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Sands on the meeting of the "Norman Four"

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According to the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, at the meeting in the Elysée Palace the leaders of the “Norman four” countries “checked the clock” on the most important points of the Minsk agreements. Comments Peskov leads the channel LifeNews.




They agreed at the meeting that “all the Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretations,” said a spokesman.

The participants of the meeting "noted positive developments in the situation in Ukraine, in particular, in the matter of signing a document on the withdrawal of weapons in caliber to 100 mm." Challenge should begin on Friday night to Saturday.

The parties also talked about “support for the OSCE mission, expansion of its mandate and humanitarian aspects,” said Peskov.

They discussed topics related to elections in the self-proclaimed republics and amnesty.

In addition, attention was paid to the issue of the Ukrainian pilot Savchenko. In connection with this, Vladimir Putin said that this topic “can be discussed only after the court pronounces the verdict”.

Peskov expressed confidence that the negotiations on Ukraine will continue. According to him, "in November, as expected, a meeting of foreign ministers will be held." In addition, the “daily contacts of presidential aides in international affairs” will be continued.

In turn, Petro Poroshenko, at the end of the meeting in Paris, announced the beginning of the withdrawal of weapons from the demarcation line in the Donbass.

“The withdrawal will begin from tomorrow (from October 3). It now remains to transfer the coordinates, a list of those weapons that will be removed. We agreed on the need for OSCE observers to access the entire territory of the region. "Norman Four" decided that the withdrawal of light weapons will occur within 41 day "- said the Ukrainian president.

Negotiations of the heads of state of the "Norman Four" (Russia, France, Germany and Ukraine), held yesterday at the Elysee Palace, lasted about 4,5 hours. Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin left immediately, and did not participate in the press conference.
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  1. Baikonur
    Baikonur 3 October 2015 11: 32 New
    +30
    Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin immediately left, and did not participate in the press conference.
    Krasava! right gesture! Not a match!
    Showed: I'm not going to rant with other people's mongrels! Designated, confirmed the position (in the case) and go home!
    1. Temples
      Temples 3 October 2015 11: 40 New
      +2
      Will the elections be postponed?
      Uncertainties have become even greater.
      It’s good that the troops are withdrawing.
      1. herruvim
        herruvim 3 October 2015 11: 46 New
        +36
        Dialogue of Ukraine and the EU:
        - Can I get loans?
        - No.
        - Is a visa-free regime possible?
        - No.
        - Is it possible to export agricultural products?
        - No.
        - What is allowed? We are Europeans now!
        - You can hold a bugger parade
        1. northern
          northern 3 October 2015 15: 25 New
          +2
          Well, the word "gay" is now prohibited on the forum?
          1. Vorchun
            Vorchun 3 October 2015 17: 13 New
            +11
            They have it there in the "Europe" g * and, and we both had, and remained pid *** themselves.
            1. northern
              northern 3 October 2015 19: 24 New
              0
              Duc, and this word is prohibited on the forum! Zadolbalo already somehow allegorically call them!
          2. proletarian
            proletarian 3 October 2015 21: 38 New
            +1
            No, it’s not forbidden, it’s just necessary to “voice” it like a GAY, so that it would be clear who is playing the “point”.
      2. Dembel77
        Dembel77 3 October 2015 11: 50 New
        +7
        Of course there is not enough information, but even that is bread. Nothing new. It seems that the butts of politicians in Ukraine and Syria will not end soon, but I want it to be safe for our country, somehow the soul hurts and hurts for it. So much misfortune has befallen her, and with her, and us.
      3. Good me
        Good me 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
        -4
        Quote: Temples
        Will the elections be postponed?
        Uncertainties have become even greater.
        It’s good that the troops are withdrawing.


        What do you call "withdrawal of troops"? The real withdrawal of troops will be the FULL RELEASE of the territory occupied by Ukraine. Then, and only then, it will be possible to talk about some kind of settlement.

        By election.

        Somewhere in the media a message flashed saying that Putin is ready to hold consultations on this issue with representatives of the DPR and LPR ...

        It is possible to “push” and cancel.
      4. shalim
        shalim 3 October 2015 12: 09 New
        +6
        and here’s what I dig:
        "With the cessation of the war in the southeast of the country, the Kiev authorities will immediately have a lot of problems that could provoke a change of president. Such a statement was made by Russian political scientist Dmitry Kulikov on the Vesti radio. In his opinion, the Ukrainian authorities will no longer be able to write off their failures and he’s right. The war distracted the international community and the country's population from internal problems in the state. With the completion of the ATO, politicians will not be able to get away from these problems. For them, the continuation of the war will be a profitable option, but will the US support them now?
        As far as I know, Petro Poroshenko, after the end of the UN General Assembly, even went to Obama and invited him to Kiev. Barack’s reaction amused me. He invited Peter to come to Washington, and then asked when would he be able to invite him to the Crimea?"x-true.info
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 3 October 2015 12: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: shalim
          He invited Peter to come to Washington, and then asked when would he be able to invite him to the Crimea?

          What, and Obama's sense of humor erupted? Well, yes, over the past year he has heard so much about himself that involuntarily you will either go crazy or become a humorist.
          1. TVM - 75
            TVM - 75 3 October 2015 20: 58 New
            +2
            This is not humor. More like a provocation or a mockery.
      5. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 3 October 2015 18: 03 New
        +2
        Temples
        Will the elections be postponed?
        Uncertainties have become even greater.
        It’s good that the troops are withdrawing.

        Something I had doubts about the success of the meeting
        - when there are four leaders, of so different views, then when reaching an agreement, FOUR PEOPLE WILL COME TO THE PRESS_CONFERENCE ... AND NOT TWO LEADERS WITH AN OPPOSITE POINT OF VIEW ...
        - the meeting does not leave so defiantly in the presence of positive results
        - Even if there were agreements, they say before the press - “reached” ..
        "agreed" ... "decided" ... And what OLAND said - "we discussed" ... "we talked ..."
        The same assumptions were also confirmed by PESKOV - "the leaders of the Norman Four countries" checked the clock "" ... "" all Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretation "...", etc ...
        But how Potroshenko shone ... when he said goodbye to Hollande ... still, through the words of Hollande and Merkel it was announced that the elections were in accordance with Ukrainian laws and only until December 31 of this year ... an increase in the number of checkpoints and the return of control of Dill at the border, conditions elections should be agreed with KIEV (!!!) of the DPR and LPR .... But these are statements by EU leaders (their point of view), but where is the confirmation of the decisions by the Russian Federation? More questions than answers ...
        And again, everything has been left to the negotiations at a meeting of foreign ministers!
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      6. Columnist
        Columnist 3 October 2015 20: 08 New
        +3
        Regarding the Minsk Agreements (MC), so many copies were already broken that it would be enough to equip them with a mediocre feudal army. laughing And so it is clear that all parties will pull the blanket in their direction. Anyway, no one will change his views until someone is forced to become in a pose from the Kama Sutra.
        Hence these "word games" sounding from all sides. However, if someone drew attention to the form of filing a variety of applications for MS, then you can notice this trend. Speeches are becoming more and more confused, and in them more and more often flash “incomprehensible” words, with which the vast majority of the population are simply not familiar.
        “All Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretation,” the spokesman said.

        In Russian already forgotten how to speak in the "corridors of power." Everything needs to be complicated to such an extent that hearing, once again, the call "about transparency of intentions", "lack of special interpretations" or "implementation" - looks like a mockery of common sense and hearing. Usually, the one who says so just wants to confuse everything. But it will look "scientifically." So once Gaidar said. For 15 minutes, the speech pushed, and the people understood only 1 minute. Return to the "land" gentlemen officials! wink
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2015 12: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: Baikonur
      Designated, confirmed the position (in the case) and go home!


      This is not in Putin’s tradition :: apparently something went wrong ...
      The analogy with Australia suggests itself ...
      What did he say to them that they behaved so “against” ???
      1. askort154
        askort154 3 October 2015 13: 44 New
        +2
        hydrox .... What did he say to them that they behaved so “against” ???

        In my opinion, they were under the American "sight".
        Poroshenko loaded John Baden in a long conversation in New York, this is unambiguous. Therefore, he did not go anywhere for consultations, but stubbornly stood on his own. And here, Merkel ran for 15
        minutes. Where? In 15 minutes you can not only change gaskets, but also talk in detail on the phone. Therefore, GDP does not make sense, to participate in such gatherings that do not solve anything at all.
        1. roadsmell
          roadsmell 4 October 2015 08: 59 New
          0
          Therefore, GDP does not make sense, to participate in such gatherings that do not solve anything at all.

          Absolutely, understanding this GDP and relates to what is happening in the same way))))
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 3 October 2015 23: 13 New
        0
        Quote: hydrox
        Designated, confirmed the position (in the case) and go home!


        Correctly. There is nothing to indulge in vain. Let the rest of the trinity do it.
    3. Yu-81
      Yu-81 3 October 2015 12: 07 New
      0
      So I like the look of it))) you say, tremble, trep (this is анland from Merkil))) well, and finally there’s zero attention to the bucket)))
    4. GRAY
      GRAY 3 October 2015 12: 11 New
      +14
      Quote: Baikonur
      Krasava! right gesture! Not a match!

      Putin is the only one there who smiles. smile
      1. jjj
        jjj 3 October 2015 12: 26 New
        0
        There were shots where he and Merkel giggle. Apparently, things are going right on gas
      2. Senior manager
        Senior manager 3 October 2015 14: 46 New
        0
        A decent man, our President, less well-mannered would laugh like horses, looking at this circus
  2. Kenji
    Kenji 3 October 2015 11: 33 New
    +7
    Poroshenko will again scream at every corner that this is purely his merit and, in general, the victory of Ukrainian diplomacy.
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      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 3 October 2015 11: 42 New
        +8
        Yeah! I burst into tears! Right!
        laughing 5 +++++
        Cool shot!
        Vereshchagin! Do not leave the longboat! wink
        1. Pavel Vereshchagin
          Pavel Vereshchagin 3 October 2015 11: 44 New
          +7
          While Abdullah is not soaked, I will not leave.
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 3 October 2015 11: 55 New
            +3
            If you meet Javdet, do not touch him. He is mine! laughing
          2. unsinkable
            unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
            While Abdullah is not soaked, I will not leave.

            Quote: Baikonur
            Vereshchagin! Do not leave the longboat!

            Buddy Vereshchagin, you better not go to the longboat. And the freeze-frame is awesome. laughing drinks
            1. Pavel Vereshchagin
              Pavel Vereshchagin 3 October 2015 15: 18 New
              +1
              Such as Vereshchagin (I mean the image of a true patriot) do not die. So we will not be afraid to walk on a longboat.
      2. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 3 October 2015 11: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
        Regarding the Channel Four and Porosenko

        about the photo
        and why "SEATS" are different - these ... armchairs and sofas and GDP have a chair request
        Tipo "Uncle Vova" will set conditions (tasks) in 5 minutes and will go about his business
        - And this trinity will scratch the turnip half a night, and what did he say, and what did he mean, what will we do ???
        1. Pavel Vereshchagin
          Pavel Vereshchagin 3 October 2015 11: 57 New
          +6
          The point is not what the GDP sits on, but how it sits, pay attention to the GDP as a master calmly and with dignity, and the prose on the edge of the chair like a naughty schoolboy.
          1. jjj
            jjj 3 October 2015 12: 27 New
            +3
            This is because sitting on a low chair is uncomfortable. And the throne is quite comfortable
          2. mark7
            mark7 3 October 2015 21: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
            a prose at the edge of the chair like a naughty schoolboy.

            Ah, isn't he a naughty guy hi
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 3 October 2015 12: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: Dryuya2
          and why "SEATS" are different - these ... armchairs and sofas and GDP have a chair

          This is not a chair - this is a throne.
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        4. OK
          OK 3 October 2015 20: 01 New
          0
          Just an antique couch has 2 armchairs and one sofa, added a chair, also antique. Putin chose a chair - to sit more comfortable and more stable.
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        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 3 October 2015 12: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: treble 72019
          In the New Interpretation

          GDP pulls them under the table for strings ???
          1. jjj
            jjj 3 October 2015 12: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: treble 72019
            and Poroshenko has the same expression

            They didn’t give a hangover
      4. 31R-US
        31R-US 3 October 2015 14: 25 New
        0
        Sitting together cooing tongue -a beautiful couple lol
  3. brodyaga
    brodyaga 3 October 2015 11: 34 New
    +3
    The decision is certainly correct, but as always, Ukraine will say that they were misunderstood and will not do a damn thing.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 3 October 2015 17: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: brodyaga
      The decision is certainly correct, but as always, Ukraine will say that they were misunderstood and will not do a damn thing.
  4. meriem1
    meriem1 3 October 2015 11: 34 New
    +2
    Check the clock .. do not check. And parasit in their office like a lamb. But as he jumps out from there and begins to carry nonsense again. It is necessary to start the fifth side in the negotiations. Not Americans, but psychiatrists. Maybe even during negotiations he will treat the unfortunate from a split personality.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 October 2015 11: 37 New
    +1
    The fact that they agree and generally talk is certainly good. But there is no trust, and absolutely, to all Poroshenko’s promises. As it did not fulfill before, it will not execute until the owner permits it. But the owner of such a desire is not observed.
  6. alex74nur
    alex74nur 3 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +2
    It seems to me (judging by the face) Parsley collectively flogged, with special cynicism in a perverted form!
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 12: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: alex74nur
      It seems to me (judging by the face) Parsley collectively flogged, with special cynicism in a perverted form!

      I want to note that he always has the face of a sufferer. And in Russian it sounds like this:heartbroken. yes
  7. andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +1
    GDP is smiling, the pig is sitting like a Coke, and Klimkin in the background is generally a masterpiece
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 3 October 2015 11: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: andrei332809
      GDP is smiling, the pig is sitting like a Coke, and Klimkin in the background is generally a masterpiece
  8. Dezinto
    Dezinto 3 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +5
    Apparently, they did not agree to anything ...

    Apparently: vague, standard, common speech Olanda and Merkel before the press ...
    And Putin who left in silence with Poroshenko ....- judging by all this.
    1. provincial
      provincial 3 October 2015 11: 48 New
      +2
      I agree. If we agreed on something, the GDP would be at a press conference. Our president is a man of business, not of boltology.
  9. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 11: 40 New
    +3
    Judging by the expression on the face, Petruhe’s face is difficult, by the way, almost all foreign media, including UkryASMI, paid attention to the photographs of Petrukh and Klimkin’s faces, and not in their favor (Petrukh and Klimkin).

    Poteryashkiny they. sad what what what
    1. unsinkable
      unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Judging by the expression on his face, Petruhe’s hard

      T.K. scribe crept not noticeably on bent legs.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 October 2015 11: 43 New
    +3
    Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin immediately left, and did not participate in the press conference.


    Very correct and competent.
    Nothing to pamper.
    Themselves brewed and dissolve.
    Anyway, that from Roshen will turn everything upside down.
  11. 79807420129
    79807420129 3 October 2015 11: 44 New
    +8
    And how does it agree with them if this trinity of six is ​​west, and cock also ass kisses this two.
  12. kil 31
    kil 31 3 October 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    The parties also spoke about “supporting the OSCE mission, expanding its mandate and humanitarian aspects” Why expand, useless. They don’t see it anyway.
  13. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 3 October 2015 11: 48 New
    +6
    A bit like all this backstage intrigue .:
  14. sl22277
    sl22277 3 October 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    In general, everyone remained of their opinion. Therefore, the GDP quickly left and in order not to crush the water in the mortar.
  15. smith7
    smith7 3 October 2015 11: 49 New
    +2
    PPR - sat, pretendel, dispersed. Nothing ... So Putin left, for the result is "0". Maybe Pesov doesn’t finish something, but hardly. IMHO.
  16. Pafos
    Pafos 3 October 2015 11: 50 New
    -17
    Pancake burned am Now exactly drain LDNR am Do not fight on two fronts camillefo? What is it that turns out tomorrow the Nazis will come to my house? Why are we being driven back to RUIN? What for??? They only began to live humanly, they began to recover only, they began to build, order appeared, drug addicts and urkagans disappeared from the streets, people stopped being afraid to walk at night. And on you back to ANARCHY? To chaos? Thank you. WWII did not expect this betrayal in the back am
    1. Pafos
      Pafos 3 October 2015 12: 48 New
      -3
      Minus those who do not want to face the truth, who do not tell the truth, who do not live in LDNR. All Russia caves in under the mattress
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 3 October 2015 13: 21 New
        +7
        Why are you saying that ...
        Cool "deflection" in Syria. They all sent a forest and flew to bomb.
        And the meaning of such a "deflection" merge New Russia? Is this a perverted masochism? Like, "they punished me for Ukraine, now I give a reason for punishment for Syria"?
      2. unsinkable
        unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 27 New
        +1
        [quote = Pafos] who does not want to face the truth, [/ quote]
        You yourself looked into her eyes, a lie. [Quote = EvgNik]
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 October 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Pafos
      Why are we being driven back to RUIN

      Why did you panic? Who is leaving you and what are two fronts? Have they drunk vodka? And minus either panic or their own Cossacks mishandled. Then - minus not for the truth, but for the position chosen by the author of the comment. But for the next comment, I would minus, oh well, write off the stress.
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: EvgNik
        And minus either panic or their own Cossacks mishandled. Then - minus not for the truth, but for the position chosen by the author

        It’s not logical. Why is it that * their * will be minus? He is * a mishandled Cossack * to create panic and negativity.
    3. Senior manager
      Senior manager 3 October 2015 14: 59 New
      -1
      GDP is the right politician, and in all cases goes towards the goal. We don’t know the final goal at this stage, it’s more accurate to say the goal of this stage, we can only speculate, and therefore, in my opinion, it’s too early to scream “guard on us”, very much like alarmist.
    4. unsinkable
      unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 23 New
      0
      You don’t want to answer, provocateur (i.e. provocateur). fool
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    2. Good me
      Good me 3 October 2015 12: 01 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I would blow her .....

      MIKHAN, just words ...

      No matter how much I read, that one would be "blown away", then another ...

      Maybe enough, do boltology?

      Or just in words lol ?
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 3 October 2015 12: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: Good I
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I would blow her .....

        MIKHAN, just words ...

        No matter how much I read, that one would be "blown away", then another ...

        Maybe enough, do boltology?

        Or just in words lol ?

        laughing laughing Of course in words ... I am for Russia, and not for pleasure! hi Well, if you need to infiltrate .... wassat
    3. Xergey
      Xergey 3 October 2015 12: 04 New
      0
      Hare, in the same place everything is wrinkled and turned into a rag))))).
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 3 October 2015 12: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: KSergey
        Hare, in the same place everything is wrinkled and turned into a rag))))).

        You can develop ... But carefully! drinks
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 3 October 2015 12: 58 New
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: KSergey
          Hare, in the same place everything is wrinkled and turned into a rag))))).

          You can develop ... But carefully! drinks

          MIKHAN this would blow? Immediately in BV there will be peace. The household will collect bottles for you around the apartment. The opposition accused Sarah of ... handing out empty bottles left over from receptions at the premier’s residence, as well as from milk and juice, and appropriating the received thousands of shekels, rather than handing them over to the treasury
      2. unsinkable
        unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 39 New
        0
        Quote: KSergey
        turned into a rag

        Meehan for Russia is even ready for such a sacrifice. wassat
    4. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 October 2015 13: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I would blow her .....

      Well, you Mikhan and a pervert ... By the way, I notice this is not the first time. Whatever shameful face - this would be the best for everyone.
    5. unsinkable
      unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I would be her

      Meehan, you know who minus you.? Standing in line. laughing
    6. nemec55
      nemec55 3 October 2015 16: 24 New
      0
      I would blow her ...

      Damn it ... Do not be afraid that her blower is longer and wider hi lol
    7. KRIG55
      KRIG55 3 October 2015 19: 39 New
      0
      Caution! She looks more like a female mantis.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 October 2015 11: 51 New
    +2
    What is there to crucify before the sixes! The gesture is meaningful. Petsya again got "tough", wiped himself off, and set off to fulfill the suicidal plan of these agreements. By the way, when Merkel and Hollande called him to Berlin on the day of the celebration of Independence and carved there, Putin did not even go. What for? With bringing the Piglet to a common denominator, the less significant members of 3 + 1 will also cope (what kind of four there is, one laugh). But when Petsya suddenly began to spew pearls, like Minsk can be disavowed after the expiration of the statute of limitations, it was apparently followed by extremely hard bashing. It is unlikely that the brains were set in his place for a long time, but the term now is not limited! And something needs to be done, although I do not want to.
  19. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 3 October 2015 11: 58 New
    -2
    LDNR is left to find gas, and then amazing things will start to happen :-)
    1. Good me
      Good me 3 October 2015 22: 40 New
      0
      Quote: rosarioagro
      LDNR is left to find gas, and then amazing things will start to happen :-)


      You apparently do not taste well that the Shell company, not long before the Maidan, “laid eyes on” the so-called Yuzovskoye shale gas field.

      Incidentally, the richest by the standards of such ...
  20. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 3 October 2015 11: 58 New
    0
    [quote = MIHAN] [quote]
    I would blow her ..... [/ quote]

    Not Julia 7 years ago was better, this one is scary as a thousand Gabonese.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 3 October 2015 12: 17 New
      +2
      [quote = AK-74-1] [quote = MIHAN] [quote]
      I would blow her ..... [/ quote]

      Not Julia about 7 years ago was better, this one is scary as a thousand Gabonese. [/ Quote]
      Well, there are many such hunters ...)))) And I go for Russia to scary and evil bitch ..! crying Because it is necessary ..
      I’ll leave you such .... (I know a lot about them))))
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 47 New
        +1
        laughing
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I'm going to Russia for terrible and evil bitch ..!

        Meehan, I respect you for sacrificing yourself. Do not pay attention to chaste critics, trample everyone who the topper looks at. drinks hi
  21. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 October 2015 12: 13 New
    +6
    Well said, but late ... Ukraine will "ripen in silence" and its own juice! (except Donbass) .. We will wait!
  22. Foresterer
    Foresterer 3 October 2015 12: 36 New
    0
    I look forward to Parashenko’s interpretation, in what he was dipped into, I’m sure I saw another overturn. A strange confectioner, to him that guano that candy, he sculpts both the one and the other, and the same and that and the other he wanders. But svidomye yesterday on the censor did not understand such an appeal, specifically they threaten the Maidan. You can check the weather with them: they start to jump - to the cold!
  23. Alexander_
    Alexander_ 3 October 2015 12: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: Good I
    The real withdrawal of troops will be the FULL RELEASE of the territory occupied by Ukraine

    Rather than Ukraine, and the junta.
  24. Pafos
    Pafos 3 October 2015 12: 46 New
    -12
    I look at the sofa ENERALS and I understand that here gathered P R I D U R K I am In legal language I explain THIS DRAINING LDNR !!! If even the elections are postponed, and according to Ukrainian law, ALL THE TOMORROW Fascists WILL COME !!! But aren't Vova’s words that he sees Ruin as an integral state ??? The curtain closes DRAIN ..... We pack things and bring down to ANTARCTICA laughing
    1. An60
      An60 3 October 2015 18: 00 New
      0
      Is it all gone? Did you learn the penguin language?
    2. northern
      northern 3 October 2015 20: 22 New
      0
      Too much pathos. There's no censor, dude, exhale. And get off the capsule.
  25. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 3 October 2015 12: 47 New
    +2
    Quote: Pafos
    Thank you. WWII did not expect this betrayal in the back


    A few days ago, a military operation began in Syria. The West immediately raised a howl, not at all by chance: those same terrorists (whether IS or other moderate ones) were created by the West (states), financed by them, there is a struggle again with them. An endless stream of crazy money to fight with yourself. The media outlets that are not countable are imbued with Western media. In total, summing up everything (from the media to the financing of terror and the fight against them), we will take a trillion for an even account. And this trillion fell under the rink. Several decades of Western investment fly into the pipe. It is necessary to save these investments. It seems that 5 billion was invested in the Ukraine project (according to the media). What do you think: what will the Americans and the West save first? My opinion is that now, to put it mildly, they are not up to Ukraine. And this is the best help from Putin.
    The meeting in Normandy was planned much earlier, before the events in the UN and Syria. Such meetings for 2-3 days are not canceled. But there was essentially no sense from her. The Germans and the paddling pool had other, more important problems. Negotiations lasted about 4,5 hours. Upon its completion, Vladimir Putin immediately left, and did not participate in the press conference. He did everything and said before, it was an on-call meeting about nothing. Time works for New Russia, good luck and success!
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      1. alicante11
        alicante11 3 October 2015 13: 30 New
        +2
        So, what is next? Will you vote for the Nazis? Then it is not you who are merged, but you are merged. The elections are planned to be held under the control of LDNR, i.e. under the control of Russia. But the OSCE will only observe, and the junta will only participate at all. So go ahead, you have been given the opportunity to legitimize - go for it.
        However, most likely, there will be no elections either in the Donbass or in the Ruin. The porosity cannot do everything; the Minsk agreement obliges him. He most likely gut wound around the neck. The Americans themselves, by the hands of right-wingers.
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 3 October 2015 13: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Pafos
        It’s disgusting to look at these four.

        Do not look, and then it will be a shame for words.
        1. Mik-51
          Mik-51 3 October 2015 17: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: Pafos
          It’s disgusting to look at these four.

          Do not look, and then it will be a shame for words.

          When the provocateurs were ashamed of their activities.
          This is the first.
          And the second and main - before the start of all this sore in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions there were almost 8 million inhabitants.
          We take for every XNUMXth "man" ... Of these, we consider half to be weak cowardly slobber, or simply - not able to hold weapons.
          Where are the remaining 350-400 thousand men!?!
          On the run? Where are the "mighty miners" about whom they screamed almost every day; "Wait a minute ... !!! The miners will rise ..."
          In Russia, loot is earned ...
          And that means - in order not to "merge", instead of these men we should send our children to death?
          Fuck you ...
      3. An60
        An60 3 October 2015 18: 02 New
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        But you look ...
  26. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 3 October 2015 13: 39 New
    +1
    It’s difficult for me to judge precisely your successes (I’m afraid to undeservedly offend or insult if you are a representative of the New Russia Armed Forces, I apologize in advance).
    We didn’t fight for that am We didn’t die for that am You don't know much am
    Something a lot of cliches, do not you think?

    GDP smiled not only in etiquette, but also in appearance, showing that everything is in order (although everything can be diametrically opposite). It’s like playing poker (normal, at the table) - you don’t know how to control your facial expression - you don’t play.
    And about this bunch I wrote a comment above: the bunch is nothing, but no one could cancel it. For 2-3 days of a meeting of this level are not canceled.
    1. unsinkable
      unsinkable 3 October 2015 15: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: S_Baykala
      For 2-3 days, meetings of this level are not canceled.

      I agree with you on-duty meeting.
  27. VadimSt
    VadimSt 3 October 2015 13: 54 New
    +1
    ... at a meeting in the Champs Elysees, the leaders of the Norman Four "checked the clock"
    It seems that they didn’t just lag behind Parashenko, they were still broken!
  28. roskot
    roskot 3 October 2015 14: 50 New
    +2
    And Potroshenko was taken into the campaign. The penny holds in the wind, and then they will bite.
  29. vfqjh
    vfqjh 3 October 2015 14: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
    Regarding the Channel Four and Porosenko

    It would be better if they had an abortion!
  30. ML-334
    ML-334 3 October 2015 14: 57 New
    0
    Petrusha, why don’t you have fun, that you hung your nose. While clapping each other at a meeting, the Frenchman flicked a flask of good vodka from Petrusha’s pocket from his pocket. And we noticed it, it was restrained by force.
  31. Karabin
    Karabin 3 October 2015 18: 06 New
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    They agreed at the meeting that “all the Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretations,” said a spokesman.

    Let me remind you of one of the points in Minsk - 2.
    9. The restoration of full control over the state border by the government of Ukraine in the entire conflict zone, which should begin on the first day after local elections and end after a comprehensive political settlement (local elections in certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions based on the Law of Ukraine and constitutional reform) by the end of 2015, subject to paragraph 11, in consultation and in consultation with representatives of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions within the framework of the Tripartite Contact group.
    Applaud, shout cheers, throw up bonnets. It is for this that militias and volunteers died. Glory to the peacekeeper PU, savior of Donbass and Russia.
    1. northern
      northern 3 October 2015 20: 28 New
      0
      Ukraine will never control this border.
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 3 October 2015 22: 28 New
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        Quote: north
        Ukraine will never control this border

        Judging by the last gatherings of the Norman four will be. Russia will force LDNR to control it. A matter of time and accommodating "the best choice of the Ukrainian people" (c). For complaisance of the latter are responsible Oland-Merkel. Only riot of Svidomo or militias can prevent the cramming of LDNR into dill, which is unlikely. So we'll see the final of the KhPP within a year. Apparently, some guarantees on the Crimea promised Putin.
  32. strelok581
    strelok581 3 October 2015 18: 14 New
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Earlier, Farion demanded to shoot anti-Ukrainian creatures, and also said that Ukraine should become the spearhead of the third world war. In addition, she was maliciously prepared to tear to pieces those who dared to ask why her amiable Tyagnybok was so diligently evading demonstrations of applied heroism in the ATO zone "

    From the positive information about Farion, we only know that, having failed in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada, she wanted to take her own life. Unfortunately, she did not succeed. However, like everything she grabs on to.

    And what, paradoxically, Irina Farion can wish good luck. Taking into account the results of the national dignity that she listed, to which she thoroughly attached her wings, the more good and different farions replenish the Ukrainian government, the sooner Ukraine will recover from this infection. Better complete with bunches. For no one "patriots" does not discredit more effectively than themselves. Well, it’s not for nothing that even the Russian spirit returns to Lviv!

    www.politnavigator.net/farion-okonchatelno-svikhnulas ..

    I would blow her .....


    Do not. She is vile. That’s for me personally not to drink so much vodka.
    It’s better to take off the shoulder than to use this ZHBŷ
  33. MolGro
    MolGro 3 October 2015 18: 15 New
    0
    Everything was clear on Putin’s face)
  34. andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 October 2015 18: 46 New
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  35. Gouging
    Gouging 3 October 2015 20: 07 New
    0
    Interesting photo: Hollande is rubbing something, Merkel is suspiciously squinting at him, Poroshenko is sitting in our pants .... al, well, our smiling-Gioconda is relaxing with her mysterious smile. wink
  36. Spike
    Spike 3 October 2015 20: 30 New
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Earlier, Farion demanded to shoot anti-Ukrainian creatures, and also said that Ukraine should become the spearhead of the third world war. In addition, she was maliciously prepared to tear to pieces those who dared to ask why her amiable Tyagnybok was so diligently evading demonstrations of applied heroism in the ATO zone "

    From the positive information about Farion, we only know that, having failed in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada, she wanted to take her own life. Unfortunately, she did not succeed. However, like everything she grabs on to.

    And what, paradoxically, Irina Farion can wish good luck. Taking into account the results of the national dignity that she listed, to which she thoroughly attached her wings, the more good and different farions replenish the Ukrainian government, the sooner Ukraine will recover from this infection. Better complete with bunches. For no one "patriots" does not discredit more effectively than themselves. Well, it’s not for nothing that even the Russian spirit returns to Lviv!

    www.politnavigator.net/farion-okonchatelno-svikhnulas ..

    I would blow her .....

    Was it not enough for you psaki?
  37. samarin1969
    samarin1969 3 October 2015 21: 58 New
    0
    “At the meeting, they agreed that“ all (!) Minsk agreements should be implemented without any interpretation, ”said the spokesman.“ .... everything else is a good mine with ... The plot about the DPR, as in the movie “Wild geese. "