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If necessary, the Russian air group in Syria will cover the "Moscow"

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Russian ships located in the Mediterranean Sea, together with land air defense systems are able to provide effective defense of the airfield near Latakia in Syria, where the Russian air group is located, reports MIC With reference to the former chief of staff of the Navy Viktor Kravchenko.




“When planning an air defense operation in Syria, Russian military facilities received special attention. As far as I know, the protection of airplanes and helicopters stationed at an airfield near Latakia is carried out in an integrated manner - by means of air defense of ground units and the naval naval grouping, ”said Kravchenko.

“I happened to repeatedly visit Syria at our logistics point at Tartus and at other airfields, so I am well aware of their location. I believe that our ships on the roads are capable of air defense systems to ensure the protection of our airplanes and helicopters. So air attacks on our planes and helicopters are almost impossible, ”he stressed, adding that“ the coastline in the province of Latakia is approaching the airfield ”.

According to his estimation, the cruiser “Moscow”, which heads the ship group, is armed with “sufficiently powerful anti-aircraft complexes: long-range air defense systems С-300М and short-range air defense systems“ Osa-MA ””.
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  1. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 3 October 2015 11: 55 New
    44
    prepared well! there will be a lesson to the Americans
    1. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
      48
      Everything is planned in the Christmas tree. Eagles !!!
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 3 October 2015 12: 00 New
        85
        It is not in vain that the banner is red in fate.
        No wonder the country hopes for us.
        Sacred words "Moscow is behind us!"
        We remember from the time of Borodin.
        (song: We are the Army of the People)
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 3 October 2015 12: 15 New
          23
          Quote: Baikonur
          The sacred words "Moscow is behind us!"

          the Moscow cruiser is armed with “sufficiently powerful anti-aircraft systems: the S-300M long-range air defense systems and the Osa-MA short-range air defense systems”.


          ... take into account IMHO the crazy idea of ​​3,14ndos to "brush off" our air force base at sea!
          Well, in addition, they keep in their head "to dump everything that is not flying" into sinful land (isolation of the theater of war, if the Yankees are not joined to our coalition)

          “Syria is our land!” (C) Bagdasarov S.A. -
          Syria is “our land”, the birth of Russian civilization is associated with it, the State Duma deputy, political scientist Semyon Baghdasarov said on the air of the program “Evening with Vladimir Solovyov”.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siomZxLzt8s
          1. kepmor
            kepmor 3 October 2015 12: 29 New
            33
            "Earth" (Syria) may not be ours yet. But that the Syrians for us are faithful allies is 100%.
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 3 October 2015 13: 21 New
              -43
              Quote: kepmor
              "Earth" (Syria) may not be ours yet. But that the Syrians for us are faithful allies is 100%.

              I found the “allies” while in the backside it’s overcrowding, then they’ll open up, give me a striped candy and be fouled at the enemy .. East is a delicate matter .... Iraq (under Saddam), Iran to this day, and so on. Russia is just the last authority, if not Russia, then no one will know.
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 3 October 2015 14: 17 New
                -12
                Quote: Allex28

                Found "soyuznichkov" while in the ass sverbet,

                Maybe someone will answer? Or how? Tikhushki have piled up and let's push the buttons. At least someone will be able to justify their disagreement?
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 4 October 2015 16: 40 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Allex28

                  Maybe someone will answer? Or how? Tikhushki have piled up and let's push the buttons. At least someone will be able to justify their disagreement?

                  Russia has three allies: its Army, Navy and Strategic Rocket Forces, however, Russia has temporary partners, to whom not only we are beneficial, but they are to us ...
                  You will not argue that we are now solving only problems with ISIS in Syria, I see a bigger picture ...

                  PS: of course, you were bombarded in vain ...
                2. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 23 New
                  23
                  Even when we (with the help of Shevarnadze) betrayed Iraq, we betrayed it by handing the "I mine" codes to the amers, which completely knocked out the air defense of Iraq, the Iraqi government did everything possible to get into our hands parts of the downed invisibility. Even when they were killed, they remained loyal allies towards us. It must be remembered that it was Iraq that proposed Russia to pay all of Russia's external debts in exchange for a “breakthrough” of the blockade from the United States. Then we thought that we were entering the camp of the democratic world, but it turned out to be head over heels in a democratic gloom. With all of my ... we are deeply indebted to all whom we betrayed, when the United States licked zadnizu and they had us as they wanted. We destroyed our missiles, and they rubbed our hands, we left (if I may say so) Europe, and the United States occupied our places. We must repay: Allied allies, and pindosam ...
                  1. Gogia
                    Gogia 5 October 2015 15: 23 New
                    +3
                    I’m not my own. There is an automatic system "friend or foe" is the "iron" that works according to certain algorithms. For the rest I have to agree ...
                    The hunchback with Shevik, and then the Ebon with the liberals did their best .... How many novae were cut, my mother does not cry. One dude told how in the Yak-38 Pacific Fleet they drowned under the ice - the pilots cried.
                    1. Talgat
                      Talgat 5 October 2015 18: 09 New
                      +2

                      "... Russia has three allies"

                      Enough already about "Russia has 3 ally - army fleet, etc."

                      It’s the liberals who are zombifying you - and in general it was a question of European "pseudo-allies" - that Russia does not need to fight for the interests of others

                      But in fact, Russia has LOTS OF ALLIES

                      And Syria and Iran and the Latinos and for the next xnumx years even the Chinese

                      but there is still a close circle - the former republics of the USSR - not all of course - but Belarusians and KZ and Kyrgyzstan and Armenia are definitely allies
                      1. Pissarro
                        Pissarro 5 October 2015 20: 31 New
                        +1
                        Also, when I hear the mantra about the allies in the form of an army and a fleet, it hurts. Our Foreign Ministry is not so stupid as to not find our allies. Russia has many potential and real allies in the world, the ability to work with them is diplomacy. And it’s only based on a club. stone age level
                3. skrabplus.ru
                  skrabplus.ru 5 October 2015 14: 40 New
                  0
                  I didn’t put anything, but I think that with regard to Syria, it does not apply to the rest (especially Ukraine)
              2. Rossiyanin
                Rossiyanin 3 October 2015 15: 04 New
                20
                Dear Allex28, you confused Syria with someone unfortunately!
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 3 October 2015 16: 51 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Rossiyanin
                  Dear Allex28, you confused Syria with someone unfortunately!
                  Not really With America? At least a little eyes open. There are no allies, but there are vassals. Tell me at least one ally of the Americans?
                  1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Ratmir_Ryazan 3 October 2015 20: 47 New
                    31
                    An ally is a partner in any relationship ... Now we have just such an alliance with Syria ... So they are our allies ... We have common interests and we jointly achieve goals that are in the interests of our state .. The first and main goal is the destruction of ISIS ... It has long been clear to everyone that this is a product of the United States and it was created, including to strike at Russia ... You can sit and wait when the whole territory of Syria, Iraq and everything nearby it will simply turn into a hotbed of terrorism involved in harsh fundamentally religious grounds with the idea of ​​hatred towards all non-Muslims ... And then it will come to their senses when they begin to penetrate our Caucasus with weapons of money and fanatics, for which they kill an unfaithful child, woman, old man it’s a feat ... And it can be done as our leaders have decided now - to stifle nits, if not in the bud, then in infancy ... When peace comes in Syria and Iraq, people will return to their homes in peace the US will still believe them and both of them to companies? There is never ... Everyone will remember that Russia helped, and everyone will remember the power of our weapons and the valor of our soldiers ... And this means that the United States will put its hypocritical language in its ass ... And Russia will rise even more international authority, and the Russian military-industrial complex will have a line of people wishing to buy real weapons, and not NATO shit and get trained at our military institutes ... Russia will expand its sphere of influence and supplant the United States and the West, and not only in the field of defense, but in trade relations ... you have mixed up, we are not fighting instead of Syria, you are fighting together ... Every Syrian who has not fled like a coward to Europe, but is fighting for his country knows that it is the USA and the West that created ISIS and do not want to destroy Assad , they want to completely destroy normal life in Syria, Iraq, and indeed in the Middle East ... And no one in the world except Russia really helped them ... And besides, before this whole story, Syria and I were not bad relationship, yes they owe us a weapon, but The USSR then supplied it to everyone who needed it and was not even interested in whether these countries could pay for it ... But we had a sea base there that we really needed there ... By the way, Yugoslavia refused us at that time in such a base !! ! Here you have the Serbs, brothers ... This is certainly not their fault, this leadership of Yugoslavia was afraid that we would act like Czechoslovakia ... But in the end it was their national interests, you can understand, the USSR was not ideal either , although with the same US can not be compared)))) ...
                    What are you worried about? What type are we fighting for them, but after the victory they will send us? ))) Why do they need it? We do not impose anything on them and do not force us to anything ... We fight together ... Our pilots will gain invaluable experience and pass it on to the rest, we will check our weapons and tactics, where we need to finalize ... Some advantages ... What a problem? We began to build international relations more correctly ... Our leaders did everything right, you can’t imagine better ...
                    1. Misha
                      Misha 4 October 2015 13: 37 New
                      +3
                      I'm not a pessimist, but if objectively: now it remains only to win this war, and not get stuck there for 10 years
                    2. Starley from the south
                      Starley from the south 4 October 2015 14: 19 New
                      +6
                      But it would be even better if other interested countries, such as China, Egypt, Iran, join us in Syria. And it will turn out like in the Second World War, the allies began to really (although it is doubtful) help us, when our victory was not in doubt, they wanted to cling to themselves, too, to be known as winners. I really hope that now we will not defeat ISIS alone.
                      1. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 4 October 2015 16: 45 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Starley from the South
                        But it would be even better if other interested countries, such as China, Egypt, Iran, join us in Syria. And it will turn out like in the Second World War, the allies began to really (although it is doubtful) help us, when our victory was not in doubt, they wanted to cling to themselves, too, to be known as winners. I really hope that now we will not defeat ISIS alone.

                        objectively, we need only those allies who can fight on earth, and at this moment - these are the armies of Syria, Iran and Hezbollah ...
                        also, an ally is needed, which provides the carrier group, while the "Admiral Ushakov" at the docks - this is China ...

                        other "allies" will only interfere with us, even more so, they will have to share data on targets, from which (let's not be naive) the effectiveness of the bombing will significantly decrease ...
                      2. Gogia
                        Gogia 5 October 2015 15: 32 New
                        0
                        Do I have a fair question? What did the Amer coalition bomb? Army of SAR and Kurds?
                      3. Pissarro
                        Pissarro 5 October 2015 20: 38 New
                        0
                        Have you forgotten Iraq, which is needed at least as a transit route for an air bridge from Russia through Iran and Iraq to Syria (well, which army doesn’t have any, and a Shiite militia), as well as Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, who are essentially an independent force in this fight acts with its own interests and can be potential allies. But not everyone needs to share with everyone, but only necessary
                  2. andrew42
                    andrew42 5 October 2015 11: 20 New
                    0
                    In general, I agree with you. Unfortunately, far from infancy. Even the period of the Americans' encouragement of the rising Taliban was already a "youth." At the moment, we have a whole fan of existing US projects - the Taliban, Al Qaeda, IS, the "moderate" Syrian opposition, and it is not known which side the Kurds will play on (where they will be drawn, and their Anglo-Saxons and Turks always used cannon fodder) . Projects partially nested in each other, partially parallel. So we have a whole “five” there, not yet clenched. A flock of fully grown animals, not yet mature. The last moment when this foundation of this flock can be destroyed, at least to disperse in the corners. And one more circumstance: there will be no more favorable diplomatic moment as it is now. While the gay politicians clung to the “handful” because of the refugees, Assad still stands, Iran is still in the game, and until the Kurds were pulled by promises of “sweet cakes” under the umbrella of the Amer’s, in reality “terrorist” coalition. To miss such a moment would be the greatest stupidity and irresponsibility in relation to the security of Russia.
                2. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 33 New
                  0
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Call me at least one ally of the Americans?

                  They are not there and this is their misfortune ... vassals sometimes have a desire to stir up and kick their overlord in the ass. And you are right in something when the Amer write with a capital letter, because they are only conquerors without a past and probably without a future, because they have no allies, but slaves. Fashington must sink into oblivion!
              3. shasherin.pavel
                shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 28 New
                -1
                Quote: Rossiyanin
                You confused Syria with someone unfortunately!

                maybe with my wife?
            2. Smit713
              Smit713 3 October 2015 17: 39 New
              +5
              There is some truth in this. But each case is unique. Russia should proceed from its interests. If the interests of Russia intersect with the interests of Syria, then we should go there. In this case, the fight against ISIS.
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 4 October 2015 10: 03 New
                +2
                Quote: Smit713
                There is some truth in this. But each case is unique. Russia should proceed from its interests. If the interests of Russia intersect with the interests of Syria, then we should go there. In this case, the fight against ISIS.

                But this is a plus good It should only be added that in the geopolitical arena it is time to clean the snout of our main "partner". We relaxed during the 90s, but times have changed.
            3. SeAl2014
              SeAl2014 4 October 2015 07: 57 New
              -4
              Your "... no one." It is written together. Watch for literacy. If it is not, then your thoughts are shitty.
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 4 October 2015 09: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: SeAl2014
                Your "... no one." It is written together. Watch for literacy. If it is not, then your thoughts are shitty.

                A "well-aimed" remark, but essentially say something?
                1. Doctor Savage
                  Doctor Savage 6 October 2015 08: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Allex28
                  A "well-aimed" remark, but essentially say something?


                  “None” is just grammatically correct. Because it is free from one of the introduced verbal viruses.

                  After all, "nobody" means the absence of anyone.
                  Just like "nothing" is the absence of anything. Emptiness.
                  For example, in the sentence “Nothing helps” - cognitive dissonance. Emptiness will not help. Of course.

                  So it is in No One Can Do It.

                  And "Nothing helps" - right. Anyway, it won’t help. "
                  And "No one is able to do this." Whoever is unable to do this.
            4. Gogia
              Gogia 5 October 2015 15: 18 New
              0
              In general, Syria has always been supported by the USSR, and then by Russia (This is from the 60s)
              The Alawites are close to Iran - this is also notorious.
              The situation they have is this: what candy can’t be bitten, if you don’t fight for yourself, then the Saudis will cut off their head. No one in Syria can help with this except us. Nearby, there are also Turks dreaming of northern Syria with oil to regain (old imperial splinters) and Kurds are constantly blowing. Assad must be negotiated with the Kurds - Kurdish autonomy should be created as part of the SAR, but so that they are not fed by the Americans. Unfortunately, not only our allies turned away from us, but we also turned away from them (IMHO, see Yugoslavia) And yet ... The Syrians are closer to me than the Persians. They did not try to hegemony in the region.
          2. Aleks28
            Aleks28 3 October 2015 13: 29 New
            -10
            Quote: kepmor
            "Earth" (Syria) may not be ours yet. But that the Syrians for us are faithful allies is 100%.

            Remember Papa Bashar and everything will fall into place.
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 3 October 2015 14: 23 New
              -9
              Quote: Allex28
              Can anyone answer?

              Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies — this is the army and navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.
              1. although
                although 3 October 2015 15: 56 New
                19
                Quote: Allex28
                Quote: Allex28
                Can anyone answer?

                Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies — this is the army and navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.

                He asked himself, he answered =) Well, we asked the wretched ...
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 3 October 2015 16: 54 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Makar
                  He asked himself, he answered =) Well, we asked the wretched ...

                  Well, at least one brave one was found ...
                  1. shasherin.pavel
                    shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 51 New
                    0
                    Explain why "-" grabbed? Apparently you consider yourself not brave, but the only smart one. You need to be more modest.
                2. saturn.mmm
                  saturn.mmm 4 October 2015 01: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Makar
                  He asked himself, he answered =) Well, we asked the wretched ...

                  There was no comma, therefore this applied to the words of Alexander the Third, the laws of punctuation.
              2. sniper
                sniper 3 October 2015 16: 33 New
                21
                Quote: Allex28
                Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander 3rd

                I don’t see anything “wretched” in these words ... Maybe you had something else in mind ??? Then commas to help you. wassat
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 3 October 2015 16: 49 New
                  -7
                  Quote: sniper
                  I don’t see anything “wretched” in these words ... Maybe you had something else in mind ??? Then commas to help you

                  Right !! good laughing It looks different. Now it’s impossible to fix it. repeat
                  1. shasherin.pavel
                    shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 58 New
                    0
                    You can always click "change" if you are the author of these words, even block and delete the statement if you feel shame for what was said.
                2. Smit713
                  Smit713 3 October 2015 17: 52 New
                  0
                  Got out
                3. Bort radist
                  Bort radist 3 October 2015 19: 52 New
                  0
                  Quote: sniper
                  Then commas to help you.

                  good Execute ........ well, according to the text
              3. pv1005
                pv1005 3 October 2015 17: 01 New
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                Quote: Allex28
                Quote: Allex28
                Can anyone answer?

                Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies — this is the army and navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.

                1. Rude is not necessary. For educated people, this is an axiom.
                2. To quote oneself, this is my friend, it already smacks of something like "Bonapartism."
                3. I didn’t put the cons, you are already an adult, you will draw your own conclusions. hi
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 3 October 2015 17: 08 New
                  -14
                  Quote: pv1005
                  To quote oneself, this is my friend, it already smacks of something like "Bonapartism."

                  Well, you see, at least someone pecked. wink
                  1. Foxmara
                    Foxmara 3 October 2015 23: 35 New
                    +4
                    Are you bred trolling here? Then get into the ban for long. Write on the topic, for that they have stuck minuses, that it is not clear what sculpt.
                  2. shasherin.pavel
                    shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 20: 02 New
                    0
                    Quote: Allex28
                    Well, you see, at least someone spat
                    Why did I change the quote so that it was clear that someone else could be corrected, and not just clean my own.
                2. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 59 New
                  0
                  fool
                  Quote: pv1005
                  you are already an adult
                  , as in a fairy tale: "Well-fed, not educated."
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              5. Vinnipukh
                Vinnipukh 3 October 2015 20: 27 New
                +6
                I don’t understand why you think these words of Alexander III are miserable?
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 4 October 2015 10: 29 New
                  -2
                  Quote: VinniPukh
                  I don’t understand why you think these words of Alexander III are miserable?

                  We drove the Lieutenant, rode ...
              6. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 3 October 2015 22: 02 New
                0
                Don’t get smart ... What do you think now, you need to sit at home, sharpen an ax and wait for the enemies to burst into your house? )))) Or maybe just join the squad and stop the hooligans until they are insolent? )))))) I think the second is more correct and at a lower cost ...
              7. shasherin.pavel
                shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 19: 48 New
                0
                Write “Alexander” and go to the Latin alphabet, where the “I” capital letter is like a Roman unit, there is also a “V” capital letter is a Roman five. Just why are these words of Alexander III “wretched”?
            2. Manul
              Manul 4 October 2015 00: 17 New
              +3
              Quote: Allex28
              Remember Papa Bashar and everything will fall into place.

              Well, now it’s clear - where are you from. Only our Israeli partners always assassinate Pope Assad, refer to him, and put him in without getting him as the main devil of hell.
              1. Starley from the south
                Starley from the south 4 October 2015 14: 24 New
                0
                Quote: Manul
                our Israeli partners always assassinate Pope Assad, refer to him, and put him in without getting him as the main fiend of hell.

                And what else to expect from them? But they will not praise him if they fought several times with Syria during his reign!
          3. st25310
            st25310 3 October 2015 19: 03 New
            +3
            Interesting referendum will be in Syria? wink
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 3 October 2015 19: 06 New
              +3
              Quote: st25310
              Interesting referendum will be in Syria?

              Untimely, IMHO, a question.

              Although quite an urgent wink
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        3. Rus2012
          Rus2012 3 October 2015 12: 52 New
          +6
          Quote: Rus2012
          if the Yankees don't join our coalition

          ... it looks like the Yankees have squeezed!
          Barack Obama wished Russia success in the fight against ISIS terrorists. This statement was made by the American president at a press conference in the White House. Obama stressed that fighting for leadership with Moscow in this situation would be foolish. Instead, the United States intends to work together.
          Barack Obama said: “I want Russia to succeed! The fight against ISIS is not a rivalry between the United States and Russia. It is in our interests to have a responsible and effective player on the world stage who will share this burden with us.”

          Source: vesti.ru.

          And all because, as they say, they were in a “scissor” between default and “nuclear attack” -
          The monster devours its creator. It has been and always will be. From reliable sources in the Israeli secret services yesterday it became known that ISIS intends to move from words to deeds and bring the Nuclear Tsunami project to life.
          .
          The leadership of ISIS has planned an unprecedented scale terrorist act - to detonate a nuclear charge and awaken the supervolcano Yellowstone. Thus, the militants intend to defeat all the kafirs (infidels) of the “rotten West” overnight.
          .
          Mossad notified the leadership of the CIA and the NSA and is now working closely with them to prevent the irreparable. The Americans are trying to do everything quietly, but at the moment they have not achieved any special results. I managed to discuss this topic with my former colleague, who is now working in the "company". According to him, at the moment, special services of America have compelled to take a position of dead defense, having cordoned off Yellowstone National Park with several guard rings. But they realize the inefficiency of this method: “The park is huge, and what is the charge of 1,5 megatons? With modern technology, this is a travel bag. There are a lot of options for delivering it to the point.
          http://cont.ws/post/128790

          * The only thing to remember in this situation is ISIS = US Secret Services
          1. Patriot22
            Patriot22 3 October 2015 13: 03 New
            -3
            And this is probably the leadership of igil said in the media?
            If you believe all the tales about yellowstone, then he should have already started to bum
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 3 October 2015 13: 24 New
            +3
            That's it! And Europe and we will have to disentangle when it changes its mind.
          3. Awaz
            Awaz 3 October 2015 15: 31 New
            +4
            I wouldn’t believe such garbage ... But the Russian special services should strain, and the citizens should be more attentive.
            1. Bort radist
              Bort radist 3 October 2015 19: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: AwaZ
              But the Russian special services should strain, and citizens should become more attentive.

              We (Western Siberia) before starting work in Syria had to check the warning system - sirens were turned on 5 times. I hope the necessary services in standby mode.
              1. shasherin.pavel
                shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 20: 08 New
                0
                It was the same in Skolsky, though no one attached any importance (at the mine these sirens howl every week, before the explosions).
        4. WKS
          WKS 3 October 2015 13: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Rus2012
          “Syria is our land!” (C) Bagdasarov S.A. -
          Syria is “our land”, the birth of Russian civilization is associated with it, the State Duma deputy, political scientist Semyon Baghdasarov said on the air of the program “Evening with Vladimir Solovyov”.

          Not quite so said. He spoke of Orthodoxy.
      2. cucujamba
        cucujamba 3 October 2015 21: 19 New
        0
        HVVKIU RV? If guessed unsubscribe ...
    2. herruvim
      herruvim 3 October 2015 12: 01 New
      104
      Martian diaries:

      14.06.2020/4/XNUMX Americans arrived. Using their super technologies, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX hours. They gave out hamburgers to everyone. It was tasty, but not enough for everyone - the Americans were fried.

      14.07.2020/2/XNUMX The Japanese flew in. Using their nano-technologies, they broke into our bunker in XNUMX hours. They distributed sushi to everyone. It was tasty, not enough for everyone - they ate the Japanese.

      14.08.2020/2/XNUMX Russians arrived. With the help of a crowbar and some kind of mother, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX minutes. They distributed the lyule to everyone. It wasn’t tasty, but it was enough
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 3 October 2015 12: 05 New
        14
        Quote: herruvim
        Martian diaries:

        14.06.2020/4/XNUMX Americans arrived. Using their super technologies, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX hours. They gave out hamburgers to everyone. It was tasty, but not enough for everyone - the Americans were fried.

        14.07.2020/2/XNUMX The Japanese flew in. Using their nano-technologies, they broke into our bunker in XNUMX hours. They distributed sushi to everyone. It was tasty, not enough for everyone - they ate the Japanese.

        14.08.2020/2/XNUMX Russians arrived. With the help of a crowbar and some kind of mother, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX minutes. They distributed the lyule to everyone. It wasn’t tasty, but it was enough

        Fulugan, you, my friend +
      2. ZU-23
        ZU-23 3 October 2015 12: 55 New
        +3
        Well, everything is as it should be in the science of military operations
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 October 2015 16: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: ZU-23
          Well, everything is as it should be in the science of military operations

          A helicopter carrier would not be in the way with Moscow with the Alligators. In general, it would be good then. hi
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 3 October 2015 18: 37 New
            +4
            Maybe that's why they did not give it away. In Ukraine, it is not particularly needed, but off the coast of Syria.
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          3. NEXUS
            NEXUS 3 October 2015 18: 46 New
            14
            Quote: NEXUS
            A helicopter carrier would not be in the way with Moscow with the Alligators. In general, it would be good then.

          4. Koshak
            Koshak 3 October 2015 19: 51 New
            +5
            Quote: NEXUS
            A helicopter carrier would not be in the way with Moscow with the Alligators. In general, it would be good then. hi

            "Alligators" and from land airports and sites work fine. On a fig still with the ship to bother.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 3 October 2015 20: 22 New
              +3
              Quote: Koshak
              "Alligators" and from land airports and sites work fine. On a fig still with the ship to bother.

              And the marine version of the Alligator wasted in vain? That's where to break it in ...
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 3 October 2015 20: 46 New
              +1
              The ship can move along the coast, transferring the helicopter group to where it is needed at the moment. A helicopter is not a plane - range and speed will be less.
          5. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 20: 12 New
            0
            And they said “Mistral” did not know what to adapt to ... This is such a platform that “three hundredths” can be placed on it.
          6. ermak.sidorov
            ermak.sidorov 5 October 2015 15: 16 New
            0
            Duc Egyptians promised to fit ... "fresh", hefty, import (Made in France)
            laughing
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      4. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 20: 10 New
        0
        In 70 they didn’t say so: We walled up the way out for them, and they ... and so on.
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    4. Altona
      Altona 3 October 2015 12: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg Chertkov
      Everything is planned in the Christmas tree. Eagles !!!

      ---------------------
      Ah, for my thoughts on the Black Sea Fleet, I immediately got two minuses from stupid people on the forum ... For a missile salvo with the right side on ground targets ... laughing
      1. Rostislav
        Rostislav 3 October 2015 12: 56 New
        +1
        These are the downsides of the frustration that the action so plans remained. bully
    5. Columnist
      Columnist 3 October 2015 20: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Chertkov
      Everything is planned in the Christmas tree. Eagles !!!

      At the very beginning of the "Syrian epic," it was a question of exclusively air attacks of the "IG". Now, the Navy is gradually being added. It remains a little patience - the next will be involved ground forces. Looks like our "partners" took up "cool", since they are pulling more and more strength. Apparently we squeezed them all corns ...
    6. bif
      bif 3 October 2015 21: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Chertkov
      Everything is planned in the Christmas tree. Eagles !!!

      Bloggers: Russian fighter with air-to-air missiles seen in the sky over Syria
      ".... As expected, the Russian Su-30СМ is covering from the air [bombers] the Su-24 / 25 / 34 over Idlib. At least two R-77 air-to-air missiles are visible," the statement said .
      “Judging by the air-to-air missile equipment, the Su-30СМ there just in case cover attack aircraft from the“ partners ”near the Turkish border,” the author notes .. "
      http://vz.ru/news/2015/10/2/770186.html
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  3. Civil
    Civil 3 October 2015 12: 01 New
    +3
    Most likely I had in mind the S-300F ...
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2015 12: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Civil
      Most likely I had in mind the S-300F ...


      It doesn’t matter what letter it is, it’s important that the S-300 also has a huge ammunition supply of missiles!
      Now the Yankees in Ingirlik are blocked tightly (except to bypass Syria in a huge arc), the Israelis are simultaneously blocked, and they have in the Golan, as luck would have it, again some sort of mess started, it seems, with Hezbollah ... ;-))
  4. zanoza
    zanoza 3 October 2015 12: 02 New
    15
    As popular wisdom says:
    "He is safe and God protects" and
    "Hope for God, but don’t be fooled."
    Good luck and prosperity to our group in Syria!
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 12: 05 New
      22
      Quote: zanoza
      zanoza RU Today, 12:02 ↑ New

      As the folk Russian wisdom says:

      If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans. drinks
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 3 October 2015 13: 37 New
        +7
        Quote: Krasmash
        If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.
        Pretext without your offer is superfluous recourse .
      2. Aleks28
        Aleks28 3 October 2015 14: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Krasmash
        If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.

        To paraphrase: "if you want something to work out, do it without the Americans"
        1. Krasmash
          Krasmash 3 October 2015 14: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Allex28
          Quote: Krasmash
          If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.

          To paraphrase: "if you want something to work out, do it without the Americans"

          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Quote: Krasmash
          If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.
          Pretext without your offer is superfluous recourse .

          Gentlemen, I agree with both options.
    2. boris-1230
      boris-1230 3 October 2015 15: 24 New
      0
      As popular wisdom says:
      "He is safe and God protects" and
      "Hope for God, but don’t be fooled."
      Good luck and prosperity to our group in Syria!

      Someone asked: “Is it right to say that evil must be paid for with good?”
      The teacher said: “Then why pay for the good?
      You must pay for evil in fairness, and good for good. ”
      negative
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 20: 25 New
        0
        Zarathustra was asked:
        Quote: boris-1230
        “Is it right to say that evil must be paid for with good?”
        The teacher said: “Then why pay for the good?
        You must pay for evil in fairness, and good for good. ”
    3. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 4 October 2015 20: 23 New
      +1
      I’m certainly an excavator operator, not a teacher, but God’s proper name is capitalized, like the Sun, and even in the Russian language textbook they write “sun”.
  5. Dmitry Toderes
    Dmitry Toderes 3 October 2015 12: 04 New
    30
    I already wrote such a comment, but still repeat.

    In the B. Vostok ISIS - the "Islamic" state of Iraq and the Levant
    In the South-West UGIL - the Ukrainian state of Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv
    Soon, probably in the North-West there will be a PROFIT - the Baltic State of Estonia and Lithuania.

    Terrorist states have taxed us. What to do?
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 12: 08 New
      -26
      - But why is there generally “Moscow”? Did ISIS have attack aircraft, or did they get a couple of battleships?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 3 October 2015 12: 25 New
        17
        This is a test for those who do not read newspapers on armored personnel carriers: in 4 days we have already been promised 10 times to use aviation in Latakia ...
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 12: 27 New
          -18
          Quote: hydrox
          This is a test for those who do not read newspapers on armored personnel carriers: in 4 days we have already been promised 10 times to use aviation in Latakia ...


          - "Never read Soviet newspapers at dinner." Seriously, for the first time I hear this. Maybe give some reference?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 3 October 2015 16: 41 New
            +1
            I do not presume to say whether it is true or not, but it is better to overdo it.
          2. anderles66
            anderles66 5 October 2015 10: 12 New
            +1
            And without reference and without newspapers, for starters, there are three options that beg me personally:
            1. "Erroneous strike" by the aviation forces of any of the coalition members under the leadership of the United States For example, like a hospital in Afghanistan or a wedding in Yemen. The region is crammed with aviation, the next ones are in Turkey, which itself is the organizer and sponsor of the IG.
            2. The emergence of moderate opposition drones with weapons. If differently - drums. Where from? Captured by careless Americans, Turks, Saudis, Iraqis (choose who you want from the region).
            3. The occurrence of a deliberately planned incident with military aircraft, such as the Boeing, followed by an attempt to neutralize the "overly aggressive" actions of Russian aviation.
            If there is a desire, I can sketch a couple more options ("switching" to the side of the IS of several (one) pilots with airplanes, shelling with rockets according to the Palestinian scenario, etc., etc.).
            In any case, if there is a military force, then there should be cover from any possible threats from the air. This is a primer, sorry, no offense.
            1. anderles66
              anderles66 5 October 2015 10: 59 New
              0
              I read below the author of the question. I admit my mistake, the arguments were wrong here are inappropriate. And he returned to confirm one of the possible options: "Turkey has accused the Russian Federation of violating the airspace." As they say, an unnamed search engine to help you!
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 3 October 2015 12: 29 New
        20
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        Did ISIS have attack aircraft, or did they get a couple of battleships?

        ISIS is a pawn on the board. But those who “play it” have aviation and a “couple of battleships”.

        Somehow yes
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 12: 33 New
          -24
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          But those who “play it” have aviation and a “couple of battleships”.


          - It is clear, in your opinion, that we are preparing for a "small, victorious war" directly with the USA. In Syria. In Ukraine, we have already won the USA, now we are in a hurry to win in Syria.
          1. Armored optimist
            Armored optimist 3 October 2015 13: 02 New
            +7
            And you do not believe that battling a grenade is dangerous?
            There you are:
            http://russian.rt.com/article/120768
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 13: 12 New
              -12
              Quote: armored optimist
              And you do not believe that battling a grenade is dangerous?


              - I believe. I just don’t understand why we need it. Why Syria has become - suddenly - so important.
              1. Armored optimist
                Armored optimist 3 October 2015 13: 24 New
                +7
                Because there is a struggle with the FSA not for life, but for death. By the 20th year, someone should fall apart and leave the historical arena. We cheer for ours. And you?
                1. Haettenschweiler
                  Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 13: 48 New
                  -15
                  Quote: armored optimist
                  Because there is a struggle with the FSA not for life, but for death.


                  - So I beg you. This "struggle" has not stopped since the victory over Germany in the 45th year.

                  Quote: armored optimist
                  By the 20th year, someone should fall apart and leave the historical arena.


                  - Why exactly the twentieth year? What is the new sacred date?

                  Quote: armored optimist
                  We cheer for ours. And you?


                  - It depends on who yours are.
                  1. Armored optimist
                    Armored optimist 3 October 2015 13: 58 New
                    +3
                    Is it weak to draw a conclusion on the flag and avatar?
                    1. Haettenschweiler
                      Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 14: 00 New
                      -10
                      Quote: armored optimist
                      Is it weak to draw a conclusion on the flag and avatar?


                      - Weak0. The flag is Russian, on the avatar is the launch of a rocket ... no, I have never been Sherlock Holmes.
                    2. Armored optimist
                      Armored optimist 3 October 2015 15: 25 New
                      15
                      On the avatar, the launch of the S-300, I commanded the division.
            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null 3 October 2015 13: 30 New
              13
              Quote: Haettenschweiler
              Why Syria has become - suddenly - so important.

              Suddenly? Well, well .. but what happened 2 years ago (the picture is clickable, and there is a date there):
            3. extremall
              extremall 3 October 2015 13: 44 New
              14
              If I say that we went behind enemy lines and proactively solve the strategic task of protecting our southern borders and, as a result, our country, will you understand? At the same time, we are solving a number of tasks, but all of them are ultimately determined by questions of our (and not someone else's) national security. If you don’t understand, I won’t explain - think for yourself, look at the map of Eurasia, study the history, tactics and strategy of waging wars, the modern press at last - this stream of crap has everything to understand - you only need to be able to isolate it ... develop intellectually in short . For the adult modern citizen of Russia, the question "why do we need Syria at all" sounds, to put it mildly, in a childish way.
              1. Haettenschweiler
                Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 13: 52 New
                -17
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Suddenly? Well, well .. but what happened 2 years ago (the picture is clickable, and there is a date there):


                - It’s one thing to rattle with weapons in the form of ships that did not take any part in the hostilities, unless, of course, the large-scale operation to save all refugees is considered. What they really have something to be proud of. A completely different matter is real air strikes and the impending large-scale ground operation.

                Quote: extremall
                If I say that we went behind enemy lines and proactively solve the strategic tasks of protecting our southern borders and, as a result, our country, will you understand?


                - Why now? Problems even with ISIS did not start yesterday or even the day before yesterday. Or before that the southern borders were irrelevant? By the way, the most effective “defense” strategy will be a nuclear strike on all neighboring states, so that stones and iron melt on the radioactive ground. Then it’s sure that no evil comes.

                Quote: extremall
                At the same time, we are also solving a number of tasks, but all of them are ultimately determined by issues of our, and not someone’s national security.


                - What tasks, if not secret?

                Quote: extremall
                If you don’t understand, I won’t explain - think for yourself, look at the map of Eurasia, study the history, tactics and strategy of waging wars, the modern press at last - this stream of crap has everything to understand - you only need to be able to isolate it ... develop intellectually in short .


                - Advice at all times is simple. Perhaps, in general, all questions will be answered exactly that way. (:

                Quote: extremall
                For the adult contemporary citizen of Russia, the question “why do we need Syria at all” sounds, to put it mildly, in a childish way.


                - Do not need this pathos nonsense. Tear yourself away from the computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never a "children's" question.
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 3 October 2015 14: 09 New
                  10
                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  - It's one thing to rattle with weapons in the form of ships that did not take any part in the hostilities ...

                  ... but were quite ready to "accept." Let me remind you:

                  - The USA once again decided to "teach a lesson to Assad tyrant"
                  - but this is bad luck - for some reason, the Russian fleet got between them and Assad
                  - there were rumors that the staff were warned - "one missile in the direction of the fleet ..." (that is, the Syrian coast, yes) "will be considered an attack on the ships of the Russian Federation"

                  Somehow yes

                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  Why right now? Problems even with ISIS did not start yesterday or even the day before yesterday. Or before that the southern borders were irrelevant?

                  Including diplomatic training - IMHO, the operation in Syria began to prepare least at the beginning of 2015 ..

                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  the most effective “defense” strategy will be a nuclear strike on all neighboring states, so that stones and iron melt on the radioactive ground

                  ... and welcome to the "hot" phase of the 3rd world thermonuclear .. fool

                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  Why did Russia start an operation in Syria

                  The war in Syria has been going on for four years now, EMNIP. That is, the Russian Federation did not "start" anything.

                  The aviation of the Russian Federation provides the ground operation, which is carried out by the Syrian army, Iran and God knows who else is there.

                  No more yes
                  1. Haettenschweiler
                    Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 14: 19 New
                    -6
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    .. but were quite ready to "accept." Let me remind you:

                    - The USA once again decided to "teach a lesson to Assad tyrant"
                    - but this is bad luck - for some reason, the Russian fleet got between them and Assad
                    - there were rumors that the staff were warned - "one missile in the direction of the fleet ..." (that is, the Syrian coast, yes) "will be considered an attack on the ships of the Russian Federation"

                    Somehow


                    - Well, the ships were set there so that the Americans could not start their operation by hitting the coast and further, inland, with all kinds of Tomahawks. But you must admit, the Russian Navy could get involved in the battle, but it might not get involved, and they put it there rather to frighten the Americans, and not for a real war.

                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Including diplomatic training - IMHO, the operation in Syria began to be prepared at least at the beginning of 2015 ..


                    - The previous question remains: why? Why has Syria become so important that the Russian Armed Forces are ready to throw soldiers and equipment, aircraft and the navy there? Assad has been spread rot for several years, so helping his “regime” is clearly not a priority.


                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    ... and welcome to the "hot" phase of the 3rd world ..


                    - I just developed the thought of the previous comrade to the absolute. Why be limited to half measures?

                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    The war in Syria has been going on for four years now, EMNIP. That is, the Russian Federation did not "start" anything.


                    - The war in Syria did without Russian participation. At least direct. I said exactly about the military operation that has just begun.
                  2. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 3 October 2015 14: 28 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Haettenschweiler
                    The Russian Navy could get involved in the battle, but it might not get involved, and they put it there rather to frighten the Americans, and not for a real war

                    Thank God that there was no “real war”. It could not do.

                    Quote: Haettenschweiler
                    Why has Syria become so important that the Russian Armed Forces are ready to throw soldiers and equipment, aircraft and the navy there?

                    Um .. once again I repeat - did not "become" .. she was "important".

                    - “soldier and equipment” - no need for dirt. There are no ground troops there. And it will not be, as stated. Security of the air base is uncountable, they guard, not ISIS, drive
                    - "Aviation" - Duc ... Russia is now the only one who can afford to do this despite the fact that the star-stripes and their allies will swallow it. And, it seems, they did swallow it - they complain that "the Russian Federation has introduced a no-fly zone." Neither Iran nor anyone else would have a ride like this
                    - "fleet" - and the fleet has exercises there now .. and in general - the fleet has been there for a long time, everyone is used to wink

                    Quote: Haettenschweiler
                    The war in Syria did without Russian participation. At least direct. I said exactly about the military operation that has just begun

                    Apparently, it became clear that Assad would be squeezed without external assistance. Accordingly, it was decided to provide this assistance.

                    Look ..
                  3. Haettenschweiler
                    Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 14: 38 New
                    -9
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Thank God that there was no “real war”. It could not do.


                    - Depends on what instructions were actually given by the Russian Navy. It is likely that in the event of a real conflict, they should have retreated. To be honest, I do not think that the turmoil in Syria is worth the war between NATO and Russia. The real cause of such a war could be a preemptive strike on the ever-expanding organization of the North Atlantic Treaty, contrary to the oaths and assurances of officials about "non-expansion." But Syria ...

                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Um .. once again I repeat - did not "become" .. she was "important".


                    “She has become more important, so to speak.” Because the decision on real military assistance to Assad was made only now, although the war, as you have already noticed, has been going on for four years. So something has changed a lot. And, yes, the decision on the ground operation has already been made. "There will be only officers and volunteer contractors." This is the question of
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    no dirt. There are no ground troops there. And it will not be, as stated.


                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Apparently, it became clear that Assad would be squeezed without external assistance. Accordingly, it was decided to provide this assistance.


                    - So, do you think Assad is so important for Moscow? However ... I also agree with this.
                  4. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 3 October 2015 15: 10 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Haettenschweiler
                    And yes ground operation decision already made. "There will be only officers and volunteer contractors"

                    Nah ...

                    Quote: http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/30/only/
                    30.09.2015 “If the decision to use the Russian military contingent in Syria enters the implementation phase, then only officers, as well as contract servicemen, who have expressed a corresponding desire” will take part in the military operation ”
                    .
                    “The operation to counter military IS will be mainly General Staff, Air Force officers and military-technical personnel for aircraft maintenance»
                    .
                    As stated in the Federation Council, the head of the presidential administration, Sergei Ivanov, only the Air Force will be involved in the operation, and the Russian military will not participate in the land war
                  5. Haettenschweiler
                    Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 15: 28 New
                    0
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Nah ...


                    - You are right, upon request for the current date I receive only negative reviews. Apparently, there will not really be a ground operation. And this is good!
                2. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 3 October 2015 16: 46 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  the expanding organization of the North Atlantic Treaty, contrary to the oaths and assurances of officials of "non-expansion." But Syria

                  The likelihood that they will climb on us from Europe is very small, the wrong people there. But the probability that after Syria and Iran all this ... will attack us is much higher.
                3. andj61
                  andj61 3 October 2015 18: 53 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  She became more important, so to speak. Because the decision on real military assistance to Assad was made only now, although the war, as you have already noticed, has been going on for four years. So something has changed a lot.

                  I think there are several reasons
                  The first, of course, is geopolitics. Israeli "comrades" argue that in four years, accumulated weapons, ammunition, spare parts, etc., have been practically expended in Syria. Resources allegedly spent 90, or even 95%. A little more - and Assad will have nothing to do with fighting. And in order to maintain Russia's authority in the BV, it is necessary to support Assad by helping him, and to give someone the teeth. For example, Qatari and Saudi (possibly American) fosterlings. If you do not show strength, they will not be respected.
                  The second reason is related to geopolitics, but it consists in showing the real striking power of the army, in particular, the airborne forces - and their Americans generally do not take into account, though in words.
                  Like that - look what we can do. And they give the corresponding picture. The propaganda effect is evident - in Berlin and Paris, even demonstrations in support of Russia's actions in Syria, and in thousands of people, which is simply surprising.
                  The third reason is to train the army in real combat conditions, and even in relatively greenhouse conditions, when the Syrians bear the main load on the confrontation on earth. Indeed, sudden combat readiness checks, air darts and tank biathlon are, of course, good, but real military operations are better.
                  And the fourth - or third and a half - reason is addressed to Europeans, both in the EU and very close, southern and native. Think gentlemen and panov.
                  And they were already thinking - the reaction is obvious. bully
                  And like a joke in the end - looking at the actions of the Russian military in Syria, ordinary Europeans and Ukrainians began to realize that yesterday’s tractor drivers and miners had really broken the Ukrainian army in Donbass. yes
                  That's something like ... hi
                4. Corsair
                  Corsair 3 October 2015 19: 02 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  - Depends on what instructions were actually given by the Russian Navy. It is likely that in the event of a real conflict, they should have retreated. To be honest, I do not think that the turmoil in Syria is worth the war between NATO and Russia. The real cause of such a war could be a preemptive strike on the ever-expanding organization of the North Atlantic Treaty, contrary to the oaths and assurances of officials about "non-expansion."

                  Have you forgotten about Crimea and Ukraine? Perhaps ours could have slipped back then, but decided now - that means there were reasons, remember about Mistral and 1,2 billion euros, which maybe not all, but got back. About the banking system, which is untied from a visa and a master card - there are many reasons - it was impossible to get into a tough confrontation with the United States and the EU, now the EU with its headache will certainly not get into Syria, and the United States does not like to fight with its own hands.
            4. K-50
              K-50 3 October 2015 16: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Haettenschweiler

              - I just developed the thought of the previous comrade to the absolute. Why be limited to half measures?

              Yes you are a maniac, my friend! belay laughing
              If the whole planet is in ruins, then live then where? fool
              There is no other Earth in your pocket. request
            5. MMX
              MMX 3 October 2015 18: 27 New
              +4
              - The war in Syria did without Russian participation. At least direct. I said exactly about the military operation that has just begun.


              So I’m guessing: the war in Syria has been going on for 4 years, and why did refugees just flood into the EU now? request
            6. andj61
              andj61 3 October 2015 18: 33 New
              +3
              Quote: MMX
              from and I’m wondering: the war in Syria has been going on for 4 years, and why did refugees just flood into the EU now?

              At first, Turkey did not banally let out refugees, but now it just choked on them. But even so, Syrian refugees make up 30-40% of those arriving in Europe. The range of the rest is extremely wide - from Afghans and Iraqis to Somalis, Ethiopians, Sudanese, Chadians, Libyans.
              And in Europe, Albanians sometimes join them, mowing down under the Syrians and counting on a freebie.
          2. mervino2007
            mervino2007 3 October 2015 21: 05 New
            +1
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Why has Syria become so important that the Russian Armed Forces are ready to throw soldiers and equipment, aircraft and the navy there?

            The reason for the start of our operation in Syria? The pressure of ISIS on B. Assad sharply increased. He began not to have time to answer in all places where attacks were carried out against him. The quantity turned into quality. The time came X. And off ...
          3. dvina71
            dvina71 4 October 2015 02: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: mervino2007
            The reason for the start of our operation in Syria? The pressure of ISIS on B. Assad sharply increased.


            Not only this. We can say that the fetus has ripened. Under other conditions in the Russian Federation, such a bunch of shit would be dumped for this feint, and they’re sitting ... they are being swallowed.
            And all why ... A wave of settlers has heated up passions in Europe and ordinary people do not want a stupid explanation - Putin is to blame. ISIS has grown to immodest sizes and held several demonstrations, convinced everyone of its cruelty. Well, probably one more thing. The United States ... the government ... there is simply no money for unplanned actions. Everything .. the state has nothing to pay for its obligations. It is still unknown how things will turn out with the next increase in the limit of public debt.
            So .. everything is in the hands of the Russian military. Not only the VKS, but also those who are working on plans for ground operations.
    2. lockout
      lockout 3 October 2015 18: 21 New
      +2
      Lord, how nice it is to see people who do not yell in unison, but think in any way on their own.
  • RUS69
    RUS69 3 October 2015 16: 44 New
    +4
    Everything is simple because our strategic, national interests + ship service port is the only one with access to the Mediterranean Sea.
    Arranged or still add ?? smile
  • Constructor1
    Constructor1 3 October 2015 12: 32 New
    +2
    I wonder where the Chinese aircraft carrier hid in the Mediterranean Sea. Something has not been heard about him in the news for a long time, or was it a glitch?
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 3 October 2015 13: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Designer 1
      or was it a glitch?

      It was a fake
  • 2s1122
    2s1122 3 October 2015 12: 47 New
    -1
    not right my friend is not a vein, careful God takes care. That's it!
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 October 2015 17: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    But why is there generally “Moscow”? Did ISIS have attack aircraft, or did they get a couple of battleships?


    this is so that their aviation suddenly did not suddenly appear immediately of the 5th generation.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 October 2015 13: 43 New
    +5
    Quote: Dmitry Toderese
    In the B. Vostok ISIS - the "Islamic" state of Iraq and the Levant
    In the Southwest UGIL -
    If they finish, then the Russian bear ISIS can turn into coal, and ISIS into a grill. Therefore, of course, they can test Misha’s patience, but only until a certain point.
  • K-50
    K-50 3 October 2015 16: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Dmitry Toderese
    Terrorist states have taxed us. What to do?

    Extinguish! angry
    Political and economic methods, and if they are not enough, "War is politics by other means!"
    That is, do not calm down? In turnips to them! angry
  • GRAY
    GRAY 3 October 2015 12: 08 New
    14
    Quote: seregatara1969
    prepared well! there will be a lesson to the Americans

    They are already afraid in advance.
    An interview with ex-Colonel Jack Jacobs appeared in a Saudi newspaper yesterday that said the United States could not stop the Russians in Syria, since Russia had established a “closed zone” over it.
    This means that any military aircraft entering the combat zone can be shot down, as a threat to the Russian Air Force.

    At the same time, American sources claim that the Russian Federation established a closed zone over the entire airspace of Syria, in addition, approaches to the air base in Latakia are also closed from the sea to a distance of 100-250 km from the coast of the Russian fleet’s exercise. Thus, the United States cannot even conduct air reconnaissance of the forces of the Russian Federation, deployed air defense systems.

    A source in the military circles of the American contingent in Turkey reported that aircraft approaching close to the Russian forces were illuminated by radar, while the source of the light could not be determined.

    "The Russians made it clear that they see everything, and it’s not worth going any closer, otherwise they will bring down."

    "Honestly, we were surprised by the Russian air defense systems, most likely there are the latest S-400 systems. I have no more ideas."
    Further away from me. Apparently, the "diplomatic patience" that Obama shows when making concessions to Russia is not entirely diplomatic, but is caused by a complete fiasco of the US armed forces, which bombed the Papuans and forgot what it is to deal with a real enemy armed with modern air and air defense systems.

    The United States is trying to save face by pretending that they agree not to interfere with Russia in Syria, but in fact, they simply cannot interfere with Russia in Syria, since they are more likely to interfere with themselves, having lost their aircraft.
    BRAT ARAB
    Today 02: 31
    1. Patriot22
      Patriot22 3 October 2015 13: 01 New
      -14
      It is ridiculous of course to read retired military pearls.
      They were given a kick in the ass for a long time, but they still think that it’s in the “business”.
      Yes, and it seems like planes in Syria continue to fly, I don’t know what the old man came up with there)
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 3 October 2015 13: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: Patriot22
        Yes, and it seems like planes in Syria continue to fly, I don’t know what the old man came up with there)

        I am sure that he talked about part of the territory controlled by the Syrian Arab army. There, by the way, and civilian sides fly. However, the coalition’s air forces are dumb there - yes, the sky is closed for them.
    2. Don
      Don 3 October 2015 13: 11 New
      +2
      I would not agree that the Americans are not able to create problems for us. They are masters of all sorts of dirty tricks and a downed Boeing over the Donbass is an example of this. Ours clearly took this into account when planning the operation in Syria, and they just won’t get away with it.
  • Dembel77
    Dembel77 3 October 2015 12: 08 New
    +6
    So aerial attacks on our planes and helicopters are almost impossible
    Is ISIS already equipped with military aircraft? Or are "sworn friends" afraid? These gentlemen from across the ocean are great experts in raking the heat with the wrong hands!
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 3 October 2015 12: 10 New
      -9
      Quote: Dembel 77
      These gentlemen from across the ocean are great experts in raking the heat with the wrong hands!


      - That's just in this case - no. Now the USAAF is fighting there, and not the British with the Germans. Surprisingly.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 3 October 2015 12: 33 New
        14
        Who would have fought with us like that!
        Combat mission :: "Find two excavators in the desert and bomb them, gain 11 thousand on the way back, put the control on the autopilot and not be afraid of anything, no one will touch you, diapers can not be worn. After completing the task, 2 weeks off and Purple Heart after the end of the business trip and rotation to the States "
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 3 October 2015 13: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Dembel 77
      Or are "sworn friends" afraid?

      Warn. Politely. And then they decided to conduct air reconnaissance, you know.
    3. your1970
      your1970 4 October 2015 00: 50 New
      0
      Absolutely standard gain group, armament is not superfluous in war!
  • Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 5 October 2015 18: 46 New
    0
    Amerikisa on a gilyak!
  • fox21h
    fox21h 5 October 2015 22: 08 New
    0
    Picture on the grudge of the day
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 3 October 2015 11: 56 New
    22
    Good luck and success to our. - and something else didn’t appear.





  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 October 2015 11: 56 New
    12
    there seems to have been "mirages" caught up repeat
    you wouldn’t go to Syria for a walk ...
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 3 October 2015 12: 18 New
      +2
      Andryukha. And do our naval officers there in Syria have anything to eat for? repeat
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 3 October 2015 12: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: wicked partisan
        And do our naval officers there in Syria have anything to eat for?

        aha yes
  • kil 31
    kil 31 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
    15
    A subtle hint of fat circumstances. The game went big. Gently set the no-fly zone and the boundaries of the water area.
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 3 October 2015 12: 03 New
      19
      Quote: Kil 31
      A subtle hint of fat circumstances. The game went big. Gently set the no-fly zone and the boundaries of the water area.
      I'm from a mobile phone, check if it is true.
      1. Patriot22
        Patriot22 3 October 2015 12: 22 New
        +1
        The original source goes to the site of a housewife, in English and cnn did not find anything. Maybe someone will look better
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 3 October 2015 12: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: Patriot22
          The original source goes to the site of a housewife, in English and cnn did not find anything. Maybe someone will look better

          Same thing - gamnosites alone.
          In theory, the A-10 does not fit into the American concept of the use of aviation, it should not be there, most Americans use the F-22.
          1. mervino2007
            mervino2007 3 October 2015 21: 29 New
            0
            Quote: GRAY
            In theory, the A-10 does not fit into the American concept of the use of aviation, there should not be them there

            A-10s are available there (Saudi news).
      2. noWAR
        noWAR 3 October 2015 12: 56 New
        0
        The fake is similar.
  • Kenji
    Kenji 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
    28
    Strengthening our group of forces and ensuring its security is good.
    1. fox21h
      fox21h 3 October 2015 12: 19 New
      16
      As I understand it, our no-fly zone was made on Syria, in order to avoid the so-called "accidental" flight of our dear "partners"
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +6
    So aerial attacks on our planes and helicopters are almost impossible

    So in fact they were preparing, it feels, seriously. In addition, it is unlikely that the so-called aviation the coalition would dare to inflict an air strike, even “erroneous”.
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +2
    Will it cover the air group? .. In general, these planes always covered the ships, but not vice versa ... In this situation, the cruiser can cover only the air base. And then only from the sea ...

    And as I see the repair of "Moscow" (by the way, long-planned) is postponed for an indefinite time ...
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 3 October 2015 12: 21 New
      +1
      Dear ministers, but at least one of you will be able to argue that I am not right? .. Or are you, like a small-bribed infantry, according to herd instinct? .. wink
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 12: 58 New
        +6
        don’t even hope you fell under the stern hand of the “patriots” rejoice that they can’t put it on the wall, I have on my next article the minuses of a pc fifty kopecks approach .. also encroached on the holy laughing
      2. marlin1203
        marlin1203 3 October 2015 13: 33 New
        +3
        I agree. Bullied already. People are too lazy to turn on the brain. Any air defense system has a “dome” of defeat, it is desirable that the object to be covered is in its center. And with what edge does He cover Latakia? In any case, its own wing will intercept at distant frontiers. In vain did they put fighters there. soldier
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 3 October 2015 15: 35 New
          +1
          I agree. Bullied already. People are too lazy to turn on the brain. Any air defense system has a “dome” of defeat, it is desirable that the object to be covered is in its center. And with what edge does He cover Latakia?

          The ships are equipped with sufficiently powerful radars that can cover the air base in the sense of early warning. I somehow think so ... hi
      3. am808s
        am808s 3 October 2015 21: 57 New
        -3
        your face on the avatar is hostile. So the hotsta minus can be slammed by someone who could not resist. This cruiser can block the floor of the sea and simultaneously land more than a dozen aircraft. Rejoice that it is not under repair.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 12: 22 New
      +1
      How dare you infringe upon the holy ...
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 3 October 2015 16: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        How dare you infringe upon the holy ...

        This is not the ability to think with your own head on your own? .. Yes, this is really blasphemy! .. smile
        Quote: marlin1203
        People are too lazy to turn on the brain

        In this case, there is nothing to include due to the lack thereof ... wink
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        you fell under the stern hand of "patriots" rejoice that they can’t put to the wall

        Alas, it is not the Americans or the Chinese with the liberals who will destroy Russia, but a dumb herd of urry patriots ...
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 3 October 2015 14: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Chicot 1
      Will it cover the air group? .. In general, these planes always covered the ships, but not vice versa ... In this situation, the cruiser can cover only the air base. And then only from the sea ...

      And as I see the repair of “Moscow” (by the way, long-planned) is postponed indefinitely

      It depends on what missiles they have - but 70 or 90 kilometers by land, they can cover.
      It’s another matter that our non-existent full-fledged aircraft carrier (just about the Mistral simply wouldn’t keep silent) would have just prevented - I remember the main argument against it - are we not going to fight abroad ??
      Well, remembering the experience of the Yankees, as well as the heroic defenders of Sevastopol (I understand that the bad neighborhood) is a good old battleship that can grind with the main caliber into fine dust everything that is closer than 40 km to the base by land.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 3 October 2015 15: 58 New
        0
        Quote: lelikas
        It depends on what missiles they have - but 70 or 90 kilometers by land, they can cover

        To begin with, think, what is more threatening to our aviation there, “on the spot”? .. Hypothetical planes or completely non-hypothetical MANPADS, which the IS fighters probably have ...
        Further, if there is a danger of a collision with the aircraft of a likely enemy, then why is there no such component necessary in such cases as cover fighters? .. They even happened to be in Afghanistan, when flights for military use were carried out in close proximity to the borders of Pakistan and Iran ... Fighters in this case will be much more effective than cruiser air defense missiles (even in conjunction with ground-based complexes), because even with the fact of their presence they can cool hot heads excessively ...

        And once again I repeat - from the moment of its appearance it was the planes that cover the ships, groups and formations of the fleet, but not the other way around. But ships to cover coastal facilities have been attracted and are being attracted more than once. And here is just such a case. The whole question is, what kind of foolish person came up with the idea of ​​"shielding the air defense of the attack aircraft cruiser"? ..
        1. K-50
          K-50 3 October 2015 16: 54 New
          +4
          Quote: Chicot 1
          Fighters in this case will be much more effective than cruiser air defense missiles

          Ships most likely play the role of a radar patrol carried out at sea, since they have powerful equipment for this, and the reaction time of a ship ready for battle is less than the fighter’s lift from an airfield. hi
        2. lelikas
          lelikas 4 October 2015 14: 55 New
          -1
          Quote: Chicot 1
          To begin with, think what is more threatening to our aviation there, "on the spot" ?.

          And why did I write the last four lines?
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +6
    There should be a reliable cover ... (this operation has been preparing for more than a year) In vain they climb ...! A fake is not a fake, but attempts are and will be ... We will immediately wet!
    1. evfrat
      evfrat 3 October 2015 12: 39 New
      -3
      Do not tell me more precisely, you probably know: how many years the operation was prepared? And ... will you personally wet?
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 3 October 2015 13: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: evfrat
        Do not tell me more precisely, you probably know: how many years the operation was prepared? And ... will you personally wet?

        As much as in the Crimea. The main thing is not time, but thoroughness. As long as ours operate without a hitch, then we'll see.
        1. evfrat
          evfrat 3 October 2015 15: 01 New
          +2
          In general, I am not interested in time. Here, just a specialist in inserting pictures and videos shines with knowledge of the information, arguing that: "(this operation has been preparing for more than one year)"
          And how many are in Crimea, by the way?
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 3 October 2015 12: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We will immediately wet!

      Are you already there ??? Good luck ! hi
      1. evfrat
        evfrat 3 October 2015 15: 02 New
        +4
        Here he "waters" around the clock his, v.y.s.se.r.a.ya. they have tons of copy-paste on their heads.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 3 October 2015 16: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: evfrat
          Here he "waters" around the clock his, v.y.s.se.r.a.ya. they have tons of copy-paste on their heads.


          Yes, leave you MIKHAN alone! He has interesting pictures (and where does he get them? request , do not prick!), you can laugh with him from the heart! And you are evil laughing, A bayonet, for example, is a specialist in "directions" (he knows about everyone who needs to go, but with the addresses! The postman Pechkin opposite him is a goldfinch!) And the fact that no one openly resents your address does not mean that you are white and fluffy . In the end, do not like it, do not read, minus - your right! By the way, for Jen Psaki, MIKHAN also wrote "yabyvdul" many times - there is a result!winked Leave the man alone! am
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          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 3 October 2015 17: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Dym71
            Yes, leave you MIKHAN alone!

            Quote: Dym71
            you can laugh with him from the heart! And you are evil

            Who touches him? This is a matter of taste - who likes the theater and who likes the ditties in the beer hall under the balalaika. smile
            Quote: Dym71
            A bayonet, for example, is an expert in "directions" (he knows about everyone where to go, but with addresses!

            Let it be rightly praised ... winked
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 11: 18 New
              0
              This is a fool's bullet - Bayonet done laughing good
  • DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 3 October 2015 11: 59 New
    0
    That’s why they won’t hit the positions of the needles from ships and submarines?
    1. Cossack Ermak
      Cossack Ermak 3 October 2015 12: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      That’s why they won’t hit the positions of the needles from ships and submarines?

      Isil mixed up with the local population. If they were separate, then the igil would have been gone in a couple of hours!)
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 3 October 2015 13: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      That’s why they won’t hit the positions of the needles from ships and submarines?

      Because a bomb is cheaper than a rocket.
  • okroshka79
    okroshka79 3 October 2015 12: 01 New
    +2
    Nevertheless, a beautiful and powerful ship goes through the Bosphorus! The author of the photo is my respect!
  • Raptor_RB
    Raptor_RB 3 October 2015 12: 01 New
    +6
    It will be a long way to Moscow to reach the areas of direct strike operations of our air forces. And the base - yes, under the umbrella easily. But it’s not forever that Moscow will be there, several S-300/400 ground divisions would not hurt.
  • barclay
    barclay 3 October 2015 12: 06 New
    +1
    Let us hope that land-based air defense elements in the immediate vicinity of the air base are also available.
    1. Isum
      Isum 3 October 2015 14: 23 New
      +1
      Well, like a couple of panzerov Americans discerned ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 October 2015 12: 09 New
    +3
    This is more a demonstration than a necessity. I do not believe that the "partners" dare to strike from the air at ours. This is so that the reconnaissance would fly more carefully, without going deep. The radars on the ships are powerful; they probably reach Italy too.
  • Mercenary
    Mercenary 3 October 2015 12: 13 New
    +3
    Nice to read! An integrated approach to conducting any military operations is definitely pleasing. If Crimea could be measured as a one-time successful operation, now the system is already visible. laughing
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 14: 36 New
      +1
      For three days it’s not possible to discern anything .. we will wait for pah, pah ..
  • mamont5
    mamont5 3 October 2015 12: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: barclay
    Let us hope that land-based air defense elements in the immediate vicinity of the air base are also available.

    Of course have. The Americans already stated THAT there were attempts to enter the protected area, where they were immediately "spotlighted".
    "The USA cannot interfere with Russians in Syria, as Russians have closed the sky

    An interview with ex-Colonel Jack Jacobs appeared in a Saudi newspaper yesterday that said the United States could not stop the Russians in Syria, since Russia had established a “closed zone” over it.

    This means that any military aircraft entering the combat zone can be shot down, as a threat to the Russian Air Force.

    At the same time, American sources claim that the Russian Federation established a closed zone over the entire airspace of Syria, in addition, approaches to the air base in Latakia are also closed from the sea to a distance of 100-250 km from the coast of the Russian fleet’s exercise. Thus, the United States cannot even conduct air reconnaissance of the forces of the Russian Federation, deployed air defense systems.

    A source in the military circles of the American contingent in Turkey reported that aircraft approaching close to the Russian forces were illuminated by radar, while the source of the light could not be determined.

    "The Russians made it clear that they see everything, and it’s not worth going any closer, otherwise they will bring down."

    "Honestly, we were surprised by the Russian air defense systems, most likely there are the latest S-400 systems. I have no more ideas."
    Further away from me. Apparently, the "diplomatic patience" that Obama shows, making concessions to Russia, is not entirely diplomatic, but is caused by a complete fiasco of the US armed forces, which bombed the Papuans and forgot what it is to deal with a real adversary armed with modern aviation and air defense systems. "
    http://x-true.info/26154-ssha-ne-mogut-meshat-russkim-v-sirii-tak-kak-russkie-za
    kryli-nebo.html
  • andrew075
    andrew075 3 October 2015 12: 17 New
    0
    YES AND SO, no one will stick
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 3 October 2015 13: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: andrew075
      YES AND SO, no one will stick

      Well, ISIS sabotage groups can quite often try to climb into the air base ... yes there we have a battalion of marines with reinforcement .... that's what this reinforcement means we will find out when they dare to poke around .... and there we will bomb daily and daily martyrs ... I think if this continues this way, after a week the Syrian Armed Forces will go on a liberation attack with the formation of a boiler with a large group in its middle .... although I'm now a couch strategist with a roach and beer ((
  • vell.65
    vell.65 3 October 2015 12: 17 New
    0
    Quote: seregatara1969
    prepared well! there will be a lesson to the Americans

    Just in case, all of a sudden the Americans mix up again and start to bomb something else.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 October 2015 12: 21 New
    +4
    For mamont5

    fiasco of the US armed forces that bombed the Papuans what it was like to deal with a real adversary armed with modern aviation and air defense systems

    Here you are very correctly noticed. They got used to flying with impunity knowing that the air defense systems were either already suppressed or there were no serious ones, so they "lost their scent." And here even the “flare” of the radar evokes a very bad feeling.
  • Alexey M
    Alexey M 3 October 2015 12: 26 New
    -16
    Well, yes to the Ukrainians did not climb so dragged into Syria.
    But what about the promise of our rulers that only the Air Force will be used? The Navy has already been pulled up, it will soon turn out that the Syrian Armed Forces are not able to protect our bases and will tighten the landing, and as the landing will be without tanks, then there will be tanks, artillery, RZSO and the soul will rush to heaven.
    Already, Iraq asks for help in the fight against igil ...
    So that we are stuck for the most I can’t ...
    And the fact that Nato wants to attack us in Syria I really doubt their gut is thin.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 3 October 2015 12: 53 New
      +7
      I don’t know what region you live in, “general”, but I think that you have never seen a “militant” live, you only know about their atrocities from the media, you and those close to you did not suffer from this beast, that's why you argue. And “we’ll get on at the very least”, when the “bearded” will be at our borders. Then, all of us Chechnya and Golyanovo with Kashirka will seem like "paradise flowers" and there will be no more allies - ONE FOR ONE WITH THIS KODEL WE WILL BE BATTLEING! HOW DO YOU FAVORITE SUCH AN OPTION?
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    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 3 October 2015 13: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey M
      And the fact that Nato wants to attack us in Syria I really doubt their gut is thin.

      Maybe it's still not in the gut, but in the head?
  • kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 3 October 2015 12: 29 New
    -1
    GRKR "Moscow" will provide very good air defense! That's for sure!
    If at least someone dares to go to Moscow, then I am sure that all 16 Basalts will immediately cool the fervor of the roast!
    Yes, and as it were, there are Mirages, and all the watchmen, Now I would fit Peter the Great there, the sky will be closed thoroughly!
  • Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 3 October 2015 12: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: herruvim
    . It wasn’t tasty, but it was enough

    Huge plus, I haven’t laughed so long, a great start to the weekend laughing lol good
  • willi
    willi 3 October 2015 12: 41 New
    +1
    Everything is fine ... But where will the ISIS get an air wing to strike at our base from the air? They’ll probably find fools with Kalash and something else to attack from the ground. And here I would like not Moscow, but the Missouri battleship, or the motorized rifle regiment of the SA (Soviet army) with artillery support in the form of the Gradov division with the task of taking up defense and providing 25-30 km of inaccessibility for artillery fire (although I don’t think that ISIS has artillery spitting for 30 miles)
  • Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 3 October 2015 12: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Dmitry Toderese
    Terrorist states have taxed us. What to do?

    “Maybe we comrade comrade warrant officer, we surely weep, comrade soldier, the whole world is in ruin” DMB.
  • roskot
    roskot 3 October 2015 12: 48 New
    0
    Moscow has a long arm. Where it is necessary to reach.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 October 2015 12: 50 New
    10
    Russia is not going to "sit" on gas and oil .... We will avenge our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ...!
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 3 October 2015 13: 04 New
      -9
      When did we manage to save Serbia? How did Novorossia defend themselves? If not for instructions from Moscow, then the self-proclaimed republics of Ukraine have grown to the border with Moldova.
      1. lockout
        lockout 3 October 2015 18: 28 New
        0
        No need to think with your head, it is very harmful. They said that we saved everyone and defeated everyone - which means that it is so.
        1. horoh
          horoh 3 October 2015 19: 06 New
          -2
          So do not think, since it is harmful laughing
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      3. dvina71
        dvina71 3 October 2015 20: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: killganoff
        about the self-proclaimed republics of Ukraine to the border with Moldova has grown.

        That's just not necessary .. okay? Remind me how many fought for the WCT? And how many kilometers from Donetsk is the demarcation line? The fact that the detachments (and then they were detachments) of the militias after Ilovaisk left already for Mariupol is not enough, which means. LDNR simply had no strength or further plan.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 03: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia is not going to "sit" on gas and oil .... We will avenge our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ...!


      Meehan, do you have a demotivator? - For Sberbank, for Gazprom, for Surgutneftegas, for Russian Railways .. laughing
  • 31rus
    31rus 3 October 2015 13: 00 New
    -2
    The main enemy is not yet in the air, but on the ground, the tactics of the militants are small groups that (cannot be excluded) can go to the airfield and fire (and not necessarily ISIS), the Saudis are “threatened”, so there may be supplies of modern man-portable air defense systems, I’m sure they will try we are "on the tooth" until they get the "teeth"
  • Leeder
    Leeder 3 October 2015 13: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    - It is clear, in your opinion, that we are preparing for a "small, victorious war" directly with the USA. In Syria. In Ukraine, we have already won the USA, now we are in a hurry to win in Syria.

    Unfortunately, some people only understand the demonstration of power ...
    Will it cover the air group? .. In general, these planes always covered the ships, but not vice versa ... In this situation, the cruiser can cover only the air base. And then only from the sea ...

    And what, in this case, hinders doing the opposite? And why only from the sea? The sky is one. wink
    S-300F allows you to control the sky, worse than ground, but still.
    As I understand it, the S-300/400 will not be allowed to install / deliver to us, therefore naval air defense systems were used.
  • dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 3 October 2015 13: 06 New
    0
    http://rusvesna.su/news/1443863063
  • Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 3 October 2015 13: 09 New
    +1
    Yes, yes, just to cover the airfield from the air!
    Political diplomats - so subtly troll the "conditional adversary"

    According to him, the heading the naval cruiser “Moscow” is armed with “sufficiently powerful anti-aircraft systems: the S-300M long-range air defense systems and the Osa-MA short-range air defense systems”.

    Laughing to tears.

    Guards missile the cruiser Moscow is the Russian missile cruiser, the lead ship of the 1164 Atlant project. Intended for striking enemy large surface ships, provides combat stability of ship anti-submarine groups. Air defense of remote connections, fire support for the landing.

    Rather, of course I agree. But, I think, not only air defense.

    Quote: LeeDer
    C-300 / 400 will not be allowed to put us there, so they deployed naval air defense systems.
  • Kurou
    Kurou 3 October 2015 13: 14 New
    +1
    And how far does ship artillery strike
    or is Moscow purely rocket?
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 3 October 2015 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Kurou
      And how far does ship artillery strike


      AK-130 of Moscow hits 23 km
  • 2s1122
    2s1122 3 October 2015 13: 15 New
    +1
    Damn it, we only have a committee of soldier’s mothers receiving grants and shouting something that wouldn’t touch our children. from the top floor.
  • Million
    Million 3 October 2015 13: 23 New
    0
    Normal tactical move
  • Wils
    Wils 3 October 2015 13: 24 New
    -11
    interestingly, the “Admiral Kuznetsov” is not involved, although it would be logical and more convenient to deliver aircraft to an aircraft carrier, but there are no necessary aircraft suitable for basing on an aircraft carrier, and pilots trained on fingers can be counted.
    1. K-50
      K-50 3 October 2015 17: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Wheels
      interestingly, the “Admiral Kuznetsov” is not involved, although it would be logical and more convenient to deliver aircraft to an aircraft carrier, but there are no necessary aircraft suitable for basing on an aircraft carrier, and pilots trained on fingers can be counted.

      Aircraft for ship and airfield use are somewhat different. Why then use ship sushi from land, we don’t have so many of them, and motor resources will be worked out, again use experienced pilots, where they can handle them, and land ones are also not economically justified.
      "Everyone is able to do more good when used in the right place and situation."
  • marder4
    marder4 3 October 2015 13: 37 New
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    serious argument you will not say anything
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 3 October 2015 13: 58 New
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    If necessary, the Russian air group in Syria will cover the "Moscow"
    Well yes! With its 16 anti-aircraft defense launchers.
  • Hammer
    Hammer 3 October 2015 14: 34 New
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    Quote: Wheels
    interestingly, the Admiral Kuznetsov is not involved, although it would be quite logical and more convenient to deliver aircraft to an aircraft carrier.

    Because it’s not your strategy to play, transport such ships — these are whole operations.
  • Earnest
    Earnest 3 October 2015 14: 36 New
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    Quote: Haettenschweiler


    - Do not need this pathos nonsense. Tear yourself away from the computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never a "children's" question.

    No need for this pathos nonsense about our streets. Ask the same question, but about the United States, on the streets of some Illinois. You will be protected from the speed with which your belief in "freedom and democracy in light elf" will melt.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 19: 26 New
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      Quote: Earnest
      Ask the same question, but about the USA, on the streets of some Illinois

      Or Ferguson populated predominantly by blacks
  • rvsn90
    rvsn90 3 October 2015 15: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: VadimSt
    If necessary, the Russian air group in Syria will cover the "Moscow"
    Well yes! With its 16 anti-aircraft defense launchers.

    I think that the ammunition is not limited to sixteen launches, there is still a thread in the holds yes
    1. K-50
      K-50 3 October 2015 17: 25 New
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      Quote: rvsn90
      I think that the ammunition is not limited to sixteen launches, there is still a thread in the holds

      Recharge only on the naval base, unfortunately request sad
    2. K-50
      K-50 3 October 2015 17: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: rvsn90
      I think that the ammunition is not limited to sixteen launches, there is still a thread in the holds

      Recharge only on the naval base, unfortunately request sad
  • rvsn90
    rvsn90 3 October 2015 16: 05 New
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    - Do not need this pathos nonsense. Take a break from the computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never a "children's" question. [/ Quote]
    No need for this pathos nonsense about our streets. Ask the same question, but about the United States, on the streets of some Illinois. You will be protected from the speed with which your faith in "freedom and democracy in light elf" will melt. [/ Quote]

    Yes, yes ... what kind of democracy is "root" ??? such a concept, in its direct sense, does not exist for a lot of years, if at all such an action took place in history ?!

    P.S. The people in D. Greece were considered people. “Greek born”, and the rest “rednecks”, if I confuse something, then give a link to educational program! wassat
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 3 October 2015 16: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: rvsn90
      The people in D. Greece were considered people. "Greek born", and the rest "cattle"

      Yeah .. and also -

      Quote: Anecdote
      A citizen of Nepal is considered to be a person "made" by Nepalese and Nepal

      laughing
  • Mestny
    Mestny 3 October 2015 17: 21 New
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    Quote: Chicot 1
    Alas, it is not the Americans or the Chinese with the liberals who will destroy Russia, but a dumb herd of urry patriots ...

    Nothing, but you, truth-tellers, will then save her, revive from the ashes, and Mother Russia will shine without patriots.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 3 October 2015 17: 47 New
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    To prepare such an operation, it is not a "stool" to trade.
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  • alexej123
    alexej123 3 October 2015 21: 08 New
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    Question to the experts, I’m not very myself - is it possible to equip the Onyx and the Caliber KR special-purpose ammunition? If so, can Tartus at least fit an MRC of the “Grad Uglich” type with such “gifts”?
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 4 October 2015 18: 50 New
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      Quote: alexej123
      can fit at least Tortus RTOs such as “Grad Uglich” with such “gifts”?

      Do you seriously want to use gifts? What about condemning Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
  • Sea Wolf
    Sea Wolf 3 October 2015 21: 41 New
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    I am proud of our army, its commander in chief. The naval reserve officer himself. Well done. Keep it up.
  • Twilight
    Twilight 4 October 2015 09: 42 New
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    Quote: Allex28

    Can anyone answer?

    Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies — this is the army and navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.
    Even here this liberal guano climbs out, he asked himself, he answered himself (your creation is wonderful, Lord). But seriously, if we don’t get them there, then in a year or two they will start hosting in our south and then Outskirts will seem like a thief with these thugs (in the literal sense of the word).
  • misterwulf
    misterwulf 4 October 2015 09: 44 New
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    In principle, the GRKR can “Granites” or “Basalts” (remember that now it is) to shoot half of Syria. So, besides aviation, there is still someone to convey greetings to bearded men from Sevastopol laughing
  • Wolka
    Wolka 4 October 2015 16: 50 New
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    here you have ordered a "sea katyusha" for the IG, get and sign ... bully
  • Mentat
    Mentat 4 October 2015 20: 32 New
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    Quote: Allex28
    Quote: Allex28

    Found "soyuznichkov" while in the ass sverbet,

    Maybe someone will answer? Or how? Tikhushki have piled up and let's push the buttons. At least someone will be able to justify their disagreement?

    Not minus, but I think that you are wrong. There is no reason for your application. In what year did the MTO point appear in Tartus? Did the Syrians show any signs of hostility towards the USSR, towards Russia? What then are your speculations based on? To blame indiscriminately is worthless.
  • Mentat
    Mentat 4 October 2015 20: 37 New
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    Quote: Allex28
    Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander 3rd

    You see, Alex, this turns out to be your habit. Those who do not agree with your opinion are "wretched." Can't you make a mistake? Maybe you made a mistake or people don’t like the tone of your statements. You rush to extremes and are not self-critical enough, therefore, catch a bunch of minuses.
  • Old warrior
    Old warrior 5 October 2015 11: 03 New
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    And our fellows, avenged Palmyra ... after all, a UNESCO site. winked