"Fifth column". Names and surnames?

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As we all see and hear, now a lot of attention in the press is paid to the issues of Syria and Ukraine. However, we should not forget that for the Russians in the first place are the events taking place in Russia. They are vital and paramount. And here in some areas there is a very “delicate” bypass of some topics and issues.

The most important of these questions - the survival of the country and the Russians in general - can be safely attributed to the issue of sovereignty.

It’s not a secret for people who listen and think for a long time that the so-called “fifth column” operates in the country - an extremely numerous “landing” of our “partners”, thrown up and raised at all levels of government since 90's. However, often all these "columns" have some abstract and faceless image, engaged in the same abstract sabotage and sabotage.

Do not be afraid to at least roughly outline the circle of specific names and surnames.

An elementary litmus test of conclusions with specific individuals can again serve as a specific example of an attempt to defend the interests of a country.

For example, 9 June 2015. Discussion of the bill "On the introduction of measures to protect the national economy of the Russian Federation and limit the activities of legal entities and citizens of the aggressor countries in the Russian Federation" (No. 667782-6) in the State Duma of the Russian Federation. The bill was introduced by deputies Katasonov S.M., Romanov A.V., Fedorov E.A.

On the podium of the State Duma - Yevgeny Alekseyevich Fedorov, known for his harsh statements about groups of people who are clearly working to the detriment of the country. The figure of the deputy Fedorov can be treated differently, but let's look at the essence of the proposed proposal and conclusions that can be drawn in relation to persons who are not abstract.

The essence of the introduced law number 667782-6: The authors of the bill are primarily concerned with the fact that foreign organizations are currently conducting an audit of most strategic enterprises in Russia (examples: Central Bank, UAC, Uralvagonzavod, VTB, Vnesheconombank, Rosselkhozbank, Transneft, Gazprom Neft, Ministry of Finance, FAS, Rosfinnadzor, Ministry of Transport, Ministry of Housing and Communal Services, Ministry of Economic Development , Ministry of Industry and Trade, Federal Property Management Agency, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Sports, etc., etc.). In their opinion, access to such information threatens the interests of the country, and the participation of such organizations in the audit is detrimental to Russian audit firms. Also, according to the authors of the bill, given the aggressive and non-partner behavior of a number of states that have declared sanctions against Russia, the definition of “aggressor country” should be introduced into the law, the list of which will be approved by the Russian government.

As they say, the picture is worth a thousand words. I suggest the reader not to be lazy and get acquainted with the video recording of both the discussion process and the result ...



Results.

The bill, clearly aimed at protecting the interests of the country, was shamefully failed. Not rejected, not sent back for revision (perhaps, from the point of view of specialists, the amendments could indeed have taken place), namely, SOTATED and FAILED.

Let's get acquainted with the participants of the action.



As seen in the picture pages of the bill of the official site of the State Duma, the most interesting point of this schedule is the item “Did not vote”, despite the fact that “For” (179 against 3 deputies) was voted by an absolute majority of those who nevertheless decided to vote. 268 deputies for some reasons did not bring their finger to the voting button, thereby disrupting further discussion of this law. The same deputy Karpov (a chess and philatelist in combination, the cost of which the collection of stamps, according to some estimates, is at least 13 million euros), who opposed Fedorov at the same meeting of the State Duma, also from the “did not vote” number ... Inevitably, the question arises - why? Are all 268 people (99,2% of United Russia and various parts of other parties) suddenly and abruptly for valid reasons missing in the hall? .. How can it be that 268 people who are charged with making fateful decisions of the country simply do not fulfill their duties ?

The only advantage of all that happened is that the voting was open and we have the opportunity to see those “not voted” as they are.

Conclusions.

Conclusions from this situation can be made different. Let's try to sketch some that come to mind:

1. The epidemic of deputy flu.
2. The deputies from the school bench skipped and still like to do it.
3. The majority of those who did not vote, being an organized group of traitors, on orders from outside or in connection with their own interests, deliberately sabotaged the bill.

The reader can add to the list of conclusions himself.

Who is to blame and what to do?

It is clear that openly criminal actions cannot have an apology, and many of this episode is embittered by the authorities. But in search of an answer to the eternal questions, would you turn to the mirror? After all, perhaps, it is the indifference of a citizen of Russia to the affairs of the state, passivity, unwillingness to understand personalities in any regular local elections and is a brush of such sketches? We place many hopes on the president, but he is by no means all-powerful. Without us, active citizens of Russia, he really can’t do anything. After all, indifferently omitting the newsletter and defying the statements about the unwillingness to understand the “varieties of guano”, we choose the whole “column” first of all.

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  1. -81
    3 October 2015 05: 18
    What a beautiful beginning .. I thought at last someone would explain to the dark, they would confirm my suspicions, but it all came down to dismantling in the Duma, and in general Karpov, who was closer to the communists rather than to the fifth column, to the firebox article
    1. +121
      3 October 2015 06: 12
      I don’t even know which column to classify myself with. By the fifth? Tenth?
      But I know one thing.
      "Modern democracy is not about protecting the interests of the majority.
      This is a defense of the exclusive interests of the Jews from the majority.
      They are not among the people, but in the government, spit in any direction, you will not miss.
      1. +91
        3 October 2015 06: 59
        And so all bills that defend the interests of the people, the interests of Russia itself, fail.
        The ruling liberal party "United Russia" has an absolute majority of votes in the State Duma, thanks to the indifference of the majority of the people who do not want to go to the polls, the manipulation of the authorities with electoral technologies, up to direct falsification of the election results.

        The fact that the United States has control over the work of strategic enterprises, state authorities, pursues through them a policy of "self-destruction" of Russia, is obvious to almost everyone who wants to analyze the current political events in Russia at least a little.
        The information of E. Fedorov, in the rejected bill, is only a vocal confirmation of this non-sovereign position of Russia. The "fifth column" is operating in Russia. Moreover, it acts in the highest echelons of power in Russia.
        And the list of members of this column is not complete, here you need to include almost the entire Government of the Russian Federation, the leadership of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the leadership of many ministries of the Russian Federation, pursuing a policy of subordination of their departments to US agents.
        1. +33
          3 October 2015 09: 21
          And you visit the elections as an observer, anyone can do it. Not only the voters do not care, but these "voters" actively participate in "merry-go-rounds", drive around in crowds with vydyrs in polling stations and vote by absentee ballots for the stealing power. And then, perfectly aware of the entire degree of humiliation (both those who voted, and those who "carousel" / these especially, since their superiors literally raped /) sit and are silent in a rag. But that's not all - those who are actively protesting are called "condom", despite the fact that people both for the Crimea and Donbass and for the "planting" of thieves, they all interfere with the "liberals" in one heap!
          1. +13
            3 October 2015 20: 46
            And you will attend the election as an observer

            It was once.
            According to estimates by the EC, the UR gained 3rd place (less than 25%) after the Communist Party (1) and LDPR (2), and on Tuesday, two days after the Duma elections (last), local media announced the results of the vote (details were reported by the numbers of PS) on which Indisputably won the EP. In particular, on the site where I was an observer, this is already 96% "FOR"!
            HOW?
          2. +2
            3 October 2015 21: 01
            Quote: Direct
            And you will attend the election as an observer, this is available to anyone

            To become an observer, you must register as an observer in advance. If you sit for a long time at the polling station, then first you will be asked if you feel bad, then they will politely ask you to leave, you will not leave, they will bring the police officer on duty, you will resist, an outfit with machine guns will arrive, they will be taken to the "jail", and then the court and the term for attempting to disrupt the voting process.
            Therefore, I do not recommend such experiments.
        2. +26
          3 October 2015 10: 16
          Quote: vladimirZ
          The ruling liberal party "United Russia" has an absolute majority of votes in the State Duma, thanks to the indifference of the majority of the people who do not want to go to the polls, the manipulation of the authorities with electoral technologies, up to direct falsification of the election results.


          So I think, Dear vladimirZ, that we need to go to the polls next year and vote with our heads, and not in another place. The more of us come, the less chances "leading and directing" will have for falsification.

          Somehow I think so, and I hope for something else. hi
          1. +33
            3 October 2015 10: 43
            Your right decision. It is imperative to go to the polls, then we will win.
            Here is a current example for you. In the Irkutsk region, in the second round of voting between the governor and the EP nominee - Eroshenko, the victory was won by the opposition representative - the representative of the Communist Party, Sergey Levchenko.
            And Levchenko won because the turnout was 40%, people outraged by the work of businessman-governor Eroshchenko.
            Only a large turnout was able to overcome that administrative resource, then the pressure on the voters, the fraud that the authorities used in these elections.
            The administrative resource was not enough for the authorities to overcome the mood of the people in the election of a new government in the region.
            Only activity in the elections will give the people a chance to change their lives. Maidans, performances at Bolotnaya and other staged "revolutions" can only bring chaos and blood.
            1. +4
              3 October 2015 14: 44
              Here is a lively and inspiring example.
              1. +7
                3 October 2015 15: 32
                Quote: NordUral
                Here is a lively and inspiring example.

                And to my "shame" I did not go to the polls.
                When I was in office, I voted for this ... God forbid memory, karate-communist Romanov. He passed (not without my participation) and immediately went over to EP.
                It turns out I helped not the Communist Party and the EP? request
              2. +9
                3 October 2015 17: 28
                Quote: NordUral
                Here is a lively and inspiring example.

                I do not see anything inspiring. This will not change the situation. One governor not from EP will not be able to do anything, just like the Communist Party faction in the Duma. Yes, they can speak, vote, rally, but they can not influence the adoption of key decisions. The system, led by Putin, will not allow it until it decays.
                1. +10
                  3 October 2015 23: 23
                  Karabin (1)
                  The system, led by Putin, will not allow it until it decays.
                  A very interesting statement!
                  The “system led by Putin” itself doesn’t really decompose itself - it needs to be helped to decompose! The question is how?
                  For example, the Anatoly Sobchak in my time admitted that he joined the Communist Party in order to decompose her inside! Rђ RІRѕS, WHO (!) Helped Sobchak to be a member of the CPSU? WHO and WHO were exactly the people who recommended fool to accept him in the party?
                  Aftermath coalition of liberal Sobchak we still disentangle!
                2. +1
                  4 October 2015 21: 21
                  It all depends on how we vote and how many of us will vote. But you don’t have to take a lot of courage on the clave.
            2. +7
              3 October 2015 14: 55
              The list is too long, but knowing and remembering some of the names of the jingoistic patriots, one can give a price to the "abstaining". Traitors - to the answer ...
            3. +2
              3 October 2015 15: 55
              They threw a bone, that’s all ... Eroshchenko was too lit up, so they decided to bang two birds with one stone. People were satisfied with the opposition, but still retained control. The Communist Party is an opposition-controlled ... So no need to invent ...
            4. +7
              3 October 2015 17: 26
              I rarely participate in local elections, because I believe that our governors, under the current state-capitalist system (even if they are three times Marxists, communists and others), do little to decide. Moreover, in the first round of elections, as in the whole of Russia, we in the Irkutsk region had one pro-government and a lot of opposition parties. But in the second round, when it was decided who was for the whites and who was for the reds, many people went to vote, and so did I. Moreover, the information dirt was outraged, which diligently poured on the Communists - as a result, many did not vote for the Communists, but against the government.
              1. +2
                4 October 2015 21: 29
                The country is at a crossroads, something is happening at the top. And this "something" people, that is, we must give an impulse to the movement in the direction necessary for the people. And this is a constitutional change of the state system, nationalization and socialization of the country. Moreover, it will not necessarily be socialism, why, we are completely satisfied with state capitalism with some presence of market relations, but only in the spheres of consumption (group "B", for those who still remember).
                And a fierce fight against corruption. Then we will win and stand, even if the whole world stands against us (and this is unrealistic and is necessary only to a few Anglo-Saxon countries, and even that only to their top).
            5. +12
              3 October 2015 21: 13
              I agree with you, but here is an example from life:
              In Yaroslavl, the mayor was not elected a millionaire from United Russia, but the one who was considered an alternative to him - Urlashov. Less than a year later, he was imprisoned with the wording: "attempted bribe-taking"! No one caught the hand, no one presented money! And by the way, this bribe-taker lived in an ordinary apartment building in a kopeck piece with a 17-year-old daughter and an old mother! 2 years have passed, Urlashov is still under investigation, and is not in a 13-room palace under "house arrest", but in a pre-trial detention center. And this one from Serdyukov's (Vasilyev's) harem grabbed 6 billion and after 34 days was released with a “clear conscience!” And not the fact that she was there! Remember how many days you were looking for it to show the press?
              So we will not be happy for the Irkutsk citizens, God forbid that they would not concoct a business either!
              I always go to the polls, but this time I didn’t go - they simply did not bring us an invitation. Because the elections were not in all districts. So my vote, I think, was attributed to candidates from EP.
              1. +5
                4 October 2015 21: 33
                That's what I’m saying, the people should get up from the sofas and clean their ears from liberal-patriotic noodles. It’s time to understand that the country will no longer have another chance. We will leave, those who are from the USSR, and young people hang lies on the ears about the Soviet Union, about its alleged crime (we are looking at what is happening on the outskirts) and everything will not become our country. That's why, for the sake of our children and grandchildren with great-grandchildren need to wake up.
                1. -5
                  4 October 2015 22: 48
                  Quote: NordUral
                  We will leave, those who are from the USSR, and young people hang lies on the ears about the Soviet Union, about its alleged crime (we are looking at what is happening on the outskirts) and everything will not become our country
                  I’m sure that without the old-time Compromisers, who at first swept the Union, and now push into the worst form of socio-economic relations - state capitalism, the youth will be better.

                  So go away as quickly as possible - tablecloth road.
          2. +20
            3 October 2015 11: 43
            Tell me, for whom to vote? Maybe I don’t understand something, but point me at the party whose members really work for the good of my Motherland?
            In my opinion, all this Caudle in the Duma is simply a farce and no more.
            1. +18
              3 October 2015 13: 28
              Tell me, for whom to vote? Maybe I don’t understand something, but point me at the party whose members really work for the good of my Motherland?
              - Yu-81 (1)

              And you look WHO VOTED for the bill of E. Fedorov, strengthening the sovereignty of Russia. Which parties, for the most part, want changes towards Russia's sovereignty and social justice?
              Communist Party, individual members of the Liberal Democratic Party and SprRossii. It is for them that we must vote, to whom your soul lies, whose political views are closest to you.
              To begin with, it is necessary to deprive the liberal United Russia party of the absolute majority, which blocks the consideration of any issues in favor of the people, and, as we see, in favor of sovereignty, and better even a simple majority, in order to exclude any dominance of United Russia in the State Duma.
              1. MrK
                +4
                3 October 2015 19: 09
                Quote: vladimirZ
                First, it is necessary to deprive the liberal party "United Russia" of the absolute majority, which blocks the consideration of any issues in favor of the people

                A good thought, Vladimir. But you missed one important thing. In elections, you vote not for a specific deputy, but for a party. And who will be included in the party’s deputy list is a big question and a big money question.
                1. +2
                  4 October 2015 05: 48
                  You missed one important thing. In elections, you vote not for a specific deputy, but for a party.
                  - Mrark (4)

                  So it is necessary to vote for the party, for ideology, which the party reflects. And who will be there in the party, the second thing.
                  In my practice of voting in elections, I do not bother with the specific names of candidates. I look at which of them which party, and vote for "my" party, which I consider the closest to me, according to my political convictions of social justice - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
                  And in no case vote for "independent" candidates, as a rule these are opportunists who play at the protest of everything and everyone, and who do not know how to work for society and the state.
              2. 0
                3 October 2015 19: 39
                Quote: vladimirZ
                individual members of the LDPR and SprRussia


                84% liberal democrats and 64% fair Russians (includingleaders of both these parties) - these are, in your opinion, "individual members"?what
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              4. 0
                4 October 2015 21: 37
                I just wrote about this.
            2. +4
              3 October 2015 14: 45
              Look at the picture on the right and it will become clear to you, albeit with reservations. But the main thing is to begin the purification of power from election to election. God will give and purify without Maidan and pitchfork.
            3. 0
              4 October 2015 21: 36
              This is the main question and the most painful one. Yes, Zyuganov, this is the whistle, but there are young communists. There are honest people both in "Fair Russia" and in the Liberal Democratic Party; one should look not at one party, but at a bloc of parties and push them to unite when nominating candidates. But to choose the most worthy of them. And gradually, from elections to elections, the husk will be eliminated. And there are many good leaders among the people, you just need to make out them.
          3. +6
            3 October 2015 12: 45
            Don’t even hope Volodya, the pensioners-pensioners will come and vote as they should, the rest of Churov will be polished ..
            1. +5
              3 October 2015 15: 00
              And the weakest vote for the right and explain to the grandmothers?
              1. +1
                4 October 2015 02: 25
                Yes, not weak, but simply pointless ..
                1. +1
                  4 October 2015 21: 39
                  I will say, as I think, our silence is a crime against the future.
          4. +2
            3 October 2015 14: 43
            Yes, vote, and thinking hard for whom. And this and similar voting lists should be placed on the polling stations.
          5. +1
            3 October 2015 17: 58
            With a sigh: a naive Chukchi young man ... recourse
            1. +1
              4 October 2015 21: 49
              I'm far from naive. Just lazy and cowardly, like most of us. What are the leaders of EP hoping for.
          6. 0
            3 October 2015 17: 58
            With a sigh: a naive Chukchi young man ... recourse
          7. MrK
            +9
            3 October 2015 18: 57
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            The more we come, the less chances the "leading and directing" will have of falsification.

            Dear Vladimir 1964. Regarding the chances of falsification - you are right. But in the modern version of democracy, he wins. who organizes the elections and votes. This is an objective law. Write down as a keepsake so you don’t accidentally forget it.
            Not a single bourgeois party, in power, will peacefully surrender this power. And those who hope to gain power through elections act like naive children. Relieve blinkers from the eyes.
            They rig the election anyway. Any, in the meanest way.
            Remember 1917 year, 1993 year. What is the peaceful transition from one form of power to another? Or drunk
            EBN peacefully shot the Supreme Council?
            Please note, I do not call for rebellion. Riot is always crushed.
        3. +14
          3 October 2015 12: 29
          Maybe we have the FSB’s main fifth column, the Tsereushny branch, otherwise the liquidation would have started the operation long ago. They throw the country, they chew snot, they are some kind of nonsense.
          1. +4
            3 October 2015 12: 47
            Everything is fine with the FSB, only she is a dog on a chain in the first place, and secondly, who has her master and who feeds her?
        4. +10
          3 October 2015 14: 19
          All right. BUT ... people vote for them! We need to work with the people, and not a single party really works, and it’s not worth talking about EP ...
          And it also touches when the grandmothers are discussing with each other, he once said: Well, Nemtsov (so that the pan under him never cools down) is Russian! And they choose these "Russians".
          And then you need to understand that the GDP either does not have such force, as it declares, or it has a "fifth column". Otherwise, his lisp with the liberal government is not explained.
          1. MrK
            +8
            3 October 2015 19: 16
            Quote: Skif83
            You need to work with the people

            That is right. I am afraid that the people will understand the essence of the sun only when they fly away to the West. And there, the question - what happened to Russia, simply answers - She drowned. How he responded in the USA about the KURSK nuclear submarine torpedoed by the Americans.
          2. +5
            4 October 2015 15: 30
            I fully support. The people are the ones who give these "comrades" the opportunity to paint 99% of any elections. The trouble is that when it smells, in a serious way, fried, you won't see EdRa in your eyes. They will quickly be blown away to the side where the sun sets. There they have a rookery, there they are sweet. And the people, in their opinion, did not deserve something else: they vote, which means they deserve it. All sorts of pensioners are stupid, stupid youth who do not need anything, but they are scared - liberal traitors. That's all the people. So, don't expect anything good from this party. They, as one saint used to say, are neither hot nor cold. They are warm.
            (like shit - author's comment)
        5. +20
          3 October 2015 14: 37
          A very interesting article. Here the questions are not only to the position of each deputy, but simply to professionalism. Not to vote on such a scale is possible only by order, it turns out that these gentlemen are not deputies, but ordinary obedient extras.
          Now we can say that Parliament is EP, and EP is a bunch of conjuncturers - businessmen, athletes and overt careerists, for whom membership in EP is the solution to their selfish tasks. Not a party, but a bunch, because at the first alarming calls all these people will rush from the party lists anywhere. You can recall a lot of negative things about the CPSU, but it was a party. Now I’m not observing anything similar.
          There is only one conclusion - go to the polls. If the turnout is 30-40%, as it is now, then what wonders at such a composition of the Parliament. 10% can be juggled, but 60% will not work.
          1. +12
            3 October 2015 15: 03
            Correctly! It's all about our laziness and cowardice. From this year I will vote. Before that, I protested on the couch without voting. So they protested. What does these EPs use everything, even our patriotic impulses.
          2. +4
            3 October 2015 15: 33
            Reserve officer. And you carefully look at the list of deputies of the State Duma and compare. What happens. Most, the same people, only this convocation they represented one party, the next convocation another. Leaving either those who did not please, or for natural reasons.
          3. +7
            3 October 2015 17: 40
            Quote: Reserve officer
            Now we can say that Parliament is EP, and EP is a bunch of conjuncturers - businessmen, athletes and overt careerists, for whom membership in EP is the solution to their selfish tasks. Not a party, but a bunch,

            There is another opinion. Secretary of the United Russia General Council Sergei Neverov called the meeting between Putin and Medvedev with the party activist “one of the main venues” of the three-day forum. “At the end and at the beginning of the meeting, Vladimir Putin said that United Russia is a state people's party that addresses issues that concern our citizens. It was a frank, interesting discussion, ”said Neverov.
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            2. +11
              3 October 2015 21: 22
              "United Russia" - the state people's party ...
              Just need to finish the phrase: the party of the people who live on the ruble!
          4. +4
            3 October 2015 17: 51
            Why be surprised? - Party discipline!
            1. +2
              3 October 2015 19: 00
              Quote: Region 23
              Party discipline!

              Yeah, democratic centralism. Decryption needed? wassat
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        6. 0
          3 October 2015 20: 38
          Exactly!
          Central Bank said there will be inflation and She will be - so said the Central Bank!
          http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/03/highinflation/
      2. +23
        3 October 2015 08: 39
        The question is, in which media was the publication on this subject, which
        the television channel posted this paddock to the nationwide discussion, the answer was nowhere and in which media did not go. As for the fifth column, you don’t have to go far, the entire government bloc headed by Medvedev is the backbone of this scum.
        1. +20
          3 October 2015 09: 51
          As for the fifth column, you don’t have to go far, the whole government bloc headed by Medvedev is ...
          -go21zd45few

          The question “Why is Putin not removing Medvedev, other very odious government ministers?”, Marked with the seal of the “fifth column,” probably has many answers.
          One of them was expressed by Nikolai Starikov after 12 minutes of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAIPoGthY9o
          There is an opinion of V. Katasonov, after 5 minutes of video,
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2j_-Q1nuQ
          It’s not entirely possible to agree with them, but a lot of interesting things.
          There are other opinions, but they all speak only about one thing: Russia is not a completely sovereign state, unfortunately, it is controlled by the United States through hidden levers, which was once again confirmed by information from E. Fedorov.
          Look, it’s very useful for understanding the political essence of the Russian authorities.
          1. dmb
            +5
            3 October 2015 18: 33
            You can find out why this honest Mr. Fedorov and others like him continue to be in this villainous party? Apparently I'm trying to blow it up from the inside. True, this strongly resembles Ivanov's "tracking" of thefts in GLONASS.
        2. -6
          3 October 2015 09: 58
          Well, yes, Medvedev D.A. Prime Minister, he is also the chairman of the United Russia party. Those. The ruling party is your fifth column? Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?
          1. +15
            3 October 2015 10: 15
            Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?
            - Nikolay K

            And you watch the full video with V. Katasonov, at my link. There the answer is given, enlightened in this matter, by people.
            Russia is hidden, pledged by leverage, in the same Constitution of the Russian Federation, controlled from the USA and the West, however paradoxical this might look in the current confrontation between the USA and Russia.
            The consequences of the coup d'état in the USSR, Russia, committed by the United States, with the involvement of traitors from our countries under the leadership of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, are difficult and still impossible to overcome. And the video from the State Duma meeting, where the draft bill limiting the influence of US agents is being rolled out, is a vivid proof of this.
          2. +15
            3 October 2015 11: 51
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Well, yes, Medvedev D.A. Prime Minister, he is also the chairman of the United Russia party. Those. The ruling party is your fifth column? Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?

            Nikolay, and you see another innovative nonsense of the LADY at the Sochi "economic" forum. A typical talking head.

            Something like this. winked
            1. -8
              3 October 2015 15: 09
              I have no desire to listen to the talking head, I can watch clowns in the circus. But to assert that EP is the fifth column is also nonsense. The ruling elite cannot secretly undermine itself.
              1. 0
                5 October 2015 13: 23
                Pessimist: it can't be worse !!!
                Optimist: Maybe, maybe !!!
          3. +10
            3 October 2015 13: 05
            Jews still rule you ... But do you doubt this? don’t tell my slippers - all of Odessa has been talking about this since 19, just as Petlyura escaped ...
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          5. +7
            3 October 2015 13: 38
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Well, yes, Medvedev D.A. Prime Minister, he is also the chairman of the United Russia party. Those. The ruling party is your fifth column? Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?

            United Russia is not a party, but for the most part a mass of market-makers using membership in it as a tool for career growth and enrichment using the administrative resource and a fraction in the Duma is an executive body of government liberals with legislative powers
            1. +3
              3 October 2015 14: 26
              Unfortunately, the EP party. And then - exactly according to your text.
              1. +2
                4 October 2015 05: 31
                Quote: ARS56
                Unfortunately, the EP party. And then - exactly according to your text.

                formally yes - the party but not in essence
          6. +11
            3 October 2015 14: 22
            Yes. Russia is ruled by the 5th column, since the head of the Russian government is Medvedev, he is also the chairman of the party of traitors of Russia (see the voting results).
          7. +1
            3 October 2015 15: 04
            We are embarrassed.
          8. +7
            3 October 2015 15: 24
            Fifth pure water. The enemies of the people, urki, traders and shaitans rule, as Kadyrov sometimes says. Otherwise, laws protecting our sovereignty would have long been adopted.
          9. MrK
            +2
            3 October 2015 19: 20
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?

            She rules.
        3. +2
          3 October 2015 14: 44
          I haven’t seen something for a long time so filed information about the course of voting by our "Duma members". This information would be in the open press. It is a pity that the SR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are silent "in a rag" ...
        4. MrK
          +5
          3 October 2015 19: 19
          Quote: go21zd45few
          the entire government bloc headed by Medvedev is the backbone of this scum.


          A MEDVEDEV WHOSE FRIEND? Do not remind? And who nominated him for today's post.
      3. +1
        3 October 2015 13: 06
        Quote: Babr
        I don’t even know which column to classify myself with.

        You can just walk along the sidewalk smile
        1. 0
          4 October 2015 02: 51
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: Babr
          I don’t even know which column to classify myself with.

          You can just walk along the sidewalk smile

          belay ............. good I appreciate the humor. But the joke is a joke, and maybe what children
      4. +8
        3 October 2015 17: 56
        Lord It seems people are smart, but they don’t know: Democracy is for FOOLS.
        1. MrK
          +9
          3 October 2015 19: 28
          Quote: Old Warrior
          Lord It seems people are smart, but they don’t know: Democracy is for FOOLS.


          The words of O. Deripaska himself in confirmation.
          “If you discard the tales of democracy, supposedly someone decides something by going into the voting booth. In fact, booths exist so that the population has the opportunity to go there - solemnly, to the sound of music. This population should remember for a long time that they had a democratic opportunity to tick off wherever they want, that is, in a democracy, each ram has the right to choose who will cut it. It is absolutely clear that the economy, large competitive business cannot take such a great risk - the arbitrary appointment of managers of the state apparatus, as God puts their souls. ” And further. “I will repeat and clarify in order to understand the technology of managing society, any society. A group of people exercising power, say, in a state, decides on the form of this power. Now, for example, this is a form of democracy when the general public is convinced that they are governed by those whom they have chosen in the voting booths. HA HA ».
          1. -8
            3 October 2015 19: 41
            Quote: mrark
            The words of O. Deripaska himself in confirmation

            Distribute fakes (lies, in other words)? Oh well negative

            This is an interview - whether it was, or was not, already in the 2006 year.

            Until now, some are sweeping; laughing
            1. MrK
              +8
              3 October 2015 20: 50
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Distribute fakes (lies, in other words)? Oh well
              This is an interview - whether it was, or was not, already in the 2006 year.


              Defender of the oligarchs. And what about the 2014 of the year. The same fakes.
              Here is Herman Gref: “You say terrible things. You propose to transfer power into the hands of the population ... As soon as people understand the basis of their "I" and self-identify, it will become extremely difficult to manipulate them. People don't want to be manipulated when they have knowledge. How to manage a society where everyone has equal access to information, everyone has the opportunity to receive unprepared information through government-trained analysts, political scientists and huge media machines engaged in building and maintaining (social) strata? I’m getting scared from your reasoning, to be honest, I think you don’t quite understand what you’re saying. ”.
              Notice. These words were not spoken at a secret party, but at the All-Russian Economic Forum in 2014. This is how much it is necessary to HATE YOUR PEOPLE AND BE CINEMA CINEMAL, TO PUBLICALLY, OUTDOOR, EXPRESS THE MOST ESSENCE OF LIBERAL FASCISM. But as they say - the higher the macaque climbs on the tree, the better visible its Naked Liberal Ass.
              1. -7
                3 October 2015 21: 11
                Quote: mrark
                The defender of the oligarchs

                Eh .. more careful there .. with terminology fool

                The article you deigned to refer to is fake. This is a statement of fact.

                This does not mean that I really like "aligarhs". It only means that I don't like liars wink

                Quote: mrark
                Herman Gref ...

                This, mind you, is a new question. The link to the source is usually given, by the way. In educated people.

                Here it is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVxn9q9GL_0)

                Quote: mrark
                These words were not spoken at a secret party, but at the All-Russian Economic Forum in 2014 year

                Someone deceived you, the words were spoken earlier than June 25, 2012. Because that day the video appeared on the internet. Learn materiel .. Yes

                Quote: mrark
                This is how much it is necessary to HATE YOUR PEOPLE AND BE MUCH CINEMA ...

                Get off the capsa ..

                Gref, of course, expressed his opinion .. in the style of "sometimes it's better to chew".

                But in his statement, IMHO, there is also a sound grain - for example, I am scared to think that someone like you suddenly was given to steer the state .. belay

                Chur me, chur ..
                1. +5
                  4 October 2015 03: 06
                  Cat. It seems that there is knowledge. But the nature is squabble. It turns out, neither myself, nor people.
                  Sometimes it seems that you try to vulgarize everything with a specialist.
                  My minus. If you read, answer the same. I will know that the message has arrived. tongue
                  1. -2
                    4 October 2015 03: 15
                    Quote: Babr
                    Cat

                    Babr hi

                    Quote: Babr
                    the impression is made by the specialist you try to vulgarize everything

                    Not in the slightest No.

                    All that is written above is sincerely .. only sincerely Yes

                    Quote: Babr
                    Minus mine

                    Yes and goblin with him

                    Quote: Babr
                    I will know that the message has arrived

                    In both senses wink
                    1. +1
                      4 October 2015 03: 40
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Not in the slightest

                      Well, share your knowledge! angry
                      But not like a marketer in a bazaar. lol
                      1. +1
                        4 October 2015 03: 45
                        What is this feline family beating? laughing
                      2. +2
                        4 October 2015 03: 50
                        Not a, I teach a small-minded person how to carry to the masses, healthy, good eternal. lol
                      3. 0
                        4 October 2015 04: 13
                        Quote: Babr
                        Not a, I teach a small-minded person how to carry to the masses a healthy, good, eternal

                        Babr, with all due respect .. You’d better teach a colleague mrARK:

                        - elementary logic (in a minimum, at least, volume)
                        - do not rush at strangers

                        It would be, to her right, it was more useful .. but about what-to-whom-where-to-carry - I myself am like a thread, Mona?
                      4. +2
                        4 October 2015 04: 19
                        Rum ... start with yourself. hi
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        You’d better teach your mrARK colleague:
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                      6. -1
                        4 October 2015 03: 55
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        ? What is beating about?

                        about Claudia, dear polemicist .. laughing
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                      8. +2
                        4 October 2015 04: 04
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        ? What is beating about?

                        about Claudia, dear polemicist .. laughing

                        Ish ... just one !!! belay
                        One is one. Two is already a bazaar.
                        Three is already too much. request
                        Retire
            2. 0
              4 October 2015 19: 18
              the essence of the described process does not change
    2. +43
      3 October 2015 06: 18
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      I thought at last who would explain to the dark ....


      And they explain to you. The Eat Russia party is the most hardworking, democratic, independent, caring for the Motherland and the prosperity of the people.
      The question is only what kind of people?
      1. +25
        3 October 2015 06: 20
        Quote: nils
        The question is only what kind of people?

        Not state-forming. And God's chosen one.
        1. +20
          3 October 2015 08: 28
          Quote: Babr
          And God's chosen one.


          In quotes, take "God's chosen", they are Satanists. With them, Jesus fought at their hands and died (in fact).
          1. +6
            3 October 2015 08: 55
            Quote: Rarog
            Quote: Babr
            And God's chosen one.


            In quotes, take "God's chosen", they are Satanists. With them, Jesus fought at their hands and died (in fact).

            To blame. soldier I will be corrected!
        2. +9
          3 October 2015 15: 44
          Speaking of the "chosen by God." Our guarantor signed a decree on the construction of the "Wall of Sorrow" in Moscow. We will "grieve" about the Stalinist times and "political repressions". The "Wall of Sorrow" will be erected according to the project of the sculptor Georgy Frangulyan. Among Frangulyan's works there is a monument to Russian President Boris Yeltsin in Yekaterinburg. And here we are torn about the tsar and his boyars. Everything from the "dear father" is coming. The Torah will be forced to teach. Sholem Aleichem to everyone gathered here.
      2. +14
        3 October 2015 06: 33
        Quote: nils
        They explain to you. Party ... rejoicing for the homeland and prosperity of the people.
        The question is only what kind of people?

        Ash stump, alien people. Who really chooses - he really appoints and rules. We were left with the opportunity to tweet only with a pencil. What may not be clear here.
        1. +8
          3 October 2015 06: 49
          Quote: venaya
          Quote: nils
          They explain to you. Party ... rejoicing for the homeland and prosperity of the people.
          The question is only what kind of people?

          Ash stump, alien people. Who really chooses - he really appoints and rules. We were left with the opportunity to tweet only with a pencil. What may not be clear here.

          still knock on the keyboard for now .. soon they will get to the Internet as soon as they drag the server to the territory of Russia ... then just like that, we will not write about "Medvedko-iPhone", we will all like Meehan with Baikonur - Hurray to shout ..
          1. +5
            3 October 2015 08: 09
            I wonder who is minus - "Medvedko-iPhone" or Meehan with Boykonur? laughing
            1. +8
              3 October 2015 09: 53
              I put the minus only very bad! Hurray screaming when there are achievements and positive results! I respect Putin, but it’s apparently impossible for him to shoot some, maybe there are some secret agreements (it’s not just that he became and holds on to the president), maybe this is generally a world conspiracy. About our government (except, for example, Shoigu, Lavrov, Puchkov), I always say that these are hucksters, grabbers and enemies of the people, robbers of socialist property! And the peppy part of the deputies!
              1. +1
                3 October 2015 14: 07
                Zhenya, I in no way do not want to offend you, everyone has their own understanding and expression of emotions drinks
      3. +7
        3 October 2015 09: 47
        Quote: nils
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        I thought at last who would explain to the dark ....


        And they explain to you. The Eat Russia party is the most hardworking, democratic, independent, caring for the Motherland and the prosperity of the people.
        The question is only what kind of people?

        What, What? -American Now I saw the true face of the registered patriot-deputy S. Zheleznyak, who is spitting saliva on the screen, but in fact he is pro-American.
      4. +1
        3 October 2015 09: 59
        For the people who chose her.
        1. +10
          3 October 2015 15: 11
          Nikolay K.Many times I had to work in precinct commissions. This is the lowest level at which the majority of rangers are from candidates, from parties. So by the end of the day there is constantly shaking and recounting of voters, Suddenly I have to hold elections again, because the turnout is low . I don’t know how to rig the results at the district level, as party inspectors stand above the soul. Usually the results that are published in the city or region are not very different from the district ones. But this is not what you rigged you heard from people who scored to the polls. To the question, why didn’t they go? Answer; Do I need this? Now, with the current system of vote counting, EP wins. And grandmothers they used to vote for those who are in power all their life. The authorities promised to add a little pension or did something that they promised, that’s the grandmother’s happy. Now, count the votes of those who didn’t vote and divide them proportionally between the candidates and it turns out that the votes didn’t vote basically add to those who won more votes, that is, to the winner. And it turns out that those who did not come to vote, vote for their opponents
      5. +11
        3 October 2015 10: 04
        Quote: nils
        The question is only what kind of people?


        Yes, any other, Dear colleague, except Russian! But the fact that EdRo is a gobbling governing codla, in my opinion, no one doubts.
        And the article, of course, angered me, to the core. How many more will these "people's choices" will spread rot on my homeland. We must go to the polls !!!

        Somehow emotionally, well, excuse me, hurt. hi
        1. +3
          3 October 2015 12: 52
          Vladimir, you understand, we will start going to the polls right away they will come up with another trick besides the "carousel" .. it will not help unambiguously, playing with a sharper who has two aces in his sleeve is unrealistic ..
          I think EP will pick up from about 60 - 72 percent in the elections, then another castling awaits us, maybe this time Medvedev will not be and this is the whole system step
          1. +9
            3 October 2015 13: 04
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Vladimir, you understand, we will start going to the polls right away they will come up with another trick besides the "carousel" .. it will not help unambiguously, playing with a sharper who has two aces in his sleeve is unrealistic ..


            Nikolay, they’ll come up with something new, and I won’t argue with you. But as colleagues correctly note, in the Irkutsk region, EdRosa was driven in full. And if you argue like you, then generally do everything is pointless. I do not agree, we must try, even if they create at least some difficulties. And the fact that they are afraid of a big turnout, they themselves admitted by canceling the threshold. They thereby removed the passive part of the electorate from the election and that’s all. Now, at least two people come to the polls, all the elections have taken place, and it doesn’t matter that the two are the candidate himself and his wife.
            In the Krasnodar Territory, for example, the EdRosovsky candidate was voted by the number of residents corresponding (according to official statistics) to the number of budget employees! Cool?

            It’s necessary, Kolya, it’s necessary, Yes hi go to the polls in 2016!
            1. +2
              3 October 2015 13: 55
              Ok Volodya I’m going to the polls laughing Only on the example of Irkutsk is a feverish method being created so that henceforth no one encroaches on a sacred cow hi
              1. +2
                3 October 2015 14: 52
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                Well Volodya will go to the polls. Only on the example of Irkutsk is a feverish method being created now so that no one would encroach on the sacred cow

                Kolya, we’ll be two with us already. good hi
                1. +2
                  3 October 2015 20: 54
                  there are three of us! and not only three, but many more !. I always go to elections and vote with my head! after the Edrosovsky deputy got himself covered in Irkutsk, I am sure in the government and in the Duma they will come up with a lot of things that would not be pushed away from the trough. So let's guys breathe new life into the old soviet slogan: "EVERYTHING FOR THE ELECTION!" Well, we'll see who will take it! good Yes
              2. 0
                4 October 2015 19: 50
                Just go ahead and vote for any others. And the smaller the party we choose, the better. Despite political preferences, my candidate, for example, passed away 431 a year ago.
    3. -27
      3 October 2015 06: 35
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      in the furnace article

      Of course, populists, Katasonov, Fedorov, as well as Zhirnovsky, because of their ill-conceived extremely frivolous and premature judgments, such emotional patriots who perceive and evaluate everything literally, throwing drafts at the head of any enemy they showed themselves, will never rise to the podium, otherwise firewood on break be healthy. Regarding the law, Karpov correctly said why take the sign without having a slight idea of ​​the consequences, and even the war issues themselves, although sanctions are the prerogative of the commander in chief and should not have public discussions, this is a war. In addition, it makes sense to hide audit data if everything is not good there, otherwise it is better to show muscles. It should be noted that the EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of the wisdom and consistency of the EP and completely refutes the author’s not very smart sensational conclusions drawn by the ears. Of course, the zeal of the patriots is laudable, and it doesn’t even surprise that they are played in the dark, or whether ours are strangers, well, many, by the simplicity of their souls, will never know ...
      z.Y. The plot is somewhat reminiscent of the heroes O. Yankovsky and R. Bykov from the movie "Two Comrades Served".
      1. +19
        3 October 2015 06: 50
        Quote: SPACE
        It should be noted that the EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of wisdom

        Yes, as in the saying. Shut up, you will marry a smart one.
        1. +4
          3 October 2015 18: 31
          Quote: SPACE
          It should be noted that the EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of wisdom


          They did not abstain; they did not vote at all. And if we assume that they were not in the hall, then generally tryndets turns out. More than half of the audience gets drunk somewhere, and the rest covers them, knowing in advance that the law will not pass due to a lack of labor.
      2. +25
        3 October 2015 07: 30
        Quote: SPACE
        EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of the wisdom and consistency of EP

        And to see how the EP generally votes and what laws it is pushing through? And see the income of ERovtsev? Millions a year. Is it for the salary of a deputy? About wisdom. Not wisely, but stupidly kept silent, as indicated to them.
        1. +7
          3 October 2015 07: 43
          An interesting little list ...

          Comrade Stalin must be resurrected and given to him! I wonder what decision he would make?))
          1. +14
            3 October 2015 08: 38
            I think, under Joseph Vissarionovich, such officials would be engaged in occupational therapy in the fresh air in ecologically clean areas of our country! hi
      3. +5
        3 October 2015 09: 50
        Space:
        I wonder who you are in life? Obviously not an average Russian. What is the position? So you lay down your bones for Eat Russia.
      4. +4
        3 October 2015 20: 59
        and your post reminds me of a DAM’s speech and of the beloved goat of Chubais by everyone: a lot of water and excuses for the authorities, and real affairs - 0,0000000 ..... 1%. Don't you think so? look at the cons that the forum participants put. And by the way: do you really think all of us are such idiots who cannot understand what's what?
      5. 0
        5 October 2015 13: 30
        So why didn't they express their opinion, "abstain"
        they just didn’t vote
        You still need to express your opinion ....
    4. -4
      3 October 2015 07: 58
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      What a beautiful beginning .. I thought at last someone would explain to the dark, they would confirm my suspicions, but everything happened in a showdown


      It is difficult for some "dark" ones to explain anything because they even do not want to comprehend black on white or cannot ... In my opinion, there is nothing difficult to draw conclusions about the content of the document and the results of the vote. Another question is how to carry out the correct decisions? And the consequences of these steps must be calculated. But it is not difficult to draw a conclusion, it is more difficult to understand yourself - in which trench am I?
      1. +3
        3 October 2015 08: 44
        I understand you are "light" wassat
        1. 0
          11 October 2015 15: 53
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          I understand you are "light" wassat


          Note that you understood and said this yourself.
    5. 0
      3 October 2015 12: 28
      As for me, it’s not to ALL the thoughts of any scale, and not to spend money on this gathering of no one unnecessary idiots, they still don’t make REAL decisions, everything less significant is decided and accepted in the Kremlin! So let the president appoint everyone, and those who are appointed above him recruit people on their own and for THIS BE RESPONSIBLE! All! There is no need for any elections (all this is a filkin letter), no deputies, only DESIGNATED people! And when asked where this incompetent bloke came from, it will not be an abstract "chosen in the elections", but the specific surname of the person who appointed him .. Yes, there will be mistakes, including the president who put an incompetent person to the post and other flaws, but they (flaws) will always be because this is life, the only question is how much the percentage of these errors will decrease .. With a direct appointment, asking for the result will be much easier and more reliable than under a "democratic" electoral system ..
      1. +6
        3 October 2015 13: 38
        It would seem an ideal solution ... However, the problem is that Putin is not forever. If another Humpbacked or EBN creeps into power again, then it will not seem to everyone, there is nowhere to retreat further.
        1. +5
          3 October 2015 13: 57
          If Medvedev crawls to power already enough to experience ..
        2. MrK
          +2
          3 October 2015 19: 42
          Quote: Baikal
          If another Humpbacked or EBN creeps into power again, then it will not seem to everyone, there is nowhere to retreat further.

          Yeah And why not the new Stalin. Or did henchiness shake right away with a particular ethnic group?
          1. 0
            11 October 2015 15: 57
            Quote: mrark
            Yeah And why not the new Stalin. Or did henchiness shake right away with a particular ethnic group?

            For Stalin, enemies were determined not by ethnicity, but by activities harmful to the people. Therefore, they called him the people - the Leader ...
    6. +3
      3 October 2015 14: 06
      "We are not firemen, we are not carpenters, But there are no bitter regrets, And we ..." and we are grants-eaters - high-altitude workers .. "And hello to you from above."
      .... yes. how many of them !! laughing
    7. +3
      3 October 2015 17: 14
      GOOD MAN. Edros party of thieves and forekeepers. Who is being imprisoned or put on trial all the time, especially in the regions? Deputies from Edrosov, who makes anti popular decisions ?? they are
    8. 0
      3 October 2015 17: 14
      GOOD MAN. Edros party of thieves and forekeepers. Who is being imprisoned or put on trial all the time, especially in the regions? Deputies from Edrosov, who makes anti popular decisions ?? they are
    9. +1
      4 October 2015 03: 10
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      What a beautiful beginning .. I thought at last someone would explain to the dark, they would confirm my suspicions, but it all came down to dismantling in the Duma, and in general Karpov, who was closer to the communists rather than to the fifth column, to the firebox article


      Convinced colleagues laughing As for the furnace, the article was wrong, judging by the discussion of the reserve for living people .. plus article
  2. +10
    3 October 2015 05: 26
    The country must know its "heroes"! By name and with addresses (for the future).
    Thanks to the United Russia, the term "GosDura" is firmly entrenched in this institution of power. Either you are there EP "dr.k" or "traitor".
    But such communication of the processes and results of the work of this "body" must be communicated in a simple and clear form to the population, as here, on popular patriotic sites.
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 05: 43
      Quote: SibSlavRus
      Thanks to the United Russia, the term "GosDura" is firmly entrenched in this institution of power.

      The most important, most pressing issues are voiced by such a deputy as Fedorov. Well, no way, and in what he does not look like a leader. It would be nice to look in this room for something more appropriate to the task. It seemed like they were, but very quickly they pricked up to die, especially from the heart, and this is in good health.
    2. +8
      3 October 2015 05: 59
      Yes, the country has known its "heroes" for a long time - the sense is that from this .. marsh is not acceptable for normal people, but there are no other options, so it remains that on the sites their steam is released ..
      1. +3
        3 October 2015 06: 38
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Yes, the country has long known its "heroes

        And I even respected these three from the list. A real enemy who understands.
        Face to face, you know what to expect from them. And the rest (who did not vote), spineless, understanding amoeba nothing?
        1. +5
          3 October 2015 09: 12
          Quote: Babr
          And the rest (who did not vote), spineless, understanding amoeba nothing?
          It is with their tacit consent that all evil on earth is committed! (C) Abstaining is more honest than not voting, but it is clear that there are big problems with honesty in the State Duma. ERovtsy somehow need to publicly justify this sabotage, clearly answer for it, otherwise the people's dislike for this "party of chiefs" may eventually turn into hatred.
          1. +5
            3 October 2015 13: 03
            Quote: Stanislav
            Quote: Babr
            And the rest (who did not vote), spineless, understanding amoeba nothing?
            It is with their tacit consent that all evil on earth is committed! (C) Abstaining is more honest than not voting, but it is clear that there are big problems with honesty in the State Duma. ERovtsy somehow need to publicly justify this sabotage, clearly answer for it, otherwise the people's dislike for this "party of chiefs" may eventually turn into hatred.


            "Do not be afraid of criminals, be afraid of the indifferent - it is with their tacit consent that crimes occur" Julius Fucik
            1. +3
              3 October 2015 15: 22
              Thank you very much for this quote from Julius Fuchek. You can’t say better.
              1. 0
                4 October 2015 02: 48
                Hi fellow 11th Army good
        2. +4
          3 October 2015 09: 56
          Babr:
          Yes, they are not amoeba! They are the notorious fifth column. For their behavior, supposedly ours, do more harm than open opponents.
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    1. +22
      3 October 2015 05: 40
      Your truth, Born in the USSR! We need a mechanism for quick replacement and rotation of the "chosen ones". Sometimes you look at these "initiatives" and faces, and, excuse me, nothing but a firearm or a cold one does not ask for.
      And after all, these "chosen ones" know about their impunity and irresponsibility, which is the basis of permissiveness.
      The upper house of Parliament, the one that SovFed is generally something with something! It’s enough to figure out what is sitting there. And this is the lower house filter. And we still sometimes wonder.
      1. +9
        3 October 2015 07: 32
        About the deputies of the State Duma and the Federation Council - business and only business, or anything personal, therefore, some people's deputies sit in the State Duma for 10-15 years, and the Federation Council is generally a sump for thieving governors and other officials. You can say a class of professional parasites has appeared. Alas!
    2. +8
      3 October 2015 06: 21
      Quote: Born in the USSR
      And it would happen that he did not come 3 times and the mandate to the table is free and go for a walk.

      While the leader of the EP is fighting the world's evil, the rest skip school. They think that they will be left in the second year.
      But in the USSR such a deputy could be recalled, now party lists. sad
      1. +13
        3 October 2015 07: 52
        Quote: Tusv
        While the leader of the EP is fighting the world's evil

        At the moment, the leader of the EP party is Dmitry Medvedev, and he is fighting not with evil, but with sleep.
        1. BMW
          +4
          3 October 2015 10: 38
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          Currently, the leader of the EP party is Dmitry Medvedev


          The amount does not change from the change of place of the terms, only for some reason we have the opposite.
      2. +5
        3 October 2015 09: 10
        EP showed itself in the Duma not in the best way. Karpov was instructed to read a piece of paper in which he understood absolutely nothing. In fact, not a single objection worth it! Naked sabotage! I am ashamed of the fraction! belay angry
      3. +5
        3 October 2015 09: 24
        Quote: Tusv
        such a deputy could be recalled in the USSR
        At least one was recalled? laughing
        I recalled the joke of those times.
        At the lawyer.
        - Tell me, do I have the right to work?
        - Of course!
        - Is there a right to rest?
        - But what about!
        - Tell me, but I can ...
        - In no case!
      4. +3
        3 October 2015 16: 43
        Quote: Tusv
        But in the USSR it was possible to recall such a deputy, now party lists
        27.05.2005

        The State Duma of the V convocation will be elected on a proportional basis. Yesterday, the State Duma Committee on Constitutional Legislation recommended the adoption in the second reading of the draft law "On the election of deputies of the State Duma." So far, the lower house of parliament is elected according to a mixed principle: half of the deputies are elected by the majority system, half by proportional. According to the new norm, proposed by the president of Russia, the entire composition of the lower house of parliament is proposed to be elected exclusively on party lists. In the first reading, the bill was adopted on December 24, 2004. Then the bill was supported by 338 deputies, 68 voted against, 2 abstained.

        http://www.rbp.ru/news/?uid=145
  4. +20
    3 October 2015 05: 43
    Why did they send a deputy to the Duma? If his new law does not suit him, you can vote - against or abstain, he can speak out - that he is not satisfied, add or remove something - BUT DO NOT VOTE - DIVERSION! I have long been convinced that that The "fifth column", which is not so dangerous on "Bolotnaya Ploschad" - the country (it is possible to send SOBR to it), but the one that has settled in power. They live and work according to "templates" from beyond the hill, and do not change anything. There are those in the Duma, the government, the Central Bank, etc. And the media in their pockets - now United Russia will prove on all channels that she was right, or even shut up - there was no such project, there was no vote. negative hi
  5. -1
    3 October 2015 06: 03
    Welcome all! The names of those who are against and did not vote are known, so what is the problem ... FSB of all "on a pencil" and work, WORK ...
    1. +11
      3 October 2015 06: 15
      Quote: name
      Welcome all! The names of those who are against and did not vote are known, so what is the problem ... FSB of all "on a pencil" and work, WORK ...

      Do you still believe in this dick? or just a post marked?
  6. +20
    3 October 2015 06: 04
    EP once again dotted all i. It's time, people, to make a decision - if the candidate from EP - for this we do not vote. Through and through a rotten party, and as such it was created. Out of 238 - only 2 normal person! This should be considered.
    1. +6
      3 October 2015 06: 24
      The party of power, no matter how it is called, like a sponge, by definition, absorbs all kinds of crooks. Unfortunately, this cannot be avoided.
      1. BMW
        +11
        3 October 2015 08: 38
        Quote: venaya
        The party of power, no matter how it is called, like a sponge, by definition, absorbs all kinds of crooks. Unfortunately, this cannot be avoided.


        Nonsense - EP is a pocket party of the aligarchy, and conducts personnel policy on the basis of this.
        1. +6
          3 October 2015 10: 10
          EP pocket party of Putin and Medvedev, you need to proceed from this.
          1. BMW
            +4
            3 October 2015 14: 30
            Quote: Nikolai K
            EP pocket party of Putin and Medvedev, you need to proceed from this.


            And what, you somehow separate them from aligarchy? Or is it morons who twirl as they want?
            1. +1
              4 October 2015 00: 20
              I just do not share it. There are simply naive people who say: "I am for Putin, but against the oligarchs," not realizing that it just doesn't happen. Now Putin depends on the ruling "elite" much more than on the opinion of the people. He brilliantly learned to "manage" democracy, but he missed the moment when he himself became ruled by his own friends, of whom he made oligarchs. In today's Russia, revolution is not possible, but a palace coup is possible. Therefore, the fight against corruption, deoffshorization, economic and political reforms will continue to stall. Where this will lead is obvious. But still, I really want to do without revolutions.
      2. 0
        3 October 2015 17: 23
        I’m afraid even if you change the party, nothing will change, there will be a multi-party system in general, not one law will pass, it has already been so.
        In my opinion everything is just obvious ..
        It is clear that the party is the largest in the Duma and does not follow the principle of purity of ranks, and if you suspect everyone, mania will soon develop winked
        It’s better for me that they let them work, but periodically make an indicative flogging in the form of a landing of one of the members so that they don’t relax and they will lobby the bills that are vital for the country to see very soon and their ranks will become cleaner than other alternatives at this time unfortunately not..
        The country needs rapid adoption of laws that are being created in real time for development. Voted for the president ??? So his methods of work are such that now he’s raising a cry ..
        WAITING FOR CONS !! laughing
        1. MrK
          +2
          3 October 2015 19: 47
          Quote: RUS69
          The country needs rapid adoption of laws that are created in real time for development

          With pleasure. And tell me: what laws have been adopted by this sick printer for development over the past three years?
          After all, the country's economy has been falling for the third year.
        2. +1
          4 October 2015 03: 31
          Quote: RUS69
          For me it’s better that they let them work but periodically do an indicative flogging in the form of a landing of one of the members

          And this is not your invention. This happens all the time. People are constantly thrown a bone, in the form of Makarevich, Serdyukov, Sobchak and others. And while the people, gnawing, gnawing, the caravan calmly goes on.
    2. +5
      3 October 2015 08: 30
      candidate from EP - we don’t vote for this.
      it's time to understand everyone. I support.
    3. +4
      3 October 2015 10: 09
      Do you know in our country other parties for whom you can vote? We have either populists or senility or six. The political field is protected to a brilliance.
    4. 0
      3 October 2015 16: 47
      Quote: EvgNik
      EP once again dotted all i. It's time, people, to make a decision - if the candidate from EP - for this we do not vote. Through rotten batch
      2 times nominating Putin as a presidential candidate laughing
  7. +22
    3 October 2015 06: 08
    Great layout. Why the hell do you need a deputy who does not vote? Cowardice? No, this is not cowardice, this is opportunism and the absence of one’s own position.
    It is clear that factionalism dominates. EP decided to "merge" the question. But why this way? Do not like to vote against. I did not vote, out of the Duma. Parasites in power are more terrible than enemies.
    To be honest, I generally think that all votes should be roll-call. And "absenteeism" of a certain number of votes should be a reason for depriving a deputy of his mandate. Voted for one person, and then this person refuses and we get a parasite from the following list.
    Probably, it is necessary to change something in the law on deputies.
    1. +8
      3 October 2015 06: 58
      Quote: domokl
      ? Don't like vote against

      Hi Sanya! So Putin hasn’t said anything about this yet, so they sat and stupid not knowing how to vote. They simply did not know which button to press in this case laughing
      1. +3
        3 October 2015 07: 12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They just did not know which button to press in this case

        Am I falling away from such impudence? belay
        Well, also a variant of what happened lol
      2. +4
        3 October 2015 09: 15
        Well, they didn’t get an instruction ... And then the stuttering Karpov got out of it and his objections - “we don’t know what could happen ..” SHAME!
      3. MrK
        0
        3 October 2015 19: 49
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They just did not know which button to press in this case

        That's right. Their bosses forgot to tell them.
    2. BMW
      +6
      3 October 2015 08: 44
      Quote: domokl
      To be honest, I generally think that all voting should be by name.


      Absolutely true. +

      Quote: domokl
      And "absenteeism" of a certain number of votes should be a reason for depriving a deputy of his mandate.


      Not a cause, but a reason for automatic deprivation. TK has not yet been canceled.
    3. +10
      3 October 2015 10: 15
      If you are not in the know, in the elections you did not vote for a specific person, but for the party. And already the party appoints riders to the Duma, who vote as they are told, for which they receive / buy parliamentary immunity. Since they did not vote, then there was such an indication from EP. And in general, have you seen how many deputies really go to the meeting? We do not have the supreme legislation of the body, this is profanity.
      1. BMW
        +4
        3 October 2015 10: 50
        Quote: Nikolai K
        If you don’t know, in the elections you didn’t vote for a specific person, but for the party


        In the last elections of September 13.09.2015, XNUMX, we chose a governor, a specific person. By the way, Ilyukhin, a member of EP, was chosen. EP won almost everywhere. Trust EP to go nuts. So do not need water. Here is the answer:
        1. The election results are rigged.
        2. Most just lie, they voted for EP, and here they scold.
        1. -2
          3 October 2015 17: 29
          Option number 2 straight to the point !!!
          But there really is no one to vote for this party any lesser of evils today!
          And the staff, by the way, are all from the regions, so Cavo has grown that and we are content with gentlemen smile
  8. +14
    3 October 2015 06: 12
    The EP party of officials and big business is the conduit of the Kremlin’s ideas .. therefore, the fight against the proliferation of bureaucracy is doomed in advance who will destroy its electoral layer .. As recently as today I listened to Medvedev’s tambourine and thought again under spells of reduction - even more parasites to us they’ll be put on the neck especially on the eve of the elections to the Duma. Elections in Irkutsk scared EP more they will not allow this.
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 08: 47
      During the election of the governor of the Amur Region in the city of Blagoveshchensk, Abramov (LDPR) gained more votes than Kozlov (United Russia) hi , we just saw what it is, this Kozlov belay , because he managed to visit the mayor of Blagoveshchensk recourse ! But in the region the villagers felt that they needed Kozlov fool I will listen to their opinion about him in a year lol ! In our area, the EP has a very precarious position, and there were enough oddities in the vote count, well, the Liberal Democratic Party itself got it!
      1. +5
        3 October 2015 10: 18
        Yeah, if people are forced to vote for the talkers of the Zhirinovites, apparently there is absolutely no one to choose from. Brought the country with such elections in the form of controlled democracy
        1. -2
          3 October 2015 17: 32
          As history has shown our people do not fit democracy, we need totalitarianism.
          From democracy, we fool fast.
      2. +1
        3 October 2015 15: 50
        kot28.ru By the way, Vanya Abramov is on the same list as at the beginning of the article. The list of candidates in the Amur Region did not have bright personalities. Dragunov is a dark horse. Kobyzov and Abramov who have become familiar for a long time, I wouldn’t put them especially. And Kozlov, to whom all conditions were created. The most important thing is that none of them has a management team. He takes his own skin to Sakhalin.
  9. +17
    3 October 2015 06: 16
    Well, it's not for nothing that they are called Eat Russia. Our deputies, as Lenin used to say, are Political Prostitutes. Almost everyone was at Our Gazprom home. As the people ceased to vote for them, bam a new party and there are still the same faces. And so they hang out there. With them, if you remove the immunity, then you can almost half safely plant.
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 10: 20
      Nothing, now EP, led by DAM, will fulfill its mission, they will merge and create a new party of power like the National Front, but with the same characters.
  10. +16
    3 October 2015 06: 25
    "United Russia" is slowly but surely reborn into a "Fifth Column" ... no criminal case ... EP ... what's on top ... what's on the ground. At the same time, they are actively introducing their people on behalf of Putin, actively discrediting him .. I am not speaking unfounded ... the activities of the Governor of the Trans-Baikal Territory ... Ilkovsky (representative of the God's chosen people) ...
    1. +6
      3 October 2015 07: 45
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      "United Russia" is slowly but surely reborn into a "United Fifth Column

      The EP has always been the fifth column since its inception. Here, I judge by my city. When a cell was formed in the city, privatizers, bosses of all stripes, officials were the first to enter it. Then, under the threat of dismissal, the workers were forced to join. It didn't work out very well - they refused too many, and you can't fire everyone. So this is the party of the "fifth column" without options.
    2. -2
      3 October 2015 10: 25
      Well, yes, Putin is good, and all the other crooks are discriminating against him. It seems like something I have already heard. Oh, yes, we still had the father of the peoples, Comrade Stalin, around him there were also solid Trotskyists, bandists and other enemies of the people. It is very touching to listen to fairy tales about the good king and bad retinue. . .
      1. +2
        3 October 2015 21: 14
        Dear Nikolai ... cast aside your emotions about Putin and Comrade Stalin ... if of course you can do it and objectively evaluate the merits of THEM in comparison ... it's so simple ... Personally, I myself had to reconsider my attitude towards Comrade Stalin .. and of course to those "comrades" who threw mud at him ... it's never too late .. to try to understand the truth of things .. Good luck ...
  11. +10
    3 October 2015 06: 38
    They that will vote against themselves? wassat It’s better not to vote .... from their point of view. wassat
    But how to evaluate such a "demarche" from the voter's point of view? Sudden diarrhea of ​​the deputies who did not have time to hand over their voting cards to colleagues before going to the toilet. Or absence from a meeting due to a sudden excursion to a foreign resort? So for what the hell they pay money. In any case, the deputy must express his opinion on the bill. Otherwise, why the hell do we need it there.
  12. +10
    3 October 2015 06: 40
    deliberately sabotaged the bill.

    Which is absolutely possible, because over all this is really like sabotage (harming the state using official position). So part of the top is beneficial that
    foreign organizations are currently conducting an audit of most strategic enterprises in Russia

    But who will deal with this is a big question.
    1. BMW
      +6
      3 October 2015 08: 49
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But who will deal with this is a big question.


      Yes, no one will. Which one will chop itself?
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 08: 52
        Perhaps EP will not draw conclusions, but the people will think about it.
        1. BMW
          +2
          3 October 2015 09: 51
          Quote: rotmistr60
          but the people will think about it.


          No, you are very mistaken. Recent elections are proof of this. People lost faith and did not go to the polls. In our region, there was a record low turnout, for all the time this was only once.
  13. +4
    3 October 2015 06: 44
    Does anyone really think that this was a spontaneous decision of each deputy from the United Russia? Another "approvals"! And the money for THESE is a pity, it could have been for more necessary things ...
  14. +9
    3 October 2015 06: 49
    Did not vote - it did not do its job! Was, wasn’t - but he didn’t come to the machine - did he get a salary? Not an order. I didn’t get acquainted with the draft law, therefore, as a matter of fact, I can’t say, but the fact that people really being in the conference room did not vote, did not oppose - well, they didn’t work, in general. I would propose a simple scheme - I did not vote - absenteeism, do not pay salaries, and a fine - double the amount for daily earnings. I suspect that like a hand ...
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 10: 29
      They have such a job, to vote as they say, for that they receive money, and at the same time parliamentary immunity. Moreover, some people like this work so much that they themselves are willing to pay extra to get it.
  15. +7
    3 October 2015 07: 07
    but for me it’s half of these ,, servants of the people, ”they have to be driven out of the Duma, and even better, transplanted to the balance. ate rozhitak so that the TV screen does not fit. and give them apartments and personal cars ... they would give each room in a communal apartment, yes, according to Zaporizhzhya, then they really would be servants of the people!
    1. +13
      3 October 2015 07: 53
      Quote: Tomsk
      would give every little room in a communal apartment yes for Zaporizhzhya,

      In general, I think that the deputy’s salary should be 10 times the minimum in Russia. Then the salaries of the workers would have jumped, and it would be easier to trace cases of income outside parliamentary activity. Yes, and would not be torn there like that - by 10t then minimal.
      1. +2
        3 October 2015 10: 31
        Do not believe it would be torn. They do not work there for salaries.
        1. +3
          3 October 2015 12: 19
          Quote: Nikolai K
          They do not work there for salaries.

          Clear business not for a salary. That to them on pocket expenses.
          1. 0
            3 October 2015 21: 46
            Clear business not for a salary. That to them on pocket expenses
            .
            And then enough horseradish wassat
  16. +10
    3 October 2015 07: 14
    Quote: domokl
    Probably, it is necessary to change something in the law on deputies.

    And how do you imagine it? The laws are considered by these "deputies". They will take anything against themselves? Maybe they will also reduce their salary ?! request laughing hi
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 10: 33
      The current changes in the electoral law were initiated by Putin. All questions to him. And anyway, what claims do you dislike about controlled democracy?
  17. +13
    3 October 2015 07: 15
    Let me go to room 6. I am "floating"!
    Foreign auditors at Uralvagonzavod !!!.
    It is a pity for Stalin and Beria, they are not allowed to lie down calmly, modern, openly acting, traitors to the motherland.
    Where are we going ?!
  18. +7
    3 October 2015 07: 25
    And why are these "refusals" from voting still not equated with a banal truancy, with all the ensuing monetary consequences, up to deductions from vacation pay? Isn't it time for our Guarantor to dissolve such a "non-working" Duma, let them "think" in the country or in the village, on the rubble! Or Vladimir Putin is acting according to the principle that is attributed to him: he does not want to "beat his fist" on a heap of crap because will fly in all directions and will he slap everyone at all? So the raised Bill is not a joke about shit, but a conversation about a serious danger for Russia and its citizens! Well, if you don't want to work, hand over your Mandate and roll in all four directions, well, at least to America, but no "they are well fed here too!" It's time to stop feeding this horde of idlers, and the money saved on them should be better spent on social services, hospitals and education, but after all, the decision will again be made by the same familiar faces ... And so on in a circle ... And the elections we have already "passed, remember the words attributed to J. V. Stalin:" ... it does not matter how they vote, who matters and how he counts! "That again Nekrasovskoe" At the front entrance ":" ... the gentleman will come, the gentleman will judge us ... "and further in the text:" ... the old sang, the new one wiped his tears into his carriage and left to St. Petersburg (to the Kremlin) "!
  19. +5
    3 October 2015 07: 43
    I have pessimism and anger. AS IT
    Quote: askort154
    Let me go to room 6. I am "floating"!
    Foreign auditors at Uralvagonzavod !!!.
    It is a pity for Stalin and Beria, they are not allowed to lie down calmly, modern, openly acting, traitors to the motherland.
    Where are we going ?!

    maybe? Sheer betrayals. Like there were revelations.
    I re-read it again. I hoped, maybe somewhere something positive all of a sudden?
    Fedorova, I respect Katasonova, but as the previous commentators wrote, they are not leaders.
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 09: 16
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Fedorova, I respect Katasonova, but as the previous commentators wrote, they are not leaders.

      I respect Fedorov only because he made me think about many things about which I had not previously suspected. But he was allowed to say A, but he was not allowed to speak B.
      This is when the truth breaks out, it must be voiced but with significant omissions. And this means to take aside.
      But what else to expect from the "chosen of God"?
  20. +6
    3 October 2015 07: 48
    We don’t have any responsibility for anything, they ordered something and he loots his pocket and throws up his hands like it’s not my fault, it happened. I don’t argue earlier they also stole but did it, and they were afraid that they would plant and confiscate. And right now they are not afraid of anything, amnesty after 3 days. And now they are all orphans and they don’t have anything at home or over the hill. And to think with a head about what if something happens they’ll simply take away everything they have made by stealing and they will be trampless as they are in their essence. And all of the EP. Who will not be caught stealing and he is a poor fellow faithful adherent of EP. It’s not a shame for ourselves. To us, in 93 Americans, the Constitution was written, and all attempts to change it for the benefit of Russia do not fail precisely because of these figures. As such, the Center Bank of the country does not obey the leadership of it. But it submits to the FRS. USA. They lumpened, I want to work, I want no, but pay a pension, I'm a citizen of R.F. And the fact that I did not work and did not pay there does not bother me. I owe everything to anyone. The motto of the Liberals today.
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 16: 54
      Quote: Born in the USSR
      We in 93 Americans wrote the Constitution
      Maybe they wrote to you personally.

      And who voted for her?

      and all attempts to change it for the benefit of Russia fail
      Name at least one such attempt.

      As so, the Center Bank of the country does not obey the leadership thereof.
      Where did you get that disobeys?

      And obeys FRS. USA
      fool
  21. +6
    3 October 2015 07: 55
    Honest workers for being late for work are punished with various deprivations, and THESE deputies, coming to work, refuse to do it. Moreover, in an issue important for the country's security. They were shot for sabotage in wartime. And at the present time ?. - Refusal of deputies to vote - "draining" the interests of the country "quietly", vile.
  22. +4
    3 October 2015 08: 13
    It turns out in EP some provocateurs. But I think that we live so shitty.
  23. +7
    3 October 2015 08: 29
    Are all 268 people (99,2% of the composition of United Russia and different parts of other parties) suddenly abruptly and for good reason absent from the hall ?.
    America discovered ????? Their main leader DAM (you know) recently wrote a manifesto on the attitude to the market, and to liberalism in particular. In my opinion - he has nowhere to put stamps in the manifest. Gaidar-Chubais ideas in life, I would say so. And as the leader says, his whole servitor does just that.
  24. +3
    3 October 2015 08: 47
    actually dismissed for absenteeism
  25. +5
    3 October 2015 09: 03
    Actually, you need to deal with such behavior and as hard as possible. Until the deprivation of immunity. But the majority of those who did not vote from the United Russia party, how can this be so. After all, the party is ruling and supported by the president. After all, this is, by and large, sabotage.
  26. +3
    3 October 2015 09: 04
    Does anyone else have any illusions about PEDROS?
  27. +1
    3 October 2015 09: 13
    Why then Fedorov will not leave EP?
    Well, why did Fedorov vote (or did not appear to vote) for those laws against which he actively opposed (for example, Russia's accession to the WTO)?
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 16: 59
      Quote: ArcanAG
      Why then Fedorov will not leave EP?
      Well, why did Fedorov vote (or did not appear to vote) for those laws against which he actively opposed (for example, Russia's accession to the WTO)?
      Because the liar and the populist pushing legally illiterate shnyaga.

      Because both this and most of its other bills are a populist dummy that cannot be technically accepted, and which people happily hawt.

      GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION: CONCLUSION of November 18, 2014 N 7684п-П13

      It should be noted that the proposed definition of "aggressor country" does not correspond to the definition of "aggression" given in the UN General Assembly Resolution adopted on December 14, 1974.
      In addition, the bill does not take into account the provisions established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation (Articles 80, 86, 87, 114), the Federal Constitutional Law "On the Government of the Russian Federation" (Articles 13, 14, 21), the Federal Law "On Special Economic Measures" (Articles 1 - 4) delimitation of the powers of the President of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Russian Federation to take measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, as well as to introduce special economic measures, the basis of which is the emergence of a set of circumstances requiring an urgent response to an internationally wrongful act or unfriendly action of a foreign state, posing a threat to the interests and security of the Russian Federation and (or) violating the rights and freedoms of its citizens.
      The ban on state and municipal purchases of the services in question from affiliated or dependent Russian citizens or Russian legal entities established in the draft law does not comply with article 14 of the Federal Law "On the contract system in the field of procurement of goods, works, services to meet state and municipal needs" concerning the conditions of use national regime for the procurement of services from foreign citizens or legal entities.
      It should be noted that the draft law does not define the mechanisms for termination of activities for persons who, at the time of the introduction of the prohibitions stipulated by the draft law, carry out relevant activities on the territory of the Russian Federation, and did not assess the consequences of the adoption of the draft law for Russian legal entities present in international markets.
      The Government of the Russian Federation does not support the bill.

      http://base.consultant.ru/cons/cgi/online.cgi?req=doc;base=PRJ;n=125941;fld=134;
      from = 125578-6; rnd = 0.5882286767009646
      1. 0
        4 October 2015 01: 31
        There is a problem! And it must be solved, and not get off with crocheting and demagogy.
        1. 0
          4 October 2015 22: 39
          Quote: nikolaev
          There is a problem! And it must be solved, and not get off with crocheting and demagogy.
          So do not get off, but decide.

          I recommend starting with an increase in the educational level - so that such scribbles are not kept.
  28. +3
    3 October 2015 09: 23
    The author of the border of the 5th column took too narrowly. Everyone can offend deputies ...

    But who are these deputies - in fact, they are agents of the oligarchy and the ruling bureaucracy, including its highest strata with their liberal informational and intellectual service staff.

    It is there that the roots of these enemies must be unearthed, and at the level of deputies, only the tops of this treacherous - thieves layer of the country are visible.

    And further. All these so-called. "servants of the people" are the same, regardless of speeches, statements, statements, from their party coloring, all bring only harm to the people.

    Russia needs a total change of the ruling stratum, that’s the main task of the people.
  29. +4
    3 October 2015 09: 28
    It seems that the United Russia has a well-tuned system for the failure of bills that for some reason are not suitable for this party. And even the notorious "patriots"
    from the TV screens, they unanimously supported a common conspiracy, otherwise you can’t say it, you dare not
    .. against the wind. Voter, conclude for whom it is worth voting, for whom not.
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    1. +3
      3 October 2015 10: 41
      They are not chosen ones, but appointees. We have one chosen one.
  31. +3
    3 October 2015 09: 39
    How can we still produce such masterpieces of military equipment as the T-14, T-50, etc. if foreign auditors let out tentacles in the heart of our defense Deputies failed the bill to account!
  32. +1
    3 October 2015 09: 39
    Quote: akudr48
    Russia needs a total change of the ruling stratum, that’s the main task of the people.


    Or maybe it's time to call a sailor Zheleznyak?
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 10: 40
      What's the point? You were told that we already have a "God-chosen" nation in power. As in the 17th year, it seized power, and continues to hold, only the slogans are changed as needed. And Zheleznyak was just a naive pawn on the battlefield for the world revolution.
  33. +5
    3 October 2015 10: 05
    "Let's eat Russia" - that's how the people call the United Russia party.
  34. +9
    3 October 2015 10: 13
    One of the effective tools to combat corruption is the process of confiscation of property in favor of the state.
    The example provided in this article more than convincingly shows that it is impossible to accept an amendment to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation regarding confiscation, since the majority in the Duma is with United Russia. This majority blocks and inhibits any attempt to enact laws in the interests of the state.
    Look at the latest scandals related to the arrests of governors and heads of municipalities - they are all representatives of the EP.
    So dear colleagues, when you go to the polls - vote for any other party except United Russia and against the openly pro-Western Parnassos and Yabloko.
    As long as the majority in the Duma is for United Russia, our tariffs will continue to increase, the retirement age will increase, medicine and education will be disfigured, state property will be privatized, and clearly anti-people and anti-state policies will be pursued.
    Obviously, the idea of ​​creating the Popular Front movement at the GDP did not arise by chance. It is a pity that the NF is not represented in the Duma, so that according to the laws most important for the state, it would be possible to outweigh the "Edrosov" majority in a coalition (CPRF, SR, LDPR, NF).
    1. +6
      3 October 2015 10: 30
      ONF is the same vertical toy as edro. Just anticipating the legitimate antipathy of the people for edra, they came up with the same empty onf that would be promoted for the presidential election.
      1. +1
        3 October 2015 11: 17
        Quote: onix757
        ONF is the same vertical toy as edro. Just anticipating the legitimate antipathy of the people for edra, they came up with the same empty onf that would be promoted for the presidential election.

        In vain you are so respected.
        This new structure was conceived as a counterbalance to United Russia’s "unasvsyonishtyak" and in the case of the governors of Sakhalin and Komi, demonstrated that it’s not good at everything, since the initiative (information for thought, that is, operational development) came from below. To date, according to the information available in the public domain, more than 15 governors are in operational development, and another 8 are in pencil.
        It is bad that now those who have a well-developed "sense" of where to attach themselves, depending on the interest of the first person, are climbing into SF. For them, it's not about work, it's about membership. When their number exceeds those who actually work, then the effectiveness of NF will be reduced to zero.
        1. +6
          3 October 2015 17: 15
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Quote: onix757
          ONF is the same vertical toy as edro. Just anticipating the legitimate antipathy of the people for edra, they came up with the same empty onf that would be promoted for the presidential election.

          In vain you are so respected.
          This new structure is conceived as a counterbalance to the United Russia "unasvsionishtyak"
          ONF Central Headquarters

          Govorukhin Stanislav Sergeevich - EdRo

          Timofeeva Olga Viktorovna - EdRo

          Aitkulova Elvira Rinatovna - EdRo

          Batalina Olga Yurievna - EdRo

          Bogomaz Alexander Vasilievich - EdRo

          Bocharov Andrey Ivanovich - EdRo

          Vasiliev Alexander Nikolaevich - EdRo ........
          1. +4
            3 October 2015 23: 37
            ONF Central Headquarters:
            Govorukhin Stanislav Sergeevich - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE
            Timofeeva Olga Viktorovna - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE
            Aitkulova Elvira Rinatovna - EdRo - not in the list
            Batalina Olga Yurievna - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE
            Bogomaz Alexander Vasilievich - EdRo - not in the list
            Bocharov Andrey Ivanovich - EdRo - not in the list
            Vasiliev Alexander Nikolaevich - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE

            And here the same dug in ...

            ... then the effectiveness of the NF will be reduced to zero.
    2. +2
      3 October 2015 10: 32
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      So dear colleagues, when you go to the polls - vote for any other party except United Russia and against the openly pro-Western Parnassos and Yabloko.

      Explain to me the syroma lol
      How to choose the best manager? Well, by profession, this is understandable. Shoemakers can choose the best. Shipbuilders, too. Well and so on, by profession. And the manager?
      All the people choose. Does he have concepts in management?
      1. +2
        3 October 2015 10: 40
        Any manager starts with his own "political credo".
        1. +4
          3 October 2015 17: 20
          Any manager does not start with his creed, but with the length of his tongue
          1. 0
            4 October 2015 22: 29
            The vast majority of managers generally have no creed.
            And also, I dare to assure you, most managers do not understand what it is - a creed!
            Managers are all appointees, and appointees, as a rule, are people with psychology — which you please.
            People with slavish psychology do not have their own creed, especially political one.
      2. +2
        3 October 2015 10: 57
        Quote: Babr
        Does he have concepts in management?

        he hires those who understand and manage them
      3. +4
        3 October 2015 10: 59
        Quote: Babr
        How to choose the best manager? Well, by profession, this is understandable. Shoemakers can choose the best. Shipbuilders, too. Well and so on, by profession. And the manager?

        This is a good question, you cannot answer it briefly because the criteria of a "manager" in a "place" and in a "duma" do not correspond to the tasks and responsibilities. The manager in the "place" is responsible from planning and decision-making to implementation PERSONALLY ..... The "manager" in the Duma, unfortunately, is not responsible for anything, because personal responsibility is blurred in the "party interest". Perhaps the next comment ...
        Quote: onix757
        Any manager starts with his own "political credo".

        .... very close to the point.
        1. 0
          3 October 2015 11: 47
          Quote: rosarioagro
          he hires those who understand and manage them

          And how can people know that they are hiring exactly those who are needed?
          He is not a boom in control. The answer is, to choose, he must know at least the basics of management.
  35. +6
    3 October 2015 10: 33
    Unicorns have once again shown their faces. There was a bill of the same Fedorov on restricting the rights of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and subordinating him to the Russian government. 400 out of 89 MPs voted. The guarantor said: .. the Central Bank is pleased with the work ..
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 10: 48
      Maybe Fedorov should think about leaving the edra?
  36. +4
    3 October 2015 10: 35
    By and large, the question is not in the minor figures in the anti-popular government, but in those who support them there. The system needs to be changed .. In my opinion, there is no alternative to the Communist Party (read ideas), but this does not mean that you need to be too "constructive" with this government.
  37. +11
    3 October 2015 10: 48
    An article-detector, to identify either "ours", or the fifth column, on the site! In addition to Bolotnaya, I have not seen more representatives of the fifth column than at the meeting of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights under the President of the Russian Federation.

    The stubborn desire of the presenters, at all kinds of political shows, to amaze more than this shit is amazing, and at the same time - a journalist from the USA, Svidomo from Ukraine, a patriotic Pole, and a shit of local spill. Why should everyone more than half the time allotted to the program listen to this shit.
    1. +1
      4 October 2015 02: 59
      Vadim is not an indicator, in the first post I have almost 100 minuses and then pluses .. everything is not clear
      1. +1
        4 October 2015 13: 30
        And you consider the minuses as pluses! After all, this is the answer of those who disagree with your position, but without any arguments - for the company!
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  38. +4
    3 October 2015 10: 49
    - Describe the degree of your adequacy.
    “I don't take a selfie.”
    - You are accepted!
  39. +11
    3 October 2015 12: 17
    Basically, not new. But when like this "weighty, rough, visible", you get a little fucking.
    1. 0
      4 October 2015 13: 45
      Class! Meehan would have bitten her nails with envy .. laughing
  40. +3
    3 October 2015 12: 41
    According to statistics, it is clear that Dimon with his party EP; the pest or the gentlemen didn’t control what is happening, it’s a pity that there are so many Amer nits in Russia, it’s very unfortunate, and so openly, a nightmare, it’ll be necessary in the course of it, otherwise it will be too late, especially at the moment.
  41. +6
    3 October 2015 13: 26
    And I also wanted to say, forbid all parties, and other companies to use the word RUSSIA in the name. Let them be called democratic, oppositional, liberal
    and, conservative, but at least garbage. And then they use the name of the country in their slogans - "Strong country-United Russia!" (We have not far) and so on. crying for you !! negative hi PC-and watch how people voted, a lot of my supporters on the site, I successfully logged in! good
  42. +1
    3 October 2015 13: 37
    EP into the furnace! And it would not hurt the guarantor to explain the EP "sheep"that" is in the workplace "and" work "(that is, to defend the national interests of Russia) are not the same thing. I hope so!
  43. +8
    3 October 2015 13: 48
    I want to ask: Why is a worker who works at the enterprise, for absenteeism for a disrespectful reason, dismissed under the article, and deputies who do not attend meetings (i.e., work) are raised their salaries to 450 thousand rubles. per month?!!
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    1. +3
      3 October 2015 14: 04
      The article was written for that, so that the people knew the "heroes" of their land in person, so to speak. So that it's elementary not to vote for them next time ... Or stretch them in half with birches, on occasion Yes
  45. +8
    3 October 2015 14: 03
    There is nothing to add. My conclusion: get out of power! Stop making fools of us.
    1. +1
      3 October 2015 17: 19
      Quote: NordUral
      Stop making us fools
      However, the article did a very good job of this. smile
  46. +5
    3 October 2015 14: 27
    Oh, how to wash the king! Oh slandered the priest! This devilry is happening in the Duma, the tsar has nothing to do with it.
    Oh yes, the king of the popular front creates or some kind of crap. The tricky plan is put into action!

    In any incomprehensible situation - get up with your chest for the king and pray for the holy mnogohodovka.
  47. +1
    3 October 2015 14: 35
    If this article is not stuffed in anticipation of the election, then the work is done well.
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 15: 12
      Not stuffing. The author wrote under the impression of the seen video material.
  48. 0
    3 October 2015 16: 53
    recourse The main trouble of Russia.
  49. +1
    3 October 2015 17: 08
    Everything is beautiful of course and with pictures BUT it’s not entirely clear how financial audit can harm our companies because all of the above-mentioned companies annually provide reports on their financial activities and do not make any secrets from this.
    There is also such an opinion that if we involve our auditors, they will simply cover up corruption because all these companies are often pocket-sized.
    The law is of course needed but requires deep study in all directions.
    For example, I still remember how, during one of the periods, some experts came to our country and, under the pretext of helping, helped us to create such laws that the country fell apart to hell and everything was done with the same slogans ALL FOR THE COUNTRY !! so it’s better to let everyone take it slowly ... this is purely my opinion hi
  50. -2
    3 October 2015 17: 13
    And the people blame Putin. This is the grassroots work of the 5th column! Unknowingly, many support the "guardians" on the Internet, pouring down on Putin and Medvedev, accusing them of inattention to the needs of the people, of the country's poor economic component. But, as someone correctly noted, they cannot be in time for everything, and then there is also a 5 column standing in the same row with their legs substitutes. Oh, what scoundrels! It is necessary, absolutely necessary, a tough cleaning of the state apparatus!
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 18: 44
      Quote: viach
      And the people blame Putin

      Well no. Rafik is innocent (C).
  51. +4
    3 October 2015 17: 18
    Conclusions from this situation can be made different. Let's try to sketch some that come to mind:

    1. The epidemic of deputy flu.
    2. The deputies from the school bench skipped and still like to do it.
    3. The majority of those who did not vote, being an organized group of traitors, on orders from outside or in connection with their own interests, deliberately sabotaged the bill.

    The reader can supplement the list of conclusions himself.


    United Russia deputies are sensitively keeping their nose to the wind from the Kremlin. There is no wind - no need to vote. And they don’t care about the voter.
  52. +1
    3 October 2015 17: 55
    FEDERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE DUMA STAFF, CONCLUSION dated January 19, 2015 N 2.2-1/158 ON DRAFT FEDERAL LAW N 667782-6 "ON THE INTRODUCTION OF MEASURES FOR PROTECTING THE NATIONAL ECONOMY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATIONS AND LIMITATIONS OF ACTIVITIES OF LEGAL ENTITIES AND CITIZENS OF AGGRESSOR COUNTRIES ON THE TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION" (first reading)

    According to Article 1 of the draft Federal Law, an aggressor country is understood as “a foreign state (an association of foreign states) taking restrictive measures (sanctions) against the Russian Federation, citizens of the Russian Federation and Russian legal entities.” This provision contradicts the generally recognized principles and norms of international law, confirmed in Resolution 3314 (XXIX) of the UN General Assembly from December 14 to 1974, according to which aggression is “the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations". Thus, the use of restrictive measures (sanctions) does not relate to actions that can be qualified as an act of aggression in accordance with Article 3 of this Resolution.
    In addition, from an international legal point of view, the use of the terms “sanctions” and “country” is incorrect, as well as the proposal to understand “country” as an “union of foreign states.”
    Restriction of the rights of legal entities of individual states to provide services (prohibition of carrying out audit activities, providing legal and other consulting services) on the territory of the Russian Federation through the adoption of a Federal Law may qualify as a violation of the obligations of the Russian Federation under the General Agreement on Trade in Services (Appendix 1B), which is an integral part of the Agreement establishing the World Trade Organization of 1994 (Fedorov voted FOR joining the WTO).
    According to Article II of the General Agreement on Trade in Services, with respect to any measure covered by this Agreement, each WTO Member, including currently the Russian Federation, “shall accord to the services and suppliers of services of any other Member treatment no less favorable than that which it accords to similar services or service providers in any other country." "Services" include "any service in any sector, other than services supplied in the exercise of government functions." “Member measures” means measures taken by central, regional or local governments and authorities...” Exceptions to this rule are permitted but must be compatible with Article XIV of the General Agreement on Trade in Services.
    In accordance with Article 27 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969 years a State may not invoke the provisions of its internal law as a justification for its failure to comply contract. Consequently, the draft Federal Law being developed should not contradict the obligations assumed by the Russian Federation under international treaties.
    1. 0
      3 October 2015 17: 57
      The provision proposed in Article 2 of the bill supplements the conditions established in Article 27 of the Law of the Russian Federation of July 21, 1993 N 5485-1 “On State Secrets” for issuing a license to an organization to carry out work using information constituting a state secret, with the requirement that it not be among affiliated persons foreign citizens, persons with dual citizenship and stateless persons, does not comply with the provisions of part two of Article 21 of the said Law, which establishes that the access of persons with dual citizenship, stateless persons, as well as persons from among foreign citizens, emigrants and re-emigrants to state secrets carried out in the manner established by the Government of the Russian Federation, as well as part one of Article 22 of the said Law, which provides as a basis for refusing an official or citizen access to state secrets the permanent residence of himself and (or) his close relatives abroad and (or) registration of documents by the indicated persons for departure for permanent residence in other states. In addition, instead of the term “citizens of other states” it is necessary to use the term “foreign citizens”.
      We draw attention to the internal contradiction between Articles 1 and 4 of the draft. According to Article 1 of the draft, the listed organizations are prohibited from conducting audit activities, and according to Article 4 of the draft, only mandatory audits are prohibited.
      The concept of “affiliated persons” used in the text of the draft is not unified, and therefore it is unclear who is meant by such persons in Articles 1 - 3 of the draft
      .
      Amendments to Article 14 of Federal Law No. 5-FZ of April 2013, 44 “On the contract system in the field of procurement of goods, works, services to meet state and municipal needs” (hereinafter referred to as Federal Law No. 44-FZ) establish restrictions on the purchase of services, related to the implementation of audits, assessments, as well as legal services and other services related to consulting. Moreover, these services can only be purchased from Russian entities not affiliated with foreign entities. These changes do not correspond to the provisions of Article 14 of Federal Law No. 44-FZ, according to which the application of national treatment is determined when customers make purchases, including services provided by foreign entities, and not a ban on such purchases (Fedorov voted FOR this law - http://vote.duma.gov.ru/vote/77377). In addition, the proposed changes require clarification of the concept of “services related to auditing, assessment”, the use of which can lead to ambiguous interpretation in law enforcement practice, as well as the concept of “legal services and other services related to consulting” (legal services can be independent type of service). At the same time, Part 3 of Article 1 of the draft uses a different concept “legal and other consulting services”.

      Head of Department
      M.V.DEMENKOV

      http://base.consultant.ru/cons/cgi/online.cgi?req=doc;base=PRJ;n=134078;fld=134;
      from = 125578-15; rnd = 0.9748842404223979
    2. 0
      5 October 2015 08: 57
      This means that we need to find other formulations. There is a hybrid war going on against us. In such circumstances, referring to treaties with those countries that decided to do away with us is somehow inadequate. I understand that the analogy is strained, but this is tantamount to insisting in December 1941 on the implementation of the Non-Aggression Pact. On the night of the 22nd everything went wrong. But in December... So it is here. It’s sad that all these “Fedorovs who have seen the light” were warned. Where was his conscience when he was in favor of joining the WTO? Or is something else governing his lawmaking? Loot?
      1. 0
        5 October 2015 16: 47
        Quote: unwillingly
        So, we need to find other formulations
        If the goal was to pass the bill, and not PR, then there would be nothing to undermine.

        There is a hybrid war against us
        Who are “us” against, how does this manifest itself, and why do you use a stupid Western term?

        with those countries that decided to end us somehow inadequately
        Did the Presidential Press Secretary go to partisan Italy during his honeymoon? smile
        You are being scammed, but you are being fooled.

        Where was his conscience when he was in favor of joining the WTO?
        In the same place as now.
  53. +2
    3 October 2015 18: 17
    And why be surprised by one there...Gambursky.
  54. +2
    3 October 2015 18: 40
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2j_-Q1nuQ

    Totally agree
  55. +3
    3 October 2015 18: 44
    http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/10/03/absurd/ - Вот кто главная пятая колонна ( не лента ру конечно, а Госдума), пока они так работают, население России все больше и больше озлобляется.
  56. +4
    3 October 2015 19: 03
    The demonstrated betrayal of the country’s interests at the State Duma level is simply shocking.
    I looked at the list of those who voted on sovereignty, but at the moment, only the communists are concerned about the survival of the country.
    Trades in the interests of the United States country.
    According to the comments: that’s right, you need to go to elections, you can’t participate in carousels (but you can’t defeat this irresponsibility, only stupid people do that).
    But I very closely followed the appearance of the final results of the elections in the current State Duma - the RESULTS WERE FRAUGED, the votes for the ED that were not enough for the majority in the State Duma were added, obviously at the expense of those who did not vote. The situation turned out like this: the Communist Party of the Russian Federation had a higher percentage (but not a majority), United Russia did not have an absolute majority, and then the scoreboard began to show only percentage values ​​- those that were needed to get the desired result - the wizard tried.
    1. +4
      3 October 2015 20: 50
      Since I don’t know whose disadvantage, I’ll try to explain my position.
      The article convincingly shows how a necessary and important bill was failed.
      The fact that legally the bill was “crude” is not a basis for its rejection; it certainly had to be finalized; the issue of protecting the interests of the country is at stake. The ruling United Russia party failed the project, while proving complete disregard for the fate of the country - they didn’t even argue their point of view. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation and individual members of the LDPR and SR showed partiality. Such well-known deputies as Pushkov, Zheleznyak and others showed obvious disdain, which unpleasantly struck me. As for the elections to the current State Duma, I really carefully watched the pictures of the results board on TV, and even wrote something down. And the highlighted phrase in the commentary was taken from my own observations; later these points were discussed on some sites, their data did not contradict my observations. I can understand that in order to quickly carry out the necessary government decisions, it was necessary for the pro-government party to have a majority of votes, but as a result it turned out that United Russia is not a ruling party of patriots defending the interests of the state, but rather a pocket cabal. And since I treat Russia with love and respect, I consider it necessary to express my point of view on the issue of state sovereignty.
      1. +1
        4 October 2015 01: 46
        Quote: olimpiada15
        The ruling United Russia party failed the project,proving complete disregard to the fate of the country
        Such well-known deputies as Pushkov, Zheleznyak and others showed obvious disdain, which made me unpleasantly struck
        Wake up already.

        http://vote.duma.gov.ru/vote/69025
  57. +2
    3 October 2015 19: 12
    Until there is a party with clear goals, without “friends”, “partners” and “outstanding finance ministers”, any elections are meaningless.... In the State Duma, even good people play the role of jesters and buffoons.
  58. GDV
    +7
    3 October 2015 19: 19
    Jewish family, little son Monya comes home from school and declares to his father, “I don’t want to be a Jew.”
    Father - But how? You are the son of a hereditary Jew, no way.
    Son, I’m tired of everyone just making fun of Jew, Jew, I’m not a Jew, I’m Russian.
    Father - ok.
    The time is approaching dinner, the whole large Jewish family sits down to eat, little Monya also sits down at the table, which is bursting with food.
    The father says: “Stop son, you are no longer a Jew and will eat separately.” He points to a small table on which there is a glass of water and a piece of bread.
    Monya sits down at the table and begins to sluggishly chew bread, drinking water.
    Father: -Well, how do you feel about not being a Jew, son?
    Monya: - I’m not a Jew for half an hour, but I already hate you Jews.
    1. +3
      3 October 2015 19: 56
      Quote: GDV
      I’m not a Jew for half an hour, and I already hate you Jews.


      It was a little different:
      Gevolt! I've only been a Gus for half an hour - and I've already gotten so hot from these assholes!
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  59. +2
    3 October 2015 19: 53
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    "Do not be afraid of criminals, be afraid of the indifferent - it is with their tacit consent that crimes occur" Julius Fucik


    Regarding the indifferent centuries, the Lord himself said 19 earlier, and much more harshly:
    I know your affairs; you are neither cold nor hot; Oh, that you were cold or hot! But because you are warm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew you out of My mouth (Rev. 3:15,16).
    The Synodal translation is very softened - in a more accurate translation it was not “I will spew out”, but “I'll vomit" - i.e. Indifferent people simply make the Lord sick!
  60. -3
    3 October 2015 21: 16
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: Born in the USSR
    And it would happen that he did not come 3 times and the mandate to the table is free and go for a walk.

    While the leader of the EP is fighting the world's evil, the rest skip school. They think that they will be left in the second year.
    But in the USSR such a deputy could be recalled, now party lists. sad

    Do you really think that under the USSR they didn’t steal after Stalin’s death???? Well, remind me, was it recalled there at least once?? But there were exactly the same number of corruption cases as now, only they often didn’t reach the courts and all this lasted forever until 2000.
    Now at least they have started planting...
  61. +1
    3 October 2015 21: 28
    This is an example that forces United Russia to turn towards the interests of the Country and the People.
    1. +4
      3 October 2015 21: 44
      Which side should I turn?
  62. 0
    3 October 2015 21: 43
    And that, judging by the laws, is a very real betrayal. Education, medicine,... Laws supporting the country are passed only under presidential supervision.
    1. +4
      3 October 2015 22: 17
      Quote: Const
      And that, judging by the laws, is a very real betrayal. Education, medicine, .

      And who signed these laws, after which they came into force? Is it really Obama? Or maybe Poroshenko.
      Quote: Const
      . Laws supporting the country are passed only under presidential supervision.

      For example?
  63. +2
    3 October 2015 23: 33
    To the author bold +
    Great list, I’ll even keep it for myself.
    1. +2
      3 October 2015 23: 45
      The list is excellent, but the personalities... well, I won’t break the rules of the site.
      1. +1
        4 October 2015 00: 01
        only, here, personalities...,

        I'll come back tomorrow to look at the article's rating. bully
  64. 0
    4 October 2015 02: 05
    I think if the article had provided a link to the State Duma website with the results of voting on this particular bill, the article would have been much more credible. And so, alas, there is no faith. Evgeniy Alekseevich sometimes sins by juggling facts in his favor. There is a clear surge of guano towards the EP. I am not a supporter of this party, just like any other. They differ from each other only in the sequence of letters in the party programs, but in essence - nothing. Such articles should be presented with factual material, and not with pretty pictures.
    1. +1
      4 October 2015 12: 27
      http://vote.duma.gov.ru/vote/90940
      The author placed the links in the article in 2 places; it is unknown why they do not open.
  65. 0
    4 October 2015 15: 07
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Only a large voter turnout was able to overcome the administrative resources and pressure on voters

    Can you tell me more about pressure on voters, please?
  66. 0
    4 October 2015 15: 37
    Quote: RUS69
    Everything is beautiful of course and with pictures BUT it’s not entirely clear how financial audit can harm our companies because all of the above-mentioned companies annually provide reports on their financial activities and do not make any secrets from this.

    You might also ask those who gave hundreds of pluses, did they read the text of the law? After the participation of the CPR communists in the same events with carrion and white-ribbon idiots, blind trust in them is fraught.

    “We won’t be afraid to at least roughly outline a circle of specific names and surnames” - yes, don’t be afraid, please list by name the functionaries of the Communist Party of Russia who participated in rallies and marches of neoliberals and stood at the stands with Nemtsov and Navalny, please.
  67. 0
    4 October 2015 19: 59
    Quote: Rarog
    Quote: Babr
    And God's chosen one.


    In quotes, take "God's chosen", they are Satanists. With them, Jesus fought at their hands and died (in fact).

    There is just no need to fantasize and promote fascism. Jesus fought against ignorance, hypocrisy and rottenness among the people and the priesthood of that time, the latter were very unhappy with this.
  68. 0
    4 October 2015 20: 02
    I never doubted that United Russia (the ruling elite) are a fifth column, like any other fans of the liberals. Vote for my party “Party of Pensioners for Justice” - there are still few of us, but we have big goals, and there are more than 40 million pensioners in Russia.
  69. +2
    5 October 2015 05: 19
    Dvorkovich will most likely be the next prime minister - this is a victory for Zionism in a single country. A boy who barely knows how to move pawns and has never led at least a brigade will rule a country the size of 1/6 of the landmass. Yes, and the LADY was the same, and to this day he is thrilled by the thought that he rules such a giant. We need another Putin for domestic politics. But this is impossible. Therefore, nothing will change radically within the country; there is no need to even dream about it. Then we were building a bright communist future, now we are building a bright capitalist one, and all for several hundred Jewish families. And the outback of Russia has been dying out and will continue to die out.
  70. 0
    5 October 2015 08: 28
    Great article! Necessary and timely!
    And now we should pay attention to those morally depraved people who elected these scoundrels.
    I hope that in the next elections these scum of society will not get into the State Duma!
    At the very least, we will closely monitor this, and if even one who ignored the vote tries to run again, let him know that this number will not pass!
  71. +1
    5 October 2015 08: 47
    I’ll repeat it 1001 times - without 1937 there wouldn’t have been 1945. That’s it. The army can fight, but if everything is handed over wholesale from the inside and from above, then... Unfortunately, the topic of the 5th column has not been disclosed in the government, although everything is much clearer with the personalities there. And, yes, more. Just as he “didn’t vote” so EP. Although the term party of swindlers and thieves belongs to the swindler and anal thief himself, it is still a vital term. The CPSU has already recovered. What result will EP lead us to?
  72. 0
    5 October 2015 12: 38
    And this is the list of the fifth column. Someone didn’t vote, and the nationalization project of the Central Bank was also thwarted
  73. 0
    12 October 2015 09: 08
    The United Russia Party, with its vote, nullified all the successes of the country and the president in foreign policy... A disgrace!