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The state of the Syrian army before the decisive battle

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After Russia entered the war (but only in the air) with its own air force, everyone understood that the gravity of the ground operation falls on the Syrian army. It is they who will have to clean up the territory from militants, conduct bloody street battles, etc.


The state of the Syrian army before the decisive battle


Syrian government forces consist of an army, a naval fleetAir Force, Air Defense Forces and several paramilitary forces. As in Russia, the president is supreme commander.

Ground forces consist of three corps - intermediate links between the division and the army. It is impossible to talk about their numbers, there may be a different and non-permanent number of servicemen in each corps.

To estimate the total strength of the Syrian army is also possible only approximately.

It is known that at the beginning of the war it numbered about 325 thousands of soldiers, and now it is two times less — that is, about 150 thousands.


Do not forget about the guard - in her 60 thousands of people.

There are a few thousand more fighters of the Alawite militia and the Shiite group Hezbollah. In addition, there is the Kurdish militia (has about 50 thousands of fighters), but they are armed much worse than the government army.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad called on women to inspect and guard checkpoints in an attempt to plug holes created by desertion and casualties in his army.

At the moment, everyone who wanted to desert has already escaped, leaving only the fighters who have nowhere to retreat. Soldiers know that in the event of a captivity, death awaits them, as it was only recently, when Islamists shot almost 50 people captured: The last battle of the Syrian special forces.

These women are part of the newly formed 10000 Army of the National Defense Forces (NDF).


The Syrian army is armed with mainly Soviet equipment.

Before the war, Damascus had 4700 tanks T-55 and T-72, 3000 artillery pieces, about 4000 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.

Most of this equipment was destroyed during the war.



In addition, the Assad army lost a third of the aircraft and helicopters, and the rest are already inoperative.

According to the Ministry of Defense, over the past day, the Russian aviation in Syria, destroyed 12 ISIS facilities, including a plant, a mini-warehouse and headquarters. Su-24 and Su-25 aircraft made more than 20 sorties during the day and 8 at night.
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  1. Krasmash
    Krasmash 3 October 2015 05: 26 New
    +15
    After Russia entered the war (but only in the air) with its Air Force, everyone realized that the severity of the ground operation rests with the Syrian army. It is they who will have to clean the territory from militants, conduct bloody street battles, etc.

    Not what it is. Russia already helps Bashar the most. And let the imported Muslim allies push the infantry.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 3 October 2015 06: 32 New
      +23
      Not only the Russian Federation, but also Iran began to provide more substantial assistance. The distribution of areas of responsibility has been outlined.
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 3 October 2015 07: 06 New
        +20
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Not only the Russian Federation, but also Iran

        So these are bold countries, not like China, which only dumps and cannot get beyond its territory.
        1. snifer
          snifer 3 October 2015 11: 13 New
          +9
          There was information that China may take part in the fight against black-asses, and about being afraid to get out, if China starts to get out, no one will seem to
          1. marlin1203
            marlin1203 3 October 2015 11: 43 New
            +34
            Well, then ... for the past 150 years, China has definitely not climbed out anywhere, only raked
            . But "right now" will come out and everyone "will not seem enough." Something is doubtful.
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 3 October 2015 12: 24 New
              +10
              A little about the terms you have confused ..)) for the last thousand years, China has not climbed out and has only raked ..! For that they have a good treatise on the war .. they all say .. just something that he did not influence the creators of the treatise ..))!
            2. 23 region
              23 region 3 October 2015 12: 45 New
              +8
              Quote: marlin1203
              Something is doubtful.

              "An Arab resource reports that China’s military contingent is already on its way to Latakia and will arrive at Syrian ports from day to day. Chinese transport with military cargo was spotted on Tuesday morning passing through the Suez Canal.
              The information that the Chinese military experts may arrive in Tartus in the coming weeks was confirmed by the commander of the Syrian army. The publication concludes that Moscow will create an antiterrorist coalition in Syria, which will become an alternative version of the military alliance formed by the United States to drop bulk carriers onto ISIS. The military inclusion of China in the struggle for Syria will be a significant addition to today's statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry. At a press conference at MIA Russia Today, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, Hossein Amir Abdollahiyan, said Iran would fight ISIS with Russia. It is remarkable that Amir is not just talking about an alliance, but about creating a broad military coalition.
              http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/dmitryuspeh/post372651293/
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 3 October 2015 20: 54 New
                +8
                If so, we look forward to it))) ... Igilovtsev is enough for everyone)))) ... The truth is the trouble - ISIS militants say they are deserting and fleeing to Europe)))))))))) The Chinese need faster there oars work, otherwise the war will end until they reach Syria)))))
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            4. neri73-r
              neri73-r 3 October 2015 19: 15 New
              +14
              But "right now" will come out and everyone "will not seem enough." Something is doubtful.


              And you ask the Americans about the Korean War! Ask the Koreans who provided assistance to them, besides the USSR, including human resources!
              1. Talgat
                Talgat 4 October 2015 17: 18 New
                +1
                During the US aggression in Korea in the 1953 year, not only the USSR, but also the People's Republic of China provided assistance to Korea

                If the USSR provided assistance with high technologies (air defense, aviation), then the Chinese fought on earth. Marshal Pen de Huai, and all his soldiers quit the Chinese army, and wrote statements that they had become "volunteers" - and along with weapons and standard equipment, this armada crossed the border and came to the aid of the Koreans

                Now the role of China is played by Iran, aviation and air defense, Russian advisers and equipment

                But the real battles on earth help the Syrians of Iran, the IRGC and Hezbollah.

                I doubt that the Chinese will be brought into battle - because they are easily "bought out" visually - then you won’t wash yourself out in the info - war. And in general, Iran is quite enough here. China is behind the scenes - it supports diplomatically and financially both Iran and Russia, and even Kazakhstan now (we have 7-8 infrastructure investments only in our country - and 10 times more in Russia)

                China needs a stable rear in the northwest. So that we all stand and regularly supply oil, gas, etc., in its future confrontation with the West and the United States
            5. Swed
              Swed 4 October 2015 19: 28 New
              +1
              In defense of the Chinese, I will give an example of the war in Korea, when China was basically peasant. At a critical moment, they were able to stop the American offensive in Korea, and there, practically in their arms, under heavy fire, take out a wrecked American aircraft with the latest electronic equipment and transfer it for study to Soviet scientists. In addition to everything (from the memoirs of veterans of China), they did not let Kozhedub be shot down three times by Hero of the Soviet Union. I’m talking about it, of course, they have little experience of fighting, but I can’t blame them for their dedication and heroism.
          2. Krasmash
            Krasmash 3 October 2015 11: 45 New
            +7
            Quote: snifer
            if China begins to crawl out, no one will seem

            Uh, why then, alone, without the Red Army, the Kwantung group was not defeated. what
          3. Rarahin
            Rarahin 3 October 2015 12: 06 New
            +5
            China has enough of its own “whorls”: Thailand, Japan, Yu. Korea...
            Let the little dragon sit at home.

            NATO and so does not jerk to fight. And with the Chinese show-off - even more so.
          4. sgazeev
            sgazeev 3 October 2015 18: 59 New
            +3
            China will have to get in "voluntarily", they have a view of Syria. Money does not smell, oil, gas and restoration of infrastructure.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 3 October 2015 16: 03 New
          +7
          Quote: Krasmash
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Not only the Russian Federation, but also Iran

          So these are bold countries, not like China, which only dumps and cannot get beyond its territory.

          China as Yanukovych and ours and yours
          1. Krasmash
            Krasmash 3 October 2015 16: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: vovanpain
            Quote: Krasmash
            Quote: oleg-gr
            Not only the Russian Federation, but also Iran

            So these are bold countries, not like China, which only dumps and cannot get beyond its territory.

            China as Yanukovych and ours and yours

            Yes. They really want a lot, but they don’t want to climb into the waste products.
        3. Odysseus
          Odysseus 3 October 2015 16: 05 New
          +4
          Quote: Krasmash
          So these are bold countries, not like China, which only dumps and cannot get beyond its territory.

          What kind of kindergarten? For Iran, the war in Syria is of strategic importance if Assad falls the next target of the Sunni radicals will be Hezbollah and the Shiite south of Iraq. For China, the war in Syria is of third importance. Get involved in a large-scale war against the West (which controls all these Sunni "terrorists") on a secondary section of the front is idiocy.
          And to attack only IGIG and not to touch other anti-Assad forces is work in the USA at all. Do you offer China to work in the USA?
          1. Krasmash
            Krasmash 3 October 2015 16: 50 New
            0
            Quote: Odyssey
            For China, the war in Syria is of third importance.

            Well, then Russia would not have been supported by the UN on this issue, since that war is of third importance to them, business.
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 3 October 2015 21: 07 New
              0
              Quote: Krasmash
              Well, then Russia would not have been supported by the UN on this issue, since that war is of third importance to them, business.

              UN support and participation in a ground operation (like bold Persians) are two big differences. Chinese money and weapons come to Assad (of course, in smaller volumes than the Syrian Express delivers). Although it can be agreed that the PRC is still very passive resisting the US strategy of creating chaos zones in different regions of the world. By acting in this way, the number 1 power will not become one.
              But the question is much more interesting: why did we get into this zone of chaos, not when Assad had every chance to win (2012), but when his position became almost hopeless and most importantly, how are we going to conquer more than half of Syria?
              1. Foxmara
                Foxmara 3 October 2015 23: 16 New
                +1
                Firstly, we got into not only that, but throughout the conflict we consistently supported Syria with both arms and politics. The situation has changed inside of us, which allowed us to provide more complete assistance, and the situation became critical in Syria, when Syria could fall without this help. In fact, we just thwarted US plans for a new European crusade in Syria. We recall the "refugees" from all over Africa, en masse named by the Syrians, moreover such bogeys that you can plow them instead of a horse. All this should explode in the old Europe and, spurred on by the media under the kicks of pen-dos, the European troops should invade Syria, and Assad will be blown away by the Yankees. All this will become impossible in the presence of Russia. We have closed the sky, and no one will contact the Russian Federation. Directly.
                1. Odysseus
                  Odysseus 4 October 2015 03: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Foxmara
                  Firstly, we climbed not only that, but throughout the conflict we consistently supported Syria as a weapon

                  We climbed in militarily, of course. And not in 2011-2012, when we were just persuading Assad to follow the "Annan plan" (that is, the US plans), and not in 2013 when they were persuading us to eliminate chemical weapons, but now when thanks to all of this Assad’s position has become hopeless.
                  If we wanted to protect Assad, save Syria and disrupt US plans to fight in 2011-2012, the Russian government instead acted in exactly the opposite way.
                  Quote: Foxmara
                  In fact, we just thwarted US plans for a new European crusade in Syria.

                  The United States did not have such plans. In general, their strategy is simple and effective - creating chaos zones and drawing into them all their competitors and opponents with a single "stability zone" in the United States. Well, plus, of course, the weakening of all countries potentially threatening Israel in BV. No "European troops" were planning to invade Syria, for this, countless Sunni mercenaries hired with the money of Saudi Arabia and Turkey were enough. But the "refugees" are really a gift from the USA to Europe.
                  Quote: Foxmara
                  and. All this will become impossible in the presence of Russia. We have closed the sky, and no one will contact the Russian Federation. Directly.

                  Countless "oppositionists" quietly crossing open borders will "get in touch" with the Russian Federation. For their liquidation and closure of the borders, ground operations by forces of several armies will be required. Even Iran does not have these forces.
                  That is, the only real goal that can be set now is to protect the coast and Damascus, create a line of defense in the north and south, and then divide the country into 3 parts. The truth is that you need to attack pro-Western rebels, and not ISIS. So far, thank God, this is done.
              2. The stranger
                The stranger 4 October 2015 13: 13 New
                +1
                And everything is simple - climbed on readiness. Both military - technical, and domestic and foreign policy. You can draw the big picture only after at least a little time, but for me it looks that way. In history, "a little time" - probably a hundred years.
                From the beginning - the mid-80s, everyone and everyone worked against you. Including - most of you are. In the sense that the prevailing philosophy has been replaced from construction to consumer, i.e. passive. And everything went downhill. What happened next, most of the local audience saw for themselves. Then what happened sometimes in history happened, although no one knows why and how. It is unlikely that they will tell us where and how Putin came from during our lives, but he arose. He had a ruined state, a people with a broken soul, and the will to fix everything, but almost nothing more. Of the favorable factors - probably only stupidity and problems in the self-esteem of the opposing side. So he took advantage of them. While the other-worldly trolls of the world giggled and hooted at Russia, he carefully mowed down under the fool, bent his own, and even managed to never lie. Only the crowd of monkeys was already incapable of understanding what he was reporting and warning with completely open text.
                Crimea became the turning point in the most difficult struggle - with its own. It was considered by fools as a waste of money on foolish special troops, Europe as an empty imperial suit, Americans as a random petty winner of a village bully. Forgetting about 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, about the missile cruiser that an American aircraft carrier from Damascus sent for sprats, about the Victory Parade this year. Where the head was not Armata, but a foot system. I was writhing with envy, and it would have cost them fear. All this together is already a strategic mistake, it is no longer just troll nonsense. So slowly they came to Syria. It's one thing to read the performance characteristics of bombs and airplanes, to catch a glimpse of tactics and operational ideas, and another to see how it works. If I felt you were an adversary, I would be horrified. In fact, everything is simpler and more inexorable than on paper. Moreover, being a soldier himself, and understanding in detail what really stands behind all this simplicity.
                Well, somehow they climbed, as soon as they could.
        4. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 3 October 2015 20: 51 New
          +1
          And why should they climb somewhere yet? Each country defends its interests and China does it ... What interest does China have in Syria - especially none ..
          1. Krasmash
            Krasmash 3 October 2015 20: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            What interest does China have in Syria - especially no ..

            They have one interest, as always, to go everywhere and order in the future sales market, let someone else bring them, but these will quickly climb up later.
        5. Foxmara
          Foxmara 3 October 2015 23: 05 New
          0
          China has already flown its aircraft carrier to Tartus. The issue of application is most likely a matter of time.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 3 October 2015 23: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Foxmara
            China has already flown its carrier in Tartus

            - the aircraft carrier in Tartus will not fit ... purely in terms of dimensional characteristics ..
            - where did the “woods" come from, what did China get? The reference would be .. trustworthy (DEBKAFILE not to offer!) wink

            And then the third day this aircraft carrier is bombarded already, but it’s all gone request
          2. Odysseus
            Odysseus 4 October 2015 03: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Foxmara
            China has already flown its aircraft carrier to Tartus.

            This is a duck.
      2. Penetrator
        Penetrator 3 October 2015 07: 52 New
        +43
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The distribution of areas of responsibility has been outlined.

        Russian fighter displaced US attack aircraft from the sky of Syria. Washington is in a rustle. "The Russian Su-30SM fighter, by its actions, forced the pilot of the American A-10 attack aircraft to leave airspace over Syria." - reported on the air of the American radio station CNN.
        "When performing tasks in the sky over Syria, our pilot was faced with a situation that forced him to leave Syrian airspace and return to the US Air Force base. In the second minute of the flight, he was" intercepted "by the Russian Su-30SM fighter, whose pilot made it clear "it’s necessary to stop the flight and leave Syrian territory. It’s interesting how Washington will continue to react to such" coercive "actions of Russia?" - notes CNN host Wolf Blitzer.
        1. Mainbeam
          Mainbeam 3 October 2015 08: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Penetrator
          The Russian fighter Su-30СМ by its actions forced the pilot of the American A-10 attack aircraft to leave airspace over Syria

          That single did the attack aircraft do over Syria? A-10 is not a scout. If one, then not on a mission. It’s strange. If they wrote Russian fighters and forced the American attack aircraft to leave Syrian airspace, I would believe.
          1. Penetrator
            Penetrator 3 October 2015 08: 53 New
            +13
            Quote: MainBeam
            What did a single attack aircraft do over Syria?

            Fake, most likely. "In the second minute of the flight, he was" intercepted "by a Russian fighter" - the A-10 after take-off turns out to be intercepted, near the base.
            Americans are starting to escalate, as an example - such are the messages.
            But the fact that the United States is moving the Raptors to the Middle East and Clintonsha called for the creation of a no-fly zone over Syria are real facts.
            1. Rarahin
              Rarahin 3 October 2015 12: 11 New
              +9
              Quote: Penetrator
              Clintonsha called for the creation of a no-fly zone over Syria - real facts.

              We must listen to the opinion of the poor cuckold and provide.
              I think our Air Forces and Air Defense will cope with this?
            2. andrew42
              andrew42 5 October 2015 09: 06 New
              0
              From the very beginning it was clear that the States would insist on the introduction of a “no-fly” system over Syria - for everyone except themselves and Israel. They will try to tie the hands of the aviation of the Russian Federation, so that our people could not disperse the fosterlings-terrorists (moderately undead and IS), supervised by the CIA. I believe that our General Staff is ready for such attempts and the counteraction line has been developed.
          2. The stranger
            The stranger 4 October 2015 13: 38 New
            +1
            Why, here and scouted. What will be the actions of the Russians in the event of their unauthorized actions. Therefore, he could have been alone - he was not going to work. He designated the work, he was designated an interception, questions were removed. It’s like to ask “what - what?” When it is hard to hear. They were told not to meddle, they wanted to make sure they heard correctly. After a while they will try again, and so it will be until the end of the operation.
        2. Michael_59
          Michael_59 3 October 2015 15: 20 New
          +2
          "Duck" for sure. Or from the 3.14ndos stuffing themselves.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 3 October 2015 22: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Michael_59
            "Duck" for sure. Or from the 3.14ndos stuffing themselves.

            - Interesting, but this is also a "water bird"? Http: //warfiles.ru/show-96801-v-nebe-sirii-rossiyskie-su-30-perehva
            tili-izrailskie-f-15.html quote: "Today I read an article from Strategika 51, where the authors report that on the night of October 1 to 2, six Russian Su-30SM fighters intercepted four Israeli McDonnell Douglas F-15s.

            The Israeli Air Force flight plan was supposed to go through Lebanon to Syria and continue along the coast to Latakia (goals and objectives remained unclear).

            After the Russian Su-30s were lifted into the sky, as the F-15 pilots were notified, Israeli fighters turned sharply south and at high speed (apparently the afterburner) flew back over Lebanon.

            This incident shocked the Israeli military command of the Air Force. Israel believes that in the event of a military clash between the F-15 and the Russian Su-30SM, this would lead to the loss of all 4 Israeli air force fighters.

            The Israeli command tried to object to the Russian Air Force, but after the question of why the Israeli air forces were in the sky of Syria, they quickly fell silent

            The Lebanese army reported that at 23 hours 13 minutes Israeli air force planes crossed the border of Lebanese airspace in the direction of Syria
            ".
            It seems that the Israeli pilots did not have any combat tasks, they just decided to test the vigilance and combat readiness of the contingent, well, so how do they act with curious noses? You shouldn’t poke a curious nose where the dog’s mantle doesn’t stick, especially since nothing dangerous is being done there and is not planned there, they just piss the terrorists, who get the Israelis no less, Uncle Vova can be trusted in this regard
        3. TR-25
          3 October 2015 21: 05 New
          0
          This pilot intercepted the Americans (they say his name is Asadov)
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      3. avt
        avt 3 October 2015 08: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The distribution of areas of responsibility has been outlined.

        It would be nice if our ,, zone of responsibility "included such a" main zone of responsibility "as the appointment of our main adviser in the army of Surya.
        Quote: Krasmash
        not that China, which only throws showers and cannot get beyond its territory.

        And thank God! So, let it not come out any further, render morally political and materially technical assistance - we will figure it out for ourselves somehow.
        1. Krasmash
          Krasmash 3 October 2015 08: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: avt
          material and technical assistance

          Also a great option. But only when this help will go, and, or is it, but not advertised?
    2. Enot-poloskun
      Enot-poloskun 3 October 2015 07: 36 New
      +11
      On the help of Russia to the Syrians.

      The main result: Russia inflicts air strikes on bandits, and the United States can only yell hysterically.

      The United States really can not prevent Russia, not to mention their hangers-on.

      And further. All these cries about "civilians", "dead children" at the hands of Moscow - we passed during the Chechen wars.

      Since the States are screaming, it means that Russia has groped for their pain point.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 3 October 2015 08: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: Krasmash
      Not what it is. Russia already helps Bashar the most. And let the imported Muslim allies push the infantry.

      With a normal communication system between the advancing units and the air group, competent adjustment of fire is enough for the remaining army. The SA now has problems with ammunition, artillery, equipment, and not with people. The new interaction system will help the attacking more than a set of thousands of untrained recruits
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 3 October 2015 08: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        The SA now has problems with ammunition, artillery, equipment

        Oho. The Syrian express is driving back and forth without respite, but it doesn’t get any better. It's a pity there is no Chinese express and Iranian express. recourse
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 3 October 2015 10: 54 New
          +10
          Quote: Krasmash
          Oho. The Syrian Express is driving back and forth without a break, but it’s not getting any better

          Because on the day of the offensive, a train of shells is required, but how much can you bring in one flight on a ship?
      2. gjv
        gjv 3 October 2015 08: 50 New
        +5
        Earlier on the afternoon of October 2, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, an official spokesman for the Russian Ministry of Defense, said that “over the past day, the planes of the Russian Su-34, Su-24M and Su-25 air groups made 18 sorties at 12 targets of the ISIS terrorist group in Syria. 10 sorties were carried out, targeted attacks were carried out on 7 terrorist targets, and the command post and communications center of the ISIS armed forces in the DAR-TAAZZA region, Aleppo province were destroyed as a result of direct hits.

        Su-25 attack aircraft attacked an ISIS field camp in the area of ​​MAARET-EN-NUMAN, IDLIB province. The bunkers, as well as the storage of weapons and fuel and lubricants of the terrorists, were completely destroyed.

        As a result of a point bomb attack in the HABIT area, IDLIB province, the object used by the militants as a transshipment base and a large ammunition depot were destroyed.

        In the HAMA province, in the area of ​​the KAFER-ZAITA settlement, Su-24M aircraft completely destroyed the ISIS militants command post, which was a well-fortified concrete object in which terrorists equipped shelters. An analysis of the video monitoring materials showed that several dozens of pieces of equipment equipped with large-caliber small arms were also destroyed.
        On October 1, Su-34s attacked an ISIS training camp in the area of ​​MADAN-JADID and a disguised command post in the KASERT-FARADJ area, southwest of RAKKA. As a result of the attacks, the command post of ISIS militants was disabled. The infrastructure used to train terrorists has been completely destroyed.

        The Su-34 delivered precision strikes against targets from a height of more than 5000 meters. The airborne sighting and navigation equipment of these aircraft allows you to hit any ground targets with absolute accuracy. That was confirmed yesterday during the combat mission of destroying ISIS infrastructure in the area of ​​the RAKKA settlement.
        Using this type of aircraft, the Russian Aerospace Forces can strike at terrorist targets throughout Syria.
    4. 2С5
      2С5 3 October 2015 08: 45 New
      +1
      ... the allies either did not know how to fight or forgot how, and with their armaments 50/50 ... something else Soviet, but something NATO outdated and requiring repair and maintenance ... we will help you in every way, but As for NATO (read USA) I doubt very much! They will not be a potential opponent of their "subsidiary" stronger to do ... although they have the same "business and nothing personal", then there will be "sympathizers" ... but still the confidence that the victory will be for us is present directly! Uncle Vova can’t stop halfway and climbed already specifically, therefore the conclusion is that the land operation is calculated and secured ...
    5. alone
      alone 3 October 2015 20: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Krasmash
      .And the infantry let the imported Muslim allies push.


      Of allies, only Iran. Iran will not send its soldiers there in mass. Iran has too many enemies in the Muslim world.
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 3 October 2015 20: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Krasmash
        .And the infantry let the imported Muslim allies push.


        Of allies, only Iran. Iran will not send its soldiers there in mass. Iran has too many enemies in the Muslim world.

        Yes, who cares, the main thing is that our boys would not run around in the desert.
        1. alone
          alone 3 October 2015 21: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Krasmash
          Yes, who cares, the main thing is that our boys would not run around in the desert.


          )) So that your guys do not run through the desert there is one old and very simple way, do not send them there)) But this is not in my, not your competence)) We ordinary people do not solve anything and no one is interested in our desires.
    6. War and Peace
      War and Peace 3 October 2015 20: 59 New
      -1
      in order to make a full analysis of the combat situation before the offensive, it is necessary to conduct reconnaissance of the enemy’s forces and assess the state and placement of the enemy, while this article does not ...
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  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 3 October 2015 05: 33 New
    +12
    and this is a state of "opposition" ...
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 3 October 2015 07: 01 New
      +11
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      and this is a state of "opposition" ...

      This is completely fanatical or those who did not get how to protect the inguinal region.) it is believed that if your "penis" is torn off or damaged, then there you will be in "paradise" without it, so you won’t meet the gurus).

      And so, the reality is much sadder, the IS has been holding the floor of the country with oil-bearing regions for about 4-5 years, and the CAA has enough forces only to protect cities.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 3 October 2015 14: 23 New
        +2
        You will meet with the gurus. But the meeting will be pretty pointless. In this case, what paradise is it for such a fool?
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 3 October 2015 13: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      and this is a state of "opposition" ...

      The dude will clearly be disappointed if the bullet hits ............ the body armor made of concrete is clearly weak
    3. Michael_59
      Michael_59 3 October 2015 15: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      and this


      Tombstone?
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 3 October 2015 05: 37 New
    +9
    Iran also joined in with specific help from Syria, sending its soldiers there.
  4. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 3 October 2015 05: 38 New
    +9
    Indeed, why do some consider Russia a sort of
    by the fire brigade. They cut it off. And now, save the mother.
    Well, just like Two young men from a magic casket are the same from the face.
    Maybe we will be for you? And your babs to love for you?
    And then the major thought ...
    1. far
      far 3 October 2015 08: 18 New
      0
      And when the boor comes to you along the road and you clean the snout for him - it will be right. But when it leads 2 comrades - it will already be beating.
    2. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 3 October 2015 10: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Indeed, why do some consider Russia a sort of
      by the fire brigade. They cut it off. And now, save the mother.
      Well, just like Two young men from a magic casket are the same from the face.
      Maybe we will be for you? And your babs to love for you?
      And then the major thought ...

      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Indeed, why do some consider Russia a sort of
      by the fire brigade. They cut it off. And now, save the mother.
      Well, just like Two young men from a magic casket are the same from the face.
      Maybe we will be for you? And your babs to love for you?
      And then the major thought ...

      but about women it’s interesting ..........
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 3 October 2015 23: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        but about women interesting .....
        - Yes, they do not have interesting women, interesting people all live in Hollywood and work there too, forget that populations of beautiful creatures have been preserved in the countries of the former USSR and in Latin America. By the way, our ally Maduro has a lot of them (three or four of the last “Miss Universe” are from Venezuela and Colombia, one of these four died during a riot in Caracas from a police bullet, this year “Miss Universe” went to a Canadian, or rather a girl from some large Native American tribe occupying the reservation beat Toronto). I think in your own city you wear a thousand times prettier even a Hollywood actress. To make sure of this, climb the internet - there are interesting materials like "Photoshop steers! Hollywood stars during the photo shoot are real and how then they look on the pages of glossy magazines!". And really, there seemed to be two different people, but similar facial features fotkali! In the photo on the left is a pale freckled moth, the owner of a loud surname, in the magazine is a very recognizable beauty! In the West - all deception! The apples look rosy, the taste is cardboard, the cola tastes sweet - extremely harmful for the body, the chocolate is in bright packaging, the taste is soya golimaya ... Yes, and weapons bombed, bombed something there in Syria and Iraq, yes nothing was bombed)))). What kind of weapon is this? Tolley is a matter of geopolitical opponents - in two days they arranged such that ISIS howled, and desertion began))). This is - in two days, let's see what happens in two months))))
  5. WYCCTPUJIA
    WYCCTPUJIA 3 October 2015 05: 48 New
    +17
    I would like to wish good luck to Assad in the confrontation with the ISIS bloody monster. And of course, that ours would carry out as many sorties as possible and destroy as many terrorists as possible!
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 3 October 2015 06: 05 New
      +8
      I would like to wish good luck to Assad in the confrontation with the ISIS bloody monster

      Lord, naivety is worst of all. What is igil ep ??? Well this is the purest dogs of the West of the Saudis and Americans.
      igil without the help of the west and others like them no one and nothing.
    2. free
      free 3 October 2015 08: 16 New
      0
      and no loss!
  6. Oman 47
    Oman 47 3 October 2015 05: 58 New
    +20
    Purely military methods cannot solve the ISIS problem in Syria.
    What is needed:
    1.Rub ISIS financing channels.
    2. Paraffin (including through the UN) countries that provide hidden support to the Shaitans, primarily the Saudis.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 October 2015 07: 09 New
      +14
      Quote: Oman 47
      1.Rub ISIS financing channels.

      To do this, destroy the United States and the Saudis.
      Quote: Oman 47
      2. Paraffin (including through the UN)

      US will veto
    2. gjv
      gjv 3 October 2015 08: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Oman 47
      Paraffin (including through the UN) countries that provide hidden support to the Shaitans, primarily the Saudis.

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      To do this, destroy the United States and the Saudis.

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      US will veto

      Of course, the US will veto the destruction of itself. But after all USA and there is glavnyuk in the sponsorship of ISIS.
  7. fa2998
    fa2998 3 October 2015 06: 00 New
    +5
    It is troubling — on all maps — the Syrian army controls rather small areas of Syria. It’s one thing — if it stepped back in an organized way or suffered defeats and lost military equipment. Secondly, there are a lot of “emptiness” on the maps — areas that are not controlled by anyone, it’s possible to go to operational space behind enemy lines. For mechanized formations, the desert is not a hindrance. Our troops do not need to be sent, but MILITARY ADVISERS ARE NECESSARY, and help with equipment (we have a lot of old tanks in their “stash” that are familiar to them). soldier hi
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 3 October 2015 07: 04 New
      +13
      "... rather small areas ...".
      Here it is a matter of roads and population density (in the east, the density is low — 20% of us., Large us. Items are few), in my opinion. IG cut off the roads of us. points, and only then take them. Look at the maps and see that the Ishilovites control territories along the roads. And the "voids" of the territory on which there are no major communications are not particularly interesting. The desert and the steppes only seem to be level — apparently there are places very crossed, solanches and sands — otherwise, “girths” and boilers are inevitable.
      Aviation enemy armored vehicles and heavy. armaments can be withdrawn, so they and T-55 (the most common) and armored personnel carriers with infantry fighting vehicles are old, Grads and barrel artillery with old trucks. So it’s quite realistic to kill them with good, Soviet weapons. I think the General Staff even calculated everything there without us. hi
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 3 October 2015 06: 23 New
    +17
    And yet, despite the 4 years of war, the Syrian army is a serious force (there is nowhere to retreat) The most persistent remain! I can imagine what excitement the Syrian people and army have now! Russia has come again to hide from the devils ... Hold on Assad!
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 3 October 2015 06: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Remained the most persistent!

      Courage multiplied by experience and determination is a great power. The mercenaries who came to "cut the dough" have very little chance of breaking these heroes. good
    2. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 3 October 2015 11: 01 New
      +17
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Remained the most persistent!
      1. Denis DV
        Denis DV 3 October 2015 16: 29 New
        +2
        Behind Damascus, nowhere to retreat! Norm, with this attitude they will win good
  9. antikilller55
    antikilller55 3 October 2015 06: 32 New
    +4
    Well, all that remains is to wish good luck to our military servicemen, both in the Syrian sky and on the land of the sea and willows, God save you guys because you are doing a right thing and we pray for your health!
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 October 2015 06: 55 New
    +6
    For more than four years, the Syrian army, led by B. Assad, has been fighting terrorists and mercenaries from all countries. And this already says a lot. So the spirit of the real Syrians is not broken and they will stand to the end. Russia provides various assistance, and over the course of several days, it directly became involved in air strikes. Let us hope that the Syrian army, with the support of its allies, will fulfill the tasks assigned to it.
  11. Smoke
    Smoke 3 October 2015 07: 12 New
    +3
    after Syria, the turn of Qatar and Saudi Arabia will come - these 2 countries are evil, that is where Islamic fascism arose.
  12. mamont5
    mamont5 3 October 2015 07: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Not only the Russian Federation, but also Iran began to provide more substantial assistance. The distribution of areas of responsibility has been outlined.

    In fact, Iran had sent its fighters from the “guardians of the revolution” corps earlier to Syria. (about 10 000 people).

    Quote: Krasmash
    So these are bold countries, not like China, which only dumps and cannot get beyond its territory.

    China is cautious, however, as always. Let's see what will happen next.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 07: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: mamont5

      China is cautious, however, as always. Let's see what will happen next.

      I think they are afraid that the Westerners will set fire to them. There is no way to demonstrate to the whole planet which armed forces of the PRC have become powerful, figs, they prefer to press buttons on the UN with their fingers.
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 3 October 2015 07: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: Smoke
    after Syria, the turn of Qatar and Saudi Arabia will come - these 2 countries are evil, that is where Islamic fascism arose.

    What is it like? War to go to them? Do not talk nonsense. Russia, even here in Syria, is trying to rely on the rule of law, as opposed to the US coalition, to which "the law is not written."
  14. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 3 October 2015 07: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Oman 47
    1.Rub ISIS financing channels.

    To do this, destroy the United States and the Saudis.
    Quote: Oman 47
    2. Paraffin (including through the UN)

    US will veto

    Comrade Romanov, in general, what are the chances for Assad and his army? Will they be pulled or run
    when ours will complete the mission.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 October 2015 15: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      But in general, what are the chances for Assad and his army?

      I don’t think much, the forces are too unequal. Yes, and the Americans are now coming to their senses, will begin to go wild.
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    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 07: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: MainBeam
      China can also send ground troops and armored vehicles to Syria.

      laughing laughing laughing Keyword CAN.So, in my mind, the time is right. Dash off so immediately, and not wait until the recruits to the bearded stretch.
    2. Darkoff
      Darkoff 3 October 2015 07: 58 New
      +1
      The Chinese aircraft carriers have long had a rebuttal. They are not there. China is more concerned with Africa. The Middle East is less interesting to him.
  16. Rigla
    Rigla 3 October 2015 07: 42 New
    +2
    Throw the igil from Syria, destroy the "opposition" and remain in Syria as a guarantor of mattress aggression.
  17. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 3 October 2015 07: 51 New
    +2
    Grease China is not necessary. Let them sit in their own country and never stick out NEVER.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 07: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Grease China is not necessary. Let them sit in their own country and never stick out NEVER.

      How is it not necessary? fool They are fattening there against anti-Russian sanctions and now they are still sitting out while the Russian Federation protects them.
  18. sl22277
    sl22277 3 October 2015 08: 02 New
    +3
    People who took up arms against legitimate authorities must lay down their arms, go to Europe or die, they chose to die. And this is their choice .. I wish Victories and Good Luck to the Syrian government!
  19. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 3 October 2015 08: 14 New
    +7
    The army of rams led by a lion is stronger than the army of lions led by a ram ... smile
  20. dojjdik
    dojjdik 3 October 2015 08: 31 New
    +3
    The Chinese are conducting an economic war with the states, they have their own front to inflict the greatest possible financial damage on Israel and the United States, we have clear skies and air defense; Syrians with Iran, infantry must certainly strengthen the Syrian infantry, especially self-propelled guns and mortars, which they understand
  21. Darkoff
    Darkoff 3 October 2015 08: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: Krasmash
    Quote: KG_patriot_last
    Grease China is not necessary. Let them sit in their own country and never stick out NEVER.

    How is it not necessary? fool They are fattening there against anti-Russian sanctions and now they are still sitting out while the Russian Federation protects them.

    No, no, no. According to experts, the forces of the existing coalition (Russia, Iran, Iraq, Syria) are enough. The presence of Chinese forces and intelligence in the region, what for us?
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 3 October 2015 08: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: DarkOFF
      The presence of Chinese forces and intelligence in the region, what for us?

      I can’t stand the school subbotniks when some work, while others shake. yes
  22. Gray 43
    Gray 43 3 October 2015 08: 58 New
    +1
    After the air strikes of our aviation, the whole "civilized world" began to fuss and upload photos and video materials to the Network with the results of the air strikes of their aircraft and drones, no one wants to publish refutations, but the picture is "correct" for some reason everyone has sharply forgotten how "they differ" shtatovskie drones, civilians are dying from their strikes, and the media of the "brotherly people" are not far behind, who rejoice about the "downed" planes, reinforcing the photo text with materials from the period of the "aircraft fall" of the war in the Donbass
  23. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 3 October 2015 09: 05 New
    +2
    Women are already being drafted into the army, which means things are going badly. :-(
    1. ICT
      ICT 3 October 2015 09: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Eugene30
      Women are already being drafted into the army, so things are going badly

      this is not an indicator but
      things are really not so good
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 3 October 2015 23: 43 New
        0
        Quote: TIT
        Quote: Eugene30
        Women are already being drafted into the army, so things are going badly

        this is not an indicator but
        things really not so good

        =====
        Why didn’t the surrounded special forces evacuate for three years, or didn’t they help to escape from the encirclement? What was the need to keep this airfield?
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 October 2015 09: 37 New
      +5
      In Israel, women serve on call. And is Israel doing bad? Kurds have women, too, and many. Women do not want to meekly surrender to power to rapists. IMHO is right.
  24. da Vinci
    da Vinci 3 October 2015 09: 09 New
    +4
    Assad is the new Ho Chi Minh, only such without the support that the USSR and China could provide, it is much harder for him. The more surprising is the resilience of the Syrian people and the incomprehensible primitive universal stupidity of the peoples of the "civilized world" who considers him a dictator: not a single nation defended the dictators in great wars, and at the slightest opportunity either surrendered or rebelled against its sovereign (historical examples - mass) . No dictator will be able to put at least one guard behind each person. And as for the autocracy of power in the east, almost any country from Africa to the Pacific Ocean is based on autocracy and dictatorship to a greater or lesser extent, but most of them are loyal to "civilizers." Yes, in the "democratic" countries themselves, the power of democracy is very arbitrary, just the use of public relations and corrupt authorities has reached the heights of the art of hypocrisy. wink
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 3 October 2015 11: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: da Vinci
      Assad is the new Ho Chi Minh

      What? The only operation that was crowned with complete success was Vietnam, because the ideological confrontation was won by the communist idea, which Assad is “Uncle Ho,” generally speaking what is happening in Syria is the confrontation of money and idea, the idea of ​​ISIS, except for religious the component is such a nuance - the opposition of the poor to the rich, this component plays a unifying role for itself and is rather tenacious in the minds of people, money came and went or depreciated, but the idea will live until it is replaced by a more attractive idea
      1. da Vinci
        da Vinci 3 October 2015 14: 53 New
        +2
        And who said that Assad is a communist? Assad was able to withstand the Western alliance for 2 years, almost alone, and most people support him, that's all the comparison. But not having such strong support as Ho Chi Minh received, he’s much less chance.
  25. akudr48
    akudr48 3 October 2015 09: 40 New
    +3
    The state of the Syrian army before the decisive battle

    And where the decisive battle can take place in a guerrilla war, there they have their own participants in each direction, their alignments, their own criteria, who the enemy is.

    Such a Syrian Waterloo or the Battle of Kursk, such battles between good and evil will not be there, and it is impossible to wait for a general victory if you win in one of them.

    Russia's participation in only aviation operations, this is all the same participation in the war, is a very delicate matter. Until the end, did we connect the results of our participation in the Syrian war with the fate of Assad, or are there options, who knows.

    I repeat what I said before.

    With the unfinished war in the Donbass, the turbulent Caucasus, flaring up Central Asia, with the 5th column in the management of the economy, with the continued decline in the economy and living standards of the people, Russia's participation in Syria should be limited exclusively to the supply of military equipment and training of troops, as well as the corresponding foreign policy and information support.

    Our sworn partners in the USA and Europe are waiting for this, playing out of themselves as if offended, giving us priority to ruin our soldiers when we begin to plunge deeply into the Middle Eastern sands that are alien to us in order to slam the trap.
    And with t.z. an information war, they already did this, demonizing Russia across all their global networks.
  26. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 3 October 2015 09: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    In Israel, women serve on call. And is Israel doing bad? Kurds have women, too, and many. Women do not want to meekly surrender to power to rapists. IMHO is right.

    No need to compare Israel and Syria. Two different traditions, two different worldviews. In Israel, the clan goes along the female line; in Syria, a woman in the army is an oxymoron.
    Moreover, it proceeds from the article itself what terrible losses the Syrian army suffered.
  27. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 10: 25 New
    +1
    The state of the Syrian army before the decisive battle


    An interesting topic, I would really like to know something on this issue. But somehow it’s very poor, Dear A. Popov, you have brought us material.

    Somehow quite a bit. winked hi
  28. kepmor
    kepmor 3 October 2015 11: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
    I would like to wish good luck to Assad in the confrontation with the ISIS bloody monster. And of course, that ours would carry out as many sorties as possible and destroy as many terrorists as possible!

    Russia (the USSR) has never had such a loyal ally as Syria in its entire history, except perhaps Mongolia. The others betrayed with ease - you’re tired of listing everyone. Therefore, the GDP did everything right, it was necessary to start even earlier - about 2 years ago. Such allies are not scattered! The Syrians, as people, are very nice people, how many people came across them - only good memories! That's who our brothers are to us!
  29. MESS
    MESS 3 October 2015 12: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Enot-poloskun
    Since the States are screaming, it means that Russia has groped for their pain point.

    there is no pain point. there are both their kind of fiefdom (Bl. Vostok) and their offspring. and then a kind of bear invaded their fiefdom and began to feed their fattening as if sticky. Of course, you squeal with Europe
  30. DHA
    DHA 3 October 2015 14: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Krasmash
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Not only the Russian Federation, but also Iran

    So these are bold countries, not like China, which only dumps and cannot get beyond its territory.

    The Chinese are still cunning, they could never be relied on, everywhere they seek their own profit, it is their mentality and philosophy.
  31. Odysseus
    Odysseus 3 October 2015 16: 22 New
    +1
    The real task that the Syrian army + Hezbollah + Iranian volunteers with the support of the Russian Air Force can now pose is
    1) The liberation of all Latakia
    2) Cleaning the surroundings of Damascus, Homs
    3) The liberation of Palmyra and gas fields near it.
    4) The creation of a defensive line on the northern and southern sections of the front.
    Next, you need to get out of the war by dividing Syria into 3 parts (Alawite, Sunni and Kurdish). The main difficulty, of course, is in countering the West, which will impede this plan as much as possible.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 3 October 2015 17: 16 New
      +1
      At one time, the Britons created Syria. A country consisting of ethno-religious formations antagonistically directed towards each other. The Alawites turned out to be a good core of modern Syria. And they are nominally Muslims, but with their preambles. They have wine communion practiced in the second stage of initiation, for example. Syria was the pearl of BV but for the time being. And now it is decomposed into ethnic enclaves. We will keep the Alawite coast --- the task is completed. And again to hide Syria from Syria --- this means blood and an unclear result. It is important that in case of victory the coast will be controlled Ali, Persians and Rus. True, the Arabians will never agree with this situation .. But this is their problem. They will bring matters to the point that they are from the Saratov region. the planes of the kings will take off and wipe away our planes in fine powder. It will take a decade, but the final will be one. Instead of palaces and authorities there will be ruins, Iraq-Iran will devour each other in the fire of war. Religious distinction --- in the 21st century it will be driving factor in world history. The project "Communism" failed. The train "Radical Islamism" arrives at the stop.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 3 October 2015 21: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        And now, it is decomposing into ethnic enclaves. We will keep the Alawite coast --- the task is completed

        I agree, but the problem is that the goals are declared to be the fight against ISIS and the preservation of all of Syria, which is obviously impossible.
        In 2012, we twisted Assad’s arms with a truce and chemical weapons because of which he did not win, and in 2015 when the situation became critical, we suddenly decided to fight. This is a very strange strategy.
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Religious distinction --- in the 21st century this will be a driving factor in world history. The project "Communism" has failed. The train "Radical Islamism" arrives at the station.

        I do not agree that religious differences are used as a disguise for socio-economic processes within global capitalism. But this requires a separate discussion.
  32. 31rus
    31rus 3 October 2015 18: 39 New
    +3
    About China, in vain, we need support, even the very presence of China, presupposes a completely different alignment and military and even more political, everything is just beginning and it is not yet known what the United States and its satellites will present to us, so long as everything goes well, but think for yourself if the “aggravation” of the coalition goes, Russia will actually be left alone (if this is not the US plan at all), so we simply need allies and there’s no time for cheers
  33. Seal
    Seal 3 October 2015 18: 50 New
    0
    Why not ?

    The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said on the air of the Russian News Service radio station that he was ready to send infantry to Syria to fight the Islamic State.

    “I, as a Muslim, as a Chechen, as a patriot of Russia, declare that in 1999, when the republic was seized by these shaitans that exist today, we took an oath on the Koran: we will fight against them [terrorists] all our lives, wherever they were not. I’m not just saying, I ask that we be allowed to go there and participate in these special operations, ”Kadyrov said.

    He added that the decision should be made by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, however, Chechen servicemen are ready to take part in hostilities. “As soon as the terrorists in Syria realize that soldiers are going to them, they will quickly get out of there,” Kadyrov noted.
  34. IAlex
    IAlex 3 October 2015 19: 08 New
    +3
    Hmm, I had to wait for the 4th year for the Syrian army to lose 150.000 soldiers, almost all the equipment, aircraft and 2/3 of the territory in order to start helping with the bombing ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 October 2015 21: 42 New
      +1
      This assistance had to be provided even when all this mess started and if it were done then in 2011, now there would have been no complete devastation of Syria, millions of refugees, hundreds of thousands of dead, blown up architectural monuments and executed rangers and scientists.
  35. sounddoc
    sounddoc 3 October 2015 21: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: IAlex
    Hmm, I had to wait for the 4th year for the Syrian army to lose 150.000 soldiers, almost all the equipment, aircraft and 2/3 of the territory in order to start helping with the bombing ...

    I put a plus, but .... You simplify the problem too much. The solution is forced, suffered, complicated. You can’t ignore the whole range of international and domestic problems, complex economic and political relations, undercover struggle, hidden and overt military competition ... Ultima ratio regum ...
  36. 76rtbr
    76rtbr 4 October 2015 00: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    If so, we look forward to it))) ... Igilovtsev is enough for everyone)))) ... The truth is the trouble - ISIS militants say they are deserting and fleeing to Europe)))))))))) The Chinese need faster there oars work, otherwise the war will end until they reach Syria)))))



    Damn, laughed for a long time, and let the stokers melt the rockets!
  37. Mentat
    Mentat 4 October 2015 12: 37 New
    0
    Quote: Odyssey
    the goals are the fight against ISIS and the preservation of all of Syria, which is obviously impossible.

    Obviously doable. ISIS will be beheaded and bloodless, deprived of all bases, warehouses and command, after which it will be squeezed out from Syria, and most likely from Iraq. Syria, as has been said in the media space, is planned by a federal entity.

    In 2012, we twisted Assad’s hands with a ceasefire and chemical weapons, because of which he did not win

    Do not write nonsense. With chemical weapons, we saved Assad with a veto at the UN when the United States wanted to put a chemical on him. weapons, and beat the Americans, taking a brilliant initiative. This was one of the strongest moves in the Middle East party.
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 4 October 2015 18: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Mentat
      Obviously doable. ISIS will be beheaded and bloodless, deprived of all bases, warehouses and command, after which it will be squeezed out from Syria, and most likely from Iraq.

      Open the map, see who is fighting with whom and who is being hit. You will see
      1) Assad controls no more than 1/3 of the territory of Syria, the borders are open. The defeat of all Islamist groups and the closure of the borders requires several front-line military operations. Assad has no strength left to carry out them. Purification of all Syria is objectively impossible.
      2) Russian Air Force attacks in 9 out of 10 cases are carried out against pro-Western rebels, and not against ISIS. And rightly so, attacks on ISIS are just work in the USA because it only helps to strengthen the positions of IF and SSA.
      Quote: Mentat
      Do not write nonsense. With chemical weapons, we saved Assad with a veto at the UN when the United States wanted to put a chemical on him. weapons, and beat the Americans, taking a brilliant initiative.

      To be more precise, this “brilliant move” was held in 2013, in 2012 there was no less “brilliant” move with Asad being forced into the “Annan’s peace plan”, as a result of which the chances of closing the borders and, accordingly, of victory were lost. And as a result Assad simply lost the last real military trump card. The blocking of UN resolutions has nothing to do with coercion to eliminate chemical weapons. And, by the way, in 2012-2013, propaganda was torn to explain to everyone that our direct military interference in the affairs of Syria is unacceptable.
      As a result of these 2 "brilliant" initiatives, we have a deplorable situation today. It is even scary to imagine the consequences of a couple more of such "brilliant initiatives" from the bourgeois government of the Russian Federation.
  38. Wolka
    Wolka 4 October 2015 16: 54 New
    0
    Yes, with weapons, however, it is not very dense, but for 4 years of continuous fighting, this is a perfectly acceptable indicator of losses. but it is necessary to fight further until victory, Russia will help from the air ...