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They got into a mess: the default of Ukraine was officially recognized by the world community

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Every time it seems to traitors that "the West is strong, and this time it will definitely win." And not to be this, because for us the Truth, and this win.


They got into a mess: the default of Ukraine was officially recognized by the world communityWell, do you jump, overseas?

They wanted to quickly sell their homeland, values, fraternity, history, identity and even sexual orientation, and by blood and betrayal to escape to well-fed Europe, having received along the way my thirty pieces of silver?

They wanted to, you can not lie - the predominant sociology showed that about half of Ukrainians dreamed of leaving the country for good, but did not have the opportunity for this. And most of all, the young, “children of independence”, wanted to leave, before 25 years (data from the same sociology). To do this, you needed a visa-free regime — your only real “value” for which you were ready to burn the “golden eagles” and kill the children of Donbass.

Patriots they poop, hypocritical clowns. Well, at least you don't need to deceive yourself, because the rest of your hourly waving with rags has not been impressive for a long time.

Nothing you, morons, history does not teach. Because the same traitors as you, in the history of Russia have already been. While Novgorod was preparing for the Battle of the Ice, the Pskov merchants tried to surrender to the Teutonic Order, after which the Germans burned the local town, looted the city, killed many, and took many slaves.

Then there were the events described by Gogol in Taras Bulba. There, too, were their “Andria”, who were executed for their treachery.

Then Mazepa tried to go under the Swedes, swearing allegiance to Peter the Great. Then Skoropadsky lay under the Germans. Then Bandera laid down under the Nazis. And they all ended badly.

They all lost by choosing the losing side. Every time it seems to traitors that "the West is strong, and this time it will definitely win." And not to be this, because for us the Truth, and this win.

I have been saying to you, morons, for almost two years: you should not mess with the “West”, especially with the Anglo-Saxons. The Irish, who have been living with them for almost a thousand years, have a saying, “Fear the serpents' fangs, the horns of a bull, and the smile of an Englishman.” It was necessary to learn history in school, but not to ride! The West has always promised, but never kept its promises. He used, robbed, betrayed, and then sold, merged or even killed his puppets. Begging for natural resources, Europe has always traveled at the expense of looting in other regions, starting with the crusades.

So it was in Asia, so it was in Africa, so it was in Latin America, so it was everywhere. For several centuries. They even have special hypocritical terms for this, such as “realpolitik” or “mercantilism”. How do you morons, have the idea that you are special and you will be honest?

You sold Ukraine for cookies, merged the sovereignty of your country, allowed all key posts to be taken by American puppets, split the country, started a civil war, spread terry Russophobia, built a system of total lies, killed tens of thousands of civilians, donated tens of thousands of their punitive fighters. They broke off all the historical, cultural, industrial, commercial, transport and even family ties with the Russians of Russia.

And all for what? What did you get as a result? GDP for two years fell by half. Exports to Europe, where you were so eager, fell by 40-60% (depending on the country). In debt, as in silks. Salaries in purchasing power have fallen three times, utility payments have increased several times, the number of unemployed has increased by several million, the number of beggars has increased even more.

Ukraine entered the twenty countries where massacres are possible, thousands of people are imprisoned for their convictions (political prisoners), many are murdered, thousands of armed and indefinite “patriots” armed and robbing and murdering are rummaging around the country. You are even ready to kiss the gangs of thugs from the IG. You hate, call for murder and torture, write millions of denunciations. You have lost the remnants of humanity.

And what did you get for your betrayal? The International Swaps and Derivatives Association (ISDA) has officially recognized Ukraine’s refusal to fulfill its obligations to creditors. The meeting of the standing committee ISDA decided to recognize the technical default of Ukraine from October 4 2015.

Tellingly, ISDA includes the largest US banks 15. Your masters, whose slaves you voluntarily decided to be two years ago, have merged you.

Visa free regime you? Cheap loans to you? Modern technology to you? Investing you? New jobs for you? Male sexual organ to you! You are not even allowed to be refugees in the EU, unlike Arabs and blacks.

Now, after the declaration of default, lenders (including American ones) will methodically, cynically and ruthlessly take all the hides off you and carve the carcasses. And then, when the looting is complete and final, and there is nothing left to take from you, you will be thrown into chaos and poverty, which you yourself helped to create (and, most likely, dissected into several parts). As has happened with many other countries - Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and so on.

And your hopes that they will take away the remnants and begin to somehow restore and develop them are just as vain as your hopes for a visa-free regime and “European” salaries. What, someone invested in Afghanistan? Did you build production in Iraq? Developing Libya? No one invests in something that cannot be guaranteed to be held, it is easier to saw and plunder, and then leave the scorched desert. But you, morons, even your own mistakes do not teach you what to speak of others.

Why did I get an idea of ​​Novorossia? To separate the healthy areas from the plagued, enthused - it was a great idea. Real, ideal democracy: Russophiles to the east, Russophobes to the west, peacefully and without coercion. Like the Czech Republic and Slovakia, culturally. Evacuate normal people from affected regions to the maximum, and then isolate yourself from them, and let them cook in their schizophrenic hell, in poverty, in debt, in Ruin.

But no, not only maydanutye themselves are rapidly going to hell, they want to pull as many of the rest as possible behind them.

For almost two years they have been told: Stop! There will be a drop in production, poverty, default, unemployment, decline, rising crime! All our predictions come true (because they are economically justified and easily miscalculated), and they continue to jump and blame for all the troubles of “moskaley”. They destroyed everything themselves, and Putin is to blame.

The betrayal does not pay off, and here even the silver coins were not paid, only cookies and empty promises were avoided. No new markets, no investment, no help, no debt restructuring - nothing. And I'm not at all happy, I'm just terrified, how can you be so naive and stupid ?! Morons, you do not even understand what they have done!

And now, when Western "benefactors" begin to show their true predatory essence, how can you not remember Taras Bulba: Well, have your lyakhs helped you?
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  1. marlin1203
    marlin1203 6 October 2015 14: 04 New
    +25
    But one thing is only interesting - how will they now “creep out” in Ukraine? .. what
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 14: 16 New
      +53
      From ... what to do? They sit as always and wait for the end. Someone will come to warm and feed.
      1. ravend
        ravend 6 October 2015 14: 21 New
        +26
        let them come not to warm, but to heat
        this all went
        default with the subsequent sale of everything and everything in fraternal, earlier, Ukraine
        1. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 16: 16 New
          +34
          Quote: ravend
          let them come not to warm, but to heat
          this all went
          default with the subsequent sale of everything and everything in fraternal, earlier, Ukraine


          I cannot rejoice at this news, if only because now these same horses will jump into the "occupying country" pitying and humiliating pityingly. Over the past three months, I have personally observed a solid influx of "refugees" from the already western regions of B / Ukraine, far from the highest moral and business qualities.
          1. Comrade Bender
            Comrade Bender 6 October 2015 16: 51 New
            +38
            So do not take them to your work. Let them go to their homeland, build in the queue of sorting washers.
            1. 97110
              97110 6 October 2015 17: 32 New
              +15
              Quote: Comrade Bender
              So do not take them to your work.

              A productive thought. But there is still a question. They kind of do not ask for work. They just want to eat. It is desirable for free. And around they swore ..., and they were not ordered to protect themselves. Immediately the police will say ay-ay-ay ... No?
              1. severniy
                severniy 6 October 2015 18: 37 New
                +19
                cool little article, but there are buzzwords and turns for which I as a user would already be in the bath ... laughing
                1. OlegLex
                  OlegLex 7 October 2015 18: 17 New
                  +1
                  Yeah, I also received a Chinese warning from hot-buys for some of the same expressions. So for example М0scal to write on the form well, it’s not at all politically correct, but for D`bill I was already put in sight.
                2. Flexsus
                  Flexsus 7 October 2015 21: 16 New
                  +4
                  Just when it’s boiling, then in other words you won’t say ...
                3. spiriolla-45
                  spiriolla-45 8 October 2015 14: 04 New
                  +1
                  To God, to God, and Lazarus is lazy.
                4. Firstvanguard
                  Firstvanguard 9 October 2015 17: 04 New
                  0
                  cool little article, but there are buzzwords and turns for which I as a user would already be in the bath ... laughing

                  Yeah, this one really flaunted:
                  Male genital to you! You are not even allowed into the EU as refugees, unlike Arabs and Blacks.

                  The whole essence of what is happening with the ruin in this phrase, the rest is just decryption, for the gifted. Although these detachments do not care in the square, everything will not come early.
              2. Comrade Bender
                Comrade Bender 6 October 2015 21: 49 New
                +7
                And how can ukrohalivshchiki protect themselves with the help of "policemen"? A freeloader a priori cannot work and, accordingly, feed himself and his family. Such, the more it is necessary to drive from Russia with piss ... rags.
                1. 97110
                  97110 7 October 2015 09: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: Comrade Bender
                  And how can ukrohalivshchiki protect themselves with the help of "policemen"?

                  Here you have the right to encroach on your property (UX) ... As I have the right ... I can’t pick up a legal term for bringing the owner’s displeasure to UX. I’ll say a rude word to him, I will violate the human rights of man. Not to mention the shooting on the territory of the village.
          2. Rezident007
            Rezident007 6 October 2015 18: 10 New
            +26
            Yes, I recall the words of Andrei from "Taras Bulba": "... that father is no longer my father to me, brother is no longer my brother ..", - in the genes, apparently some of them have a betrayal for the sake of a sweet life .. "When the Ukrainian is getting smarter, he is becoming Russian. "
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 6 October 2015 18: 37 New
              +9
              "When a Ukrainian gets smarter, he becomes Russian."
              NEVER a Ukrainian wiser! Cunning-greed-in the blood! FOREVER IN GENES!
              And this is - STUPIDITY!
              1. SAILOROLD
                SAILOROLD 6 October 2015 21: 36 New
                +24
                Ukrainian or dill? !!!
                Everything became complicated ...
                I am Ukrainian according to the USSR Passport.
                The roots remained in the city of Ktovsk (Odessa region) ...
                By my perception of the world, I don’t understand what a UKRAINIAN is ...
                I hate West Entsev with all the fibers of my soul ...
                Oh, how complicated it all became ...
                1. Comrade Bender
                  Comrade Bender 6 October 2015 21: 53 New
                  +10
                  You see a colleague. A Ukrainian in the USSR is a representative of the fraternal people, and "dill" from Ukrogabon is the same traitor from a partisan detachment of three Ukrainians.
              2. Lyudmila Shagaeva
                Lyudmila Shagaeva 7 October 2015 04: 21 New
                +13
                Baikonur: "Cunning in blood! FOREVER IN GENES!" Unfortunately, but you are right !!! I have met many of these "Cunning-greedy" in my life (I’m 67 years old) and ALL of them are distinguished "like a carbon copy": to deceive, steal, lie, betray, start a scandal, turn everything upside down. Indeed, "Cunning in blood" and "FOREVER in GENES." It’s not for nothing that the saying goes among the people; “Where ho..l - there is the 2nd Heb..m nothing to do”
            2. Camel
              Camel 6 October 2015 20: 09 New
              +7
              But the truth is, history is spiraling -
              Andrei’s words from Taras Bulba: "... that the father is now not my father, my brother is no longer my brother .."
              two hundred years ago, and: "... We will never be brothers ..." now.
              That's just, according to the classics, first a tragedy, then a comedy, and then FARS. We are now observing a farce in Ukraine. Because otherwise what is happening there to call the language does not turn.
            3. a housewife
              a housewife 7 October 2015 12: 26 New
              -11
              In general, everything is not so unambiguous in Bulba. What did they, Cossacks, do there, with the Poles? They raided a peaceful city, they imposed a blockade and famine on civilians. And Andrei is certainly a traitor. Out of pity and love. Traitors usually run from the vanquished and the weak to the strong. Here is the opposite! Why is that Taras good? He didn’t love at home, nor his wife, nor children, nor people. Yes, I didn’t like children either. He killed one, betrayed the other. When Ostap was executed, he was supposed to die, but rush to the rescue! And he? And Ostap and Andrei are sympathetic, aren't they? Taras does not cause. And what a pity mother!
              1. da n ya 1914
                da n ya 1914 7 October 2015 21: 51 New
                +4
                And what do the Poles and Russians get up you do not know?
              2. Evpatiy.
                Evpatiy. 8 October 2015 03: 08 New
                -3
                Some kind of maternal sadness in your words. Indeed, not everything is so simple. From me, plus.
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          3. THE_SEAL
            THE_SEAL 7 October 2015 15: 21 New
            +5
            Yes, brothels are clogged with Ukrainian blyadyami. Laborers are the same from Ukraine. How to relate to them. I do not use the services of either one or the other. And I do not advise you. They do not like Russia. And you will be deceived on occasion.
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 6 October 2015 14: 49 New
        +9
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        From ... what to do? They sit as always and wait for the end. Someone will come to warm and feed.

        They will jump on and on, Maidan Maiduns hardly understand anything, their brains are not so arranged
        1. GDP
          GDP 6 October 2015 16: 23 New
          +41
          Much of course is true, but not quite ...

          Loans were given to them, and continue to be given. Europe and the IMF paid for gas for the winter, while they also steal, but ours cannot do anything ...


          They are not going to return debts. They announced a technical default to them and what? Are we witnessing a furious collapse of the hryvnia?

          Our Donbass will definitely be returned to them, most likely somewhere in the 2016-17 year, when there will be an association with the EU, and then they will have cheap coal ...

          I analyze their media and blogs - so far they have no panic, let's look honestly at things.
          They at least have a head count on the head, they will never admit their wrong, even if they poke it with their nose ...
          This is now the protectorate of the United States firmly and for a long time not only in the political sense, but also in the head ...
          And it is useless to appeal to their logic, they all have one answer - "We are in EUROPE, and we will live like people, and you will scoop and quilted jackets in the poor of Russia ..."
          1. The centurion
            The centurion 6 October 2015 18: 07 New
            +21
            Quote: GDP
            Loans they both gave and continue to give

            Very inexpensively, practically for pies on Independence, the West got its hands on several million crazed fighting cockerels who were ready to rush recklessly and defiantly at anyone whom the trainer pointed out. Ruin (in Ukrainian Ruin) will be compensated by the EU and the USA. They will not allow a complete default of Ukraine, but no more. And Ukraine itself will obediently and for a long time play the role of a hungry, but evil, watchdog dog of the West in southwest Russia.
            1. Karlovar
              Karlovar 6 October 2015 19: 45 New
              +6
              The role of the hyena of the West ... It was already in history, Poland-Rzecz Poland then performed the number ...
            2. Suhow
              Suhow 8 October 2015 00: 12 New
              0
              for which Maidan was sponsored by "partners" - to make a dog, yes, but the guard is still far away.
          2. Grenader
            Grenader 6 October 2015 18: 41 New
            +7
            Well, if such a serious organization as ISDA says, then dill is actually PISDA.
            1. AlexeyL
              AlexeyL 7 October 2015 10: 27 New
              +1
              Anyway, I get the impression that the West is slowly starting to give up on Ukraine, apparently it has served its role. Again on the Boeing investigation, new allegations ...
              1. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 8 October 2015 13: 40 New
                +1
                After our strike with cruise missiles from the Caspian, our "partners" jaw dropped and new arguments and evidence for the Boeing were found, for fidelity and consolidation of success, we still had to "flip" the ICBMs (without nuclear warheads) from the Western Face.
          3. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 7 October 2015 00: 47 New
            +3
            Quote: GDP
            Loans were given to them, and continue to be given.

            So give only, so as not to die of hunger! In scanty amounts. Otherwise, there are hunger riots that no American ambassador will destroy.
            Quote: GDP
            Our Donbass will definitely be returned to them, most likely somewhere in the 2016-17 year

            And where did you get this? Our desire for peace in the Donbass is not a drain, but the inevitable death of Dill, because the authorities in Kuev are only at the expense of the war and are in power. There will be no war - there is nothing to explain even to very stupid dill, why everything is h.r.enovo!
          4. bugrovata
            bugrovata 7 October 2015 10: 49 New
            +7
            Firstly, loans are given almost exclusively to repay %% for previously issued loans.
            Secondly, the EU paid for gas only in the amount necessary to maintain pressure in transit gas transportation systems. Those. only in order to secure transit without any problems!
            Thirdly, our Donbass will not be returned! Russians will not understand!
            Fourth, there is no panic about default, because it hasn’t even reached the brain! Then, the news there is slightly "hushed up", they say nothing!
          5. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 8 October 2015 13: 35 New
            +2
            "I analyze their media and blogs - they don’t have any panic yet, let's look honestly at things." What could be the media in Ukraine? The fact that most of the people are duped by these media I agree. Everyone does not wait until Putin is gone and peace and prosperity will come in the vast expanses of Ukraine.
      3. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 6 October 2015 16: 21 New
        +4
        the default should have happened ... you need to drunk send a couple of bubbles of alcohol, let him swell for the rest of his country
        1. am808s
          am808s 6 October 2015 18: 37 New
          +3
          And lard still for a snack. And in the morning the races will go. Russia pays tribute.
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 6 October 2015 17: 12 New
        +22
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        They sit as always and wait for the end. Someone will come to warm and feed.


        Already, the beloved children of those holding power will soon come to the Mandanai, the miserable.
        1. TVM - 75
          TVM - 75 6 October 2015 17: 56 New
          +8
          Oh poor fellow, miserable!
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 7 October 2015 12: 33 New
          0
          Cleaners in the European Parliament get much more! Ten times more! Ukrainian women do not take.
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        4. 56_br
          56_br 8 October 2015 15: 43 New
          0
          People’s deputies should generally work for free, in Ukraine, in Russia. Or the salaries for them should be set by the voters, since we are the employers for them, and do not agree with the salary, write a statement of our own free will.
      5. WKS
        WKS 6 October 2015 17: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        From ... what to do? They sit as always and wait for the end. Someone will come to warm and feed.

        Not anyone but Europe, Ukraine is the same. Previously, Moskali led and grandmothers now let Brussels be taken care of.
      6. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 6 October 2015 19: 54 New
        +1
        Only in Libya and Iraq it is not profitable to develop production, but oil production. They sit on oil and production is much more profitable than in Siberia
      7. Wolverine
        Wolverine 6 October 2015 22: 08 New
        +1
        They will do what they always did, PAMAGITE GOOD PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT LOCAL THOSE WHO CAN BE ABLE ....
    2. Andrea
      Andrea 6 October 2015 14: 20 New
      +35
      In the man's boiling! Well done! Not in the eyebrow, and in the eye! And many times.
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 6 October 2015 15: 26 New
        +39
        Quote: Andrea
        In the man's boiling! Well done! Not in the eyebrow, and in the eye! And many times.

        It is boiling for all normal people. The proof is that many (including myself) openly said that they could not comment on the actions of the Maidan people without mats. The article is strong. The main reasons for the brainlessness of the rulers of the Ruins are collected and formulated. It is written in simple language, it is read easily. I agree, the author is GOOD.
      2. The Chat
        The Chat 6 October 2015 15: 50 New
        +9
        What is good is that it writes the truth, and only the truth, without silly sentimentality. True to fools, truth is unnecessarily, they are for the truth only more satanic ... Give them a sweet lie ....
        1. dauria
          dauria 6 October 2015 17: 28 New
          +8
          so this is what writes truth without stupid sentimentality and only truth.


          This "truth" was blinded in our heads not without the participation of our "true" media. They do not lie, they distort a bit. A young (this year of release) specialist, design engineer without a category at Antonov Aviation Plant (who, by the way, does not lie in ruins, but continues to work, is in a crisis !!!) gets 4500 UAH. This is not a lot at the exchange rate to the ruble, but at Their prices for food, clothes and a communal apartment it corresponds to our 22-24 thousand vskidk. You will not be overweight, but you will not die. First-hand...
          There were no reductions, no corpses lying on the streets, everyone speaks Russian. Documentation in Russian and English. "Sweet lie", it seems, we are treated. And then we will understand that our thievish bourgeois in power has sent Ukraine to the Americans. Well, at least they managed to return the Crimea.
          What about Kiev? Yes, to hell with him, we have entih "volosts", well, heaps ....

          Yes, by the way, why do not they want to go under Moscow? The first argument is that we have enough of our thieves to feed your Serdyukov sluts. And do not hold them for idiots, people like people, we were exactly the same in the 90s with the same moods.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 6 October 2015 19: 50 New
            +3
            They and the 90s were with us, and in 2015 the same! The question is, do they have a mind ???
          2. kotvov
            kotvov 6 October 2015 20: 40 New
            +6
            oh, the corpses do not roll on the streets, everyone speaks Russian. ,,
            this is where they don’t wallow in kuev, but Donbass? Do you think the industry really works? I remember that in the 90s everything didn’t fall right away. So don’t have any hopes, it's all a matter of time.
          3. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 6 October 2015 21: 24 New
            +3
            Quote: dauria
            at the Antonov aircraft factory

            It’s possible that he receives at one factory. Apparently Antonov received a state order or rivets for export. But they don’t build a picture for one plant, we also have plants riveting for example ships for India.
            And do not forget that Ukraine’s economy is now supported by money emission — how much money is needed, how much money will be printed, reckoning will come later. Although maybe we should pump money into the economy. By the way, how is it with them with the opportunity to buy currency? If the national bank supports the hryvnia without selling dollars?
          4. TanakaKenshin
            TanakaKenshin 6 October 2015 22: 44 New
            +2
            I already wrote in one place, I repeat ...

            Quote: TanakaKenshin
            After some documents that have been personally read on the official website of the Ministry of Education of Ukraine (for example, “Methodical recommendations for nationally patriotic remuneration in foreign primary mortgages” or “Science and methodological materials” Revolution of Ukraine and Russia already). ..
            In order not to be unfounded: http://old.mon.gov.ua/ua/often-requested/methodical-recommendations/
          5. tank64rus
            tank64rus 8 October 2015 11: 44 New
            0
            Antonov plant is already preparing for bankruptcy. Industry in Ukraine should not be and this is determined by the West. About the corpses on the streets, that they were not in the Donbass. By the way, who said that Moscow made demands that Ukraine lay under it. Rather, thanks to our ambassadors, Chernomyrdin and Zurabov, we simply slammed her. And now Ukraine lies under Uncle Sam and he uses it as he wants. The 90s were in Ukraine, but it is clear that they like to step on a rake there.
          6. tank64rus
            tank64rus 8 October 2015 11: 44 New
            0
            Antonov plant is already preparing for bankruptcy. Industry in Ukraine should not be and this is determined by the West. About the corpses on the streets, that they were not in the Donbass. By the way, who said that Moscow made demands that Ukraine lay under it. Rather, thanks to our ambassadors, Chernomyrdin and Zurabov, we simply slammed her. And now Ukraine lies under Uncle Sam and he uses it as he wants. The 90s were in Ukraine, but it is clear that they like to step on a rake there.
    3. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 6 October 2015 14: 22 New
      +12
      Indeed, hohlomozbam not characteristic of self-criticism, like us. In addition to its absence - which is important for self-development, all this is flavored with a sauce of redneck, greed, Nazism, envy and exorbitant arrogance, based on subjectively inflated conceit .... what can happen from such hordes of imbeciles? ... only that We (Alas) are forced to observe in a once fraternal neighbor ... sadly ... but this is treated by time, and no one guarantees the absence of relapse
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 6 October 2015 15: 39 New
        +5
        Quote: Air Force Captain
        Indeed, hohlomozbam not characteristic of self-criticism, like us. In addition to its absence - which is important for self-development, all this is flavored with a sauce of redneck, greed, Nazism, envy and exorbitant arrogance, based on subjectively inflated conceit .... what can happen from such hordes of imbeciles? ... only that We (Alas) are forced to observe in a once fraternal neighbor ... sadly ... but this is treated by time, and no one guarantees the absence of relapse
        We will not generalize,% of the above-mentioned geeks are scanty, the trouble is that they are extremely active and have made their way to power. It’s bad that the brains are mostly injured in young people, it will take a long time to straighten out the dislocations.
        1. Azitral
          Azitral 6 October 2015 16: 21 New
          +15
          Unfortunately, NOT scanty. Even men of my years with higher education and a good specialty who were born and raised in the USSR are plagued, inadequate, full of unbridled hatred. Everything seems to be a normal person, but fell into a wild rage when I objected that young people drink much less than we do at their age. And even more so, when I dared to stutter that in Russia there wasn’t much hunger. Well, at least for now. No! By all means - to HUNGER. He does not agree with the Holodomor. And the wife, much younger, is the same. And youth is even worse. Only kill or after a long time in disaster. Attach - not allowed. I wonder how this is done? There is clearly not enough TV here.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 6 October 2015 20: 01 New
            +8
            Yes, there are more than 80% of such people who have come to Ukraine according to my observations (I often communicate with Ukrainians live) !!!! And they brought them to such a state of mind since at least 1991, there are all kinds of "patriotic" circles organized by someone you know besides the TV ... Many Ukrainians hate beyond belief !!! In 2014, upon hearing the Russian language, they were already regurgitating, shaking, balls were pouring blood, Putin shouted without fail ... lo, la, la, la ... Now they are in shock, relatively quiet, but their hatred has not diminished. ..
      2. dauria
        dauria 6 October 2015 17: 46 New
        +3
        hohlomozgam not characteristic of self-criticism, like us. In addition to its absence - which is important for self-development, all this is flavored with a sauce of redneck, greed, Nazism, envy and exorbitant arrogance, based on subjectively inflated conceit ..


        Stunned !!! So for sure everything is noticed .... smile Are you not talking about United Russia and Muscovites, by any chance? Or is it about the 16 "patriotic" leaders of the Komi Republic?
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    5. Comrade Bender
      Comrade Bender 6 October 2015 16: 48 New
      +2
      As always, in a proven way - Russia is an aggressor, Putin is to blame. Hostages of stereotypes and debelism. They have no other way.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 7 October 2015 12: 46 New
        +2
        Come on, another Putin is to blame! They are our fault ALL! EVERYTHING! It was we who, out of hunger, decided to profit from them, cholyak grub - bacon and bread with tsibuley, salted them with salt and washed down with vodka. It was we who selected the flowering Crimea, because on our coasts everything is neglected and destroyed. We decided to take money for our gas, because we don’t want to share fraternally. It was we who started the war in New Russia, because there is no coal of our own and there is nothing to drown. Yes, and in VO laugh at them. Over the highest nation in the world, from which they themselves descended, ungrateful! And they also captured their Rostov, Bryansk, Kuban lands and do not want to return. Ugh !!!
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    6. Cherdak
      Cherdak 6 October 2015 17: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: marlin1203
      how will they now "creep out" in Ukraine? ..


      Looking for "brothers" on a trip to Syria (oooh !!!!)

      Source: http://alexandr-rogers.livejournal.com
    7. max702
      max702 6 October 2015 19: 47 New
      +11
      Quote: marlin1203
      But one thing is only interesting - how will they now “creep out” in Ukraine? ..

      Why not understand? A woman on the panel, men on cannon fodder, children for pedophiles .. Anything that will have at least some kind of material value will be taken out, land, color, human organs will go to cover debts .. After that, the country will be split into several small enclaves, something the world will get the bourgeoisie has something for us .. But before that there will be a great purge by war, blood, cold and hunger .. Now the bourgeois thinks how to respond to the darkest trick in Syria, they may well organize the supply of weapons and mercenaries in order to disperse the forces and attention of Russia. They will spit on the arrangements from a high bell tower, the only thing we hope for is that in Syria they will get their ears very fast, and the operation will give an immediate result without allowing the thief to regroup .. In this case, the options are not very bad. There is a true understanding that our leadership is satisfied only with the whole of Ukraine under the control of Russia, well, maybe in a pinch without a part of Galicia .. well, Russia does not need only one Donbass! This is very little in the geopolitical strategy and is equivalent to defeat, here comes the whole circus with horses, hence the bloody pay of Donbass, if you give in to being content with the little things today, tomorrow you will have to pay several times more, both in money and in blood .. On the other side of the board are very experienced and skillful grandmasters, look at least at the history of the Second World All that you wanted to achieve maybe with some nuances, but still the goal was achieved the old order is broken major powers partially subdued partially hindered in development .. the world is in the hands of the financial-oligarchic elite .. Can't believe it? And look at the photo below and compare with the results of the Second World ..
    8. cap54
      cap54 6 October 2015 22: 33 New
      +2
      And as in the song "stand who goes"

      Wait, who's creeping !? Restricted area,
      The line is not allowed to crawl here.
      Crawling here is not good and even illegal
      I command you to crawl out of here.

      Wait, who's swimming !? Don't pretend to be fish
      Here, even fish are not allowed to swim.
      There is forbidden water, it is closed to you,
      And all movement in it is stopped.
    9. major147
      major147 6 October 2015 22: 46 New
      +1
      It’s not clear whether it’s the “peermog” of Ukraine. Debts can not be repaid.
    10. vodolaz
      vodolaz 7 October 2015 01: 40 New
      0
      Neither subtract, nor add, everything is right.
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    13. Kunar
      Kunar 7 October 2015 20: 18 New
      0
      And they do not care like. The main thing is that they would not forget about them))))
    14. Raindragon
      Raindragon 7 October 2015 21: 56 New
      +1
      Shitty now in Ukraine, shitty. The people are running somewhere, and the oligarchs are digging a deeper hole for him to become higher themselves. And something is not at all a pity for them, the goats are good to carry water) If they wanted cheese, welcome to the mousetrap, comrades rats !!!
    15. vtnsk
      vtnsk 8 October 2015 17: 18 New
      0
      Quote: marlin1203
      But one thing is only interesting - how will they now “creep out” in Ukraine? .. what

      Dupuy forward ... laughing
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 6 October 2015 14: 05 New
    +6
    We are waiting for tires from Rada, and the slogans: Piglet on Gilyaka?
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 14: 10 New
      +25
      And more: "I want at least some panties and eat"
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 6 October 2015 14: 30 New
      +5
      - Why Poroshenko constantly drinks at home alone?
      - He is afraid that in his company the call to go "for barbecue" may be taken literally !!!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 6 October 2015 16: 47 New
        +3
        BMP-2
        Why Poroshenko constantly drinks at home alone?
        Yes Petruha Waltzman and apparently sleeps alone! lol Wife and other women love it seems to him for a long time not allowed! angry
        Not for nothing, he is in the USA on a guy sexually"! But even he rebelled from him! am
        Yes! Khan at Petruha on all "fronts" turns out! laughing
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  3. Baloo
    Baloo 6 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +10
    ... how will they now "creep out" in Ukraine? ..

    They are fed up with Geyrope; they are not expected there. They will crawl to us, to the aggressors and, first of all, to the Crimea. True, there is still Belarus and Kazakhstan ...
    1. O_s_c_a_R
      O_s_c_a_R 7 October 2015 08: 11 New
      0
      They have already appeared in Kazakhstan. Mova is heard on the streets, in elevators, in bazaars and shops.
  4. Andrey71
    Andrey71 6 October 2015 14: 15 New
    +8
    Good article!!!! With feeling, plainly, arrangement !!!
  5. 2224460
    2224460 6 October 2015 14: 16 New
    +44
    Betrayal doesn’t pay off, but even silver coins weren’t paid, they cost only cookies and empty promises
    And after all, they are eating these promises. Well, they postponed the "European integration", well, they didn’t take it "in kind", but for now, but next year ...
  6. Maksus
    Maksus 6 October 2015 14: 17 New
    +4
    Don’t worry about them, we’ll always help: we will give you gas at a discount, or maybe for free, and we’ll give you money and let go of work ...
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 6 October 2015 14: 58 New
      +37
      Quote: Maksus
      Don’t worry about them, we’ll always help: we will give you gas at a discount, or maybe for free, and we’ll give you money and let go of work ...

      Unfortunately... I would give them discounts ... So far, no law enforcement officers have been hanging around the lanterns - and there’s nothing to talk with this territory ... They are trying to tell me that there is no Nazism in this Territory ... Bleat ...
      1. Erg
        Erg 6 October 2015 16: 05 New
        +3
        In general, to limit the penetration of brown infection into Russia, it would not be bad to create an appropriate service with broad powers.
  7. Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 6 October 2015 14: 17 New
    +3
    The frayer's greed ruined.
    Miser pays twice.
    The IMF gave them few loans and promised to give them more - so they also wanted to have something to repay their debts.
    1. Andrey_K
      Andrey_K 6 October 2015 14: 20 New
      +19
      In general, Ukraine is cursed for its many betrayals.
      And when God wants to punish someone - he robs his mind.
      This is what we are now observing: those who are deprived of the mind punish themselves.
      1. ejov1976
        ejov1976 6 October 2015 21: 15 New
        +8
        Someone will come to warm and feed.
    2. sevsor
      sevsor 6 October 2015 16: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey_K
      The frayer's greed ruined.
      Miser pays twice.
      The IMF gave them few loans and promised to give them more - so they also wanted to have something to repay their debts.

      Why, not only on this, you can have a lot of freebies for what, for example, recently the “independent government” fined (!) Russia for flights to the Crimea for 600 million hryvnias, moreover, they demand to pay $ 50 billion for the loss of Crimea, beg for discounts on gas, etc.- that's who, really, cotton wool instead of brains))
  8. Nick888
    Nick888 6 October 2015 14: 22 New
    0
    Evacuate as many normal people as possible from the affected regions, and then fence themselves off from them, and let them boil in their schizophrenic hell, in poverty, in debt, in Ruin.

    Most of the maydaunas will be implemented as such, because in Europe they will be given x * r, and Russia will begin to pour into restoration, there will be money, citizenship and other delights and they understand this very well.
  9. raid14
    raid14 6 October 2015 14: 23 New
    +4
    This article would be sent to all Ukrainian mass media, especially to the censor, even if the svidomye teeth are screwed together. One wants to say, "Wake up, grandmother Ukraine, there’s a broken trough in front of you."
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 16: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: raid14
      This article would be sent to all Ukrainian mass media, especially to the censor, even if the svidomye teeth are screwed together. One wants to say, "Wake up, grandmother Ukraine, there’s a broken trough in front of you."


      It’s necessary that there would still be a broken loaf of bread. Oh and good, mother Russia.
    2. 97110
      97110 6 October 2015 17: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: raid14
      This article would be sent to all Ukrainian media,

      Well, if the Canadian prime minister signs an escort, they can publish it. But even in this case it is doubtful. And without escort, they won’t even be able to send them - they’re kind of building a fence on the border.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 7 October 2015 12: 59 New
        +1
        Build? Still building? We’ll build a bridge to the Crimea faster. And the money was probably already over for the fence.
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  10. erased
    erased 6 October 2015 14: 24 New
    +3
    It is not good, of course, to gloat, but I really want to. However, the dill of dill should be serious in Russia and they have yet to be knocked out. If the "Russian" bureaucrats again do not merge everything for a small fraction.
    And now even Poros and K are wondering - will the Su-34 and Su-30 fly over Kiev? Well, how do they “make a mistake” with navigation once?
  11. asbond
    asbond 6 October 2015 14: 27 New
    +5
    Yes, to the point! Tough, "intolerant", but sincerely and deed!
  12. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 6 October 2015 14: 30 New
    +2
    And already I thought they drove the desu on Sunday (October 4).
    Ndaaa. They wanted to live better, believed in the West (what time?). Not only did they themselves find themselves in ... za, but also Russia and Belarus are now blown away for them. And the neighboring republics, the former Soviet ones, almost all felt their jumps directly or indirectly.
    Svidomye! Glad? Probably yes: now you can not repay debts (in their opinion).
  13. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 6 October 2015 14: 30 New
    +6
    And the article is good, and everything is written in the case. But for whom? There are no Ukrainians here.
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 16: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      And the article is good, and everything is written in the case. But for whom? There are no Ukrainians here.


      Yes, you sho? Where did the stink go? Here they are, little things. They are sitting quietly, they put minus signs for you.
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 7 October 2015 13: 01 New
        -1
        Ukrainians are Russian. And not Russian-Tse Ukrainians.
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  14. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 6 October 2015 14: 31 New
    +3
    Well, it’s from the heart, it’s with feeling. All Ukrainian people Deeply "thank" the fucking right-wing sector for the betrayal of their own brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, children, and most importantly the grandfathers who gave their lives for freedom !!! We don’t need you anymore, and the West never needed you. But the Russians do not abandon their own in the war, therefore, in the very near future, the entire eastern half of the independence from Odessa to Kiev will return under the bosom of their “BROTHER”, and the west will most likely be divided into a handful of princedoms fiercely hating everything Russian, but grinding their teeth from their stupid powerlessness.
  15. Will
    Will 6 October 2015 14: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: Andrey_K
    In general, Ukraine is cursed for its many betrayals.
    And when God wants to punish someone - he robs his mind.
    This is what we are now observing: those who are deprived of the mind punish themselves.

    But why, then, does everyone else "get it"? Is it because everything is interconnected?
  16. ded
    ded 6 October 2015 14: 34 New
    +12
    A meeting of the ISDA Standing Committee adopted a decision on recognition of technical default of Ukraine from October 4, 2015.


    The news should look different:

    Ukraine came * ISDA !!!
  17. Lecha57
    Lecha57 6 October 2015 14: 36 New
    +2
    It seems to me that their song has long been sung. -Time thing
  18. nnz226
    nnz226 6 October 2015 14: 38 New
    +3
    dill-down! Teach Your History - The Ruin Period! Then they also wanted to the west for benefits - they got the Ruin. As they say, the smart one learns from the mistakes of others, the fool learns from his own, but how can you characterize dill if they cannot learn from their mistakes ?! They didn’t have enough Maidan 2004, even 10 did not pass years on a new mess!
  19. lukke
    lukke 6 October 2015 14: 38 New
    +3
    The presentation style in the obvious article really liked)
    And the date of October 4, 2015, I propose to make Ukraine an official holiday, such as - Non-fallow Day of the Ukrainian penny system!
  20. Sukhoi
    Sukhoi 6 October 2015 14: 42 New
    -7
    I have nothing for Ukraine, but what is the article about? one line about the technical default of a group of lenders? This is not an internationally recognized default. A bunch of emotional husks, albeit true. It smacks of censor.
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 17: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Sukhoi
      I have nothing for Ukraine, but what is the article about? one line about the technical default of a group of lenders? This is not an internationally recognized default. A bunch of emotional husks, albeit true. It smacks of censor.


      Yes, really. But understand that we have already brought people to the point that we are not waiting for the end of this Ukro-Barbara. I hear for the “Minsk type agreement” I run to the sink. It is incomprehensible to the mind what the people of Donbass are experiencing (God help them) when they are told "soon you will be in Ukraine again." If nothing changes for the ancient ukrov for the worse, they will never calm down! They are all soiled in omna and blood. Please do not compare our slightly emotionally naive, but sincerely patriotic resource with this stinking garbage dump called Censor (editor-in-chief Lucifer himself)
      1. Sukhoi
        Sukhoi 6 October 2015 17: 53 New
        +3
        You need to compare so as not to slide to their level. Here Military Review, and not the cry of Yaroslavna aka Rogers. In the heading "Jumped: the default of Ukraine is officially recognized by the international community," in the article is emptiness.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 6 October 2015 22: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Sukhoi
          You need to compare so as not to slide to their level. Here Military Review, and not the cry of Yaroslavna aka Rogers. In the heading "Jumped: the default of Ukraine is officially recognized by the international community," in the article is emptiness.

          ====
          this is probably from the cycle: repetition is the mother of learning
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    2. da n ya 1914
      da n ya 1914 7 October 2015 21: 56 New
      0
      Read carefully.
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 October 2015 15: 08 New
    +1
    But this is the finish, perhaps. Gotcha, Svidomo. Dill was leaked by those who started this Maidan. True, now the question is about cutting carcasses, methods of undressing citizens and skinning. Without the voluntary help of Ukropia itself, carving its carcass is quite problematic. Purely technically. After all, it’s all the same - a state, with borders, an army, a population, finally. And if (suppose), dill suddenly rests with all four, and will say ANYTHING TO ANYTHING! And I will not take off my skin. This will be a big shot. By the way, in the spirit of Svidomo.
    1. The Chat
      The Chat 6 October 2015 15: 59 New
      +3
      Someone will ask her! Died so dead! Butchering carcasses and ripping off the skin - it will be Sherkhan (USA) and the joined jackals Tabaki from Europe. Oh, they then do not feel the slightest pity for the Ruin. On the contrary, with pleasure they will strip these suckers who have gained credits above the roof. And then nothing personal, pure business !!! A wacky country with brainless leaders is not a sin to strip, a typical Western morality ...
      1. 97110
        97110 6 October 2015 17: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Le Chat
        Butchering carcasses and ripping off the skin - it will be Sherkhan (USA) and the joined jackals Tabaki from Europe.

        Yeah. How so. So that ukroameri Americans missed such a thing? Not in the heat. They themselves will tear off the skins and cut them, in the best traditions of Krajina. Remember, at least, “Galicia”, who solved the Jewish question there? What are Sherkhan and tobacco. Sami, all by yourself.
  22. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 6 October 2015 15: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: marlin1203
    But one thing is only interesting - how will they now “creep out” in Ukraine? .. what

    nowhere to crawl. will divide as once Poland.
    1. TanakaKenshin
      TanakaKenshin 6 October 2015 23: 18 New
      +2
      The main thing is Galicia! In the event of the partition of Ukraine, in no case should Galicia ... be taken away.

      "Whoever joins Galicia, he will lose the empire" (c) P.N. Durnovo
  23. antikilller55
    antikilller55 6 October 2015 15: 14 New
    0
    You can’t tell better ...
  24. Mihail1383
    Mihail1383 6 October 2015 15: 15 New
    -8
    The use of the word "stupid people" in relation to the 40 million people, suggests that the author himself is not far from this left. It seems that this was written by Klim Chugunkin. Peremptory confidence and peremptory stupidity.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 16: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Mihail1383
      It seems that this was written by Klim Chugunkin.

      Well Duc - Rogers. Find his LJ entry last November - the same thing. Formula 2M / gold reserves, the rate of 800 hryvnia per dollar, general panic, the assault of the Rada, etc.
    2. 97110
      97110 6 October 2015 17: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Mihail1383
      The use of the word "stupid people" in relation to the 40 millionth people
      seems to be a manifestation of excessive tolerance. Or just taking into account the requirements of the site. Because the epithets deserved by 40 million are unacceptable here. Minus set you creaking heart - Your post is surprisingly no rudeness. Really ...?
    3. a housewife
      a housewife 7 October 2015 13: 07 New
      0
      No one perceives the "stupid" in relation to the whole people of Ukraine. But VERY many there are stupid. And most importantly - aggressive stupid. The rest is a pity.
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  25. pv1005
    pv1005 6 October 2015 15: 15 New
    +7
    In addition to what the author said. There is a good children's poem by S. Mikhalkov.

    In one lane
    They stood at home.
    In one of the houses
    There lived a stubborn Thomas.

    Neither at home nor at school,
    Nowhere, nobody -
    Did not believe
    Stubborn Thomas
    Nothing.

    Slush on the streets
    And the rain
    And hail.
    "Put on your galoshes,"
    They tell him.

    "Not true,-
    Thomas does not believe, -
    It's a lie..."
    And right through the puddles
    It goes without galoshes.

    Frost.
    Children put on skates.
    Passers-by raised their collars.
    Thomas says:
    "Winter came".
    In underpants
    Thomas goes for a walk.

    Goes to the zoo
    With a guided tour of it.
    "Look, - they tell him, -
    This is an elephant".
    And again Thomas does not believe:
    "It's a lie.
    Quite this elephant
    Not like an elephant. "

    once
    I had a stubborn dream
    It is as if he is walking in Africa.
    From heaven
    The African sun bakes
    A river called Congo
    Flowing.

    Coming to the river
    Pioneer squad.
    Guys fome
    At the river they say:

    "You can’t swim:
    Alligators are darkness. "
    "Not true",-
    Friends meet Thomas.

    Underpants and shirt
    Lying in the sand.
    The stubborn is swimming
    On the dangerous river.

    Close
    Alligator predatory
    To fall.
    "Save yourself, miserable,
    You can be lost! "

    But heard by the guys
    The familiar answer:
    "Please do not teach,
    I am eleven years old!"

    Already crocodile
    Thomas's back
    Already crocodile
    Choked Thomas;
    From the mouth of the beast
    Head sticks out.
    To shore
    The wind carries the words:
    "Wrong ...
    I don’t ... "
    Alligator sighed
    And, full,
    Dived into the green water.

    Underpants and shirt
    Lying in the sand.
    No one is swimming
    On the dangerous river.

    Thomas woke up
    Doesn’t understand anything
    Underpants and shirt
    From the chair takes.

    Thomas is surprised
    Thomas is indignant:
    "Not true, comrades,
    It's not a dream!"

    Guys,
    Find such a Thomas
    And these verses
    Read to him.


    ONE CHILD maybe understand.
  26. manguest
    manguest 6 October 2015 15: 28 New
    +2
    As expected, at the top of the food chain were real scavengers who are able to grind even large ungulates and proboscis with bones, and they will not leave even fresh memories of freshly pigs.
  27. ARES623
    ARES623 6 October 2015 15: 31 New
    +2
    The other day, information slipped that an earthquake had recently occurred in the Yellowstone Caldera. Strong enough for someone to erase all the information about it. It has long been believed among experts that the United States has very little time left to live on its territory. Moreover, some of them travel to other continents, taking with them the whole family, including distant relatives of the spouses. Some analysts attribute the buildup of the US foreign debt to this, because when it rumbles and only the memories remain from the state, there will be no one to bring claims. And here the results of the work of the “liquidation team of Ukraine” —Poroshenko and Co. — will be very helpful here. After all, somewhere the American moneybags should run away when they cook. And here is a good place and plenty of slaves. Just a paradise for Rockefeller and his team. Perhaps all this is speculation. And if not?
    1. Not served
      Not served 6 October 2015 16: 31 New
      0
      And I think such a "paradise" near Russia will seem like hell to them.
    2. a housewife
      a housewife 7 October 2015 13: 11 New
      0
      God forbid! Yellowstone bangs - the whole Earth will not seem enough, but America is definitely the end. And there are also many normal people.
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  28. Curious
    Curious 6 October 2015 15: 32 New
    +2
    Perhaps ukroevrokahly will do as usual. Let the skin be torn from a neighbor, but I will pretend that I have nothing to do with it. It is not for nothing that they are being taught in the Zapadenshchina how to behave if the Russians come. They have a plan for capturing and recording at the police station for every possible option. That is their nature.
  29. Bomber480
    Bomber480 6 October 2015 15: 40 New
    +1
    Strongly said!
  30. NDR-791
    NDR-791 6 October 2015 15: 46 New
    +2
    default of Ukraine officially recognized by the international community
    Why don't they shout about it at every corner? And do not require, for example, to calculate in kind?
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 16: 01 New
      -3
      Quote: NDR-791
      default of Ukraine officially recognized by the international community
      Why don't they shout about it at every corner? And do not require, for example, to calculate in kind?

      yes because, b / \ in, it technical default, not fundamental. Do you understand the difference? Why scream at the corners? The author is an ordinary whooper; it will become him. For xoxlov, this is perhaps the best way out.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 6 October 2015 16: 13 New
        +8
        Quote: Das Boot
        Yes, because, b / \ in, this is a technical default, and not fundamental. Do you understand the difference?

        Nah .. and I don’t understand what a "fundamental" default is. There is no such thing in nature.

        Default happens:

        - technical. You solvent, but you can’t pay on time. Money is about to appear, but the payment has already passed. There was money - paid - goodbye, technical default.
        - "ordinary" ("real", simply) default is when there is no money and is not expected. That is - everything is hopeless.

        From this moment on, it begins

        Quote: NDR-791
        pay in kind

        , and other unpleasant things.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 6 October 2015 16: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Nope ..


          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Default happens:

          - technical.

          Well? ISDA acknowledged technical default due to refusal to pay $ 500mn. Why are you rejoicing?
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 6 October 2015 16: 45 New
            +4
            Quote: Das Boot
            Why are you rejoicing?

            Nobody rejoices.

            Quote: Das Boot
            Yes, because it is a technical default, not a fundamental one. Do you understand the difference?

            Do not mislead the people. I'm talking about the word "fundamental" exactly. It is not fundamental, it is defaulted.

            Just an elk, like yes
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 6 October 2015 17: 15 New
              -4
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Do not mislead the people. I'm talking about the word "fundamental" exactly. It is not fundamental, it is defaulted.

              what difference does it make - fundamental, sovereign, complete, ordinary - different from the technical one. It’s not a matter of epithets; I haven’t seen economists-bookworms on the site, everything here is a mess on Wikipedia, so the question of terminology is secondary - it is clear what I had in mind. laughing
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Nobody rejoices.

              well maybe not. But in general, I will not hide - I share the general gloating laughing But it is in relation to this wretched camarilla in Kiev and famous personalities)
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 6 October 2015 17: 46 New
                +3
                Quote: Das Boot
                the question of terminology is secondary - it is clear what I had in mind

                Yes, naturally .. drinks

                I propose to replace the "technical" with "fake", or "default make-believe".

                Then for sure everyone will understand laughing
                1. Das Boot
                  Das Boot 6 October 2015 18: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  or "default make-believe."

                  so so it is laughing
              2. a housewife
                a housewife 7 October 2015 13: 13 New
                -1
                What is wikipedia?
        2. brisk
          brisk 6 October 2015 20: 19 New
          0
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Default happens:

          - technical. You are solvent, but you cannot pay on time. Money is about to appear, but the payment has already passed. There was money - paid - goodbye, technical default.
          - “ordinary” (“real”, simply) default is when there is no money and is not expected. That is - everything is hopeless.


          "A statement of technical defaults by any organization does not in itself mean a lot. In the relationship between creditors and debtors, the condition of the debtor is of the greatest importance. There are options: he cannot and does not want to pay, or he cannot, but wants to pay or he can pay, but doesn’t want to. Relationships are made of these combinations. Creditors initially took risks on the debtor and actually bought the risk. They assessed their risk, and for this price they bought this risk. It’s in their interests that their risk assessment brings profit and, at least, did not make a loss, respectively, if the debtor has a situation where he cannot pay, but wants, this is not a bad situation for the lender, and he will work and negotiate with the debtor. the expectation of both sides about what will happen next. Ukraine, of course, is not included in the category where it can pay but does not want. It is not included in the category where it cannot and does not want em pay. She falls into the category in which she cannot, but wants to pay. This means that she can negotiate with creditors, and her debts are likely to be restructured without plunging into the abyss of malicious defaults, of which there have been many in history. Now in the world no one is shouting that Ukraine is assigned a so-called default, where the debtor does not want to pay under any circumstances. "
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 7 October 2015 13: 18 New
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            Ukraine WANTS to pay? Wants? Does anyone believe this? And the United States, apparently, want to pay? Such a strong economy, where so much debt? Do they pay anything? Why do they have no default? Or do they owe it to themselves? If not, then to whom?
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    2. ARES623
      ARES623 8 October 2015 08: 59 New
      0
      Quote: NDR-791
      And do not require, for example, to calculate in kind?

      Then it will be necessary for all women of Ukraine, from infants to old women, to work out 100 bucks per hour for an hour in Leningradka. Well, they will stand shoulder to shoulder from Moscow to Vladivostok. Do not bring God to see this. No, better green money. As they took, so let them give. Well, in extreme cases, let’s rewrite the Kherson region ..... but without the "Svidomo", only the ground ...
  31. WU 37
    WU 37 6 October 2015 15: 51 New
    +1
    Strong article !!! Everything to the point !!! Neither add nor add. Thank you!
  32. Djozz
    Djozz 6 October 2015 15: 59 New
    +11
    That’s the whole truth!
  33. Erg
    Erg 6 October 2015 16: 16 New
    0
    I won’t believe it until I hear the official comment.
  34. Babai Balkan
    Babai Balkan 6 October 2015 16: 22 New
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    )))) is boiling visible ... but well done, he threw out with facts of reality and rigidity. That's right, my hut with the edge always goes sideways.
    And in the end, they’ll become embittered by the “brothers”, because except for them, NO ONE will help, only they will come to BAT ... and they will come and help them! All the same, BROTHERS and without any shorts.
  35. pascal309
    pascal309 6 October 2015 16: 29 New
    +8
    not a photo montage! but a very familiar face!
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 6 October 2015 16: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: pascal309
      but a very familiar face!


      If I am not mistaken - the grave digger of Ukraine from the country of Dill. bully
  36. akudr48
    akudr48 6 October 2015 16: 38 New
    0
    The article is brilliant both in form and content!

    Great respect to the author!

    But the question of schizophrenization of the masses is not completely clear.
    One person can become a schizophrenic, a group of people - you can enter into schizophrenic psychosis, but I can not understand how to make the people of a whole country, even a significant part of it, schizophrenic.

    The author is right that the leaders of the U.K.R.O.V. historically, they have always been traitors, lived on the principle of “need changes the law”, spreading under the Turks, under the Poles, under the Germans, under the Austrians, under the Swedes, under the Tatars, etc.

    But then things went further. After all, these UKRs not only experienced a one-time schizophrenic attack at the races on the Maidan, but soon 2 years later they continue to live in this state, finding answers to all their troubles and misfortunes in the Russians and Putin.

    Will psychiatry help here or have they already invented in the West some new method of mass hypnosis from the arsenal of psycho-warfare through TV and the Internet, which makes millions of free wfds submissive herd, or b.y.d.lo., if you say European.

    But this is the topic of another article, it would be good from the same author.
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 17: 51 New
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      Will psychiatry help here or have they already invented in the West some new method of mass hypnosis from the arsenal of psycho-warfare through TV and the Internet, which makes millions of free wfds submissive herd, or b.y.d.lo., if you say European.
      Of course you +, but tell me for God's sake: where and when did you see FREE ukrd?
    2. Lyudmila Shagaeva
      Lyudmila Shagaeva 7 October 2015 04: 51 New
      +1
      akudr48: "Will psychiatry help here ...". How could it happen that our brotherly people of 23 (25) galloped with outstretched hands: “give pennies Mos-ka-li” Perhaps the schizophrenization of the masses is possible, these are the consequences of a massive defeat of syphilis, as stated in the article: “Now everything is clear with Ukraine. - I cried
      www.yaplakal.com. "Sadly.
  37. Lelek
    Lelek 6 October 2015 16: 38 New
    0
    Author Alexander Rogers

    Harsh, sometimes on the verge of a foul, but by the way and in business.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 October 2015 17: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Lelek
      Harsh, sometimes on the verge of a foul, but by the way and in business.

      I don’t know, but with all my disrespect for the imbecile authorities, I also don’t feel any special sympathy for such clicks. Although Rogers calls himself an "economist and social engineer", you know, you have to be an iota and not a "shrewd forecaster" so that you don’t understand a year ago that technical default - It’s a matter of time, as if the authorities did not resist it. However, all of these apocalyptic fantasies heaped up by Rogers around this procedural news are targeted at passionate xoxophobes and find a grateful audience. No disaster has happened yet. The technical default marker of the same 15 banks and investment companies can just as easily be removed as a result of any compromise decisions. The question is whether they will make these decisions)
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 6 October 2015 19: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: Das Boot
        However, all of these apocalyptic fantasies heaped up by Rogers around this procedural news are targeted at passionate xoxophobes and find a grateful audience. No disaster has happened yet. The technical default marker of the same 15 banks and investment companies can just as easily be removed as a result of any compromise decisions. The question is, will they make these decisions

        Do you seriously think that the Durcaine economy will be able to repay loan debts? I wonder why? With Europe, trade did not unfold, but with Russia curtailed. The United States and they are not needed for nothing with their goods. Even if they raise earrings from their ears from all their women, they cannot pay debts, because at the time of repayment, there is someone who sleeps ... pardon, expropriates all the gold))) The world realized that doing business with them is an unjustified risk and therefore ten years you can’t wait for the investment flow. They have not yet fully understood that in restitution from January 2016, they will begin to return their property to their real owners almost for free. Very soon all “interesting” assets will be taken from them by debt, the fields will be sown with transgenic crops and quietly, for 20 years they will reduce the number from 40 million to 5-10. I don’t want to get them out anymore, from the word at all. They still have fun for five or five years until they dispossess those who don’t go on their move, until all the neighbors take revenge on their neighbors and redistribute the property of more successful thugs in favor of less successful but armed ones.
        There is no delight, it’s bad .... but it is the result of betrayal.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 6 October 2015 21: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Do you seriously think that the Durcaine economy will be able to repay loan debts?

          I AM? No, I don’t think so, but I’m sorry - Moskal, in my opinion ... you understand. But a certain Abromavicius issued the other day: "stagnation in China is about to close unprofitable metallurgical plants, rental prices will jump, Ukraine will be in export chocolate with its metal!" And this, for a minute, says the Minister of ERT ... The most amazing thing is that he believe! Yatsenyuk, by his decision on non-payment of $ 500B, predetermined technical default, but presented it as another victory - a default on sovereign obligations - well, we, like, are above that ... Well, etc. I just wonder how this gop company manages to balance and not fall into a real default. That is, I want to say - when will the immutable laws of economics, about which smart uncles in electronic computers love to talk, finally prevail over artificial political reasons?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 6 October 2015 21: 43 New
            +3
            Quote: Das Boot
            That is, I want to say - when will the immutable laws of economics, about which smart uncles in EBI like to talk, finally get the better of artificial political reasons?

            Soon)))))
            Technical default - this phrase was invented so that citizens (patience) would perceive it as a kind of accident on the heating main and believe that the pipe will be changed and everything will work out. And then it turns out that the house was frozen and the batteries burst, because either the pipe was brought in the wrong diameter, the valve of the wrong system or the welder got drunk. They will not have time to look around how they will begin hyperinflation, as we once had when they began to receive a salary of millions.
            Dill millionaires! That sounds!
            And about metal rolling -Thank you, we made fun)))
            Who else would throw coal to Abromavicius?))) For him, that cocaine, that coking coal is the same thing, COX)))
  38. vit
    vit 6 October 2015 17: 17 New
    +1
    great article! definitely +++! it’s only a pity that not many horses will come.
  39. 30143
    30143 6 October 2015 17: 21 New
    +1
    Dear forum users! Take it easy. Nothing terrible happened in this default. No one is going to give money to the Russian Federation. That is the will of the United States. This money had a corruption component ...
    But to send oil at its peak is yes.
    To make you understand, Maydanut go to treatment in the Russian Federation, and not in Europe. You have their children too. Now the planes are canceled .... BUT NOT REPENT!
    And so it will continue. They cannot forgive the Russian Federation that they were removed from the resources of the USSR and left with their bare ass.
    At the very least, but Europe is gradually forcing them to change the country. The question in which direction remains open so far.
    1. AlexeyL
      AlexeyL 7 October 2015 11: 00 New
      +1
      Note on the oil account:
      from 4.10 to 7.10 it is slowly growing from $ 48.19 to $ 52.40, let's see what happens next
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      3. allian
        allian 7 October 2015 18: 59 New
        -7
        Wrong look, my dear. It was necessary to look there before the sanctions. Now you need to look here.
  40. SanSuh
    SanSuh 6 October 2015 17: 39 New
    +5
    There are not so many hohlodowns there, I think! But where did the majority of Russians who hid in their burrows of Kiev apartments look? With their tacit consent, everything happened, well, even Yanukovych. In short, the main thing is that when Teft is going to do this for us (and will try) the main thing is for us not to click anything at this moment. And go out and give lyuley!
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 17: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: SanSuh
      There are not so many hohlodowns there, I think! But where did the majority of Russians who hid in their burrows of Kiev apartments look? With their tacit consent, everything happened, well, even Yanukovych. In short, the main thing is that when Teft is going to do this for us (and will try) the main thing is for us not to click anything at this moment. And go out and give lyuley!


      Mikhail Afanasevich Bulgakov answers this question in detail in his novel "The White Guard"
  41. givigor71
    givigor71 6 October 2015 17: 46 New
    +4
    Dill has become one large toilet ...
  42. Naval
    Naval 6 October 2015 17: 50 New
    +4
    Tse PEREMOGA !!!!! Glory to the Ruin, and to the heroes of Sala!
  43. akudr48
    akudr48 6 October 2015 18: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: Petergofsky73
    Of course you +, but tell me for God's sake: where and when did you see FREE ukrd?


    Of course. joke, as well as partially true that uk.r. so free of mind that they are ready to resolve themselves in order to harm Russia.
  44. chernig
    chernig 6 October 2015 18: 35 New
    +1
    Bravo to the author for the article !!!
  45. ermolai
    ermolai 6 October 2015 18: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: tolyasik0577
    therefore, in the very near future, the entire eastern half of the independence from Odessa to Kiev will return under the bosom of its "BROTHER" and the west will most likely be divided into a handful of principalities fiercely hating everything Russian, but grinding its teeth from its dumb impotence.

    It seems to me that they fiercely hate everyone except their beloved ones, any neighbor, godfather, matchmaker, who are ready, if possible, to burn at the stake.
  46. atamankko
    atamankko 6 October 2015 19: 02 New
    +1
    That’s all their greatness.
  47. mr.vasilievich
    mr.vasilievich 6 October 2015 19: 09 New
    +4
    Tough, but painfully true.
  48. Awaz
    Awaz 6 October 2015 19: 17 New
    +6
    When hysteria really began in Kiev, one of my acquaintances from Odessa (who was born and lived in Russia before 05) said this: now you and I are officially enemies of the Russians ... At first I took everything as a joke, but later everything took the most unpleasant look. GIRL just went crazy probably.
    I do not know what the people are stuffing there, but apparently the population was really brainwashed completely. I can’t imagine how they will depart from all this and whether they will depart.
  49. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 6 October 2015 19: 42 New
    +8
    Great men's tough article. Whip like a whip. Not a word, not a sentence. From and to. Sobering up. Sharp and gossiping.
    I bow to the author.
    1. magdama
      magdama 8 October 2015 09: 54 New
      -5
      I don’t understand what kind of cockroaches were in the head of the GDP, but he pissed away RUSSIA. Question - why? For 15 years he was craping it. What? Woke up? late my friend ....
  50. Uncle Joe
    Uncle Joe 6 October 2015 19: 42 New
    -5
    The International Swap and Derivatives Association (ISDA) has officially recognized Ukraine’s refusal to fulfill obligations to creditors. A meeting of the ISDA Standing Committee adopted a decision on recognition of technical default of Ukraine from October 4, 2015.
    And what?

    The countries to which the Russian Federation wrote off debts (local fools justified this cancellation by the fact that these countries could not pay the debts anyway) also essentially caught a technical default - and what?

    A small, prosperous Iceland, which in 2010 refused to pay its debts and initiated criminal prosecution of those who organized these debts, also essentially caught a technical default - and what?


    The Urikals can continue to be proud that the Russian Federation will regularly benefit its creditors, paying off "their" debts to the West and thereby acting as a cash cow (a sucker is fate).
    And Sasha Rogers will continue to receive cookies from customers for emotional crap, contributing to the divorce of suckers.
    1. Nikotin13
      Nikotin13 7 October 2015 02: 41 New
      0
      Argentina, too, drew a default last year, although all the necessary amounts were deposited (only recently the court found that the interest was overestimated). But in Ukraine there is a completely different story, is there really nothing to pay. Do you catch the difference?
      1. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 7 October 2015 14: 16 New
        -2
        Quote: Nikotin13
        Catch the difference?
        You do not catch it.

        Technical default country leads either to restructuring or to write off debt, and is a problem for creditors.

        So I would really like to know - what are you happy with the local idiots and Rogers?