London vs Moscow?

British Prime Minister D. Cameron is extremely dissatisfied with the "behavior" of Russia in the Middle East. According to him, Russia's military intervention in Syria helps support Assad's “butcher” and “worsens the situation.” Meanwhile, military experts and officers in the UK began to speculate on increasing tension between Russia and NATO and the need to “modernize Tanks».




According to British Prime Minister David Cameron, who is quoted as saying "BBC", the Russian military does not see a difference in Syria between Islamist militants and opposition leaders fighting the Syrian President Assad. About this Mr. Cameron said on speech in Oxfordshire.

In his opinion, Russia's military intervention "in fact worsened the situation even more." D. Cameron called the President of Syria B. Assad a “butcher”, his rule as a “regime” and declared: the Arab world is right “condemning Russia for its deeds”.

British newspaper "Express" placed an article on her pages under the heading "UK must prepare for war with Russia". This means that Britain should prepare for war with Russia, and this training should begin with tanks.

Britain should invest in the modernization of its main battle tanks, as the threat of a land war with Russia is increasing, the newspaper notes.

This "threat" is reported by British officers. It is expressed in the form of tension between NATO states and Moscow. In addition, the Russians threaten “nuclear countermeasures” in connection with the news about nuclear facilities in Germany.

David Cameron, continues publication, is trying to find a “compromise” with Russian President Vladimir Putin against the terrorist group “IG” in Syria, but “Russia's aggression in Eastern Europe, an increase in the incursions of Russian bombers into the airspace of NATO member countries and the creation of a new Russian The "supertank" led the senior officers of the British army to the fact that the prospects for the traditional land war in Eastern Europe can no longer be ignored. "

Now the British army is 227 main battle tank "Challenger 2" (Challenger 2). This is a real power, however, "they are in dire need of modernization."

Last year, the British army took part in NATO exercises in Poland with more than a hundred armored vehicles. Operation Black Eagle stressed the ability of the British Army to "deploy an armored combat system in a short time, anywhere in the world in support of the Allies."

But the newspaper Express didn’t understand that the native United Kingdom (unlike the NATO allies mentioned) was not able to deploy a full tank squadron (14 tanks plus two in reserve) within thirty days.

It took more than three months to train some tanks! They were prepared for such a long time because the machines were preserved or needed replacement parts.

General Nick Carter, who heads the British army, said that the future of the Challenger 2 tanks is decided at the highest level. He confirmed that there was a problem with the tanks. According to him, if nothing is done, then there will be more problems.

Meanwhile, the "sources" (senior officers of the British army) confirmed to the newspaper that the military experts think a lot about the "development of the new Russian main battle tank T-14, presented at the Moscow Victory Parade in May. The "leading minds" of Britain are completely "focused" on this issue.

“Focused” think including the fact that the Russian army expects to get to 2020 year already 2300 machines representing the new generation.

Another task that occupies “minds” is a recent statement by Moscow that it will be forced to take retaliatory measures in order to “restore the balance of power” in Europe, if the United States really renews its nuclear presence in Germany and places twenty B61-12 bombs there (at Büchel airbase in 2015 year).

Retired Major General Patrick Cordingly, who commanded the Desert Rats 7 Armored Brigade and led British troops to defeat Iraqi forces in 1991, said that there are battle tanks in the 100 countries in the world, and there are reasons for that . And for Britain, not to invest in its main battle tank would be “to go against logic.”

“A tank is more than an armament system,” the retired military man believes. - This is a way to make a statement about yourself. If you are trying to rule in another country, it (the tank) helps to carry out your intention. "

But what is the situation with British armored heavyweights?

In 2010, most British tanks were stored. At that time, London strategists focused on an “asymmetric war” in Afghanistan. In 2012, it was even decided to sell the tank building base in Newcastle. The UK base in Germany should also close (until 2019 of the year).

According to the publication, events that have occurred since then, “including the Russian invasion of the Crimea,” showed that the United Kingdom and the rest of NATO countries “should be prepared to consider the Cold War scenarios, which include the usual, symmetrical war in Eastern Europe ". This newspaper said at night "source".

As follows from the material "Express", the British military were afraid of "symmetrical war" with Russia. With tanks.

But the British Foreign Office is afraid of an “asymmetrical” war.

Giving an interview to Reuters, British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond called Russia's actions in Syria "classics of Russian asymmetric warfare."

“A strong propaganda message is proposed stating that something is being done, although in reality something completely different is going on. And if you present evidence, everything is denied outright, "- quotes the words of the head of the British Foreign Ministry "Deutsche Welle".

Hammond believes that Russia today is a threat to the international system: it demonstrates disrespect for diplomatic norms (for example, the “annexation” of the Crimea is called). Nevertheless, the role of Russia in the Middle East is important: “It would not be in our interests to abandon negotiations with the Russians on the situation in Syria because we are strict in assessing what they have done in Ukraine.”

However, Mr. Hammond immediately noted that attempts to negotiate with representatives of Moscow come to a standstill: “You try to speak with the Russians, and they simply repeat their position.”

However, Hammond does not deny that a transitional period is needed to end the civil war in Syria. President Assad could have remained in power “for three days, three weeks, three years, or even longer” (provided that he does not participate in future elections). True, so far, the minister noted, about the transition period "there are no agreements with either the Russians or the Iranians."

To come to such agreements would be rather difficult, we add on our own. While the Western "partners" divide the terrorists into good and bad, into "moderate" and "extremists", Moscow is really fighting the evil in the form of "IS" and that bearded hired rabble that "IS" complements. And the results of the struggle that has begun are already today: according to media reports, Islamist fighters numbering more than three thousand fled from Syria to Jordan. Blows russian aviation they scared all the warriors of Allah - from the IS, Jabhat al-Nusra and Jaish al-Yarmouk factions. The American coalition has not been able to achieve such an effective strike over many months.

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  1. Mihail177 6 October 2015 06: 08 New
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    In addition to harassing Russia and hitting the Ukrainians under the guise of antiquity, small-armored armored vehicles are not capable of anything else.
    1. Igor39 6 October 2015 06: 26 New
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      They are really puzzled, they don’t know what to do and what to think, like the whole "world press" said that after the sanctions of Russia the kapets will soon be a revolution, and here you are bombed by demons far from their borders ....
      1. Alexey Lesogor 6 October 2015 10: 58 New
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        Britain must invest in upgrading its main battle tanks, as the threat of ground war with Russia is increasing

        This is a way to make a statement about yourself. If you are trying to rule in another country, he (the tank) helps to fulfill your intention. "


        Well, who is the aggressor? The mood of the island state is clearly not defensive in nature.
        1. Alena Frolovna 6 October 2015 12: 14 New
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          Well, who is the aggressor?


          If you open any encyclopedia, and now on the Internet you can find information about what you owned, what you put your aristocratic hand on and what the "English crown" lost after some time, then immediately it will not even become very smart for Russian aggression .

          1. gladcu2 6 October 2015 22: 19 New
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            Alena Frolovna.

            On your map, the British Crown has only renamed its territories.
            The British Crown wrote in capital letters, as I am a subject and respect my state.
            But I reserve the right to speak on the merits.

            The British mandate is directly or indirectly carried out through the banking system.
            As has been argued more than once, everyone agrees with this. Until in these countries there are no social tensions.
      2. Observer2014 6 October 2015 22: 01 New
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        "London vs Moscow?"
        Yes, who would doubt it !!! Since the time of Greboyedov !!! This scum, and acted directly under the carbon paper! YEAR YEAR YEAR, FROM DECADE TO CENTURY! So it was!
        And the best thing for them is class, it will appear at the end of the war, as if in a place with a winner. And "divide" his victory on equal terms.
    2. THE_SEAL 6 October 2015 11: 17 New
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      This is where the British pig lover is pinched?
      Let them solve problems in their own country, and they will repair their tanks. And the British army will ride on land rovers instead of tanks
    3. 222222 6 October 2015 13: 26 New
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      Eternal Anglo-Saxon insanity .. and what they can’t sit on the island ?? recourse
      1. Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 21: 45 New
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        Quote: 222222
        Eternal Anglo-Saxon insanity .. and what they can’t sit on the island ?? recourse


        Well, imagine. The British had an empire over which “the sun never set”. The Britons were fat and lazy, living at the expense of the colonies. They decided once again to spoil an empire over which the sun also did not set (Russia). She sent her foster Adolf to Russia. The result was unexpected for the Britons: Adolf committed suicide, Russia was magnified, and Britain lost her very empire. And their place of world predator and gendarme was taken by a young, but daring of the former US colony. Here they are in place and does not sit. Would it be convenient for you to serve your former footman in the place of a British lord? But these are their ambitions and their problems. For us, they are like an old dog on the road, grumbling a lot, sometimes even trying to squeeze, but they can’t bite, their teeth have decayed.
  2. venaya 6 October 2015 06: 10 New
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    D. Cameron is extremely dissatisfied with the "behavior" of Russia in the Middle East. According to him, Russia's military intervention in Syria helps support Assad's “butcher” and “worsens the situation.”

    Not satisfied Would remember better his butcher Cromwell.
    The American coalition has not been able to achieve such an effective strike over many months.

    So what? Did such a task stand, the effectiveness of bombing attacks. They have to save their money, because they invest in both baskets.
  3. Same lech 6 October 2015 06: 11 New
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    The scandalous story told in the book that Cameron was a member of an elite club, the entry into which was preceded by a ritual using a dead pig’s head, hit the front pages of the British media. Against this background, much less attention is paid to more serious issues: for example, in the book, the former chairman of the Conservative Party criticizes Cameron's foreign policy and argues that because of his actions, Libya became "uncontrollable."


    Well, how is it that kind of pork ... and (forgive me LORD) seriously consider ... the pervert transfers his base inclinations to politics.
  4. B- 3ACADE 6 October 2015 06: 23 New
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    Is this British village going to go with his little tanks under the lamb? Judging by his "bazaar", he doesn’t plan to fight with the Russians on his territory. Nudes of luck are a sucker-like monster. I really want to go to this red-haired swanky face. Most Americans put up the British cannot, well, they reciprocate. The historical parallel: fights between sailors in the port of Murmansk during the Second World War.
    1. fennekRUS 6 October 2015 08: 21 New
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      Yes, they beat the hoof, even though they have not been trotters for a long time. I’m interested in something else - this is a translation, or a Freudian clause, - "...If you are trying to rule in another countryDoes he (the tank) help fulfill your intention? "
      In general, the British can’t cope with the IRA at home, Scotland held a referendum on separation, but they also consider themselves “exceptional”
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 October 2015 09: 22 New
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        About Scotland, they are worried. If you look at the map more closely, you can understand that Scotland is not so far from Russia. The Scottish People's Republic is not ISIS. wink
        1. THE_SEAL 6 October 2015 11: 19 New
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          I think it makes sense to sponsor a Scottish branch. Here are the Englishwoman squealing. In Scotland, the base of the submarine fleet.
          1. rosarioagro 6 October 2015 12: 02 New
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            Quote: THE_SEAL
            I think it makes sense to sponsor a Scottish branch. Here are the Englishwoman squealing.

            Yes, my friend, you somewhat lost sight of the fact that there was a referendum on Scotland and it didn’t go anywhere, so your money will be wasted :-)
            1. Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 21: 50 New
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              Quote: rosarioagro
              Quote: THE_SEAL
              I think it makes sense to sponsor a Scottish branch. Here are the Englishwoman squealing.

              Yes, my friend, you somewhat lost sight of the fact that there was a referendum on Scotland and it didn’t go anywhere, so your money will be wasted :-)


              And we will offer them the Minsk Agreements. Perhaps change their minds.
              By the way, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine issued a statement that “the invasion of the Russian troops in Syria is a gross violation of the Minsk agreements” That's it.
    2. gladcu2 6 October 2015 22: 28 New
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      In ambush

      Ask yourself a question. Why do Britons need tanks?

      The answer, but to be. And no more. Shaving on someone else is going to attack? No.
      Is anyone going to attack the Britons? No

      Therefore, the tanks are rusty. It would be surprising if the tanks were serviceable.

      Shaves achieve their goals by other means. Peaceful. :)

      Here you have economists and forensics to help. :)
  5. 1536 6 October 2015 06: 30 New
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    If you choose pea jesters as leaders of the country, it is not surprising if they pour crocodile tears for and without reason. All evening at the arena, no offense to professional clowns be told! Those who make decisions in GB are naturally unhappy because their plans for laying a pipeline from Qatar through Syria and further to Europe are frustrated. The people of Syria interfere with them, and the foster terrorists are quite happy, because there is an outflow of the most dissatisfied radicals from England itself to the ranks of terrorists in the Middle Votok. And if they return to their island, then the circus tent will resemble a ragged ant hill. This is what they are afraid of.
  6. Bazilevs81 6 October 2015 06: 56 New
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    How hypocritical is the world !!! Here is 1 of the commandments Do not bear false witness against your neighbor. What do they expect after death. ???
    1. gladcu2 6 October 2015 23: 00 New
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      Bazilevs81

      You raised a good topic. Now I will give you revelations from which you will become even more sick. Nevertheless, it is worth paying attention to them in order to understand how the world works.

      Lying.

      Lying is very hard. In order to lie, it is necessary to create conditions for people to believe. To create, you need accomplices. Those. people who would confirm this lie. Finding an honest person who would confirm a lie is not possible. So you need the same liar, but motivated. How to motivate? Money!?
      No matter how much you pay, the result will be blackmail. Does not work.
      Fear!? Yes, fear. It is fear that makes an accomplice a friend. This is not irony. This is reality. Just a friend. But subordinates. Those. you take the lead. In the generally accepted norm, this cannot be a friend. But the link between only very close friends is very strong. Thus, criminal communities gather on lies. States and alliances are being built.

      It is true.

      It’s easy to tell the truth. Here it is, on the surface. It is obvious. One who never lies cannot be a leader. Because, as he will not have motivated friends, pals, accomplices. He who speaks the truth must be strong and lonely. And it’s strong because it wouldn’t get too tough for the truth from a group of false accomplices.

      What I told you clearly shows how society works. And governed by the state.

      I ask you to pay attention to how, without irony, my respected GDP shows its leadership. Around GDP is a liberal government designed to destroy the state. But nonetheless, GDP has a direct pro-national policy. How? But like this. Because this gang is connected with him with motives that are not customary to talk about. Remember Vasiliev and Serdyukov.
      Now tell yourself. But in another way?

      Therefore, carry GDP on hand so that the fur world does not come to the whole world. So, as long as only he manages to get along with this fur-bearing animal.
  7. mamont5 6 October 2015 07: 03 New
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    London has always been against Moscow. Even during World War II, when we were forced allies.
    1. Lyton 6 October 2015 07: 57 New
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      And a hundred years ago, Russia interfered with them and is now interfering, nothing has changed, maybe the Anglo-Saxons can look in the mirror.
      1. Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 21: 55 New
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        Quote: Lyton
        And a hundred years ago, Russia interfered with them and is now interfering, nothing has changed, maybe the Anglo-Saxons can look in the mirror.


        Imagine, and 200 years ago it interfered. It was they who sent money patels and through their agent Palen organized a state in Russia. coup. They killed with the hands of the drunken guardsmen of the Russian Emperor Pavel 1 Petrovich. Do not happen to be a union of Paul with Napoleon. Not to be the Patriotic War of 1812. And India would be a pearl in the crown of only the Russian and not the British Empire. So that.
  8. Vasyan1971 6 October 2015 07: 23 New
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    "... If you are trying to rule in another country, he (the tank) helps to realize your intention ..."
    And in what "other country" have the arrogant Saxons gathered to rule?
  9. Born in USSR 6 October 2015 07: 27 New
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    Arrogant Saxons have always fouled us. They sit on their tin island and blather. In life, dirty tricks, by the way according to prophecy, will wash off this island, on this occasion they even gathered at the UN. The bastards are awakening.
    1. vovanpain 6 October 2015 08: 15 New
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      If it is washed away into the ocean, this is a bunch of house dogs of the Washington Fuhrer, and the road to them
    2. Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 21: 57 New
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      Quote: Born in the USSR
      Arrogant Saxons have always fouled us. They sit on their tin island and blather. In life, dirty tricks, by the way according to prophecy, will wash off this island, on this occasion they even gathered at the UN. The bastards are awakening.


      The “Mace" life-giving will help to come true.
  10. Volzhanin 6 October 2015 08: 13 New
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    Where is London? Not on that dirty islet that will soon wash off the ocean?
  11. parusnik 6 October 2015 08: 21 New
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    British Prime Minister D. Cameron is extremely dissatisfied with the "behavior" of Russia in the Middle East...Of course, on my beloved, on the mazol .. laughing
  12. press officer 6 October 2015 08: 30 New
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    Quote: B- 3ACADE
    Is this British village going to go with his little tanks under the lamb? Judging by his "bazaar" on his territory, he does not plan to fight with the Russians. A nude good luck monster is a nude to you.



    That heh ... nya question! We ourselves can come to him! yes Do we have larger aircraft for transporting tanks? repeat
    Do you know that they can be weaned once and for all to bark in our direction? Only slaughter in their countries! In the mattress and british shavok! soldier Only then will they understand at least something ... but they will not understand ... they are worse .. or better .. wassat Just sitting behind a puddle from the whole world imagines themselves to be gods .. It's time to lower them to the ground .. and DROP! am
  13. V.ic 6 October 2015 09: 17 New
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    Hammond does not deny that a transition period is needed to end the civil war in Syria. President Assad could have stayed in power “for three days, three weeks, three years, or even longer” (provided that he would not participate in future elections).

    Conditions puts a hell. Well, this is "we will see", but let his "Wishlist" shoved into his pants.
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  15. made13 6 October 2015 09: 23 New
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    Cameron, as a kindergarten teacher, is trying to make Russia a-ta-ta. Such statements impudently show their true face and attitude towards us.
  16. Oznob 6 October 2015 09: 30 New
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    Lol, piggirl negodue wassat
  17. Zheka40 6 October 2015 10: 09 New
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    "Trying to speak with the Russians, and they just repeat their position." Liked).
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  19. Denis Skiff 6 October 2015 10: 47 New
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    so gather all this shusher of Scientology ministers of satanists from fashington england france and germany and finish off or isolate them to dog fucking.
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  21. Stinger 6 October 2015 11: 48 New
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    And where are they going to plow open spaces on their tanks? They even drive in the opposite direction in cars on their island. On the left side of the road. They will fuse their armored trash to the Baltic states and this will end the modernization.
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    This is where it comes from.
  23. Belousov 6 October 2015 12: 53 New
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    Of course, he will be dissatisfied with the behavior of Russia. After all, they invested so much in ISIS, they advertised there through the media (it’s what they advertised, otherwise they would have simply imposed a ban on any mention in the media, like the situation in Donbas), and here the Russians are pouring in, they have established a no-fly zone and bombing bearded “one children” like God the turtle! soldier Neither permission is asked nor is they informed of the timing and goals so that equipment and people can be withdrawn. Why, they bombed for sure, they didn’t smash a single wedding or hospital, barbarians! crying It seems like they are fighting the terrorists, you can’t say anything against it, but admit that the Russians have done more than a “coalition” in a week (why do you always want to call her a cesspool? request lol ) over the past year and a half is simply indelible disgrace and political death forever.
  24. Turkir 6 October 2015 14: 12 New
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    Cameron babbles "bros", so long as they forget about his "love" for pigs ..
  25. Geser 6 October 2015 14: 21 New
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    The British always put sticks in the wheels of Russia, tried to arrange with us their "color revolutions". For example, they organized a coup in which Emperor Paul the First was killed, having planted his protege his son Alexander. There is even a saying - "Englishwoman shits"! This saying reflected the attitude of England to all non-English. As for the British tanks, the British shredded heavily. Previously, they were proud that they dominated the sea, and now they only think about how to upgrade tanks. Also, not about what Cameron thinks. Instead of preparing to send English soldiers to distant lands, you should take a closer look at what is happening in England itself. The number of white people is declining, migrants are already beginning to openly cut the streets of the British. In this situation, it is no longer possible to participate in wars; one will have to think about how to fight on their territory.
  26. semuil 6 October 2015 15: 16 New
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    Columbus has not yet been born, and the Britons have already spoiled us.
  27. Olezhek 6 October 2015 15: 20 New
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    London vs Moscow?


    I do not believe!! belay
    Always were friends - and then suddenly ...
    The author slanders David Cameron ...
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  29. pazuhinm 6 October 2015 15: 49 New
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    My question is: why did they put a question mark in the title of the article?

    And the proposal to the "partners": upgrade the tanks so that you can plow them. It’s more cost effective.
  30. Prishliy 6 October 2015 17: 22 New
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    Well, here is Nicrofil Pig lover in the same dudu
  31. Prohur 6 October 2015 17: 35 New
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    strange this cameroon) because in our time a couple of bombs will be enough to wash away England, he is in his right mind in general.
  32. stas-xnumx 6 October 2015 18: 09 New
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    And the funny thing is that this "problem" is actively discussed by the so-called "higher" officers of Britain, because they all graduated from higher military establishments, were at combat points, so what the hell are they teaching there? Bazaars bazaar and be afraid of the shadows of their own ???
  33. GYGOLA 6 October 2015 18: 31 New
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    The only thing I respect this country for is Arthur Conan Doyle and his Sherlock Holmes, an eternal hit. And then in the person of sulfur Livanov !!!
  34. ssn18 6 October 2015 20: 00 New
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    I apologize for my French, but the opinion of the little shaves is still of interest to someone?
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    Good old England ... Let syphilis strike you, old s..ka! (-English novelist Richard Aldington)