Sands on the meeting of the "Norman Four"

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According to the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, at the meeting in the Elysée Palace the leaders of the “Norman four” countries “checked the clock” on the most important points of the Minsk agreements. Comments Peskov leads the channel LifeNews.



They agreed at the meeting that “all the Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretations,” said a spokesman.

The participants of the meeting "noted positive developments in the situation in Ukraine, in particular, in the matter of signing a document on the withdrawal of weapons in caliber to 100 mm." Challenge should begin on Friday night to Saturday.

The parties also talked about “support for the OSCE mission, expansion of its mandate and humanitarian aspects,” said Peskov.

They discussed topics related to elections in the self-proclaimed republics and amnesty.

In addition, attention was paid to the issue of the Ukrainian pilot Savchenko. In connection with this, Vladimir Putin said that this topic “can be discussed only after the court pronounces the verdict”.

Peskov expressed confidence that the negotiations on Ukraine will continue. According to him, "in November, as expected, a meeting of foreign ministers will be held." In addition, the “daily contacts of presidential aides in international affairs” will be continued.

In turn, Petro Poroshenko, at the end of the meeting in Paris, announced the beginning of the withdrawal of weapons from the demarcation line in the Donbass.

“The withdrawal will begin from tomorrow (from October 3). It now remains to transfer the coordinates, a list of those weapons that will be removed. We agreed on the need for OSCE observers to access the entire territory of the region. "Norman Four" decided that the withdrawal of light weapons will occur within 41 day "- said the Ukrainian president.

Negotiations of the heads of state of the "Norman Four" (Russia, France, Germany and Ukraine), held yesterday at the Elysee Palace, lasted about 4,5 hours. Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin left immediately, and did not participate in the press conference.
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  1. +30
    3 October 2015 11: 32
    Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin immediately left, and did not participate in the press conference.
    Krasava! right gesture! Not a match!
    Showed: I'm not going to rant with other people's mongrels! Designated, confirmed the position (in the case) and go home!
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 11: 40
      Will the elections be postponed?
      Uncertainties have become even greater.
      It’s good that the troops are withdrawing.
      1. +36
        3 October 2015 11: 46
        Dialogue of Ukraine and the EU:
        - Can I get loans?
        - No.
        - Is a visa-free regime possible?
        - No.
        - Is it possible to export agricultural products?
        - No.
        - What is allowed? We are Europeans now!
        - You can hold a bugger parade
        1. +2
          3 October 2015 15: 25
          And what, the word "hey" is now prohibited on the forum?
          1. +11
            3 October 2015 17: 13
            This is what they have there in the "Europe" g * and, and we both were, and remained pid *** ourselves.
            1. 0
              3 October 2015 19: 24
              Duc, and this word is prohibited on the forum! Zadolbalo already somehow allegorically call them!
          2. +1
            3 October 2015 21: 38
            No, it is not forbidden, it just needs to be "voiced" as GEEEY, so that it would be clear who is being played in the "point".
      2. +7
        3 October 2015 11: 50
        Of course there is not enough information, but even that is bread. Nothing new. It seems that the butts of politicians in Ukraine and Syria will not end soon, but I want it to be safe for our country, somehow the soul hurts and hurts for it. So much misfortune has befallen her, and with her, and us.
      3. -4
        3 October 2015 11: 57
        Quote: Temples
        Will the elections be postponed?
        Uncertainties have become even greater.
        It’s good that the troops are withdrawing.


        Do you call this "withdrawal of troops"? The real withdrawal of troops will be the FULL RELEASE of the territory occupied by Ukraine. Then, and only then, it will be possible to talk about some kind of settlement.

        By election.

        Somewhere in the media a message flashed saying that Putin is ready to hold consultations on this issue with representatives of the DPR and LPR ...

        It is quite possible that they will "push" and cancel.
      4. +6
        3 October 2015 12: 09
        and here’s what I dig:
        "With the end of the war in the southeast of the country, the Kiev authorities will immediately have a lot of problems that could provoke a change of president. This statement was made by Russian political scientist Dmitry Kulikov on the air of Vesti radio. In his opinion, the Ukrainian authorities will no longer be able to write off their failures. And he is right. The war distracted the world community and the population of the country from internal problems in the state. With the end of the ATO, politicians will not be able to get away from these problems. For them, the continuation of the war will be a profitable option, but will the US support them now?
        As far as I know, Petro Poroshenko, after the end of the UN General Assembly, even went to Obama and invited him to Kiev. Barack’s reaction amused me. He invited Peter to come to Washington, and then asked when would he be able to invite him to the Crimea?"x-true.info
        1. +2
          3 October 2015 12: 54
          Quote: shalim
          He invited Peter to come to Washington, and then asked when would he be able to invite him to the Crimea?

          What, and Obama's sense of humor erupted? Well, yes, over the past year he has heard so much about himself that involuntarily you will either go crazy or become a humorist.
          1. +2
            3 October 2015 20: 58
            This is not humor. More like a provocation or a mockery.
      5. +2
        3 October 2015 18: 03
        Temples
        Will the elections be postponed?
        Uncertainties have become even greater.
        It’s good that the troops are withdrawing.

        Something I had doubts about the success of the meeting
        - when there are four leaders, of so different views, then when reaching an agreement, FOUR PEOPLE WILL COME TO THE PRESS_CONFERENCE ... AND NOT TWO LEADERS WITH AN OPPOSITE POINT OF VIEW ...
        - the meeting does not leave so defiantly in the presence of positive results
        - Even if there were agreements, they say before the press - "reached" ..
        "agreed" ... "decided" ... And what did OLAND say - "we discussed" ... "we said ..."
        The same assumptions were confirmed by PESKOV - "the leaders of the countries of the" Normandy Four "" synchronized their watches "..." "all the Minsk agreements must be implemented without any interpretations" ... "and so on ...
        But how Potroshenko shone ... when he said goodbye to Hollande ... still, through the words of Hollande and Merkel it was announced that the elections were in accordance with Ukrainian laws and only until December 31 of this year ... an increase in the number of checkpoints and the return of control of Dill at the border, conditions elections should be agreed with KIEV (!!!) of the DPR and LPR .... But these are statements by EU leaders (their point of view), but where is the confirmation of the decisions by the Russian Federation? More questions than answers ...
        And again, everything has been left to the negotiations at a meeting of foreign ministers!
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      6. +3
        3 October 2015 20: 08
        Regarding the Minsk Agreements (MC), so many copies were already broken that it would be enough to equip them with a mediocre feudal army. laughing And so it is clear that all parties will pull the blanket in their direction. Anyway, no one will change his views until someone is forced to become in a pose from the Kama Sutra.
        Hence these "word games" sounding from all sides. However, if someone drew attention to the form for submitting various applications for the IS, then you can notice such a trend. Speeches are becoming more and more confused and more and more often "incomprehensible" words appear in them, with which the absolute majority of the population is simply not familiar.
        “All Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretation,” the spokesman said.

        They have already forgotten how to speak Russian in the "corridors of power". It is necessary to complicate everything to such an extent that hearing, once again, the call for "transparency of intentions", "lack of special interpretations" or "implementation" - looks like a mockery of common sense and hearing. Usually, someone who says this just wants to confuse things. But it will look like a scientist. So Gaidar once said. I pushed the speech for 15 minutes, but the people understood only 1 minute. Return to the "land" gentlemen officials! wink
    2. +4
      3 October 2015 12: 04
      Quote: Baikonur
      Designated, confirmed the position (in the case) and go home!


      This is not in Putin’s tradition :: apparently something went wrong ...
      The analogy with Australia suggests itself ...
      What did he say to them that they behaved so "against" ???
      1. +2
        3 October 2015 13: 44
        hydrox .... What did he tell them that they behaved like that "against" ???

        In my opinion, they were under the American target.
        Poroshenko uploaded John Baden in a long conversation in New York, this is unambiguous. Therefore, he did not go anywhere for consultations, but stubbornly stood his ground. And here, Merkel did not run away for 15
        minutes. Where? In 15 minutes you can not only change gaskets, but also talk in detail on the phone. Therefore, GDP does not make sense, to participate in such gatherings that do not solve anything at all.
        1. 0
          4 October 2015 08: 59
          Therefore, GDP does not make sense, to participate in such gatherings that do not solve anything at all.

          Absolutely, understanding this GDP and relates to what is happening in the same way))))
      2. 0
        3 October 2015 23: 13
        Quote: hydrox
        Designated, confirmed the position (in the case) and go home!


        Correctly. There is nothing to indulge in vain. Let the rest of the trinity do it.
    3. 0
      3 October 2015 12: 07
      So I like the look of it))) you say, tremble, trep (this is анland from Merkil))) well, and finally there’s zero attention to the bucket)))
    4. +14
      3 October 2015 12: 11
      Quote: Baikonur
      Krasava! right gesture! Not a match!

      Putin is the only one there who smiles. smile
      1. jjj
        0
        3 October 2015 12: 26
        There were shots where he and Merkel giggle. Apparently, things are going right on gas
      2. 0
        3 October 2015 14: 46
        A decent man, our President, less well-mannered would laugh like horses, looking at this circus
  2. +7
    3 October 2015 11: 33
    Poroshenko will again scream at every corner that this is purely his merit and, in general, the victory of Ukrainian diplomacy.
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      1. +8
        3 October 2015 11: 42
        Yeah! I burst into tears! Right!
        laughing 5 +++++
        Cool shot!
        Vereshchagin! Do not leave the longboat! wink
        1. +7
          3 October 2015 11: 44
          While Abdullah is not soaked, I will not leave.
          1. +3
            3 October 2015 11: 55
            If you meet Javdet, do not touch him. He is mine! laughing
          2. 0
            3 October 2015 15: 11
            Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
            While Abdullah is not soaked, I will not leave.

            Quote: Baikonur
            Vereshchagin! Do not leave the longboat!

            Buddy Vereshchagin, you better not go to the longboat. And the freeze-frame is awesome. laughing drinks
            1. +1
              3 October 2015 15: 18
              Such as Vereshchagin (I mean the image of a true patriot) do not die. So we will not be afraid to walk on a longboat.
      2. +4
        3 October 2015 11: 51
        Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
        Regarding the Channel Four and Porosenko

        about the photo
        and why the "SEATS" are different - these ... have chairs and sofas and the GDP has a chair request
        like "Uncle Vova" will put conditions (tasks) in 5 minutes and will go about his business
        - And this trinity will scratch the turnip half a night, and what did he say, and what did he mean, what will we do ???
        1. +6
          3 October 2015 11: 57
          The point is not what the GDP sits on, but how it sits, pay attention to the GDP as a master calmly and with dignity, and the prose on the edge of the chair like a naughty schoolboy.
          1. jjj
            +3
            3 October 2015 12: 27
            This is because sitting on a low chair is uncomfortable. And the throne is quite comfortable
          2. 0
            3 October 2015 21: 12
            Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
            a prose at the edge of the chair like a naughty schoolboy.

            Ah, isn't he a naughty guy hi
        2. +2
          3 October 2015 12: 59
          Quote: Dryuya2
          and why the "SEATS" are different - these ... have chairs and sofas and the GDP has a chair

          This is not a chair - this is a throne.
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          0
          3 October 2015 20: 01
          Just an antique couch has 2 armchairs and one sofa, added a chair, also antique. Putin chose a chair - to sit more comfortable and more stable.
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        1. +3
          3 October 2015 12: 06
          Quote: vc 72019
          In the New Interpretation

          GDP pulls them under the table for strings ???
          1. jjj
            +1
            3 October 2015 12: 28
            Quote: vc 72019
            and Poroshenko has the same expression

            They didn’t give a hangover
      4. 0
        3 October 2015 14: 25
        Sitting together cooing tongue -a beautiful couple lol
  3. +3
    3 October 2015 11: 34
    The decision is certainly correct, but as always, Ukraine will say that they were misunderstood and will not do a damn thing.
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 17: 14
      Quote: brodyaga
      The decision is certainly correct, but as always, Ukraine will say that they were misunderstood and will not do a damn thing.
  4. +2
    3 October 2015 11: 34
    Check the clock .. do not check. And parasit in their office like a lamb. But as he jumps out from there and begins to carry nonsense again. It is necessary to start the fifth side in the negotiations. Not Americans, but psychiatrists. Maybe even during negotiations he will treat the unfortunate from a split personality.
  5. +1
    3 October 2015 11: 37
    The fact that they agree and generally talk is certainly good. But there is no trust, and absolutely, to all Poroshenko’s promises. As it did not fulfill before, it will not execute until the owner permits it. But the owner of such a desire is not observed.
  6. +2
    3 October 2015 11: 38
    It seems to me (judging by the face) Parsley collectively flogged, with special cynicism in a perverted form!
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 12: 09
      Quote: alex74nur
      It seems to me (judging by the face) Parsley collectively flogged, with special cynicism in a perverted form!

      I want to note that he always has the face of a sufferer. And in Russian it sounds like this:heartbroken. Yes
  7. +1
    3 October 2015 11: 38
    GDP is smiling, the pig is sitting like a Coke, and Klimkin in the background is generally a masterpiece
    1. +7
      3 October 2015 11: 47
      Quote: andrei332809
      GDP is smiling, the pig is sitting like a Coke, and Klimkin in the background is generally a masterpiece
  8. +5
    3 October 2015 11: 38
    Apparently, they did not agree to anything ...

    Apparently: vague, standard, common speech Olanda and Merkel before the press ...
    And Putin who left in silence with Poroshenko ....- judging by all this.
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 11: 48
      I agree. If we agreed on something, the GDP would be at a press conference. Our president is a man of business, not of boltology.
  9. +3
    3 October 2015 11: 40
    Judging by the expression on the face, Petruhe’s face is difficult, by the way, almost all foreign media, including UkryASMI, paid attention to the photographs of Petrukh and Klimkin’s faces, and not in their favor (Petrukh and Klimkin).

    Poteryashkiny they. sad what what what
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 15: 18
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Judging by the expression on his face, Petruhe’s hard

      T.K. scribe crept not noticeably on bent legs.
  10. +3
    3 October 2015 11: 43
    Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin immediately left, and did not participate in the press conference.


    Very correct and competent.
    Nothing to pamper.
    Themselves brewed and dissolve.
    Anyway, that from Roshen will turn everything upside down.
  11. +8
    3 October 2015 11: 44
    And how does it agree with them if this trinity of six is ​​west, and cock also ass kisses this two.
  12. +2
    3 October 2015 11: 46
    The parties also spoke about “supporting the OSCE mission, expanding its mandate and humanitarian aspects” Why expand, useless. They don’t see it anyway.
  13. +6
    3 October 2015 11: 48
    A bit like all this backstage intrigue .:
  14. +1
    3 October 2015 11: 48
    In general, everyone remained of their opinion. Therefore, the GDP quickly left and in order not to crush the water in the mortar.
  15. +2
    3 October 2015 11: 49
    PPR - sat down, prank, parted. Nothing ... So Putin left, because the result is "0". Maybe Pesov doesn't say something, but hardly. IMHO.
  16. -17
    3 October 2015 11: 50
    Pancake burned am Now exactly drain LDNR am Do not fight on two fronts camillefo? What is it that turns out tomorrow the Nazis will come to my house? Why are we being driven back to RUIN? What for??? They only began to live humanly, they began to recover only, they began to build, order appeared, drug addicts and urkagans disappeared from the streets, people stopped being afraid to walk at night. And on you back to ANARCHY? To chaos? Thank you. WWII did not expect this betrayal in the back am
    1. -3
      3 October 2015 12: 48
      Minus those who do not want to face the truth, who do not tell the truth, who do not live in LDNR. All Russia caves in under the mattress
      1. +7
        3 October 2015 13: 21
        Why are you saying that ...
        Cool "deflection" in Syria. All were sent through the forest and flew to bomb.
        And the point with such a "deflection" to merge Novorossiya? Is this perverted masochism? Like, "I was punished for Ukraine, now I give a reason for punishment for Syria"?
      2. +1
        3 October 2015 15: 27
        [quote = Pafos] who does not want to face the truth, [/ quote]
        You yourself looked into her eyes, a lie. [Quote = EvgNik]
    2. +1
      3 October 2015 13: 20
      Quote: Pafos
      Why are we being driven back to RUIN

      Why did you panic? Who is leaving you and what are two fronts? Have they drunk vodka? And minus either panic or their own Cossacks mishandled. Then - minus not for the truth, but for the position chosen by the author of the comment. But for the next comment, I would minus, oh well, write off the stress.
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 15: 31
        Quote: EvgNik
        And minus either panic or their own Cossacks mishandled. Then - minus not for the truth, but for the position chosen by the author

        It’s not logical. Why is it that * their * will be minus? He is * a mishandled Cossack * to create panic and negativity.
    3. -1
      3 October 2015 14: 59
      GDP is a correct politician, and in all cases goes to the set goal. The ultimate goal at this stage, it is more correct to say the goal of this stage, we do not know, we can only assume, and therefore shouting "the guard has betrayed us", in my opinion, early, in a very alarmist way.
    4. 0
      3 October 2015 15: 23
      You don’t want to answer, provocateur (i.e. provocateur). fool
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    2. +5
      3 October 2015 12: 01
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I would blow her .....

      MIKHAN, just words ...

      How many I do not read, then the one would "vdul", then the other ...

      Maybe enough, do boltology?

      Or just in words lol ?
      1. +3
        3 October 2015 12: 08
        Quote: Good I
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I would blow her .....

        MIKHAN, just words ...

        How many I do not read, then the one would "vdul", then the other ...

        Maybe enough, do boltology?

        Or just in words lol ?

        laughing laughing Of course in words ... I am for Russia, and not for pleasure! hi Well, if you need to infiltrate .... wassat
    3. 0
      3 October 2015 12: 04
      Hare, in the same place everything is wrinkled and turned into a rag))))).
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 12: 09
        Quote: KSergey
        Hare, in the same place everything is wrinkled and turned into a rag))))).

        You can develop ... But carefully! drinks
        1. 0
          3 October 2015 12: 58
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: KSergey
          Hare, in the same place everything is wrinkled and turned into a rag))))).

          You can develop ... But carefully! drinks

          MIKHAN this would blow? Immediately in BV there will be peace. The household will collect bottles for you around the apartment. The opposition accused Sarah of ... handing out empty bottles left over from receptions at the premier’s residence, as well as from milk and juice, and appropriating the received thousands of shekels, rather than handing them over to the treasury
      2. 0
        3 October 2015 15: 39
        Quote: KSergey
        turned into a rag

        Meehan for Russia is even ready for such a sacrifice. wassat
    4. +1
      3 October 2015 13: 23
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I would blow her .....

      Well, you Mikhan and a pervert ... By the way, I notice this is not the first time. Whatever shameful face - this would be the best for everyone.
    5. +1
      3 October 2015 15: 35
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I would be her

      Meehan, you know who minus you.? Standing in line. laughing
    6. 0
      3 October 2015 16: 24
      I would blow her ...

      Damn it ... Do not be afraid that her blower is longer and wider hi lol
    7. 0
      3 October 2015 19: 39
      Caution! She looks more like a female mantis.
  18. +2
    3 October 2015 11: 51
    Why grovel in front of sixes? The gesture is significant. Petsya again got "in the teeth", wiped himself off, and set off to carry out the suicidal plan of these agreements. By the way, when Merkel and Hollande summoned him to Berlin on the day of the Independence Day and was flogged there, Putin did not even go. What for? The less significant members 3 + 1 will also cope with bringing the Piglet to a common denominator (what kind of four is there, only one laugh). But when Petsya suddenly began to spew pearls, like the fact that Minsk could be disavowed after the expiration of the statute of limitations, apparently followed by an extremely harsh bashing. It is unlikely that his brains were put in his place for a long time, but now the term is not limited! And something needs to be done, although you don't want to.
  19. -2
    3 October 2015 11: 58
    LDNR is left to find gas, and then amazing things will start to happen :-)
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 22: 40
      Quote: rosarioagro
      LDNR is left to find gas, and then amazing things will start to happen :-)


      You probably do not vkursyah that the Shell company, not long before the Maidan, "laid eyes" on the so-called Yuzovskoye shale gas field.

      Incidentally, the richest by the standards of such ...
  20. 0
    3 October 2015 11: 58
    [quote = MIHAN] [quote]
    I would blow her ..... [/ quote]

    Not Julia 7 years ago was better, this one is scary as a thousand Gabonese.
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 12: 17
      [quote = AK-74-1] [quote = MIHAN] [quote]
      I would blow her ..... [/ quote]

      Not Julia about 7 years ago was better, this one is scary as a thousand Gabonese. [/ Quote]
      Well, there are many such hunters ...)))) And I go for Russia to scary and evil bitch ..! crying Because it is necessary ..
      I’ll leave you such .... (I know a lot about them))))
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 15: 47
        laughing
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I'm going to Russia for terrible and evil bitch ..!

        Meehan, I respect you for sacrificing yourself. Do not pay attention to chaste critics, trample everyone who the topper looks at. drinks hi
  21. +6
    3 October 2015 12: 13
    Well said, but too late ... Ukraine will "ripen in silence" and its own juice! (except for Donbass) .. Let's wait!
  22. 0
    3 October 2015 12: 36
    I look forward to Parashenko’s interpretation, in what he was dipped into, I’m sure I saw another overturn. A strange confectioner, to him that guano that candy, he sculpts both the one and the other, and the same and that and the other he wanders. But svidomye yesterday on the censor did not understand such an appeal, specifically they threaten the Maidan. You can check the weather with them: they start to jump - to the cold!
  23. +1
    3 October 2015 12: 43
    Quote: Good Me
    The real withdrawal of troops will be the FULL RELEASE of the territory occupied by Ukraine

    Rather than Ukraine, and the junta.
  24. -12
    3 October 2015 12: 46
    I look at the sofa ENERALS and I understand that here gathered P R I D U R K I am In legal language I explain THIS DRAINING LDNR !!! If even the elections are postponed, and according to Ukrainian law, ALL THE TOMORROW Fascists WILL COME !!! But aren't Vova’s words that he sees Ruin as an integral state ??? The curtain closes DRAIN ..... We pack things and bring down to ANTARCTICA laughing
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 18: 00
      Is it all gone? Did you learn the penguin language?
    2. 0
      3 October 2015 20: 22
      Too much pathos. There's no censor, dude, exhale. And get off the capsule.
  25. +2
    3 October 2015 12: 47
    Quote: Pafos
    Thank you. WWII did not expect this betrayal in the back


    A military operation in Syria began a few days ago. The West immediately raised a howl, not by accident: the very terrorists (it does not matter, IS or others, moderate) were created by the West (states), they are financed by them, and there is a fight, again, with them. An endless stream of crazy money to fight with yourself. Uncountable funds have been thrown into the creation of the image of a terrorist by the Western media. In total, summing everything up (from the media to financing terror and combating them), let's take a trillion for an even account. And this trillion fell under the rink. Several decades of Western investment are going down the drain. We need to save these investments. The project "Ukraine" seems to have invested 5 billion (according to the media). What do you think: what will the Americans and the West save first? My opinion is that now, to put it mildly, they have no time for Ukraine. And this is the best help from Putin.
    The meeting in Normandy was planned much earlier, before the events in the UN and Syria. Such meetings for 2-3 days are not canceled. But there was essentially no sense from her. The Germans and the paddling pool had other, more important problems. Negotiations lasted about 4,5 hours. Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin immediately left, and did not participate in the press conference. He did everything and said before, it was an on-call meeting about nothing. Time works for New Russia, good luck and success!
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      1. +2
        3 October 2015 13: 30
        So, what is next? Will you vote for the Nazis? Then it is not you who are merged, but you are merged. The elections are planned to be held under the control of LDNR, i.e. under the control of Russia. But the OSCE will only observe, and the junta will only participate at all. So go ahead, you have been given the opportunity to legitimize - go for it.
        However, most likely, there will be no elections either in the Donbass or in the Ruin. The porosity cannot do everything; the Minsk agreement obliges him. He most likely gut wound around the neck. The Americans themselves, by the hands of right-wingers.
      2. +6
        3 October 2015 13: 31
        Quote: Pafos
        It’s disgusting to look at these four.

        Do not look, and then it will be a shame for words.
        1. +1
          3 October 2015 17: 36
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: Pafos
          It’s disgusting to look at these four.

          Do not look, and then it will be a shame for words.

          When the provocateurs were ashamed of their activities.
          This is the first.
          And the second and main - before the start of all this sore in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions there were almost 8 million inhabitants.
          We take every tenth as a "peasant" ... Of these, we consider half as feeble cowardly slobber, or simply - unable to hold a weapon.
          Where are the remaining 350-400 thousand men!?!
          On the run? Where are the "mighty miners", about whom they shouted almost every day; "Wait a minute ... !!! The miners will rise ..."
          In Russia, loot is earned ...
          And that means - in order not to "drain", instead of these men should we send our children to death?
          Fuck you ...
      3. 0
        3 October 2015 18: 02
        But you look ...
  26. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 39
    It’s difficult for me to judge precisely your successes (I’m afraid to undeservedly offend or insult if you are a representative of the New Russia Armed Forces, I apologize in advance).
    We didn’t fight for that am We didn’t die for that am You don't know much am
    Something a lot of cliches, do not you think?

    GDP smiled not only in etiquette, but also in appearance, showing that everything is in order (although everything can be diametrically opposite). It’s like playing poker (normal, at the table) - you don’t know how to control your facial expression - you don’t play.
    And about this bunch I wrote a comment above: the bunch is nothing, but no one could cancel it. For 2-3 days of a meeting of this level are not canceled.
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 15: 52
      Quote: S_Baykala
      For 2-3 days, meetings of this level are not canceled.

      I agree with you on-duty meeting.
  27. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 54
    ... at a meeting in the Champs Elysees, the leaders of the Norman Four "checked the clock"
    It seems that they didn’t just lag behind Parashenko, they were still broken!
  28. +2
    3 October 2015 14: 50
    And Potroshenko was taken into the campaign. The penny holds in the wind, and then they will bite.
  29. 0
    3 October 2015 14: 54
    Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
    Regarding the Channel Four and Porosenko

    It would be better if they had an abortion!
  30. 0
    3 October 2015 14: 57
    Petrusha, why don’t you have fun, that you hung your nose. While clapping each other at a meeting, the Frenchman flicked a flask of good vodka from Petrusha’s pocket from his pocket. And we noticed it, it was restrained by force.
  31. 0
    3 October 2015 18: 06
    They agreed at the meeting that “all the Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretations,” said a spokesman.

    Let me remind you of one of the points of "Minsk - 2".
    9. The restoration of full control over the state border by the government of Ukraine in the entire conflict zone, which should begin on the first day after local elections and end after a comprehensive political settlement (local elections in certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions based on the Law of Ukraine and constitutional reform) by the end of 2015, subject to paragraph 11, in consultation and in consultation with representatives of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions within the framework of the Tripartite Contact group.
    Applaud, shout cheers, throw up bonnets. It is for this that militias and volunteers died. Glory to the peacekeeper PU, savior of Donbass and Russia.
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 20: 28
      Ukraine will never control this border.
      1. 0
        3 October 2015 22: 28
        Quote: north
        Ukraine will never control this border

        Judging by the last gatherings of the Normandy four will be. The Russian Federation will force the LDNR to give it under control. A question of time and compliance with "the best choice of the Ukrainian people" (c). Oland-Merkel is responsible for the pliability of the latter. Only a riot of Svidomo or militiamen, which is unlikely, can prevent the LDNR from being crammed into dill. So we will see the final of the HPP within a year. Apparently, some guarantees about Crimea were promised to Putin.
  32. 0
    3 October 2015 18: 14
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Earlier, Farion demanded to shoot anti-Ukrainian creatures, and also said that Ukraine should become the spearhead of the third world war. In addition, she was viciously ready to tear to pieces those who dared to ask why her dear Tyagnybok so zealously evades the demonstration of applied heroism in the ATO zone ".

    From the positive information about Farion, we only know that, having failed in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada, she wanted to take her own life. Unfortunately, she did not succeed. However, like everything she grabs on to.

    And that, paradoxically, Irina Farion can be wished good luck. Considering the results of the national revolution of dignity she listed, to which she has thoroughly applied her wings, the more the good and different pharyon will replenish the Ukrainian power, the sooner Ukraine will be cured of this infection. Better complete with seams. For no one discredits "patriots" more effectively than they themselves. It is not in vain that the Russian spirit is returning to Lviv!

    www.politnavigator.net/farion-okonchatelno-svikhnulas ..

    I would blow her .....


    Do not. She is vile. That’s for me personally not to drink so much vodka.
    It’s better to take off the shoulder than to use this ZHBŷ
  33. 0
    3 October 2015 18: 15
    Everything was clear on Putin’s face)
  34. 0
    3 October 2015 18: 46
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  35. 0
    3 October 2015 20: 07
    Interesting photo: Hollande is rubbing something, Merkel is suspiciously squinting at him, Poroshenko is sitting in our pants .... al, well, our smiling-Gioconda is relaxing with her mysterious smile. wink
  36. 0
    3 October 2015 20: 30
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Earlier, Farion demanded to shoot anti-Ukrainian creatures, and also said that Ukraine should become the spearhead of the third world war. In addition, she was viciously ready to tear to pieces those who dared to ask why her dear Tyagnybok so zealously evades the demonstration of applied heroism in the ATO zone ".

    From the positive information about Farion, we only know that, having failed in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada, she wanted to take her own life. Unfortunately, she did not succeed. However, like everything she grabs on to.

    And that, paradoxically, Irina Farion can be wished good luck. Considering the results of the national revolution of dignity she listed, to which she has thoroughly applied her wings, the more the good and different pharyon will replenish the Ukrainian power, the sooner Ukraine will be cured of this infection. Better complete with seams. For no one discredits "patriots" more effectively than they themselves. It is not in vain that the Russian spirit is returning to Lviv!

    www.politnavigator.net/farion-okonchatelno-svikhnulas ..

    I would blow her .....

    Was it not enough for you psaki?
  37. 0
    3 October 2015 21: 58
    “At the meeting, it was agreed that“ all (!) Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretations, ”said the press secretary.“ .... everything else is a good mine with ... A plot about the DPR, as in the movie “Wild geese ".