If necessary, the Russian air group in Syria will cover the "Moscow"

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Russian ships located in the Mediterranean Sea, together with land air defense systems are able to provide effective defense of the airfield near Latakia in Syria, where the Russian air group is located, reports MIC With reference to the former chief of staff of the Navy Viktor Kravchenko.



“When planning an air defense operation in Syria, Russian military facilities received special attention. As far as I know, the protection of airplanes and helicopters stationed at an airfield near Latakia is carried out in an integrated manner - by means of air defense of ground units and the naval naval grouping, ”said Kravchenko.

“I happened to repeatedly visit Syria at our logistics point at Tartus and at other airfields, so I am well aware of their location. I believe that our ships on the roads are capable of air defense systems to ensure the protection of our airplanes and helicopters. So air attacks on our planes and helicopters are almost impossible, ”he stressed, adding that“ the coastline in the province of Latakia is approaching the airfield ”.

According to his estimation, the cruiser “Moscow”, which heads the ship group, is armed with “sufficiently powerful anti-aircraft complexes: long-range air defense systems С-300М and short-range air defense systems“ Osa-MA ””.
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  1. +44
    3 October 2015 11: 55
    prepared well! there will be a lesson to the Americans
    1. +48
      3 October 2015 11: 57
      Everything is planned in a "herringbone" style. Eagles !!!
      1. +85
        3 October 2015 12: 00
        It is not in vain that the banner is red in fate.
        No wonder the country hopes for us.
        Sacred Words "Moscow is behind us!"
        We remember from the time of Borodin.
        (song: We are the Army of the People)
        1. +23
          3 October 2015 12: 15
          Quote: Baikonur
          The sacred words "Moscow is behind us!"

          the cruiser Moskva is armed with "quite powerful anti-aircraft systems: the S-300M long-range air defense system and the Osa-MA short-range air defense system."


          ... take into account, IMHO, the crazy idea of ​​3,14ndos to "brush off" our air force base at sea!
          Well, in addition, they keep in mind "to dump everything that flies" into sinful earth (isolation of the theater of operations if the Yankees do not join our coalition)

          "Syria is our land!" (C) Bagdasarov S.A. -
          Syria is “our land”, the birth of Russian civilization is associated with it, the State Duma deputy, political scientist Semyon Baghdasarov said on the air of the program “Evening with Vladimir Solovyov”.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siomZxLzt8s
          1. +33
            3 October 2015 12: 29
            "Earth" (Syria) may not be ours yet. But that the Syrians are faithful allies for us is 100%.
            1. -43
              3 October 2015 13: 21
              Quote: kepmor
              "Earth" (Syria) may not be ours yet. But that the Syrians are faithful allies for us is 100%.

              Found "soyuznichkov" while itching in the ass, then they bow down, give a striped candy and in a moment they'll be smacked into enemies ... The East is a delicate matter ... Iraq (under Saddam), Iran to this day, and so on. authority, if not Russia, then no one knows.
              1. -12
                3 October 2015 14: 17
                Quote: Allex28

                Found "allies" while itching in the ass,

                Maybe someone will answer? Or how? Tikhushki have piled up and let's push the buttons. At least someone will be able to justify their disagreement?
                1. +7
                  4 October 2015 16: 40
                  Quote: Allex28

                  Maybe someone will answer? Or how? Tikhushki have piled up and let's push the buttons. At least someone will be able to justify their disagreement?

                  Russia has three allies: its Army, Navy and Strategic Rocket Forces, however, Russia has temporary partners, to whom not only we are beneficial, but they are to us ...
                  You will not argue that we are now solving only problems with ISIS in Syria, I see a bigger picture ...

                  PS: of course, you were bombarded in vain ...
                2. +23
                  4 October 2015 19: 23
                  Even when we (with the help of Shevardnadze) betrayed Iraq, it was betrayed by passing the codes "I am mine" to the Amers, which completely knocked out the Iraqi air defense system, the Iraqi government did everything possible to get parts of the shot down invisibility into our hands. Even when they were killed, they remained loyal allies in relation to us. It should be remembered that it was Iraq that offered Russia to pay off all Russia's foreign debts in exchange for a "break" of the blockade from the United States. Then we thought that we were entering the camp of the democratic world, but we found ourselves head over heels in democratic darkness. With all my ... we are deeply indebted to all whom we betrayed when they licked the zadnizu of the USA and they had us as they wanted. We destroyed our missiles, and they rubbed their hands, we left (if I may say so) from Europa, and the USA took our places. We must repay the debts: the allies are allies, and pndosam ...
                  1. +3
                    5 October 2015 15: 23
                    There are no "I am mine" codes. There is an automatic system "friend or foe" is "hardware" working according to certain algorithms. For the rest, I have to agree ...
                    The hunchback with Shevik, and then the Ebon with the liberals did their best .... How many novae were cut, my mother does not cry. One dude told how in the Yak-38 Pacific Fleet they drowned under the ice - the pilots cried.
                    1. +2
                      5 October 2015 18: 09

                      "... Russia has three allies"

                      Enough about "Russia has 3 allies - the army, the fleet, etc."

                      It is the liberals who are zombifying you - and in general it was about European "pseudo-allies" - that Russia does not need to fight for other people's interests

                      But in fact, Russia has LOTS OF ALLIES

                      And Syria and Iran and the Latinos and for the next xnumx years even the Chinese

                      but there is still a close circle - the former republics of the USSR - not all of course - but Belarusians and KZ and Kyrgyzstan and Armenia are definitely allies
                      1. +1
                        5 October 2015 20: 31
                        Also, when I hear the mantra about the allies in the form of an army and a fleet, it hurts. Our Foreign Ministry is not so stupid as to not find our allies. Russia has many potential and real allies in the world, the ability to work with them is diplomacy. And it’s only based on a club. stone age level
                3. 0
                  5 October 2015 14: 40
                  I didn’t put anything, but I think that with regard to Syria, it does not apply to the rest (especially Ukraine)
              2. +20
                3 October 2015 15: 04
                Dear Allex28, you confused Syria with someone unfortunately!
                1. +7
                  3 October 2015 16: 51
                  Quote: Rossiyanin
                  Dear Allex28, you confused Syria with someone unfortunately!
                  Not really With America? At least a little eyes open. There are no allies, but there are vassals. Tell me at least one ally of the Americans?
                  1. +31
                    3 October 2015 20: 47
                    An ally is a partner in any relationship ... Now we have just such an alliance with Syria ... So they are our allies ... We have common interests and we jointly achieve goals that are in the interests of our state .. The first and main goal is the destruction of ISIS ... It has long been clear to everyone that this is a product of the United States and it was created, including to strike at Russia ... You can sit and wait when the whole territory of Syria, Iraq and everything nearby it will simply turn into a hotbed of terrorism involved in harsh fundamentally religious grounds with the idea of ​​hatred towards all non-Muslims ... And then it will come to their senses when they begin to penetrate our Caucasus with weapons of money and fanatics, for which they kill an unfaithful child, woman, old man it’s a feat ... And it can be done as our leaders have decided now - to stifle nits, if not in the bud, then in infancy ... When peace comes in Syria and Iraq, people will return to their homes in peace the US will still believe them and both of them to companies? There is never ... Everyone will remember that Russia helped, and everyone will remember the power of our weapons and the valor of our soldiers ... And this means that the United States will put its hypocritical language in its ass ... And Russia will rise even more international authority, and the Russian military-industrial complex will have a line of people wishing to buy real weapons, and not NATO shit and get trained at our military institutes ... Russia will expand its sphere of influence and supplant the United States and the West, and not only in the field of defense, but in trade relations ... you have mixed up, we are not fighting instead of Syria, you are fighting together ... Every Syrian who has not fled like a coward to Europe, but is fighting for his country knows that it is the USA and the West that created ISIS and do not want to destroy Assad , they want to completely destroy normal life in Syria, Iraq, and indeed in the Middle East ... And no one in the world except Russia really helped them ... And besides, before this whole story, Syria and I were not bad relationship, yes they owe us a weapon, but The USSR then supplied it to everyone who needed it and was not even interested in whether these countries could pay for it ... But we had a sea base there that we really needed there ... By the way, Yugoslavia refused us at that time in such a base !! ! Here you have the Serbs, brothers ... This is certainly not their fault, this leadership of Yugoslavia was afraid that we would act like Czechoslovakia ... But in the end it was their national interests, you can understand, the USSR was not ideal either , although with the same US can not be compared)))) ...
                    What are you worried about? What type are we fighting for them, but after the victory they will send us? ))) Why do they need it? We do not impose anything on them and do not force us to anything ... We fight together ... Our pilots will gain invaluable experience and pass it on to the rest, we will check our weapons and tactics, where we need to finalize ... Some advantages ... What a problem? We began to build international relations more correctly ... Our leaders did everything right, you can’t imagine better ...
                    1. +3
                      4 October 2015 13: 37
                      I'm not a pessimist, but if objectively: now it remains only to win this war, and not get stuck there for 10 years
                    2. +6
                      4 October 2015 14: 19
                      But it would be even better if other interested countries, such as China, Egypt, Iran, join us in Syria. And it will turn out like in the Second World War, the allies began to really (although it is doubtful) help us, when our victory was not in doubt, they wanted to cling to themselves, too, to be known as winners. I really hope that now we will not defeat ISIS alone.
                      1. +4
                        4 October 2015 16: 45
                        Quote: Starley from the South
                        But it would be even better if other interested countries, such as China, Egypt, Iran, join us in Syria. And it will turn out like in the Second World War, the allies began to really (although it is doubtful) help us, when our victory was not in doubt, they wanted to cling to themselves, too, to be known as winners. I really hope that now we will not defeat ISIS alone.

                        objectively, we need only those allies who can fight on earth, and at this moment - these are the armies of Syria, Iran and Hezbollah ...
                        also, an ally is needed to provide the aircraft carrier group while the Admiral Ushakov is at the docks - this is China ...

                        other "allies" will only interfere with us, moreover, we will have to share data on targets with them, from which (let's not be naive) the effectiveness of the bombing will significantly decrease ...
                      2. 0
                        5 October 2015 15: 32
                        Do I have a fair question? What did the Amer coalition bomb? Army of SAR and Kurds?
                      3. 0
                        5 October 2015 20: 38
                        Have you forgotten Iraq, which is needed at least as a transit route for an air bridge from Russia through Iran and Iraq to Syria (well, which army doesn’t have any, and a Shiite militia), as well as Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, who are essentially an independent force in this fight acts with its own interests and can be potential allies. But not everyone needs to share with everyone, but only necessary
                    3. 0
                      5 October 2015 11: 20
                      In general, I agree with you. Unfortunately, it is no longer in infancy. Even the period when the Americans were encouraging the rising Taliban was already "youth." At the moment, we have a whole fan of existing state projects - the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, IS, the "moderate" Syrian opposition, and it is not known which side the Kurds will play on (where they will be drawn, and the Anglo-Saxons and Turks have always used them as cannon fodder) ... Projects are partially nested, partially parallel. So we have a whole "five" there, not yet clenched into a fist. A flock of fully grown animals, not yet matured. The last moment when this basis of this pack can be destroyed, at least dispersed in the corners. And one more circumstance: there will not be a more favorable diplomatic moment as it is now. While the gay European politicians cuddled "well ... in a handful" because of the refugees, while Assad is still in the game, Iran is still in the game, and while the Kurds are not pulled over with the promises of "sweet cakes" under the umbrella of the American, in reality "terrorist" coalition. To miss such a moment would be the greatest stupidity and irresponsibility in relation to the security of Russia.
                  2. 0
                    4 October 2015 19: 33
                    Quote: Allex28
                    Call me at least one ally of the Americans?

                    They are not there and this is their misfortune ... vassals sometimes have a desire to stir up and kick their overlord in the ass. And you are right in something when the Amer write with a capital letter, because they are only conquerors without a past and probably without a future, because they have no allies, but slaves. Fashington must sink into oblivion!
                2. -1
                  4 October 2015 19: 28
                  Quote: Rossiyanin
                  You confused Syria with someone unfortunately!

                  maybe with my wife?
              3. +5
                3 October 2015 17: 39
                There is some truth in this. But each case is unique. Russia should proceed from its interests. If the interests of Russia intersect with the interests of Syria, then we should go there. In this case, the fight against ISIS.
                1. +2
                  4 October 2015 10: 03
                  Quote: Smit713
                  There is some truth in this. But each case is unique. Russia should proceed from its interests. If the interests of Russia intersect with the interests of Syria, then we should go there. In this case, the fight against ISIS.

                  But this is a plus good It should only be added that in the geopolitical arena it is time to clean up the snout of our main "partner." We got sloppy during the 90s, but times have changed.
              4. -4
                4 October 2015 07: 57
                Your "... no one." Written together. Watch your literacy. If it is not, then your thoughts are shitty.
                1. +1
                  4 October 2015 09: 58
                  Quote: SeAl2014
                  Your "... no one." Written together. Watch your literacy. If it is not, then your thoughts are shitty.

                  "Apt" remark, but in essence, say something?
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2015 08: 15
                    Quote: Allex28
                    "Apt" remark, but in essence, say something?


                    "No one" is just grammatically correct. Because it is free from one of the embedded verbal viruses.

                    After all, "no one" means the ABSENCE of someone.
                    Just like "nothing" is the absence of something. Emptiness.
                    For example, in the sentence "Nothing will help" - cognitive dissonance. Emptiness won't help. Sure.

                    Likewise in "Nobody is able to do it."

                    And "Nothing will help" is correct. Whatever will not help. "
                    And "Nobody can do it." Whoever was - is not able to do it.
              5. 0
                5 October 2015 15: 18
                In general, Syria has always been supported by the USSR, and then by Russia (This is from the 60s)
                The Alawites are close to Iran - this is also notorious.
                The situation they have is this: what candy can’t be bitten, if you don’t fight for yourself, then the Saudis will cut off their head. No one in Syria can help with this except us. Nearby, there are also Turks dreaming of northern Syria with oil to regain (old imperial splinters) and Kurds are constantly blowing. Assad must be negotiated with the Kurds - Kurdish autonomy should be created as part of the SAR, but so that they are not fed by the Americans. Unfortunately, not only our allies turned away from us, but we also turned away from them (IMHO, see Yugoslavia) And yet ... The Syrians are closer to me than the Persians. They did not try to hegemony in the region.
            2. -10
              3 October 2015 13: 29
              Quote: kepmor
              "Earth" (Syria) may not be ours yet. But that the Syrians are faithful allies for us is 100%.

              Remember Papa Bashar and everything will fall into place.
              1. -9
                3 October 2015 14: 23
                Quote: Allex28
                Can anyone answer?

                Remember the DEAD words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.
                1. +19
                  3 October 2015 15: 56
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Can anyone answer?

                  Remember the DEAD words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.

                  He asked himself, he answered =) Well, we asked the wretched ...
                  1. -5
                    3 October 2015 16: 54
                    Quote: Makar
                    He asked himself, he answered =) Well, we asked the wretched ...

                    Well, at least one brave one was found ...
                    1. 0
                      4 October 2015 19: 51
                      Explain why "-" grabbed? Apparently you consider yourself not brave, but the only smart one. You have to be more modest.
                  2. +1
                    4 October 2015 01: 15
                    Quote: Makar
                    He asked himself, he answered =) Well, we asked the wretched ...

                    There was no comma, therefore this applied to the words of Alexander the Third, the laws of punctuation.
                2. +21
                  3 October 2015 16: 33
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander 3rd

                  I don't see anything "wretched" in these words ... Maybe you meant something else ??? Then commas will help you. wassat
                  1. -7
                    3 October 2015 16: 49
                    Quote: sniper
                    I don't see anything "wretched" in these words ... Maybe you meant something else ??? Then commas will help you

                    Right !! good laughing It looks different. Now it’s impossible to fix it. feel
                    1. 0
                      4 October 2015 19: 58
                      You can always click "edit" if you are the author of these words, even block and delete the statement if you are ashamed of what was said.
                  2. 0
                    3 October 2015 17: 52
                    Got out
                  3. 0
                    3 October 2015 19: 52
                    Quote: sniper
                    Then commas to help you.

                    good Execute ........ well, according to the text
                3. +11
                  3 October 2015 17: 01
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Can anyone answer?

                  Remember the DEAD words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.

                  1. Rude is not necessary. For educated people, this is an axiom.
                  2. To quote myself, this is my friend, already somehow smacks of "Bonapartism".
                  3. I didn’t put the cons, you are already an adult, you will draw your own conclusions. hi
                  1. -14
                    3 October 2015 17: 08
                    Quote: pv1005
                    To quote myself, this is my friend, already somehow smacks of "Bonapartism".

                    Well, you see, at least someone pecked. wink
                    1. +4
                      3 October 2015 23: 35
                      Are you bred trolling here? Then get into the ban for long. Write on the topic, for that they have stuck minuses, that it is not clear what sculpt.
                    2. 0
                      4 October 2015 20: 02
                      Quote: Allex28
                      Well, you see, at least someone spat
                      Why did I change the quote so that it was clear that someone else could be corrected, and not just clean my own.
                  2. 0
                    4 October 2015 19: 59
                    fool
                    Quote: pv1005
                    you are already an adult
                    , as in a fairy tale: "Well-fed, not well-bred."
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                5. +6
                  3 October 2015 20: 27
                  I don’t understand why you think these words of Alexander III are miserable?
                  1. -2
                    4 October 2015 10: 29
                    Quote: VinniPukh
                    I don’t understand why you think these words of Alexander III are miserable?

                    We drove the Lieutenant, rode ...
                6. 0
                  3 October 2015 22: 02
                  Don’t get smart ... What do you think now, you need to sit at home, sharpen an ax and wait for the enemies to burst into your house? )))) Or maybe just join the squad and stop the hooligans until they are insolent? )))))) I think the second is more correct and at a lower cost ...
                7. 0
                  4 October 2015 19: 48
                  Write "Alexandra" and switch to the Latin alphabet, where "I" is capitalized as a Roman unit, there is also capital "V" - this is Roman five. But why are these words "poor" in Alexander III?
              2. +3
                4 October 2015 00: 17
                Quote: Allex28
                Remember Papa Bashar and everything will fall into place.

                Well, now it’s clear - where are you from. Only our Israeli partners always assassinate Pope Assad, refer to him, and put him in without getting him as the main devil of hell.
                1. 0
                  4 October 2015 14: 24
                  Quote: Manul
                  our Israeli partners always assassinate Pope Assad, refer to him, and put him in without getting him as the main fiend of hell.

                  And what else to expect from them? But they will not praise him if they fought several times with Syria during his reign!
            3. +3
              3 October 2015 19: 03
              Interesting referendum will be in Syria? wink
              1. +3
                3 October 2015 19: 06
                Quote: st25310
                Interesting referendum will be in Syria?

                Untimely, IMHO, a question.

                Although quite an urgent wink
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          3. +6
            3 October 2015 12: 52
            Quote: Rus2012
            if the Yankees don't join our coalition

            ... it looks like the Yankees have squeezed!
            Barack Obama wished Russia success in the fight against ISIS terrorists. This statement was made by the American president at a press conference in the White House. Obama stressed that fighting for leadership with Moscow in this situation would be foolish. Instead, the United States intends to work together.
            Barack Obama stressed: "I want Russia to succeed! The fight against ISIS is not a rivalry between the US and Russia. It is in our interests to have a responsible and effective player on the world stage who will share this burden with us."

            Source: vesti.ru.

            And all because, as they say, they found themselves in a "scissor" between default and "nuclear terrorist attack" -
            The monster devours its creator. It has been and always will be. From reliable sources in the Israeli secret services yesterday it became known that ISIS intends to move from words to deeds and bring the Nuclear Tsunami project to life.
            ...
            The leadership of ISIS has planned an unprecedented scale terrorist act - to detonate a nuclear charge and awaken the supervolcano Yellowstone. Thus, the militants intend to defeat all the kafirs (infidels) of the “rotten West” overnight.
            ...
            Mossad notified the leadership of the CIA and the NSA and is now working closely with them to prevent the irreparable. The Americans are trying to do everything quietly, but at the moment they have not achieved any special results. I managed to discuss this topic with my former colleague, who is now working in the "company". According to him, at the moment, special services of America have compelled to take a position of dead defense, having cordoned off Yellowstone National Park with several guard rings. But they realize the inefficiency of this method: “The park is huge, and what is the charge of 1,5 megatons? With modern technology, this is a travel bag. There are a lot of options for delivering it to the point.
            http://cont.ws/post/128790

            * The only thing to remember in this situation is ISIS = US Secret Services
            1. -3
              3 October 2015 13: 03
              And this is probably the leadership of igil said in the media?
              If you believe all the tales about yellowstone, then he should have already started to bum
            2. +3
              3 October 2015 13: 24
              That's it! And Europe and we will have to disentangle when it changes its mind.
            3. +4
              3 October 2015 15: 31
              I wouldn’t believe such garbage ... But the Russian special services should strain, and the citizens should be more attentive.
              1. +2
                3 October 2015 19: 57
                Quote: AwaZ
                But the Russian special services should strain, and citizens should become more attentive.

                We (Western Siberia) before starting work in Syria had to check the warning system - sirens were turned on 5 times. I hope the necessary services in standby mode.
                1. 0
                  4 October 2015 20: 08
                  It was the same in Skolsky, though no one attached any importance (at the mine these sirens howl every week, before the explosions).
          4. WKS
            +2
            3 October 2015 13: 37
            Quote: Rus2012
            "Syria is our land!" (C) Bagdasarov S.A. -
            Syria is “our land”, the birth of Russian civilization is associated with it, the State Duma deputy, political scientist Semyon Baghdasarov said on the air of the program “Evening with Vladimir Solovyov”.

            Not quite so said. He spoke of Orthodoxy.
        2. 0
          3 October 2015 21: 19
          HVVKIU RV? If guessed unsubscribe ...
      2. +104
        3 October 2015 12: 01
        Martian diaries:

        14.06.2020/4/XNUMX Americans arrived. Using their super technologies, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX hours. They gave out hamburgers to everyone. It was tasty, but not enough for everyone - the Americans were fried.

        14.07.2020/2/XNUMX The Japanese flew in. Using their nano-technologies, they broke into our bunker in XNUMX hours. They distributed sushi to everyone. It was tasty, not enough for everyone - they ate the Japanese.

        14.08.2020/2/XNUMX Russians arrived. With the help of a crowbar and some kind of mother, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX minutes. They distributed the lyule to everyone. It wasn’t tasty, but it was enough
        1. +14
          3 October 2015 12: 05
          Quote: herruvim
          Martian diaries:

          14.06.2020/4/XNUMX Americans arrived. Using their super technologies, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX hours. They gave out hamburgers to everyone. It was tasty, but not enough for everyone - the Americans were fried.

          14.07.2020/2/XNUMX The Japanese flew in. Using their nano-technologies, they broke into our bunker in XNUMX hours. They distributed sushi to everyone. It was tasty, not enough for everyone - they ate the Japanese.

          14.08.2020/2/XNUMX Russians arrived. With the help of a crowbar and some kind of mother, they broke into the bunker in XNUMX minutes. They distributed the lyule to everyone. It wasn’t tasty, but it was enough

          Fulugan, you, my friend +
        2. +3
          3 October 2015 12: 55
          Well, everything is as it should be in the science of military operations
          1. +2
            3 October 2015 16: 53
            Quote: ZU-23
            Well, everything is as it should be in the science of military operations

            A helicopter carrier would not be in the way with Moscow with the Alligators. In general, it would be good then. hi
            1. +4
              3 October 2015 18: 37
              Maybe that's why they did not give it away. In Ukraine, it is not particularly needed, but off the coast of Syria.
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            3. +14
              3 October 2015 18: 46
              Quote: NEXUS
              A helicopter carrier would not be in the way with Moscow with the Alligators. In general, it would be good then.

            4. +5
              3 October 2015 19: 51
              Quote: NEXUS
              A helicopter carrier would not be in the way with Moscow with the Alligators. In general, it would be good then. hi

              "Alligators" and from land airfields and sites work fine. The fig still bother with the ship.
              1. +3
                3 October 2015 20: 22
                Quote: Koshak
                "Alligators" and from land airfields and sites work fine. The fig still bother with the ship.

                And the marine version of the Alligator wasted in vain? That's where to break it in ...
              2. +1
                3 October 2015 20: 46
                The ship can move along the coast, transferring the helicopter group to where it is needed at the moment. A helicopter is not a plane - range and speed will be less.
            5. 0
              4 October 2015 20: 12
              And they said "Mistrals" did not know what to adapt to ... This is such a platform that "three hundredths" can be placed on it.
            6. 0
              5 October 2015 15: 16
              Duc Egyptians promised to fit ... "fresh", hefty, imported (Made in France)
              laughing
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        4. 0
          4 October 2015 20: 10
          In 70 they didn’t say so: We walled up the way out for them, and they ... and so on.
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      4. 0
        3 October 2015 12: 17
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Everything is planned in a "herringbone" style. Eagles !!!

        ---------------------
        Ah, for my thoughts on the Black Sea Fleet, I immediately got two minuses from stupid people on the forum ... For a missile salvo with the right side on ground targets ... laughing
        1. +1
          3 October 2015 12: 56
          These are the downsides of the frustration that the action so plans remained. bully
      5. +1
        3 October 2015 20: 19
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Everything is planned in a "herringbone" style. Eagles !!!

        At the very beginning of the "Syrian epic" there was talk of exclusively air attacks by IS. Now, the Naval Forces are gradually being added. It remains a little to be patient - the ground forces will be involved next. Looks like our "partners" have taken up "cool" for us, since they are pulling up more and more forces. Apparently we squeezed all the corns on them ...
      6. bif
        +1
        3 October 2015 21: 51
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Everything is planned in a "herringbone" style. Eagles !!!

        Bloggers: Russian fighter with air-to-air missiles seen in the sky over Syria
        ".... As expected, the Russian Su-30SM is covering [bombers] Su-24/25/34 over Idlib from the air. At least two R-77 air-to-air missiles are visible," the statement said. ...
        "Judging by the equipment with air-to-air missiles, the Su-30SM are there, just in case, cover attack aircraft from" partners "near the Turkish border," the author notes .. "
        http://vz.ru/news/2015/10/2/770186.html
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    3. +3
      3 October 2015 12: 01
      Most likely I had in mind the S-300F ...
      1. +3
        3 October 2015 12: 21
        Quote: Civil
        Most likely I had in mind the S-300F ...


        It doesn’t matter what letter it is, it’s important that the S-300 also has a huge ammunition supply of missiles!
        Now the Yankees in Ingirlik are blocked tightly (except to bypass Syria in a huge arc), the Israelis are simultaneously blocked, and they have in the Golan, as luck would have it, again some sort of mess started, it seems, with Hezbollah ... ;-))
    4. +15
      3 October 2015 12: 02
      As popular wisdom says:
      "And God takes care of him" and
      "Trust in God, but don't do it yourself."
      Good luck and prosperity to our group in Syria!
      1. +22
        3 October 2015 12: 05
        Quote: zanoza
        zanoza RU Today, 12:02 ↑ New

        As the folk Russian wisdom says:

        If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans. drinks
        1. +7
          3 October 2015 13: 37
          Quote: Krasmash
          If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.
          Pretext without your offer is superfluous recourse .
        2. +5
          3 October 2015 14: 27
          Quote: Krasmash
          If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.

          I will paraphrase: "if you want something to work out, do it without the Americans"
          1. +1
            3 October 2015 14: 38
            Quote: Allex28
            Quote: Krasmash
            If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.

            I will paraphrase: "if you want something to work out, do it without the Americans"

            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Quote: Krasmash
            If you want to do something, then do it without the Americans.
            Pretext without your offer is superfluous recourse .

            Gentlemen, I agree with both options.
      2. 0
        3 October 2015 15: 24
        As popular wisdom says:
        "And God takes care of him" and
        "Trust in God, but don't do it yourself."
        Good luck and prosperity to our group in Syria!

        Someone asked: “Is it right to say that evil must be paid for with good?”
        The teacher said: “Then why pay for the good?
        You must pay for evil in fairness, and good for good. ”
        negative
        1. 0
          4 October 2015 20: 25
          Zarathustra was asked:
          Quote: boris-1230
          “Is it right to say that evil must be paid for with good?”
          The teacher said: “Then why pay for the good?
          You must pay for evil in fairness, and good for good. ”
      3. +1
        4 October 2015 20: 23
        Of course, I am an excavator driver, not a teacher, but God is a proper name and is written with a capital letter, like the Sun, otherwise they even write "sun" in the Russian textbook.
    5. +30
      3 October 2015 12: 04
      I already wrote such a comment, but still repeat.

      In the B. East, ISIS is the "Islamic" state of Iraq and the Levant
      In the South-West UGIL - the Ukrainian state of Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv
      Soon, probably in the North-West there will be a PROFIT - the Baltic State of Estonia and Lithuania.

      Terrorist states have taxed us. What to do?
      1. -26
        3 October 2015 12: 08
        - And why is there "Moscow" in general? Does ISIS have an assault aircraft, or have they acquired a couple of battleships?
        1. +17
          3 October 2015 12: 25
          This is a test for those who do not read newspapers on armored personnel carriers: in 4 days we have already been promised 10 times to use aviation in Latakia ...
          1. -18
            3 October 2015 12: 27
            Quote: hydrox
            This is a test for those who do not read newspapers on armored personnel carriers: in 4 days we have already been promised 10 times to use aviation in Latakia ...


            - "Never read Soviet newspapers at dinner." Seriously, this is the first time I've heard this. Can you give me some reference?
            1. +1
              3 October 2015 16: 41
              I do not presume to say whether it is true or not, but it is better to overdo it.
            2. +1
              5 October 2015 10: 12
              And without reference and without newspapers, for starters, there are three options that beg me personally:
              1. "Erroneous strike" by air forces of any member of the US-led coalition. For example, like a hospital in Afghanistan or a wedding in Yemen. The region is crammed with aviation, the nearest ones are in Turkey, which itself is the organizer and sponsor of IS.
              2. The emergence of moderate opposition drones with weapons. If differently - drums. Where from? Captured by careless Americans, Turks, Saudis, Iraqis (choose who you want from the region).
              3. The emergence of a deliberately planned incident with combat aircraft following the example of the Boeing, followed by an attempt to neutralize the "overly aggressive" actions of the Russian aviation.
              If there is a desire, I can sketch out a couple more options ("going over" to the side of IS of several (one) pilots with planes, firing rockets according to the Palestinian scenario, etc., etc.).
              In any case, if there is a military force, then there should be cover from any possible threats from the air. This is a primer, sorry, no offense.
              1. 0
                5 October 2015 10: 59
                I read the author of the question below. I admit my mistake, I was wrong the arguments are inappropriate. And he returned to confirm one of the possible options: "Turkey accused Russia of violating the airspace." As they say, an unnamed search engine will help you!
        2. +20
          3 October 2015 12: 29
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Did ISIS have attack aircraft, or did they get a couple of battleships?

          ISIS is a pawn on the board. But those who "play" it have both aviation and "a couple of battleships."

          Somehow Yes
          1. -24
            3 October 2015 12: 33
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            But those who "play" it have both aviation and "a couple of battleships".


            - It is clear, in your opinion, we are preparing for a "small, victorious war" directly with the USA. In Syria. In Ukraine, we have already won the USA, now we are in a hurry to win in Syria.
            1. +7
              3 October 2015 13: 02
              And you do not believe that battling a grenade is dangerous?
              There you are:
              http://russian.rt.com/article/120768
              1. -12
                3 October 2015 13: 12
                Quote: armored optimist
                And you do not believe that battling a grenade is dangerous?


                - I believe. I just don’t understand why we need it. Why Syria has become - suddenly - so important.
                1. +7
                  3 October 2015 13: 24
                  Because there is a struggle with the FSA not for life, but for death. By the 20th year, someone should fall apart and leave the historical arena. We cheer for ours. And you?
                  1. -15
                    3 October 2015 13: 48
                    Quote: armored optimist
                    Because there is a struggle with the FSA not for life, but for death.


                    - So I beg you. This "struggle" has not stopped since the victory over Germany in the 45th year.

                    Quote: armored optimist
                    By the 20th year, someone should fall apart and leave the historical arena.


                    - Why exactly the twentieth year? What is the new sacred date?

                    Quote: armored optimist
                    We cheer for ours. And you?


                    - It depends on who is "your".
                    1. +3
                      3 October 2015 13: 58
                      Is it weak to draw a conclusion on the flag and avatar?
                      1. -10
                        3 October 2015 14: 00
                        Quote: armored optimist
                        Is it weak to draw a conclusion on the flag and avatar?


                        - Weak0. The flag is Russian, on the avatar is the launch of a rocket ... no, I have never been Sherlock Holmes.
                      2. +15
                        3 October 2015 15: 25
                        On the avatar, the launch of the S-300, I commanded the division.
                2. +13
                  3 October 2015 13: 30
                  Quote: Haettenschweiler
                  Why Syria has become - suddenly - so important.

                  Suddenly? Well, well .. but what happened 2 years ago (the picture is clickable, and there is a date there):
                3. +14
                  3 October 2015 13: 44
                  If I say that we have gone behind enemy lines and are preemptively solving the strategic task of protecting our southern borders and, as a result, our country, will you understand? In parallel, we are solving a number of other tasks, but all of them are ultimately conditioned by the issues of our (and not someone's) national security. If you don't understand, then I won't explain - think for yourself, look at the map of Eurasia, study the history, tactics and strategy of warfare, the modern press, finally - this stream of crap has everything for understanding - you just need to be able to isolate it ... in short, develop intellectually ... For an adult modern citizen of Russia, the question "why do we need Syria at all" sounds, to put it mildly, childish.
                  1. -17
                    3 October 2015 13: 52
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Suddenly? Well, well .. but what happened 2 years ago (the picture is clickable, and there is a date there):


                    - It’s one thing to rattle with weapons in the form of ships that did not take any part in the hostilities, unless, of course, the large-scale operation to save all refugees is considered. What they really have something to be proud of. A completely different matter is real air strikes and the impending large-scale ground operation.

                    Quote: extremall
                    If I say that we went behind enemy lines and proactively solve the strategic tasks of protecting our southern borders and, as a result, our country, will you understand?


                    - Why now? Even problems with ISIS did not start yesterday or even the day before yesterday. Or were the southern borders irrelevant before that? By the way, the most effective "defense" strategy will be a nuclear strike on all neighboring states, so that stones and iron melt on the radioactive earth. Then definitely no evil will pick up.

                    Quote: extremall
                    At the same time, we are also solving a number of tasks, but all of them are ultimately determined by issues of our, and not someone’s national security.


                    - What tasks, if not secret?

                    Quote: extremall
                    If you don’t understand, I won’t explain - think for yourself, look at the map of Eurasia, study the history, tactics and strategy of waging wars, the modern press at last - this stream of crap has everything to understand - you only need to be able to isolate it ... develop intellectually in short .


                    - Advice at all times is simple. Perhaps, in general, all questions will be answered exactly that way. (:

                    Quote: extremall
                    For an adult modern citizen of Russia, the question "why do we need Syria at all" sounds, to put it mildly, childish.


                    - Don't need this pretentious nonsense. Tear yourself away from your computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never "childish" question.
                    1. +10
                      3 October 2015 14: 09
                      Quote: Haettenschweiler
                      - It's one thing to rattle with weapons in the form of ships that did not take any part in the hostilities ...

                      ... but were quite ready to "accept". Let me remind you:

                      - The US has once again decided to "teach a lesson to the tyrant Assad"
                      - but this is bad luck - for some reason, the Russian fleet got between them and Assad
                      - there were rumors that the staff members were warned - "one missile in the direction of the fleet ..." (that is, the Syrian coast, yes) "will be considered an attack on Russian ships"

                      Somehow Yes

                      Quote: Haettenschweiler
                      Why right now? Problems even with ISIS did not start yesterday or even the day before yesterday. Or before that the southern borders were irrelevant?

                      Including diplomatic training - IMHO, the operation in Syria began to prepare least at the beginning of 2015 ..

                      Quote: Haettenschweiler
                      the most effective strategy of "protection" will be a nuclear strike on all neighboring states, so that stones and iron melt on the radioactive earth

                      ... and welcome to the "hot" phase of the 3rd world thermonuclear .. fool

                      Quote: Haettenschweiler
                      Why did Russia start an operation in Syria

                      The war in Syria has been going on for four years now, EMNIP. That is, the Russian Federation did not "start" anything.

                      The aviation of the Russian Federation provides the ground operation, which is carried out by the Syrian army, Iran and God knows who else is there.

                      No more Yes
                      1. -6
                        3 October 2015 14: 19
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        .. but were quite ready to "accept". Let me remind you:

                        - The US has once again decided to "teach a lesson to the tyrant Assad"
                        - but this is bad luck - for some reason, the Russian fleet got between them and Assad
                        - there were rumors that the staff members were warned - "one missile in the direction of the fleet ..." (that is, the Syrian coast, yes) "will be considered an attack on Russian ships"

                        Somehow


                        - Well, the ships were put there so that the Americans could not start their operation with a strike along the coast and further, inland, with all sorts of "Tomahawks". But you must admit that the Russian Navy could get involved in a battle, or it could not get involved, and they put it there rather to intimidate the Americans, and not for a real war.

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Including diplomatic training - IMHO, the operation in Syria began to be prepared at least at the beginning of 2015 ..


                        - The same question remains: why? Why has Syria become so important that the RF Armed Forces are ready to send soldiers and equipment, aviation and navy there? Assad has been "rotten" for several years, so helping his "regime" is clearly not a priority.


                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        ... and welcome to the "hot" phase of the 3rd world ..


                        - I just developed the thought of the previous comrade to the absolute. Why be limited to half measures?

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        The war in Syria has been going on for four years now, EMNIP. That is, the Russian Federation did not "start" anything.


                        - The war in Syria did without Russian participation. At least direct. I said exactly about the military operation that has just begun.
                      2. +7
                        3 October 2015 14: 28
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        The Russian Navy could get involved in the battle, but it might not get involved, and they put it there rather to frighten the Americans, and not for a real war

                        Thank God that there was no "real war". It might not have been enough.

                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        Why has Syria become so important that the Russian Armed Forces are ready to throw soldiers and equipment, aircraft and the navy there?

                        Hmm .. I repeat once again - it did not "become" .. it was "important".

                        - "soldier and equipment" - no need for dirt. There are no ground forces there. And it will not be, as stated. The protection of the airbase is uncountable, they protect, not the ISIS chase
                        - "aviation" - Duc .. Russia is now the only one who can afford to do this despite the fact that the Stars and their allies will swallow it. And it looks like they have swallowed it - they complain that "the Russian Federation has introduced a no-fly zone." Neither Iran nor anyone else would have done this
                        - "fleet" - and the fleet has exercises there now .. and in general - the fleet has been there for a long time, everyone is used to wink

                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        The war in Syria did without Russian participation. At least direct. I said exactly about the military operation that has just begun

                        Apparently, it became clear that Assad would be squeezed without external assistance. Accordingly, it was decided to provide this assistance.

                        Look ..
                      3. -9
                        3 October 2015 14: 38
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Thank God that there was no "real war". It could not have been enough.


                        - It depends on what instructions were actually given to the Russian Navy. It is likely that in the event of a real conflict, they would have to withdraw. To be honest, I do not think that the turmoil in Syria is worth the war between NATO and Russia. The real reason for such a war could have been a preemptive strike against the ever-expanding North Atlantic Treaty Organization, contrary to the oaths and assurances of "non-expansion" officials. But Syria ...

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Hmm .. I repeat once again - it did not "become" .. it was "important".


                        - She became more important, so to speak. Because the decision on real military assistance to Assad has been made only now, although the war, as you have already noted, has been going on for four years. This means that something has changed a lot. And, yes, the decision on the ground operation has already been made. "There will be only officers and volunteers on contract." This is to the question of
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        no dirt. There are no ground troops there. And it will not be, as stated.


                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Apparently, it became clear that Assad would be squeezed without external assistance. Accordingly, it was decided to provide this assistance.


                        - So, do you think Assad is so important for Moscow? However ... I also agree with this.
                      4. +1
                        3 October 2015 15: 10
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        And yes ground operation decision already made... "There will be only officers and volunteers-contract soldiers"

                        Nah ...

                        Quote: http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/30/only/
                        30.09.2015 “If the decision to use the Russian military contingent in Syria enters the implementation phase, then only officers, as well as contract servicemen, who have expressed a corresponding desire” will take part in the military operation ”
                        ...
                        “The operation to counter military IS will be mainly General Staff, Air Force officers and military-technical personnel for aircraft maintenance»
                        ...
                        As stated in the Federation Council, the head of the presidential administration, Sergei Ivanov, only the Air Force will be involved in the operation, and the Russian military will not participate in the land war
                      5. 0
                        3 October 2015 15: 28
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Nah ...


                        - You are right, upon request for the current date I receive only negative reviews. Apparently, there will not really be a ground operation. And this is good!
                      6. +2
                        3 October 2015 16: 46
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        the expanding North Atlantic Treaty Organization, despite the oaths and assurances of officials about "non-expansion". But Syria

                        The likelihood that they will climb on us from Europe is very small, the wrong people there. But the probability that after Syria and Iran all this ... will attack us is much higher.
                      7. +5
                        3 October 2015 18: 53
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        She became more important, so to speak. Because the decision on real military assistance to Assad was made only now, although the war, as you have already noticed, has been going on for four years. So something has changed a lot.

                        I think there are several reasons
                        The first, naturally, is geopolitics. The Israeli "comrades" claim that over the four years in Syria, the accumulated weapons, ammunition, spare parts, etc. have been practically used up. Resources are allegedly spent by 90, or even 95%. A little more - and Assad will have nothing to fight with. And in order to maintain Russia's prestige in the BV, it is necessary to support Assad by providing him with assistance, and to give someone in the teeth. For example, the Qatari and Saudi (possibly American) fosterlings. If you don't show strength, they won't respect you.
                        The second reason is related to geopolitics, but it consists in showing the real striking power of the army, in particular, the airborne forces - and their Americans generally do not take into account, though in words.
                        Like that - look what we can do. And they give the corresponding picture. The propaganda effect is evident - in Berlin and Paris, even demonstrations in support of Russia's actions in Syria, and in thousands of people, which is simply surprising.
                        The third reason is to train the army in real combat conditions, and even in relatively greenhouse conditions, when the Syrians bear the main load on the confrontation on earth. Indeed, sudden combat readiness checks, air darts and tank biathlon are, of course, good, but real military operations are better.
                        And the fourth - or third and a half - reason is addressed to Europeans, both in the EU and very close, southern and native. Think gentlemen and panov.
                        And they were already thinking - the reaction is obvious. bully
                        And like a joke in the end - looking at the actions of the Russian military in Syria, ordinary Europeans and Ukrainians began to realize that yesterday’s tractor drivers and miners had really broken the Ukrainian army in Donbass. Yes
                        That's something like ... hi
                      8. +5
                        3 October 2015 19: 02
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        - It depends on what instructions were actually given to the Russian Navy. It is likely that in the event of a real conflict, they would have to withdraw. To be honest, I do not think that the turmoil in Syria is worth the war between NATO and Russia. The real reason for such a war could have been a preemptive strike against the ever-expanding North Atlantic Treaty Organization, contrary to the oaths and assurances of "non-expansion" officials.

                        Have you forgotten about Crimea and Ukraine? Perhaps ours could have slipped back then, but decided now - that means there were reasons, remember about Mistral and 1,2 billion euros, which maybe not all, but got back. About the banking system, which is untied from a visa and a master card - there are many reasons - it was impossible to get into a tough confrontation with the United States and the EU, now the EU with its headache will certainly not get into Syria, and the United States does not like to fight with its own hands.
                      9. +2
                        3 October 2015 16: 40
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler

                        - I just developed the thought of the previous comrade to the absolute. Why be limited to half measures?

                        Yes you are a maniac, my friend! belay laughing
                        If the whole planet is in ruins, then live then where? fool
                        There is no other Earth in your pocket. request
                      10. MMX
                        +4
                        3 October 2015 18: 27
                        - The war in Syria did without Russian participation. At least direct. I said exactly about the military operation that has just begun.


                        So I’m guessing: the war in Syria has been going on for 4 years, and why did refugees just flood into the EU now? request
                      11. +3
                        3 October 2015 18: 33
                        Quote: MMX
                        from and I’m wondering: the war in Syria has been going on for 4 years, and why did refugees just flood into the EU now?

                        At first, Turkey did not banally let out refugees, but now it just choked on them. But even so, Syrian refugees make up 30-40% of those arriving in Europe. The range of the rest is extremely wide - from Afghans and Iraqis to Somalis, Ethiopians, Sudanese, Chadians, Libyans.
                        And in Europe, Albanians sometimes join them, mowing down under the Syrians and counting on a freebie.
                      12. +1
                        3 October 2015 21: 05
                        Quote: Haettenschweiler
                        Why has Syria become so important that the Russian Armed Forces are ready to throw soldiers and equipment, aircraft and the navy there?

                        The reason for the start of our operation in Syria? The pressure of ISIS on B. Assad sharply increased. He began not to have time to answer in all places where attacks were carried out against him. The quantity turned into quality. The time came X. And off ...
                      13. +2
                        4 October 2015 02: 46
                        Quote: mervino2007
                        The reason for the start of our operation in Syria? The pressure of ISIS on B. Assad sharply increased.


                        Not only this. We can say that the fetus has ripened. Under other conditions in the Russian Federation, such a bunch of shit would be dumped for this feint, and they’re sitting ... they are being swallowed.
                        And all why ... A wave of settlers has heated up passions in Europe and ordinary people do not want a stupid explanation - Putin is to blame. ISIS has grown to immodest sizes and held several demonstrations, convinced everyone of its cruelty. Well, probably one more thing. The United States ... the government ... there is simply no money for unplanned actions. Everything .. the state has nothing to pay for its obligations. It is still unknown how things will turn out with the next increase in the limit of public debt.
                        So .. everything is in the hands of the Russian military. Not only the VKS, but also those who are working on plans for ground operations.
                    2. +2
                      3 October 2015 18: 21
                      Lord, how nice it is to see people who do not yell in unison, but think in any way on their own.
                4. +4
                  3 October 2015 16: 44
                  Everything is simple because our strategic, national interests + ship service port is the only one with access to the Mediterranean Sea.
                  Arranged or still add ?? smile
        3. +2
          3 October 2015 12: 32
          I wonder where the Chinese aircraft carrier hid in the Mediterranean Sea. Something has not been heard about him in the news for a long time, or was it a glitch?
          1. +2
            3 October 2015 13: 31
            Quote: Designer 1
            or was it a glitch?

            It was a fake
        4. -1
          3 October 2015 12: 47
          not right my friend is not a vein, careful God takes care. That's it!
        5. +2
          3 October 2015 17: 25
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          And what is there in general called "Moscow"? Does ISIS have an assault aircraft, or have they acquired a couple of battleships?


          this is so that their aviation suddenly did not suddenly appear immediately of the 5th generation.
      2. +5
        3 October 2015 13: 43
        Quote: Dmitry Toderese
        In the B. East, ISIS is the "Islamic" state of Iraq and the Levant
        In the Southwest UGIL -
        If they finish, then the Russian bear ISIS can turn into coal, and ISIS into a grill. Therefore, of course, they can test Misha’s patience, but only until a certain point.
      3. +2
        3 October 2015 16: 31
        Quote: Dmitry Toderese
        Terrorist states have taxed us. What to do?

        Extinguish! angry
        Political and economic methods, and if they are not enough "War is politics by other means!"
        That is, do not calm down? In turnips to them! angry
    6. +14
      3 October 2015 12: 08
      Quote: seregatara1969
      prepared well! there will be a lesson to the Americans

      They are already afraid in advance.
      An interview with ex-US Colonel Jack Jacobs appeared in a Saudi newspaper yesterday, who said that the United States could not interfere with the Russians in Syria, since Russia had established a "closed zone" over it.
      This means that any military aircraft entering the combat zone can be shot down, as a threat to the Russian Air Force.

      At the same time, American sources claim that the Russian Federation established a closed zone over the entire airspace of Syria, in addition, approaches to the air base in Latakia are also closed from the sea to a distance of 100-250 km from the coast of the Russian fleet’s exercise. Thus, the United States cannot even conduct air reconnaissance of the forces of the Russian Federation, deployed air defense systems.

      A source in the military circles of the American contingent in Turkey reported that aircraft approaching close to the Russian forces were illuminated by radar, while the source of the light could not be determined.

      "The Russians made it clear that they can see everything, and it is not worth going closer, otherwise they will be shot down."

      "To be honest, we were surprised by Russia's air defense systems, most likely there are the latest S-400 systems. I have no more ideas."
      Further away from me. Apparently, the "diplomatic patience" that Obama shows in making concessions to Russia is not entirely diplomatic, but caused by the utter fiasco of the US armed forces, which by bombing the Papuans have forgotten what it means to deal with a real enemy armed with modern aviation and anti-aircraft systems.

      The United States is trying to save face by pretending that they agree not to interfere with Russia in Syria, but in fact, they simply cannot interfere with Russia in Syria, since they are more likely to interfere with themselves, having lost their aircraft.
      BRAT ARAB
      Today 02: 31
      1. -14
        3 October 2015 13: 01
        It is ridiculous of course to read retired military pearls.
        They were kicked in the butt long ago, but they still think that they are in "business."
        Yes, and it seems like planes in Syria continue to fly, I don’t know what the old man came up with there)
        1. +2
          3 October 2015 13: 40
          Quote: Patriot22
          Yes, and it seems like planes in Syria continue to fly, I don’t know what the old man came up with there)

          I am sure that he talked about part of the territory controlled by the Syrian Arab army. There, by the way, and civilian sides fly. However, the coalition’s air forces are dumb there - yes, the sky is closed for them.
      2. Don
        +2
        3 October 2015 13: 11
        I would not agree that the Americans are not able to create problems for us. They are masters of all sorts of dirty tricks and a downed Boeing over the Donbass is an example of this. Ours clearly took this into account when planning the operation in Syria, and they just won’t get away with it.
    7. +6
      3 October 2015 12: 08
      So aerial attacks on our planes and helicopters are almost impossible
      Does ISIS already have combat aircraft? Or are they afraid of "sworn friends"? These gentlemen from overseas are great experts in raking in the heat with someone else's hands!
      1. -9
        3 October 2015 12: 10
        Quote: Dembel 77
        These gentlemen from across the ocean are great experts in raking the heat with the wrong hands!


        - That's just in this case - no. Now the USAAF is fighting there, and not the British with the Germans. Surprisingly.
        1. +14
          3 October 2015 12: 33
          Who would have fought with us like that!
          Combat mission :: "Find two excavators in the desert and bomb them, on the way back, gain an altitude of 11 thousand, put the controls on autopilot and not be afraid of anything, no one will touch you, you don't have to wear diapers. After completing the task, 2 weeks off and Purple Heart after the end of the business trip and rotation to the States "
      2. +2
        3 October 2015 13: 04
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Or are they afraid of "sworn friends"?

        Warn. Politely. And then they decided to conduct air reconnaissance, you know.
      3. 0
        4 October 2015 00: 50
        Absolutely standard gain group, armament is not superfluous in war!
    8. 0
      5 October 2015 18: 46
      Amerikisa on a gilyak!
    9. 0
      5 October 2015 22: 08
      Picture on the grudge of the day
  2. +22
    3 October 2015 11: 56
    Good luck and success to our. - and something else didn’t appear.





  3. +12
    3 October 2015 11: 56
    there seems to be more and "mirages" caught up feel
    you wouldn’t go to Syria for a walk ...
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 12: 18
      Andryukha. And do our naval officers there in Syria have anything to eat for? feel
      1. +3
        3 October 2015 12: 19
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        And do our naval officers there in Syria have anything to eat for?

        aha Yes
  4. +15
    3 October 2015 11: 57
    A subtle hint of fat circumstances. The game went big. Gently set the no-fly zone and the boundaries of the water area.
    1. +19
      3 October 2015 12: 03
      Quote: Kil 31
      A subtle hint of fat circumstances. The game went big. Gently set the no-fly zone and the boundaries of the water area.
      I'm from a mobile phone, check if it is true.
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 12: 22
        The original source goes to the site of a housewife, in English and cnn did not find anything. Maybe someone will look better
        1. +2
          3 October 2015 12: 36
          Quote: Patriot22
          The original source goes to the site of a housewife, in English and cnn did not find anything. Maybe someone will look better

          Same thing - gamnosites alone.
          In theory, the A-10 does not fit into the American concept of the use of aviation, it should not be there, most Americans use the F-22.
          1. 0
            3 October 2015 21: 29
            Quote: GRAY
            In theory, the A-10 does not fit into the American concept of the use of aviation, there should not be them there

            A-10s are available there (Saudi news).
      2. 0
        3 October 2015 12: 56
        The fake is similar.
  5. +28
    3 October 2015 11: 57
    Strengthening our group of forces and ensuring its security is good.
    1. +16
      3 October 2015 12: 19
      As I understand it, our no-fly zone was made in Syria, in order to avoid the so-called "accidental" flight of our dear "partners"
  6. +6
    3 October 2015 11: 57
    So aerial attacks on our planes and helicopters are almost impossible

    It feels like they were preparing so seriously. In addition, it is unlikely that the so-called aviation. the coalition would dare to launch an air strike, even the "wrong" one.
  7. +2
    3 October 2015 11: 57
    Will it cover the air group? .. In general, these planes always covered the ships, but not vice versa ... In this situation, the cruiser can cover only the air base. And then only from the sea ...

    And as I see the repair of "Moscow" (by the way, long-planned) is postponed indefinitely ...
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 12: 21
      Dear ministers, but at least one of you will be able to argue that I am not right? .. Or are you, like a small-bribed infantry, according to herd instinct? .. wink
      1. +6
        3 October 2015 12: 58
        do not even hope you fell under the stern hand of "patriots" rejoice that they can not put up to the wall, in my next article the minuses of the PC are approaching fifty dollars .. also encroached on the sacred laughing
      2. +3
        3 October 2015 13: 33
        I agree. They've already been killed. People are too lazy to turn on the brain. Any air defense system has a "dome" of defeat, it is desirable that the covered object was in its center. And with what edge does He cover Latakia? In any case, its own air wing will intercept on long-range lines. In vain did they put fighters there? soldier
        1. +1
          3 October 2015 15: 35
          I agree. They've already been killed. People are too lazy to turn on the brain. Any air defense system has a "dome" of defeat, it is desirable that the covered object was in its center. And with what edge does He cover Latakia?

          The ships are equipped with sufficiently powerful radars that can cover the air base in the sense of early warning. I somehow think so ... hi
      3. -3
        3 October 2015 21: 57
        your face on the avatar is hostile. So the hotsta minus can be slammed by someone who could not resist. This cruiser can block the floor of the sea and simultaneously land more than a dozen aircraft. Rejoice that it is not under repair.
    2. +1
      3 October 2015 12: 22
      How dare you infringe upon the holy ...
      1. +2
        3 October 2015 16: 16
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        How dare you infringe upon the holy ...

        This is not the ability to think with your own head on your own? .. Yes, this is really blasphemy! .. smile
        Quote: marlin1203
        People are too lazy to turn on the brain

        In this case, there is nothing to include due to the lack thereof ... wink
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        you fell under the harsh hand of "patriots", be glad that they cannot put

        Alas, it is not the Americans or the Chinese with the liberals who will destroy Russia, but a dumb herd of urry patriots ...
    3. +2
      3 October 2015 14: 17
      Quote: Chicot 1
      Will it cover the air group? .. In general, these planes always covered the ships, but not vice versa ... In this situation, the cruiser can cover only the air base. And then only from the sea ...

      And as I see the repair of "Moscow" (by the way, long-planned) is postponed indefinitely

      It depends on what missiles they have - but 70 or 90 kilometers by land, they can cover.
      It’s another matter that our non-existent full-fledged aircraft carrier (just about the Mistral simply wouldn’t keep silent) would have just prevented - I remember the main argument against it - are we not going to fight abroad ??
      Well, remembering the experience of the Yankees, as well as the heroic defenders of Sevastopol (I understand that the bad neighborhood) is a good old battleship that can grind with the main caliber into fine dust everything that is closer than 40 km to the base by land.
      1. 0
        3 October 2015 15: 58
        Quote: lelikas
        It depends on what missiles they have - but 70 or 90 kilometers by land, they can cover

        For a start, guess what is more threatening to our aviation there, "in place"? .. Hypothetical aircraft or completely non-hepothetical MANPADS, which IS militants probably have in stock ...
        Further, if there is a danger of a collision with the aircraft of a likely enemy, then why is there no such component necessary in such cases as cover fighters? .. They even happened to be in Afghanistan, when flights for military use were carried out in close proximity to the borders of Pakistan and Iran ... Fighters in this case will be much more effective than cruiser air defense missiles (even in conjunction with ground-based complexes), because even with the fact of their presence they can cool hot heads excessively ...

        And I repeat once again - from the moment of their appearance, it is the planes that cover the ships, groups and formations of the fleet, but not vice versa. But ships to cover the coastal facilities have been and are involved repeatedly. And here is just such a case. The whole question is, what kind of narrow-minded person came up with the "attack on the air defense of an attack aircraft cruiser"? ..
        1. +4
          3 October 2015 16: 54
          Quote: Chicot 1
          Fighters in this case will be much more effective than cruiser air defense missiles

          Ships most likely play the role of a radar patrol carried out at sea, since they have powerful equipment for this, and the reaction time of a ship ready for battle is less than the fighter’s lift from an airfield. hi
        2. -1
          4 October 2015 14: 55
          Quote: Chicot 1
          To begin with, think about what is more threatening to our aviation there, "in place" ?.

          And why did I write the last four lines?
  8. +6
    3 October 2015 11: 57
    There should be a reliable cover ... (this operation has been preparing for more than a year) In vain they climb ...! A fake is not a fake, but attempts are and will be ... We will immediately wet!
    1. -3
      3 October 2015 12: 39
      Do not tell me more precisely, you probably know: how many years the operation was prepared? And ... will you personally wet?
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 13: 37
        Quote: evfrat
        Do not tell me more precisely, you probably know: how many years the operation was prepared? And ... will you personally wet?

        As much as in the Crimea. The main thing is not time, but thoroughness. As long as ours operate without a hitch, then we'll see.
        1. +2
          3 October 2015 15: 01
          In general, I am not interested in time. Here, simply a specialist in inserting pictures and videos shines with knowledge of information, claiming that: "(this operation has been prepared for more than one year)"
          And how many are in Crimea, by the way?
    2. +1
      3 October 2015 12: 57
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We will immediately wet!

      Are you already there ??? Good luck ! hi
      1. +4
        3 October 2015 15: 02
        He here around the clock "wets" his own, vysy.s.a.ya. they have tons of copy-paste on their heads.
        1. +5
          3 October 2015 16: 03
          Quote: evfrat
          He here around the clock "wets" his own, vysy.s.a.ya. they have tons of copy-paste on their heads.


          Yes, leave you MIKHAN alone! He has interesting pictures (and where does he get them? request , do not prick!), you can laugh with him from the heart! And you are evil laughing, A bayonet, for example, is a specialist in "directions" (he knows about everyone who knows where to go, but with addresses! Postman Pechkin opposite him is a variegated goldfinch!) And the fact that no one is openly indignant at your address does not mean that you are white and fluffy ... In the end you don't like it, don't read it, minus it - your right! Incidentally, for Jen Psaki MIKHAN also wrote "Ibyvdul" many times - there is a result!winked Leave the man alone! am
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          2. 0
            3 October 2015 17: 53
            Quote: Dym71
            Yes, leave you MIKHAN alone!

            Quote: Dym71
            you can laugh with him from the heart! And you are evil

            Who touches him? This is a matter of taste - who likes the theater and who likes the ditties in the beer hall under the balalaika. smile
            Quote: Dym71
            A bayonet, for example, is a specialist in "directions" (he knows about everyone who knows where to go, but with addresses!

            Let it be rightly praised ... winked
            1. 0
              4 October 2015 11: 18
              This is a fool's bullet - Bayonet done laughing good
  9. 0
    3 October 2015 11: 59
    That’s why they won’t hit the positions of the needles from ships and submarines?
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 12: 04
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      That’s why they won’t hit the positions of the needles from ships and submarines?

      Isil mixed up with the local population. If they were separate, then the igil would have been gone in a couple of hours!)
    2. +2
      3 October 2015 13: 15
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      That’s why they won’t hit the positions of the needles from ships and submarines?

      Because a bomb is cheaper than a rocket.
  10. +2
    3 October 2015 12: 01
    Nevertheless, a beautiful and powerful ship goes through the Bosphorus! The author of the photo is my respect!
  11. +6
    3 October 2015 12: 01
    "Moscow" will stretch far to the areas of direct strike operations of our VKS. And the base - yes, under the umbrella easily. Only now Moscow will not be there forever, there would be several divisions of S-300/400 ground-based divisions.
  12. +1
    3 October 2015 12: 06
    Let us hope that land-based air defense elements in the immediate vicinity of the air base are also available.
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 14: 23
      Well, like a couple of panzerov Americans discerned ...
  13. +3
    3 October 2015 12: 09
    This is more of a demonstration than a necessity. I do not believe that "partners" will dare to strike ours from the air. This is so that reconnaissance flew more cautiously, not going deep. The radars on the ships are powerful, they probably reach Italy.
  14. +3
    3 October 2015 12: 13
    Nice to read! An integrated approach to conducting any military operations is definitely pleasing. If Crimea could be measured as a one-time successful operation, now the system is already visible. laughing
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 14: 36
      For three days it’s not possible to discern anything .. we will wait for pah, pah ..
  15. +5
    3 October 2015 12: 13
    Quote: barclay
    Let us hope that land-based air defense elements in the immediate vicinity of the air base are also available.

    Of course have. the Americans have already stated that there were attempts to enter the protected area, where they were immediately "spotted".
    "The USA cannot interfere with the Russians in Syria, since the Russians have closed the sky

    An interview with ex-US Colonel Jack Jacobs appeared in a Saudi newspaper yesterday, who said that the United States could not interfere with the Russians in Syria, since Russia had established a "closed zone" over it.

    This means that any military aircraft entering the combat zone can be shot down, as a threat to the Russian Air Force.

    At the same time, American sources claim that the Russian Federation established a closed zone over the entire airspace of Syria, in addition, approaches to the air base in Latakia are also closed from the sea to a distance of 100-250 km from the coast of the Russian fleet’s exercise. Thus, the United States cannot even conduct air reconnaissance of the forces of the Russian Federation, deployed air defense systems.

    A source in the military circles of the American contingent in Turkey reported that aircraft approaching close to the Russian forces were illuminated by radar, while the source of the light could not be determined.

    "The Russians made it clear that they can see everything, and it is not worth going closer, otherwise they will be shot down."

    "To be honest, we were surprised by Russia's air defense systems, most likely there are the latest S-400 systems. I have no more ideas."
    Further away from me. Apparently, the "diplomatic patience" that Obama shows when making concessions to Russia is not entirely diplomatic, but caused by the utter fiasco of the US armed forces, which, bombing the Papuans, forgot what it was like to deal with a real enemy armed with modern aviation and anti-aircraft systems. "
    http://x-true.info/26154-ssha-ne-mogut-meshat-russkim-v-sirii-tak-kak-russkie-za
    kryli-nebo.html
  16. 0
    3 October 2015 12: 17
    YES AND SO, no one will stick
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 13: 21
      Quote: andrew075
      YES AND SO, no one will stick

      Well, ISIS sabotage groups can quite often try to climb into the air base ... yes there we have a battalion of marines with reinforcement .... that's what this reinforcement means we will find out when they dare to poke around .... and there we will bomb daily and daily martyrs ... I think if this continues this way, after a week the Syrian Armed Forces will go on a liberation attack with the formation of a boiler with a large group in its middle .... although I'm now a couch strategist with a roach and beer ((
  17. 0
    3 October 2015 12: 17
    Quote: seregatara1969
    prepared well! there will be a lesson to the Americans

    Just in case, all of a sudden the Americans mix up again and start to bomb something else.
  18. +4
    3 October 2015 12: 21
    For mamont5

    fiasco of the US armed forces that bombed the Papuans what it was like to deal with a real adversary armed with modern aviation and air defense systems

    Here you noticed very correctly. They got used to flying with impunity, knowing that the air defense systems are either already suppressed, or there are no serious ones, so they "lost their scent." And here even the radar "flare" causes a very bad feeling.
  19. -16
    3 October 2015 12: 26
    Well, yes to the Ukrainians did not climb so dragged into Syria.
    But what about the promise of our rulers that only the Air Force will be used? The Navy has already been pulled up, it will soon turn out that the Syrian Armed Forces are not able to protect our bases and will tighten the landing, and as the landing will be without tanks, then there will be tanks, artillery, RZSO and the soul will rush to heaven.
    Already, Iraq asks for help in the fight against igil ...
    So that we are stuck for the most I can’t ...
    And the fact that Nato wants to attack us in Syria I really doubt their gut is thin.
    1. +7
      3 October 2015 12: 53
      I don’t know what region you live in, "general", but I think that you have never seen a "militant" live, you only know about their atrocities from the media, you and your loved ones did not suffer from this beast, so you reason. And "we can’t get stuck" when the "bearded ones" are at our borders. Then to all of us Chechnya and Golyanovo and Kashirka will seem like "flowers of paradise" and there will be no allies around - ONE FOR ONE WITH THIS POOL WE WILL BE ABLE! HOW DO YOU, KIND, SUCH AN OPTION?
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    3. +1
      3 October 2015 13: 02
      Quote: Alexey M
      And the fact that Nato wants to attack us in Syria I really doubt their gut is thin.

      Maybe it's still not in the gut, but in the head?
  20. -1
    3 October 2015 12: 29
    GRKR "Moscow" will provide very good air defense! That's for sure!
    If at least someone dares to go to Moscow, then I am sure that all 16 Basalts will immediately cool the fervor of the roast!
    Yes, and as it were, there are Mirages, and all the watchmen, Now I would fit Peter the Great there, the sky will be closed thoroughly!
  21. +1
    3 October 2015 12: 39
    Quote: herruvim
    . It wasn’t tasty, but it was enough

    Huge plus, I haven’t laughed so long, a great start to the weekend laughing lol good
  22. +1
    3 October 2015 12: 41
    All is well ... But where will ISIS get an air wing to strike at our base from the air? They will surely find fools with Kalash and something else to attack from the ground. And here I would like not "Moscow", but the battleship "Missouri", or the motorized rifle regiment of the SA (Soviet Army) with artillery support in the form of the "Gradov" battalion with the task of taking up defenses and ensuring 25-30 km of inaccessibility of the VP for artillery fire (although I don't think that ISIS has artillery that spits 30 miles away)
  23. 0
    3 October 2015 12: 43
    Quote: Dmitry Toderese
    Terrorist states have taxed us. What to do?

    "Or maybe we will zhahnom comrade warrant officer, we will definitely zhahnem, comrade soldier, the whole world is in dust" DMB.
  24. 0
    3 October 2015 12: 48
    Moscow has a long arm. Where you need to reach.
  25. +10
    3 October 2015 12: 50
    Russia is not going to "sit" on gas and oil .... We will avenge our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ...!
    1. -9
      3 October 2015 13: 04
      When did we manage to save Serbia? How was Novorossiya defended? If not for instructions from Moscow, then the self-proclaimed republics of Ukraine have grown to the border with Moldova.
      1. 0
        3 October 2015 18: 28
        No need to think with your head, it is very harmful. They said that we saved everyone and defeated everyone - which means that it is so.
        1. -2
          3 October 2015 19: 06
          So do not think, since it is harmful laughing
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      3. +2
        3 October 2015 20: 15
        Quote: killganoff
        about the self-proclaimed republics of Ukraine to the border with Moldova has grown.

        That's just not necessary .. okay? Remind me how many fought for the WCT? And how many kilometers from Donetsk is the demarcation line? The fact that the detachments (and then they were detachments) of the militias after Ilovaisk left already for Mariupol is not enough, which means. LDNR simply had no strength or further plan.
    2. +2
      4 October 2015 03: 37
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia is not going to "sit" on gas and oil .... We will avenge our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ...!


      Meehan, do you have a demotivator? - For Sberbank, for Gazprom, for Surgutneftegas, for Russian Railways .. laughing
  26. -2
    3 October 2015 13: 00
    The main enemy is not yet in the air, but on the ground, the tactics of militants are small groups that (cannot be ruled out) can go to the airfield and fire (and not necessarily ISIS), the Saudis "threaten", which means there may be supplies of modern anti-aircraft missiles, I am sure they will try us "to the teeth" until they get themselves on the "teeth"
  27. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 04
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    - It is clear, in your opinion, we are preparing for a "small, victorious war" directly with the USA. In Syria. In Ukraine, we have already won the USA, now we are in a hurry to win in Syria.

    Unfortunately, some people only understand the demonstration of power ...
    Will it cover the air group? .. In general, these planes always covered the ships, but not vice versa ... In this situation, the cruiser can cover only the air base. And then only from the sea ...

    And what, in this case, hinders doing the opposite? And why only from the sea? The sky is one. wink
    S-300F allows you to control the sky, worse than ground, but still.
    As I understand it, the S-300/400 will not be allowed to install / deliver to us, therefore naval air defense systems were used.
  28. 0
    3 October 2015 13: 06
    http://rusvesna.su/news/1443863063
  29. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 09
    Yes, yes, just to cover the airfield from the air!
    Political diplomats - so subtly trolling the "conditional enemy"

    According to his estimation, the cruiser “Moscow”, which heads the ship group, is armed with “sufficiently powerful anti-aircraft complexes: long-range air defense systems С-300М and short-range air defense systems“ Osa-MA ””.

    Laughing to tears.

    Guards missile the cruiser Moscow is the Russian missile cruiser, the lead ship of the 1164 Atlant project. Intended for striking enemy large surface ships, provides combat stability of ship anti-submarine groups. Air defense of remote connections, fire support for the landing.

    Rather, of course I agree. But, I think, not only air defense.

    Quote: LeeDer
    C-300 / 400 will not be allowed to put us there, so they deployed naval air defense systems.
  30. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 14
    And how far does ship artillery strike
    or is Moskva purely rocket-based?
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 17: 11
      Quote: Kurou
      And how far does ship artillery strike


      AK-130 of Moscow hits 23 km
  31. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 15
    Damn it, we only have a committee of soldier’s mothers receiving grants and shouting something that wouldn’t touch our children. from the top floor.
  32. 0
    3 October 2015 13: 23
    Normal tactical move
  33. -11
    3 October 2015 13: 24
    interestingly, they do not use the "Admiral Kuznetsov", although it would be quite logical and more convenient to deliver the aircraft with an aircraft carrier, but there are no necessary aircraft suitable for basing on an aircraft carrier, and the pilots trained on the fingers can be counted.
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 17: 23
      Quote: Wheels
      interestingly, they do not use the "Admiral Kuznetsov", although it would be quite logical and more convenient to deliver the aircraft with an aircraft carrier, but there are no necessary aircraft suitable for basing on an aircraft carrier, and the pilots trained on the fingers can be counted.

      Aircraft for ship and airfield use are somewhat different. Why then use ship sushi from land, we don’t have so many of them, and motor resources will be worked out, again use experienced pilots, where they can handle them, and land ones are also not economically justified.
      "Anyone can be of greater benefit when used in the right place and situation."
  34. 0
    3 October 2015 13: 37
    serious argument you will not say anything
  35. 0
    3 October 2015 13: 58
    If necessary, the Russian air group in Syria will cover the "Moscow"
    Well yes! With its 16 "air defense" launchers.
  36. +1
    3 October 2015 14: 34
    Quote: Wheels
    Interestingly, the "Admiral Kuznetsov" is not involved, although it would be quite logical and more convenient to deliver the aircraft by an aircraft carrier.

    Because it’s not your strategy to play, transport such ships — these are whole operations.
  37. +1
    3 October 2015 14: 36
    Quote: Haettenschweiler


    - Don't need this pretentious nonsense. Tear yourself away from your computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never "childish" question.

    Don't need that pretentious nonsense about our streets. Ask the same question, but about the USA, on the streets of some Illinois. You're fucking crazy about the speed with which your faith in "freedom and democracy in light elf" will melt away.
    1. -1
      3 October 2015 19: 26
      Quote: Earnest
      Ask the same question, but about the USA, on the streets of some Illinois

      Or Ferguson populated predominantly by blacks
  38. +1
    3 October 2015 15: 54
    Quote: VadimSt
    If necessary, the Russian air group in Syria will cover the "Moscow"
    Well yes! With its 16 "air defense" launchers.

    I think that the ammunition is not limited to sixteen launches, there is still a thread in the holds Yes
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 17: 25
      Quote: rvsn90
      I think that the ammunition is not limited to sixteen launches, there is still a thread in the holds

      Recharge only on the naval base, unfortunately request sad
    2. +1
      3 October 2015 17: 27
      Quote: rvsn90
      I think that the ammunition is not limited to sixteen launches, there is still a thread in the holds

      Recharge only on the naval base, unfortunately request sad
  39. +1
    3 October 2015 16: 05
    - Don't need this pretentious nonsense. Tear yourself away from your computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never a "childish" question. [/ Quote]
    Don't need that pretentious nonsense about our streets. Ask the same question, but about the USA, on the streets of some Illinois. You're fucking crazy about the speed with which your faith in "freedom and democracy in light elf" will melt away. [/ Quote]

    Yes, yes ... what kind of "root crop" democracy ??? such a concept, in its direct understanding, does not exist for a lot of years, if at all such an action took place in history ?!

    P.S. The people in D.Greece were considered people. "Greek-born", and the rest of the "cattle", if I'm confusing something, then give a link to the educational program! wassat
    1. +4
      3 October 2015 16: 08
      Quote: rvsn90
      The people in D. Greece were considered people. "Greek-born", and the rest are "cattle"

      Yeah .. and also -

      Quote: Anecdote
      A citizen of Nepal is considered a person "made" by a Nepalese and a Nepalese

      laughing
  40. -2
    3 October 2015 17: 21
    Quote: Chicot 1
    Alas, it is not the Americans or the Chinese with the liberals who will destroy Russia, but a dumb herd of urry patriots ...

    Nothing, but you, truth-tellers, will then save her, revive from the ashes, and Mother Russia will shine without patriots.
  41. +3
    3 October 2015 17: 47
    To prepare for such an operation is not to trade with "stools".
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  43. 0
    3 October 2015 21: 08
    A question to the experts, I myself am not very good - is it possible to equip the Onyx and Caliber KR with special ammunition? If so, can you fit at least an RTO of the "Grad Uglich" type with such "gifts" to Tartus?
    1. 0
      4 October 2015 18: 50
      Quote: alexej123
      Can Tartus fit at least RTOs like "Grad Uglich" with such "gifts"?

      Do you seriously want to use gifts? What about condemning Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
  44. 0
    3 October 2015 21: 41
    I am proud of our army, its commander in chief. The naval reserve officer himself. Well done. Keep it up.
  45. 0
    4 October 2015 09: 42
    Quote: Allex28

    Can anyone answer?

    Remember the DEAD words of Alexander the 3rd: Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. "Well, now the third has appeared, the VKS.
    Even here this liberal guano climbs out, he asked himself, he answered himself (your creation is wonderful, Lord). But seriously, if we don’t get them there, then in a year or two they will start hosting in our south and then Outskirts will seem like a thief with these thugs (in the literal sense of the word).
  46. 0
    4 October 2015 09: 44
    In principle, the GRKR can shoot through half of Syria with Granites or Basalts (he forgot that he is now on it). So, besides aviation, there is still someone to say hello to the bearded men from Sevastopol laughing
  47. 0
    4 October 2015 16: 50
    here's a "sea katyusha" for IG ordered, get it and sign ... bully
  48. 0
    4 October 2015 20: 32
    Quote: Allex28
    Quote: Allex28

    Found "allies" while itching in the ass,

    Maybe someone will answer? Or how? Tikhushki have piled up and let's push the buttons. At least someone will be able to justify their disagreement?

    Not minus, but I think that you are wrong. There is no reason for your application. In what year did the MTO point appear in Tartus? Did the Syrians show any signs of hostility towards the USSR, towards Russia? What then are your speculations based on? To blame indiscriminately is worthless.
  49. -1
    4 October 2015 20: 37
    Quote: Allex28
    Remember the abhorrent words of Alexander 3rd

    You see, Alex, this turns out to be your habit. Those who do not agree with your opinion are "wretched." Can't you make a mistake? Maybe you made a mistake or people don’t like the tone of your statements. You rush to extremes and are not self-critical enough, therefore, catch a bunch of minuses.
  50. 0
    5 October 2015 11: 03
    And our fellows, avenged Palmyra ... after all, a UNESCO site. winked
  51. 0
    5 October 2015 22: 13
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    - Don't need this pretentious nonsense. Tear yourself away from your computer, go outside, pretend to be a reporter and ask random people: "Why did Russia start an operation in Syria." Never "childish" question.

    During the liberal revolution, more than one generation of practically illiterate people has grown up in our country, turned into chewing and drinking humanoids, who, if they are not given beer in time, are ready to jump like on a Ruin. Nowadays there are a lot of men in their 40s with the minds of a teenager. You can’t interview everyone, and you’ll rather interview your own kind and hear only them too! Try to implement your idea yourself. But it has long been known that the pig that only looks into the trough is the first to be slaughtered! If you don't trust people here, then change the site! You seem to be on your way to Censor - there will be countless friends there! hi

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