London vs Moscow?

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British Prime Minister David Cameron is extremely dissatisfied with Russia's "behavior" in the Middle East. According to him, Russia's military intervention in Syria helps support the "butcher" Assad and "worsens the situation." Meanwhile, military experts and officers in the UK have begun to speculate about heightening tensions between Russia and NATO and the need to “modernize Tanks».



According to British Prime Minister David Cameron, quoted as saying "BBC"The Russian military sees no difference in Syria between Islamist and opposition militants fighting against Syrian President Assad. Mr. Cameron said this at a speech in Oxfordshire.

In his opinion, Russia's military intervention "actually made the situation even worse." D. Cameron called Syrian President B. Assad a "butcher", his rule was a "regime" and said: the Arab world is right, "condemning Russia for its deeds."

British newspaper "Express" published an article on its pages under the heading "UK must prepare for WAR with Russia: Army calls for fleet of battle tanks to take on Putin". This means that Great Britain should prepare for war with Russia, and this preparation must begin with tanks.

Britain should invest in modernizing its main battle tanks as the threat of a land war with Russia grows, the newspaper notes.

This "threat" is reported by British officers. It is expressed in the form of tension in relations between the NATO states and Moscow. In addition, the Russians threaten "nuclear countermeasures" in connection with the news about nuclear facilities in Germany.

David Cameron, continues the publication, is trying to find a "compromise" with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the fight against the terrorist group "IS" in Syria, however "Super Tank" led senior British Army officers to realize that the prospects for traditional ground warfare in Eastern Europe can no longer be ignored. "

The British Army currently has 227 Challenger 2 main battle tanks. This is a real force, but "they are in dire need of modernization."

Last year, the British army took part in a NATO exercise in Poland with more than a hundred armored vehicles. Operation Black Eagle highlighted the ability of the British army to "deploy an armored battle formation at short notice anywhere in the world in support of the Allies."

But the newspaper Express got wind of the fact that native Great Britain (unlike the aforementioned NATO allies) is not able to deploy a full tank squadron (14 tanks plus two in reserve) in thirty days.

It took more than three months to train some of the tanks! It took so long to prepare them because the cars were in storage or needed to be replaced.

General Nick Carter, head of the British Army, said that the future of the Challenger 2 tanks is being decided at the highest level. He confirmed there was a problem with the tanks. According to him, if nothing is done, then there will be more problems.

Meanwhile, "sources" (senior officers in the British army) confirmed to the newspaper that military experts think a lot about "the development of the new Russian main battle tank T-14, presented at the Moscow Victory Parade in May. Britain's "leading minds" are completely "focused" on this issue.

The “Focused” think, among other things, that the Russian army expects to receive as many as 2020 vehicles by 2300, representing a new generation.

Another challenge that has occupied "minds" is Moscow's recent announcement that it will be forced to retaliate in order to "restore the balance of power" in Europe if the US does indeed renew its nuclear presence in Germany and deploy twenty B61-12 bombs there. (at Büchel airbase in 2015).

Retired Major General Patrick Cordingly, who commanded the 7th Armored Brigade Desert Rats and led British forces to victory over Iraqi forces in 1991, said 100 countries in the world have battle tanks for good reason. ... And for Britain, not investing in its main battle tank would be "going against logic."

“A tank is more than a weapon system,” said the retired military man. - This is a way to make a statement about yourself. If you are trying to rule in another country, he (the tank) helps to fulfill your intention. "

But what is the state of affairs with the British armored heavyweights?

In 2010, most of the British tanks were put into storage. At the time, London strategists focused on the "asymmetric war" in Afghanistan. In 2012, it was even decided to sell the tank building base in Newcastle. The UK base in Germany is also due to close (by 2019).

As the newspaper points out, the events that have taken place since then, "including the Russian invasion of Crimea," have shown that Britain and the rest of NATO "must be prepared to consider Cold War scenarios, which include a conventional, symmetrical war in Eastern Europe. ". The "source" told the newspaper about this at night.

As follows from the material "Express", the British military were afraid of a "symmetrical war" with Russia. With tanks.

But the British Foreign Office is afraid of an "asymmetric" war.

In an interview with Reuters, British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond called Russia's actions in Syria "a classic of Russian asymmetric warfare."

“A strong propaganda message is being offered stating that something is being done when in reality something completely different is happening. And if you show evidence, everything is flatly denied, "- quotes the words of the head of the British Foreign Ministry "Deutsche Welle".

Hammond believes that Russia today poses a threat to the international system: it shows disrespect for diplomatic norms (as an example, the "annexation" of Crimea is called). Nevertheless, the role of Russia in the Middle East is important: "It would not be in our interests to refuse to negotiate with the Russians on the situation in Syria due to the fact that we are strict in our assessments of what they have done in Ukraine."

However, Mr. Hammond immediately noted that attempts to negotiate with representatives of Moscow come to a standstill: "You try to talk to the Russians, and they just repeat their position."

However, Hammond does not deny that a transitional period is needed to end the civil war in Syria. President Assad could remain in power for “three days, three weeks, three years or even longer” (provided he does not participate in future elections). However, so far, the minister noted, "there are no agreements with either the Russians or the Iranians about the transition period."

It would be rather difficult to come to such agreements, we add. While Western "partners" divide terrorists into good and bad, into "moderate" and "extremists", Moscow is waging a real fight against the evil in the form of "IS" and that bearded mercenary rabble that "IS" complements. And the results of the struggle begun are already there: according to media reports, more than three thousand Islamist militants fled from Syria to Jordan. Russian blows aviation frightened all the warriors of Allah - from the "IS", "Jabhat al-Nusra" and "Jaysh al-Yarmuk" groups. The American coalition has not been able to achieve such effectiveness of strikes for many months.

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  1. +13
    6 October 2015 06: 08
    Except how to hait Russia and under the guise of vparivat khokhlov antique armored vehicles small-shaven are not capable of anything else.
    1. +4
      6 October 2015 06: 26
      They are really puzzled, do not know what to do and what to think, like the whole "world press" said that after the sanctions of Russia, there will be a revolution soon, and here on you, it is bombing demons far from their borders ...
      1. +1
        6 October 2015 10: 58
        Britain should invest in upgrading its main battle tanks as the threat of a ground war with Russia increases

        This is a way to make a statement about yourself. If you are trying to rule in another country, he (the tank) helps to fulfill your intention. "


        So who is the aggressor? The mood of the island state is clearly not defensive in nature.
        1. +3
          6 October 2015 12: 14
          So who is the aggressor?


          If you open any encyclopedia, and now on the Internet you can find information about what they owned, what they put their aristocratic little hand on and what the "English crown" lost after some time, then immediately even a not very smart person will become clear about Russian aggression ...

          1. 0
            6 October 2015 22: 19
            Alena Frolovna.

            On your map, the British Crown has just renamed its territories.
            I wrote the British Crown, in capital letters, as I am a subject and respect my state.
            But I reserve the right to speak to the point.

            The British Mandate is directly or indirectly carried out through the banking system.
            As has been stated more than once, everyone agrees. As long as there are no social tensions in these countries.
      2. +1
        6 October 2015 22: 01
        "London vs. Moscow?"
        Who would have doubted !!! Since the time of Greboedov !!! This scum, and acted like this, right under the blueprint! From year to year, from decade to century! And so it was!
        And the most class for them, it will appear at the end of the war, as it were, in a place with the winner. And "divide" his victory on equal terms.
    2. +1
      6 October 2015 11: 17
      This is where the British pig lover is pinching?
      Let him solve problems in his country, and repair his tanks. And the British army will ride Land Rovers instead of tanks
    3. 0
      6 October 2015 13: 26
      The eternal Anglo-Saxon marasmus .. and that they do not sit on the island ?? recourse
      1. 0
        6 October 2015 21: 45
        Quote: 222222
        The eternal Anglo-Saxon marasmus .. and that they do not sit on the island ?? recourse


        Well, just imagine. The British had an empire over which "the sun never set." Shaved fat and lazy living off the colonies. Once again, they decided to shit on the empire over which the sun also did not set (Russia). She sent her foster-son, Adolf, to Russia. The result was unexpected for the Britons: Adolf committed suicide, Russia exalted, and Britain lost that very empire. And their place as a world predator and gendarme was taken by a young but daring former US colony. Here they do not sit still. Would you be comfortable serving your former footman in the place of a British lord? But these are their ambitions and their problems. For us, they are like an old dog on the road - they grumble a lot, sometimes even try to bite, but they can't bite anymore - their teeth are rotten.
  2. +1
    6 October 2015 06: 10
    D. Cameron is extremely dissatisfied with the "behavior" of Russia in the Middle East. According to him, Russia's military intervention in Syria helps support the "butcher" Assad and "worsens the situation."

    Dissatisfied? Would have remembered better his butcher Cromwell.
    The American coalition has not been able to achieve such effectiveness of strikes for many months.

    So what? Was there such a task, the effectiveness of bomb strikes. They need to save their money, because they invest in both baskets.
  3. +3
    6 October 2015 06: 11
    The scandalous story told in the book that in his student years Cameron was in an elite club, the entry into which was preceded by a ritual using the head of a dead pig, got on the front pages of the British media. Against this background, much less attention is paid to more serious issues: for example, in the book, the former chairman of the Conservative Party criticizes Cameron's foreign policy and claims that because of his actions, Libya has become "uncontrollable."


    Well, how is such a pork ... and (forgive me, GOD) seriously consider ... the pervert transfers his base inclinations to politics.
  4. +3
    6 October 2015 06: 23
    This British villager is going to go with his tanchiki under the lamanche or what? Judging by his "bazaar" on his territory, he does not plan to fight the Russians. Nu nude good luck is a loch-ness monster. One just wants to stop by this red-haired swaggering face. The British cannot, well, they reciprocate. Historical parallel: fights between sailors in the port of Murmansk during the Second World War.
    1. 0
      6 October 2015 08: 21
      Yes, they beat with a hoof, although they have not been trotters for a long time. I'm interested in something else - is this a translation, or a Freudian slip of the tongue - "...If you are trying to rule in another country, he (the tank) helps to fulfill your intention "?
      In general, the Britons cannot cope with the IRA at home, Scotland held a referendum on secession, but they also consider themselves "exceptional"
      1. +1
        6 October 2015 09: 22
        They are worried about Scotland. If you look at the map more closely, you can understand that Scotland is not so far from the Russian Federation. The Scottish People's Republic is not ISIS for them. wink
        1. +1
          6 October 2015 11: 19
          I think it makes sense to sponsor a branch of Scotland. Here are the English girls screaming. Scotland has a submarine base.
          1. 0
            6 October 2015 12: 02
            Quote: THE_SEAL
            I think it makes sense to sponsor a branch of Scotland. Here are the English girls screaming.

            Yes, my friend, you somewhat missed the fact that there was a referendum on Scotland and it did not go anywhere, so your money will be down the drain :-)
            1. 0
              6 October 2015 21: 50
              Quote: rosarioagro
              Quote: THE_SEAL
              I think it makes sense to sponsor a branch of Scotland. Here are the English girls screaming.

              Yes, my friend, you somewhat missed the fact that there was a referendum on Scotland and it did not go anywhere, so your money will be down the drain :-)


              And we will offer them the Minsk Agreements. Perhaps they will change their minds.
              By the way, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine issued a statement that "the invasion of Russian troops into Syria is a gross violation of the Minsk agreements."
    2. 0
      6 October 2015 22: 28
      In ambush

      Ask yourself a question. Why do Britt have tanks?

      The answer is, but to be. And no more. Are Brita going to attack someone? No.
      Is someone going to attack the Brit? No

      Therefore, the tanks are rusty. It would be surprising if the tanks were serviceable.

      Brits achieve their goals by other means. Peaceful. :)

      Here economists and criminologists will help you. :)
  5. +2
    6 October 2015 06: 30
    If you choose pea jesters as leaders of the country, then there is nothing surprising if they shed crocodile tears for and without reason. All evening on the arena, no offense to professional clowns, be told! Those who make decisions in GB are naturally dissatisfied, because their plans to lay a pipeline from Qatar through Syria and on to Europe are thwarted. The people of Syria are hindering them, and the fostered terrorists are quite happy with it, because there is an outflow of the most dissatisfied radicals from England itself into the ranks of terrorists in the Middle Votok. And if they return to their island, then the circus tent will resemble a scattered anthill. This is what they are afraid of.
  6. +2
    6 October 2015 06: 56
    How hypocritical is the world !!! Here is 1 of the commandments Do not bear false witness against your neighbor. What do they expect after death. ???
    1. +1
      6 October 2015 23: 00
      Bazilevs81

      You have raised a good topic. Now I will give you revelations from which you will feel even more sick. However, you should pay attention to them in order to understand how the world works.

      Lying.

      Lying is very hard. In order to lie, you need to create conditions for people to believe. To create, you need accomplices. Those. people who would confirm this lie. It is not possible to find an honest person who would confirm a lie. So you need the same liar, but motivated. How to motivate? Money!?
      No matter how much you pay, the result will be blackmail. Does not work.
      Fear!? Yes, fear. It is fear that makes an accomplice a friend. This is not irony. This is reality. Precisely a friend. But subordinates. Those. you take the lead. In the generally accepted norm, this cannot be a friend. But the connecting link among only very close friends is very strong. Thus, criminal communities gather on lies. States and alliances are being built.

      It is true.

      It's easy to tell the truth. Here it is, on the surface. It is obvious. One who never lies cannot be a leader. Because he will not have motivated friends, acquaintances, accomplices. Whoever speaks the truth must be strong and alone. And strong because for this truth not to get in the teeth from a group of deceitful accomplices.

      What I told you shows exactly how society works. And they are governed by states.

      I ask you to pay attention to how, without irony, the respected VVP is showing its leadership. Around the GDP is a liberal government, which is designed to destroy the state. But nevertheless, the GDP is pursuing a direct pro-national policy. How? That's how. Because this gang of watering cans is tied to him with motives that are not customary to talk about. Remember Vasilyeva and Serdyukov.
      Now tell yourself. How else?

      Therefore, carry the GDP in your hands so that the fur animal does not come to the whole world. So far, only he manages to get along with this fur-bearing animal.
  7. +1
    6 October 2015 07: 03
    London has always been against Moscow. Even during the Second World War, when we were forced allies.
    1. +3
      6 October 2015 07: 57
      And a hundred years ago Russia hindered them and now hinders them, nothing has changed, maybe the Anglo-Saxons can look in the mirror.
      1. 0
        6 October 2015 21: 55
        Quote: Lyton
        And a hundred years ago Russia hindered them and now hinders them, nothing has changed, maybe the Anglo-Saxons can look in the mirror.


        Imagine, and interfered 200 years ago. It was they who sent the money and, through their agent Palen, organized the state in Russia. coup. They killed the hands of drunken guards of the Russian Emperor Paul 1 Petrovich. If this did not happen, to be an alliance of Paul with Napoleon. There would be no Patriotic War of 1812. And India would be the pearl in the crown of the Russian Empire, not the British Empire. So that.
  8. +2
    6 October 2015 07: 23
    "... If you are trying to rule in another country, he (the tank) helps to carry out your intention ..."
    And in what "other country" the Naglo-Saxons gathered to rule?
  9. +7
    6 October 2015 07: 27
    The Naglo-Saxons have always played a dirty trick on us. They sit on their tin island and blather. In life, the dirty tricks, by the way, according to the prophecy, will wash away this island, on this occasion they even gathered at the UN. The bastards are barking.
    1. +9
      6 October 2015 08: 15
      If this congregation of the Washington Fuehrer's lapdogs washes into the ocean, they will go there.
    2. 0
      6 October 2015 21: 57
      Quote: Born in the USSR
      The Naglo-Saxons have always played a dirty trick on us. They sit on their tin island and blather. In life, the dirty tricks, by the way, according to the prophecy, will wash away this island, on this occasion they even gathered at the UN. The bastards are barking.


      The life-giving Mace will help the prophecy come true.
  10. +3
    6 October 2015 08: 13
    Where is London? Not on that dirty island that will soon wash away the ocean?
  11. +1
    6 October 2015 08: 21
    British Prime Minister David Cameron is extremely dissatisfied with Russia's "behavior" in the Middle East...Although, for my beloved, for mazol .. laughing
  12. +4
    6 October 2015 08: 30
    Quote: B- 3ACADE
    This British village is going to go with his tanchiki under the La Manche or what? Judging by his "bazaar" on his territory, he does not plan to fight the Russians.



    That he ... nya question! We can come to him ourselves! Yes Do we have big planes for transporting tanks? feel
    Do you know that they can wean them once and for all from barking in our direction? Only carnage in their countries! In a mattress and british hawks! soldier Only then will they understand at least something ... and will not understand .. they are worse .. or better .. wassat Just sitting behind a puddle from the whole world imagined themselves to be gods .. It's time to lower them to the ground .. and Bury them! am
  13. +1
    6 October 2015 09: 17
    Hammond does not deny that a transitional period is needed to end the civil war in Syria. President Assad could remain in power for “three days, three weeks, three years or even longer” (provided he does not participate in future elections).

    The conditions are set by the meaner. Well, this "we will look", but let him put his "Wishlist" in his fly.
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  15. 0
    6 October 2015 09: 23
    Cameron, as a kindergarten teacher, is trying to make Russia a-ta-ta. Such statements impudently show their true face and attitude towards us.
  16. 0
    6 October 2015 09: 30
    Lol, piggy poker negodue wassat
  17. +6
    6 October 2015 10: 09
    "You try to talk to the Russians, and they just repeat their position." Liked).
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  19. +1
    6 October 2015 10: 47
    so gather all this rag-tag of Scientology ministers of Satanists from Fashington, England, France and Germany and finish off or isolate the fucking dog.
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  21. +1
    6 October 2015 11: 48
    And where are they going to surf in their tanks? They even drive in cars on their island in the opposite lane. On the left side of the road. They will fuse their armored trash to the Balts and this will end the modernization.
  22. mmk
    0
    6 October 2015 12: 23
    It goes where it comes from.
  23. +1
    6 October 2015 12: 53
    Of course he will be dissatisfied with Russia's behavior. After all, they invested so much in ISIS, they promoted through the media (exactly what they were promoting, otherwise they would have simply imposed a ban on any mention in the media, as on the situation in Donbas), and then the Russians are pouring in, in fact, they established a no-fly zone and bombed the bearded "onizhedets" like God turtle! soldier Neither permission is asked, nor is it informed of the terms and goals, so that the equipment and people could be taken away. Why, they are bombing for sure, not a single wedding or hospital was destroyed, barbarians! crying It seems that they are at war with terrorists too, you can’t say anything against it, but to admit that the Russians have done more in a week than a "coalition" (why do you constantly want to call it a cesspool? request lol ) over the past year and a half, this is just an indelible shame and political death forever and ever.
  24. 0
    6 October 2015 14: 12
    Cameron chatters "bros" so that they forget about his "love" for pigs ..
  25. 0
    6 October 2015 14: 21
    The British have always put a spoke in the wheels of Russia, tried to arrange their "color revolutions" in our country. For example, they organized a coup in which the Emperor Paul I was killed, imprisoning his protege, his son Alexander. There is even such a saying - "The Englishwoman crap"! This proverb reflected the attitude of England towards everything non-English. As for the British tanks, the British crushed them heavily. They used to pride themselves on having dominion over the sea, but now they only think about how to upgrade their tanks. Plus, that's not what Cameron is thinking. Instead of getting ready to send English soldiers to distant lands, you should take a closer look at what is happening in England itself. The number of the white population is declining, migrants are already beginning to cut openly on the streets of the British. In this situation, it is no longer up to participation in wars, you will have to think about how to fight on your territory.
  26. 0
    6 October 2015 15: 16
    Columbus was not born yet, and the Britons already shit on us at all.
  27. +1
    6 October 2015 15: 20
    London vs Moscow?


    I do not believe!! belay
    Always were friends - and then suddenly ...
    The author slanders David Cameron ...
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  29. 0
    6 October 2015 15: 49
    I have a question: why did they put a question mark in the title of the article?

    And a proposal to the "partners": upgrade the tanks so that you can plow on them. It is more cost effective.
  30. 0
    6 October 2015 17: 22
    Well, here is Nikrophil the pig-lover in the same tune
  31. +1
    6 October 2015 17: 35
    strange this Cameroon) because in our time a couple of bombs are enough to wash away England, he is in his right mind in general.
  32. 0
    6 October 2015 18: 09
    And the funniest thing is that this "problem" is actively discussed by the so-called "higher" officers of Britain, because they all graduated from higher military institutions, visited combat points, so what the hell are they taught there? Bazaars bazaar and be afraid of their own shadows ???
  33. +1
    6 October 2015 18: 31
    The only thing for which I respect this country is for Arthur Conan Doyle and his Sherlock Holmes - an eternal hit. And then in the person of Ser Livanov !!!
  34. 0
    6 October 2015 20: 00
    I beg your pardon for my French, but who is interested in the opinion of the small-shavens?
  35. Viktortopwar
    0
    6 October 2015 21: 38
    Good old England ... May syphilis hit you, old s..ka! (-English novelist Richard Aldington)