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What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...

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Secretary of Defense Michael Fallon (quote "Voice of America"):
Only 5% of Russian hits aviation in Syria falls on the positions of the "Islamic State". The vast majority of airstrikes came from rebel forces, including the Syrian Free Army. Civilians became victims of the bombing. According to our data, they (VKS of the Russian Federation) drop unguided shells on residential areas where civilians are dying, and on areas controlled by the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting against Assad. He (Vladimir Putin) supports Assad, bringing new suffering.





President Barack Obama (NYT):
Russia was forced to intervene in the Syrian conflict because of the weakness of Assad. His (Vladimir Putin) client began to take positions, and just supply him weapons and money is now not enough. In the end, the Assad regime will fall. We are not ready to join the Russian military campaign, if the goal is to destroy all those who disagree with Assad. Syria’s problem is Assad and its cruelty to the Syrian people. It must stop.


Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk:
Russian troops in Syria are the destruction of world security.


Reuters Referring to the Turkish MFA:
Turkey and its allies on the US-led coalition against ISIS (USA, UK, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia and Qatar) called on Moscow to stop inflicting air strikes on the Syrian opposition.


German channel ARD (video on the YouTube channel "Voice of Germany"):


«Radio Svoboda» in the article “Approaching trouble”:
Militants "Vilayata al-Kakun", acting in the North Caucasus wing of ISIS (banned in Russia), just called on all Muslims to join them and fight in Russia itself, and not to go to Syria and the Middle East to join the ranks of ISIL and fight against the Russian army there. (...) The Kremlin, which unequivocally took the side of the Alawite regime of Bashar Assad in the Syrian war (behind which is Shiite Iran), and so far along with ISIS Islamists are actively destroying all other opponents of official Damascus, Sunni troops (...) instantly turned a huge number of Muslims against themselves other branches of Islam around the world, as well as at home.


And at the same time, “democratic” forces are fighting terrorism, of course, incomparably more effective than Russia, which is confirmed by bare facts:

American planes bombed the Doctors Without Borders organization in Kunduz, Afghanistan. 16 dead, 17 reported missing.
130 people died in Yemen as a result of an airstrike of the Saudi coalition on the wedding procession.

American drone before the start of the Russian operation in Syria, hit the "positions of ISIS", destroying two excavators.

As a result of the long-term American operation in Afghanistan, the area of ​​opium poppy fields increased by 25 times, and in addition to Al-Qaida with its brainchild Taliban, the so-called Islamic State also appeared in the country.

As the saying goes: what! ate, quilted jackets! .. Wedding, heroin, excavators ... That's how you need to fight international terrorism! .. Not that ...

In connection with the focus of coverage by the Western press and its internal Russian information followers on the situation with the counter-terrorist operation of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, it seems on what information field the Red Army would have had to act during the Great Patriotic War if the modern “democratic” media worked with them would be in those years. Of course, in 40's, there was enough of its “reliable” sources with analytics of a “friendly” focus, but everything seems to be going (or has already arrived) to the fact that even the notorious Goebbels propaganda can look like a naive childish prattle in comparison with what capable of a modern conscience-free press.

So, a selection of hypothetical materials of the sincere democratic media (modern), if such (media) worked more than 70 years ago.

Newspaper "Cry of Democracy" (22 June 1941 of the year):

Stalin's bloody regime dragged the German army into its territory, firing its cities with German ammunition, provoking refugee flows and anxiety about a democratic Europe. Unable to resist the insidious Stalinist provocative plan, a coalition led by moderate politician Adolf Hitler crossed the Soviet frontier and, by inertia, moves inland, fixing how wild Russians bomb themselves.

What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...


TV channel Fake TV (September 1941 of the year):

Millions of Soviet citizens were forcibly driven to Stalin's secret order No. XXUMX in Leningrad. The blockade started, provoked by Moscow, which always felt the need to compete with the city on the Neva. The valiant German army, with the support of coalition representatives from Spain and Finland, is forced to block Leningrad, so that the NKVD officers will not drive even more Russians there.

Russian service "BBC":

The world community strongly condemns the shelling by the Red Army units of cities and towns under the control of German troops, who sow freedom and democracy in them. This leads to civilian casualties. Only 5% of the strikes of Stalin’s soldiers are directed at Wehrmacht troops, the rest mow down the ranks of the opposition and local police. As a result of one of these attacks, groups of moderate opposition, led by the dictatorial regime fighter Stepan Bandera, suffered. Washington is demanding that the Kremlin stop the bloody operation, which could lead to serious consequences, including economic sanctions against Moscow.

Polish magazine "Hit or miss" (1944):

Russian barbarians rush into Polish cities and free them without the consent of the German administration. Chaos, destruction, the blood of the murdered Polish babies. The Polish gauleiter urges the Soviets to stop the aggression and to withdraw the guns with a caliber larger and smaller than 100 mm from the contact line. If the green men do not leave the territory of an independent state, then this may affect bilateral relations, and Stalin will see how his planes will fall over Europe.

Human rights radio station "Moscow's Igo":

Stalin did not stop his army on the borders of the USSR, but gave the order to invade Europe liberated by Adolf Hitler. Journalist Lucy Yabtseva, who works at the scene, reports that literally just before her eyes three drunk Red Army men were raped by two million German women, and this is only in the first East Prussian village. It is terrible to think what will happen next. Lucy, you have the floor. Lucy? .. Lucy ?! Lyusayaya? !!! But she was proud of her Aryan appearance ...

Ukrainian cable channel "Groschy is mute":

The troops of the western coalition open a second front in Normandy. Isolated Stalin, in a telephone conversation with the American President and the British Prime Minister, acknowledged that if it were not for the timely assistance of the allies (just in time - June 1944), not the general frost, not Russian mud and not withering economic sanctions, top secretly imposed by Washington and London respect of Adolf Hitler and other high-ranking officials of the Reich, the Soviet Union would be defeated. As a result, Stalin was humiliated, and brave American soldiers won World War II. The only assistants of the American troops in achieving victory can be safely considered the Ukrainians of the Ukrainian fronts. Specialists of the Russian Aggression Foundation: from Berlin to Aleppo are studying the contribution to the victory of the Belarusians of the Belarusian fronts and the Baltic fronts of the Baltic fronts.

The irony, of course, is bitter ... But isn't it possible that we have to deal with such publications literally every day. Ladies and gentlemen from the neoliberal press, well, how much can you make a mockery of yourself?
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 5 October 2015 05: 54 New
    46
    Civilians became victims of the bombing. Judging by our data, they (Russian Aerospace Forces) drop unguided shells on residential areas where civilians are dying, and on areas controlled by the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting against Assad. He (Vladimir Putin) supports Assad, bringing new suffering.


    Such stamped blanks are thrown even before hehe crashes of our aircraft.

    Yeah ... information war strikes no worse than war on the battlefield.

    However, the more effective the result of the actions of our military aviation, the stronger will grow the shaft of such stampings.

    Here the main thing KREMLYU does not succumb to pressure from outside .... but it will be frantic.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 5 October 2015 07: 19 New
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      The lies of the press will no longer be perceived. The hangover of the western population will be very bitter. Arab immigrants will help.
      1. perm23
        perm23 5 October 2015 07: 23 New
        10
        And they drink and drink all the time, so as not to get sick from a hangover.
        1. dokusib
          dokusib 5 October 2015 08: 25 New
          +5
          Well, Oktoberfest.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 5 October 2015 10: 49 New
          +6
          Quote: perm23
          And they drink and drink all the time, so as not to get sick from a hangover.

          What kind of liver can stand such a binge?! ??? 500 years at the mention of Russia-cut in the throat and carry drunken nonsense ....

          Yes, and more about alcohol habits. We have the last drunk in bulk even with toffee or caramel - but it sniffs. And with a snack - why not drink ... Western tradition - a bottle, a glass, a point. It can be seen that without a snack horseradish bitter ...
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 6 October 2015 02: 04 New
            0
            At the end of the German video, their muzzles are somehow rusty, not broken ... They completely lost their fear. negative
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 6 October 2015 10: 15 New
              0
              Russia was forced to intervene in the Syrian conflict due to Assad's weakness. His (Vladimir Putin) client began to lose ground, and simply supplying him with weapons and money is no longer enough.

              Almost word for word from the last interview with Strelkov.
      2. Temples
        Temples 5 October 2015 08: 19 New
        +4
        There may not be a hangover. Many are drunk consciously. And a hangover is treated with the same drink. This is more about an epidemic. But the epidemic must be fought, somo will not resolve itself. Although many in Europe dissolve in full growth wassat
      3. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 5 October 2015 13: 52 New
        +8
        oleg-gr
        The lies of the press will no longer be perceived. The hangover of the western population will be very bitter.

        "Клиент ВВП" только при внешней поддержке держится уже более 4-х лет при сумашедшем давлении террористических сил под Крышей Катара, Саудовской Аравии, Иордании, США и их союзников!
        And how long did the US CLIENT hold out? IRAQ AFGHAN and so on ... Power backed by the United States ... GOVERNMENT remains only in Baghdad KABUL ...
        The USA has inflicted over 4 (!!!) air strikes in 50 years! So what??? As a result, 000 excavators were destroyed .. hospital ... wedding guests ...
        ВКС РФ нанесли за неделю меньше 100 авиаударов - В РЕЗУЛЬТАТЕ значительно подорвано МТС игиловцев...уничтожены до десяти КП и ПУ... десятки единиц б\т... лагеря подготовки террористов... началась эвакуация... почти 4 000 (!!!) боевых штыков "сделали ноги" или сдались... а сколько бедолаг стоит перед очами Св. Петра на сортировочном участке пред вратами рая на небесах...
        All this can be distorted! To the contrary! But in Kiev they issued a bombed hospital by US aviation for the consequences of strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces! And how long has this info held the minds of the people? No! So all the fake information of the Western media will be exposed and dumped in the ballot box. In the era of the INTERNET, SATELLITE TV, it is already very difficult to conceal something from the minds of consumers of information ...
        Yes! It will be hard for us at the initial stage to wash ourselves off from the spilled mud tubs ... But nothing! Wash out! We’ll only get stronger!
        1. andrew42
          andrew42 6 October 2015 12: 43 New
          +2
          We assume that this is a MEDICAL DIRT. When washing, the skin is perfectly cleansed - from the remnants of the soil and tolerance. Increases immunity to degeneration and other degenerative disorders of the body.
      4. temirtau72
        temirtau72 7 October 2015 22: 45 New
        0
        You don’t have to go far - they are sobering awkwardly. But nobody also believes in propaganda. And they pretend that they do not believe .... These are the oranges)))
    2. perm23
      perm23 5 October 2015 07: 23 New
      +5
      Goebbels direct followers and miscarriages. The exact same propaganda.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 5 October 2015 07: 34 New
        16
        Here is also a student, not Goebbels, but a Bad Boy:
        "Как я могу относиться к тому, что бомбят мирное население - конечно резко отрицательно. Насколько мне известно, ИГИЛ это все-таки государство и в любом государстве есть мирное население и "Как я могу относиться к тому, что бомбят мирное население - конечно резко отрицательно. Насколько мне известно, ИГИЛ это все-таки государство и в любом государстве есть мирное население и как отличить мирное население ИГИЛ от не мирного я не знаю, поэтому Россия не должна туда лезть. Гибнут люди с оружием в руках противостоящие тираническому режиму Ассада и это я считаю крайне отвратительно. Мы должны полностью доверять США и странам западной коалиции, которые знают что делать в такой ситуации." (с) Макаревич
        how to distinguish ISIS civilians from non-civilians I don’t know

        therefore, Russia should not go there
        -He does not know, and therefore Russia should not climb ...
        source: live echo.
    3. Nishtiag
      Nishtiag 5 October 2015 09: 24 New
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      There must be some methods of influencing the press. They should have been developed over the past 100 years. Not the closure of the objectionable (although, in my opinion, it would probably be better, because such pedagogical sources of civilization are not needed), but judicial or, perhaps, professional journalistic ... For example, you give false information that is refuted by facts, and then not Sorry. One, two, three, five, ten times. Fine, bigger fine, temporary ban on work, change of leadership, nationalization with the sale of assets under the hammer.

      It seems like you can’t do your job efficiently - so you don’t have to do this work. If, for example, a person who works in the industry mows, he will be fined and then fired. And if the company, which, for example, delivers cheese to the shelves, cogs, and the cheese is infected with an atypical pneumoebola with signs of syphilis, then this plant will simply be shut down immediately. For you cannot poison people. In the meantime, not a single thinker from ancient times could unequivocally answer what is worse for a person: poisoned food or poisoned information (faith in a distorted truth).
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 5 October 2015 10: 15 New
      +4
      Who in Syria the enemy determines the legitimate Syrian power. Well, if the West can do nothing else but create an online show of Russian military assistance, then let Poroshenko learn this. Nowhere is funnier laughing There was doubt that in the West politicians are not demented, but only play along to please an overseas host. Now everything is clearing up.
    5. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 5 October 2015 11: 02 New
      +7
      I believe in the next world ... with the journalist who vyselevat such articles will be in demand no less than with thugs and infanticide. Their sin is in a lie ... and it is no less terrible
      1. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 5 October 2015 16: 15 New
        +1
        Or maybe it’s better to attach a wall to this wall? Or they will have to wait a long time for that world. We are not 37 years old ...
    6. Will
      Will 5 October 2015 11: 03 New
      +1
      The main thing is that internal pressure does not put pressure on Putin where, for worse and more.
    7. _my opinion
      _my opinion 5 October 2015 12: 09 New
      +2
      мне вспомнились бомбардировки натой Сербии...когда их авиаудары приводили к множественной гибели мирного населения западная пресса вмиг заголосила о "сопутствующих потерях"...тфу на тех и на других (в смысле на нато и на западную прессу)...
      1. jjj
        jjj 5 October 2015 12: 31 New
        +1
        По поводу госпиталя "Врачей без границ" появилась информация, что он был базой талибов. А сама так называемая врачебная НКО оправдывается, что на момент бомбежки талибы покинули территорию. И посмотрите на деятельность "Врачей" на Донбассе - поймали на хранении огромного количества наркотиков
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 7 October 2015 18: 46 New
          0
          По поводу госпиталя "Врачей без границ" появилась информация, что он был базой талибов.,,
          and it doesn’t seem to you that this is another stuffing. the cunduz was under the authority of the government, and then it became a base in two days, it just seems that now the Americans want to pay off, so they launched the duck.
    8. Yars
      Yars 5 October 2015 23: 15 New
      +4
      Quote: The same Lech
      Civilians became victims of the bombing. Judging by our data, they (Russian Aerospace Forces) drop unguided shells on residential areas where civilians are dying, and on areas controlled by the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting against Assad. He (Vladimir Putin) supports Assad, bringing new suffering.


      Such stamped blanks are thrown even before hehe crashes of our aircraft.

      Yeah ... information war strikes no worse than war on the battlefield.

      However, the more effective the result of the actions of our military aviation, the stronger will grow the shaft of such stampings.

      Here the main thing KREMLYU does not succumb to pressure from outside .... but it will be frantic.


      сегодня ехал в машине и слушал немецкое радио, сегодня они брали и переводили интервью некого Антона Чадский, восхваляли его как героя который создал "ватника" тем самым как нельзя лучше описал образ русских..... такой мерзости давно не слышал, после прослушанного появилось огромное желание плюнуть в лицо редакции радио ....
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 October 2015 06: 12 New
    +7
    Well came the mericatos and Co., on Faberge! laughing
    Yes, they came so that they howl in chorus, like jackals on ice !!!
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 5 October 2015 06: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: aszzz888
      like jackals on ice!

      They remind me of cats that have stepped on the tail.
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 5 October 2015 07: 01 New
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        I already somehow gave a link to this short story, but in this context it’s not a sin to bring it again:
        http://alternate-politics.info/content/strashnyi_son_sovremennogo_istorika
        Historian Sergei Mironenko felt a kick in the ass and collapsed on the frozen bottom of the trench. Still not believing what was happening, he got up and looked up. On the edge of the trench, the soldiers of the Red Army stood in a semicircle.
        - This is the last? - clarified one of the military, apparently the commander.
        “That's right, comrade political instructor!” - the soldier reported, whose kick sent the director of the State Archive to the trench.
        - Excuse me, what's going on? The historian muttered.
        “How is it going?” - grinned the political instructor. - The establishment of historical justice. Now you, Mironenko, will save Moscow from the Nazi invaders.
        Politruk pointed to a field on which several dozen German tanks froze in anticipation. Tankers climbed onto the towers and, shivering from the cold, watched with interest what was happening at Russian positions.
        - I? Why me? - Mironenko asked in shock. “What do I have to do with this?”
        “The most direct,” answered the political instructor. - All of you here have the most direct relation to this!
        The commander pointed Mironenko to the trench and the historian saw that it was full of respected people: there were already academician Pivovarov and his nephew-journalist, Svanidze was sitting by the machine gun with bulging eyes, next to him was the main de-regulator Fedotov, who was trembling from the cold, or from horror , further there were still familiar faces, but the frightened archivist completely forgot their names.
        “What are we all doing here?” - asked Mironenko. - This is not our era!
        The soldiers laughed together. Not only Russians but also Germans laughed, and even the recently killed German tanker, trying to maintain decency and pretending not to hear anything, nevertheless, shuddered with laughter.

        Read on yourself.
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 5 October 2015 14: 18 New
          0
          Quote: inkass_98
          I already somehow gave a link to this short story,

          I read something like that, but Rezun was in the main role there wassat
  3. brasist
    brasist 5 October 2015 06: 12 New
    15
    Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk:
    Russian troops in Syria are the destruction of world security.


    Egghead and then revealed his yap ...
    1. Minstrel
      Minstrel 5 October 2015 07: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: brasist
      Egghead and then revealed his yap ...


      И да, по примеру своих западных "друзей", переставал бы он( и его соратники по "свидомой" власти) называть пророссийскими боевиками Донбасскую умеренную оппозицию. wink
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    3. I am human
      I am human 7 October 2015 22: 52 New
      -1
      The rabbit by the ears will soon be caught and washed into the toilet ...
  4. Throw
    Throw 5 October 2015 06: 14 New
    -4
    How much you can laugh stiffly at ridicule, dropping down to their paid baseboard ...
    Not tired?
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 October 2015 06: 33 New
      +5
      He smiled, an interesting perspective, sometimes in the top ten hit ..
      1. Born in the USSR
        Born in the USSR 5 October 2015 07: 17 New
        +8
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        places in the top ten hit ..

        Only one mistake - the Polish magazine should be called nevertheless as closely as possible in Polish and closer to the essence i.e. not “Pan or gone”, but "Жидко Какич"
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 5 October 2015 08: 07 New
          +3
          Liquid-kakich is rather closer to the Serbian-Croatian laughing
        2. sunzhenets
          sunzhenets 5 October 2015 09: 31 New
          +5
          And what about the Polish journalists-Bzdyszek Vsecpa-nsky and Dupka Rvanevsk?
  5. mig31
    mig31 5 October 2015 06: 15 New
    11
    And the liberals should be fucked, if only they would pay, but they thought of how to cover the events for them, in a word - neither fish, nor meat - a talking head without brains .....
  6. Name
    Name 5 October 2015 06: 15 New
    +6
    Интересненькие параллели, вот только сколько-бы "жили" те либералы во время ВОВ; не на свободе, а РЕАЛЬНО ЖИЛИ ОПОСЛЯ....Думаю что очень недолго.
  7. Koronik
    Koronik 5 October 2015 06: 16 New
    +9
    Bravo to the author !!! I haven’t had such fun in the morning!
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 October 2015 08: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: Koronik
      Bravo to the author !!! I haven’t had such fun in the morning!

      Yeah, at first after serious articles I almost believed.
  8. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 5 October 2015 06: 20 New
    +3
    Есть такой фильм "Люди и uроды" Кто смотрел фильм тот разберётся кто тут люди, а кто те другие, так и в потоке лжи изливаемой "свободной прессой" любой нормальный здравомыслящий человек разберётся сразу. Вопрос в том, много ли в мире людей и "остальных", а "свободная" евро-сша-пресса в основном своими материалами способствует умножению поголовья "остальных" и пишет для них, потому что им люди не нужны - они задают много неудобных вопросов.
  9. venaya
    venaya 5 October 2015 06: 21 New
    +5
    Ladies and gentlemen from the neoliberal press, well, how much can you make a laughing stock of yourself?

    They are a laughing stock. This is their game and often resultant, no matter how we deny it. Drop by drop, drip on the brain, after which a person gets tired, loses the orientation of reality. Methot well worked out, and for us, too, only we rarely notice this ourselves, or more often do not want to notice.
  10. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 October 2015 06: 28 New
    +3
    You need to finish the operation as soon as possible.
    And for this you need to constantly detect and hit new targets.
    The faster we deprive the IS of bases and replenishment, the faster we will finish the operation in Syria.
    Well, Iraq and other countries are next in line.
  11. Oman 47
    Oman 47 5 October 2015 06: 28 New
    +4
    Так они (ОНО) и "выигрывают" войны, - на полях интернета и экранах зомбоящиков...
    EXCAVATOR KILLERS.
    Morons, b ..! fellow
    1. gintnerserg62
      gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 25 New
      0
      on behalf of the trade union of excavators, I am protesting the destruction of peaceful excavators by American aviation .. angry
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 5 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +7
    The irony, of course, is bitter .......Горькая ,но ежели покопаться, в мировой прессе, периода второй мировой войны..найдем статейки о "неадекватных" действиях советских войск в отношении нацистов..Статья бьёт, в глаз, не в бровь..минусы,"тихушные", автор получил...
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +7
    The irony, of course, is bitter ...

    Может быть и горькая, но абсолютно уместная в данной ситуации. Запад и их прихлебаи со своими СМИ уже изошли на говно за последние несколько дней. Значит действительно Россия наносит ощутимый урон этому "осиному гнезду" построенному с помощью западной "демократии".
  14. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 06: 37 New
    10
    About Igo of Moscow is very accurate. On the first day of the start of our aviation attacks on ISIS, he wandered there (in the ear of matzah). How many cries, and one is more tolerant than the other!
  15. Vityok
    Vityok 5 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +5
    Что бы писала современная зарубежная и российская либеральная пресса, если бы освещала Великую Отечественную войну... Западная зарубежная пресса также бы визжала, а российской либеральной прессе - сразу бы "мазали лоб зелёнкой и пустили бы в расход! request
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 October 2015 08: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Vitek
      российской либеральной прессе - сразу бы "мазали лоб зелёнкой и пустили бы в расход!

      And do not depart from good traditions.
  16. Glot
    Glot 5 October 2015 06: 42 New
    +4
    It is clear to us that all such screams are nonsense. But this is not nonsense for our ears, but for the Western as a whole. And western ears believe him, alas.
    We need the same informational counter-actions.
  17. asar
    asar 5 October 2015 07: 14 New
    +2
    Welcome all!
    Стоило ожидать подобного! Ничуть не удивлен даже! А Запад... Ну, у кого есть мозги, тот их "включит"! А коль нет, то на нет и суда нет!
  18. 1536
    1536 5 October 2015 07: 23 New
    +5
    Во время ВОВ провокаторов ловили и расстреливали по законам военного времени. А сейчас мир. Но честно говоря, "гейзеры" достали.
  19. Minstrel
    Minstrel 5 October 2015 07: 33 New
    +1
    Для названия польского издания больше бы подошло - "Вжудак"( Wrzódak), сленговое слово, являющееся составным из: "вжуд"(язва - wrzód) и "родак"(соотечественник - rodak), ибо так сами поляки стали именовать друг друга в последнее время, в связи с "теплыми и дружескими" отношениями сложившимися между людьми в этой стране.
  20. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 5 October 2015 07: 38 New
    +2
    Krasyuki ... not in the eyebrow, but in the eye ... and so it would be, with these dzermokratv will become, at the count of Paskud, at the count of ...... am
  21. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 5 October 2015 07: 59 New
    +7
    So nothing funny, the Western press wrote. About the campaign to the East and the liberation of the peoples of the USSR from Bolshevism. Many believed ...
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 5 October 2015 08: 44 New
      -7
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      So nothing funny, the Western press wrote. About the campaign to the East and the liberation of the peoples of the USSR from Bolshevism. Many believed ...

      and what, in fact, is wrong? This was a campaign to the East with the goal of liberation from Bolshevism. In this case, the Western press did not lie.
      1. 0255
        0255 5 October 2015 11: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        So nothing funny, the Western press wrote. About the campaign to the East and the liberation of the peoples of the USSR from Bolshevism. Many believed ...

        and what, in fact, is wrong? This was a campaign to the East with the goal of liberation from Bolshevism. In this case, the Western press did not lie.

        Очередные бредни на тему "Гитлер освободитель"? Думаете что в случае победы Германии мы бы сейчас жили припеваючи, попивая баварское пиво? Вы случайно не из этих "деятелей"? Зигануть не забыли?
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 5 October 2015 12: 06 New
          -6
          Quote: 0255
          Очередные бредни на тему "Гитлер освободитель"? Думаете что в случае победы Германии мы бы сейчас жили припеваючи, попивая баварское пиво? Вы случайно не из этих "деятелей"? Зигануть не забыли?

          stop stupid. What does the ridge and beer have to do with it? The propaganda of the Third Reich presented the war in the east as a liberation campaign. Goebbels wrote in 1943 that Germany pursues not selfish goals, but the only liberation from Bolshevism. My remark was related to the fact that Western propaganda, in particular, Nazi propaganda, did not cheat, speaking of the de-Bolshevikization of the USSR as its goal No. 1 in the east. Why is this out?
          Quote: 0255
          "Гитлер освободитель"?
          1. 0255
            0255 5 October 2015 12: 45 New
            -2
            Quote: Das Boot
            stop stupid. What does the ridge and beer have to do with it? The propaganda of the Third Reich presented the war in the east as a liberation campaign. Goebbels wrote in 1943 that Germany pursues not selfish goals, but the only liberation from Bolshevism. My remark was related to the fact that Western propaganda, in particular, Nazi propaganda, did not cheat, speaking of the de-Bolshevikization of the USSR as its goal No. 1 in the east.

            Прям-таки не кривила душой? Гитлер хотел русских уничтожить, оставить только 25% в качестве рабов, "дебольшевизация" СССР была только типа благородным предлогом, а не целью №1. Думаете если бы в России/СССР была другая власть, Гитлер не нападал бы?
            And why did Hitler annex Austria, part of Czechoslovakia? Poland in 1939 and France in 1940. Did Hitler also save from Bolshevism? The Germans also bombed the British for protection against the Bolsheviks?
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 5 October 2015 13: 13 New
              -2
              спор беспредметный. "Брито-стрижено".
              Quote: 0255
              and France in 1940, Hitler also saved from Bolshevism?
              And France, what does Ost have to do with the general plan?
            2. andrew42
              andrew42 6 October 2015 12: 47 New
              0
              I missed it. I wanted to beat off the minus, but poked it on the minus. I apologize.
        2. THE_SEAL
          THE_SEAL 6 October 2015 10: 54 New
          0
          What kind of artiodactyls in the photo?
        3. ioann1
          ioann1 6 October 2015 15: 44 New
          -1
          Russian Natsik from their own ignorance of history hung the Imperial flag of Russia next to the Nazi. Moreover, this is quite common in Russia, unfortunately.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 5 October 2015 11: 44 New
        +4
        Quote: Das Boot
        It was a campaign to the East with the goal of liberation from Bolshevism.

        Exemptions whom, Please clarify?
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 5 October 2015 13: 31 New
          -4
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Release of whom, please specify?

          for clarifications - to the materials of Nuremberg and Goebbels' memoirs.
      3. Fight cat
        Fight cat 6 October 2015 13: 27 New
        +3
        a young man ziggling at the Liberation Reich, you didn’t beguile anything, you know that you wouldn’t be there if the boot of the Russian soldier had not trampled the predatory snout of the mongrel of the German Reich! Those same soldiers in quilted jackets of protective color who brought peace to Europe for decades!
  22. 2224460
    2224460 5 October 2015 08: 21 New
    +9
    What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...
    On the Internet, I found this option:
    1. 0255
      0255 5 October 2015 11: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: 2224460
      On the Internet, I found this option:

      Credited option good Although our liberals have long said this negative
  23. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 5 October 2015 09: 15 New
    +9
    I recall the 90s. The first and second Chechen wars. The liberal press is like a knife in the back with its articles. Information companies about the disproportionate use of force. Committees of soldiers' mothers bought and raised on Western grants. Hatred among the military for all journalists, special powers given by the state, to some obscure obscure personalities called themselves human rights defenders. It must not be allowed that this would happen again, whenever.
  24. akudr48
    akudr48 5 October 2015 09: 32 New
    +4
    The irony, of course, is bitter ... But is it not with such publications that we have to deal with literally every day.

    Not only irony, but also an integral part of the information war, in which, along with the Western media, Russian liberal publications are actively participating.

    For example, ECHO OF MOSCOW, with the head Veny Diktov, a famous infocrot who attended the UN session, together with his girlfriend Lesya, as Venya expertly told.

    Venya and Lesya were there, they saw Obama himself, and decided that the UN was not suited and should be reformed, that is, rebuilt as the USSR was rebuilt so that everything was liberal, free, and theirs.

    Reformat the UN, and that’s all, because they know better what the UN should be, and the veto is removed as a totalitarian relic.

    And then who bombed whom and with what results, Lesya, who saw Obama, will tell you this. And Venya will bring expertise.

    There is such a small branch of the State Department in the editorial office of the ECA on the Arbat in Russia ...
    1. cuzmin.mihail2013
      cuzmin.mihail2013 5 October 2015 13: 23 New
      11
      He has it for a long time !!!
  25. Papin
    Papin 5 October 2015 10: 14 New
    +2
    The author is well done, it never crossed my mind!
    A good argument in a conversation with a liberal!
  26. grandson of the hero
    grandson of the hero 5 October 2015 10: 30 New
    +4
    And, in my humble opinion, we turned into liberals ...
    We make a fuss with this fifth column, with pests, with thieves, with enemy uplifts. We ourselves are afraid to admit that, God forbid, they would have existed before the Second World War, they would not have defeated us. We are afraid to recognize the need to adopt today and now tough methods of dealing with the enemies of the state. And do not look back at the pederast neighbors. You have your own weddings there. And we have our country.
    How a thousand times Joseph Vissarionovich was right. And if we think that the situation today is not that ... Yes, not that. She's even worse!
  27. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 5 October 2015 10: 56 New
    +2
    And even to plant the fifth column is not necessary, why feed them. A month to sell property and arrange documents and cases, a suitcase, train station, Brussels (any other democracy stronghold to choose from). And let their older comrades feed their whole lives, for the appetite of the liberals is good;)
  28. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 5 October 2015 10: 57 New
    -1
    Irony? No, this is not irony! This is propaganda!
    It existed now and then. I’m not at all sure that it is worth confusing the local operation in Syria and the Great Patriotic War. This garbage is not funny.
    Then the Power and the great people fought, then there was really a tragedy of peoples and states.
    Now this is also true in some places, but plus everything else, and the solution of problems is raising oil and gas prices.
    Blocking oil and gas supplies at dumping prices.
    The bear was driven into a corner and he began to bite. Will it be possible to solve the problem a barrel of oil again for 100 bucks.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 5 October 2015 11: 07 New
      -4
      Цитата: Dan Slav
      I’m not at all sure that it is worth confusing the local operation in Syria and the Great Patriotic War. This garbage is not funny.

      I’m also not sure that I understood the author’s mocking allusion, which the majority here enthralled. One should be careful with the choice of analogies. Not witty.
    2. gintnerserg62
      gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 44 New
      +1
      to a single Soviet man in 41 and to a single Syrian guy in 2015, do not care if the great war is in your opinion or local. He personally dies. And for the Syrians who have been fighting for their state for four years .. They are fighting for whether Syria will remain on the world map, perhaps this is THEIR Great Patriotic .. And you are a chauvinist comrade and scum ..
  29. silver_roman
    silver_roman 5 October 2015 11: 41 New
    +1
    Ladies and gentlemen from the neoliberal press, well, how much can you make a laughing stock of yourself?

    it will last exactly until someone throws a couple of Molotov cocktails at their offices. Or as it was with the rain: more loyal and soft, but quite effective.
  30. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 5 October 2015 11: 45 New
    +3
    Forgive the ducks - Western trash - the liberal press. What to take from them?
    Again, it will be necessary for the collar and nose in what is piled up.
    And not just by the nose, but by calling for a judicial answer for the impudent, premeditated lie.
  31. Belousov
    Belousov 5 October 2015 13: 11 New
    +2
    Вот читаешь подобное и поражаешься. Еще больше поражаешься, что 50% финансирования "Эха мацы" поступает от структур ... Газпрома. Вопрос - как же так и нафига?!? Вопрос очень даже не риторический.
  32. Sargaras
    Sargaras 5 October 2015 13: 55 New
    0
    Duc, everyone knows that the Great Patriotic War without the Americans would have won the hell, and Hitler in general Brad Pitt failed.
  33. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 5 October 2015 14: 25 New
    0
    Article ++++ !! Everything is correct and on the shelves!
    Последнее время сталкивался несколько раз с очень взрослыми людьми,которые прямо восторгались"Эхом".Причем--хорошее социалистическое прошлое было и образование.Получается--все готовы за печеньки?
    Quote: Papin
    The author is well done, it never crossed my mind!
    A good argument in a conversation with a liberal!

    Now I will know how best to tell them.
  34. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 5 October 2015 14: 27 New
    +2
    Eh, although there is already neither her nor him, but ... could not resist.
    What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...

    Whatever she writes:
  35. Naval
    Naval 5 October 2015 15: 31 New
    10
    The fifth column of Russia for a bowl of balanda and a warm corner in the crematorium, ready for registration in Majdanek or Treblinka. And this is not the opposition at all, but peasants, dissatisfied with everything and everything, and it is not clear what they are doing here, why not in the country of their dreams?
  36. Stas57
    Stas57 5 October 2015 15: 53 New
    +2
    Russian service "BBC"

    Russian service "BBC" say .....



    The thistle was standing tall.
    In these thickets, through which the dusty road from Tula was now walking, death is waiting for a person at every step. “Minen” (in German), “mines” (in Russian) - I read on old and new tablets stuck in the ground. In the distance, on a hill, under the blue summer [420] sky, one could see the ruins of churches, the remains of houses and lonely chimneys. These stretch of weed for many kilometers almost two years was no man's land. The ruins on the hill were the ruins of Mtsensk. Two old women and four cats - these are all living things that Soviet soldiers found there when the Germans retreated on 20 of July. Before they left, the Nazis blew up or burned everything - churches and buildings, peasant huts and everything else. In the middle of the last century, Lady Macbeth, Leskov and Shostakovich, lived in this city. It somehow did not fit in my head that this drama of passions and blood was unfolding in the city, where now there was the smell of blood spilled for completely different reasons.
    Through the thickets of weeds we approached Mtsensk. No, one small brick building somehow survived. “Food point,” the announcement read. “Here you can get the daily diet: breakfast, lunch, dinner.” Next is another announcement: “The enemy destroyed and robbed this city, stole its inhabitants into captivity. They are calling for revenge. ”
    ,,,,
    Eagle, this not so long ago pleasant, quiet provincial city, still full of memories of Turgenev, was badly damaged. More than half of the houses were destroyed; the ruins were still smoking in some places. [421] The bridges over the Oka were blown up, but a temporary wooden bridge had already been built, and military trucks were going west, and ambulances from Karachev arrived in Oryol, fifty kilometers to the west, where heavy fights. How did Eagle live during the almost two-year German occupation?
    Of the 114 thousand people in the city, only 30 thousand remains now. The occupants killed many residents. Many were hanged in the city square - on the very one where the crew of the Soviet tank that first burst into Orel are now buried, as well as General Gurtiev - the illustrious participant in the Battle of Stalingrad, who was killed that morning when Soviet troops took the city with battle. They said that the Germans killed 12 thousand people and sent twice as many to Germany. Many thousands of Orlovites went to the partisans in the Oryol and Bryansk forests, because here (especially in the Bryansk region) there was an area of ​​active partisan action.


    or is it

    Even more terrible in nature than the numerous “oraduras” and “leaders” in the Kaluga, Oryol and Bryansk regions described in the book of Glukhov were German atrocities in the regions of Osveya and Rossony in northern Belarus in March 1943. It was a partisan region. Although the punitive expedition of the Germans did not succeed in capturing the partisans, the Germans occupied the Oswey area for some time. When the partisans returned to their base after forty days of fighting, they found that the Germans had burned down 158 villages to the ground. All healthy men were driven into slavery, and all women, children and the elderly were killed.
    “When ... the partisans returned ... corpses of people lay everywhere. Only those who survived with the partisans in the forest survived ... They tortured several thousand Soviet citizens ”195.


    Who do you think this writes?
    Alexander Werth British journalist, correspondent for The Sunday Times and the BBC radio station
    1. gintnerserg62
      gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 38 New
      0
      so I’m saying that people were more honest then ... And if Churchill was at the head of Britain today ... he would definitely take the side of Russia in this matter.
  37. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 5 October 2015 18: 30 New
    0
    Thanks to the Author !!!!! sincere statuyushka !!!! smiled at friend!
  38. Gost171
    Gost171 5 October 2015 18: 37 New
    0
    Plus to the author. I would also add that when this trinity raped him ok they smelled bad from the mouth
  39. Escanderm
    Escanderm 5 October 2015 22: 18 New
    +1
    Gentlemen, I understand that it’s not quite on the topic, but so far there is no such topic.
    Here's an interesting video, no one heard anything?
  40. scorpiosys
    scorpiosys 5 October 2015 22: 29 New
    0
    PRESS is a relic of antiquity.
    Как "ПРЕССА" сможет показать ракетный или бомбовый удар в "динамике"??? 15000 страниц газеты в формате 25 кадров в секунду (PAL)? чтобы показать в динамике (быстрым перелистыванием страниц, типа эфект анимации...) 10 минут видеозаписи!!!
    PRESS !!!!
    PICTURE !!!
    Owner of UMOV !!!
    Do not make laugh my old liver. She has long been no laughing matter.
  41. not main
    not main 5 October 2015 22: 37 New
    0
    Quote: mirag2
    Makarevich
    how to distinguish ISIS civilians from non-civilians I don’t know

    therefore, Russia should not go there
    - He does not know, and therefore Russia should not climb ...
    source: live echo.

    The patient has an exacerbation!
    1. gintnerserg62
      gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 33 New
      +1
      something Akhejakova is silent .. It is time for her to apologize to ISIS already ...
  42. RUS69
    RUS69 5 October 2015 23: 22 New
    0
    The world community strongly condemns the shelling by the Red Army units of cities and towns under the control of German troops, who sow freedom and democracy in them. This leads to civilian casualties. Only 5% of the strikes of Stalin’s soldiers are directed at Wehrmacht troops, the rest mow down the ranks of the opposition and local police. As a result of one of these attacks, groups of moderate opposition, led by the dictatorial regime fighter Stepan Bandera, suffered. Washington is demanding that the Kremlin stop the bloody operation, which could lead to serious consequences, including economic sanctions against Moscow.
    Yeah, and would be sent on a hike on a high trip! not that country was to write this now is freedom of speech.
  43. sermak1967
    sermak1967 6 October 2015 11: 58 New
    0
    Judging by the content of the article, the author was unable (at least for an example) to find negative publications of the modern Russian liberal press about the actions of the Russian air forces in Syria.
    1. gintnerserg62
      gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 32 New
      0
      yes it’s full .. and not yet evening .. they write ....
  44. andrew42
    andrew42 6 October 2015 12: 59 New
    +3
    Пока всё идёт как надо. Я лично боялся, что наши займутся реверансами и будут летать бомбить ИГ, пропуская всё то отребье, которое финансируется НАТО и собственно генерирует гражданскую войну, - я имею в виду ССА и прочих "умеренно-неумеренных". Здорово, что начали их прессовать по полной. Кто там будет гоняться за "классическим" ИГ, - это время покажет. В первую очередь должно разогнать те формирования, которые атакуют государственные институты Сирии. Кто не сложил оружие и не пошел на переговоры - сам виноват. Так держать! Асад форэве, вооруженная оппозиция маст дай.
  45. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 6 October 2015 13: 32 New
    0
    Western tongues would shut their tongues lower than their backs. By the way, our liberals also do not interfere with this.
  46. galakt
    galakt 6 October 2015 14: 44 New
    0
    In Syria, Russia protects primarily: international law once, expanding the front with Yusiye along the Bandera Kiev-Syria line is better than waiting for ISIS to approach our borders two, this is very important
    (America is behind a large puddle and it’s on the drum. We, too, were not close to the hostilities, but the bandera was frozen for now), we managed to move the world off the ground and it begins to rotate where we need it. I do not think that those 60 countries that declared yusiei on their side are eager to fight with us. Especially now, when they look and listen about the targeted bombing of terrorist bases in Syria.
  47. Keentistvon
    Keentistvon 6 October 2015 16: 49 New
    -2
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  48. gintnerserg62
    gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 29 New
    +1
    А ведь что то подобное было и в те времена..Помнится что то типа заголовков в немецкой прессе" в то время когда мирные германские бомбардировщики летели по своим делам подлые бельгийские зенитчики коварно отрыли по ним огонь.." где-то так..Так что ничего не ново под луной..
  49. mr.vasilievich
    mr.vasilievich 7 October 2015 06: 09 New
    0
    Пора признать и сказать открытым текстом, кто организатор ИГИЛ, кто организатор майданов и "цветных" революций, кто насаждает фашистскую идеологию в мире.Не надо стесняться, надо назвать организации и фамилии их руководителей, чтобы все знали своих соседей и знакомых.Если МИД вынужден соблюдать "политкорректность", то патриотические организации (не путать с теми, кто прикрывается этим словом) не обязаны соблюдать ее.
  50. Kir1984
    Kir1984 7 October 2015 07: 35 New
    0
    bravo, applaud and applaud hi