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Media: successful "work" of the Su-34 in Syria will lead to contracts for its delivery

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Successful use of Sy-Su-34 in Syria will surely arouse interest in this machine among foreign military departments. Perhaps even those countries that traditionally exploit Western equipment will want to buy them, writes Roman Katkov in an article for Messenger of Mordovia.


Media: successful "work" of the Su-34 in Syria will lead to contracts for its delivery


Su-34 was first shown 20 years ago at Le Bourget. Even then, a number of states showed interest in him, but they did not risk buying: the aircraft only began to test, and it was not clear whether “they would bring it to mind” in the conditions of the collapse of the Russian industry.

“At present, all the children's diseases of the Thirty-Fours have been eliminated, the bomber has been successfully operated by the troops. Critics of this complex like to say that in advanced countries they abandoned specialized machines and currently only buy multi-purpose airplanes. But, the fact is that Su-34 is such, - writes Katkov. - It can successfully fight with both air and ground targets, using the most modern high-precision weapon. Only, unlike foreign cars, the crew of the Russian aircraft is in an all-welded armored titanium capsule, which significantly increases the chances of surviving the battle. ”



Before Syria, the aircraft had combat experience in 2008 in Georgia.

In one of the reports, the RF Ministry of Defense noted: “Russian Su-34 delivered pinpoint strikes against targets from a height of more than 5 000 meters. The airborne sighting and navigation equipment of these aircraft ensures that they can hit any ground targets with absolute precision. ”

According to Katkov, representatives of foreign air forces will be interested in the multifunctional combat complex, which will lead to contracts for the sale of these aircraft.
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  1. prabiz
    prabiz 5 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +51
    In Syria, the best advertising SU-34!
    1. trenitron
      trenitron 5 October 2015 10: 48 New
      +29
      Yes, I would have bought myself one lol
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 5 October 2015 10: 59 New
        +27
        Quote: trenitron
        Yes, I would have bought myself one lol

        In turn, I still borrowed from the evening. lol
        1. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 11: 08 New
          +18
          You weren’t standing here!
          1. kil 31
            kil 31 5 October 2015 11: 21 New
            +26
            Quote: Petergofsky73
            You weren’t standing here!

            This man will confirm. I borrowed after him. yes
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 38 New
              +10
              Quote: Kil 31
              This man will confirm. I borrowed him



              Hmm ... outwitted everyone ...

              Get your Su-34 ... Hunting fishing, mushrooms - that’s it ... From above - everything is visible ...
              1. kil 31
                kil 31 5 October 2015 11: 57 New
                +9
                Quote: veksha50
                Quote: Kil 31
                This man will confirm. I borrowed him



                Hmm ... outwitted everyone ...

                Get your Su-34 ... Hunting fishing, mushrooms - that’s it ... From above - everything is visible ...

                You need to know who to take the turn for. wink hi
                1. veksha50
                  veksha50 5 October 2015 13: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Kil 31
                  You need to know who to take the turn of



                  Well, yes, yes ... and who the rivals will not ask about in turn ...

                  Successful fishing-hunting drying ...
                  1. kil 31
                    kil 31 5 October 2015 13: 41 New
                    +4
                    Quote: veksha50
                    Quote: Kil 31
                    You need to know who to take the turn of



                    Well, yes, yes ... and who the rivals will not ask about in turn ...

                    Successful fishing-hunting drying ...

                    I have such a plan for the weekend. 1. On Saturday, fly to Tanzania to buy a license (licenses are sold there, to shoot old rejected baboons) I think it will cost $ 20 2. On Sunday I'll fly to Pennsylvania Avenue, 1600, people who know said there is game. hi
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                    2. gjv
                      gjv 5 October 2015 14: 31 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Kil 31
                      On Sunday I will fly to Pennsylvania Avenue, 1600, knowledgeable people said there is game.

                      Two game, Igor. We must take Senya as a co-pilot.
                      Senya, game ...

                      1. kil 31
                        kil 31 5 October 2015 19: 40 New
                        0
                        Quote: gjv
                        Quote: Kil 31
                        On Sunday I will fly to Pennsylvania Avenue, 1600, knowledgeable people said there is game.

                        Two game, Igor. We must take Senya as a co-pilot.
                        Senya, game ...


                        I’m not better myself, otherwise he will start to sing songs about hares, to kick with his feet. This is not a restaurant broke the window and mirror and the whole business. I have a new SUSHKA, suddenly he will scratch my torpedo in the dance with his feet. laughing hi
                    3. veksha50
                      veksha50 5 October 2015 19: 22 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Kil 31
                      2. On Sunday I will fly to Pennsylvania Avenue, 1600, knowledgeable people said there is game.



                      Better immediately on point 2 ... Well, they are in figs, baboons, they won’t go anywhere ... Shoot better than the main baboon - he is difficult to train and climbed into the wrong cage ...

                      Good luck on the hunt ... bully
                      1. kil 31
                        kil 31 5 October 2015 19: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: veksha50
                        Quote: Kil 31
                        2. On Sunday I will fly to Pennsylvania Avenue, 1600, knowledgeable people said there is game.



                        Better immediately on point 2 ... Well, they are in figs, baboons, they won’t go anywhere ... Shoot better than the main baboon - he is difficult to train and climbed into the wrong cage ...

                        Good luck on the hunt ... bully

                        And I'm talking about whom. And I cannot be a law-abiding citizen without a license. The world will wait one day, two terms have been waiting, and one day will fly by in an instant. hi
            2. Rostovchanin
              Rostovchanin 5 October 2015 12: 51 New
              +5

              The Su-24m is also making a noise ... 30 units of armored vehicles are reported
        2. nik39reg
          nik39reg 5 October 2015 13: 28 New
          0
          Guys! Who is the extreme? Is the queue live or by appointment? winked
      2. finderektor
        finderektor 5 October 2015 20: 08 New
        -1
        And we will fight.
    2. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 5 October 2015 10: 50 New
      +14
      The main thing is to identify all the jambs of the car in real combat conditions and level them through improvements! Contracts - Series 2. The best (cult) machines of our aviation defense industry complex passed Korea, Vietnam, the Middle East and Africa, and it was there that they earned their names.
      1. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 5 October 2015 11: 09 New
        +7
        Air Force captain
        The main thing is to identify all the jambs of the car in real combat conditions and level them through improvements!

        This is the most important thing ... for this is the basis of the high combat capability of our Armed Forces to ensure defense capability ... Protect the country!
        "Vesnik of Mordovia" is a very solid publication for advertising military equipment. I have no doubt that all military experts of the world "read it excitedly" and already, only after reading this article, they "lined up" for signing contracts ...
        Although, to be honest ... I always thought that the BEST ADVERTISING IS THE EFFICIENCY OF USING THESE OR OTHER SAMPLES B / T IN REAL BATTLE APPLICATION!
        And no matter how many states they would like to acquire something, but as long as the US military-industrial complex exists, the Washington Regional Committee will not allow anyone to riot in its military market! The profits of your military-industrial complex for the Yankees - primarily ... everything else ... the effectiveness of combat use ... the wishes of other countries .. ALL THIS IS SECONDARY! For those who are dull, there are various Maidans and "color" revolutions ... and for the heads of these states, there is a prison in US prisons!
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 5 October 2015 11: 27 New
          +5
          In vain you laugh. "Herald of Mordovia" is a very authoritative publication that often issues exclusive information on military issues and is often referred to by other publications.
    3. Sauron80
      Sauron80 5 October 2015 10: 51 New
      +2
      So is the Ministry of Defense in vain perhaps telling in detail who, when, with what and from which planes they bombed? )) Such a great advertisement))
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 5 October 2015 11: 05 New
        +11
        Quote: Sauron80
        Such a great advertisement

        more advertisement bully
        1. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 11: 13 New
          +3
          Does anyone understand what they are doing? I understood only: "Rus, Rus gyr-gyr, gyr-gyr ,,,, ... ohhh ... ALLA ... yes you are a couple ..sarukh ????
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 5 October 2015 11: 25 New
            +12
            Quote: Petergofsky73
            Does anyone understand what they are doing? I understood only: "Rus, Rus gyr-gyr, gyr-gyr ,,,, ... ohhh ... ALLA ... yes you are a couple ..sarukh ????

            He says that the bomb was ordinary, not moderate, but also that if we are brave we must come in red pajamas and kneel down - then the brave military of Islam will show how they know how to fight !!!
            1. Peterhof 73
              Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 12: 45 New
              +1
              A hole to them from a donut and not Russian guys. I was able to siotrel, I thought this is a training manual for cesspool workers-migrant workers. Well, like ours, they showed them clearly what depth the ass awaits them. And they are gyr-gyr ... ugh danced.
    4. little girl15
      little girl15 5 October 2015 11: 00 New
      +6
      There is no better advertisement than the combat work of the machine. I think after the Syrian company, Sukhoi will increase work.
      1. Bombardier
        Bombardier 5 October 2015 11: 03 New
        +18
        Unexpectedly belay :

        “How can I relate to the fact that civilians are being bombed - of course it is sharply negative. As far as I know, ISIS is still a state and there is a civilian population in any state, and I don’t know how to distinguish civilians from non-peaceful ISIS, therefore Russia doesn’t should get in there. People with arms in their hands are opposed to the tyrant regime of Assad, and I think this is extremely disgusting. We must completely trust the United States and the countries of the Western coalition who know what to do in this situation. " (c) Makarevich
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 10 New
          +12
          Quote: Bombardier
          Unexpectedly



          Yeah ... I read this opus of the "former" in the morning ... I didn’t insert it into VO ...

          But in general, the dude turned out to be a barrel of shit, and that teaspoon of honey, when the "Time Machine" only began to emerge and develop, was already dissolved thanks to his last efforts ...

          It's a shame for the guys who for so many years created the image of this christopher ...
          1. 44 World
            44 World 5 October 2015 12: 32 New
            +4
            Alien among his ...
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 5 October 2015 12: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: 44World
              Alien among his ...

              I would say: "Alien among strangers!"

              in a word, Zhirinovsky - p. odonok (for some reason they don’t miss the correct spelling of a completely normal Russian word! soon it will be possible to mumble and bleat!)
              1. Dryuya2
                Dryuya2 5 October 2015 13: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Baikonur
                soon it will be possible to mumble and bleat!)

                you can still "smile" emoticons laughing
        2. 0255
          0255 5 October 2015 11: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: Bombardier
          “How can I relate to the fact that civilians are being bombed - of course it is sharply negative. As far as I know, ISIS is still a state and there is a civilian population in any state, and I don’t know how to distinguish civilians from non-peaceful ISIS, therefore Russia doesn’t should get in there. People with arms in their hands are opposed to the tyrant regime of Assad, and I think this is extremely disgusting. We must completely trust the United States and the countries of the Western coalition who know what to do in this situation. " (c) Makarevich

          And Makarevich wouldn’t go to hell with his protests negative What does not concern the victims of American bombing?
          1. General Frost
            General Frost 5 October 2015 11: 18 New
            +5
            Makarevich --- a suitcase, a train station, igil.you are so waiting there, so they will meet am
        3. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 11: 19 New
          +8
          Urgent send Makar with a concert in support of ISIS! Let's throw off 5 rubles for him on business trips. Do you order tickets back? Here the witch-Akhidzhakova (old nag) had not yet performed there! Then let him fly at the expense of Alekseeva and the Solovetsky Fund. Generally all liberals to support the "State of ISIS." Nadezhdin and Gozman luggage.
        4. 44 World
          44 World 5 October 2015 12: 30 New
          +1
          Is it really necessary for people like him to have a real example for his family to understand who their friends are and strangers ???
          1. Peterhof 73
            Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 14: 31 New
            +2
            Do such people have relatives? Remember how the "close" Nemtsov (now deceased) rushed to each other's throats to tear up because of inheritance. These are specific people. Instead of a conscience, their buck has grown.
        5. DPZ
          DPZ 5 October 2015 12: 41 New
          0
          it is time to throw this gan.don Makarevich out of the country into a nude. let them live out their filthy years there
        6. Back in USSR
          Back in USSR 5 October 2015 15: 09 New
          +1
          "... As far as I know, ISIS is still a state and there is a civilian population in any state, and I don’t know how to distinguish a civilian population from ISIL from a non-peaceful one, so Russia should not go there. ... We must fully trust the United States and Western coalition countries that know what to do in this situation. " (c) Makarevich

          Well, dumb ....
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      3. gjv
        gjv 5 October 2015 15: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Vovochka15
        Sukhoi will have more work

        Now I'm watching a movie about Pavel Osipovich Sukhoi and his planes on Star. winked
    5. papas-57
      papas-57 5 October 2015 11: 09 New
      +7
      '' According to Katkov, representatives of foreign air forces will certainly be interested in a multifunctional combat complex, which will lead to contracts for the sale of these aircraft. '' The bureaucrats have already begun to rub their sweaty hands in anticipation of new foreign contracts and, as a result, replenish their bank accounts. First, the Russian aerospace forces would be saturated with these aircraft, and then they would be sold abroad. And then again it turns out that there are hundreds of such modern aircraft abroad, and we have a few. The golden calf steers.
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    7. figter
      figter 5 October 2015 11: 16 New
      +2
      In Syria, the best advertising SU-34!

      In Syria, the fate of our economy is being decided, and not an airplane advertising.
      1. Rader
        Rader 5 October 2015 11: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: figter
        In Syria, the best advertising SU-34!

        In Syria, the fate of our economy is now being decided, and not an airplane advertisement.

        If only economics ...
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: figter
        In Syria, the fate of our economy is now being decided, and not an airplane advertisement.



        It does not interfere...

        Moreover, how can advertising and future sales of our own aircraft interfere with the fate of our economy ???

        So everything goes the way ...
        1. figter
          figter 5 October 2015 11: 58 New
          +2
          veksha50
          It does not interfere...
          Moreover, how can advertising and future sales of our own aircraft interfere with the fate of our economy ???
          So everything goes the way ...

          "Way" is when a barrel of 140 dollars! In the meantime, not the "way."
          Future aircraft sales compared to rising oil prices are currently nothing in our oil-driven economy. Contracts for the purchase of an aircraft are determined to a greater extent not by its combat capabilities, but by political background, spheres of influence and kickbacks. Many Asian-banana countries, if they are guaranteed financial and military support to the United States, will, at their pointer to American loans, even cornbrokers will be purchased from the same United States or any other NATO country and will be “satisfied” with their technical characteristics.
          And about "all the way" - this is the calm before the storm. Not the country of the United States, with its financial and political capabilities, to just give up before Russia. I am sure that in the near future they will throw out a very serious kaku and they have plenty of levers for this.
          1. Sauron80
            Sauron80 5 October 2015 12: 16 New
            +4
            If the barrel rises above 100 again, our government liberalists will exhale, open their pockets wider and suck loot from the pipe again.
            1. Peterhof 73
              Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 12: 36 New
              +5
              For example, I unconditionally support the course of our President in foreign policy. But I, as an ordinary citizen and resident of Russia, would very much like a coordinated change in the domestic economic course. Recently there was a Glazyev report on the topic "What to do?" Those who are not familiar with this document, I highly recommend that you read it. There, everything for a normal thinking person (not an “economist”) is simply and intelligibly laid out. If our "father" accepts this program as a general one, then perhaps our grandchildren will live in a strong (economy) Russia.
              1. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 5 October 2015 13: 01 New
                +3
                voooooot ... I think we almost dug up the Gorbachev rake - the stalk polished with foreheads already shines ... our people do not like to read instructions, prefer the wise method of "Spear", and if I read the "instructions for using Gorbachev", maybe what it was. And in it, apparently, it was said - "for external use, admission to the Inside is strictly forbidden!" now we have successes externally, but inside, I’m confused, nausea, vomiting and loose stools. Maybe pleporium is not respected? - to whom, for what and how much ?? request
          2. veksha50
            veksha50 5 October 2015 19: 29 New
            0
            Quote: figter
            I am sure that in the near future they will throw out a very serious kaku and they have plenty of levers for this.



            Here (in this) I agree with you ... However, you somehow strangely bogged down everything ... I say that if they buy our cars, then both production and the economy will grow ...
            And you immediately sucked in - it would be good if the oil is 140 green karbovanets per barrel !!!
            So then I will say - and it will be better - if 240 candy wrappers per barrel !!!
            What are we talking about ??? All the time we raise the question of our dependence on the oil needle, we say that we should sell high-tech products ... Why are combat aircraft not avoiding the oil needle (partial, miserable - but leaving) ???
            Nobody will buy boots from us, but I’m afraid that they have already forgotten how to play them in Russia, like making needles and threads ... But you need to do something other than selling oil ??? !!!
    8. marlin1203
      marlin1203 5 October 2015 11: 19 New
      0
      Do not advertise! lol
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    11. Altona
      Altona 5 October 2015 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: prabiz
      In Syria, the best advertising SU-34!

      ------------------
      They thought that only they have pictures with a cross of the focus of the TV camera in the center and then a series of explosions ... Our "drying" is well hammering these little devils ...
      1. gjv
        gjv 5 October 2015 14: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        Our "drying" is well hammering these little devils ...


        In the vicinity of the city of ET-TABKA in the province of RAKKA, Su-34 aircraft attacked KAB-500 aerial bombs at the special training center for ISIS militants and the weapons depot located on its territory. As a result of numerous explosions of ammunition, the infrastructure of the center, designed to train terrorists, was destroyed. 4 October.
      2. gjv
        gjv 5 October 2015 14: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Altona
        Our "drying" is well hammering these little devils ...

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    13. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 5 October 2015 11: 53 New
      +1
      Damn the brothers, beat, bite, but the honor of a little Papuans beat peppers. There was an advertisement in Georgia, as you put it, the enemy was there, he had air defense, he had airplanes! And here are the nude Papuans, who have no MANPADS. The thing is right! Even very much the 34th for him too much 24th and 25th would have managed themselves.
    14. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 5 October 2015 12: 00 New
      +1
      It’s necessary to re-equip its own Air Force, and then think about deliveries abroad. It is assembled by one plant and then several units a year enter the troops.
    15. NEXUS
      NEXUS 5 October 2015 13: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: prabiz
      In Syria, the best advertising SU-34!

      In Syria, in general, all Russian weapons are advertised. And now Krasukha-4 is being thrown there. And the same Raptors will be uncomfortable flying in the Syrian sky.
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 12: 00 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: prabiz
        In Syria, the best advertising SU-34!

        In Syria, in general, all Russian weapons are advertised. And now Krasukha-4 is being thrown there. And the same Raptors will be uncomfortable flying in the Syrian sky.


        If it’s not a secret: where does the info about Krasukha-4 come from?
    16. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 5 October 2015 16: 06 New
      0
      Well, the guys rolled their lip, it our Novosibirsk opened so we are the first in line to me personally from the Oktyabrsky district to Dzerzhinsky 15 minutes to get there so you do not have time wink and so nothing surprising then sou 24 then su 34 I fly and fly here mi 28 or ka 52 see a very hunt
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 5 October 2015 16: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        Well, the guys rolled their lips, it was our Novosibirsk opened so we are the first in line to me personally from the October district to Dzerzhinsky to get 15 minutes so you won’t have time

        Do not worry wink All will get. drinks But he is glad that the Glory of Russian weapons and the authority of the Russian soldier come to life. Let them know that if the bear is sleeping, you don’t need to pull his mustache. And now let them blame themselves. The paw is heavy. laughing
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        and so what’s not surprising, then soo 24 then soo 34 so fly and fly here mi 28 or ka 52 see very hunt

        I think we’ll see. And Krasuha-4 apparently wasn’t in vain transferred to Syria. And the evening ceases to be boring and languid hi Iskanders would be noted there with a non-nuclear warhead, so that in general the understanding came to the rectum that the Russian soldiers are serious people and if you need to give a toothache, then they will not rust. hi
        1. marshes
          marshes 5 October 2015 16: 21 New
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Iskanders would be noted there with a non-nuclear warhead so that in general the understanding came to the rectum, h

          What is the use of a land mine, a cassette or with WMD, a bact. chem., the meaning would have been.
          Enough KAB-250,500,1500.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 5 October 2015 16: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: marshes
            What is the use of a land mine, a cassette or with WMD, a bact. chem., the meaning would have been.
            Enough KAB-250,500,1500.

            There is no sense. The first is a psychological moment. And the second, a demonstration of what Iskander can do. I think the same Europeans will have something to think about later.
            And running in real combat conditions is also important. hi
            1. marshes
              marshes 5 October 2015 16: 43 New
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              There is no sense. The first is a psychological moment. And the second, a demonstration of what Iskander can do. I think the same Europeans will have something to think about later.
              And running in real combat conditions is also important.

              Well try, take into account the region there doesn’t smell like “silver-cuts”, they quickly implement it. laughing And if you shoot from the base, does it make sense? Nearby the fleet grazes, it will be more efficient to sail from the box.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 5 October 2015 16: 51 New
                +2
                Quote: marshes
                Well try, take into account the region there doesn’t smell like “silver-cuts”, they quickly implement it.

                Oh ... laughing Isil got all of them so much that, believe me, the same Assad will only be glad and will provide decent protection and will allocate a place.
                Quote: marshes
                Near the fleet is grazing, it will be more efficient with the ship.

                From Moscow, then of course, who argues then ... but if you "soak in the toilet", then to the fullest. To drown in fikalami, so on a grand scale. drinks
                1. marshes
                  marshes 5 October 2015 16: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Oh, oh ... Isil got all of them so that believe me, the same Assad will only be glad and will provide decent protection and will allocate a place.

                  Well, well, the Region is not easy hi And you want to tell me ... laughing
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 5 October 2015 17: 04 New
                    +1
                    Quote: marshes
                    Well, well, the Region is not easy

                    And who argues that? Only when the Ishilovites slaughtered this “difficult region” with entire cities, there wasn’t something to hear the enthusiastic Deferamb and fireworks. For 4,5, this rot got even other terrorist gatherings, what can we say about the civilian population.
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 5 October 2015 17: 11 New
                      0
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      .For 4,5 years, this rot got even other terrorist gatherings, what can we say about the civilian population.

                      Here is an interesting point, the reduction of the Arab population, who benefits? Of course, not the Arabs.
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 5 October 2015 17: 16 New
                        +1
                        Quote: marshes
                        Here is an interesting point, the reduction of the Arab population, who benefits? Of course, not the Arabs.

                        And GDP showed it thickly, giving consent to the operation in Syria.
              2. Peterhof 73
                Peterhof 73 6 October 2015 12: 02 New
                0
                But is there an analogue of the Iskander ship-based?
      2. marshes
        marshes 5 October 2015 16: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        here is mi 28 or ka 52 see a very hunt

        They won’t let them in, there is a danger of using anti-aircraft artillery. Instead of them at low altitudes they will use the Su-25, which can quickly get out of fire.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 5 October 2015 16: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: marshes
          Do not let them in, there is a danger of using anti-aircraft receiver

          When all this anti-aircraft garbage is "knocked out", I think Alligators with Hunters will appear. hi
          1. marshes
            marshes 5 October 2015 16: 32 New
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            When all this anti-aircraft garbage is "knocked out", I think Alligators with Hunters will appear

            But problems can start with this, Voentorg on the other hand works the same way, I won’t be surprised if MANPADS still appear from Africa? Bucks the Almighty will do the trick. And it will be even easier to "make-up" like volley fire of non-guided missiles, as in Vietnam.
            Danger, pulling on most textiles ... smile
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 5 October 2015 16: 45 New
              +1
              Quote: marshes
              But problems can begin with this. Voentorg, on the other hand, works the same.

              It will not work. Turkey, Iran, and so on are interested in killing this hydra. And so that the "manna from heaven" does not fall to the majahideen in the form of "mistakenly" dropped containers with weapons, they send Krasukha-4 to Syria.
              Quote: marshes
              And it will even be easier to “make-up” like a volley fire of unguided missiles, as in Vietnam.

              When they do this, if every day they start to wet them more and more from all sides. And I think Turkey will fit in Egypt, and so on ... they will now be left with only one concern. As they say Chapay was swam, and ISIS extras ... Xia.
              1. marshes
                marshes 5 October 2015 17: 04 New
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                Syria is being transferred to Krasukha-4.

                So that third-party UAVs would not graze there.
                Quote: NEXUS
                When they do this, if every day they start to wet them more and more from all sides. And I think Turkey will fit in Egypt, and so on ... they will now be left with only one concern. As they say Chapay was swam, and ISIS extras ... Xia.

                They will participate so diligently that the Russian Federation may be alone.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 5 October 2015 17: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: marshes
                  So that third-party UAVs would not graze there.

                  You think only under this imprisoned Kraukha-4? wink
                  Quote: marshes
                  They will participate so diligently that the Russian Federation may be alone.

                  So in Syria there are no ground forces in our country. Besides, how is this one? And have you already written off the Syrian army?
                  1. marshes
                    marshes 5 October 2015 17: 27 New
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    So in Syria the ground forces are not ours

                    Well, special forces groups are involved. Intelligence target designation, advisers, object guards.
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Have you written off the Syrian army?

                    Consisting of Alawites, profess Shiite Islam, how many of them? Plus Hezbol, Iran, in short, will be very long.
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 5 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +6
    Handsome man! You will not say anything. Successful use in warfare increases customer appeal.
  3. kursk87
    kursk87 5 October 2015 10: 45 New
    +3
    Great car! ISIS gets it hard from her
  4. vladnn2015
    vladnn2015 5 October 2015 10: 46 New
    0
    Our products are the best advertising!
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 5 October 2015 10: 46 New
    +18
    What are the contracts in FIG, the plant works at maximum. We don’t have time to supply ourselves am
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 5 October 2015 10: 49 New
      -2
      But all the same, external deliveries are more important! Authority (quality mark) is forged for the future! hi
      PS: Myself - in time, especially for ourselves - there will be better, the next generation!
      No need, as in the USSR - a novelty! ABOUT! Hooray! Score all the warehouses! A place for the next development -NO! And where to put this rust now ?! (morally obsolete). Also, it is necessary to protect and carry out maintenance (in theory).

      And now no one is threatening us (there are show-offs, but in fact ALL are trying)!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 October 2015 10: 58 New
        +8
        Quote: Baikonur
        But all the same, external deliveries are more important!

        What kind of blizzard is it?
        Quote: Baikonur

        And now no one threatens us

        No, of course fool
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 5 October 2015 11: 07 New
          -3
          I mean in the global!
          Yes, the USA, for example, has a large army and navy, but they don’t dare attack us (now)! And if we spend money on current developments (to purchase them as much as possible), and not reserve as many future ones as possible, then - lag trend!
          Current developments (They certainly do not cause anything besides pride and joy) must be used for training, professionalism, experience, flexibility, readiness to quickly transfer to new ones!

          (Of course, I’m not saying that you shouldn’t buy at all! Read carefully! And no one is threatening - I didn’t mean that we are alone on the planet!)

          P.S. And do not pound yourself on the forehead!
          With respect!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 October 2015 11: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Baikonur
            but they dare not attack us (now)

            Obama reported?
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 5 October 2015 11: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: Baikonur
              but they dare not attack us (now)

              Obama reported?

              Yes! laughing
              Нет!
              I analyzed it myself!
              hi
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Baikonur
        Do not, as in the USSR


        "And now no one is threatening us (there are show-offs, but in fact ALL are trying)!"...


        Wake up, Major VKS ... You - rave ...
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 5 October 2015 11: 36 New
          -3
          I repeat for a non-retired pensioner !:
          I, the videoconferencing major, had in mind in the global!
          Yes, the USA, for example, has a large army and navy, but they don’t dare attack us (now)! And if we spend money on current developments (to purchase them as much as possible), and not reserve as many future ones as possible, then - lag trend!
          Current developments (They certainly do not cause anything except pride and joy) must be used for training, professionalism, experience, flexibility, willingness to quickly switch to new ones!

          (Of course, I’m not saying that you shouldn’t buy at all! Read carefully!
          И no one threatens - also did not mean that we are alone on the planet!)

          PS: For example, I had in mind (although this is about tanks, but!)
          Now Russia is armed with 20 thousand tanks, despite the fact that the need for troops in tank technology is much less.
          http://topwar.ru/22713-rossiya-izbavitsya-ot-vseh-tankov-t-62.html
          Article of 2013 but...
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: Baikonur
            And no one threatens - also did not mean that we are alone on the planet!)



            The whole world is a powder keg ... and many, many bonfires have been lit around it ...
            And when the powder barrel bangs - everyone will get it ...

            However, the most interesting thing is that all the bonfires - even lighted far away from Russia - have the goal to hit just over it ...

            We have Urkain-Heyrop at our side ... In the East, we have a “brother forever” China, which has big geopolitical problems that can be solved at once by “alienating” the territories of Russia ...

            Around us - a lot of things, wherever you stick - one "poop" and threats ...

            This must be taken into account ...

            We don’t need to bark ... I just read your comment and printed my reaction to it ...

            PS Do not be offended, I was also harsh in my opinions at your age ... And how I was eager for Afghanistan !!! How many reports he wrote !!! ... And now, in old age, I say thanks to those commanders who did not let go, saying that the nuclear missile shield of the Motherland is more important than some local wars ... And so long ago I would have been probably wasn’t ...
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 5 October 2015 12: 03 New
              -1
              I’m not offended. All that you said, I know, see, understand. And at my current age I have time for analysis and reflection! And you at my age were sharp in your judgments (your words), i.e. only now have they realized what I am aware of at my current age. And I was sharp in my opinions about 20 years ago.
              The whole world is a powder keg ... and many, many bonfires have been lit around it ...
              And when the powder barrel bangs - everyone will get it ...
              Obviously!

              However, the most interesting thing is that all the bonfires - even lighted far away from Russia - have the goal to hit just over it ...
              But not by the army and navy (at least - Now, but by terrorist attacks and other "poop", I it meant!!!

              We have Urkain-Heyrop at our side ... In the East, we have a “brother forever” China, which has big geopolitical problems that can be solved at once by “alienating” the territories of Russia ...

              Around us - a lot of things, wherever you stick - one "poop" and threats ...

              This must be taken into account ...
              I take into account!

              We don’t need to bark ... I just read your comment and printed my reaction to it ...
              With respect! (also Do not be offended!)
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 5 October 2015 13: 20 New
                0
                Quote: Baikonur
                With respect! (also Do not be offended!)



                All! They ran away ... They almost understood each other ...
      3. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 11: 25 New
        0
        But it’s interesting: are there, for example, on Sukhoi, separation of the assembly of export and its product modifications? There is a great deal of common sense in your words. But how is it organized in modern conditions (production-storage)? How much errors related to the overproduction of military equipment in the USSR have been taken into account? Clarify who is in the know.
    2. Andrea
      Andrea 5 October 2015 10: 50 New
      +1
      Who prevents to increase power, we will sell more => we will build more for ourselves.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 October 2015 10: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: Andrea
        Who prevents to increase power-

        Production Capabilities.
        Quote: Andrea
        - sell more => build more for ourselves.

        First, put yourself, and then sell. Just to drive something to someone.
        1. Andrea
          Andrea 5 October 2015 12: 43 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Production Capabilities.
          The question was rhetorical, but that was not the point. We are all ministers here, and we quickly determine what is right and what is not.
          Well, if you think that an increase in production is not possible in parallel with export, then so be it. hi
    3. Manul
      Manul 5 October 2015 11: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      What are the contracts in FIG, the plant works at maximum. We don’t have time to supply ourselves

      And under new contracts, we will not be able to expand production capacities?
      hi I saw a dialogue with Andrea. Still, I am for the fact that it is important to make a profit and invest it in further development.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 October 2015 11: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Manul

        And under new contracts, we will not be able to expand production capacities?

        It’s not a matter of money, it’s not so easy to increase production. Not everything in this case is decided by money.
    4. veksha50
      veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      What are the contracts in FIG, the plant works at maximum. We don’t have time to supply ourselves



      Damn, maybe it will reach the idiots-boyars and rulers that it's time to expand production ??
      So far - the most important thing - there are people, there are - to whom and whom to teach ??? !!!

      And this concerns not only the Su-34 ... It’s a disgrace with the Taganrog Plant and the Be-200 ... There are orders (and not only ours, internal ones) —and there are no cars ... Anyway, the list is very long of these problems. ..
      1. Rader
        Rader 5 October 2015 11: 36 New
        0
        Not everyone in this case decides the money.

        So far - the most important thing - there are people, there are - to whom and whom to teach ??!!!

        "Frames decide EVERYTHING!" But there are problems with this ... Many (of those who could teach) left, few (of those who could be taught) came ...
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  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +3
    The best advertisement is visual combat use.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 18 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The best advertisement is visual combat use.



      In fact, the Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Armed Forces have done well that began to accompany the hostilities in Syria with official information ...

      Firstly, if in a timely manner - then they do not give crap to "partners and friends" to breed ...
      And secondly - and the truth is - advertising !!!
  7. vovanpain
    vovanpain 5 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +10
    The best advertisement is participation in hostilities, SU is very good in Syria
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 5 October 2015 11: 22 New
      +3
      Do not forget about the pilots - 50% success is their merit ... 50% technique ... in the hands of the Syrian (let our friends not take offense at me) the effectiveness of the same Su-34 would be several times lower
  8. Barboskin
    Barboskin 5 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +4
    I totally agree, Syria is a testing ground for advertising our defense products. Therefore, it is not necessary to be shy in deliveries, except for economic income, we are already gaining political authority, which is very expensive, therefore this chance should not be missed.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 5 October 2015 11: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Barboskin
      therefore, this chance should not be missed.


      Duc, unfortunately, you can’t jump higher than your own ...

      Production, finance, and - most importantly - a strong-willed political desire ... That’s what’s important now ... It’s time to expand our production capacities in addition to the existing legacy ... After all, we are still going to the Soviet backlogs and capacities ... Once- then the stock will end ???
  9. AlexTires
    AlexTires 5 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +3
    And all this, with sincere sorrow and envy, the pilots of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are looking at them, “landed” twice: first, their government, having rotted planes on the ground, and then the militias, having finished what remained operational ....
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 5 October 2015 11: 29 New
      +1
      "Bad they got a share. Few returned from the field." M.Yu. Lermontov (from the sky)
      Those who bombed the Donbass and shot down the Boeing is an eternal disgrace.

      Glory to Putin's falcons!
  10. Haettenschweiler
    Haettenschweiler 5 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +5
    - No, countries that "traditionally exploit Western equipment" will not buy Russian planes in any case. Just because they probably already have multi-ton contracts with Western arms suppliers that cannot be violated. In addition, the entire repair base and service complexes are oriented towards western models. I think that not everyone can afford to create parallel structures for Russian military vehicles.
    1. Mowgli
      Mowgli 5 October 2015 10: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Haettenschweiler
      In addition, the entire repair base and service complexes are oriented towards western models.


      On the one hand - yes, you are certainly right.
      On the other hand: contracts for the purchase of military equipment are also different.
      Including those that include the supply of spare parts, maintenance, etc.
      Localization of production (production of components independently, as between Russia and India) is hardly such a frequent occurrence in the case of military equipment.
      And this time - do not care, pay the Americans (French, Germans) or Russian. And taking into account the cost ...
  11. Andrea
    Andrea 5 October 2015 10: 48 New
    +2
    "Dryers" do not need special advertising.
  12. fridge
    fridge 5 October 2015 10: 49 New
    +2
    successful "work" of the Su-34 in Syria will lead to contracts for its delivery
    The plane is certainly beautiful, but the pilot plays an important role, and such pilots as we can’t see insolently Saxons. good
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 5 October 2015 11: 26 New
      +1
      on the Su-34, the crew also includes the navigator, who also manages the entire weapons complex, also plays an important role, for some reason they often forget. And in training our and our pilots: American pilots fly excellent cars, have good training and extensive experience. A blow to the hospital in Kunduz, an episode in the war, rather from arrogance and without punishment. Glory to the pilots and navigators of the crews: Su-24, Su-30, Su-34 !!!
  13. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 5 October 2015 10: 49 New
    +3
    Of course he is good, but the war is not over yet and there is no need to speak in advance ...
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 October 2015 10: 52 New
    +4
    Yeah, war is the best advertisement for weapons. Regrettably. And 34 is a very successful modification of the family. Brilliant engineering solution.
  15. Engineer
    Engineer 5 October 2015 11: 02 New
    +1
    When the first information on this aircraft appeared, I was skeptical about creating an attack aircraft based on a fighter in the conditions of a complete lack of funding during the collapse of the Union seemed to me an absurd idea. But the design idea is still due to the inertia of evil on the rails of the technical backlog of the Union. And those long decades and a half that it went to the Army did not affect the relevance of those technical solutions that Soviet designers had laid in it. The machine has a great reserve for modernization and will serve the interests of the Motherland for a long time to come.
  16. asadov
    asadov 5 October 2015 11: 09 New
    +2
    as they say, wait and see. Things are just beginning, so everything is still ahead.
  17. Oladushkin
    Oladushkin 5 October 2015 11: 12 New
    +1
    You know, a sense of beauty can do different things.
    Now, when you look at perfect forms, harmoniously developed, as they say "natural", you just go numb from feelings ...
    When you see a beautiful girl, the heart is beating. When you see a beautiful horse, the heart is beating.
    But from such aircraft, the heart simply stops from a heavenly, unearthly beauty. Her and you can really compare only with a beautiful girl ..... MMMMmmmmmmm .... What a beauty ...
  18. kotvov
    kotvov 5 October 2015 11: 20 New
    +2
    all this is good market, advertising, loot, but first of all it is necessary to saturate their capabilities for these beauties.
  19. ASUR
    ASUR 5 October 2015 11: 27 New
    0
    Good probe
  20. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 5 October 2015 11: 33 New
    -3
    How everyone hesitated with thoughts about advertising. This is how zombie people’s brains are. Only money, money, money ... How all this is vile. Drying 34 is needed in the Russian VKS, let the rest fail on all four sides! They do it a little, and if export intervenes, there will generally be a teaspoon per year.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 5 October 2015 22: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      How everyone hesitated with thoughts about advertising. This is how zombie people’s brains are. Only money, money, money ... How all this is vile. Drying 34 is needed in the Russian VKS, let the rest fail on all four sides! They do it a little, and if export intervenes, there will generally be a teaspoon per year.


      Sorry, I strongly disagree with your opinion, so catch the minus! negative
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 6 October 2015 05: 20 New
        0
        Your minus is a fiction, it makes no difference to me. You should not expect another person from a zombie for money. You better turn on the brains!
  21. roskot
    roskot 5 October 2015 11: 34 New
    +2
    “How can I relate to the fact that civilians are being bombed - of course it is sharply negative. As far as I know, ISIS is still a state and there is a civilian population in any state, and I don’t know how to distinguish civilians from non-peaceful ISIS, therefore Russia doesn’t should get in there. People with arms in their hands are opposed to the tyrant regime of Assad, and I think this is extremely disgusting. We must completely trust the United States and the countries of the Western coalition who know what to do in this situation. " (c) Makarevich


    Let not hope. They will not bomb him. The bipod is small. They just drop the rope for self-affirmation.
  22. marshes
    marshes 5 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +3
    Strange, I thought that they wouldn’t sell it to anyone at all, just like the Su-35. Will China or India buy it, then to beat each other up?
    The Americans, on the other hand, do not offer F-22s and A-10s to anyone, which means they consider them successful aircraft, while for foreign customers they are promoting the F-35 in the future Scorpions.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 5 October 2015 16: 58 New
      +2
      Bolot, better ask the question: "Why, if the Su-34 is so wonderful, use the Su-24M?" In my opinion, he still has a lot to learn. For example, flights and "work" at low altitudes, incl. in my opinion software. To "teach" the Su-24 how to fly, not a few pilots died - remember, it was considered the most "emergency". And now we see what he can.
      It is amazing that such a small number of aircraft can make such a "noise" around the world. At the test site I saw the "work" of AB. We mainly had training (they are dyed) and small (FAB-50, FAB-100 - the figure means approx. Weight, and BB about half of the weight) were. But this is a terrible thing - an air bomb. When the turntables begin to work with them, then there is almost 100% accuracy - you won’t be saved. hi
      1. marshes
        marshes 5 October 2015 17: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Kasym
        : "Why, if the Su-34 is so wonderful, use the Su-24M?"

        Yes, the pepper is clear. It’s a pity that we put 24 for “conservation”. The jamb was when 500 ku was dropped on a residential building, Zhetygen (Nikolaevka) at the next exercises. They should have bombed in Otar.
  23. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 October 2015 11: 45 New
    +4
    My heart feels that they are sure to arrange some kind of provocation with the Su-34 ... Something Israel has subsided! And the fighter is a beautiful devil, and most importantly, he has already shown himself quite well in battle! Well, God forbid!
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 5 October 2015 12: 13 New
      +3
      [quote = MIKHAN] My heart feels that they will certainly arrange some sort of provocation with the Su-34 ...

      Yeah. They leave our success without attention - like a sickle. Yes, and the interests of America in the BV are significant. I really want to make a mistake, but I also think that some kind of dirty trick is already being prepared for us.
  24. Oleneboy_
    Oleneboy_ 5 October 2015 11: 50 New
    0
    You can’t imagine the best advertisement ..
  25. trenkkvaz
    trenkkvaz 5 October 2015 11: 51 New
    -2
    But why create such a specialized aircraft in our time?
    I’m looking at the American analogue - F-15E, it’s a fighter-bomber, flies faster than ours and takes even more bombs than our bomber.
    What is the point of building a bomber?
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 11: 58 New
      0
      Quote: trenkkvaz
      What is the point of building a bomber?

      Perhaps this is a replacement for the TU-22 M3, a tactical bomber. Here is a modern, compact, effective weapon system to create. So it will replace the TU-22 niche, and they consider it 22, redundant.
      Range, in the news, the Su-34 reached Syria, through the Caspian Iran, Iraq. But the Su-30SM had to fly through Azerbaijan. It already says a lot, Maybe there was a refueling over Iran ...
  26. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 5 October 2015 11: 53 New
    +3
    The latest electronic warfare systems “Krasuha-4” arrived in Syria
    The Russian military deployed Krasukha-4 electronic warfare systems in Syria, designed to suppress aircraft radars and counter drones. This follows from the video posted on the website of the Zvezda television and radio company.

    In the video illustrating the landing on the Syrian airfield of Khmeimim, the Russian Su-25 attack aircraft returned from a combat mission, a car with a characteristic set of antenna devices is visible in the background.

    The comparison shows that with a high degree of probability it is a machine of the 1RL 257 “Krasukha-4” mobile electronic warfare complex. These systems, developed at KRET Concern (at the Novgorod NPO Kvant), are produced at the Bryansk Electromechanical Plant.

    “Krasuhi” are wide-range jamming stations and are designed to suppress the operation of airborne radars of early warning radars and strike aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles radars, as well as radars of radar reconnaissance satellites.

    According to the manufacturers, the Krasukha-4 complex is capable of completely closing the protected object from radar detection at ranges up to 150-300 kilometers, and can also inflict radar damage to enemy communications and electronic warfare. Complexes "Kraukha-4" adopted by the armed forces in 2012, and delivered to the troops since 2013.

    http://warfiles.ru/show-96883-v-siriyu-pribyli-noveyshie-sistemy-reb-krasuha-4.h
    tml
  27. Izotovp
    Izotovp 5 October 2015 11: 53 New
    0
    In general, of course, they attacked the Su-34 like a cherry, but in this cake other ingredients are no worse in terms of price / efficiency and play their part in the orchestra, so there are buyers for all types of machines working there.
  28. Leeder
    Leeder 5 October 2015 11: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: marshes
    Strange, I thought that they wouldn’t sell it to anyone at all, just like the Su-35. Will China or India buy it, then to beat each other up?
    The Americans, on the other hand, do not offer F-22s and A-10s to anyone, which means they consider them successful aircraft, while for foreign customers they are promoting the F-35 in the future Scorpions.

    F-22 ban on the sale of Congress, but with the A-10 is a completely different story.
    There is no direct ban on the sale, just the A-10 is an attack aircraft, and in the world few people have a need for attack aircraft, this is a specialized technique. Everyone prefers to use universal aircraft, but attack aircraft are only ours (Su-25) and Americans.
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 12: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: LeeDer
      But attack aircraft are only with us (Su-25) and Americans.

      And we have, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia ...
  29. Oman 47
    Oman 47 5 October 2015 12: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: self-propelled
    Quote: lelikas
    It already looks more like a lowered one, okay in the Crimea - the factory has screwed up - it's a shame, but then what did he forget ???

    there is such a profession - Homeland of the Ob.b.si.r.r.a.t. request


    Dear Professor and other comrades from the forum, those under the blue and white flag!
    Take Makarka to you! IS FREE! It's a good gesheft: it can cook kosher grub, tune guitars, bark at neighbors and colleagues.
    Can be used as a home cook or chain dog.
    Slightly suffering from graphomania - on a given topic.
    SHIPPING TO Israel.
  30. Astra55
    Astra55 5 October 2015 12: 09 New
    +1
    Comrades, dear ones.
    But I didn’t understand something.
    And why on the sides there are no signs of belonging to the Russian Federation.
    STARS ARE PAINTED.
    What is that supposed to mean?
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 October 2015 12: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Astra55
      Comrades, dear ones.
      But I didn’t understand something.
      And why on the sides there are no signs of belonging to the Russian Federation.
      STARS ARE PAINTED.
      What is that supposed to mean?

      Syndrome of the Crimea ... bullyPolite fighters ..
  31. Leeder
    Leeder 5 October 2015 12: 21 New
    0
    Quote: marshes
    Raina, Azerbaijan

    I would not refer the countries of the former USSR to other countries. :)
    Because they inherited Sushki, but the new attack aircraft, they would hardly have begun to buy ...
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 12: 27 New
      0
      Quote: LeeDer
      Because they inherited Sushki, but the new attack aircraft, they would hardly have begun to buy ...

      Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan can afford the acquisition of the Su-25, only one problem does not produce.
      So Scorpions or other equipment may appear. Or adapt the Yak-130, they already offer it with a laser sight-rangefinder like the Su-25go.
  32. Agent 008
    Agent 008 5 October 2015 12: 24 New
    +3
    Quote: Petergofsky73
    Does anyone understand what they are doing? I understood only: "Rus, Rus gyr-gyr, gyr-gyr ,,,, ... ohhh ... ALLA ... yes you are a couple ..sarukh ????

    He says that instead of the bunker there will now be a toilet ... The boards will be laid, a hole will be drilled, and there will be even more benefit than the bunker ...
  33. HMR333
    HMR333 5 October 2015 12: 34 New
    0
    I said it a long time! all the equipment that fights in Syria with a good result will give a huge dance of arms contracts! and those corrupt politicians and the entire fifth column stink supposedly money is not for medicine and study, but for the military commissar it’s impossible and someone doesn’t close their mouths live with the fact that all new technologies come from the defense industry and no progress is possible without it!
  34. Leeder
    Leeder 5 October 2015 12: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: marshes
    Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan can afford the acquisition of the Su-25, only one problem does not produce.
    So Scorpions or other equipment may appear. Or adapt the Yak-130, they already offer it with a laser sight-rangefinder like the Su-25go.

    If the fleet is large, then yes, they can. And if you have only 100 aircraft, then buying from 10 very specialized machines is not very reasonable. Almost all planes can work on the ground, but worse, but it is impossible to force attack aircraft to perform other tasks. Look who has the Su-25 class attack aircraft besides the former USSR? Only the Americans A-10, the rest of the station wagon.
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 13: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: LeeDer
      Almost all planes can work on the ground,

      Not everyone can work, we still do not operate from a good life! Mig-27, but because there is no Su-25, Su-24 either went to the scrap, canned, or exchanged with the Russian Federation for Su-25? Is not known.
      Quote: LeeDer
      Look who has the Su-25 class attack aircraft besides the former USSR? Only the Americans A-10, the rest of the station wagon.

      And the rest do not fight very well, and they don’t have external threats at the borders. The Europeans generally "slabbed."
      Arabs, well, they have a mountainous area but they can’t compare with the Caucasus and the Tien Shan. It’s easier to use MLRS or helicopters. Helicopters have a ceiling.
      So you don’t have to look at trendsetters. Although the Americans are not in vain creating a combat training, attack aircraft, Scorpio plane.
      http://lenta.ru/news/2013/12/13/scorpion/
  35. Mera joota
    Mera joota 5 October 2015 13: 03 New
    -6
    Nonsense, no one needs the Su-34 in the world, the Su-30 carries the same nomenclature of TSA, but in addition to shock functions it is able to work (not nominally, but really) through the air, so the Su-30 is in demand, but the Su-34 is not. And no Syria will contribute here.

    PS: to the defenders of the armored cockpit - a missile from MANPADS hits the area of ​​engines or the center section, i.e. in those places that the Su-34 is not covered by any armor. Won Su-25 is armored, how does it help him? To whom few examples of Afghanistan can familiarize themselves with the use of the Su-25 in Ukraine ... Reservations were introduced to protect the crew from small arms and MLA, the improvement of MANPADS reduced all the efforts of the designers to nothing.
    1. BABAY22
      BABAY22 5 October 2015 13: 30 New
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      After the phrase “in Ukraine”, the global meaning of this “post” became clear.
      Dear Mera Zhuta, Are you from horses or from local liberals?
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  37. Region 23
    Region 23 5 October 2015 13: 12 New
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    Isil met the world's best Russian SU-34 Syria bomber. Russia
  38. brr1
    brr1 5 October 2015 13: 16 New
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    Event-promotion direct marketing
  39. Leeder
    Leeder 5 October 2015 13: 38 New
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    Quote: marshes
    Quote: LeeDer
    Almost all planes can work on the ground,

    Not everyone can work, we still do not operate from a good life! Mig-27, but because there is no Su-25, Su-24 either went to the scrap, canned, or exchanged with the Russian Federation for Su-25? Is not known.
    Quote: LeeDer
    Look who has the Su-25 class attack aircraft besides the former USSR? Only the Americans A-10, the rest of the station wagon.

    And the rest do not fight very well, and they don’t have external threats at the borders. The Europeans generally "slabbed."
    Arabs, well, they have a mountainous area but they can’t compare with the Caucasus and the Tien Shan. It’s easier to use MLRS or helicopters. Helicopters have a ceiling.
    So you don’t have to look at trendsetters. Although the Americans are not in vain creating a combat training, attack aircraft, Scorpio plane.
    http://lenta.ru/news/2013/12/13/scorpion/

    In my understanding, a ground attack aircraft is a subsonic aircraft. Although in general, probably this type is already outdated, due to the development and saturation of the MANPADS troops. Bombs for long distances, and attack aircraft are precisely the aircraft supporting infantry in the field. You can send a bomber there, only it will cost more and less efficiently. Now, if there is a war (pah-pah-pah) the need for them will arise again. Vaughn Ju-87 and IL-2 perfectly proved themselves in the Second World War. So attack aircraft are needed, but not many countries can afford them. And it would be interesting to look at Scorpio ...
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 13: 54 New
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      Quote: LeeDer
      Vaughn Ju-87 and IL-2 perfectly proved themselves in the Second World War.

      I think the developments with Mig-1.44, or something like F-35 or Chengdu J-10B, a B-bomber, will pour into something. Well, this is not a lot of attack aircraft from the LFI category.
      In general, I would like for us as a stormtrooper, the Pograntsy, the National Security Committee, had Super Tukano. There were 6 cars, two each Almaty-Taraz-Shymkent. The plane had patrols and air support. The truth would be “stuffed no matter what”.
      By the way, the US Marine Corps, Wait for the F-35 but still use the Harriers.
  40. Wolka
    Wolka 5 October 2015 14: 12 New
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    everything is fine, but first equip in sufficient quantities with these birds domestic VSK ...
  41. Leeder
    Leeder 5 October 2015 14: 22 New
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    Quote: marshes
    Quote: LeeDer
    Vaughn Ju-87 and IL-2 perfectly proved themselves in the Second World War.

    I think the developments with Mig-1.44, or something like F-35 or Chengdu J-10B, a B-bomber, will pour into something. Well, this is not a lot of attack aircraft from the LFI category.
    In general, I would like for us as a stormtrooper, the Pograntsy, the National Security Committee, had Super Tukano. There were 6 cars, two each Almaty-Taraz-Shymkent. The plane had patrols and air support. The truth would be “stuffed no matter what”.
    By the way, the US Marine Corps, Wait for the F-35 but still use the Harriers.

    For me, strike drones will soon take the place of attack aircraft. Cheaper, safer, smaller in size, sufficient efficiency.
    I always considered Harriers, and all VTOL aircraft to be unsuccessful decisions.
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 14: 44 New
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      Quote: LeeDer
      Cheaper, safer, smaller in size, sufficient efficiency.

      Yes, everything goes to this. But the snag of UAVs isn’t for sale to “third” countries. Some agreement is reached. We can buy UAVs from the USA and China, Russia, Israel, but they will sell them in a truncated version.
      Helicopter UAVs are already appearing, which means that the era of Attack helicopters is ending. Demand will be on helicopters for countering terrorist operations, these are cheap turntables. Type ANSAT-2, Cobra and something like that ... Mi-2 laughing Or the EU-645 T2, N2, Lakota, the same Scorpio. For theater of low intensity. Where there are no MANPADS, and more than 14.5 mm barrels. Although the ZU-23 is too early to write off. laughing
  42. prorab_ak
    prorab_ak 5 October 2015 14: 41 New
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    It's cool to hear such news .... from the "messenger of Mordovia" .... and in fairness .... they also have something to offer .... and f-15 and f-16 and f-22 ... yes and the f-35 soon did an excellent job and would cope with similar tasks (spot bombing) ... the rafals of the French can also be bombed, so there are a lot of machines in the arms market for such tasks ....
    And yes .... it’s not worthwhile to give TTX in response here .... that they say the 34th won out how much ... again I repeat, for such air operations in conflict zones (and nobody uses other methods right now) of the above machines ... so that our 34th overwhelming advantage does not have to buy up like hot cakes steel)) ... although the combat experience soldier -best advertisement wink
  43. TIO1969
    TIO1969 5 October 2015 14: 44 New
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    Of course, the Su-34 has shown itself, and will show excellent.
    But who can become a potential buyer? And here we must take into account the political characteristics of relations with Russia.
    A hypothetical list of countries that could "queue" for the Su-34
    Our traditional ones are China and India.
    Surprisingly recently with their purchases - Egypt and Algeria
    Returning to Arms Market - Iran
    Also, as options - Vietnam and Indonesia are trying to build up their capabilities.
    Well, it is unlikely, but suddenly .... Our new arms supplier is Pakistan.
    It turns out 8 countries. Even if there is one purchase of 30 cars, it will be quite worthy.
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 5 October 2015 17: 06 New
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      TJ 1969, and what good is it for you from these sales, do you want to get rich in any way? This is unlikely = but you can become an accomplice in a crime! Or are you worried about India and China?
  44. Leeder
    Leeder 5 October 2015 15: 55 New
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    Quote: marshes
    They don’t sell PLA to “third” countries. In the course of an agreement, we can buy UAVs from the USA and China, Russia, Israel, but they will sell it in a truncated version.
    Helicopter UAVs are already appearing, which means that the era of Attack helicopters is ending. Demand will be on helicopters for counter-terrorism operations, these are cheap turntables. Type ANSAT-2, Cobra and something like that ... Mi-2 laughing Or EC-645 T2, N2, Lakota, the same Scorpio. For a theater of low intensity, where there are no MANPADS, and more than 14.5 mm barrels. Although the ZU-23 is too early to write off. laughing

    Well, whoever does not produce airplanes almost always gets truncated equipment, although this is not always advertised. :)
    As for attack helicopters, I’m not sure, but they will most likely disappear as a class, drones are sufficient to carry out their tasks, their speed is low, and less space is required for take-off landing than airplanes.
    In order to knock out a drone, even anti-aircraft defense of the times of the Second World War will be enough, speed and size are small ... I think that getting a conventional 7,62 bullet into the wing will be enough.
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 October 2015 16: 09 New
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      Quote: LeeDer
      . The hit of an ordinary 7,62 bullet in the wing I think will be enough.

      Well, you turned down, depending on the mass of UAVs, I’m afraid in the future the appearance of barrage UAVs, Kamikaze, which will hunt for this or that equipment and will have AI, and REB will be very difficult to cope with. It’s true from the realm of fiction, but in cars they’re already trying to then create.
      1. Leeder
        Leeder 5 October 2015 16: 32 New
        +1
        By the way, I thought for a long time on this subject, why is everyone in the world calmly referring to quadrocopters? In fact, there you can shove automatic weapons, and that’s the finished strike UAV! And where the operator sits, go find more.
        And as for the downing, I meant very light UAVs. But for the type MQ \ RQ-1, yes, something more is needed, although the machine-gun caliber is still sufficient ... The hole from the same old DShK will be impressive, and the device is no longer a tenant.
        in the future of the appearance of hovering UAVs, Kamikaze, which will hunt for this or that equipment and will have AI

        So it’s time to already think about the fight against UAVs, the heights are already very large up to 13 m. MANPADS will not reach ...
        But to put AI, EW on them, will lead to a strong weighting / rise in price, and therefore size, which is not desirable.
        Here, as it were, the choice is a small price (mass), quality (the ability to install the best weapons, optics, protection, etc.) I would still put on mass (to a certain extent, of course), because we have little experience need to run in combat conditions.
        1. marshes
          marshes 5 October 2015 16: 53 New
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          Quote: LeeDer
          By the way, I thought for a long time on this subject, why is everyone in the world calmly referring to quadrocopters?

          Yes, no, it’s not calm, now how are they controlled? By bluetooth? ... I bought a Chinese turntable for boobies, but it’s interesting smile. And so the charge will be attached to the quadrocopter and it will turn gray somewhere on the roof of the building and wait in the wings, like a crow.
          Quote: LeeDer
          And where the operator sits, go find more

          Americans seem to be in Nevada and sitting on Ramstein.
          Quote: LeeDer
          All the same, I would put it on a massive scale (to a certain extent, of course), because we have not enough experience in using it, we need to run it in combat conditions.

          Well, you already have experience, at least Syria, where did you go to infa what goals to collect, go collect it for half a year, this is not done from floundering bay, very long planning is done, but the final goal is not known, as it goes further along the play ... smile
      2. Just BB
        Just BB 8 October 2015 06: 51 New
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        Above the guys mentioned a couple of times Krasuha ....
        The moment with the Merikos barge off the coast of Crimea is indicative ...
        Do you think that in real combat all these aircraft models will be allowed to flutter quietly above their heads?
        Why advertise Russian military equipment yes "bad" tanks, "no" planes grinded European miracles into scrap metal, and after WW, many got to our BT. But as it was rightly noted here: "It's not a bobbin at all - the sloven was sitting in the cockpit!" (and even that you need to protect the armored car - even after six months you can collect another piece of iron, but here at least 18 years + teach)
  45. APASUS
    APASUS 5 October 2015 19: 41 New
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    Promotion from the Russian Aerospace Forces:
    We deliver 8000 kg of TNT to anywhere!
  46. samara-58
    samara-58 7 October 2015 17: 51 New
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    "PRODUCT FACE !!!!"