What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...

Secretary of Defense Michael Fallon (quote "Voice of America"):
Only 5% of Russian hits aviation in Syria falls on the positions of the "Islamic State". The vast majority of airstrikes came from rebel forces, including the Syrian Free Army. Civilians became victims of the bombing. According to our data, they (VKS of the Russian Federation) drop unguided shells on residential areas where civilians are dying, and on areas controlled by the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting against Assad. He (Vladimir Putin) supports Assad, bringing new suffering.





President Barack Obama (NYT):
Russia was forced to intervene in the Syrian conflict because of the weakness of Assad. His (Vladimir Putin) client began to take positions, and just supply him weapons and money is now not enough. In the end, the Assad regime will fall. We are not ready to join the Russian military campaign, if the goal is to destroy all those who disagree with Assad. Syria’s problem is Assad and its cruelty to the Syrian people. It must stop.


Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk:
Russian troops in Syria are the destruction of world security.


Reuters Referring to the Turkish MFA:
Turkey and its allies on the US-led coalition against ISIS (USA, UK, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia and Qatar) called on Moscow to stop inflicting air strikes on the Syrian opposition.


German channel ARD (video on the YouTube channel "Voice of Germany"):


«Radio Svoboda» in the article “Approaching trouble”:
Militants "Vilayata al-Kakun", acting in the North Caucasus wing of ISIS (banned in Russia), just called on all Muslims to join them and fight in Russia itself, and not to go to Syria and the Middle East to join the ranks of ISIL and fight against the Russian army there. (...) The Kremlin, which unequivocally took the side of the Alawite regime of Bashar Assad in the Syrian war (behind which is Shiite Iran), and so far along with ISIS Islamists are actively destroying all other opponents of official Damascus, Sunni troops (...) instantly turned a huge number of Muslims against themselves other branches of Islam around the world, as well as at home.


And at the same time, “democratic” forces are fighting terrorism, of course, incomparably more effective than Russia, which is confirmed by bare facts:

American planes bombed the Doctors Without Borders organization in Kunduz, Afghanistan. 16 dead, 17 reported missing.
130 people died in Yemen as a result of an airstrike of the Saudi coalition on the wedding procession.

American drone before the start of the Russian operation in Syria, hit the "positions of ISIS", destroying two excavators.

As a result of the long-term American operation in Afghanistan, the area of ​​opium poppy fields increased by 25 times, and in addition to Al-Qaida with its brainchild Taliban, the so-called Islamic State also appeared in the country.

As the saying goes: what! ate, quilted jackets! .. Wedding, heroin, excavators ... That's how you need to fight international terrorism! .. Not that ...

In connection with the focus of coverage by the Western press and its internal Russian information followers on the situation with the counter-terrorist operation of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, it seems on what information field the Red Army would have had to act during the Great Patriotic War if the modern “democratic” media worked with them would be in those years. Of course, in 40's, there was enough of its “reliable” sources with analytics of a “friendly” focus, but everything seems to be going (or has already arrived) to the fact that even the notorious Goebbels propaganda can look like a naive childish prattle in comparison with what capable of a modern conscience-free press.

So, a selection of hypothetical materials of the sincere democratic media (modern), if such (media) worked more than 70 years ago.

Newspaper "Cry of Democracy" (22 June 1941 of the year):

Stalin's bloody regime dragged the German army into its territory, firing its cities with German ammunition, provoking refugee flows and anxiety about a democratic Europe. Unable to resist the insidious Stalinist provocative plan, a coalition led by moderate politician Adolf Hitler crossed the Soviet frontier and, by inertia, moves inland, fixing how wild Russians bomb themselves.

What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...


TV channel Fake TV (September 1941 of the year):

Millions of Soviet citizens were forcibly driven to Stalin's secret order No. XXUMX in Leningrad. The blockade started, provoked by Moscow, which always felt the need to compete with the city on the Neva. The valiant German army, with the support of coalition representatives from Spain and Finland, is forced to block Leningrad, so that the NKVD officers will not drive even more Russians there.

Russian service "BBC":

The world community strongly condemns the shelling by the Red Army units of cities and towns under the control of German troops, who sow freedom and democracy in them. This leads to civilian casualties. Only 5% of the strikes of Stalin’s soldiers are directed at Wehrmacht troops, the rest mow down the ranks of the opposition and local police. As a result of one of these attacks, groups of moderate opposition, led by the dictatorial regime fighter Stepan Bandera, suffered. Washington is demanding that the Kremlin stop the bloody operation, which could lead to serious consequences, including economic sanctions against Moscow.

Polish magazine "Hit or miss" (1944):

Russian barbarians rush into Polish cities and free them without the consent of the German administration. Chaos, destruction, the blood of the murdered Polish babies. The Polish gauleiter urges the Soviets to stop the aggression and to withdraw the guns with a caliber larger and smaller than 100 mm from the contact line. If the green men do not leave the territory of an independent state, then this may affect bilateral relations, and Stalin will see how his planes will fall over Europe.

Human rights radio station "Moscow's Igo":

Stalin did not stop his army on the borders of the USSR, but gave the order to invade Europe liberated by Adolf Hitler. Journalist Lucy Yabtseva, who works at the scene, reports that literally just before her eyes three drunk Red Army men were raped by two million German women, and this is only in the first East Prussian village. It is terrible to think what will happen next. Lucy, you have the floor. Lucy? .. Lucy ?! Lyusayaya? !!! But she was proud of her Aryan appearance ...

Ukrainian cable channel "Groschy is mute":

The troops of the western coalition open a second front in Normandy. Isolated Stalin, in a telephone conversation with the American President and the British Prime Minister, acknowledged that if it were not for the timely assistance of the allies (just in time - June 1944), not the general frost, not Russian mud and not withering economic sanctions, top secretly imposed by Washington and London respect of Adolf Hitler and other high-ranking officials of the Reich, the Soviet Union would be defeated. As a result, Stalin was humiliated, and brave American soldiers won World War II. The only assistants of the American troops in achieving victory can be safely considered the Ukrainians of the Ukrainian fronts. Specialists of the Russian Aggression Foundation: from Berlin to Aleppo are studying the contribution to the victory of the Belarusians of the Belarusian fronts and the Baltic fronts of the Baltic fronts.

The irony, of course, is bitter ... But isn't it possible that we have to deal with such publications literally every day. Ladies and gentlemen from the neoliberal press, well, how much can you make a mockery of yourself?
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  1. Same lech 5 October 2015 05: 54 New
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    Civilians became victims of the bombing. Judging by our data, they (Russian Aerospace Forces) drop unguided shells on residential areas where civilians are dying, and on areas controlled by the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting against Assad. He (Vladimir Putin) supports Assad, bringing new suffering.


    Such stamped blanks are thrown even before hehe crashes of our aircraft.

    Yeah ... information war strikes no worse than war on the battlefield.

    However, the more effective the result of the actions of our military aviation, the stronger will grow the shaft of such stampings.

    Here the main thing KREMLYU does not succumb to pressure from outside .... but it will be frantic.
    1. oleg-gr 5 October 2015 07: 19 New
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      The lies of the press will no longer be perceived. The hangover of the western population will be very bitter. Arab immigrants will help.
      1. perm23 5 October 2015 07: 23 New
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        And they drink and drink all the time, so as not to get sick from a hangover.
        1. dokusib 5 October 2015 08: 25 New
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          Well, Oktoberfest.
        2. Zoldat_A 5 October 2015 10: 49 New
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          Quote: perm23
          And they drink and drink all the time, so as not to get sick from a hangover.

          What kind of liver can stand such a binge?! ??? 500 years at the mention of Russia-cut in the throat and carry drunken nonsense ....

          Yes, and more about alcohol habits. We have the last drunk in bulk even with toffee or caramel - but it sniffs. And with a snack - why not drink ... Western tradition - a bottle, a glass, a point. It can be seen that without a snack horseradish bitter ...
          1. Scraptor 6 October 2015 02: 04 New
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            At the end of the German video, their muzzles are somehow rusty, not broken ... They completely lost their fear. negative
            1. Mahmut 6 October 2015 10: 15 New
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              Russia was forced to intervene in the Syrian conflict due to Assad's weakness. His (Vladimir Putin) client began to lose ground, and simply supplying him with weapons and money is no longer enough.

              Almost word for word from the last interview with Strelkov.
      2. Temples 5 October 2015 08: 19 New
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        There may not be a hangover. Many are drunk consciously. And a hangover is treated with the same drink. This is more about an epidemic. But the epidemic must be fought, somo will not resolve itself. Although many in Europe dissolve in full growth wassat
      3. KazaK Bo 5 October 2015 13: 52 New
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        oleg-gr
        The lies of the press will no longer be perceived. The hangover of the western population will be very bitter.

        The “GDP Client” has only been supported for more than 4 years with external support under the crazy pressure of terrorist forces under the Roof of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the USA and their allies!
        And how long did the US CLIENT hold out? IRAQ AFGHAN and so on ... Power backed by the United States ... GOVERNMENT remains only in Baghdad KABUL ...
        The USA has inflicted over 4 (!!!) air strikes in 50 years! So what??? As a result, 000 excavators were destroyed .. hospital ... wedding guests ...
        The Russian Aerospace Forces inflicted less than 100 airstrikes in a week - as a result, the MTS of the Igilovites were significantly undermined ... up to ten KP and PU were destroyed ... dozens of b / t units ... terrorist training camps ... evacuation began ... almost 4 ( !!!) combat bayonets "made legs" or surrendered ... and how many poor fellows are standing in front of St. Peter's eyes in the sorting area before the gates of heaven in heaven ...
        All this can be distorted! To the contrary! But in Kiev they issued a bombed hospital by US aviation for the consequences of strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces! And how long has this info held the minds of the people? No! So all the fake information of the Western media will be exposed and dumped in the ballot box. In the era of the INTERNET, SATELLITE TV, it is already very difficult to conceal something from the minds of consumers of information ...
        Yes! It will be hard for us at the initial stage to wash ourselves off from the spilled mud tubs ... But nothing! Wash out! We’ll only get stronger!
        1. andrew42 6 October 2015 12: 43 New
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          We assume that this is a MEDICAL DIRT. When washing, the skin is perfectly cleansed - from the remnants of the soil and tolerance. Increases immunity to degeneration and other degenerative disorders of the body.
      4. temirtau72 7 October 2015 22: 45 New
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        You don’t have to go far - they are sobering awkwardly. But nobody also believes in propaganda. And they pretend that they do not believe .... These are the oranges)))
    2. perm23 5 October 2015 07: 23 New
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      Goebbels direct followers and miscarriages. The exact same propaganda.
      1. mirag2 5 October 2015 07: 34 New
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        Here is also a student, not Goebbels, but a Bad Boy:
        "How can I relate to the fact that civilians are being bombed - of course it is sharply negative. As far as I know, ISIS is still a state and there is a civilian population in any state and" How can I relate to the fact that civilians are being bombed negatively. As far as I know, ISIS is still a state and there is a civilian population in any state, and I don’t know how to distinguish a civilian population from ISIL from a non-peaceful one, therefore Russia should not go there. People with weapons in their hands are opposed to opposing the tyrannical regime of Assad, and this I consider extremely disgusting. We must fully trust the USA and the countries of the Western coalition that know what to do in such a situation. "(C) Makarevich
        how to distinguish ISIS civilians from non-civilians I don’t know

        therefore, Russia should not go there
        -He does not know, and therefore Russia should not climb ...
        source: live echo.
    3. Nishtiag 5 October 2015 09: 24 New
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      There must be some methods of influencing the press. They should have been developed over the past 100 years. Not the closure of the objectionable (although, in my opinion, it would probably be better, because such pedagogical sources of civilization are not needed), but judicial or, perhaps, professional journalistic ... For example, you give false information that is refuted by facts, and then not Sorry. One, two, three, five, ten times. Fine, bigger fine, temporary ban on work, change of leadership, nationalization with the sale of assets under the hammer.

      It seems like you can’t do your job efficiently - so you don’t have to do this work. If, for example, a person who works in the industry mows, he will be fined and then fired. And if the company, which, for example, delivers cheese to the shelves, cogs, and the cheese is infected with an atypical pneumoebola with signs of syphilis, then this plant will simply be shut down immediately. For you cannot poison people. In the meantime, not a single thinker from ancient times could unequivocally answer what is worse for a person: poisoned food or poisoned information (faith in a distorted truth).
    4. siberalt 5 October 2015 10: 15 New
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      Who in Syria the enemy determines the legitimate Syrian power. Well, if the West can do nothing else but create an online show of Russian military assistance, then let Poroshenko learn this. Nowhere is funnier laughing There was doubt that in the West politicians are not demented, but only play along to please an overseas host. Now everything is clearing up.
    5. Air Force captain 5 October 2015 11: 02 New
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      I believe in the next world ... with the journalist who vyselevat such articles will be in demand no less than with thugs and infanticide. Their sin is in a lie ... and it is no less terrible
      1. Tambov Wolf 5 October 2015 16: 15 New
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        Or maybe it’s better to attach a wall to this wall? Or they will have to wait a long time for that world. We are not 37 years old ...
    6. Will 5 October 2015 11: 03 New
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      The main thing is that internal pressure does not put pressure on Putin where, for worse and more.
    7. _my opinion 5 October 2015 12: 09 New
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      I remembered the bombing of NATO by Serbia ... when their airstrikes led to the deaths of many civilians, the Western press instantly voiced the "collateral losses" ... tfu on those and others (in the sense of NATO and the Western press) ...
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        Regarding the Doctors Without Borders hospital, information appeared that it was the base of the Taliban. And the so-called medical NGOs themselves justify that at the time of the bombing, the Taliban left the territory. And look at the activities of "Doctors" in the Donbass - caught in possession of a huge amount of drugs
        1. kotvov 7 October 2015 18: 46 New
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          Regarding the Doctors Without Borders hospital, information appeared that it was the base of the Taliban. ,,
          and it doesn’t seem to you that this is another stuffing. the cunduz was under the authority of the government, and then it became a base in two days, it just seems that now the Americans want to pay off, so they launched the duck.
    8. Yars 5 October 2015 23: 15 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      Civilians became victims of the bombing. Judging by our data, they (Russian Aerospace Forces) drop unguided shells on residential areas where civilians are dying, and on areas controlled by the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting against Assad. He (Vladimir Putin) supports Assad, bringing new suffering.


      Such stamped blanks are thrown even before hehe crashes of our aircraft.

      Yeah ... information war strikes no worse than war on the battlefield.

      However, the more effective the result of the actions of our military aviation, the stronger will grow the shaft of such stampings.

      Here the main thing KREMLYU does not succumb to pressure from outside .... but it will be frantic.


      Today he drove in a car and listened to German radio, today they took and translated an interview with a certain Anton Chadsky, praised him as the hero who created the quilted jacket, thereby describing the image of the Russians as well as possible ..... I have not heard such an abomination for a long time, after hearing it appeared great desire to spit in the face of the radio ....
  2. aszzz888 5 October 2015 06: 12 New
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    Well came the mericatos and Co., on Faberge! laughing
    Yes, they came so that they howl in chorus, like jackals on ice !!!
    1. Tatar 174 5 October 2015 06: 23 New
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      Quote: aszzz888
      like jackals on ice!

      They remind me of cats that have stepped on the tail.
      1. inkass_98 5 October 2015 07: 01 New
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        I already somehow gave a link to this short story, but in this context it’s not a sin to bring it again:
        http://alternate-politics.info/content/strashnyi_son_sovremennogo_istorika
        Historian Sergei Mironenko felt a kick in the ass and collapsed on the frozen bottom of the trench. Still not believing what was happening, he got up and looked up. On the edge of the trench, the soldiers of the Red Army stood in a semicircle.
        - This is the last? - clarified one of the military, apparently the commander.
        “That's right, comrade political instructor!” - the soldier reported, whose kick sent the director of the State Archive to the trench.
        - Excuse me, what's going on? The historian muttered.
        “How is it going?” - grinned the political instructor. - The establishment of historical justice. Now you, Mironenko, will save Moscow from the Nazi invaders.
        Politruk pointed to a field on which several dozen German tanks froze in anticipation. Tankers climbed onto the towers and, shivering from the cold, watched with interest what was happening at Russian positions.
        - I? Why me? - Mironenko asked in shock. “What do I have to do with this?”
        “The most direct,” answered the political instructor. - All of you here have the most direct relation to this!
        The commander pointed Mironenko to the trench and the historian saw that it was full of respected people: there were already academician Pivovarov and his nephew-journalist, Svanidze was sitting by the machine gun with bulging eyes, next to him was the main de-regulator Fedotov, who was trembling from the cold, or from horror , further there were still familiar faces, but the frightened archivist completely forgot their names.
        “What are we all doing here?” - asked Mironenko. - This is not our era!
        The soldiers laughed together. Not only Russians but also Germans laughed, and even the recently killed German tanker, trying to maintain decency and pretending not to hear anything, nevertheless, shuddered with laughter.

        Read on yourself.
        1. Landwarrior 5 October 2015 14: 18 New
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          Quote: inkass_98
          I already somehow gave a link to this short story,

          I read something like that, but Rezun was in the main role there wassat
  3. brasist 5 October 2015 06: 12 New
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    Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk:
    Russian troops in Syria are the destruction of world security.


    Egghead and then revealed his yap ...
    1. Minstrel 5 October 2015 07: 15 New
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      Quote: brasist
      Egghead and then revealed his yap ...


      And yes, following the example of his Western "friends", he would cease (and his associates in the "Svidomo" power) to call the moderate Donbass opposition the pro-Russian militants. wink
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    3. I am human 7 October 2015 22: 52 New
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      The rabbit by the ears will soon be caught and washed into the toilet ...
  4. Throw 5 October 2015 06: 14 New
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    How much you can laugh stiffly at ridicule, dropping down to their paid baseboard ...
    Not tired?
    1. afdjhbn67 5 October 2015 06: 33 New
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      He smiled, an interesting perspective, sometimes in the top ten hit ..
      1. Born in the USSR 5 October 2015 07: 17 New
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        Quote: afdjhbn67
        places in the top ten hit ..

        Only one mistake - the Polish magazine should be called nevertheless as closely as possible in Polish and closer to the essence i.e. not “Pan or gone”, but "Liquid Kakich"
        1. afdjhbn67 5 October 2015 08: 07 New
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          Liquid-kakich is rather closer to the Serbian-Croatian laughing
        2. sunzhenets 5 October 2015 09: 31 New
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          And what about the Polish journalists-Bzdyszek Vsecpa-nsky and Dupka Rvanevsk?
  5. mig31 5 October 2015 06: 15 New
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    And the liberals should be fucked, if only they would pay, but they thought of how to cover the events for them, in a word - neither fish, nor meat - a talking head without brains .....
  6. Name 5 October 2015 06: 15 New
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    Interesting little parallels, that’s just how many those liberals would “live” during the Second World War; not at large, but REALLY LIVED AN OVERVIEW .... I think that for a very short time.
  7. Koronik 5 October 2015 06: 16 New
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    Bravo to the author !!! I haven’t had such fun in the morning!
    1. EvgNik 5 October 2015 08: 12 New
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      Bravo to the author !!! I haven’t had such fun in the morning!

      Yeah, at first after serious articles I almost believed.
  8. Tatar 174 5 October 2015 06: 20 New
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    There is such a film "People and Freaks" Who watched the film will figure out who the people are here, and who those others are, and in the stream of lies poured out by the "free press" any normal sane person will understand right away. The question is whether there are a lot of people and “the rest” in the world, and the “free” Euro-USA press mainly contributes to the multiplication of the “rest” population with their materials, because they don’t need people - they ask a lot of uncomfortable questions .
  9. venaya 5 October 2015 06: 21 New
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    Ladies and gentlemen from the neoliberal press, well, how much can you make a laughing stock of yourself?

    They are a laughing stock. This is their game and often resultant, no matter how we deny it. Drop by drop, drip on the brain, after which a person gets tired, loses the orientation of reality. Methot well worked out, and for us, too, only we rarely notice this ourselves, or more often do not want to notice.
  10. Zomanus 5 October 2015 06: 28 New
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    You need to finish the operation as soon as possible.
    And for this you need to constantly detect and hit new targets.
    The faster we deprive the IS of bases and replenishment, the faster we will finish the operation in Syria.
    Well, Iraq and other countries are next in line.
  11. Oman 47 5 October 2015 06: 28 New
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    So they (IT) and “win” the war - on the Internet fields and screens of zombies ...
    EXCAVATOR KILLERS.
    Morons, b ..! fellow
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      on behalf of the trade union of excavators, I am protesting the destruction of peaceful excavators by American aviation .. angry
  12. parusnik 5 October 2015 06: 32 New
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    The irony, of course, is bitter ....... Bitter, but if you delve into the world press during the Second World War .. we will find articles about the "inadequate" actions of the Soviet troops against the Nazis .. The article hits, not in the eyebrows .. minuses, "quiet" , the author received ...
  13. rotmistr60 5 October 2015 06: 32 New
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    The irony, of course, is bitter ...

    It may be bitter, but absolutely appropriate in this situation. The West and their sloths with their media have already gone shit in the past few days. It means that Russia is really causing tangible damage to this "wasp nest" built with the help of Western "democracy."
  14. Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 06: 37 New
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    About Igo of Moscow is very accurate. On the first day of the start of our aviation attacks on ISIS, he wandered there (in the ear of matzah). How many cries, and one is more tolerant than the other!
  15. Vityok 5 October 2015 06: 40 New
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    What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write, if it would cover the Great Patriotic War ... The Western foreign press would also scream, and the Russian liberal press would immediately "smear their forehead with greens and put to use! request
    1. EvgNik 5 October 2015 08: 16 New
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      to the Russian liberal press - they would immediately "smear their foreheads with greens and put into consumption!

      And do not depart from good traditions.
  16. Glot 5 October 2015 06: 42 New
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    It is clear to us that all such screams are nonsense. But this is not nonsense for our ears, but for the Western as a whole. And western ears believe him, alas.
    We need the same informational counter-actions.
  17. asar 5 October 2015 07: 14 New
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    Welcome all!
    Expect this! Not at all surprised even! And the West ... Well, whoever has brains will turn them on! And if not, then there is no trial!
  18. 1536 5 October 2015 07: 23 New
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    During World War II, provocateurs were caught and shot according to the laws of wartime. And now the world. But honestly, the "geysers" got it.
  19. Minstrel 5 October 2015 07: 33 New
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    The name of the Polish publication would be more suitable - “Wrzódak”, a slang word that is a compound of: “wzhud” (ulcer - wrzód) and “rodak” (compatriot - rodak), because the Poles themselves began to name each other in the last time in connection with the "warm and friendly" relations between people in this country.
  20. Shiva83483 5 October 2015 07: 38 New
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    Krasyuki ... not in the eyebrow, but in the eye ... and so it would be, with these dzermokratv will become, at the count of Paskud, at the count of ...... am
  21. Cap.Morgan 5 October 2015 07: 59 New
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    So nothing funny, the Western press wrote. About the campaign to the East and the liberation of the peoples of the USSR from Bolshevism. Many believed ...
    1. Das Boot 5 October 2015 08: 44 New
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      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      So nothing funny, the Western press wrote. About the campaign to the East and the liberation of the peoples of the USSR from Bolshevism. Many believed ...

      and what, in fact, is wrong? This was a campaign to the East with the goal of liberation from Bolshevism. In this case, the Western press did not lie.
      1. 0255 5 October 2015 11: 03 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        So nothing funny, the Western press wrote. About the campaign to the East and the liberation of the peoples of the USSR from Bolshevism. Many believed ...

        and what, in fact, is wrong? This was a campaign to the East with the goal of liberation from Bolshevism. In this case, the Western press did not lie.

        Another ravings on the topic of "Hitler the Liberator"? Do you think that if Germany won, we would live happily ever after while drinking Bavarian beer? Are you by any chance not one of these “figures”? Didn’t you forget to zig up?
        1. Das Boot 5 October 2015 12: 06 New
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          Quote: 0255
          Another ravings on the topic of "Hitler the Liberator"? Do you think that if Germany won, we would live happily ever after while drinking Bavarian beer? Are you by any chance not one of these “figures”? Didn’t you forget to zig up?

          stop stupid. What does the ridge and beer have to do with it? The propaganda of the Third Reich presented the war in the east as a liberation campaign. Goebbels wrote in 1943 that Germany pursues not selfish goals, but the only liberation from Bolshevism. My remark was related to the fact that Western propaganda, in particular, Nazi propaganda, did not cheat, speaking of the de-Bolshevikization of the USSR as its goal No. 1 in the east. Why is this out?
          Quote: 0255
          "Hitler the Liberator"?
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            Quote: Das Boot
            stop stupid. What does the ridge and beer have to do with it? The propaganda of the Third Reich presented the war in the east as a liberation campaign. Goebbels wrote in 1943 that Germany pursues not selfish goals, but the only liberation from Bolshevism. My remark was related to the fact that Western propaganda, in particular, Nazi propaganda, did not cheat, speaking of the de-Bolshevikization of the USSR as its goal No. 1 in the east.

            Didn’t you really cheat on me? Hitler wanted to destroy the Russians, leave only 25% as slaves, the "de-Bolshevization" of the USSR was only a kind of noble excuse, and not goal number 1. Do you think that if in Russia / the USSR there was a different government, Hitler would not attack?
            And why did Hitler annex Austria, part of Czechoslovakia? Poland in 1939 and France in 1940. Did Hitler also save from Bolshevism? The Germans also bombed the British for protection against the Bolsheviks?
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              the dispute is pointless. "Shaved-sheared."
              Quote: 0255
              and France in 1940, Hitler also saved from Bolshevism?
              And France, what does Ost have to do with the general plan?
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              I missed it. I wanted to beat off the minus, but poked it on the minus. I apologize.
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          What kind of artiodactyls in the photo?
        3. ioann1 6 October 2015 15: 44 New
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          Russian Natsik from their own ignorance of history hung the Imperial flag of Russia next to the Nazi. Moreover, this is quite common in Russia, unfortunately.
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        Quote: Das Boot
        It was a campaign to the East with the goal of liberation from Bolshevism.

        Exemptions whom, Please clarify?
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          Release of whom, please specify?

          for clarifications - to the materials of Nuremberg and Goebbels' memoirs.
      3. Fight cat 6 October 2015 13: 27 New
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        a young man ziggling at the Liberation Reich, you didn’t beguile anything, you know that you wouldn’t be there if the boot of the Russian soldier had not trampled the predatory snout of the mongrel of the German Reich! Those same soldiers in quilted jackets of protective color who brought peace to Europe for decades!
  22. 2224460 5 October 2015 08: 21 New
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    What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...
    On the Internet, I found this option:
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      Quote: 2224460
      On the Internet, I found this option:

      Credited option good Although our liberals have long said this negative
  23. vladimirvn 5 October 2015 09: 15 New
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    I recall the 90s. The first and second Chechen wars. The liberal press is like a knife in the back with its articles. Information companies about the disproportionate use of force. Committees of soldiers' mothers bought and raised on Western grants. Hatred among the military for all journalists, special powers given by the state, to some obscure obscure personalities called themselves human rights defenders. It must not be allowed that this would happen again, whenever.
  24. akudr48 5 October 2015 09: 32 New
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    The irony, of course, is bitter ... But is it not with such publications that we have to deal with literally every day.

    Not only irony, but also an integral part of the information war, in which, along with the Western media, Russian liberal publications are actively participating.

    For example, ECHO OF MOSCOW, with the head Veny Diktov, a famous infocrot who attended the UN session, together with his girlfriend Lesya, as Venya expertly told.

    Venya and Lesya were there, they saw Obama himself, and decided that the UN was not suited and should be reformed, that is, rebuilt as the USSR was rebuilt so that everything was liberal, free, and theirs.

    Reformat the UN, and that’s all, because they know better what the UN should be, and the veto is removed as a totalitarian relic.

    And then who bombed whom and with what results, Lesya, who saw Obama, will tell you this. And Venya will bring expertise.

    There is such a small branch of the State Department in the editorial office of the ECA on the Arbat in Russia ...
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      He has it for a long time !!!
  25. Papin 5 October 2015 10: 14 New
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    The author is well done, it never crossed my mind!
    A good argument in a conversation with a liberal!
  26. grandson of the hero 5 October 2015 10: 30 New
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    And, in my humble opinion, we turned into liberals ...
    We make a fuss with this fifth column, with pests, with thieves, with enemy uplifts. We ourselves are afraid to admit that, God forbid, they would have existed before the Second World War, they would not have defeated us. We are afraid to recognize the need to adopt today and now tough methods of dealing with the enemies of the state. And do not look back at the pederast neighbors. You have your own weddings there. And we have our country.
    How a thousand times Joseph Vissarionovich was right. And if we think that the situation today is not that ... Yes, not that. She's even worse!
  27. Mikhail Krapivin 5 October 2015 10: 56 New
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    And even to plant the fifth column is not necessary, why feed them. A month to sell property and arrange documents and cases, a suitcase, train station, Brussels (any other democracy stronghold to choose from). And let their older comrades feed their whole lives, for the appetite of the liberals is good;)
  28. Dan Slav 5 October 2015 10: 57 New
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    Irony? No, this is not irony! This is propaganda!
    It existed now and then. I’m not at all sure that it is worth confusing the local operation in Syria and the Great Patriotic War. This garbage is not funny.
    Then the Power and the great people fought, then there was really a tragedy of peoples and states.
    Now this is also true in some places, but plus everything else, and the solution of problems is raising oil and gas prices.
    Blocking oil and gas supplies at dumping prices.
    The bear was driven into a corner and he began to bite. Will it be possible to solve the problem a barrel of oil again for 100 bucks.
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      I’m not at all sure that it is worth confusing the local operation in Syria and the Great Patriotic War. This garbage is not funny.

      I’m also not sure that I understood the author’s mocking allusion, which the majority here enthralled. One should be careful with the choice of analogies. Not witty.
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      to a single Soviet man in 41 and to a single Syrian guy in 2015, do not care if the great war is in your opinion or local. He personally dies. And for the Syrians who have been fighting for their state for four years .. They are fighting for whether Syria will remain on the world map, perhaps this is THEIR Great Patriotic .. And you are a chauvinist comrade and scum ..
  29. silver_roman 5 October 2015 11: 41 New
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    Ladies and gentlemen from the neoliberal press, well, how much can you make a laughing stock of yourself?

    it will last exactly until someone throws a couple of Molotov cocktails at their offices. Or as it was with the rain: more loyal and soft, but quite effective.
  30. Volzhanin 5 October 2015 11: 45 New
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    Forgive the ducks - Western trash - the liberal press. What to take from them?
    Again, it will be necessary for the collar and nose in what is piled up.
    And not just by the nose, but by calling for a judicial answer for the impudent, premeditated lie.
  31. Belousov 5 October 2015 13: 11 New
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    You read like that and marvel. You are even more amazed that 50% of the financing of the Echo Matzah comes from the structures of ... The question is - how the hell are you?!? The question is not even a rhetorical one.
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    Duc, everyone knows that the Great Patriotic War without the Americans would have won the hell, and Hitler in general Brad Pitt failed.
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    Article ++++ !! Everything is correct and on the shelves!
    Recently, I came across several very adult people who were directly enthusiastic about the “Echo.” Moreover, there was a good socialist past and education. It turns out that everyone is ready for cookies?
    Quote: Papin
    The author is well done, it never crossed my mind!
    A good argument in a conversation with a liberal!

    Now I will know how best to tell them.
  34. Landwarrior 5 October 2015 14: 27 New
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    Eh, although there is already neither her nor him, but ... could not resist.
    What would the modern foreign and Russian liberal press write if it covered the Great Patriotic War ...

    Whatever she writes:
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    The fifth column of Russia for a bowl of balanda and a warm corner in the crematorium, ready for registration in Majdanek or Treblinka. And this is not the opposition at all, but peasants, dissatisfied with everything and everything, and it is not clear what they are doing here, why not in the country of their dreams?
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    Russian service "BBC"

    Russian service "BBC" say .....



    The thistle was standing tall.
    In these thickets, through which the dusty road from Tula was now walking, death is waiting for a person at every step. “Minen” (in German), “mines” (in Russian) - I read on old and new tablets stuck in the ground. In the distance, on a hill, under the blue summer [420] sky, one could see the ruins of churches, the remains of houses and lonely chimneys. These stretch of weed for many kilometers almost two years was no man's land. The ruins on the hill were the ruins of Mtsensk. Two old women and four cats - these are all living things that Soviet soldiers found there when the Germans retreated on 20 of July. Before they left, the Nazis blew up or burned everything - churches and buildings, peasant huts and everything else. In the middle of the last century, Lady Macbeth, Leskov and Shostakovich, lived in this city. It somehow did not fit in my head that this drama of passions and blood was unfolding in the city, where now there was the smell of blood spilled for completely different reasons.
    Through the thickets of weeds we approached Mtsensk. No, one small brick building somehow survived. “Food point,” the announcement read. “Here you can get the daily diet: breakfast, lunch, dinner.” Next is another announcement: “The enemy destroyed and robbed this city, stole its inhabitants into captivity. They are calling for revenge. ”
    ,,,,
    Eagle, this not so long ago pleasant, quiet provincial city, still full of memories of Turgenev, was badly damaged. More than half of the houses were destroyed; the ruins were still smoking in some places. [421] The bridges over the Oka were blown up, but a temporary wooden bridge had already been built, and military trucks were going west, and ambulances from Karachev arrived in Oryol, fifty kilometers to the west, where heavy fights. How did Eagle live during the almost two-year German occupation?
    Of the 114 thousand people in the city, only 30 thousand remains now. The occupants killed many residents. Many were hanged in the city square - on the very one where the crew of the Soviet tank that first burst into Orel are now buried, as well as General Gurtiev - the illustrious participant in the Battle of Stalingrad, who was killed that morning when Soviet troops took the city with battle. They said that the Germans killed 12 thousand people and sent twice as many to Germany. Many thousands of Orlovites went to the partisans in the Oryol and Bryansk forests, because here (especially in the Bryansk region) there was an area of ​​active partisan action.


    or is it

    Even more terrible in nature than the numerous “oraduras” and “leaders” in the Kaluga, Oryol and Bryansk regions described in the book of Glukhov were German atrocities in the regions of Osveya and Rossony in northern Belarus in March 1943. It was a partisan region. Although the punitive expedition of the Germans did not succeed in capturing the partisans, the Germans occupied the Oswey area for some time. When the partisans returned to their base after forty days of fighting, they found that the Germans had burned down 158 villages to the ground. All healthy men were driven into slavery, and all women, children and the elderly were killed.
    “When ... the partisans returned ... corpses of people lay everywhere. Only those who survived with the partisans in the forest survived ... They tortured several thousand Soviet citizens ”195.


    Who do you think this writes?
    Alexander Werth British journalist, correspondent for The Sunday Times and the BBC radio station
    1. gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 38 New
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      so I’m saying that people were more honest then ... And if Churchill was at the head of Britain today ... he would definitely take the side of Russia in this matter.
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    Thanks to the Author !!!!! sincere statuyushka !!!! smiled at friend!
  38. Gost171 5 October 2015 18: 37 New
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    Plus to the author. I would also add that when this trinity raped him ok they smelled bad from the mouth
  39. Escanderm 5 October 2015 22: 18 New
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    Gentlemen, I understand that it’s not quite on the topic, but so far there is no such topic.
    Here's an interesting video, no one heard anything?
  40. scorpiosys 5 October 2015 22: 29 New
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    PRESS is a relic of antiquity.
    How "PRESS" will be able to show a missile or bomb strike in the "dynamics" ??? 15000 newspaper pages at 25 frames per second (PAL)? to show in dynamics (fast page turning, such as animation effect ...) 10 minutes of video recording !!!
    PRESS !!!!
    PICTURE !!!
    Owner of UMOV !!!
    Do not make laugh my old liver. She has long been no laughing matter.
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    Quote: mirag2
    Makarevich
    how to distinguish ISIS civilians from non-civilians I don’t know

    therefore, Russia should not go there
    - He does not know, and therefore Russia should not climb ...
    source: live echo.

    The patient has an exacerbation!
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      something Akhejakova is silent .. It is time for her to apologize to ISIS already ...
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    The world community strongly condemns the shelling by the Red Army units of cities and towns under the control of German troops, who sow freedom and democracy in them. This leads to civilian casualties. Only 5% of the strikes of Stalin’s soldiers are directed at Wehrmacht troops, the rest mow down the ranks of the opposition and local police. As a result of one of these attacks, groups of moderate opposition, led by the dictatorial regime fighter Stepan Bandera, suffered. Washington is demanding that the Kremlin stop the bloody operation, which could lead to serious consequences, including economic sanctions against Moscow.
    Yeah, and would be sent on a hike on a high trip! not that country was to write this now is freedom of speech.
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    Judging by the content of the article, the author was unable (at least for an example) to find negative publications of the modern Russian liberal press about the actions of the Russian air forces in Syria.
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      yes it’s full .. and not yet evening .. they write ....
  44. andrew42 6 October 2015 12: 59 New
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    While everything is going as it should. I personally was afraid that ours would engage in curtsy and fly flying to bomb IS, skipping all that scumbag that is funded by NATO and actually generates a civil war - I mean the SSA and other "moderately immoderate." It's great that they began to extrude them in full. Who will chase after the "classic" IS - this time will tell. First of all, it must disperse those formations that attack the state institutions of Syria. Whoever didn’t lay down his arms and did not go to negotiations is to blame. Keep it up! Assad Foreve, armed opposition mast dai.
  45. Old Siberian 6 October 2015 13: 32 New
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    Western tongues would shut their tongues lower than their backs. By the way, our liberals also do not interfere with this.
  46. galakt 6 October 2015 14: 44 New
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    In Syria, Russia protects primarily: international law once, expanding the front with Yusiye along the Bandera Kiev-Syria line is better than waiting for ISIS to approach our borders two, this is very important
    (America is behind a large puddle and it’s on the drum. We, too, were not close to the hostilities, but the bandera was frozen for now), we managed to move the world off the ground and it begins to rotate where we need it. I do not think that those 60 countries that declared yusiei on their side are eager to fight with us. Especially now, when they look and listen about the targeted bombing of terrorist bases in Syria.
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  48. gintnerserg62 6 October 2015 21: 29 New
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    But something like that was in those days .. I remember something like headlines in the German press "at a time when peaceful German bombers flew about their business vile Belgian anti-aircraft gunners insidiously fired on them .." somewhere like that .. So that nothing is new under the moon ..
  49. mr.vasilievich 7 October 2015 06: 09 New
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    It’s time to recognize and say in plain text who is the organizer of ISIS, who is the organizer of Maidan and “color” revolutions, who instills a fascist ideology in the world. Do not be shy, you need to name the organizations and names of their leaders so that everyone knows their neighbors and acquaintances. If the Foreign Ministry is forced to observe "political correctness", then patriotic organizations (not to be confused with those who are hiding behind this word) are not required to comply with it.
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    bravo, applaud and applaud hi