VCS: Today GLONASS works in full and covers the entire Earth.

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The Russian GLONASS system is deployed at full strength and covers the entire globe, conveys RIA News Statement of the Chief of Staff 15-th Army VKS Anatoly Nestechuk.

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“Criticism (of the GLONASS system) is not completely fair. The domestic GLONASS system works in full - full coverage of the entire globe. We are very actively developing "
Nestechuk reported on RSN radio station.

According to him, "there are also backup devices that allow you to perform work in emergency situations." The staff number of active devices is 24.

“Today, coverage accuracy is about 3-5 meters, which is comparable to GPS readings,” the general added.

He noted that "the orbital group of the Russian Federation today is 140 spacecraft, including 90 - for military purposes." At the same time, “the old GLONASS-M satellites are being upgraded to a new generation of GLONASS-K, which currently has only two in orbit”.

“From the point of view of replacing GLONASS-M with GLONASS-K, I think that with the prospect of up to 2020, we will make significant progress,” said Nestechuk.

“The need for a national system (navigation) is an indisputable fact. As the analysis of military conflicts has shown, the possibility of introducing intentional amendments is being actively used. We cannot reckon with the information provided by GPS, ”he said.
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  1. +53
    4 October 2015 11: 36
    Congratulations on the holiday, VKS Day!
    Everyone who is involved in this!
    I started in the VKS (Military Space Forces) and now - again the VKS (only - the Airspace Forces!)
    Now I drank a glass for VKS day (today is the 58th anniversary of the launch of the 1st artificial earth satellite!)
    drinks I recall my homeland and my favorite city - Leninsk, Baikonur!
    I wish our VKS victories over jackal-terrorists all over the planet!
    Hurray, comrades! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!
    1. +41
      4 October 2015 11: 45
      Well, thank God (the cosmic) ..! And then I remember, two years ago they fell for an unknown reason .... Over in Syria, how convenient and safe, when your own! hi
      The Syrian people breathed a sigh of relief ... We still came (prepared well)!
      1. +12
        4 October 2015 11: 59
        Without undue noise, the grouping was brought to the desired condition. And now you can use its results. Recently, they still shouted at all angles that GLONASS was not working.
        1. +7
          4 October 2015 12: 22
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Recently, they still shouted at all angles that GLONASS was not working.


          So who was screaming?
          The liberals also shouted: they do not care for the security and sovereignty of Russia!
        2. +4
          4 October 2015 17: 25
          If not for the 90s and EBN, GLONASS would have been launched earlier. But it's good that we managed to do it right now. In Syria, aerial bombs are targeted just by GLONASS. Militants appreciated and hastily "evacuated" soldier
          1. -4
            4 October 2015 19: 17
            Quote: marlin1203
            ... Militants appreciated and hastily "evacuated"

            Where? They find it easier to sit in hospitals and mosques or dissolve among the local Sunni population. Who will bomb them there? And if so, what good will it be? Assad has bombed and to no purpose. request
      2. +16
        4 October 2015 12: 37
        MIKHAN The Syrian people breathed a sigh of relief ... We still came (prepared well)!
        If the Syrians knew how our MO deflected yesterday))) As they say by Freud, then they screwed up a little one of course, at first I didn’t believe it, I thought it was a fake, well then people even posted screenshots)))
        1. +2
          4 October 2015 12: 49
          By the way, Syria, in my opinion, at some time during the Soviet Union asked to join us. I don’t remember exactly, but it was still with Assad’s father. So, anything can be.
        2. +3
          4 October 2015 14: 31
          Quote: Imperial
          If the Syrians knew how our MO deflected yesterday))) As they say by Freud, then they screwed up a little one of course, at first I didn’t believe it, I thought it was a fake, well then people even posted screenshots)))

          Or maybe not a typo ... It's like Freud's test of psychological readiness! Everything can be in the current situation in the world ... A good option, difficult and yet. But first, to wet, so that at the mere mention of us we ran headlong, throwing everything and all the devils ..!
          The Russian bear got angry .... Damn it!
        3. +1
          4 October 2015 19: 31
          Freud Mistake! And what? But what if? (scratches the back of the head) +++
          1. +1
            5 October 2015 00: 05
            Chechnya is not enough for you, would you like to "pour" the restoration of Syria with money from the budget?
        4. 0
          5 October 2015 04: 23
          And it seems like last year there was a message about the introduction of mandatory study of the Russian language in Syrian schools.
    2. +4
      4 October 2015 12: 05
      Quote: Baikonur
      Congratulations on the holiday, VKS Day!
      Everyone who is involved in this!
      I started in the VKS (Military Space Forces) and now - again the VKS (only - the Airspace Forces!)
      Now I drank a glass for VKS day (today is the 58th anniversary of the launch of the 1st artificial earth satellite!)
      drinks I recall my homeland and my favorite city - Leninsk, Baikonur!
      I wish our VKS victories over jackal-terrorists all over the planet!
      Hurray, comrades! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!


      Happy Baikonur, and all of us who have had or are related to space!


    3. +5
      4 October 2015 12: 19
      Quote: Baikonur
      Congratulations on the holiday, VKS Day!
      Everyone who is involved in this!
      I started in the VKS (Military Space Forces) and now - again the VKS (only - the Airspace Forces!)
      Now I drank a glass for VKS day (today is the 58th anniversary of the launch of the 1st artificial earth satellite!)
      drinks I recall my homeland and my favorite city - Leninsk, Baikonur!
      I wish our VKS victories over jackal-terrorists all over the planet!
      Hurray, comrades! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!

      Quote: Baikonur
      Congratulations on the holiday, VKS Day!
      Everyone who is involved in this!
      I started in the VKS (Military Space Forces) and now - again the VKS (only - the Airspace Forces!)
      Now I drank a glass for VKS day (today is the 58th anniversary of the launch of the 1st artificial earth satellite!)
      drinks I recall my homeland and my favorite city - Leninsk, Baikonur!
      I wish our VKS victories over jackal-terrorists all over the planet!
      Hurray, comrades! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!

      hi Evgeniy! Happy Holidays to ALL! True, when I arrived in Leninsk, the Aerospace Forces did not yet exist and we were listed as "stepchildren" of the Strategic Missile Forces. soldier
    4. +1
      4 October 2015 12: 22
      Where exactly in the vks
    5. +2
      4 October 2015 14: 56
      In the morning in the news I saw it. I am more and more proud of my country.
  2. +12
    4 October 2015 11: 37
    All will be! Down with navigational dependence on the USA.
    1. +7
      4 October 2015 11: 51
      Quote: AGAIN
      Down with navigational dependence on the USA.



      However, do not forget that GLONASS, like JPS, will "collapse" by opponents at the start of a global war ...

      So the "old-fashioned" methods of navigation should not be neglected and should not be forgotten ...
      1. +3
        4 October 2015 12: 12
        Quote: veksha50
        like jps

        GPS (Global Positioning System)
        1. +4
          4 October 2015 12: 41
          Quote: Homo
          GPS (Global Positioning System)



          Lord, when typing the wrong letter I pressed, and went on ... After all, everyone understood what it was about ...

          PS Thank you for the correction tip ...
    2. -5
      4 October 2015 12: 09
      Quote: AGAIN
      All will be! Down with navigational dependence on the USA.

      To do this, you must do your receivers. EMNIP then GLONAS chip did Quelcom.
      1. +7
        4 October 2015 12: 15
        Quote: professor
        To do this, you must do your receivers. EMNIP then GLONAS chip did Quelcom.

        Most of the new "bourgeois" devices work with GLONASS. And it's easier to make your own receivers than to launch satellites into orbit.
        1. -22
          4 October 2015 12: 17
          Quote: Homo
          And making your receivers easier than launching satellites into orbit.

          Yes. Only the receivers will then be the size of a brick and weigh as well, and the battery will hold for 20 minutes. wink

          1. +9
            4 October 2015 13: 00
            Quote: professor
            Only the receivers will then be the size of a brick and weigh as well, and the battery will hold for 20 minutes

            By the way, about the birds. GLONASS is older than GPS, and a year ago, 911 asked for permission to use GLONASS in emergency situations. GEs have a terrible signal with low clouds
            1. +4
              4 October 2015 13: 23
              Quote: Tusv
              GEs have a terrible signal with low clouds

              Ett just the other day drove through the Ural mountains, the fog-ZhPS brazenly died and the nafigator turned me cool ... back wink
              1. +2
                4 October 2015 16: 49
                Quote: professor
                Yes. Only the receivers will then be the size of a brick and weigh as well, and the battery will hold for 20 minutes

                Can you tell me what the Israeli analogue of GLONASS or GPS is called? And then something happened with the memory, I just can’t remember.
                1. -2
                  4 October 2015 19: 19
                  Quote: Rostov
                  Can you tell me what the Israeli analogue of GLONASS or GPS is called? And then something happened with the memory, I just can’t remember.

                  I use the Quelk chip developed in Haifa. And you?
                  1. 0
                    5 October 2015 18: 39
                    Quote: professor
                    I use the Quelk chip developed in Haifa. And you?

                    And I use Russian GLONASS and American GPS, without which you can use this chip as a keychain laughing
                    1. -1
                      5 October 2015 20: 13
                      Quote: Rostov
                      And I use Russian GLONASS and American GPS, without which you can use this chip as a keychain

                      Do you receive and process a signal from a satellite on an arithmometer or is it still on a bourgeois device? wink
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2015 23: 43
                        Right dances of the holy fool with an import keychain of sigazization from BelAZ under cymbals, and in a tambourine ...

                        This is called - DALY TO EARN !!!

                        about how the interior design of the airbus is entrusted to Israeli firms ... lol
            2. -17
              4 October 2015 13: 41
              Quote: Tusv
              GEs have a terrible signal with low clouds

              But I didn’t know. I’m running with my Garmin on my hand in any cloud cover. wassat
              1. +6
                4 October 2015 13: 44
                Quote: Professor
                But I didn’t know. I run with my Garmin on my hand in any cloud cover

                And hi vi low cloudiness in Israel knotted?
                1. -1
                  4 October 2015 13: 49
                  Quote: Tusv
                  And hi vi low cloudiness in Israel knotted?

                  Where to us. We have no clouds, no fogs, no sandstorms. By the way, I'm going to change my Garmin to a new one. He already rules on two systems. In the mountains it will work better.
                  1. +3
                    4 October 2015 14: 06
                    Quote: Professor
                    He already rules on two systems

                    Well, in the Israeli mountains and the Chinese will tell you the way fellow Do not get lost lol
                    1. -4
                      4 October 2015 14: 10
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Well, in the Israeli mountains, and the Chinese will tell you the way. Do not get lost

                      What are you saying? Every year, dead tourists thinking like you are caught there.



                      1. 0
                        4 October 2015 14: 29
                        In Russia, it’s not dogov called hills; But here you are right, cosmic signals are stable there
                    2. +1
                      4 October 2015 21: 17
                      The proKhvesor became insolent, confused "Military Review" with "Echo of Israel", "Rain" and "Apostrophe"!
                  2. +2
                    4 October 2015 14: 14
                    Quote: Professor
                    By the way, I'm going to change my Garmin to a new one. He already rules on two systems

                    By the way. for dual-system, we issued a license only to the Chinese (we would still steal). So where is your Garmin from? lol
                    1. -1
                      4 October 2015 14: 22
                      Quote: Tusv
                      By the way. for dual-system, we issued a license only to the Chinese (we would still steal).

                      What makes you think that in order to catch an open signal you need a license?

                      Quote: Tusv
                      So where is your Garmin from?

                      From America. They developed it there. They made a chip there, but assembled it in China.
                      1. +2
                        4 October 2015 14: 34
                        Quote: Professor
                        From America. They developed it there. They made a chip there, but assembled it in China.

                        Hedgehog it’s clear that the most American gadgets deliver to Israel, the only underworld outorities, but American
                      2. -2
                        4 October 2015 14: 48
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Hedgehog it’s clear that the most American gadgets deliver to Israel, the only underworld outorities, but American

                        I have a harmin civilian. I go in for sports with him and I don’t take him to the Army. The army has its own gadgets among which are many locally produced.
                      3. 0
                        4 October 2015 22: 53
                        Quote: professor
                        What makes you think that in order to catch an open signal you need a license?

                        At least you need an encoding and a standard in what actually broadcast wink
                        PS: in the mountains of the ZhPS the guano is rare, especially when the compass is turned on by the magnet laughing
                  3. 0
                    5 October 2015 12: 56
                    Fenix ​​3 take, a good machine! I use it myself.
                    1. 0
                      5 October 2015 20: 07
                      Quote: Kibalchish
                      Fenix ​​3 take, a good machine! I use it myself.

                      Yes, I doubted it. I read that bourgeois users write ...
                      Either because of two systems, or because of what, sensitivity to satellite signals is weak. Navigation is often buggy.
                      Problems with determining / setting altitude.
                      1. 0
                        6 October 2015 10: 42
                        Maybe it's in the firmware? I don’t have any problems.
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              2. +1
                4 October 2015 16: 10
                Who are we running from ???
                1. -2
                  4 October 2015 19: 19
                  Quote: An60
                  Who are we running from ???

                  From a heart attack.
              3. +3
                4 October 2015 19: 52
                N / respected professional. Reading the forum for more than two years, I could not stand it and registered specifically to ask you: How much free time do I need to spoil absolutely all the branches of this site? (For many years !!!) Do you experience the moral pleasure of communicating with people you don’t know personally, over whose mind you simply mock. I am more than sure that you have not the slightest relation to the Jewish nation, for it would simply be unfair to it.
                I deeply grieve, but the photo of the person on your profile picture never matches your moral character. You may not answer, but I believe that our discussion will end before it begins. To be treated, treated and treated. Form (Ulyanov)
                1. 0
                  4 October 2015 19: 55
                  Quote: Petergofsky73
                  N / respected professional. Reading the forum for more than two years, I could not stand it and registered specifically to ask you the same

                  Have you asked? Are you satisfied? Now you can leave with a sense of accomplishment. laughing

                  PS
                  especially liked: good
                  Quote: Petergofsky73
                  to spoil absolutely all branches of this site?
                2. +1
                  4 October 2015 22: 55
                  Quote: Petergofsky73
                  but the photo of the person in your profile picture never matches your moral character

                  Correspondingly, he is the prototype of the same compiler.
          2. +3
            4 October 2015 13: 14
            Proheessssorrr, but how many of your electronics in your technology are more than 99% or is it still a little less?
            Come on, tell us about your most bricked bricks in the world ... We are intrigued and listen carefully.
            1. -2
              4 October 2015 13: 43
              Quote: born_in_cssr
              Proheessssorrr, but how many of your electronics in your technology are more than 99% or is it still a little less?

              Sereuzha, we mostly do our own thing.


              Quote: neri73-r
              In vain you, professor, posted collar photos ...... our people with humor, carelessness! laughing

              I'm not used to it.
              1. 0
                5 October 2015 00: 31
                Quote: professor
                Sereuzha, we mostly do our own thing.

                Herr Professor well, how not ashamed to "star" so!
                "Morkvu", fu-15, fu-16 and Dolphin .... and do it yourself!
                Do not get tired !?
                Quote: professor
                I'm not used to it.

                "star," fact! do not get used to!
                Herr Professor's motto: "Star" in life!
          3. +3
            4 October 2015 13: 23
            In vain you, professor, posted collar photos ...... our people with humor, carelessness! laughing
        2. +1
          4 October 2015 12: 27
          Quote: Homo
          And making your receivers easier than launching satellites into orbit.


          This is what is called "dependence", which ends (or begins ???) with the loss of sovereignty
      2. +1
        4 October 2015 12: 22
        Quote: professor
        To do this, you must do your receivers. EMNIP then GLONAS chip did Quelcom.

        What do you do for the army too? laughing
        1. -7
          4 October 2015 12: 26
          Quote: i80186
          What do you do for the army too?

          Yeah. They are trying to import the Chinese ...


          Quote: MIKHAN
          But homemade pipe pipes are missed nevertheless ... Love you to brag! In the blood it is ... Well oh well!

          No one gives a 100% guarantee. Materiel.

          PS
          God grant that yours in Latakia did not have to meet with these homemade products. You have nothing to shoot them down. request
          1. +3
            4 October 2015 12: 40
            God grant that yours in Latakia did not have to meet with these homemade products. You have nothing to shoot them down.


            We have a skating rink, let’s roll it! The main thing is that the rink wouldn’t go further and the nuclear weapons will not help, you won’t have time to get it.
            1. -13
              4 October 2015 13: 25
              Quote: neri73-r
              We have a skating rink, let’s roll it! The main thing is that the rink wouldn’t go further and the nuclear weapons will not help, you won’t have time to get it.

              Do not have time? Are we going to shell, or as usual bearded children?

              Quote: i80186
              1892VM10YA - in military performance, radiation resistant, look, enlighten

              Looked enlightened. What does he have to do with Glonass? Where was the element base made with a minimum topological element size of 0,13 microns? Know what sizes of elements now have Intel?

              Quote: Tusv
              "It would be foolish to produce something that can be bought cheaper in China."

              In China, EVERYTHING is cheaper to buy.

              Quote: born_in_cssr
              God forbid that yours do not have to meet with our rest baby talk and an attempt to measure the device.

              And then you immediately Topoli or you sacrifice all 28th aircraft? wink
              1. 0
                4 October 2015 13: 32
                Quote: professor
                And then you immediately Topoli or you sacrifice all 28th aircraft?

                It smells bad, even for you laughing
                Do you really think that if there will be a fleeting air battle due to the fact that yours stick their nose where it is not necessary and get snot, then this will have a different continuation than the mutual exchange of "concerns"? Are you a maniac then ?! laughing
              2. +2
                4 October 2015 13: 34
                Quote: professor
                Looked enlightened. What does he have to do with Glonass? Where was the element base made with a minimum topological element size of 0,13 microns? Know what sizes of elements now have Intel?

                You do not understand what you are talking about. I will not explain. smile
              3. 0
                4 October 2015 14: 04
                For the sake of this, you can even all 50th. wassat
              4. +1
                4 October 2015 21: 56
                Professor! The boy studied with me alone. In general, also from yours, from Berdichev. So he was a "specialist" in all fields of science and technology. We glued it to him
                "AUTOMOTIVE BIKE HEATING AND HUNTING". In all areas of his "knowledge" and "skills". And this is how much I have had to deal with your brother, everyone always knows everything! But as soon as you give them the opportunity to "steer", they will surely get fucked up. There is a plug for each barrel.
                1. 0
                  4 October 2015 22: 15
                  Quote: 1rl141
                  CAR BIKE PHOTO HEATING

                  What kind of professor is he. Elementary class 10 physics does not know. Goryuchka for companions - to go nuts. Mosk engineering system
                  1. -1
                    4 October 2015 22: 19
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Goryuchka for companions - to go nuts.

                    Can you imagine? In order to maintain navigation satellites in a given orbit, they need fuel (fuel). And when this fuel runs out, the satellite ceases to exist. Materiel. fellow

                    The global positioning system

                    The satellites have a lifetime of about 10 years until all their fuel runs out.
                    1. 0
                      4 October 2015 23: 24
                      Quote: Professor
                      Can you imagine? In order to maintain navigation satellites in a given orbit, they need fuel (fuel).

                      Damn, I thought it a sinful thing that goryuchka is needed to correct the orbit and output from it, the rest is done by physics. How terribly wrong I am. That is, I’m a dvoeshnik, not you
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2015 00: 33
                        If something is written somewhere (even in English), this does not mean that it is true ... wink
                      2. 0
                        5 October 2015 07: 36
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Damn, I thought it a sinful thing that goryuchka is needed to correct the orbit and output from it, the rest is done by physics. How terribly wrong I am. That is, I’m a dvoeshnik, not you

                        And I thought that the fuel is needed to heat the stove on them, but now I know why it is needed. Thank you enlightened.

                        Quote: Scraptor
                        If something is written somewhere (even in English), this does not mean that it is true ... wink

                        Here you are in Russian:
                        Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS). How it works?
                        We will continue to laugh at the fact that "To keep navigation satellites in a given orbit, they need fuel (fuel)." wink

                        Quote: Papakiko
                        Herr Professor well, how not ashamed to "star" so!
                        "Morkvu", fu-15, fu-16 and Dolphin .... and do it yourself!
                        Do not get tired !?

                        Read carefully, I wrote OWN do it yourself. Falcons, yes Dolphins are imported.
                      3. 0
                        5 October 2015 12: 18
                        Quote: professor
                        Here you are in Russian:
                        Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS). How it works?

                        it says how it works laughing
                      4. 0
                        5 October 2015 20: 04
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        it says how it works

                        Well yes. Write then as it is correct. wink
                      5. 0
                        5 October 2015 23: 58
                        If you compile in your categories, then this is when "your company" is allowed to earn money every six months on the launch of a new satellite.
                        Because something ended there ...

                        Fuel (and oxidizer) to such satellites for 20 thousand km unnecessarily. This ISS is raised regularly, because it flies dozens of times lower, and geostationary satellites are corrected so that they do not drift from the zenith ...
          2. +4
            4 October 2015 12: 45
            Quote: professor
            Yeah. They are trying to import the Chinese ...

            As a slightly involved person, I can tell you the following: You have not heard all about this. 1892VM10YA - in military execution, radiation resistant, we look, we are educated. smile
          3. +1
            4 October 2015 13: 10
            Quote: professor
            Yeah. They are trying to import the Chinese ...

            You must have long gone over the hill. You don’t know much. Two weeks ago, the exhibition was held at the Crocus Expo, the plush on a Kazan helicopter (our helicopter) flew in with the Mi-8.
            You will not believe that there are enough large computer manufacturers in Russia. Here is what they answered to my question about whether all the components are Russian-made: "It would be stupid to produce something that can be bought cheaper in China"
          4. +3
            4 October 2015 13: 17
            Quote: professor
            God grant that yours in Latakia did not have to meet with these homemade products

            God grant that yours do not have to meet with ours wink the rest is babbling and trying to measure the device. However, as usual in your manner.
            1. +2
              4 October 2015 15: 29
              He is a banal demagogue and a mockingbird! Balloons filled with hate completely ... What to talk about with this type ?????
          5. 0
            4 October 2015 14: 00
            Why do you think so? See more youtube (more b / w) ...
          6. +3
            4 October 2015 16: 24
            Quote: professor
            God grant that yours in Latakia did not have to meet with these homemade products. You have nothing to shoot them down.

            But there is something to cover ...
            1. -1
              4 October 2015 19: 21
              Quote: TOR2
              But there is something to cover ...

              Yeah. God forbid they put their PUs with a timer from the washing machine in the mosque and the hospital (we already went through this) and fuck the canteen ... Then cover, do not cover.
      3. 0
        4 October 2015 13: 57
        It’s just such complexity ... more complicated than satellites crying
        1. -4
          4 October 2015 14: 02
          Quote: Scraptor
          It’s just such complexity ... more complicated than satellites crying

          Satellites are not simple, but lifting. Even Iran and North Korea launch satellites into orbit. Moreover, the navigation satellite to hell is simple. Send yourself an accurate time signal and stay in orbit for as long as possible. Thief with last problem. Goryuchki need a lot. From that, satellites often change.
          But a receiver of acceptable size can only be done by a couple of countries. Element base need appropriate.
          1. +3
            4 October 2015 14: 07
            Since when did x-ray lithography become more complex than space exploration?
            1. -4
              4 October 2015 14: 13
              Quote: Scraptor
              Since when did x-ray lithography become more complex than space exploration?

              Since your DAM switched to iPhone. But seriously, the 1970s.
              1. 0
                4 October 2015 14: 23
                Since someone began to extinguish specialists in the USSR on it (from those that did not leave). But those days have already passed ...
                The positioning receiver is an extremely dumb device. Slightly more complicated than a calculator or RFID tags. But forge the grandmother while the rest did not understand.
          2. +3
            4 October 2015 14: 20
            Quote: Professor
            Thief with last problem. Goryuchki need a lot. From that, satellites often change.

            Opera Theater. I’m thinking why the Moon doesn’t fall on us - its flames Gutted. Enlightened. thank
  3. +5
    4 October 2015 11: 37
    Well, the strikes in Syria show that everything is normal.
    1. -16
      4 October 2015 12: 10
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      Well, the strikes in Syria show that everything is normal.

      What is normal? Develop a thought.
      1. +9
        4 October 2015 12: 17
        Blows are delivered right on target, which means normal.
        1. -2
          4 October 2015 12: 21
          Quote: Kos_kalinki9
          Blows are delivered right on target, which means normal.

          1. Not exactly on target. In any case, not always.


          2. What is the relationship with Glonass?
          1. 0
            4 October 2015 12: 31
            "1. Not exactly on target. In any case, not always."
            Why such a conclusion? Are you guided by the crosshairs of the drone video camera or do you personally have the exact data of the "object"?
            "2. What is the connection with Glonass?"
            Also there is evidence that this bomb was dropped by a Russian and not a Syrian plane and not a year ago?
            What ammunition is used by the Russian Air Force - you can see here: http://www.kp.ru/photo/63724/1151616/
            Find ten differences with the video you submitted.
            1. -10
              4 October 2015 12: 34
              Quote: Bograntz
              Why such a conclusion? Are you guided by the crosshairs of the drone video camera or do you personally have the exact data of the "object"?

              I focus on buildings and hitting a hill on which there are no goals.

              Quote: Bograntz
              Also there is evidence that this bomb was dropped by a Russian and not a Syrian plane and not a year ago?

              1. +7
                4 October 2015 12: 57
                By the way, they didn’t hit the building, but at the entrance to the bunker. In nearby lands, there were gas emissions from the ground breaking through the underground passages of the fortified area. Look at it better before writing comments.
                1. -10
                  4 October 2015 13: 34
                  Quote: Tambov Wolf
                  By the way, they didn’t hit the building, but at the entrance to the bunker. In nearby lands, there were gas emissions from the ground breaking through the underground passages of the fortified area. Look at it better before writing comments.

                  I’ve looked at it many times, and not just me. The result is the same. By the way, they do not bother children digging bins near the buildings. They are digging right out of buildings.

                  Quote: CONNECTING ROD VDVshny
                  Your patrons rolled into the smoke the bitter hospital in Kunduz consciously and purposefully? And then one of the ammunition hit the slope?

                  They must be judged for the hospital. And here, not a single one left the target.

                  Quote: Bograntz
                  about there are differences even in the external form of these air bombs you do not see? And the presence of rust on the FAB from your video does not bother you, given that the bombing just started three days ago.

                  I can clearly see what kind of bombs cling to your specialists in Syria. On the Komsomol by the way there are tons of such photos.

                  Quote: Bograntz
                  Yes, but take a closer look at the "hill": on the left, under the base of the hill, the entrances to this hill are quite clearly visible.


                  Yeah. To the center of the earth.
                  Quote: Kos_kalinki9
                  Maybe enough demagogy, or rather divination by a daisy-hit, didn’t hit. The militants are ticking, which means everything is OK.

                  Just don't talk about "militants flowing". The bourgeois flew 7200 sorties and they didn’t run away, but you 20 and all fled. They will run (if they run at all) only during a dense ground operation.
                  1. +3
                    4 October 2015 14: 14
                    Mr. Professor: Buildings are hit first and foremost. You don’t think that ISIS instructors are dumbheads, idiots, and a subtle entrance is very difficult to find and even harder to get into. You need good intelligence and accurate positioning.
                  2. 0
                    4 October 2015 23: 27
                    You can add me to the "engineer". You will have two defeated opponents on your account. I also prefer arguments, not emotions or baseless sarcasm.)))))
              2. +5
                4 October 2015 12: 58
                Quote: professor
                I focus on buildings and hitting a hill on which there are no goals.

                Professor hi
                Your patrons rolled into the smoke the bitter hospital in Kunduz consciously and purposefully? And then one of the ammunition hit the slope? laughing
                Or is it already "exhaust" from getting inside? lol
                Compare ..
              3. +5
                4 October 2015 13: 15
                That is, you don’t see the difference even in the external form of these air bombs? And the presence of rust on the FAB from your video does not bother you, given that the bombing just started three days ago.
                Yes, but take a closer look at the "hill": on the left, under the base of the hill, the entrances to this hill are quite clearly visible.
              4. +5
                4 October 2015 13: 20
                Quote: professor
                I focus on buildings and hitting a hill on which there are no goals.

                The target could be and most likely was UNDER the hill, right?
                and judging by the exit of smoke and dust from all the cracks around the object, we got where you need to!

                The Kalashnikov assault rifle must also say that Syria is full of GRU special forces? You would have shown a photo of cans from under stew ... And it didn't even bother that the "ammunition" was a little rotten ...
                Now I understand who writes speeches to the Ukrainian "specialists". Your handwriting!
                1. -13
                  4 October 2015 13: 45
                  Quote: born_in_cssr
                  The target could be and most likely was UNDER the hill, right?

                  No not like this. They don’t build like that. This is not the Nazis in the 45th. And what accuracy can the FAB have from such a height? Why be surprised?
                  1. +3
                    4 October 2015 13: 50
                    Quote: professor
                    They don’t build like that.

                    If you and your striped friends taught them differently, this does not mean that they are stupid people and are not able to dig rat holes under the hill ... Manuals are certainly good, but the Bedouins have developed the habit of digging underground, for thousands of years.
                    Quote: professor
                    And what accuracy can the FAB have from such a height?

                    I won’t even ask what made you think that it was a FAB, I’m not interested in your fantasies ...
                    1. -8
                      4 October 2015 13: 54
                      Quote: born_in_cssr
                      If you and your striped friends taught them differently, this does not mean that they are stupid people and are not able to dig rat holes under the hill ...

                      You are like children, by golly. Why should they dig under the hill when it is possible under the school, house, mosque? And when the bomb blows down the bunker along with the building, they shout to the whole world about war crimes. Do you know where the Hamas bunkers are? And Hezbollah?

                      Quote: born_in_cssr
                      I won’t even ask what made you think that it was a FAB, I’m not interested in your fantasies ...

                      My fantasies

                      1. +4
                        4 October 2015 14: 01
                        Quote: professor
                        You are like children, by golly. Why should they dig under the hill when it is possible under the school, house, mosque?

                        I'm getting frankly bored ... oh well. I will tell you a very simple truth.
                        Front and rear bases differ in what? Correctly, remoteness from locations from the enemy. This is the time.
                        Two - to place the advanced base where it can be covered with mortar fire is not smart, so there was hardly anything other than a latrine in an ordinary house (building). To bomb tremors is to the USA. They just succeeded in this matter.
                        Three - Assad does not have or did not have aviation and, moreover, the necessary ammunition to open such a hole, so where was the base? Right! under the hill!
                        What else was there? And there were still a lot of rat passages there, as in all similar points of dushmans.

                        What do we see in the video? Ammunition falling into the hill and a lot of smoke exit around the perimeter from various manholes.
                        Quote: professor
                        My fantasies

                        That's why you are copying this nonsense? The ammunition is firstly different, and secondly rotten. The reliability of the information that this is the ammunition of the Russian Aerospace Forces tends to minus infinity. Set aside this nonsense for newspapers in Ukraine.
                        And even more so, this nonsense does not prove that the FAB was used on the hill.
                      2. -8
                        4 October 2015 14: 08
                        Quote: born_in_cssr
                        I will tell you a very simple truth.

                        Do not. No need to talk about what you do not understand. The IS is not really a state and it has no army. There are no forward and rear bases. 90% of these are terrorists on pickup trucks with DShKs that are dissolving among the local population.
                        Assad has enough aircraft to drop the fab from a high altitude.
                        Show you what the explosion of holes looks like with the release of smoke and gas from the inlets or do you find yourself?
                      3. +6
                        4 October 2015 14: 15
                        You're lying, frankly lying and pulling your ears laughing
                        It’s just in order to dig a hole, and not a full-fledged underground fortification, and you don’t need to be a "state".
                        To do this, it’s enough to be an illiterate blockhead with a shovel and a desire to live. Further savvy itself will tell.
                        Quote: professor
                        Show you what the explosion of holes looks like with the release of smoke and gas from the inlets or do you find yourself?

                        Professor, I am an engineer and what is the pressure drop along the length of the pipe (in this case, burrows) and what the gas exit looks like from the gust, I have seen not on the video. And I also have an idea of ​​the volume of gas exit from the "pipe" depending on its cross section. And I also understand perfectly well that in any hole there must be drainage and ventilation holes through which thin streams of smoke and plump ones came out through the holes.
                        So I don’t need here your trolling designed for the fifth grader your schools.
                      4. -9
                        4 October 2015 14: 23
                        Quote: born_in_cssr
                        Professor, I’m an engineer and what is the pressure drop along the length of the pipe (in this case burrows) and what the gas outlet from the rush looks like, I have not seen on the video either.

                        Show or can you show us? wink
                      5. +3
                        4 October 2015 14: 27
                        Show. Not all the same language ... laughing

                        Along with explanations of how many explosives there were, the volume of the bunker, the length of the tunnels (ventilation shafts) and the condition of their entrances.
                      6. +5
                        4 October 2015 14: 28
                        Quote: professor
                        Show or can you show us?

                        It’s better to write Klitschko’s and other Masiychuks from Psaki.
                        A discussion of the next fake from the professor, with proof that black is white and white is black, the brain of an ordinary person can not stand it. For today, the dose of the professor was enough for me ...
                        hi
                      7. +2
                        4 October 2015 14: 31
                        It’s like a bonus ... Or belay the opposite?
                      8. -7
                        4 October 2015 14: 43
                        Quote: born_in_cssr
                        For today, the dose of the professor was enough for me ...

                        How quickly the opponent was blown away, as well as an engineer and a tunnel explorer. wassat

                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Show. Not only a lingual.

                        view from the ground





                        aerial view


                        Burrow Entrance Bombing
                      9. +5
                        4 October 2015 14: 58
                        In the first video, was a companion busy installing a beacon to aim the bomb? And nothing showed in the shtirlitsa Israeli soldier?

                        Professor, when, somewhere far from observation, the bunker is dug, it is easier to do this with a horizontal mine working and not dig a well from the building. And to bring soil (and cement to be delivered) by dump trucks, and not to raise / lower it with wineskins, dirty carpets in the hallway.
                      10. -6
                        4 October 2015 15: 08
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        In the first video, was a companion busy installing a beacon to aim the bomb? And nothing showed in the shtirlitsa Israeli soldier?

                        The sappers know their work.

                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Professor, when, somewhere far from observation, the bunker is dug, it is easier to do this with a horizontal mine working and not dig a well from the building. And to bring soil (and cement to be delivered) by dump trucks, and not to raise / lower it with wineskins, dirty carpets in the hallway.

                        When it comes to the army, this is one thing, when about children it is another. Igilovsky terrorists with manners on statehood. Almost like Hezbollah and Hamas. Both those and others and the third fight hiding behind the skirts of women. That’s why bunkers are being dug under buildings, schools and hospitals. There is no better cover. They dig with a pickaxe and a hoe, and therefore they dig mono-pensally vertically or horizontally. They will never make the entrance to the bunker on the hill when the entrance can be made from the building. such is their tactics and strategy.
                      11. +2
                        4 October 2015 15: 32
                        Not on the hill but at its foot. Moreover, houses usually do not stand on better soil, which is taken out harder.
                        They do and they did in Afghanistan. Syria is not Gaza where everything is viewed and some kind of conspiracy is needed.
              5. +2
                4 October 2015 19: 06
                "Professor", you still didn't want to see the difference.
                1. +1
                  4 October 2015 19: 37
                  Quote: Bograntz
                  "Professor", you still didn't want to see the difference.

                  Left and right portray not smart fab. Not?

                  Quote: Scraptor
                  Usually accurate, professor, exactly ...

                  Why show the bourgeois bomb?

                  Quote: Bograntz
                  "Professor", it is not difficult to argue with you, it is useless to argue with you, because you are guided not by objective data, but by your personal axiom: "I am D-Artatyan, and all the others are cardinal's guards."

                  I showed the video. I can still show, and the opponent is only blah blah blah. Engineer damn it.

                  Quote: Bograntz
                  You compare Hamas and Hezbollah with Isis, but you forget that ISIL had no reason to wage war by the methods of Hezbollah partisans, that there are many former Iraqi officers in the ranks of ISIS who are used to fighting using regular units.

                  All 3 terrorist organizations have the same goals. All of them are "consulted" by career officers.

                  Quote: Bograntz
                  Compare the equipment places of Hamas tunnels for the supply of weapons, with the equipment of the entrances to houses and ISIS command posts equipped by the standards of army fortification ....

                  Hamas digs not only tunnels for kotraband, but also bunkers and command posts. Hezbollah too. I can show a photo.
                  1. 0
                    5 October 2015 00: 08
                    Who prompted or did you notice? bully
            2. 0
              4 October 2015 18: 22
              Quote: Bograntz
              "1. Not exactly on target. In any case, not always."
              Why such a conclusion? Are you guided by the crosshairs of the drone video camera or do you personally have the exact data of the "object"?
              "2. What is the connection with Glonass?"
              Also there is evidence that this bomb was dropped by a Russian and not a Syrian plane and not a year ago?
              What ammunition is used by the Russian Air Force - you can see here: http://www.kp.ru/photo/63724/1151616/
              Find ten differences with the video you submitted.

              Guys, you can minus, but the video shows that really not all bombs hit the target. But this is okay if these are simple free-fall bombs. For them, such accuracy, on the contrary, is very good, and no one suffered from their mistakes (at least, except for the terrorists). I do not understand why you enter into meaningless polemics with Israeli provocateurs - that's all they need to show each other what anti-Semites are all around, etc. You better look at what the "partners" are doing in Afghanistan!
          2. +2
            4 October 2015 12: 50
            What is the connection with Glonass?


            And no one said that everything is with GLONAS, where possible - in the old grandfather way in the squares for horror and maximum defeat!
          3. +2
            4 October 2015 12: 54
            [quote = professor] [quote = Kos_kalinki9] The blows are delivered exactly at the target. That means normal. [/ quote]
            1. Not exactly on target. In any case, not always.
            Professor, and you, the ultimate truth? And your findings and data are 100% true? Maybe enough demagogy, or rather divination by a daisy-hit, didn’t hit. The militants are ticking, which means everything is OK. Well honestly, I'm tired of your God-chosen. Although I am waiting for the next panegyric of the Israeli Air Force on your part.
            1. +2
              4 October 2015 15: 41
              Once again, the professor-demagogue in the last resort ....
            2. 0
              4 October 2015 21: 30
              Yes, this son of "mozis" deliberately turns everyone on! The proKhvesor became insolent, confused "Military Review" with "Echo of Israel", "Rain" and "Apostrophe"! And rejoices in the general "attention"! Don't get fooled!
          4. +2
            4 October 2015 16: 15
            Usually accurate, professor, exactly ...

      2. +3
        4 October 2015 12: 29
        Professor ..... What is normal? Develop a thought.


        Sorry, not quite the topic, but for your flag just right.
        Su-30 "chased" Israeli (American-made) F-15, trying to enter the zone
        actions of the hard currency of the Russian Federation in Syria. (usnext.ru/news/1443914082).
        And all involved - WITH HOLIDAY!
      3. +2
        4 October 2015 13: 36
        Both on. Not like manuals sent out. For our time, is unforgivably long.
  4. +3
    4 October 2015 11: 37
    Interestingly, only we and Amers have their own positioning systems, or can someone else in the world afford this?
    1. +5
      4 October 2015 11: 46
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Interestingly, only we and Amers have their own positioning systems, or can someone else in the world afford this?

      There are others.

      GALILEO (European Union)

      The GALILEO European navigation system is in the process of developing a satellite constellation. It is fully planned to be deployed by the end of 2020. The successful launch of the Galileo project will make it possible to increase the number of operational navigation satellites available to users by more than two times. This step will not only improve the quality of work in standalone mode, but also increase the accuracy of determining coordinates and expand the capabilities of GPS equipment.

      IRNSS (India)

      The Indian Navigation Satellite System IRNSS is also under development. The first satellite of this system was launched in 2008. It is planned that the satellite constellation IRNSS will consist of seven satellites in geosynchronous orbits. All of them will have constant radio communication with Indian control stations.

      QUASI-ZENITH (QZSS) (Japan)

      The Japanese Quasi-Zenith Navigation System (QZSS) was developed back in 2002 and is a commercial system with a set of functions designed to promote communications, broadcasting and widespread use for navigation in Japan and parts of Southeast Asia. The first satellite for QZSS was launched in 2008. In the near future it is planned to begin the next test phase of this navigation system.

      COMPASS (China)

      The Chinese COMPASS global positioning system is intended for use only in this country. Its feature is a small number of satellites that are in geostationary orbit. Judging by the forecasts, by the end of 2012 the system will be able to cover the Asia-Pacific region, and by 2020 (by this time the number of satellites is planned to increase to 35) COMPASS will be able to work as a global system. The implementation of this program began in 2000. Today, eight navigation satellites of the COMPASS system are operating in the Earth’s orbit. In the near future, China plans to establish interaction of its navigation system with foreign ones.

      The situation when the term GPS is used as a generally accepted concept of a global navigation system is not difficult to explain: GPS as an American satellite navigation system is the only system in the world working for consumer needs. The rest of the global navigation systems (including GLONASS) are imperfect. Among the disadvantages of these systems are a large error in determining the coordinates, a small number of satellites, the low prevalence of client equipment, and others.
      But with the conclusion of the article that GLONASS is imperfect, one can no longer agree. Although at the household level we use American. Well, nothing, dashing trouble has begun.
      1. +1
        4 October 2015 12: 12
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        Although at the household level we use American. Well, nothing, dashing trouble has begun.

        Not really. The Glonass receiver also stands in the same iPhone. And in other household appliances too.
        1. +1
          4 October 2015 13: 39
          You got it the day before yesterday, "stripped" right up to the colonel, the branch was already burning with redness, maybe you shouldn't throw the minuses so hard (this is not a professor for you), it just sometimes seemed that the minus was just put "automatically." consider increasing the number of likes necessary to obtain the next rank. I will say for myself, I registered recently, and already a colonel ... it is difficult to imagine called up in the fall, and by the New Year is already a general. These guys have been for several years already, what no experience, but with the minuses it's still easier.
          1. 0
            4 October 2015 22: 20
            Are we here, for ranks chopped? I personally do not care for these site titles. The title I received for 30 years of service is enough for me.
            In general, is it aware that every military rank in Russia is divided by another 3?
            There are, for example, just "colonel", "mister colonel" and "hey! Colonel!"
            I'd rather be "Master Sergeant Major" than as a professor "Hey! Colonel! Stick up the barrel!"
          2. 0
            5 October 2015 18: 20
            Quote: katalonec2014
            You got it the day before yesterday, "stripped" right up to the colonel, the branch was already blazing with red, maybe you shouldn't throw minuses so hard

            Do not worry so, because the army proverb says - we ib, (guilty) minus, and we grow stronger. And in secret - the "Professor" has a lot of hidden internal and external reserves. You will not have time to look around - there are fewer stars, but larger in size and without gaps. The Phoenix bird is dying with envy. lol
      2. +3
        4 October 2015 16: 00
        ...
        Among the disadvantages of these systems is a large error in determining the coordinates, a small number of satellites

        1. Only GLONASS and ZHPS - GLOBAL (coverage - the entire planet)
        2. The error for general use is artificially high (for both)
        3. Who is more precise - ABSOLUTELY, PERFECT SECRET !!! AND YOU AND WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE ABOUT THIS !!!
        4. ERROR IN WAR TIME WILL BE TURNED OFF FOR ITS OWN !!! And for general use, the channels will be turned off !!!
        so there is no need to measure "characteristics" that are not even visible from the side! laughing
    2. +2
      4 October 2015 11: 51
      [quot = Dr. Bormental] Interesting, but only we and Amers have their own positioning systems, or can someone else in the world afford this? [/ quote]
      There is European Galilio and Chinese Beidou, but only ours and the American cover the ball
  5. +3
    4 October 2015 11: 39
    The Americans deliberately distort the GPS navigation system data in the conflict zone, Major General Anatoly Nestechuk, chief of staff of the 15th Army of the Aerospace Forces (special forces), told the Russian News Service on air.


    “As the analysis of recent armed conflicts showed, the enemy is actively using the possibility of introducing deliberate amendments to the navigation characteristics of their systems for misinformation. And we cannot reckon with the information that is received from GPS receivers, ”he said, TASS reports.



    “Indeed, they use it,” the general confirmed.
    The domestic GLONASS system is fully operational - full coverage of the entire globe. We are developing very actively, ”said Nestechuk, RIA Novosti reports.

    He noted that there are also backup devices that allow you to perform work in emergency situations. Regular use involves the use of active 24 devices.

    “Today, the accuracy of the coverage is about 3-5 meters, which is comparable with the GPS,” he said.

    http://vz.ru/news/2015/10/3/770321.html
    1. 0
      4 October 2015 12: 02
      Lord, how many of them fly there, plus military, commercial ... I’m surely missed something, please add affection.
    2. +3
      4 October 2015 12: 25
      “As an analysis of recent armed conflicts has shown, enemy actively uses the possibility of introducing deliberate amendments to the navigation characteristics of their systems for disinformation. And we cannot reckon with the information that is received from GPS receivers, "he said, reports TASS." (C)
      Please note: the word "probable" is missing. Things began to be called by their proper names.
  6. +1
    4 October 2015 11: 41
    What about towers in the USA? Settled this issue?
  7. +8
    4 October 2015 11: 41
    Late evening. Fall. Abandoned village. Three grandmothers are sitting on the rubble and watching how a heaped jeep passes by them along a rutted with dirt from a dirt. A minute passes. A clang and a rumble is heard: the jeep falls into a steep ravine and explodes.

    One grandmother another:

    “Hey, Savelyevna, drop a tick.” Today is the fourth on the navigator drove ...
    1. 0
      5 October 2015 18: 26
      Quote: Abbra
      Hey, Savelyevna, drop a tick. Today is the fourth on the navigator drove ...

      Somehow I was sent to the forest from the highway in a charming voice. I called a friend. He obmterit in a friendly and sent in the desired azimuth.
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  9. +2
    4 October 2015 11: 46
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    Interestingly, only we and Amers have their own positioning systems, or can someone else in the world afford this?

    Of the really working systems anywhere in the world, yes - only Glonass and GPS, but China, India and Europeans are preparing their navigation systems.
  10. +4
    4 October 2015 11: 54
    the hydrometcenter also works without interruptions ... a forecast similar to trolling

    1. +2
      4 October 2015 12: 25
      Quote: morozik
      trolling-like forecast


      Well duck ... laughing laughing laughing good
    2. +2
      4 October 2015 12: 34
      Quote: morozik
      the hydrometcenter also works without interruptions ... a forecast similar to trolling

      Klasssss !!!!! good laughing
    3. +2
      4 October 2015 12: 42
      laughing laughing I imagined how some beard turned on the television to watch the weather for tomorrow. laughing laughing laughing
  11. 0
    4 October 2015 11: 58
    Something I still do not fully understand the whole structure of the airborne forces - does the 15th army of the airborne forces belong to the HF? (space troops). And did the Air Defense Forces, which are now as a separate branch of the forces in the airborne forces, withdraw from the Air Force?
  12. dsi
    0
    4 October 2015 12: 04
    The Americans deliberately distort the GPS navigation system data in the conflict zone, Major General Anatoly Nestechuk, chief of staff of the 15th Army of the Aerospace Forces (special forces), told the Russian News Service on air.

    After the amer bombardment of the hospital, I have no doubt at all.
  13. -1
    4 October 2015 12: 07
    The domestic GLONASS system works in full - the full coverage of the entire globe.

    Great news. good We are waiting for the Chinese and Europeans with their systems.
    1. +2
      4 October 2015 12: 10
      And why doesn’t Israel have its own navigation? They are constantly fighting with various fanatics.
      1. +1
        4 October 2015 12: 15
        Quote: Wunderwaffle
        And why doesn’t Israel have its own navigation? They are constantly fighting with various fanatics.

        GPS suits us. Moreover, the latest trend is to make precision-guided munitions independent of satellite signals. For example, a ground-to-ground missile based on the ZK Tamir rocket, the Spice and Delilah families.
        1. +3
          4 October 2015 12: 23
          Quote: professor
          Quote: Wunderwaffle
          And why doesn’t Israel have its own navigation? They are constantly fighting with various fanatics.

          GPS suits us. Moreover, the latest trend is to make precision-guided munitions independent of satellite signals. For example, a ground-to-ground missile based on the ZK Tamir rocket, the Spice and Delilah families.

          But homemade pipe pipes are missed nevertheless ... Love you to brag! In the blood it is ... Well oh well!
        2. 0
          4 October 2015 12: 43
          Quote: professor
          GPS suits us. Moreover, the latest trend is to make precision-guided munitions independent of satellite signals. For example, a ground-to-ground missile based on the ZK Tamir rocket, the Spice and Delilah families.

          But is it only ammunition? What about navigation? For the pilots of the same ..
          1. +4
            4 October 2015 13: 40
            Quote: Manul
            But is it only ammunition? What about navigation? For the pilots of the same ..

            Pancake. Also found the great cosmic power of Israel. Why should we keep an expensive space group when the Americans give us their free use? We are not going to fight with America, and when Obama goes back to the jungle, relations with the United States will improve.
            1. 0
              5 October 2015 07: 49
              Quote: professor

              Pancake. Also found the great cosmic power of Israel. Why should we keep an expensive space grouping when the Americans give us their free use?

              Have you started to answer honestly and correctly? hi Even nice to talk in that way.
              We are not going to fight with America,
              And if they sponsor those who want to destroy you?
              relations with the US will improve.
              That is, is this a priority?
              not going to fight
              I myself am for world peace. But such a slogan was only in my beloved country of advice. And something no one seeks to maintain order. And your state support is a direct contribution to inciting world conflicts.
              1. 0
                5 October 2015 08: 07
                Quote: Manul
                Have you started to answer honestly and correctly? Even nice to talk in that way.

                We have holidays, a lot of free time. I have to go to work tomorrow. sad And I always answer honestly.

                Quote: Manul
                And if they sponsor those who want to destroy you?

                We cannot compete with America.

                Quote: Manul
                That is, is this a priority?

                I think yes. In any case, the current situation is unbearable.

                Quote: Manul
                I myself am for world peace. But such a slogan was only in my beloved country of advice.

                What does the slogan. Here all of their own were buried. Tired of it.

                Quote: Manul
                And your state support is a direct contribution to fueling global conflicts.

                What kind of support? request
                1. 0
                  5 October 2015 08: 18
                  Quote: professor
                  What does the slogan. Here all of their own were buried. Tired of it.

                  We have too. The slogan is a reflection of the desires of our people, not propaganda.
                  What kind of support?

                  The moral lol No, I'm serious.
                  1. 0
                    5 October 2015 08: 20
                    Quote: Manul
                    The moral

                    There is only one owner on this planet and he does not need moral support.
                    1. 0
                      5 October 2015 08: 41
                      Quote: professor
                      There is only one owner on this planet and he does not need moral support.

                      I do not agree. The masters are peoples, and the criminal rulers are invaders. And no matter how much time passes, anyway, sooner or later there will be peace on the planet, I believe in it. I am not naive. I'm stubborn.
                      And about one "owner" - we'll see. Yes, and you don’t worry. Power is not only in the truth.
                    2. 0
                      5 October 2015 12: 13
                      If this is about the United States, then this "owner" can be reduced to the size of the Utah Mormon reservation, even by peaceful, but paramilitary, means in 3-4 years. And they have recently known this ...
        3. 0
          4 October 2015 12: 56
          Quote: professor
          Quote: Wunderwaffle
          And why doesn’t Israel have its own navigation? They are constantly fighting with various fanatics.

          GPS suits us. Moreover, the latest trend is to make precision-guided munitions independent of satellite signals. For example, a ground-to-ground missile based on the ZK Tamir rocket, the Spice and Delilah families.

          Aw. I forgot. IRON DOME. Nude, Nude.
  14. +2
    4 October 2015 12: 19
    "The criticism (of the GLONASS system) is not entirely fair."
    Something I cease to understand Russian people. How to understand these words? Few criticized (everything is very bad) or nothing to criticize (everything is cool)? It's time to teach officials the Russian language.
  15. +3
    4 October 2015 12: 46
    There was an opportunity in Syria to test the GLONASS system, and high-precision weapons, and drones, both reconnaissance and strike, in combat conditions.
  16. +5
    4 October 2015 18: 48
    [quote = professor] [quote = Born_v_SSSR] For today, the dose of the professor was enough for me ... [/ quote]
    How quickly the opponent was blown away, as well as an engineer and a tunnel explorer. wassat

    "Professor", it is not difficult to argue with you, it is useless to argue with you, because you are guided not by objective data, but by your personal axiom: "I am D-Artatyan, and all the others are cardinal's guards." Arguing with you is like arguing with a deaf person. And from this it becomes simply meaningless. You compare Hamas and Hezbollah with ISIS, but you forget that ISIS until this day had no reason to wage war using the methods of Hezbollah guerrillas, that in the ranks of ISIS there are many former Iraqi officers who are used to fighting using the methods of regular units. Compare the places where the Hamas tunnels are equipped for the supply of weapons, with the equipment of the entrances to the houses and command posts of ISIS, equipped by the standards of the army fortification ..... In general ... it would be interesting with you, do not replace logic with your personal ambitions ... ... "great-power" (exaggerating ... slightly).
  17. +1
    4 October 2015 20: 30
    Once again convinced dullness immediacy of the Americans. Well, it so happened that since the days of the USSR, all electronics initially went to the defense industry. You know the result yourself. I see no reason to do the same with the navigation system. I am very glad that the Russian system applied the American one. It is attached. A system in itself without sales of navigators and maps to them is nothing, right? from and should promote the Russian, and let the Americans shut up.
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    4 October 2015 23: 16
    Quote: professor
    Left and right portray not smart fab. Not?

    Yes. But you should be able to give a link to the video with a stone core, and you just limited to the ammunition from the times of World War II, which were probably delivered to the Syrians some 2-20 years ago and have since been gathering dust in their warehouses. have been applied. one hundred%. By the way, do you personally have information about exactly what ammunition was used by Russian aviation in the videos under discussion?
    Quote: professor
    I showed the video. I can still show, and the opponent is only blah blah blah. Engineer damn it.

    Yes Yes. Where is the engineer against the video? You know, I can also plug any engineer into a belt. Easy. Video is our fso.
    Quote: professor
    All 3 terrorist organizations have the same goals.

    I’m talking about ways, and you tell me about ... goals.))) I thought you were a serious person.
    Quote: professor
    Hamas digs not only tunnels for kotraband, but also bunkers and command posts. Hezbollah too. I can show a photo.

    It is possible that it is digging some kind of cover, but ISIS positions are subjected to bomb attacks (serious strikes, including with the use of high-precision artillery and much more advanced sighting systems than those of the Syrian Air Force) for only three days and before that they had no reason to camouflage or cover up these shelters, command posts, warehouses, etc. civilian objects. It was enough just to bury well, counting on the use of conventional FAB - where the wind will take. Despite the fact that ISIS is conducting direct b / actions against the regular army of Syria using the tactics of regular units in fact. Various "Hamases" - have serious experience in using guided munitions by the enemy and are, in fact, waging a guerrilla war. Want to see the difference?
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      5 October 2015 07: 27
      Quote: Bograntz
      Yes.

      Now we know that in Syria your Air Force uses ammunition that has nothing to do with Glonass. What are we talking about.

      Quote: Bograntz
      By the way, do you personally have information about exactly what ammunition was used by Russian aviation in the videos under discussion?

      I have a video from 2.10.2015, which is not a smart bomb. Perhaps the video in Hollywood was concocted 2 years ago and just now released. lol

      Quote: Bograntz
      Yes Yes. Where is the engineer against the video? You know, I can also plug any engineer into a belt. Easy. Video is our fso.

      Video, and numerous are material evidence, and you have all the words and words.

      Quote: Bograntz
      I’m talking about ways, and you tell me about ... goals.))) I thought you were a serious person.

      And I'm about ways and you do not think. You do not do it very well. Lay out photos of Hezbollah and Hamas bunkers or limit ourselves to how you, in words?

      Quote: Bograntz
      But ISIS positions are bombed (serious strikes, including using high-precision b / p and much more advanced sighting systems than those available to the Syrian air force) for only three days and they had no reason before to mask or cover these shelters, KP, warehouses, etc. civilian facilities.

      Insanity grew stronger. The bourgeoisie made 7200 sorties against Isil long before Russia lit up with its FAB. Guess three times what bombs bombed them? But only now, after twenty (twenty) bombings, Isil realized that he needed to mask his objects.
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      5 October 2015 07: 27
      Quote: Bograntz
      Despite the fact that ISIS conducts direct b / actions against the regular army of Syria using the tactics of regular units in fact.

      Yah? Who told you such nonsense? Isil is an irregular terrorist fragmented formation without a single command (what is the name of their commander in chief?). They use tactics of raids using mainly tenders with DShK. Well, direct tactics of regular units. laughing

      Quote: Bograntz
      Various "Hamases" - have serious experience in using guided munitions by the enemy and are, in fact, waging a guerrilla war.

      I doubt that over the past few years there have been 7200 sorties in Hamas, but against Ishil. Moreover, more than one high-precision munition was used for each sortie. Do not want to see the difference?



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