The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: the number of draft dodgers decreases, the percentage of young people’s fitness for military service is growing

The General Staff of the Armed Forces in the first days of the autumn draft campaign in the Russian Federation publishes statistics on the conscription of Russians for military service. According to the official representative of the Ministry of Defense - the head of the main organizational-mobilization department of the General Staff Yevgeny Burdinsky, the ranks of the Russian army will join 147,1 thousand young people. According to Burdinsky, it should be noted that every year the number of young people who cannot perform military service for health reasons decreases.

TASS cites the statement of a military official:

Over the past 4 of the year, we have increased youth fitness for military service by 6%.

As you can see, the figure is still very modest, but, most importantly, there has been a positive trend.

Yevgeny Burdinsky told the press about other important statistics. According to him, the number of those who evade conscription in Russia has decreased by 15% in comparison with the previous reporting period.

Planned activities of the recruiting campaign are held throughout Russia, including the territory of the Crimean Federal District. For the first time, Crimeans who received Russian citizenship began to be called up for military service in the Russian Federation in the spring of this year. At the moment, it is known that the majority of the Crimean recruits serve in the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

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[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Now they are calling for birth in 1997. Hunger was gone. Products in bulk. But the birth rate was still low.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Now they are calling for birth in 1997. Hunger was gone. Products in bulk. But the birth rate was still low.

it seems until 2003 somewhere, the birth rate was very small

[st25310]

Soldiers of steel will soon come to the aid of the military.

[marlin1203]

Well, why not serve now - 1 year in total, combat training, no household work, food like in a sanatorium. Just called up, it's time to go home. So it's easier to serve than to look for illegal "slope" schemes. Yes, and in the future, the children will not be hindered by the military service mark in their careers. In addition, there is an opportunity for the most intelligent people to get into a military school, where there are frenzied competitions now.

[Sterlya]

Quote: marlin1203

Well, why not serve now - 1 year in total, combat training, no household work, food like in a sanatorium. Just called, it's time to go home already

for sure, I somehow didn’t even think about it. 1 year, you will not have time to get bored

[Dr. Bormental]

They wrote everything right. I work in a military medical institution, and accordingly I communicate with conscripts. The guys are very happy. Such a big "lightning" for them. And they shoot and shoot and whatever you want. The food is good, the tremors are not washed, I no longer hear about hazing. The only complaint about the form is that it is blown out, gets wet, etc. And it all started when Shoigu came.

[Dr. Bormental]

They wrote everything right. I work in a military medical institution, and accordingly I communicate with conscripts. The guys are very happy. Such a big "lightning" for them. And they shoot and shoot and whatever you want. The food is good, the tremors are not washed, I no longer hear about hazing. The only complaint about the form is that it is blown out, gets wet, etc. And it all started when Shoigu came.

[ssn18]

If this is true, then who is stopping you from personally writing to S.K.Shoygu. Thank God, times are different and you can write to any minister and President of the Russian Federation, t.p. without taking your ass off the chair.

[HollyGremlin]

Do you speak from a personal experience or cliche? If it’s personal, then I’m out of luck.
A year ago, on business, I was at a higher military educational institution. I decided to save time - go to eat in the dining room, and honestly it was curious to be like watching.
It was worse than nuclear war. There are no words how everything was bad. I did not even understand what was on the plate, and this is not an exaggeration.

[nils]

Quote: HollyGremlin

Do you speak from a personal experience or cliche?

RAS Shabunova A.A. monograph "Public health in Russia: state and dynamics":
Small positive changes cannot be regarded as the beginning of a steady change in the public health of the Russian population for the better. Of particular concern is the deterioration in the health of children and adolescents.
An alarming trend is the growing disability of the child population. Since 1990, the number of disabled children has increased 3,3 times. However, according to experts, the real number of children with disabilities in Russia in 2 - 2,5 times exceeds the officially registered level.
Children's health potential decreases, as evidenced by the increase in their overall incidence from 1998 to 43%, increasing on average by 4% annually.

Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Professor A.A. Baranov, Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Union of Pediatricians of Russia: We only have 5-10 percent of healthy children.

Given the fact that Russia ranks first in the world in the number of teenage suicides, such URA articles are intended to cover up the reality that is disastrous for the titular nation by the ruling clan of domestic politics.

[Asadullah]

We have only 5-10 percent of healthy children.

And the great psychiatrists of our time, say that there are no mentally healthy people at all, there is only an undefined diagnosis. Apparently this applies to pediatricians in the first place.

[Asadullah]

I did not even understand what was on the plate, and this is not an exaggeration.

And what was in the plate?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: HollyGremlin

decided to save time - go to eat in the dining room, and honestly it was curious to be like watching.
It was worse than nuclear war. There are no words how everything was bad. I didn’t even understand what was on the plate

Come on ... You, a business traveler, will not be allowed to "save time" in the cadets' cafeteria, and in the chipka it is, firstly, not quite an army cafeteria, and secondly, I remember Soviet chips, but now I won’t be surprised if McDonald's or some other KFC operate in chips ... Chipok is not a cadet's and, moreover, not a soldier's canteen. They used to go to the Chipok not to EAT, but to eat biscuits. And eat something in the soldier's. And what is absolutely certain - neither in the Soviet era, nor now, I see a single kid who would have lost weight in the army. Let not my mother’s pies, but a lot of calories. And when in the fresh air, with good physical activity, in a healthy team and calories from the heart, then, as I wrote above, 65 kg of jelly comes, and 90 kg of beef leaves.

[HollyGremlin]

I will not lie, maybe I'm in terminology and made a mistake. But:
1. There was definitely an inscription "dining room" above the entrance.
2. When I went in formation for a meal.
The room was already very large, divided into zones, and I thought that the rooms are combined for the sake of economy. I have little relation to military universities, so do not be offended if you made the wrong conclusions.
I repeat once again: I will be glad to be mistaken if everything is fine with the meal.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: marlin1203

Well, why not serve now - 1 year of everything

So I think what can a fighter be taught in a year?
Nowadays, at least NVP was taught in schools and certainly everything was dismantled, and then they shot at the shooting range, and physical training was at the level.
We have in our city the RF, which is well-known in the Union, whose warehouses are located in one of the city parks. While walking with the children, I always treated the guys on guard and with cigarettes, even such a tradition appeared and here, as usual, I hail the fighter, treat him with a smoke and ask, and where is the gun and bayonet-knife? The soldier says it is not due to us! I'm in ah ... shock, I ask, how much do you serve? Answers seven months, demobilization is coming soon Finally TIN !!!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stroporez

always treated the guys on guard with cigarettes

Quote: Stroporez

I hail the fighter, treat me with a smoke and ask, but what about the automatic rifle and the bayonet-knife? The soldier says

Bring a fighter’s monastery?

Quote: Stroporez

and the automatic submachine gun and bayonet-knife? The soldier says it is not due to us!

But what about "Stop, I will shoot"?

Quote: Stroporez

this is a regiment of one Red Banner Airborne Division

A strange regiment ..

[Sling cutter]

Hey Ya!

Quote: Cat Man Null

Bring a fighter’s monastery?

Nooooo, distract them from telefonfff iaypadoff nizzyzyayayaya

Quote: Cat Man Null

But what about "Stop, I will shoot?"

From a sapper blade and in the city center?

Quote: Cat Man Null

A strange regiment ..

I’ll shoot a video for you, and now I’m not joking ...

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stroporez

Nooooo, distract them from telefonfff iaypadoff nizzyzyayayaya

That is, there are sentries talking on the phone ??

Where the world is katitso .. we all

Or is it not sentinel yet? Then the question is - what is he outside the guardhouse .. doing? His business is to sleep, or to grind charters ..

Quote: Stroporez

From a sapper blade and in the city center?

Well, at least they would give him a bayonet-knife ... just for decency ..

Quote: Stroporez

I’ll shoot a video for you, and now I’m not joking ...

Do not.. the enemy does not sleep

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Cat Man Null

His business is to sleep, or to grind charters ..

My friend, all our charters have remained in our Glorious Socialist past

Quote: Cat Man Null

Well, at least they would give him a bayonet-knife ... just for decency ..

I myself am in ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shock

Quote: Cat Man Null

Do not .. the enemy does not sleep

well yes, they’ve been sleeping all night behind a hunchback bridge

[Asadullah]

A strange regiment ..

Uh-huh. The strangest thing is that you can go to the "warehouses" of the regiment and talk to the guard.

[Asadullah]

So I think what can a fighter be taught in a year?

Can be introduced to the Army and Navy. If the acquaintance is successful, then the guy will stay there for twenty years at least.

[would]

This is if you get into the appropriate part ... well, if not, then everything can be exactly the opposite. As well as always.

[Sling cutter]

actually it’s a regiment of one Red Banner Airborne Division

[Karabanov]

There is a twofold opinion about the current service.
I talked with young boys who had recently served ... And it seemed that the guys went to the resort. So varied my urgent service in the 90s with the current ...
There are, of course, positive aspects, such as the absence of unnecessary outfits (like kitchen, peeling potatoes), and more combat training. Even an hour's sleep is provided! (which I once could only dream of). But such hothouse conditions do not make them a labor soldier, especially since the term has been reduced to a year, which flew by unnoticed for me, and I began to think about something just after a year of drill and those conditions of survival (hazing, etc.). Actually, it was much easier on a business trip, because became a "hardened warrior".
I think there should be an alternative solution, but I am deeply convinced that a year for a soldier to receive basic skills is clearly not enough.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Karabanov

but I am deeply convinced that the year for a soldier to receive basic skills is clearly not enough.

I agree!
Six months of training, in our time, absolutely did not give an understanding of what was happening in the troops.
They taught me hard both with words and with dumbbells, and sometimes with teeth, "for especially gifted", political instructors worked many things explained competently and easily.
It was already a bit difficult for the troops for the first month, but the grandfathers, along with the Lyuli, taught life and survival on the adjacent territory.
Memory is a strange thing, I don't remember anything bad about the service, but I remember the Boys (and "grandfathers" and "spirits") with some kind of light nostalgia ...
and many names were erased .. and deeds ... and heroism ..
There remained some bright feeling of universal unity, common ideals and extraordinary strength of mind from the awareness of the greatness of this community ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: marlin1203

Well, why not serve now - 1 year of everything

The coolest thing is that they have a hundred days at 365 days of service. At acquaintances the son is about to return. And, sorry, do they have elephants? Or are they immediately called upon by scoops? And a neighbor in the country has a son from "jackets", recently went to training camps for two weeks (!). Came with a bandaged hand. I thought an enemy bullet almost killed the hero in battle, but he ripped open his hand - he fastened the captain's stars to the epaulettes ... Military, damn it ...

In addition, there is the opportunity for the most sensible military school to get to where frenzied contests are now.

Previously, during the Soviet era, it was impossible to get to Ryazan without urgent help. Of course, the service is not a guarantee of receipt, but still somehow calmer ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Hunger was gone.

And when was he?

[pv1005]

Hunger is not hunger, but conscripts in the 90s often came across with a deficit of weight and meat and butter that were practically not eaten.

[Volodin]

If God and you have saved you and your family from non-payment of salaries and pensions for the year (and more), then not everyone was so lucky in 90.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Volodin

If God and you have saved you and your family from non-payment of salaries and pensions for the year (and more), then not everyone was so lucky in 90.

Anything happened, only I do not remember the famine.

[Vladimirets]

How many starving people got out Do any of you have any idea what hunger is?

[Karabanov]

Quote: Vladimirets

Does any of you imagine what hunger is?

Would you like to talk about this?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Karabanov

Would you like to talk about this?

Why the question, come on.

[mosquito]

"yap", do not talk about HUNGER! ...

[ssn18]

If you haven't starved, that's good. But there is no need to speak (write) for everyone. My friend, a designer from God, had to "sit down" for a couple of years for converting gas workers into combat. At the plant there is no salary, the wife is the head teacher, there is no salary, but two boys need to be fed and taught. A man came out a year later on parole and the owner asked very much to stay in the zone as a technologist.

So, dear mosquit, in terms of hunger, please shut up.

[ZU-23]

You can go to such an army all your life, they’ll go to serve, they will remove the burden on the family budget for parents, until the price per barrel rises

[Castor]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
Hunger was gone.
And when was he?

In the period 1990-1997. it was hard. Voentorg almost stopped supplying food. You will go to the city as elders, everyone asks to bring bread, but in the store they do not sell so much, they also call them a speculator. And they do not understand that every officer cannot go from the "point" to buy groceries every day.
There was a time when they were fed with NATO dry rations as "humanitarian aid". There was also bread in them, only a little and not tasty.

[Penetrator]

Now they are calling for birth in 1997. Hunger was gone. Products in bulk. But the birth rate was still low.

Low-low, but we are called up 147 thousand, and in Ukraine - 11 thousand. Moreover, the population in Russia is only 3,5 times more than in Ukraine. That is, with such a proportion, there should be Ukrainian recruits somewhere around 40 thousand. What is the catch?

[Mordvin 3]

Probably the fact that all the youth in Russia hit the road.

[Hubun]

always infuriated how some were proud that they slanted from the army

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Hubun

always infuriated how some were proud that they slanted from the army

that's for sure!

[ssn18]

It is not strange, but not you alone.

[mosquito]

There was no hunger at all ...
Yap...

[Volodin]

Quote: mosquit

There was no hunger at all ...

In Romania? ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Volodin

In Romania? ..

Tell me honestly, have you been starving?

[Volodin]

I was left without a father when I was in the second grade of school. My mother was left without work. I know what to starve. It got to the point that the neighbors had to ask for elementary - bread.

But because your tirade, and even with a caustic smile, for me looks like a personal insult. I'm talking about this:

How many starving povylazilo laughing, of you at least someone represents what is hunger?

I tell you one more time: if this cup has passed you, then you should not make fun of what happened in the lives of others. It sounds blasphemous.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Volodin

I was left without a father when I was in the second grade of school. My mother was left without work. I know what to starve. It got to the point that the neighbors had to ask for elementary - bread.

I sincerely sympathize with you, but such a situation, which you cannot wish for the enemy, can happen at any time that is most favorable for everyone else.

Quote: Volodin

And therefore, your tirade, and even with a caustic smile, looks to me like a personal insult.

I repeat once again, I didn’t mean to offend you, but “hunger” for a “catchphrase” sounds too grotesque about the 90s. I have relatives from the Tambov province who could tell more about the famine.

Quote: Volodin

if this cup has passed you, then you do not need to make fun of what was in the lives of others. That sounds blasphemy.

In these very times, my family stood on the ground with cancer, who all the free time, and who all the time, planted and dug potatoes, mowed hay, etc. Therefore, they did not starve, and they could buy something else, while others went swimming and drinking vodka, not forgetting to scold the authorities. Do not think that I am addressing you.

[Volodin]

Quote: Vladimirets

a situation that the enemy does not want, can happen at any time, the most successful for everyone else.

It is indisputable.

I will give one example of continuing to think about hunger. In my conversation with modern students (not so long ago), the conversation turned to the blockade of Leningrad. In general, I talked for a long time about cutting the lines of communication with the "mainland", about bombing, about cards, about the difficulties of using the road of life, and suddenly one of the young people says: "I don't understand what hunger could be - are they the fish in the Neva or the Gulf of Finland could not catch how much to catch, or what? "

That's what the answer is ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Volodin

In my conversation with modern students (not so long ago), the conversation turned to the blockade of Leningrad. In general, I talked for a long time about cutting the lines of communication with the "mainland", about bombing, about cards, about the difficulties of using the road of life, and suddenly one of the young people says: "I do not understand what hunger could be - are they the fish in the Neva or the Gulf of Finland could not catch how much to catch, or what? "
That's what the answer is ...

I loved and love G. Matveev's books "Green Chains" and "Tarantula", which are very necessary for the younger generation. So I remember how many people the main character Mishka Alekseev made happy with a salmon, a jammed bombing on the Neva. And the answer is simple: let them imagine that tomorrow there is nothing in the shops and how many of them will be able to catch fish in the nearest river.

[Baloo]

I know a doctor who during this period of EBN’s board fed patients as much as he could, passed through a nurse, as if asked to transfer at the entrance.

[Reserve officer]

Guys, don’t talk about hunger. Starving and malnourished are two different things. In the 90s it was possible to live. This is not the Great Patriotic War and not the evacuation. In the family of my father, four of his brothers died during evacuation to Central Asia. It is from hunger. Their mother almost lost her mind, her father barely survived.
True, do not. In the 90s, no one boomed, but no corpses lay on the streets.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Reserve officer

Starving and malnourished are two different things.

Apparently, not all of these distinguish.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Volodin

In Romania? ..

If we had coupons and you’ll buy horseradish even for meat, then there was everything in the shops in Kamchatka. They became hardened when they arrived on the mainland and became even more hardened who traveled to the Kamchatka from the mainland.

[ssn18]

They just sold it. What else to expect from the Romanians.

[a housewife]

HUNGER - was not, yes. But the big problem with the food was !!! There was no money. In stores - empty shelves. Even for some time it was bad with bread - it's on the KUBAN! Personally, our family was saved only by the subsidiary farm of parents - potatoes, greens, vegetables, everything. More rabbits and wild boar. This is the husband’s parents. My parents at the cement plant were workers - they sold food packages there, the plant took barter products. Does anyone remember that? Yes, even the sea - you could always buy fish in the market. And the most annoying is that at the same time there was regularly information about tons of discarded products. In addition to wrecking, this can not be called!

[Baloo]

uncle Vasya Sayapin (1 Now they are calling for birth in 1997. There was no more hunger

I confirm the opinion of Uncle Vasya. Once with the commission, we went to the district center, where there were most medical bends. Really 89-92g. Mothers are malnourished, children are malnourished, in a word shibzdiki mostly 162-168 tall, not a single taller. Almost all stooped, flat feet.
MoE should oversee and sponsor school sports in order to have a suitable contingent. Not physical education, but sports and competitions in sports that develop coordination of movements, team spirit and endurance: a hand ball. swimming, volleyball, besket, skiing. To prevent children from hanging out, regular weekend competitions between classes, schools, districts, etc. The school should be a sports center of the neighborhood.

[sherp2015]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Now they are calling for birth in 1997. Hunger was gone. Products in bulk. But the birth rate was still low.

I don’t know about you, but it was precisely at this time that they gave us a bag of flour, 3 liters of sunflower oil to help not glue the fins, since the salary was terribly small in relation to the prices of goods and products.
And by 1999, the year (another son was born), the food situation was simply critical. (North-Caucasian Federal District) And someone turned up black caviar in large cans.
So not everything is so simple ...

[Sterlya]

Nowadays, they did not know at all that it was possible to evade service

[kil 31]

Quote: Sterlya

Nowadays, they did not know at all that it was possible to evade service

It was the other way around. When I was at the military registration and enlistment office, there were pieces of paper from the USSR on the back side of the papers in color and large text. SW parents if your child has any chronic diseases must be reported to the commission in the draft board because they want to serve in the SA and hide the disease. Something like this.

[Aleksandr1959]

A peasant was considered inferior if he did not serve. If he did not serve an emergency, then many people after institutes served as officers for two years. And although some of them came, to say the least. not quite ready for service, in two years they became quite decent officers. There were exceptions. And it came to funny things. One guy, after graduating from RCIIGA, was supposed to serve as an airplane technician for two years, and he had a very good option in the police, and it was urgent enough. And he had to quit due to discredit. What has he done for this ... a separate song.
A year ago, a guy in his 35s went on a contract to the Pskov Airborne Division. He tried several times, but doctors wrapped up due to a wound in Chechnya, but managed to break through. Well done!

[Retvizan 8]

I would even say that in our time it was a "trap" not to go to the army!

[svp67]

And it pleases, as it corresponds to the TRUTH. Really young people, and what is most curious, GIRLS, are increasingly expressing a desire to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. So that the Russian Defense Ministry is on the right track

[clidon]

As soon as money and apartments arrived there, the people immediately came there. Especially girls.

[veksha50]

"the number of draft evaders in Russia has decreased by 15% in comparison with the previous reporting period" ...

It is necessary to work and work on educating young people ... In Soviet times, the girl would not marry a woman who did not serve in the Kuban ... This would be a disgrace (except for the disease, of course) ... The guys themselves were eager for service ...

PS And again, to all that has been said - initially all this patriotic work should be done by grandfathers and fathers ... in the family ...

[am808s]

That's right. When I was wrapped in a military registration and enlistment office, 79g was insulting to tears. Father said do not worry about your life, there will still be enough wars and victories. The Old Man was right! Only at that moment I considered myself flawed.

[combat66]

A healthy state is a healthy people!
Only recently recruited contract servicemen in the Rostov province are remembered. Interestingly, the military prosecutor’s office filed a case? Weed requires removal with root and tip.

[katalonec2014]

It is gratifying to hear that the prestige of Amiya is changing for the better, there is a choice to appeal to the most trained. This is the merit of Shoigu, he introduced scientific companies, this was when Tank Biathlon, Aviadarts, presidential corps appeared, I think this all played a significant role.

[DMoroz]

That's what it means to work to change attitudes towards the army ... Soon, a contest in the military registration and enlistment offices will be upon conscription. Yes, and the TRP returned

[Armored optimist]

Conclusion: People heal both physically and mentally and psychologically!

[a.hamster55]

Yes, and young people will learn something practical, otherwise they don’t know everything in computer and elementary toys

[Vitaly Anisimov]

But shaw it is ... !!!!! Russia ahead !!!!

[mamont5]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Hunger was gone.

And when was he?

As such, there was no famine, but times were difficult. I had to spin to feed the family.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: mamont5

but times were difficult. I had to spin to feed the family.

Who argues with this.

[vovanpain]

I remember in our school there was such an elementary elementary military training, and in general it was believed that if the army did not serve, it was some kind of defective one, not a single girl would have such novels.

[NDR-791]

At the expense of the deviators, it may be. Nevertheless, the prestige of the army was greatly increased. But at the expense of health, so let me disagree. The percentage of people passing by health is set by the bar. At the time when my father served, they did not take into the army with flat feet. We have already been taken, and the modern conscript knows what kind of beast such "flat feet" is? In short: do you have an index finger? - there is! Do you have one eye? - there is? Good !!! And if you piss, you will sleep on the lower tier ... (JOKE)! Still, it would be good for those who did not serve to be banned from holding some positions (mainly related to responsibility). So actually it was before - I cut you through the "durka" - they will even take you to a serious plant as a cleaner with a look around. And it really was!

[Vladimir 1964]

Over the past 4 of the year, we have increased youth fitness for military service by 6%.

As a former employee of the military registration and enlistment office, a year after he quit, he is forced to state that Mr. Burdinsky is for some reason disingenuous.
Unfortunately, the health situation of draftees over the past 4 years has not only not stabilized but is getting worse, and diseases of the musculoskeletal system become the main contraindication, in other words, every third draftee has scoliosis to one degree or another.

Somehow unfortunately so.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

They stopped painting the grass and "digging from the fence until lunchtime," and began to engage in real activities. So there are fewer people who want to evade the service.
After all, who wants to polish borders for a whole year?

[erased]

According to the State Duma, there are rumors of a new decree - a ban on the sale of alcohol to people under 21 years of age. The road to HELL is lined with good intentions! Then it is necessary to raise the draft age to 21 years. And the right to vote, to occupy government posts raise to 21 years. And the rights to cars and weapons. In a word, everything! Otherwise, rubbish comes out - we trust the boys at the age of 18, and the right to decide to drink or drink - no! Silly. Like much that comes out of the corridors of power structures. Either one deputy blurt out something, then another. PR at the expense of the people.
Here they are the real enemies - the invaders of government agencies and all kinds of thoughts. They will take a chair, sit on the grandmother, but they can’t do anything. And to remind themselves - they begin to drive the blizzard.
Sour somehow, people.

[NDR-791]

Small amendment. This law is not introduced, but returned. He was already at the time of "perestroika and new Russia." Then it was canceled. And at the expense of the guys with weapons, well, what can I say ... I walked with a gun for two years (part of it was on the database) and no special officer loomed behind me. And 25 years later, I have to walk according to licensing systems and it is not a fact that they will be allowed. And on a long-barreled rifled to wait a period of five years Why such difficulties?

[sherp2015]

Quote: NDR-791

And 25 years later I have to go through licensing systems and it’s not a fact that they’ll allow me. And for a long barrel rifled wait a period of five years. Why such difficulties?

Officials and deputies are afraid of people with trunks ...
There have been cases when some banker, police chief or power-holder was messing around, and he passed laws on.
Found "Robin Hood" and spanked the villain.
This is what the authorities are afraid of ...

[lelikas]

Quote: erased

Sour somehow, people.

On the one hand, it seems to be right, and on the other, even if they introduce it, they will still drink.

[narval20]

In reality, in the minds of modern (NORMAL!) Youth over the past 1,5-2 years there has been a noticeable turn towards military service, and in general towards "sovereign affairs."
I judge by university students (I often travel on a business trip around the country).

[Alexey RA]

EMNIP, this year there were several reports of detentions for the bribe of military commissars and doctors.
They took a bribe not to smear conscripts from the army, but to take a conscript into this army.

[EDDI 76]

Th year, then do not serve ... I was called in June 94 and a half, and served 2-type by order)
and now it’s necessary to do the same call for a year and leave at least one and a half
the situation in the world is tense so good fighters are needed in the homeland

[EDDI 76]

Quote: erased

According to the State Duma, there are rumors of a new decree - a ban on the sale of alcohol to people under 21 years of age. The road to HELL is lined with good intentions! Then it is necessary to raise the draft age to 21 years. And the right to vote, to occupy government posts raise to 21 years. And the rights to cars and weapons. In a word, everything! Otherwise, rubbish comes out - we trust the boys at the age of 18, and the right to decide to drink or drink - no! Silly. Like much that comes out of the corridors of power structures. Either one deputy blurt out something, then another. Public relations at the expense of the people. Here they are real enemies - invaders of state structures and all kinds of thoughts. They will take a chair, sit on the grandmother, but they can’t do anything. And in order to remind themselves - they begin to drive the blizzard. Sour somehow, people.

we have a conscription not until 21 but to 27, sort of like before
you apparently did not serve in the army, Marshal)

[Vladimirets]

Quote: EDDI 76

recruiting not until 21 but to 27

The question is not BEFORE, but C.

[Balagan]

Yes, for three years now I have seen how, through court, the guys are seeking draft in the army if they were not taken. So far, however, these are only rural boys. But the trend itself is encouraging.

[astronom1973n]

Quote: NDR-791

Small amendment. This law is not introduced, but returned. He was already at the time of "perestroika and new Russia." Then it was canceled. And at the expense of the guys with weapons, well, what can I say ... I walked with a gun for two years (part of it was on the database) and no special officer loomed behind me. And 25 years later, I have to walk according to licensing systems and it is not a fact that they will be allowed. And on a long-barreled rifled to wait a period of five years Why such difficulties?

I also ran into a licensing system again. In order to extend the permit for weapons of OP (traumatic), now the credit is required to be passed! What time! And this is after 25 years of service on calendars ...

[provincial]

the same, {the last post of the deputy chief of the department of combat training of the army}, as he wanted to acquire "traumatic" in 2007, it costs a lot, so it was necessary to pass the rules and regulations for handling short-barreled weapons for 2000r. He did not argue and prove. As it became insulting and changed his mind.

[moskowit]

The decrease in the number of those who do not want to serve indicates a gradual improvement in society. An optimistic indicator. Another would be to raise the physical condition of conscripts to an acceptable level, allowing them to bear "all the hardships" of military service.

[mosquito]

Do you know the physical condition of conscripts 25-30 years old?
I was a deadhead

[Balagan]

I agree with EDDI 76. A year of service - only reassure my conscience, saying that he gave his homeland a favor ...
The first year he delved into the service (the training was infantry, and part of the artillery). But in the second year I had the best calculation in the regiment. Although I was demobilized in '88, I will work on 2C1 now.
So I’m completely sure that an intelligent specialist is obtained in the second year of service. Two years is not such a long time.

[Leeder]

Quote: Kil 31

Quote: Sterlya

Nowadays, they did not know at all that it was possible to evade service

It was the other way around. When I was at the military registration and enlistment office, there were pieces of paper from the USSR on the back side of the papers in color and large text. SW parents if your child has any chronic diseases must be reported to the commission in the draft board because they want to serve in the SA and hide the disease. Something like this.

Laughter, laughter, and the uncle had enuresis, so he hid it, did not sleep at night, but went to serve. That was the motivation!

[mosquito]

If a "soldier" in the Army is taught military affairs properly - combat + political training 14 hours, food and hygiene 3 hours, sleep - 7 hours, then there will be STRENGTH for "hazing", and most importantly there will be no TIME ...

[AdekvatNICK]

Sorry guys for offtopic but cool video

[NDR-791]

Unfortunately, the BAM did not work in full force, so the video, of course, is beautiful, but ... We will not even put together a complete picture. Example: Four years before the commissioning of objects in Sochi, I talked with the "responsible builder" from our Omsk "Mostovik". The meaning of the conversation
- !!! We have poured 7000 piles under the railway! A command comes in - "Change, a little project, the papers will come later.
The contractor begins to be indignant - they say who will pay for this bend of the railway? Answer: do you know whose land there is? Not!? Well, do not mess, otherwise it will stink ...
- And money??? Well, let's settle something ...
This is a specific conversation with the specific person in charge of the object. I will not say the names of either side of the conflict - wait for the memoirs (if any). Well, or do not wait. So many people worked in Sochi that, to the extreme, there is someone to confirm this sad story without memoirs ...

[Massik]

Well, as you wanted, almost the same - in the trash. Who are local to themselves from the "garbage dumps" in the cottage otrohali.

[sherp2015]

Quote: NDR-791

Answer: do you know whose land there is? No!? Well, do not mess, otherwise it will stink ...

Mendel, is it the earth? Or SamogO?

[old pioneer]

Let me tell you an incident from my life. 1987 year. The draft board, an interview with the military commissar. The military commissar, looking at my file, declares that according to the results of the medical commission, he considers it appropriate to give me a delay of one year - they say to grow up and gain weight. So, after these words I burst into tears. The military commissar was at first taken aback, and then as he barked: "I removed the snot! I opened a swamp, so what kind of a fucking soldier you are?" But I called up with my year !!!!

[Retvizan 8]

I learned how to run cross-country in the army!

[fa2998]

Quote: pv1005

Hunger is not hunger, but conscripts in the 90s often came across with a deficit of weight and meat and butter that were practically not eaten.

And also glue "Moment", marijuana, spice, beer, cocktails and many other "delights". Just the "audience" for this is 12-18 years old. They look healthy, but what do you think WHO protects us?

[mashinist]

About marijuana is not necessary, many masterpieces of film and music, not to mention art, were invented under something a minimum of marijuana, and even acid

[Laksamana besar]

Oh, it would be at the beginning / middle and end of 90's, such an urgent army. I envy the boys with white envy, my son would go off right now, but he would do it, I will spend it after graduation, all the more so he wants to.

[Laksamana besar]

I remember that I served a term for about a year in total (I served more than now) and decided to fuck off, hammered five cartridges from the PM into the heels of the kirzachs, so that sparks were thrown and clicked across the parade ground (we did not have horseshoes and balls, etc.), and a scribe. On the second day, the march was a throw, working boots in another battalion 20 km away. The march was not long 10 km to the shooting range along the ice road, he was already approaching / running up to the shooting range on tiptoe, he beat off his heels, because the heels ceased to spring. Have shot. I was lucky again, we went 12-13 km through the forest through the snowdrifts, slowly, there was no pressure on the heel, in general, gritting my teeth I reached the barracks. The next day or two, I cut out my skin in the heels with nail scissors half a centimeter deep, because the skin died, but recovered quickly, for a few days it was worn out and after a while everything fell into place, "like a baby", but so that I once again in my life hammered sleeves into my heels, nooo ..... :)))
Here's a story from life

[Evgeniy30]

Quote: fa2998

Quote: pv1005

Hunger is not hunger, but conscripts in the 90s often came across with a deficit of weight and meat and butter that were practically not eaten.

And also glue "Moment", marijuana, spice, beer, cocktails and many other "delights". Just the "audience" for this is 12-18 years old. They look healthy, but what do you think WHO protects us?

Nothing, in the army, they will set their brains. :-)

[31R-US]

Of course they will, my neighbor's son serves in the Strategic Missile Forces every five minutes he calls home. Mom, I ate cutlets today, my tummy does not hurt, I'm fine, I’m already a grandfather, the order will come out and I’m demobilized, soon I’ll go home. Comparing service in the USSR, it’s nonsense. I’ve forgotten now, like after dinner, sleep is supposed so that the tummies are not swollen, but “demobilized albums ", as I understand now, they add to the phones.

[Baloo]

What distinguishes colleagues who served? Fit, discipline, accuracy, healthy cynicism and pragmatism.
I only know that the army has spoiled. If a "promising" person with whom you can fuck something, it will be too courteous and ingratiating. If a simple unemployed person is contemptuous, not hiding his irritation. If they ask for someone, they frankly ask: can they say thanks?

[would]

As always, the results of statistics depend primarily on the "game" with her. This is especially true of medical commissions, which sometimes give rise to anecdotal cases when a conscript passes a medical commission, serves, wants to enter a contract, passes another medical commission where it is popularly explained to him that he is unfit for military service. Suitable for a term, not valid for a contract

In addition, it is worth looking at the relevant documents on contraindications for military service. Weight deficit, for example, was removed from there with a sharp increase in the number of suitable ones.

[gcn]

I remember how the medical examination took place back in school, then it turned out that the guys rejected the crazy nut for thirty why I don’t know why. Although I knew everyone, I didn’t notice the bluntness and they weren’t going to mow, and many of them were later than me.

[Aland]

Quote: Sterlya

Nowadays, they did not know at all that it was possible to evade service

That's for sure. Yes, and the girls considered such deb_mi.

[kepmor]

Quote: pv1005

Hunger is not hunger, but conscripts in the 90s often came across with a deficit of weight and meat and butter that were practically not eaten.

After the election of Alkash in 96g. (prezik) our supply at the SF immediately sharply worsened. I started my day by checking whether there were enough products at least for a day on the ships of the division. There are no products, the money was not paid for 2-3 months. Fuels and lubricants stood on guard on duty with 50% at best. The youth of the parish are such that they immediately had to be sent for fattening to the hospital — 30% of dystrophy. I envy the current fleet officers in such conditions, service is a joy. So appreciate what the state gives you and the most important principle of the officer’s service is to honor and return the parents of their sons, alive and well. Good luck to the entire service class — seven feet under the keel!

[Asadullah]

the main thing is that there has been a positive trend.

The most important positive trend is the competition at the RVDKU.

[Uncle Joe]

the number of draft dodgers decreases the percentage of young people's fitness for military service is growing

27.08.2009 Only 20-25% of schoolchildren are healthy - head of the Institute of Age-related Physiology
http://ria.ru/edu_analysis/20090827/182548871.html

20.02.2015/10/XNUMX Doctors sound the alarm: only XNUMX% of children are completely healthy by the end of school
http://www.regnum.ru/news/society/1897774.html





In general, it’s fun to have in a capitalist state, where the Fatherland is officially privately owned, and social guarantees are constantly being cut, conscripts ...

[Cat man null]

Quote: Uncle Joe

27.08.2009 Only 20-25% of schoolchildren are healthy - head of the Institute of Age-related Physiology
http://ria.ru/edu_analysis/20090827/182548871.html

there is no national data on the health of schoolchildren... Separate research institutes conduct local research, collect statistics. For example, studies of the Institute of Developmental Physiology of the Russian Academy of Education show that only 20-25% of children absolutely are healthy

Quote: Uncle Joe

20.02.2015/10/XNUMX Doctors sound the alarm: only XNUMX% of children are completely healthy by the end of school
http://www.regnum.ru/news/society/1897774.html

vegetovascular dystonia, neurosis, trauma at physical education lessons and at breaks, etc.

I'm crying .. "recess trauma" .. uuuuu ...

And not 10, but 25% - they themselves cited the above article .. inconsistency ..

Quote: Uncle Joe

it’s fun to have in the capitalist state, where the Fatherland is officially privately owned, and social guarantees are constantly being cut back on conscripts

Tell the Germans, French and the people of sunny Israel about this. There are also conscripts there, and you can find those dissatisfied with the "social guarantees" in any country.

Together and have fun

Yes .. the picture is a mistake ... the numbers are left .. Uncle Joe, more carefully, more thoroughly ..

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Cat Man Null

there is no national data on the health of schoolchildren

What is the question in this connection?

I'm crying .. "recess trauma" .. uuuuu ...

Neuroses are cooler ...

August 26, 2015 At a training ground in the Kostroma region, a conscript soldier opened fire on his colleagues and committed suicide
http://www.1tv.ru/news/crime/290950

And not 10, but 25% - they themselves cited the above article

See dates - treat eyesight.

Tell the Germans, the French, and the inhabitants of sunny Israel.

Are salaries and social guarantees as a percentage of GDP comparable? Or maybe I wrote somewhere that ordinary Germans, French or Jews are lesser suckers than Russians?

Yes .. little picture

You will soon have nothing to feed the cats with, and you all grimace.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Uncle Joe

What is the question in this connection?

Conclusion? You often refer to data that cannot be verified. Moreover - on data that is not

This is .. unkind and wrong

Quote: Uncle Joe

Neuroses are cooler ...

They were always .. like vegetovascular dystonia, growth diseases, panimyash, then go away, as a rule ..

Quote: Uncle Joe

Watch dates - treat eyesight

And what? I see the dates .. I also see that in the second article the "expert" is an absolutely insane girl .. read the article carefully ..

And also - "there are no healthy people, there are under-examined", doctors will confirm. Since it is about "absolutely healthy" children - you can specify any numbers .. it will still be a lie.

Quote: Uncle Joe

You will soon have nothing to feed the cats ...

My cats are vigorous, healthy and have tails. Here, for example, the youngest:

[Uncle Joe]

You often refer to data that cannot be verified
They were always
totally insane girl
no healthy people, there are unexplored

Nothing.

My cats are awake, healthy and have tails

In extreme cases, you will be devoured

[Cat man null]

Quote: Uncle Joe

You often refer to data that cannot be verified
They were always
absolutely insane girl
no healthy people, there are unexplored

Nothing

It is clear .. for lack of arguments - went flaring.

Lose form, dear

Quote: Uncle Joe

My cats are awake, healthy and have tails

In extreme cases, you will be devoured

"It is unlikely" (c)

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Cat Man Null

I see .. for lack of arguments

To your unsubstantiated and pointless verbal tricks, the essence of which boils down to the fact that something does not suit you, I respond with reluctance to disassemble this your la-la, and simply summarize - about nothing.

"It is unlikely" (c)

Déjé no doubt

[cat hippopotamus]

Well, it pleases that the generation is growing healthier and there is a tendency not to mow but to serve. It remains only for a year to prepare something from it, but how to do it? If only without a break for sleep and day and night to engage? So he will die in three days, well, well, take the course of a young fighter and send him to a demobilization. It’s better then to cancel the urgent one altogether than to set up fake tests for the training of defenders.

[Nikoha.2010]

Quote: cat hippo

Well, it pleases that the generation is growing healthier and there is a tendency not to mow but to serve. It remains only for a year to prepare something from it,

I agree. There is a generation of non-smoking boys. Such notions that beer, cigarettes (I am silent about drugs) are bad - it makes me happy. Whatever they say that young people are all bad, do not believe. BUT! I remembered my term and compared my service in the SA with the current service. We went by train Ekaterinburg-Krasnodar. In Yekaterinburg, a company of motorized riflemen "settled". They drove merrily, the mechanics were brave, they stole a sheet and a pillowcase from the next car for the hem, warmed up the stew in the vestibule on dry fuel, all the talk about the fact that they had served half a year in training, and now it's time to make a Dembel album. Okay. Came out without loss. In Orenburg, a company of railway troops "settled". Skinny, lost, one thought - "Where to hide the SIM card" ... A sergeant walks along the cars! and in plain text: "Hang up the spirits, give us 100 rubles for your mobile phones, they will still take them away from the troops." My wife and I gave the guys all the "Doshiraki", sausage, bread and left in Krasnodar. And the sediment remained.

[TanakaKenshin]

I am embarrassed to ask - WHAT must be done to earn neurosis and trauma at school so successfully that it becomes a problem on an all-Russian scale? I would also understand myopia from the evolving public electronics ...

[KUOLEMA]

Quote: Sterlya

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Now they are calling for birth in 1997. Hunger was gone. Products in bulk. But the birth rate was still low.

it seems until 2003 somewhere, the birth rate was very small

And now my good friend she has risen only in the national republics the titular nation in Russia continues to die out

[rusich]

but don’t say it only in the European part of Russia, people are decreasing, but in our Urals they are growing normally.

[rusich]

kanechno decreases they are fed there as in a sanatorium