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First Syria, then Iraq?

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Syrian President Bashar Assad said that the Russian military campaign in Syria will decide the fate of the Middle East. According to him, the joint efforts of Syria, Russia, Iran and Iraq should bring tangible results in the near future. And one more statement: Iraqi Prime Minister Heydar al-Abadi said he did not object to Russian air strikes against IG positions on Iraqi territory. It remains only to coordinate this issue with the government.




Bashar Assad said: Russia's military campaign in Syria will decide the fate of the Middle East. His words are quoted MIGnews.com with reference to The Jerusalem Post.

According to Assad, the joint efforts of Syria, Russia, Iran and Iraq should bring tangible results: the terrorists will soon be weakened. “This alliance has great chances of success. We must make every effort, otherwise the region will be destroyed, ”comrade Asad said.

At the same time, another statement was made.

The Iraqi Prime Minister Heydar al-Abadi said that he does not object to Russia attacking airstrikes on the positions of "IG" in Iraq after agreeing on the issue with the government.

He noted that “a request for this was sent to Moscow,” reports "Lenta.ru".

According to al-Abadi, making such a request "to all" in order to oppose "IS" is in the interests of Iraq.

Probably, such an “invitation” was the Eastern response to one statement from the Russian side.

We were not invited to Iraq, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said a few days ago. “No, we do not plan to expand our air strikes on Iraq, we were not invited, we were not requested, and we, as you know, are polite people, we will not come unless we are invited,” the newspaper quotes Lavrova Kommersant.

There is also one more Foreign Ministry statement. Ilya Rogachev, Director of the Department for New Challenges and Threats to the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation, said that if the Iraqi authorities ask for the operation of the Russian Air Force against IG on Iraqi territory, Moscow will assess the political and military feasibility of such measures.

And here is the third “preliminary” statement - from the above-mentioned Iraqi Prime Minister Heydar al-Abadi. The press called it a “sensation.”

He admitted that he was disappointed with the support of the American coalition: “We are not receiving impressive US military support in the fight against IS.” And right there he pointed out the possible intervention of Moscow. "I recall that" IG "attacked Iraq from Syrian territory, and the conflict with it is fraught with enormous damage: people were killed, abducted, taken into slavery - including women and children, - the newspaper quotes him "Sight". - Therefore, if anyone else joins our fight against IG, we will welcome it. Our message to Russia - I met with Putin - please join the fight against IG. These are dangerous terrorists who are fighting not only against Iraq and Syria, but also against the whole world. The time has come to unite our forces ... We need a broad coalition with the participation of Russia and Iran. ”

Analyst Peter Akopov believes that Russia will not go to the American coalition, and therefore the only option for Moscow and Baghdad is to create a new coalition. This is what the Kremlin suggests: obtain the mandate of the UN Security Council and launch a joint operation against the “caliphate”.

With the start of the Russian military operation in Syria, Prime Minister Abadi is becoming “the main agitator for Putin’s plan to create a new global coalition,” said a columnist in the Vzglyad newspaper.

What shifts can occur in the region during the creation and activation of a new coalition?

"The Islamic State" created a common front in Syria and Iraq, and therefore has the ability to maneuver, said "Free Press" Director of the Research Center "Middle East - Caucasus" Stanislav Tarasov. - Russia's participation in resolving the conflict changes the whole balance of forces in the region. It is clear that the Middle East will not be the same, but no one knows what it will be like. There is a Kurdish factor, no one will predict the behavior of the Syrian opposition, some of whose groups have announced the start of the national liberation struggle against the Russian presence. <...> As for the Iraqi army, it is really weak. Without the help of Shiite volunteers from Iran, she could hardly have kept Baghdad. At the same time, a focal point was established in the Iraqi capital with the participation of the military of Russia, Iraq, Syria and Iran, while the American advisers, who were called to join the work, refused to participate in this format. As we see, a very complex knot is tied in the region. ”

According to the expert, "a lot will be decided not on the battlefield, but on the field of diplomacy."

If the terrorists retreat from Syria, the expert notes, then we should expect complications in Iraq. “Syria and Iraq have become for the“ Islamic state ”interconnected vessels, the war on two fronts gives“ IG ”an opportunity for maneuver,” Tarasov believes.

Forces that have declared war on the Islamists are still operating under different scenarios. And if a common solution is not found (creating a unified coalition with the participation of Russia), the situation will be in the nature of a sluggish geopolitical "schizophrenia," the expert believes.

The president of the Russian Society for Friendship and Business Cooperation with Arab countries, Vyacheslav Matuzov, said “SP” that “IG” can be destroyed rather quickly.

He recalled that "IG" was born just in Iraq, where it captured Mosul and controls the oil fields. From there it came to Syria. As for possible actions in Iraq, there is a coordination headquarters in Baghdad, where a decision can be made on coordination of actions and strikes on the territory of Iraq.

A close relationship between Moscow and Baghdad, the analyst recalled. Russia supplies military equipment there. It is unlikely that the Iraqi leadership will "strictly obey the United States." In addition, Iraq is adjacent to Iran, and that is included in the coalition created by Russia.

The expert also noted that “only Arab formations can win in land operations”; Russia's task is to “just support them from the air.”

As for the flight of terrorists from Syria to Iraq, the expert added that they would be met by Kurdish Peshmerga and the Kurdish Workers' Party.

We will add the creation of a new coalition against IG, and carrying out a number of successful operations against terrorists would allow Moscow to regain to some extent the influence in the Middle East and gain the allies ring that had rallied in the fight against the militants.

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  1. Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 6 October 2015 06: 03 New
    21
    Now we’ll go down meeee ...
    .... and YOU .. treat everything (weight) herd (Middle East) !!!
    1. anEkeName
      anEkeName 6 October 2015 06: 21 New
      22
      This abomination must be beaten to the last cannibal. Otherwise, it regenerates.
      1. zzz
        zzz 6 October 2015 09: 35 New
        72
        All that is gained by overwork, everything was destroyed. 3 command posts, 3 central communication centers, training camp ... three !!!
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 6 October 2015 20: 28 New
          +7
          VKS of the Russian Federation assigned functions to strengthen the ruble
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 6 October 2015 09: 53 New
        +8
        "... beat to the last cannibal."
        And quickly, so as not to have time to readjust (adapt) to the changes that have occurred in the personal life of the IG.
        "Cut to hell so that there is no peritonitis!" am am am
    2. obraztsov
      obraztsov 6 October 2015 06: 54 New
      +2
      The most difficult question: what will we do if the states stand in a position and are not allowed to heal? For this they have forces and allies in the region.
      1. Ramai ramaew
        Ramai ramaew 6 October 2015 07: 18 New
        18
        So we can announce to the whole world that Americans support terrorism
        1. Samaritan
          Samaritan 6 October 2015 08: 15 New
          +7
          They are afraid of America for their throne, they are shaking and will not allow anyone to shoot!
          They are literate only those who have already quit:
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 6 October 2015 09: 13 New
            0
            As for the Iraqi army, it is really weak. Without the help of Shiite volunteers from Iran, she could hardly have kept Baghdad.

            If the Iraqi army is so weak, then should we get involved in bombing in Iraq? Assad’s army will conduct a ground operation in Syria, and what can Iraq offer in the event of our military assistance, volunteers from Iran? Can they handle ISIS retreating? Need a ground operation, and who will carry it out? Squeeze them into Turkey - our open borders are near there. In general, “wherever you go, there’s a wedge everywhere”, most likely you need to attract some more players, but which ones is the question.
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 36 New
              +4
              Quote: SRC P-15
              here most likely you need to attract some more players, but which ones is the question


              No new players needed ...

              If you help the Kurds well, then this small, proud and warlike people themselves will rustle and put things in order ...

              However, neither Iraqis nor Iranians will allow them to do this, that’s the trouble ...
              1. T-73
                T-73 6 October 2015 14: 00 New
                +4
                Quote: veksha50
                However, neither Iraqis nor Iranians will allow them to do this, that’s the trouble ...

                I object, perhaps. The Kurds now have a chance to get into the redistribution of Asia. And the second may not be provided. They themselves advocate for their state, which in principle is achievable right now. We will see, of course, but the chance to see Kurdistan on the map is in the historical perspective right now is quite high. And I would delete Iraq from the list.
                1. jjj
                  jjj 6 October 2015 15: 22 New
                  -1
                  And the Kurds will act with an eye on Moscow. Fifteen years ago, the Kurdish camps in the center of the European part of Russia seemed to be something alien, and the diaspora itself was another of those who came in large numbers, engaged in crime. But from the standpoint of today it is clear with what a long sight the Russian authorities acted
            2. Awaz
              Awaz 6 October 2015 16: 36 New
              +3
              I think that it is necessary to stop already conducting some sort of "Napoleonic" reasoning about the global. Statements from Iraq are another temptation that Russia would climb deeper into the conflict. Arabs are very interesting people, but lazy and cunning and you can never believe them.
              it’s also worth remembering the story: how many peoples Russia saved from destruction and massacre, how many created statehood and all that. And who now remembers this? Now they not only do not remember - they also kick Russia for it.
          2. cosmos111
            cosmos111 6 October 2015 14: 26 New
            +5
            Quote: Samaritan
            They are afraid of America for their throne, they are shaking and will not allow anyone to shoot!

            better to listen to analytics from Jacob Kedmi ((smartest person)))
            1. No one is going to fight Al-Qaedo and ISIS. To call that schizophrenia that the Americans organized as a struggle is simply humiliation for any language in which such a definition exists.

            2. The attempt to remove Assad failed completely. The Americans have nothing to say - they are trying to make a good face with a bad game.

            3. In the coming weeks there will be a critical turning point, as a result of which there will be the possibility of eliminating ISIS completely by Assad troops (maybe with the help of the troops of Iran and Hesbola)

            4. The northern part may soon be freed from terrorists. That is, the Syrian-Turkish border will be closed for both the supply of money and soldiers. They have NO other ways.

            5. Assad's agreement with the Kurds will provoke the closure of the sky for US aviation and in the Kurdish regions (as Russian planes will fly there)

            6. All the plans that were hatched in Washington, and in Irriad, and in Qatar with the advent of Russia, collapsed. Therefore, we hear so much hysterical screech.

            7. Apparently, Putin’s question at the UN: What have you done ?! - reached the Europeans. Without Russia, it is impossible to resolve the issue of Syria, the Middle East and refugees. England will also come, but later.
            In Israel, they know what ISIS is (detail of the composition)

            8. Ukraine and events in Syria. Possible impact. Two likely scenarios.

            1. jjj
              jjj 6 October 2015 15: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: cosmos111
              Ukraine and events in Syria. Possible impact.

              I believe that the events in Ukraine were pedalized (recall Putin’s definition of them - false start), so Ukrainian events began in order to get Russia out of Syria. But it turned out that they brought and rallied even the former enemies of Iran and Iraq
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 6 October 2015 07: 52 New
        +7
        Quote: obraztsov
        if the states are in a pose


        We will rearrange it more conveniently and proceed to political relations. laughing
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: obraztsov
        The most difficult question: what will we do if the states stand in a position and are not allowed to heal? For this they have forces and allies in the region.



        Significant forces in this region against Assad and Russia that helps him are SA, Qatar and Turkey ... Israel has not been able to intervene in this dog landfill so far - it does not have direct allies there or even completely brutalized enemies ...

        States with their "coalition" of "60 countries" got in the ass ... They have enough problems above the roof - Afghanistan, internal problems ... That's because of Iraq, in order not to "lose face", they, of course, can climb a pine tree, however, despite their hatred of Russia, they have sane people in the Senate Congress too ...
      4. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 October 2015 11: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: obraztsov
        The most difficult question: what will we do if the states stand in a position and are not allowed to heal? For this they have forces and allies in the region.

        They are already in a pose ... but apparently from the Kama Sutra. The fact is that after the UN meeting, the world ceased to be unipolar, and it became clear to everyone that Russia is not a regional third world country, but the most superpower that will be to fulfill their interests anywhere in the world without violating the letter of international law. If the leadership of Iraq has invited, it means that the UN will approve, and then according to the Syrian scheme. And as a superpower, Russia, after observing all legislative norms, will not look who and what position there will bend.
    3. Samaritan
      Samaritan 6 October 2015 08: 09 New
      +2
      And here Afghanistan asks for help from Russia:
      1. killganoff
        killganoff 6 October 2015 09: 25 New
        +3
        Here are the Chechens and send to prove their allegiance!
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          1. killganoff
            killganoff 6 October 2015 11: 11 New
            +9
            If Russia and Chechnya are one, then let Chechnya pay the same taxes, let the children of Murmansk or the other northern region of the Russian Federation get the same benefit for free trips to the coast of Antalya, as well as Chechen children who are “infringed” on their rights.
        2. Samaritan
          Samaritan 6 October 2015 10: 22 New
          +1
          Who cares? The bottom line is different, everyone is tired of the United States - from them only harm! so there is big change ahead ...
        3. Lelek
          Lelek 6 October 2015 12: 18 New
          11
          Quote: killganoff
          Here are the Chechens and send to prove their allegiance!


          What are Russians, what are Chechens, what are the remaining hundred nationalities of our common country - Russians. And it is worthless to push the Russians into someone else's slaughter to prove allegiance to their country. I do not want to offend anyone, but another Chechen or Kalmyk is a bigger patriot than some ethnic Russians. yes
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 6 October 2015 12: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Samaritan
        And here Afghanistan asks for help from Russia:


        As recently as yesterday, Afghanistan waved American flags and shouted: "Heil USA." So what happened that they fell in love with us, as relatives? Finally, did American friendship mean slavery and looting? It got a little late.
      3. Glot
        Glot 6 October 2015 12: 56 New
        0
        And here Afghanistan asks for help from Russia:


        I never doubted that we would return there.
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 6 October 2015 13: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Glot
          I never doubted that we would return there.

          Finally, I waited for this thesis :-)
          1. Glot
            Glot 6 October 2015 14: 40 New
            +4
            Finally, I waited for this thesis :-)


            Well, like this ... ))
            The truth is, when I stood at the bridge across the Panj in 89, and watched our squad mangroups roll out from there, I didn’t think so. A little later I realized that I had to roll back. )))
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    4. veksha50
      veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Good_Taxist
      and YOU .. treat all (ves) the herd (Middle East) !!!



      ALL herd, with all desire, will not work ... But the Saudis, Qatari and Turks would not hurt ...
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 6 October 2015 14: 36 New
        0
        Is the US going to open a new front in Syria ???

        The United States and coalition partners are preparing to open a major front in northeastern Syria in order to put pressure on the city of Raqqa, the actual capital of the Islamic State (IS) jihadist group. Last week, US President Barack Obama approved two important measures that will start the offensive in the coming weeks, The New York Times reported on Sunday, October 4, citing representatives of the Pentagon and the White House.
        http://www.dw.com/ru/%D1%81%D0%BC%D0...%B8/a-18761061
      2. Glot
        Glot 6 October 2015 14: 44 New
        +1
        But the Saudis, Qatari and Turks it would not hurt ...


        It is unclear that the Turks are so excreted? They have a good piece from our tourists, and they all started to show off one thing.
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    5. varov14
      varov14 6 October 2015 21: 29 New
      0
      Something about the ground operation of the Syrian army is not heard on TV. After the bombing, the territory is sort of like taking control.
    6. Garris199
      Garris199 7 October 2015 03: 22 New
      0
      For "Chechnya" they, the bearded shit, pile so that they remember and fart.
  2. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 6 October 2015 06: 03 New
    +4
    As the Arabs are all running .... like not igil, so al-Qaeda, t still some kind of filth in the same vein. In no case. I do not want to upset the sane residents of the region there, BUT .... a legitimate question arises: Where were you yakhontovs when this sharashka was able to crush in the bud? In other words, why are you struggling with the consequences, and not with the root cause?
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 6 October 2015 06: 20 New
      +1
      you can’t take the crop in the bud
    2. Slobber
      Slobber 6 October 2015 07: 38 New
      +2
      In no case. I do not want to upset the sane residents of the region

      Sent there thousandths of a percent. The world will not lose much if you bomb them all into the ground. Actually, what I have never been indignant about is that the NATO members are in peace. There are no peace there - only the degree of militancy varies.
      1. RUS69
        RUS69 6 October 2015 10: 32 New
        +4
        Well, tell me what degree of militancy does a 3-month-old child or his mother have?
        1. Slobber
          Slobber 6 October 2015 15: 38 New
          +2
          Well, tell me what degree of militancy does a 3-month-old child or his mother have?

          And you tell me, if dad went to jihad and accepted shahada there, then the mother will probably be very friendly towards her husband’s killers, and she’ll probably teach the child to give flowers and draw killers, right? And if the children are on children's channels, well, at least this Palestinian one, like he is there, is specifically brainwashed for about 2-3 years, both about the evil rabbits and the shaitans in javrop and ryusnu. I’ll also remind you about herd and flocking. And the boys go with their peers, older “friends” and relatives who have visited a jihad in a mosque, often frankly Salafist or simply sectarian, listen to the “arabai of respected schyakhav”.
          They figured out how much the same “radicalism” is spreading among the poor, materially and uneducated, and sometimes intentionally stupid (“at the time of Muhammad there was no Wikipedia, the Internet, physics and mathematics, you can’t read them”)?
          And so that you do not try to blame me for liberalism, American and Jewish methods, I will give you homework. Find online the appeals of the following sheikhs: Albani, Abu Ishak (not neighing, that’s it), Ahmed Yasin. And imagine what the children hear as soon as they learn to understand what has been said. And yes, the Soviet methods and the construction of schools and the introduction of manuals do not work, Afghanistan is an example for you, the traditionally Mohammedan peoples do not accept this.
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    3. smsk
      smsk 6 October 2015 10: 22 New
      +2
      And where were you yakhontovs when these sharashki had the opportunity to crush in the bud? In other words, why are you struggling with the consequences, and not with the root cause?

      But how to deal with them when their countries simply bombed and rulers were executed. The only one who could resist them was Assad, but he also had strength in the end. The targeted operation of the West has borne fruit
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 6 October 2015 06: 14 New
    +3
    If terrorists retreat from Syria, the expert notes, then we should expect complications in Iraq.


    What a twisted vinaigrette turns out .... now all the shit from SYRIA will be shoved into IRAQ ... the intelligence is worth a glance.
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    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 6 October 2015 13: 55 New
      +3
      "Duckling" - Su-34 fighter-bomber

      range: from the base in Latakia:

      orange color: low-height profile without PTB ((outboard fuel tanks)))
      red color: low-altitude profile with PTB
      green color: variable profile with PTB
  4. chikenous59
    chikenous59 6 October 2015 06: 20 New
    10
    Where the hell are Chinese referring ?? With them, the pressure on our coalition would be much less!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2015 06: 44 New
      13
      Where the hell are Chinese referring ?? With them, the pressure on our coalition would be much less!


      The Chinese are sitting on a tree branch and watching the bear pluck the feathers of an eagle.

      The prize will go to the winner.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 6 October 2015 10: 12 New
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        Quote: chikenous59
        Where the hell are Chinese referring ?? With them, the pressure on our coalition would be much less!

        Xi Jinping from the rostrum of the UN General Assembly followed the statement that China is starting to form an 8th peacekeeping corps, which already implies the possible participation of China in international operations. So it cannot be ruled out that this peacekeeping contingent will suddenly not be involved in Syria. No one knows what GDP and Xi agreed on at the September 3 parade in China. First, the song begins to be sung, and then the choir comes in. There is a time for everything.
        Quote: The same Lech
        The Chinese are sitting on a tree branch and watching the bear pluck the feathers of an eagle.
        Correctly say, why create a crush in the sky?
      2. Air Force captain
        Air Force captain 6 October 2015 11: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: The same Lech
        Where the hell are Chinese referring ?? With them, the pressure on our coalition would be much less!


        The Chinese are sitting on a tree branch and watching the bear pluck the feathers of an eagle.

        The prize will go to the winner.

        it seems like .....
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 06: 44 New
      11
      Quote: chikenous59
      Where the hell are Chinese referring ??

      And who invited them to? Let the Iraqi khan turn to them for help, then Kitai will answer something.
    3. Noncombatant
      Noncombatant 6 October 2015 06: 49 New
      -21
      "The Chinese are referring"? They, unlike us, are the most intelligent. They know how to wait, realizing their interests.
      Only Russia got into this Syria hysterically waving a saber, and before the West we will be guilty permanently, simply for the fact of its existence.
      "Syrian campaign" we still comes around. Dexterously, the West forced us to carry chestnuts out of the fire, redirecting ISIS and other bearded men from our own person to us.
      By the way, since they got into a crash, it would not be out of place to recall that millions of Muslims live in Russia.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 6 October 2015 08: 18 New
        +5
        They’ve been waiting for a thousand years already, the Sun-tzu treatise won out, and how they got rid of everyone when they tried to get out, that's why they are still sitting wink !
      2. AID.S
        AID.S 6 October 2015 08: 48 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        "The Chinese are referring"? They, unlike us, are the most intelligent. They know how to wait, realizing their interests.

        Perhaps, but they don’t give us the opportunity to wait on the shore of the enemy’s floating corpse. Therefore, we have to harness for a long time, and if we went .... then to Paris and Berlin ...
        Quote: noncombant
        Only Russia got into this Syria hysterically waving a saber, and before the West we will be guilty permanently, simply for the fact of its existence.

        About hysteria, you got excited, about the west, you're right.
        Quote: obraztsov
        "Syrian campaign" we still comes around. Dexterously, the West forced us to carry chestnuts out of the fire, redirecting ISIS and other bearded men from our own person to us.
        By the way, since they got into a crash, it would not be out of place to recall that millions of Muslims live in Russia.

        Libyan silence, Ukrainian zubrobkost already came back to us. Not a hundred rubles, not a hundred friends. Yes, we carry chestnuts, but for ourselves. And about the millions of Muslims. I understand that you consider them a potential danger. Better be silent. Put your hand on heart, the biggest disasters and upheavals-coups in Russia (17,91 years), were carried out by the hands of Russians who had doubted in the state. See how interethnic and inter-confessional discord and enmity awaken.
        PYSYS. Quoted like one Necombatant !! ???
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: noncombant
        the West forced us to carry chestnuts out of the fire, redirecting ISIS and other bearded men from our own person to us.



        One cannot disagree with this ...

        When Kerry and Cameron strenuously persistently called Russia into their coalition (which, by the way, is completely illegally conducting its military operations), I was sure that the goal pursued by them was the same - to redirect the ISIS hatred vector to Russia ...
      4. Manul
        Manul 6 October 2015 19: 02 New
        0
        Quote: noncombant
        "The Chinese are referring"? They, unlike us, are the most intelligent. They know how to wait, realizing their interests.
        Only Russia got into this Syria hysterically waving a saber, and before the West we will be guilty permanently, simply for the fact of its existence.
        "Syrian campaign" we still comes around. Dexterously, the West forced us to carry chestnuts out of the fire, redirecting ISIS and other bearded men from our own person to us.
        By the way, since they got into a crash, it would not be out of place to recall that millions of Muslims live in Russia.

        You deftly distort. I looked at your comments, I have doubts about your residence permit. Returning to what you wrote, why on earth are you Igilovites equal with the whole Muslim world? Isil is a terrorist organization that uses the Qur'an for the ideology of its actions. But the right is not to use Orthodoxy. And Muslims are not animals, as you try to expose them. They are ordinary normal people. Tatarstan - there are crosses and crescents next to them (by the way, I was born there, and my mother is Tatar and Muslim, and I have many relatives from there - they are very nice people and I love them very much). Chechnya is Muslim, and Ramzan Kadyrov directly stated that his soldiers are the army of Vladimir Putin. Yes, all normal Muslims have already realized that they are used to create the image of global enemies. But you have decided in vain to do this on this site.
        I’ll keep silent about the “Syrian campaign”. They have already discussed it so tightly that others will either answer you or you won’t be interested. Well, admit that you are liberal. And Putin must leave, and we should be closer to the West .. wink
      5. Garris199
        Garris199 7 October 2015 03: 39 New
        0
        Quote: noncombant
        it will not be superfluous to recall that millions of Muslims live in Russia

        That’s why the VKS is now working in Syria so that our Muslims are not littering their brains. And those with a bo-bo head remembered that such ailments are perfectly treated with a shock wave.
        Quote: noncombant
        hysterically swinging a saber,

        Where did you see the tantrum there? In my opinion, everything is with feeling, really, with arrangement.
    4. obraztsov
      obraztsov 6 October 2015 06: 51 New
      11
      In vain, many consider China our ally. They will do as they please.
      We act according to conscience, they are calculated.
      It is not profitable to quarrel strongly with the United States and they will not.
      And I, as a resident of the Far East, worry that China can hit Russia in the back. 95% of our attention was riveted to the west.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 6 October 2015 08: 19 New
        +4
        Do not worry too much about 35 percent of our strategic missile forces specifically aimed there!
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: igorka357
          Do not worry too much about 35 percent of our strategic missile forces specifically aimed there!



          But what do you, as in kindergarten, trust in the Strategic Missile Forces ???

          Well, Putin said to the UN General Assembly: "Do you have any idea what you have done ???" ...

          So it is with the Strategic Missile Forces, the missiles of which you are trying to scatter right and left ... Do you even imagine that when the Strategic Missile Forces (or rather, the nuclear triad of the Russian Armed Forces) come into action, then nuclear armageddon and kirdyk will come (!!! to humanity and planet Earth ???
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 October 2015 13: 11 New
          0
          I agree, more than enough.
      2. Dimka off
        Dimka off 6 October 2015 08: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: obraztsov
        In vain, many consider China our ally. They will do as they please.
        We act according to conscience, they are calculated.
        It is not profitable to quarrel strongly with the United States and they will not.
        And I, as a resident of the Far East, worry that China can hit Russia in the back. 95% of our attention was riveted to the west.

        Exactly said
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      3. rosarioagro
        rosarioagro 6 October 2015 10: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: obraztsov
        We act according to conscience, they are calculated.

        Yes, the same calculation, so that by and large the share of Gazprom in Europe does not decrease, where did you see the conscience of capitalism?
      4. GUKTU
        GUKTU 6 October 2015 14: 17 New
        +2
        I agree with you! When he graduated from a military school in 1992, the Chinese army was seen as the army of a potential enemy. Not much time has passed since then. Do you think that China does not have a clear goal? in vain. There are more than 1 billion people, but they are closely behind the Chinese wall.
    5. Dimka off
      Dimka off 6 October 2015 08: 53 New
      0
      Quote: chikenous59
      Where the hell are Chinese referring ??

      for sure. As always neutral. Allies ...
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      2. Olezhek
        Olezhek 6 October 2015 09: 16 New
        +6
        Politics is my friend, politics. In politics, everything is always ambiguous and confusing.
        But allies are necessary for victory.
        This was understood by the Romans at the time of 2-th Punic then they won largely due to diplomacy.
        Those. Lavrov steers unequivocally, but Joachim von Ribbentrop is not.
        Do not repeat the mistakes of German diplomats who forced Germany to fight with the whole world. (both in WWI and WWII)
        Quarrel Khrushchov with China MAYBE cost us a victory in the Cold War.
        POSSIBLY.
        Politics and diplomacy is difficult.
      3. kit-kat
        kit-kat 6 October 2015 10: 08 New
        +1
        Therefore, there are so many.
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Dimka off
        Dimka off Today, 08:53 ↑
        Quote: chikenous59
        Where the hell are Chinese referring ??
        for sure. As always neutral. Allies ...



        They are to us - not allies.

        The agreements on the trade and military-technical community do not imply joint, shoulder to shoulder, solution of geopolitical issues by the armed forces of the joint Armed Forces ...
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      6. creak
        creak 6 October 2015 13: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Dimka off
        As always neutral. Allies ...


        China was an ally to us when it was in his interests - for example, during the war with Japan and later when the USSR with a generous hand helped them build industrial enterprises, copy many weapons and military equipment ... (From each reproducer rattled - Russian with Chinese - brothers forever) .. But already during the war in Vietnam, China actively put us in the wheel shelves and it all ended Damansky ...
        In foreign policy, China is guided by the unchanging principle of "Sitting on the top of a hill and watching two tigers fight in the valley."
        It would be the height of naivete to think that China will act on the basis of some kind of fraternal feelings, "as we do all the time ...
        And they will not seriously conflict with the United States because of us - all nothing more than groundless fantasies ...
    6. Robinzone
      Robinzone 6 October 2015 08: 56 New
      +2
      Ltd! And China at this time, taking advantage of the general attention to BV, is strengthening its position in Africa. ;-)
    7. veksha50
      veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: chikenous59
      Where the hell are Chinese referring ?? With them, the pressure on our coalition would be much less!



      And they need it ??? Everything from them is still far away ... As long as Russia and the coalition (Iran-Iraq) work together, China will observe, and if it intervenes, then only when it is beneficial for it ...

      Why did you consider that China should intervene ??? China is the same insidious eastern neighbor, like everyone else ...
  5. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 6 October 2015 06: 29 New
    +4
    Not enough strength. It is necessary to increase the grouping for a massive strike. There are established close ties with Damascus and Baghdad. It is time to arm the government armies of Syria and Iraq for a large-scale ground operation. It is not clear with the Kurds, but they could cover the Ishilians' retreat north to Iran. Turks like the Chinese are not fish and not meat. But it’s more difficult for them - they are tightly tied to the Yankos.

    Recent articles have not disclosed why we need it. Much is said about the geopolitical influence in the region, about the support of the "allies", about the crowding out of the Yankos, etc. But it seems to me that this is not all. A couple of days ago there was a funny article about oil and gas pipelines, about the Russian gas needle for the European Union, about oil prices when oil supplies from ISIS were cut off. This is the economic component of our interest in the region.
    1. Slobber
      Slobber 6 October 2015 09: 16 New
      +3
      Not enough strength. It is necessary to increase the grouping for a massive strike. There are established close ties with Damascus and Baghdad.

      So I want to ask, what kind of stupidity? Neither Syria nor Iraq are full partners in Russia in any form, except as the receiver of our weapons, in the case of Iraq, also paid by NATO. Occupy oil areas and really knead Daesh? Ha, are you ready to sacrifice our guys or do you run ahead? And the problems with a fair amount of Mohammedans of the former CIS, for whom the rich and strong Ivan is worse than Shaitan and the rich, but distant Sam. The mosque, by the way, didn’t help, as long as I don’t read the forums, a fair share of the forum military there said that it was a bribe to the Russian muftiat so that all the Masulmans were controlled (by the way, an option).
      A couple of days ago there was a funny article about oil and gas pipelines, about the Russian gas needle for the European Union, about oil prices when oil supplies from ISIS were cut off. This is the economic component of our interest in the region.

      It’s ridiculous. Previously, there were Americans who pumped oil quite freely along with the British and some Dutch people, there was nothing, nothing at all. Slotting on the topic "Publishing the IG and waking to own all the oil" is the slotting introduced into the masses by our gazovichki petroleum candles. And I constantly say - God forbid, our CBs will not fit in.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 6 October 2015 10: 02 New
        +1
        MainBeam (2) RU Today, 06:29 AM New
        "Not enough strength. We must increase the grouping for a massive strike."
        There is such a form of art as acupuncture, in which they act on certain points and there is a certain result. At the moment, Russia's actions on BV are the art of acupuncture. hi
  6. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 6 October 2015 06: 31 New
    +2
    Looking at the black outlines on the map, an association arises with some kind of alien cinema monster located on the surface of the Earth, black mucus capturing the planet and devouring people ... Americans are heroes only in the movies, but in real life they are the creators of this monster and help him .
    1. Noncombatant
      Noncombatant 6 October 2015 06: 52 New
      -12
      The question arises. Why are we helping the Americans smash this “monster" that they themselves created. Moreover, knowing that America is our enemy. Let America understand. Let ISIS blow up cities in the States, and the States bomb ISIS with bombs.
      The enemy of my enemy, if not a friend, is definitely not an enemy, for the time being.
      What are we doing then in Syria?
      1. regdan
        regdan 6 October 2015 07: 56 New
        +8
        What kind of nonsense are you writing here. Russia did not get into Syria, but was invited by the legitimate government. US and ISIS enemies? Are you seriously?
      2. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 6 October 2015 08: 12 New
        +5
        For non-combatant

        The difference is that the IG is not in a hurry to the United States, but is already specifically looking at Russia. While you are waiting for some IS encroachments in the United States, our southern borders will already be at war.
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 6 October 2015 10: 41 New
          0
          Quote: rotmistr60
          our southern borders will already be at war.

          no, of course, this is too straightforward, at first infiltration disguised as labor migrants, and then everything else
  7. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 6 October 2015 06: 31 New
    11
    How many times I look at this map. Poor Syria where to get
    such Dust or Dichlorvos to erase this black spot
    from your land. One extreme measure comes to mind.
    But you don’t feel like burning the whole sofa because of some bugs.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 6 October 2015 08: 21 New
      0
      If there are thousands of bugs in the sofa, and the sofa is subject to major repairs, it is better to burn it, and build a new one, well, or buy it!
      1. Robinzone
        Robinzone 6 October 2015 09: 01 New
        +1
        The country is not a sofa.
        What for "to the bottom, and then"? Once our country has already passed this: would not even wish the enemy.
  8. strelets
    strelets 6 October 2015 06: 33 New
    +3
    Well, we don’t get used to saving the world alone. As soon as we outline the schedule of celebrations on the occasion of the victory, the West will join.
  9. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 6 October 2015 06: 35 New
    +2
    While they will calve there with the creation of a "coalition", our goals will end.
  10. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 6 October 2015 06: 36 New
    +1
    The US is the brainchild of the United States and they are not going to destroy it, they will create the appearance of a struggle, to be in the know and not to let the IG destroy, therefore it is impossible to enter into a coalition with them.
    Iraq’s concern is understandable - they really suffer from the terror of Ig and they had enough time to understand the role of the states in the spread of IS and to feel the US’s unwillingness to destroy terrorists.
    How much force is needed to destroy these terrorists, while circumventing all the machinations of states pretending to condemn their creation.
  11. kenig1
    kenig1 6 October 2015 06: 39 New
    +9
    The girl switched me to the duty officer, who very politely explained: "Even before the start of the military operation in Syria, in the General Staff of the Moscow Region
    The Russian Federation made a responsible decision. The essence of this decision is our traditional desire for Russia to strictly abide by the principles of legality and justice. So now, all of our ammunition is divided into two categories: ordinary and moderate. Against ordinary terrorists, we use exclusively conventional ammunition. And against moderate terrorists, we use exclusively moderate ammunition. So don’t worry, we take into account the moderation of some of the terrorists and act with them in fairness. "
    After these words, it became much easier for me. But I nevertheless clarified: you really use exclusively moderate ammunition against moderate terrorists, is that true ?! "
    The interlocutor replied: "The word of the officer!".
    I felt very good. To bring final clarity, I asked: "Tell me, how much do your usual ammunition differ from moderate?"
    “Our conventional ammunition differs from moderate ammunition, exactly as much as ordinary terrorists in Syria, differ from moderate terrorists: they are painted with a different paint, in lighter and more moderate colors,” the officer answered and hung up.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 6 October 2015 06: 41 New
      10
      Quote: kenig1
      .

      Listen .. what you posted now, in the last three days you posted 20 to 30 times in VO ..

      This is called BKB .. Bayan Canadian Bearded ..

      Aren't you ashamed yet? wink

      PS: They say that in FIDO for "they buried my mother-in-law .." (obsolete for the 100500th time) it was possible to fly away in a ban .. Eh .. here were golden times laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 06: 47 New
        20
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Listen .. what you posted now, in the last three days you posted 20 to 30 times in VO ..

        Ok, here's a new one for you
        A young igilovets asks the old mujahideen:
        - How is the American special forces different from the Russian?
        Mujahideen answers:
        - You see, the Russians have the opposite.
        - What is it like???
        “Remember, we fucked an American Marine yesterday?”
        - Well yes...
        - So, with the Russians it will be the other way around ..
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 6 October 2015 07: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Ok, here's a new one for you

          Believe me, no - I just saw a couple of times yesterday.

          Truth.. yes
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        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 6 October 2015 07: 14 New
          0
          Quote: kenig1
          Relax rolls, bashful

          But this is superfluous .. negative
          1. kenig1
            kenig1 6 October 2015 07: 15 New
            -8
            Eka rushing you in the morning, drink espumisan.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 6 October 2015 07: 18 New
              0
              Quote: kenig1
              Eka rushing you in the morning, drink espumisan

              And that too yes
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 07: 34 New
                0
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                And that too

                What a cultural citizen came to us. Another couple of such comments will fly away in a ban.
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 6 October 2015 07: 41 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  What cultural citizen came to us

                  So and not yesterday, like, he came .. strange it somehow ..
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 6 October 2015 07: 43 New
                    0
                    Quote: Cat Man Null

                    Two years ago he came .. strange it somehow ..

                    Maybe there’s no time to sit on saits.
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              2. Tatarus
                Tatarus 6 October 2015 07: 58 New
                +6
                To frighten people with some sort of ban
                How to scare Obama with a banana. laughing
      3. B- 3ACADE
        B- 3ACADE 6 October 2015 07: 19 New
        +3
        Colonel! will offend Tolstoy, we will come and cling to you .... the most sensible place (wallet)
    2. AID.S
      AID.S 6 October 2015 11: 13 New
      +1
      Well, if they put the pluses, then not everyone reads 20-30 times :-)
    3. Manul
      Manul 6 October 2015 19: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      This is called BKB .. Bayan Canadian Bearded ..

      laughing Rum, but I’m already wondering how many times this joke will be repeated. It seems that there will be an absolute record for it, and a new kind of slaughter will open for science.
      Detachment - Humor. Suborder - Motivated laughter on the topic. Family - General. Genus - Bored. Subgenus - Rapidly bearded. Section - hundred-repeated. Kind of politico-patriotic funny idiot. It differs from the ordinary goofy with a great sense of humor. Subspecies - Syrian Desert.
  12. tolan_petrovich
    tolan_petrovich 6 October 2015 06: 53 New
    0
    Pleased in the morning! laughing
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 October 2015 06: 39 New
    +1
    The USSR tried to create socialist states around the world.
    The USA is replicating its gangster copies. I was glad that we were surrounded and fit into everything.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 6 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +5
    The root of evil, however, must be uprooted! Saudis with hangers-on. And smash their patron, so that only from the words "Russians go" were thrown out of windows!
  • Glot
    Glot 6 October 2015 06: 54 New
    +1
    If opportunities allow, there is strength and there is confidence that the black spot will be erased thoroughly, and we’ll give to all Amerov’s monkeys for soup, IT IS NECESSARY TO PUSH !!! We’ll set ourselves up and gain political weight yet, and we will redraw this region for the future with a convenient way.
    May God grant that everything comes out as WE NEED.
  • Raptor_RB
    Raptor_RB 6 October 2015 06: 54 New
    +7
    My dream is to see the flaming oil fields of Saudi Arabia and Qatar as one of the main consequences of this mess. Oh yes, also oil supertankers sinking upwards with keels in the Strait of Hormuz. I'd like to see the work of Iranian anti-ship missiles)
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 6 October 2015 11: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Raptor_RB
      My dream is to see the flaming oil fields of Saudi Arabia and Qatar as one of the main consequences of this mess. Oh yes, also oil supertankers sinking upwards with keels in the Strait of Hormuz. I'd like to see the work of Iranian anti-ship missiles)

      Words not of a boy, but of a husband. An ancient Roman anticipating a fight at the Coliseum ..
  • chikenous59
    chikenous59 6 October 2015 07: 05 New
    +3
    Quote: noncombant
    "The Chinese are referring"? They, unlike us, are the most intelligent. They know how to wait, realizing their interests.
    Only Russia got into this Syria hysterically waving a saber, and before the West we will be guilty permanently, simply for the fact of its existence.
    "Syrian campaign" we still comes around. Dexterously, the West forced us to carry chestnuts out of the fire, redirecting ISIS and other bearded men from our own person to us.
    By the way, since they got into a crash, it would not be out of place to recall that millions of Muslims live in Russia.

    And would you go to the Caucasus to fight with bearded men if we had not intervened and this IG would have come to us ?? Or would they sit on a sofa and tear up a fart, commenting on the latest news? You are the same pissed off, father. A friend of mine said that he would leave for the forest, if the war starts, I won’t go and says he’ll fight. You are scared. Immediately a joke is recalled about the Jews when they were asked to bring vodka from the house to pour into a common boiler. As a result, all the trickiest were and brought WATER!
  • mamont5
    mamont5 6 October 2015 07: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: obraztsov
    The most difficult question: what will we do if the states stand in a position and are not allowed to heal? For this they have forces and allies in the region.

    And what will they do? Go to an open conflict? I doubt it very much. They will not throw their armed forces in opposition to ours, but the allies ... Well, they will compete in diplomatic channels. Get used to us or something.
  • nikkon09
    nikkon09 6 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +1
    It turns out that if successful, the world will see the effectiveness of Russia's actions in the Middle East and the ineffectiveness of US actions. I wholeheartedly wish our success, although I do not want America to be evil, they would have more intelligence and tolerance with integrity.
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 6 October 2015 07: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: noncombant
    The question arises. Why are we helping the Americans smash this “monster" that they themselves created. Moreover, knowing that America is our enemy. Let America understand. Let ISIS blow up cities in the States, and the States bomb ISIS with bombs.
    The enemy of my enemy, if not a friend, is definitely not an enemy, for the time being.
    What are we doing then in Syria?


    we are not helping the Americans to destroy ISIS, we are fighting terrorists of all stripes, and in Syria we are helping the Syrian people and the legitimate authorities, first of all, to maintain their independence, and also to maintain calm and peace in Russia itself, so that any beast would not suit the attacks in our territory, with regard to North America, ISIS is far from threatening them, as it feeds and armaments from them since it is a daughter of the CIA
    1. Supervisor-63
      Supervisor-63 6 October 2015 08: 11 New
      +3
      Everything is much simpler ... And it is not a matter of love for the Syrian people. Our leadership is also quite pragmatic. The first ISIS needs to be eliminated, because it is already approaching our borders. And it’s better to tamper with it on someone else’s territory than on your own, where there will be victims among the civilian population, only ours. The second, of course, is to pocket "our partners", show the capabilities of our Armed Forces, show the Arabs the benefits of cooperation with Russia, and thereby create your coalition in this region, or better say, regain lost ground in the Middle East.
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 6 October 2015 07: 58 New
    0
    They want to drag Russia into this Middle Eastern mess for the most ... the most. Do not rejoice, it will not end in victory. Because Amer’s bombing never led to the desired result, I had to supplement everything with a ground operation. And even then nothing came of it. The USSR in Afghanistan also felt this on itself.

    In Syria, the whole earth is teeming with! Motivated! terrorists, bombs and fuel for each Kalash is not enough
    1. RUS69
      RUS69 6 October 2015 10: 40 New
      0
      Quote: LetterKsi
      They want to drag Russia into this Middle Eastern mess for the most ... the most. Do not rejoice, it will not end in victory. Because Amer’s bombing never led to the desired result, I had to supplement everything with a ground operation. And even then nothing came of it. The USSR in Afghanistan also felt this on itself.

      In Syria, the whole earth is teeming with! Motivated! terrorists, bombs and fuel for each Kalash is not enough

      This is not our war, victory is not critical for us there as a fact ...
      The most important thing is to help a legitimate government, support aviation, instructors, weapons and light up their presence so that other countries are more willing to enter into an alliance with Syria.
      And the war should be won by Syria, Iraq, Iran and, of course, preferably by the Saudis, but this is vryatly.
      In my opinion, our Foreign Ministry has already said a hundred times why come up with something superfluous.
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 6 October 2015 08: 02 New
    +2
    We are probably the only country that is asked to bomb its territory. We are bombing, and we are welcome in the country (governments). Here the West has a gap pattern. laughing
  • parusnik
    parusnik 6 October 2015 08: 11 New
    +2
    First Syria, then Iraq?... Not up to the chopped wood, grows again ..
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 6 October 2015 10: 45 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      First Syria, then Iraq? ... Not up to the chopped wood, growing again ..

      And where is Afghanistan, otherwise everyone thinks for some reason - Iraq - the crown of the whole affair?
  • Azitral
    Azitral 6 October 2015 08: 17 New
    +1
    . if the states stand in a position and are not allowed to heal?

    I was always surprised that sometimes countries behave just like people, and not the most intelligent and worthy ones: they are about emotions. In the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers, one can see something like this: “Yes, yes, I’m sticking it in your nose, but you won’t do anything to me!”, Although there’s no use for these dirty tricks, you’ll have to pay anyway, and if you’re not lucky, then complete. The USA has a different one: “If not us, then let no one, and, in any case, not Russians,” though to the detriment of the cause, but just break off. By the way, I think that this kind of nonsense can go away if they can invent a convenient excuse: they are not Estonians or Poles with Ukrainians.
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  • slizhov
    slizhov 6 October 2015 09: 21 New
    0
    IF ASKED FOR ...
    And they don’t mind now.
    How many civilians of Iraq can you take to the other world?
  • Kalmar
    Kalmar 6 October 2015 09: 29 New
    +1
    Suspiciously all this to the extreme. There is a strong suspicion that our Western partners have found a way to reduce the cost of maintaining the temperature in the Middle East boiler: they have blamed some of this honorable work on us. We don’t have enough resources to finally resolve the ISIS issue (such operations are very expensive), now it’s kind of solid to backtrack, so there’s a risk of getting stuck in this mess for a long time to the delight of the Americans.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 6 October 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    I look at the picture of the territory occupied by the IG, resembles a cancerous tumor with metastases.
  • Kirk
    Kirk 6 October 2015 09: 42 New
    +2
    It is not a small amount of money that is needed to carry out operations in the Middle East, but this is out of our pocket. It is necessary to force not only the Russian coalition to fork out, but also Geyrop, motivating them with a stream of refugees. Accordingly, while the operation in Syria has just begun, it is necessary to help refugees move to Geyropa, and after a couple of months, block this channel and make it clear that the Russian operation in Syria is proceeding effectively, but support from Geyropa is needed. It is necessary to cough them up for the amount of the military operation + compensation for sanctions damage.
    1. Erg
      Erg 6 October 2015 09: 54 New
      +1
      Yes, leave you alone this poor Europe, which has beguiled friendship with BDSM. And what about the costs on our part, the only thing that Assad does not allow to lay the Qatari pipe through its territory is worth a lot.
  • iZVerG
    iZVerG 6 October 2015 09: 46 New
    0
    It seems that in Russia in the foreseeable future the issue of unemployment will be solved! Bombs are needed, rockets ...
  • Erg
    Erg 6 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +2
    I don’t understand the course of coverage of this problem. We are told about training camps, warehouses, field commanders and other nonsense. Looking at the map (if, of course, you can trust it), it can be noted that the territories occupied by the IG are significant. To conduct hostilities in such a theater is not possible without a common center, supply structure, communications and other things. Further. Sources of financing and channels thereof. It seems to me that they hold us for fools, providing only reports from the fronts, showing how valiantly the fighters against the IS fight. When will a specific war begin with this evil? ..
  • veksha50
    veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 23 New
    0
    "According to Assad, the joint efforts of Syria, Russia, Iran and Iraq should bring tangible results: in the near future terrorists will be weakened"...

    Yes, here is the latest information ...

    "Today, 10:07 a.m.
    Syria in the last 24 hours: More than 1000 militants surrendered to the army in Daraa "...

    source: http://tehnowar.ru/25684-siriya-za-poslednie-24-chasa-bolee-1000-boevikov-sdalis
    -armii-v-daraa.html

    If it goes at such a pace, then this is already good ... Naturally, not completely zombie fighters surrender ...

    But with the "Svidomo fanatics" still have to tinker, and I think that for a long time ...
  • veksha50
    veksha50 6 October 2015 11: 26 New
    0
    “We were not invited to Iraq, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the other day.“ No, we do not plan to expand our air strikes to Iraq, we were not invited, we were not requested, and, as you know, we are polite people, we won’t come if they don’t invite us "" ...

    Last night, the Iraqi prime minister "made an invitation" to launch air strikes against gangs located in Iraq ... Ours are now considering this issue if they have not already considered it ...

    PS In principle, ours are ready for a radical solution to this issue ... The rat should not be driven into a corner, but destroyed ...
  • LM66
    LM66 6 October 2015 14: 29 New
    +1
    "Military and intelligence sources of the Israeli online newspaper DEBKAfile report that China notified Moscow on Friday October 2 that Chinese J-15 fighter bombers would soon join the Russian air campaign, which began on September 30. Baghdad, meanwhile, invited Moscow to use its air base strikes on the IG, which seized vast areas of Iraq, reports
    J-15 combat aircraft will take off from the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning-CV-16, which approached the coast of Syria on September 26, according to DEBKAfile. The first military operation of the Chinese Air Force in the Middle East, as well as the verification of an aircraft carrier in real combat conditions, will be a landmark event for Beijing. http://debka.com/
  • UAB63
    UAB63 6 October 2015 14: 41 New
    0
    Air operation is good. According to my calculations (information on TV), about 20 flights a day are made. It can be seen on TV that the aircraft load of 1000 kg (4 to 250 kg or 2 to 500 kg.) It turns out 20 tons per day. We take in a week - 140 tons. Not so much. If you take the performance characteristics of SU24 and SU25. Take from 5 to 7 tons. You can put it - save bombs or save for the main blow.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 6 October 2015 15: 33 New
      0
      Disposal of old stocks is a good thing, but after a lot of things haven’t worked. The FAB-500 stubbornly does not want to detonate
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  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 6 October 2015 17: 25 New
    0
    A brief glimpse of the news ran through the news: "Unidentified MiG-29 took 6 or 9 Turkish fighters into the target" and also "For the first time since participating ... ... Russian planes made visual contact with US aviation." Who heard what.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 6 October 2015 17: 37 New
    0
    Found - Mig kept sighting Turkish fighters 4min.15 sec. and unknown air defense accompanied them 4m. 30sec
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 6 October 2015 18: 02 New
      0
      Is it good or bad?
  • Tektor
    Tektor 6 October 2015 18: 16 New
    0
    If I were a hunter, but I would start to drive the game from two or three sides into an ambush. Assad’s troops may be on one side, Iranian on the other, Iraqi on the other. In this case, the terrorists have only one way - to the Promised Land. Well, or diffuse to their godfathers, to Qatar and the guardians of the shrines.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 6 October 2015 18: 27 New
      0
      No, they won’t trample in Israel, there you can grab it. But here we ask you to favor the Saudis! There are also Hussites who add. These fat belts can fight only from the air, but Strela-M, how is it?
    2. Belarus
      Belarus 6 October 2015 21: 27 New
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      If I were a hunter, but I would start to drive the game from two or three sides into an ambush. Assad’s troops may be on one side, Iranian on the other, Iraqi on the other. In this case, the terrorists have only one way - to the Promised Land. Well, or diffuse to their godfathers, to Qatar and the guardians of the shrines.


      That's right, but there is one question: interaction + The United States will definitely put the wheel in the wheel of all this + The Saudis, Qatar, Turkey will also not stand aside and will interfere.
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 6 October 2015 20: 50 New
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    what is going on with the naglosaksami now))) they now all shit on the shit. all plans for edren hairdryer))
  • Belarus
    Belarus 6 October 2015 21: 25 New
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    First Syria, then Iraq?


    No, first Syria and then Iran! The Americans’s affairs with Iraq are kind of tolerable, but not with Iran. Iran itself understands that if Syria is crushed, Iran will be in line. Otherwise, how else can it be explained that the General Staff of the ATS is essentially under Iran’s control and Iran is sending to Syria soy paramilitary units?
  • Balagan
    Balagan 6 October 2015 21: 40 New
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    To the above said about China. China is not our enemy, but not a friend. He will act in a way that suits him. Thanks to our diplomacy that while China is closer to our shore.
  • Longmire
    Longmire 7 October 2015 02: 35 New
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    a brief excursion into the history of Iran and Hezbollah, and why the West is in no hurry to hoot these "good terrorists"
    Terrorist activity against French targets:

    • August 26, 1983 and July 31, 1984 - Capture of Air France Airlines aircraft.

    • September 18, 1986 - Assassination attempt on a French military attaché in Lebanon, Colonel Christian Gautier.

    • 1985-1986 - A wave of terrorist attacks in Paris, organized by Iran and Hezbollah. 13 people were killed and more than 300 injured.

    • July 24, 1987 - Hijacking an Air France flight with the goal of freeing Hezbollah terrorists from French and West German prisons.

    Terrorist activities against German targets:

    • January 13, 1987 to March 1989 - Exposing Hezbollah structures in West Germany.

    • 1987-1989 - The abduction of five German citizens in Lebanon in protest of a court decision against a TWA hijacker.

    Terrorism against Spanish targets:

    • November 1989 - Exposing the Hezbollah structure in Valencia, Spain.

    Terrorist activities against Swiss targets:

    1988 and 1989 - The abduction of three Swiss citizens who worked in the Red Cross in Lebanon with the aim of freeing the hijackers of an Air France flight.
    Since 2008, Hezbollah has taken an active role in the implementation of terrorist attacks against Israel at the direction of Iran. The attack against a tourist bus in Bulgaria last July, which claimed the lives of five Israeli tourists and a Bulgarian driver, was the first "important" success in the current wave of terrorist attacks, after a series of unsuccessful attempts in several other countries:
    1. Nigeria, May 2013: Local security forces uncovered a Hezbollah terrorist cell that planned to carry out attacks against Israeli targets in the country and other West African states. Authorities arrested three Lebanese citizens who discovered anti-tank missiles, anti-tank mines, grenade launchers, machine guns, hand grenades, tens of thousands of bullets and explosives.

    2. Bulgaria, July 18, 2012: A terrorist detonated a bomb in an Israeli tourist bus in the city of Burgas, Bulgaria. As a result of the attack, five Israeli citizens and a local bus driver were killed. 36 Israelis were injured, three of them were severe.

    3. Cyprus, July 7, 2012: Cypriot authorities arrested 24-year-old Lebanese terrorist Hezbollah, who collected information about Israeli tourists. The terrorist, who, during interrogation, admitted to membership in a terrorist organization, had a Swedish passport with him and collected information to prepare a terrorist attack.

    4. Thailand, January 13, 2012: The Thai authorities uncovered the extensive infrastructure created by Hezbollah over the years to organize terrorist attacks in the region. Security forces arrested Hussein Atris, a Hezbollah terrorist, at Bangkok airport. When he was found passports of Lebanon and Sweden. Another Hezbollah terrorist who also had a Swedish passport was able to escape arrest. The information obtained during the investigation allowed the discovery and seizure of 4,5 tons of chemical materials used in the manufacture of explosives from a commercial building in Bangkok. A month later, on February 14, 2012, the Quds unit attempted to carry out another attack in Bangkok by attaching a makeshift explosive device to an Israeli diplomat’s car with a magnet. This attempt was also prevented.

    5. Turkey, May 26, 2011: Eight Turkish citizens were injured in an attempt on the Israeli consul in Istanbul. The assassination attempt, organized by the Quds unit, was undertaken when Hezbollah members were able to locate the consul. This was preceded by several attempts by Iran and Hezbollah to attack Israeli targets in Turkey in 2009 and 2010.
  • ermolai
    ermolai 7 October 2015 03: 09 New
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    Quote: obraztsov
    what will we do if the states are in a pose

    Hmm, for you this is a question when in front of you in a pose? treat my friend, certainly treat!