connections of military commissars with the local authorities!
    3. Hello
      Hello 6 October 2015 12: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Tartar 174
      Can the Israelis learn? There, this business is very well organized and works without hesitation. The main reason is that there is a very big discrepancy between the local authorities and the military in the reluctance to do anything either. Nobody wants to take on anything, including initiative .., for a well-known reason ... Formalism reigns everywhere.

      I don’t agree with Israel that everything is well organized because it is a matter of life and death for the state. Add to this a huge difference in the size of countries and in the population. In general, the Israeli doctrine implies that in the event of a large-scale war it is the reservists who will be the striking force, the task of the regular army is to hold on for at least 24 hours.
  4. Owl
    Owl 6 October 2015 08: 29 New
    +2
    In addition to administrative responsibility and fines, it is also necessary to introduce a defeat in some of the rights of citizens: going abroad, the right to occupy, in subsequent years, administrative positions in the bodies of the State. authorities, positions in local self-government and the right to run for elected bodies of authority, opening of "one's own" enterprise (business). In addition, for repeated evasion of passage - there should be criminal liability, albeit a short period, from 6 months to 1 year, but without any parole, house arrests and deferrals of execution.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 6 October 2015 21: 44 New
      +1
      - ... And also - the proceeds of the fines through the fines to send to the bonus l \ s passing fees smile
  5. Kazakh
    Kazakh 6 October 2015 08: 31 New
    +3
    Defense Ministry is looking for ways to reduce the facts of evasion by reservists from military training
    They’re not looking there. Our Cossacks held training camps on the basis of the Aleisk motorized rifle because of problems with working with people, we had to limit the training to 3 days in place 10 by more than one military commissar .. it didn’t help to provide a statement about the call for work officially.
  6. Traveller
    Traveller 6 October 2015 09: 21 New
    0
    I don’t know how in Russia, in Kazakhstan, a madhouse, this year at first they wanted to call me to training camps in August, they didn’t give me a clear vacation, I didn’t manage to leave, then I was postponed to the end of September, 2 months because of them I didn’t really work, per day dispatches at the collection point said that I was not eating, there were no words.
  7. 2s5giacints
    2s5giacints 6 October 2015 09: 29 New
    +3
    an article about reservists from the parallel world. I haven’t been summoned for 10 years in reserve. During this time I was 3 times in the military enlistment office (removed and registered), I asked, when will we go to the partisan? And in response to silence ... they make round eyes to the question about mobreserve mobrezerv ??? not, did not hear ..
  8. shimus
    shimus 6 October 2015 09: 45 New
    0
    Quote: igorka357
    Health in the partisans ..)))), I beg you, you can leave the kidneys with the liver there, and bring the ulcer home! Except for Bukhalov there is nothing else, a rare part will give the partisans a chance to shoot !!!

    It’s not even a matter of “shooting,” but that I will have a LOT of free time that I can spend with MUCH pleasure on the sports camp, obstacle course or in the gym, as in civil life, I have 2 jobs for this just no time !!!
    And I can shoot at home, I have weapons no worse than the army.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 6 October 2015 13: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: shimus
      It’s not even a matter of “shooting,” but that I will have a LOT of free time that I can spend with MUCH pleasure on the sports camp, obstacle course or in the gym, as in civil life, I have 2 jobs for this just no time !!!

      come on... wassat Drive to the farthest point, give out dry land and forget
      I remember at the training camp they gave me a platoon, so the sergeants and I searched for them for two days in the taiga, until we found drunken dead in the dugout 25 km from the part, which is part of the way because it turned out to be there was a fuel and lubricant warehouse there.
  9. AVATA-ta-R-in
    AVATA-ta-R-in 6 October 2015 10: 01 New
    +3
    partisans partisan strife !!! during the period of service under the contract, annually, from 100 to 1500 people arrived, by the way the last figure was in 2008, it was rumored that they had scored them for every fireman in front of Ossetia, and so there were amateurs and ordinary soldiers, but there were uncles which in a month restored gsp55 to a condition just from the factory. but they don’t carry me a summons, I’ve been waiting for 5 years already, I would go with pleasure!
  10. Warrior 61
    Warrior 61 6 October 2015 10: 49 New
    +8
    I have been in stock since 2009. Lieutenant after the military department at the university.
    In 2013, the training camp was held. The duration of the fees was 1 month. Like other officers, I arrived at the unit 5 days before the arrival of the personnel. At the training camp were from junior lieutenant to major. After 5 days, took the staff. At the training camp there were 30 officers and about 200 (from privates to foremen)
    There were no drunks (there were attempts).
    Approximately everything was according to the charter.
    Classes were held.
    Two times there were firing from AK.
    The officers once from the PM.
    It all depends on the unit commander how the charges are held. In addition, as I understand it, photo reports were made and sent.
    Food at 5.
    5- Organization
    Uniform for 2 (Everything is very old and worn)
    At work, earnings remained, plus received a monthly salary at the training camp.
    I liked everything would go again!
    Looking at the increasing number of recent exercises, I had thoughts about why not conduct exercises on mobilization? For example, in a separate region. Maybe they will even fail ... We must work in this direction. And if tomorrow is war .....
    1. 31R-US
      31R-US 6 October 2015 18: 13 New
      +1
      Two times there were firing from AK.
      The officers once from the PM.

      For joy, my brains would probably explode.
      It's just ridiculous for a month to distract a person from family, work, to shoot one time from the PM.
      I believe that if they call, then everything should be at the maximum level. Shooting every day, I admit every other day. To acquaint and shoot not only with AK, because we also have PPSh for conservation, machine guns, etc. And just go for a month, to stand on the nightstand and shout at the fifth decade, "the company duty officer on the way out," I personally don’t want to, and after reading the previous comments I’d better pay a fine. This is my opinion. I AM FOR fees with two hands, but not for stupid pastime. hi
      I ask you not to put a lot of minuses, not long ago I got a starling fellow
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 6 October 2015 18: 29 New
        0
        .This is my opinion. I am FOR training with two hands, but not for stupid pastime. hi

        Training camps are not shooting games, but training according to the WMR. What is the use of shooting every day to a future officer of a rem company or an OBMO?
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  12. ddd1975
    ddd1975 6 October 2015 10: 57 New
    +1
    After the first training camp, I was delighted with the pig ... It coincided with joint exercises with the Americans. How many then asked so more and did not send. So I’ll probably remain an old stock ... Mr. Shoigu, please, pliz - at least for two weeks ...
  13. Bayun
    Bayun 6 October 2015 11: 16 New
    +2
    Our mobile system is ready ... by 1941. As we see today, the war is "at home." And you either mobilize yourself, or run away.
  14. Aviaded
    Aviaded 6 October 2015 12: 49 New
    +7
    Previously, during the USSR, the storekeepers were regularly called to the medical board (my father was called several times in my memory). As a result of which changes were made in the personal file of the storeroom. Up until deregistration, if a person due to health reasons could no longer fulfill the duties of his VUS. I have been in the reserve since 1988, after the discharge to the reserve from military service. Over the years, no one called me to the medical board. My colleagues (those with whom we keep in touch) and friends of my age, too. Hence the conclusion that the whole system of military registration in the country is not good for the worst. For if something happened, it’s not clear who can be counted on, and who will throw away the hooves after a few steps, being equipped with a “full calculation”.
    Regarding motivation ... Given that a lot of people get their salaries "in envelopes", the desire of adults to "slope" is quite understandable. For if compensation for wages will be paid, then only in the amount of official misery. And people need to feed their families. Some people cannot afford to “shut off” production for two months. For they can engage in work of key importance to their enterprise. Their withdrawal from production can lead to large losses for the enterprise. Who will compensate for this? Far from all offices can “book” workers. This is especially true of private business. Talk that "you need to be prepared to protect your homeland from the attack of an adversary" in peacetime will not work.
    Toughening penalties for tax evasion is a dead end. He will not lead to anything good. You should completely abandon this crap with the fees of all in a row, if only to implement the plan. Contracts should be made with storage workers who wish to do so and have those higher education institutions in which maintaining skills requires more or less regular training and retraining. Provide them with benefits, etc., but even for them it’s just to establish a strict responsibility for evasion. There will be many times more benefits from this.
    Consideration should also be given to organizing "weekend fees." It seems that there are many people who are ready to shake the old days off: to shoot and control military equipment. Of course, this is not possible for all HUS and not in all areas. But if this is possible somewhere, then why not organize it! And there is no use for business and harm for the family budget and production.
  15. PSih2097
    PSih2097 6 October 2015 13: 16 New
    0
    It will be shorter as always - "The idea for 5+, execution for 1-"
    Woncomats will start twitching only when the roasted cock pecks in the ass,
    Quote: Bayun
    Our mobile system is ready ... by 1941. As we see today, the war is "at home." And you either mobilize yourself, or run away.

    correctly said, plus him for that.
    we need to change the mobilization system in the bud, I wonder how much time the Russian Federation will need, so that if something happens, switch to other rails (from peaceful to military)
    1. poglydim
      poglydim 19 December 2016 06: 44 New
      0
      After the collapse of the union and the need for import substitution, how much time has passed?
  16. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 6 October 2015 13: 20 New
    +1
    They called one time after serving in the Navy for a medical examination and that’s all. They said the next time after 3 years. And they covered themselves with a copper basin. Now I'm not subject to mob. fees because I work in the FPS. But do not mind to pass the fees.
  17. Vladimir
    Vladimir 6 October 2015 13: 57 New
    0
    And I think that it would not hurt the Russian military commissars to benefit from the bitter experience of Ukraine. Tell us more people, so the border length is longer and the current time is not calm.
  18. APS
    APS 6 October 2015 17: 08 New
    +4
    I was at the training camp a few years ago - I liked it. Not in the barracks position, in the evening - home. Abstracts were written, they studied the technique, even then there was something like exams. Since we went home all night to sleep - there were no drunkards. So I am for fees, but the fees are short-lived - for example, no more than two weeks, with living at home and, as they say, short and to the point, notes, exams, practical exercises, but I think it’s necessary to punish very hard for the booze, which wouldn’t be ...
    1. poglydim
      poglydim 19 December 2016 06: 42 New
      0
      ...... of course everyone’s business, but there’s no desire to waste your time, it would be for anyone ...
  19. Geological prospecting
    Geological prospecting 6 October 2015 18: 25 New
    +1
    At the training camp after the institute, they kicked the bulldozer, before them at least honey. The commission was sensible. Some still thanks to that honey. the commissions say, because they did not give health to ditch. After who did not ask, except freezing bribes to the draft board never pulled. As soon as a person is scheduled a business trip abroad or departure, God forbid, notify the military registration and enlistment office = ((((immediately you need to urgently go to the training camp ....
    He himself needed to be dumped abroad for a month to study, so they spent a month on me with a certificate for a passport, so that I’m going from production and for introducing our technologies, as they have been working over the hill for a long time. The result itself had to be raked with a bunch of literature and "thank" the military commissar for all the rush.
    the training was a separate topic: my acquaintances had a case, at 15:00 a guy was taken away to the training camp, in the morning the body was found outside the unit on the railway road, they stated death 23:00 a day later.
    It has recently been trying to break the situation and put the system in order, only real changes in the work of the same military commissariats are not very noticeable.
    I'd like to make mistakes and hope that the situation is better than it seems ....
  20. 31R-US
    31R-US 6 October 2015 20: 34 New
    +1
    I would very much like to have dinner at the training camp with children from the paragraphs of the article “O” and “P”. I really want to offer red caviar for breakfast, but I refused wassat laughing
  21. saygon66
    saygon66 6 October 2015 21: 33 New
    0
    - laughing - “God didn’t horn a cheerful cow ...” No one bothered with 97 ... MO, in the person of military registration and enlistment offices, heroically overcomes difficulties, catching “refuseniks” and kicking those who want to “keep fit”! Mb do they receive a bonus for each captured draft evader?
  22. Petr7
    Petr7 6 October 2015 22: 12 New
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    I personally wonder why medical factors are not indicated? In addition, here we have an organization, the “Heat Energy Complex”, under the USSR and, it seems, until 2000 there was general reservation even for the period of the war. Now they seem to have been canceled, but here we really never called anyone to the training camp, well, actually (in our organization there are more than 2 million employees). But the list of articles of our service is not - strange
  23. lubesky
    lubesky 7 October 2015 02: 36 New
    0
    Everyone has their own reasons, I have my own. At the age of 18, he voluntarily joined the army, honestly drifted 2 years, he repaid his debt. As for the fees, I don’t shy away, I honestly come to the military registration and enlistment office and remind you that I paid the debt to the main homeland, and I have no desire to partisan, and I also remind you that the daily allowance was not paid to me and most of the contract soldiers of the CPKF peacekeepers, the venerable generals threw banal boys. At the military registration and enlistment office they listen to me attentively and promise each time that they will no longer bother ...
  24. Mikhalychch
    Mikhalychch 7 October 2015 03: 09 New
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    I was at training camps back in the times of the USSR in Khabarovsk, so they suddenly decided to retrain me from navigators to fleet navigators, although I continued to navigate in civilian again, why I didn’t understand such an effort. It’s an extra waste of time and money of the state. hired-basic, but why else should they spend money on some kind of retraining of people who are not interested at all, respectively, and there will be such training, maybe the military commanders can’t get anywhere?
  25. shimus
    shimus 7 October 2015 06: 19 New
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    It’s not even a matter of “shooting,” but that I will have a LOT of free time that I can spend with MUCH pleasure on the sports camp, obstacle course or in the gym, as in civil life, I have 2 jobs for this just no time !!!

    come on... wassat Drive to the farthest point, give out dry land and forget
    I remember at the training camp they gave me a platoon, so the sergeants and I searched for them for two days in the taiga, until we found drunken dead in the dugout 25 km from the part, which is part of the way because it turned out to be there was a fuel and lubricant warehouse there.

    I can’t get used to wandering through the taiga either, just as I live in Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, there are swamps all around and taiga impassable! So this option is also normal! ДСББшников train so urgently and nothing ...
  26. olegator
    olegator 7 October 2015 14: 18 New
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    reserve officer himself. I don’t know what about draft dodgers, but about five years since I try to get to the training camp (there is such a not very burning need). I call the draft board and I am interested in this issue regularly. There is only one answer - there have been no orders for officers for a long time.