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"Fifth column". Names and surnames?

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As we all see and hear, now a lot of attention in the press is paid to the issues of Syria and Ukraine. However, we should not forget that for the Russians in the first place are the events taking place in Russia. They are vital and paramount. And here in some areas there is a very “delicate” bypass of some topics and issues.


The most important of these questions - the survival of the country and the Russians in general - can be safely attributed to the issue of sovereignty.

It’s not a secret for people who listen and think for a long time that the so-called “fifth column” operates in the country - an extremely numerous “landing” of our “partners”, thrown up and raised at all levels of government since 90's. However, often all these "columns" have some abstract and faceless image, engaged in the same abstract sabotage and sabotage.

Do not be afraid to at least roughly outline the circle of specific names and surnames.

An elementary litmus test of conclusions with specific individuals can again serve as a specific example of an attempt to defend the interests of a country.

For example, 9 June 2015. Discussion of the bill "On the introduction of measures to protect the national economy of the Russian Federation and limit the activities of legal entities and citizens of the aggressor countries in the Russian Federation" (No. 667782-6) in the State Duma of the Russian Federation. The bill was introduced by deputies Katasonov S.M., Romanov A.V., Fedorov E.A.

On the podium of the State Duma - Yevgeny Alekseyevich Fedorov, known for his harsh statements about groups of people who are clearly working to the detriment of the country. The figure of the deputy Fedorov can be treated differently, but let's look at the essence of the proposed proposal and conclusions that can be drawn in relation to persons who are not abstract.

The essence of the introduced law number 667782-6: The authors of the bill are primarily concerned with the fact that foreign organizations are currently conducting an audit of most strategic enterprises in Russia (examples: Central Bank, UAC, Uralvagonzavod, VTB, Vnesheconombank, Rosselkhozbank, Transneft, Gazprom Neft, Ministry of Finance, FAS, Rosfinnadzor, Ministry of Transport, Ministry of Housing and Communal Services, Ministry of Economic Development , Ministry of Industry and Trade, Federal Property Management Agency, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Sports, etc., etc.). In their opinion, access to such information threatens the interests of the country, and the participation of such organizations in the audit is detrimental to Russian audit firms. Also, according to the authors of the bill, given the aggressive and non-partner behavior of a number of states that have declared sanctions against Russia, the definition of “aggressor country” should be introduced into the law, the list of which will be approved by the Russian government.

As they say, the picture is worth a thousand words. I suggest the reader not to be lazy and get acquainted with the video recording of both the discussion process and the result ...



Results.

The bill, clearly aimed at protecting the interests of the country, was shamefully failed. Not rejected, not sent back for revision (perhaps, from the point of view of specialists, the amendments could indeed have taken place), namely, SOTATED and FAILED.

Let's get acquainted with the participants of the action.



As seen in the picture pages of the bill of the official site of the State Duma, the most interesting point of this schedule is the item “Did not vote”, despite the fact that “For” (179 against 3 deputies) was voted by an absolute majority of those who nevertheless decided to vote. 268 deputies for some reasons did not bring their finger to the voting button, thereby disrupting further discussion of this law. The same deputy Karpov (a chess and philatelist in combination, the cost of which the collection of stamps, according to some estimates, is at least 13 million euros), who opposed Fedorov at the same meeting of the State Duma, also from the “did not vote” number ... Inevitably, the question arises - why? Are all 268 people (99,2% of United Russia and various parts of other parties) suddenly and abruptly for valid reasons missing in the hall? .. How can it be that 268 people who are charged with making fateful decisions of the country simply do not fulfill their duties ?

The only advantage of all that happened is that the voting was open and we have the opportunity to see those “not voted” as they are.

Conclusions.

Conclusions from this situation can be made different. Let's try to sketch some that come to mind:

1. The epidemic of deputy flu.
2. The deputies from the school bench skipped and still like to do it.
3. The majority of those who did not vote, being an organized group of traitors, on orders from outside or in connection with their own interests, deliberately sabotaged the bill.

The reader can add to the list of conclusions himself.

Who is to blame and what to do?

It is clear that openly criminal actions cannot have an apology, and many of this episode is embittered by the authorities. But in search of an answer to the eternal questions, would you turn to the mirror? After all, perhaps, it is the indifference of a citizen of Russia to the affairs of the state, passivity, unwillingness to understand personalities in any regular local elections and is a brush of such sketches? We place many hopes on the president, but he is by no means all-powerful. Without us, active citizens of Russia, he really can’t do anything. After all, indifferently omitting the newsletter and defying the statements about the unwillingness to understand the “varieties of guano”, we choose the whole “column” first of all.

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  1. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 05: 18 New
    -81
    What a beautiful beginning .. I thought at last someone would explain to the dark, they would confirm my suspicions, but it all came down to dismantling in the Duma, and in general Karpov, who was closer to the communists rather than to the fifth column, to the firebox article
    1. Babr
      Babr 3 October 2015 06: 12 New
      121
      I don’t even know which column to classify myself with. By the fifth? Tenth?
      But I know one thing.
      "Modern democracy is not a defense of the interests of the majority.
      This is a defense of the exclusive interests of the Jews from the majority.
      They are not among the people, but in the government, spit in any direction, you will not miss.
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 3 October 2015 06: 59 New
        91
        And so all bills that defend the interests of the people, the interests of Russia itself, fail.
        The ruling liberal party "United Russia" has an absolute majority of votes in the State Duma, thanks to the nonsense of the majority of the people who do not want to go to the polls, the manipulation of power by electoral technologies, up to the direct falsification of the results of the elections themselves.

        The fact that the United States has control over the work of strategic enterprises and state authorities, pursues a policy of "self-destruction" of Russia through them, is visible to almost everyone who wants to analyze at least a little the ongoing political events in Russia.
        The information of E. Fedorov, in the rejected bill, is only a clear confirmation of this not sovereign position of Russia. The Fifth Column is operating in Russia. Moreover, it acts in the highest echelons of power in Russia.
        And the list of members of this column is not complete, here you need to include almost the entire Government of the Russian Federation, the leadership of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the leadership of many ministries of the Russian Federation, pursuing a policy of subordination of their departments to US agents.
        1. Straight
          Straight 3 October 2015 09: 21 New
          33
          And you will attend the election as an observer, this is available to anyone. Not only voters do not care, but these “voters” actively participate in “roundabouts”, drive around in polls with electoral patrons and vote on absentee ballots for stealing power. And then, well aware of the whole degree of humiliation (both those who voted and those who "carousel" / these especially, since their superiors literally raped /) sit and are silent in a rag. But that’s not all - those who actively protest are called "gandons", despite the fact that people for the Crimea and the Donbass and for the "landing" of thieves all interfere with the "liberals" in one heap!
          1. delvin-fil
            delvin-fil 3 October 2015 20: 46 New
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            And you will attend the election as an observer

            It was once.
            According to estimates by the EC, the UR gained 3rd place (less than 25%) after the Communist Party (1) and LDPR (2), and on Tuesday, two days after the Duma elections (last), local media announced the results of the vote (details were reported by the numbers of PS) on which Indisputably won the EP. In particular, on the site where I was an observer, it is already 96% “FOR”!
            HOW?
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 3 October 2015 21: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: Direct
            And you will attend the election as an observer, this is available to anyone

            To become an observer, you must pre-register as an observer. If you sit in a polling station for a long time, you will first be asked if you feel ill, then they will politely ask you to leave, you won’t leave, they will bring a policeman on duty, you will resist, you will arrive with an assault rifle, they will be taken to the jail, and then the court and the term for trying to disrupt the voting process.
            Therefore, I do not recommend such experiments.
        2. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 10: 16 New
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          Quote: vladimirZ
          The ruling liberal party "United Russia" has an absolute majority of votes in the State Duma, thanks to the nonsense of the majority of the people who do not want to go to the polls, the manipulation of power by electoral technologies, up to the direct falsification of the results of the elections themselves.


          So I think, Dear vladimirZ, that we must go to the polls next year and vote with our head, and not with another place. The more we come, the less chance there will be of a “leading and directing" chance of falsification.

          Somehow I think so, and I hope for something else. hi
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 3 October 2015 10: 43 New
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            Your right decision. It is imperative to go to the polls, then we will win.
            Here is a current example for you. In the Irkutsk region, in the second round of voting between the governor and the EP nominee - Eroshenko, the victory was won by the opposition representative - the representative of the Communist Party, Sergey Levchenko.
            And Levchenko won because the turnout was 40%, people outraged by the work of businessman-governor Eroshchenko.
            Only a large turnout was able to overcome that administrative resource, then the pressure on the voters, the fraud that the authorities used in these elections.
            The administrative resource was not enough for the authorities to overcome the mood of the people in the election of a new government in the region.
            Only election activity will give the people a chance to change their lives. Maidans, performances at Bolotnaya and other directed "revolutions" can bring only chaos and blood.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 3 October 2015 14: 44 New
              +4
              Here is a lively and inspiring example.
              1. Babr
                Babr 3 October 2015 15: 32 New
                +7
                Quote: NordUral
                Here is a lively and inspiring example.

                And to my "shame" I did not go to the polls.
                When I was in office, I voted for this ... God forbid memory, karate-communist Romanov. He passed (not without my participation) and immediately went over to EP.
                It turns out I helped not the Communist Party and the EP? request
              2. Karabin
                Karabin 3 October 2015 17: 28 New
                +9
                Quote: NordUral
                Here is a lively and inspiring example.

                I do not see anything inspiring. This will not change the situation. One governor not from EP will not be able to do anything, just like the Communist Party faction in the Duma. Yes, they can speak, vote, rally, but they can not influence the adoption of key decisions. The system, led by Putin, will not allow it until it decays.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 3 October 2015 23: 23 New
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                  Karabin (1)
                  The system, led by Putin, will not allow it until it decays.
                  A very interesting statement!
                  The “system led by Putin” itself doesn’t really decompose itself - it needs to be helped to decompose! The question is how?
                  For example, the Anatoly Sobchak in my time admitted that he joined the Communist Party in order to decompose her inside! Rђ RІRѕS, WHO (!) Helped Sobchak to be a member of the CPSU? WHO and WHO were exactly the people who recommended fool to accept him in the party?
                  Aftermath coalition of liberal Sobchak we still disentangle!
                2. NordUral
                  NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 21 New
                  +1
                  It all depends on how we vote and how many of us will vote. But you don’t have to take a lot of courage on the clave.
            2. Genur
              Genur 3 October 2015 14: 55 New
              +7
              The list is too long, but knowing and remembering some of the names of the patriots, you can give a price to the “abstaining”. Traitors - to the answer ...
            3. SALLAK
              SALLAK 3 October 2015 15: 55 New
              +2
              They threw a bone, that’s all ... Eroshchenko was too lit up, so they decided to bang two birds with one stone. People were satisfied with the opposition, but still retained control. The Communist Party is an opposition-controlled ... So no need to invent ...
            4. asher
              asher 3 October 2015 17: 26 New
              +7
              I rarely participate in local elections, because I believe that our governors, under the current state-capitalist system (even if they are three times Marxists, communists and others), do little to decide. Moreover, in the first round of elections, as in the whole of Russia, we in the Irkutsk region had one pro-government and a lot of opposition parties. But in the second round, when it was decided who was for the whites and who was for the reds, many people went to vote, and so did I. Moreover, the information dirt was outraged, which diligently poured on the Communists - as a result, many did not vote for the Communists, but against the government.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 29 New
                +2
                The country is at a crossroads, something is happening upstairs. And this “something” people, that is, we must give an impetus to the movement in the direction necessary for the people. And this is a constitutional change in the political system, nationalization and socialization of the country. Moreover, it will not necessarily be socialism, why, we are quite satisfied with state capitalism with some presence of market relations, but only in the areas of consumption (group B, for those who still remember).
                And a fierce fight against corruption. Then we will win and stand, even if the whole world stands against us (and this is unrealistic and is necessary only to a few Anglo-Saxon countries, and even that only to their top).
            5. voffchik7691
              voffchik7691 3 October 2015 21: 13 New
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              I agree with you, but here is an example from life:
              In Yaroslavl, the mayor was elected not a millionaire from EP, but the one who was considered an alternative to him - Urlashov. Less than a year later he was imprisoned with the wording: "attempted bribe-taking!" Nobody caught hands, nobody presented money! And by the way, this bribe-taker lived in an ordinary residential building in a dvushka with a 17-year-old daughter and an old mother! 2 years later, Urlashov is still under investigation and is not sitting in a 13-room palace under "house arrest", but in a pre-trial detention center. And this one from the harem of Serdyukov (Vasiliev) grabbed 6 billion and after 34 days to freedom with a “clear conscience!” And it’s not the fact that she was there! Remember how many days they looked for her to show the press?
              So we will not be happy for the Irkutsk citizens, God forbid that they would not concoct a business either!
              I always go to the polls, but this time I didn’t go - they simply did not bring us an invitation. Because the elections were not in all districts. So my vote, I think, was attributed to candidates from EP.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 33 New
                +5
                That's what I’m saying, the people should get up from the sofas and clean their ears from liberal-patriotic noodles. It’s time to understand that the country will no longer have another chance. We will leave, those who are from the USSR, and young people hang lies on the ears about the Soviet Union, about its alleged crime (we are looking at what is happening on the outskirts) and everything will not become our country. That's why, for the sake of our children and grandchildren with great-grandchildren need to wake up.
                1. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 4 October 2015 22: 48 New
                  -5
                  Quote: NordUral
                  We will leave, those who are from the USSR, and young people hang lies on the ears about the Soviet Union, about its alleged crime (we are looking at what is happening on the outskirts) and everything will not become our country
                  I’m sure that without the old-time Compromisers, who at first swept the Union, and now push into the worst form of socio-economic relations - state capitalism, the youth will be better.

                  So go away as quickly as possible - tablecloth road.
          2. Yu-81
            Yu-81 3 October 2015 11: 43 New
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            Tell me, for whom to vote? Maybe I don’t understand something, but point me at the party whose members really work for the good of my Motherland?
            In my opinion, all this Caudle in the Duma is simply a farce and no more.
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 3 October 2015 13: 28 New
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              Tell me, for whom to vote? Maybe I don’t understand something, but point me at the party whose members really work for the good of my Motherland?
              - Yu-81 (1)

              And you look WHO VOTED for the bill of E. Fedorov, strengthening the sovereignty of Russia. Which parties, for the most part, want changes towards Russia's sovereignty and social justice?
              Communist Party, individual members of the Liberal Democratic Party and SprRossii. It is for them that we must vote, to whom your soul lies, whose political views are closest to you.
              To begin with, it is necessary to deprive the liberal party "United Russia" of an absolute majority that blocks the consideration of any issues in favor of the people, and as we see it in favor of sovereignty, and even better than a simple majority, to exclude any dominance of "United Russia" in the State Duma.
              1. MrK
                MrK 3 October 2015 19: 09 New
                +4
                Quote: vladimirZ
                First you need to deprive the liberal party "United Russia" of an absolute majority, blocking the consideration of any issues in favor of the people

                A good thought, Vladimir. But you missed one important thing. In elections, you vote not for a specific deputy, but for a party. And who will be included in the party’s deputy list is a big question and a big money question.
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 4 October 2015 05: 48 New
                  +2
                  You missed one important thing. In elections, you vote not for a specific deputy, but for a party.
                  - Mrark (4)

                  So it is necessary to vote for the party, for ideology, which the party reflects. And who will be there in the party, the second thing.
                  In my practice of voting in elections, I do not bother with the specific names of the candidates. I look at which party is one of them, and I vote for "my own" party, which I consider closest to me, according to my political convictions of social justice - the Communist Party.
                  And in no case do not vote for "independent" candidates, as a rule, they are opportunists who play in protest to everything and everyone, and who do not know how to work for society and the state.
              2. Weyland
                Weyland 3 October 2015 19: 39 New
                0
                Quote: vladimirZ
                individual members of the LDPR and SprRussia


                84% liberal democrats and 64% fair Russians (includingleaders both of these parties) - is this, in your opinion, "separate members"?what
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              4. NordUral
                NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 37 New
                0
                I just wrote about this.
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 3 October 2015 14: 45 New
              +4
              Look at the picture on the right and it will become clear to you, albeit with reservations. But the main thing is to begin the purification of power from election to election. God will give and purify without Maidan and pitchfork.
            3. NordUral
              NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 36 New
              0
              This is the main question and the most painful. Yes, Zyuganov, this is a whistle, but there are young communists. There are honest people in Just Russia and the Liberal Democratic Party, one should not look at one party, but at a bloc of parties and push them to unite when nominating candidates. And to choose from them the most worthy. And gradually, from election to election, the husk is eliminated. And there are a lot of good leaders among the people, you just have to make out them.
          3. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 12: 45 New
            +6
            Don’t even hope Volodya, the pensioners-pensioners will come and vote as they should, the rest of Churov will be polished ..
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 3 October 2015 15: 00 New
              +5
              And the weakest vote for the right and explain to the grandmothers?
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 02: 25 New
                +1
                Yes, not weak, but simply pointless ..
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 39 New
                  +1
                  I will say, as I think, our silence is a crime against the future.
          4. NordUral
            NordUral 3 October 2015 14: 43 New
            +2
            Yes, vote, and thinking hard for whom. And this and similar voting lists should be placed on the polling stations.
          5. Old warrior
            Old warrior 3 October 2015 17: 58 New
            +1
            With a sigh: a naive Chukchi young man ... recourse
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 4 October 2015 21: 49 New
              +1
              I'm far from naive. Just lazy and cowardly, like most of us. What are the leaders of EP hoping for.
          6. Old warrior
            Old warrior 3 October 2015 17: 58 New
            0
            With a sigh: a naive Chukchi young man ... recourse
          7. MrK
            MrK 3 October 2015 18: 57 New
            +9
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            The more we come, the less chance there will be of a “leading and directing" chance of falsification.

            Dear Vladimir 1964. Regarding the chances of falsification - you are right. But in the modern version of democracy, he wins. who organizes the elections and votes. This is an objective law. Write down as a keepsake so you don’t accidentally forget it.
            Not a single bourgeois party, in power, will peacefully surrender this power. And those who hope to gain power through elections act like naive children. Relieve blinkers from the eyes.
            They rig the election anyway. Any, in the meanest way.
            Remember 1917 year, 1993 year. What is the peaceful transition from one form of power to another? Or drunk
            EBN peacefully shot the Supreme Council?
            Please note, I do not call for rebellion. Riot is always crushed.
        3. varov14
          varov14 3 October 2015 12: 29 New
          14
          Maybe we have the FSB’s main fifth column, the Tsereushny branch, otherwise the liquidation would have started the operation long ago. They throw the country, they chew snot, they are some kind of nonsense.
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 12: 47 New
            +4
            Everything is fine with the FSB, only she is a dog on a chain in the first place, and secondly, who has her master and who feeds her?
        4. Skif83
          Skif83 3 October 2015 14: 19 New
          10
          All right. BUT ... people vote for them! We need to work with the people, and not a single party really works, and it’s not worth talking about EP ...
          And it touches me when the grandmothers are discussing with each other, he once heard: “Well, Nemtsov (so that the pan under him never cools down) is Russian! These are the “Russians” they choose.
          And then you need to understand that the GDP either does not have such strength as it declares, or it is with the “fifth column”. Otherwise, his talk with the liberal government is not explained.
          1. MrK
            MrK 3 October 2015 19: 16 New
            +8
            Quote: Skif83
            You need to work with the people

            That is right. I am afraid that the people will understand the essence of the sun only when they fly away to the West. And there, the question - what happened to Russia, simply answers - She drowned. As he replied to the United States about the torpedo by the Americans, the KURSK nuclear submarine.
          2. evfrat
            evfrat 4 October 2015 15: 30 New
            +5
            I fully support. The people are the ones who give these "comrades" the opportunity to draw 99% in any election. The trouble is that when it smells, so seriously, fried, you will not see it in this EdR. They will quickly blow away in the direction where the sun sets. There they have a rookery, there they are sweet. And the people, in their opinion, didn’t deserve another: they vote, and so do it right. All sorts of retirees are stupid, idiotic youth who do not need anything, but scarecrows - liberal traitors. That's the whole people. So, do not expect anything good from this party. They, as one saint said, are neither hot nor cold. They are warm.
            (like shit - author's comment)
        5. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 3 October 2015 14: 37 New
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          A very interesting article. Here the questions are not only to the position of each deputy, but simply to professionalism. Not to vote on such a scale is possible only by order, it turns out that these gentlemen are not deputies, but ordinary obedient extras.
          Now we can say that Parliament is EP, and EP is a bunch of conjuncturers - businessmen, athletes and overt careerists, for whom membership in EP is the solution to their selfish tasks. Not a party, but a bunch, because at the first alarming calls all these people will rush from the party lists anywhere. You can recall a lot of negative things about the CPSU, but it was a party. Now I’m not observing anything similar.
          There is only one conclusion - go to the polls. If the turnout is 30-40%, as it is now, then what wonders at such a composition of the Parliament. 10% can be juggled, but 60% will not work.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 3 October 2015 15: 03 New
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            Correctly! It's all about our laziness and cowardice. From this year I will vote. Before that, I protested on the couch without voting. So they protested. What does these EPs use everything, even our patriotic impulses.
          2. Amurets
            Amurets 3 October 2015 15: 33 New
            +4
            Reserve officer. And you carefully look at the list of deputies of the State Duma and compare. What happens. Most, the same people, only this convocation they represented one party, the next convocation another. Leaving either those who did not please, or for natural reasons.
          3. Karabin
            Karabin 3 October 2015 17: 40 New
            +7
            Quote: Stock Officer
            Now we can say that Parliament is EP, and EP is a bunch of conjuncturers - businessmen, athletes and overt careerists, for whom membership in EP is the solution to their selfish tasks. Not a party, but a bunch,

            There is another opinion. Secretary of the United Russia General Council Sergei Neverov called the meeting between Putin and Medvedev with the party activist “one of the main venues” of the three-day forum. “At the end and at the beginning of the meeting, Vladimir Putin said that United Russia is a state people's party that addresses issues that concern our citizens. It was a frank, interesting discussion, ”said Neverov.
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            2. voffchik7691
              voffchik7691 3 October 2015 21: 22 New
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              "United Russia" - the state people's party ...
              Just need to finish the phrase: the party of the people who live on the ruble!
          4. 23 region
            23 region 3 October 2015 17: 51 New
            +4
            Why be surprised? - Party discipline!
            1. Colonel
              Colonel 3 October 2015 19: 00 New
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              Quote: 23 region
              Party discipline!

              Yeah, democratic centralism. Decryption needed? wassat
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        6. delvin-fil
          delvin-fil 3 October 2015 20: 38 New
          0
          Exactly!
          Central Bank said there will be inflation and She will be - so said the Central Bank!
          http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/03/highinflation/
      2. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 3 October 2015 08: 39 New
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        The question is, in which media was the publication on this subject, which
        the television channel posted this paddock to the nationwide discussion, the answer was nowhere and in which media did not go. As for the fifth column, you don’t have to go far, the entire government bloc headed by Medvedev is the backbone of this scum.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 3 October 2015 09: 51 New
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          As for the fifth column, you don’t have to go far, the whole government bloc headed by Medvedev is ...
          - go21zd45few

          The question “Why doesn’t Putin remove Medvedev, the other very odious government ministers?” Marked by the “fifth column” stamp, probably has many answers.
          One of them was expressed by Nikolai Starikov after 12 minutes of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAIPoGthY9o
          There is an opinion of V. Katasonov, after 5 minutes of video,
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2j_-Q1nuQ
          It’s not entirely possible to agree with them, but a lot of interesting things.
          There are other opinions, but they all speak only about one thing: Russia is not a completely sovereign state, unfortunately, it is controlled by the United States through hidden levers, which was once again confirmed by information from E. Fedorov.
          Look, it’s very useful for understanding the political essence of the Russian authorities.
          1. dmb
            dmb 3 October 2015 18: 33 New
            +5
            You can find out, but why is this honest Mr. Fedorov and others like him continue to be in this rascal party? Apparently trying to blow up from the inside. True, it strongly resembles the "tracking" of theft by Ivanov in GLONASS.
        2. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 3 October 2015 09: 58 New
          -6
          Well, yes, Medvedev D.A. Prime Minister, he is also the chairman of the United Russia party. Those. The ruling party is your fifth column? Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 3 October 2015 10: 15 New
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            Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?
            - Nikolay K

            And you watch the full video with V. Katasonov, at my link. There the answer is given, enlightened in this matter, by people.
            Russia is hidden, pledged by leverage, in the same Constitution of the Russian Federation, controlled from the USA and the West, however paradoxical this might look in the current confrontation between the USA and Russia.
            The consequences of the coup in the USSR, Russia, committed by the United States, involving traitors from our countries under the leadership of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, are difficult and impossible to overcome. And the video from the meeting of the State Duma, where they are "rolling" a draft bill restricting the influence of US agents, is vivid proof of this.
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 11: 51 New
            15
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Well, yes, Medvedev D.A. Prime Minister, he is also the chairman of the United Russia party. Those. The ruling party is your fifth column? Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?

            Nikolay, and you look at the next innovative nonsense of DAMA at the Sochi "economic" forum. Typical talking head.

            Something like this. winked
            1. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K 3 October 2015 15: 09 New
              -8
              I have no desire to listen to the talking head, I can watch clowns in the circus. But to assert that EP is the fifth column is also nonsense. The ruling elite cannot secretly undermine itself.
              1. The Chat
                The Chat 5 October 2015 13: 23 New
                0
                Pessimist: it can't be worse !!!
                Optimist: Maybe, maybe !!!
          3. kepmor
            kepmor 3 October 2015 13: 05 New
            10
            Jews still rule you ... But do you doubt this? don’t tell my slippers - all of Odessa has been talking about this since 19, just as Petlyura escaped ...
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          5. forester
            forester 3 October 2015 13: 38 New
            +7
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Well, yes, Medvedev D.A. Prime Minister, he is also the chairman of the United Russia party. Those. The ruling party is your fifth column? Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?

            United Russia is not a party, but for the most part a mass of market-makers using membership in it as a tool for career growth and enrichment using the administrative resource and a fraction in the Duma is an executive body of government liberals with legislative powers
            1. ARS56
              ARS56 3 October 2015 14: 26 New
              +3
              Unfortunately, the EP party. And then - exactly according to your text.
              1. forester
                forester 4 October 2015 05: 31 New
                +2
                Quote: ARS56
                Unfortunately, the EP party. And then - exactly according to your text.

                formally yes - the party but not in essence
          6. ARS56
            ARS56 3 October 2015 14: 22 New
            11
            Yes. Russia is ruled by the 5th column, since the head of the Russian government is Medvedev, he is also the chairman of the party of traitors of Russia (see the voting results).
          7. NordUral
            NordUral 3 October 2015 15: 04 New
            +1
            We are embarrassed.
          8. Tambov Wolf
            Tambov Wolf 3 October 2015 15: 24 New
            +7
            Fifth pure water. The enemies of the people, urki, traders and shaitans rule, as Kadyrov sometimes says. Otherwise, laws protecting our sovereignty would have long been adopted.
          9. MrK
            MrK 3 October 2015 19: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Then I’m embarrassed to ask who really rules the country?

            She rules.
        3. Genur
          Genur 3 October 2015 14: 44 New
          +2
          I haven’t seen something for a long time so filed information about the voting process by our "Duma". This information would be in the open press. It is a pity that the SR and the Communist Party are silent "in a rag" ...
        4. MrK
          MrK 3 October 2015 19: 19 New
          +5
          Quote: go21zd45few
          the entire government bloc headed by Medvedev is the backbone of this scum.


          A MEDVEDEV WHOSE FRIEND? Do not remind? And who nominated him for today's post.
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 3 October 2015 13: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Babr
        I don’t even know which column to classify myself with.

        You can just walk along the sidewalk smile
        1. Babr
          Babr 4 October 2015 02: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: Babr
          I don’t even know which column to classify myself with.

          You can just walk along the sidewalk smile

          belay ............. good I appreciate the humor. But the joke is a joke, and maybe what children
      4. Old warrior
        Old warrior 3 October 2015 17: 56 New
        +8
        Lord It seems people are smart, but they don’t know: Democracy is for FOOLS.
        1. MrK
          MrK 3 October 2015 19: 28 New
          +9
          Quote: Old Warrior
          Lord It seems people are smart, but they don’t know: Democracy is for FOOLS.


          The words of O. Deripaska himself in confirmation.
          “If you discard the tales of democracy, supposedly someone decides something by going into the voting booth. In fact, booths exist so that the population has the opportunity to go there - solemnly, to the sound of music. This population should remember for a long time that they had a democratic opportunity to tick off wherever they want, that is, in a democracy, each ram has the right to choose who will cut it. It is absolutely clear that the economy, large competitive business cannot take such a great risk - the arbitrary appointment of managers of the state apparatus, as God puts their souls. ” And further. “I will repeat and clarify in order to understand the technology of managing society, any society. A group of people exercising power, say, in a state, decides on the form of this power. Now, for example, this is a form of democracy when the general public is convinced that they are governed by those whom they have chosen in the voting booths. HA HA ».
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 3 October 2015 19: 41 New
            -8
            Quote: mrark
            The words of O. Deripaska himself in confirmation

            Distribute fakes (lies, in other words)? Oh well negative

            This is an interview - whether it was, or was not, already in the 2006 year.

            Until now, some are sweeping; laughing
            1. MrK
              MrK 3 October 2015 20: 50 New
              +8
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Distribute fakes (lies, in other words)? Oh well
              This is an interview - whether it was, or was not, already in the 2006 year.


              Defender of the oligarchs. And what about the 2014 of the year. The same fakes.
              Here is Herman Gref: “You say scary things. You propose transferring power into the hands of the population ... As soon as people understand the basis of their “I” and self-identify, it will become extremely difficult to manipulate them, to manipulate them. People will not want to be manipulated when they have knowledge. How to manage a society where everyone has equal access to information, everyone has the opportunity to receive unprepared information through government-trained analysts, political scientists and huge media machines engaged in building and maintaining (social) strata? I’m getting scared from your reasoning, to be honest, I think you don’t quite understand what you’re saying. ”.
              Notice. These words were not spoken at a secret party, but at the All-Russian Economic Forum in 2014. This is how much it is necessary to HATE YOUR PEOPLE AND BE CINEMA CINEMAL, TO PUBLICALLY, OUTDOOR, EXPRESS THE MOST ESSENCE OF LIBERAL FASCISM. But as they say - the higher the macaque climbs on the tree, the better visible its Naked Liberal Ass.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 3 October 2015 21: 11 New
                -7
                Quote: mrark
                The defender of the oligarchs

                Eh .. more careful there .. with terminology fool

                The article you deigned to refer to is fake. This is a statement of fact.

                This does not mean that I really like the "aligarchs." It just means that I ... I don’t like lies wink

                Quote: mrark
                Herman Gref ...

                This, mind you, is a new question. The link to the source is usually given, by the way. In educated people.

                Here it is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVxn9q9GL_0)

                Quote: mrark
                These words were not spoken at a secret party, but at the All-Russian Economic Forum in 2014 year

                Someone deceived you, the words were spoken earlier than June 25, 2012. Because that day the video appeared on the internet. Learn materiel .. yes

                Quote: mrark
                This is how much it is necessary to HATE YOUR PEOPLE AND BE MUCH CINEMA ...

                Get off the capsa ..

                Gref, of course, spoke out .. in the style of "sometimes better to chew."

                But in his statement, IMHO, there is also a sound grain - for example, I am scared to think that someone like you suddenly was given to steer the state .. belay

                Chur me, chur ..
                1. Babr
                  Babr 4 October 2015 03: 06 New
                  +5
                  Cat. It seems that there is knowledge. But the nature is squabble. It turns out, neither myself, nor people.
                  Sometimes it seems that you try to vulgarize everything with a specialist.
                  My minus. If you read, answer the same. I will know that the message has arrived. tongue
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 4 October 2015 03: 15 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Babr
                    Cat

                    Babr hi

                    Quote: Babr
                    the impression is made by the specialist you try to vulgarize everything

                    Not in the slightest no

                    All that is written above is sincerely .. only sincerely yes

                    Quote: Babr
                    Minus mine

                    Yes and goblin with him

                    Quote: Babr
                    I will know that the message has arrived

                    In both senses wink
                    1. Babr
                      Babr 4 October 2015 03: 40 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Not in the slightest

                      Well, share your knowledge! angry
                      But not like a marketer in a bazaar. lol
                      1. afdjhbn67
                        afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 03: 45 New
                        +1
                        What is this feline family beating? laughing
                      2. Babr
                        Babr 4 October 2015 03: 50 New
                        +2
                        Not a, I teach a small-minded person how to carry to the masses, healthy, good eternal. lol
                      3. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 October 2015 04: 13 New
                        0
                        Quote: Babr
                        Not a, I teach a small-minded person how to carry to the masses a healthy, good, eternal

                        Babr, with all due respect .. You’d better teach a colleague mrARK:

                        - elementary logic (in a minimum, at least, volume)
                        - do not rush at strangers

                        It would be, to her right, it was more useful .. but about what-to-whom-where-to-carry - I myself am like a thread, Mona?
                      4. Babr
                        Babr 4 October 2015 04: 19 New
                        +2
                        Rum ... start with yourself. hi
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        You’d better teach your mrARK colleague:
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                  3. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 03: 55 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    ? What is beating about?

                    about Claudia, dear polemicist .. laughing
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                  5. Babr
                    Babr 4 October 2015 04: 04 New
                    +2
                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    ? What is beating about?

                    about Claudia, dear polemicist .. laughing

                    Ish ... just one !!! belay
                    One is one. Two is already a bazaar.
                    Three is already too much. request
                    Retire
  2. evfrat
    evfrat 4 October 2015 19: 18 New
    0
    the essence of the described process does not change
  • nils
    nils 3 October 2015 06: 18 New
    43
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    I thought at last who would explain to the dark ....


    They explain to you. The party "Eat Russia" is the most hardworking, democratic, independent, rejoicing for the homeland and the prosperity of the people.
    The question is only what kind of people?
    1. Babr
      Babr 3 October 2015 06: 20 New
      25
      Quote: nils
      The question is only what kind of people?

      Not state-forming. And God's chosen one.
      1. Rarog
        Rarog 3 October 2015 08: 28 New
        20
        Quote: Babr
        And God's chosen one.


        In quotation marks, take the "God chosen", they are Satanists. Jesus fought with them at their hands and died (in fact).
        1. Babr
          Babr 3 October 2015 08: 55 New
          +6
          Quote: Rarog
          Quote: Babr
          And God's chosen one.


          In quotation marks, take the "God chosen", they are Satanists. Jesus fought with them at their hands and died (in fact).

          To blame. soldier I will be corrected!
      2. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 3 October 2015 15: 44 New
        +9
        Speaking of the "God-chosen". Our guarantor signed a decree on the construction of the "Walls of Sorrow" in Moscow. We will "grieve" about Stalin's times and "political repressions." The Wall of Sorrow will be erected according to the project of the sculptor Georgy Frangulyan. Among the works of Frangulyan there is a monument to the President of Russia Boris Yeltsin in Yekaterinburg. And here we are torn apart about the tsar and his boyars. They will be forced to teach the Torah. Sholom Aleichem to everyone here.
    2. venaya
      venaya 3 October 2015 06: 33 New
      14
      Quote: nils
      They explain to you. Party ... rejoicing for the homeland and prosperity of the people.
      The question is only what kind of people?

      Ash stump, alien people. Who really chooses - he really appoints and rules. We were left with the opportunity to tweet only with a pencil. What may not be clear here.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 06: 49 New
        +8
        Quote: venaya
        Quote: nils
        They explain to you. Party ... rejoicing for the homeland and prosperity of the people.
        The question is only what kind of people?

        Ash stump, alien people. Who really chooses - he really appoints and rules. We were left with the opportunity to tweet only with a pencil. What may not be clear here.

        still knock on the clave until .. soon they’ll get to the Internet as soon as they drag the server onto the territory of Russia ... then just like that about the “bear-iphone” we won’t write everything like Mikhan and Baikonur- URA scream ..
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 08: 09 New
          +5
          I wonder who is minus - "iPhone-Bear" or Mikhan with Boykonur? laughing
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 3 October 2015 09: 53 New
            +8
            I put the minus only very bad! Hurray screaming when there are achievements and positive results! I respect Putin, but it’s apparently impossible for him to shoot some, maybe there are some secret agreements (it’s not just that he became and holds on to the president), maybe this is generally a world conspiracy. About our government (except, for example, Shoigu, Lavrov, Puchkov), I always say that these are hucksters, grabbers and enemies of the people, robbers of socialist property! And the peppy part of the deputies!
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 14: 07 New
              +1
              Zhenya, I in no way do not want to offend you, everyone has their own understanding and expression of emotions drinks
    3. valokordin
      valokordin 3 October 2015 09: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: nils
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      I thought at last who would explain to the dark ....


      They explain to you. The party "Eat Russia" is the most hardworking, democratic, independent, rejoicing for the homeland and the prosperity of the people.
      The question is only what kind of people?

      What, What? -American Now I saw the true face of the registered patriot-deputy S. Zheleznyak, who is spitting saliva on the screen, but in fact he is pro-American.
    4. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 09: 59 New
      +1
      For the people who chose her.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 3 October 2015 15: 11 New
        10
        Nikolay K.Many times I had to work in precinct commissions. This is the lowest level at which the majority of rangers are from candidates, from parties. So by the end of the day there is constantly shaking and recounting of voters, Suddenly I have to hold elections again, because the turnout is low . I don’t know how to rig the results at the district level, as party inspectors stand above the soul. Usually the results that are published in the city or region are not very different from the district ones. But this is not what you rigged you heard from people who scored to the polls. To the question, why didn’t they go? Answer; Do I need this? Now, with the current system of vote counting, EP wins. And grandmothers they used to vote for those who are in power all their life. The authorities promised to add a little pension or did something that they promised, that’s the grandmother’s happy. Now, count the votes of those who didn’t vote and divide them proportionally between the candidates and it turns out that the votes didn’t vote basically add to those who won more votes, that is, to the winner. And it turns out that those who did not come to vote, vote for their opponents
    5. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 10: 04 New
      11
      Quote: nils
      The question is only what kind of people?


      Yes, any other, Dear colleague, except Russian! But the fact that EdRo is a gobbling governing codla, in my opinion, no one doubts.
      And the article, of course, outraged me, to the core. How many more these "people's representatives" will spread rot on my homeland. We must go to the polls !!!

      Somehow emotionally, well, excuse me, hurt. hi
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 12: 52 New
        +3
        Vladimir, you understand, we’ll start going to the polls right away and they’ll come up with another trick except for the carousel .. it’s not going to help, playing with a sharpie who has two aces up his sleeve is unrealistic ..
        I think EP will pick up from about 60 - 72 percent in the elections, then another castling awaits us, maybe this time Medvedev will not be and this is the whole system step
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 13: 04 New
          +9
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Vladimir, you understand, we’ll start going to the polls right away and they’ll come up with another trick except for the carousel .. it’s not going to help, playing with a sharpie who has two aces up his sleeve is unrealistic ..


          Nikolay, they’ll come up with something new, and I won’t argue with you. But as colleagues correctly note, in the Irkutsk region, EdRosa was driven in full. And if you argue like you, then generally do everything is pointless. I do not agree, we must try, even if they create at least some difficulties. And the fact that they are afraid of a big turnout, they themselves admitted by canceling the threshold. They thereby removed the passive part of the electorate from the election and that’s all. Now, at least two people come to the polls, all the elections have taken place, and it doesn’t matter that the two are the candidate himself and his wife.
          In the Krasnodar Territory, for example, the EdRosovsky candidate was voted by the number of residents corresponding (according to official statistics) to the number of budget employees! Cool?

          It’s necessary, Kolya, it’s necessary, yes hi go to the polls in 2016!
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 13: 55 New
            +2
            Ok Volodya I’m going to the polls laughing Only on the example of Irkutsk is a feverish method being created so that henceforth no one encroaches on a sacred cow hi
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 3 October 2015 14: 52 New
              +2
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Well Volodya will go to the polls. Only on the example of Irkutsk is a feverish method being created now so that no one would encroach on the sacred cow

              Kolya, we’ll be two with us already. good hi
              1. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 3 October 2015 20: 54 New
                +2
                there are three of us! and not only three, but many more !. I always go to the polls, and I vote with my head! after the Edrosovsky deputy covered himself in Irkutsk, I am confident in the government and in the Duma they will come up with a lot of things so that they would not push them out of the feeder. So let's guys breathe new life into the old soviet slogan: "EVERYTHING FOR ELECTION!" Well, we'll see who takes it! good yes
            2. evfrat
              evfrat 4 October 2015 19: 50 New
              0
              Just go ahead and vote for any others. And the smaller the party we choose, the better. Despite political preferences, my candidate, for example, passed away 431 a year ago.
  • SPACE
    SPACE 3 October 2015 06: 35 New
    -27
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    in the furnace article

    Of course, populists, Katasonov, Fedorov, as well as Zhirnovsky, because of their ill-conceived extremely frivolous and premature judgments, such emotional patriots who perceive and evaluate everything literally, throwing drafts at the head of any enemy they showed themselves, will never rise to the podium, otherwise firewood on break be healthy. Regarding the law, Karpov correctly said why take the sign without having a slight idea of ​​the consequences, and even the war issues themselves, although sanctions are the prerogative of the commander in chief and should not have public discussions, this is a war. In addition, it makes sense to hide audit data if everything is not good there, otherwise it is better to show muscles. It should be noted that the EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of the wisdom and consistency of the EP and completely refutes the author’s not very smart sensational conclusions drawn by the ears. Of course, the zeal of the patriots is laudable, and it doesn’t even surprise that they are played in the dark, or whether ours are strangers, well, many, by the simplicity of their souls, will never know ...
    Z.Y. The plot is somewhat reminiscent of the heroes of O. Yankovsky and R. Bykov from the movie "Two Comrades Served."
    1. Babr
      Babr 3 October 2015 06: 50 New
      19
      Quote: SPACE
      It should be noted that the EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of wisdom

      Yes, as in the saying. Shut up, you will marry a smart one.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 3 October 2015 18: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: SPACE
        It should be noted that the EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of wisdom


        They did not abstain; they did not vote at all. And if we assume that they were not in the hall, then generally tryndets turns out. More than half of the audience gets drunk somewhere, and the rest covers them, knowing in advance that the law will not pass due to a lack of labor.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 October 2015 07: 30 New
      25
      Quote: SPACE
      EP did not vote against the law and politely and prudently abstained, which speaks in favor of the wisdom and consistency of EP

      And to see how the EP generally votes and what laws it is pushing through? And see the income of ERovtsev? Millions a year. Is it for the salary of a deputy? About wisdom. Not wisely, but stupidly kept silent, as indicated to them.
      1. Enot-poloskun
        Enot-poloskun 3 October 2015 07: 43 New
        +7
        An interesting little list ...

        Comrade Stalin must be resurrected and given to him! I wonder what decision he would make?))
        1. kot28.ru
          kot28.ru 3 October 2015 08: 38 New
          14
          I think, under Joseph Vissarionovich, such officials would be engaged in occupational therapy in the fresh air in ecologically clean areas of our country! hi
    3. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 3 October 2015 09: 50 New
      +5
      Space:
      I wonder who you are in life? Obviously not an average Russian. What is the position? So you lay down your bones for Eat Russia.
    4. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 3 October 2015 20: 59 New
      +4
      and your post reminds me of a DAM’s speech and of the beloved goat of Chubais by everyone: a lot of water and excuses for the authorities, and real affairs - 0,0000000 ..... 1%. Don't you think so? look at the cons that the forum participants put. And by the way: do you really think all of us are such idiots who cannot understand what's what?
    5. The Chat
      The Chat 5 October 2015 13: 30 New
      0
      So why didn’t they express their opinion: “abstain”,
      they just didn’t vote
      You still need to express your opinion ....
  • ava09
    ava09 3 October 2015 07: 58 New
    -4
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    What a beautiful beginning .. I thought at last someone would explain to the dark, they would confirm my suspicions, but everything happened in a showdown


    It’s difficult for some “dark” ones to explain anything because they don’t even want or cannot comprehend black on white ... In my opinion, there is nothing difficult to draw conclusions about the contents of the document and the voting results. Another question is how to make the right decisions? And the consequences of these steps need to be calculated. But the conclusion is not difficult, it’s more difficult to understand yourself - in which trench I am?
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 08: 44 New
      +3
      I understand you are "bright" wassat
      1. ava09
        ava09 11 October 2015 15: 53 New
        0
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        I understand you are "bright" wassat


        Note that you understood and said this yourself.
  • max702
    max702 3 October 2015 12: 28 New
    0
    As for me, it’s up to ALL Duma of any scale to DISCOVER and not spend money on this bunch of idiots who do not need anyone, they still don’t take REAL decisions, all the less significant is decided and made in the Kremlin! Well, let the president appoint all of them, and those appointed by him above will recruit people on their own and BE RESPONSIBLE for IT! All! You don’t need any elections (all this is a filkin letter), nor any deputies, only APPOINTED people! And the question of where this incompetent bloke came from would not be abstract "chosen in the election", but the specific name of the person who appointed him .. Let there be mistakes, including the president who put the incompetent person on the post and other shortcomings, but they will always be (shortcomings) for this is life, the question is only how much% of these errors will decrease .. With a direct appointment, asking for the result will be much easier and more reliable than with a "democratic" electoral system ..
    1. Baikal
      3 October 2015 13: 38 New
      +6
      It would seem an ideal solution ... However, the problem is that Putin is not forever. If another Humpbacked or EBN creeps into power again, then it will not seem to everyone, there is nowhere to retreat further.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 13: 57 New
        +5
        If Medvedev crawls to power already enough to experience ..
      2. MrK
        MrK 3 October 2015 19: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Baikal
        If another Humpbacked or EBN creeps into power again, then it will not seem to everyone, there is nowhere to retreat further.

        Yeah And why not the new Stalin. Or did henchiness shake right away with a particular ethnic group?
        1. ava09
          ava09 11 October 2015 15: 57 New
          0
          Quote: mrark
          Yeah And why not the new Stalin. Or did henchiness shake right away with a particular ethnic group?

          For Stalin, enemies were determined not by ethnicity, but by activities harmful to the people. Therefore, they called him the people - the Leader ...
  • 222222
    222222 3 October 2015 14: 06 New
    +3
    "We are not stokers, we are not carpenters, But there are no bitter regrets, But we ..." and granto-eaters we are high-altitude workers, "And from above, a hello to you."
    .... yes. how many of them !! laughing
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 3 October 2015 17: 14 New
    +3
    GOOD MAN. Edros party of thieves and forekeepers. Who is being imprisoned or put on trial all the time, especially in the regions? Deputies from Edrosov, who makes anti popular decisions ?? they are
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 3 October 2015 17: 14 New
    0
    GOOD MAN. Edros party of thieves and forekeepers. Who is being imprisoned or put on trial all the time, especially in the regions? Deputies from Edrosov, who makes anti popular decisions ?? they are
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 03: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    What a beautiful beginning .. I thought at last someone would explain to the dark, they would confirm my suspicions, but it all came down to dismantling in the Duma, and in general Karpov, who was closer to the communists rather than to the fifth column, to the firebox article


    Convinced colleagues laughing As for the furnace, the article was wrong, judging by the discussion of the reserve for living people .. plus article
  • SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 3 October 2015 05: 26 New
    10
    The country must know its "heroes"! In family name and with addresses (for the future).
    Thanks to EP, the term "State Dura" was firmly entrenched in this institution of power. Either you are there ER "dr.k." or "traitor".
    But such a communication of the processes and results of the work of this "body" must be brought in a simple and clear form to the public, as here, on popular patriotic sites.
    1. venaya
      venaya 3 October 2015 05: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: SibSlavRus
      Thanks to EP, the term "State Dura" was firmly entrenched in this institution of power.

      The most important, most pressing issues are voiced by such a deputy as Fedorov. Well, no way, and in what he does not look like a leader. It would be nice to look in this room for something more appropriate to the task. It seemed like they were, but very quickly they pricked up to die, especially from the heart, and this is in good health.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 05: 59 New
      +8
      Yes, the country has long known its "heroes" - it’s useless from that .. the marsh is not acceptable for normal people, but there are no other options, and it remains that to let out steam on the sites ..
      1. Babr
        Babr 3 October 2015 06: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Yes, the country has long known its "heroes"

        And I even respected these three from the list. A real enemy who understands.
        Face to face, you know what to expect from them. And the rest (who did not vote), spineless, understanding amoeba nothing?
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 3 October 2015 09: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: Babr
          And the rest (who did not vote), spineless, understanding amoeba nothing?
          It is with their tacit consent that all evil on earth is committed! (C) To abstain is more honest than not to vote, but big problems are seen with honesty in the State Duma. The Yerovtsi somehow need to publicly justify this sabotage, to answer clearly for it, otherwise the people's dislike of this "party of bosses" may eventually develop into hatred.
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 13: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: Stanislav
            Quote: Babr
            And the rest (who did not vote), spineless, understanding amoeba nothing?
            It is with their tacit consent that all evil on earth is committed! (C) To abstain is more honest than not to vote, but big problems are seen with honesty in the State Duma. The Yerovtsi somehow need to publicly justify this sabotage, to answer clearly for it, otherwise the people's dislike of this "party of bosses" may eventually develop into hatred.


            "Do not be afraid of criminals, fear indifferent - it is with their tacit consent that crimes happen" Julius Fucik
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 3 October 2015 15: 22 New
              +3
              Thank you very much for this quote from Julius Fuchek. You can’t say better.
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 02: 48 New
                0
                Hi fellow 11th Army good
        2. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 3 October 2015 09: 56 New
          +4
          Babr:
          Yes, they are not amoeba! They are the notorious fifth column. For their behavior, supposedly ours, do more harm than open opponents.
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    1. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 3 October 2015 05: 40 New
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      Your truth, Born in the USSR! We need a mechanism for the quick replacement and rotation of the "chosen ones." Sometimes you look at these “initiatives” and physiognomy, and, excuse me, nothing but a gunshot or cold is requested.
      And after all, these “chosen ones” are aware of their impunity and irresponsibility, which is the basis of permissiveness.
      The upper house of Parliament, the one that SovFed is generally something with something! It’s enough to figure out what is sitting there. And this is the lower house filter. And we still sometimes wonder.
      1. Kilo-11
        Kilo-11 3 October 2015 07: 32 New
        +9
        About deputies of the State Duma and the SF business, and only business, or anything personal, that’s why some people’s deputies in the State Duma are “sitting” for 10-15 years, but the Federation Council is generally a sedimentation tank for stealing governors and other officials. A class of professional parasites has appeared. Alas!
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 3 October 2015 06: 21 New
      +8
      Quote: Born in the USSR
      And it would happen that he did not come 3 times and the mandate to the table is free and go for a walk.

      While the leader of the EP is fighting the world's evil, the rest skip school. They think that they will be left in the second year.
      But in the USSR such a deputy could be recalled, now party lists. sad
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 3 October 2015 07: 52 New
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        Quote: Tusv
        While the leader of the EP is fighting the world's evil

        At the moment, the leader of the EP party is Dmitry Medvedev, and he is fighting not with evil, but with sleep.
        1. BMW
          BMW 3 October 2015 10: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Anatole Klim
          Currently, the leader of the EP party is Dmitry Medvedev


          The amount does not change from the change of place of the terms, only for some reason we have the opposite.
      2. TVM - 75
        TVM - 75 3 October 2015 09: 10 New
        +5
        EP showed itself in the Duma not in the best way. Karpov was instructed to read a piece of paper in which he understood absolutely nothing. In fact, not a single objection worth it! Naked sabotage! I am ashamed of the fraction! belay angry
      3. Stanislas
        Stanislas 3 October 2015 09: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: Tusv
        such a deputy could be recalled in the USSR
        At least one was recalled? laughing
        I recalled the joke of those times.
        At the lawyer.
        - Tell me, do I have the right to work?
        - Of course!
        - Is there a right to rest?
        - But what about!
        - Tell me, but I can ...
        - In no case!
      4. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 3 October 2015 16: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: Tusv
        But in the USSR it was possible to recall such a deputy, now party lists
        27.05.2005

        The State Duma of the V convocation will be elected on a proportional basis. Yesterday, the State Duma Committee on Constitutional Legislation recommended the adoption in the second reading of the draft law "On the election of deputies of the State Duma." So far, the lower house of parliament is elected according to a mixed principle: half of the deputies are elected by the majority system, half by proportional. According to the new norm, proposed by the president of Russia, the entire composition of the lower house of parliament is proposed to be elected exclusively on party lists. In the first reading, the bill was adopted on December 24, 2004. Then the bill was supported by 338 deputies, 68 voted against, 2 abstained.

        http://www.rbp.ru/news/?uid=145
  • fa2998
    fa2998 3 October 2015 05: 43 New
    20
    Why was a deputy sent to the Duma? If his new law doesn’t suit him, you can vote against or abstain, you can speak out that he doesn’t like it, add or remove something, BUT DO NOT VOTE THAT DIVERSION! I have long been convinced that she the “fifth column”, which is not so dangerous on the “Bolotnaya Square” country (it is possible to send the SOBR to it), but the one which is settled in power. They live and work on the “patterns” from behind the hillock and do not change anything. There are such people in the Duma, the government, the Central Bank, etc. And the media in their pocket — now, “United Russia” will prove on all channels that it was right, or even shut up — there was no such project, there was no vote. negative hi
  • Name
    Name 3 October 2015 06: 03 New
    -1
    Greetings to all! The names of those who are against and did not vote are known, so what is the problem ... FSB of all "by pencil" and work, WORK ...
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 06: 15 New
      11
      Quote: name
      Greetings to all! The names of those who are against and did not vote are known, so what is the problem ... FSB of all "by pencil" and work, WORK ...

      Do you still believe in this dick? or just a post marked?
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 3 October 2015 06: 04 New
    20
    EP once again dotted all i. It's time, people, to make a decision - if the candidate from EP - for this we do not vote. Through and through a rotten party, and as such it was created. Out of 238 - only 2 normal person! This should be considered.
    1. venaya
      venaya 3 October 2015 06: 24 New
      +6
      The party of power, no matter how it is called, like a sponge, by definition, absorbs all kinds of crooks. Unfortunately, this cannot be avoided.
      1. BMW
        BMW 3 October 2015 08: 38 New
        11
        Quote: venaya
        The party of power, no matter how it is called, like a sponge, by definition, absorbs all kinds of crooks. Unfortunately, this cannot be avoided.


        Nonsense - EP is a pocket party of the aligarchy, and conducts personnel policy on the basis of this.
        1. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 10 New
          +6
          EP pocket party of Putin and Medvedev, you need to proceed from this.
          1. BMW
            BMW 3 October 2015 14: 30 New
            +4
            Quote: Nikolai K
            EP pocket party of Putin and Medvedev, you need to proceed from this.


            And what, you somehow separate them from aligarchy? Or is it morons who twirl as they want?
            1. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K 4 October 2015 00: 20 New
              +1
              I just do not share it. There are simply naive people who say: “I am for Putin, but against the oligarchs”, not realizing that it simply does not happen. Now Putin depends on the ruling "elite" much more than on the opinion of the people. He brilliantly learned to “manage” democracy, but missed the moment when he himself became controlled by his own friends, of whom he made oligarchs. In today's Russia, a revolution is not possible, but a palace coup is possible. And therefore, the fight against corruption, deoffshorization, economic and political reforms will continue to stall. What this will lead to is obvious. But still I really want to do without revolutions.
      2. RUS69
        RUS69 3 October 2015 17: 23 New
        0
        I’m afraid even if you change the party, nothing will change, there will be a multi-party system in general, not one law will pass, it has already been so.
        In my opinion everything is just obvious ..
        It is clear that the party is the largest in the Duma and does not follow the principle of purity of ranks, and if you suspect everyone, mania will soon develop winked
        It’s better for me that they let them work, but periodically make an indicative flogging in the form of a landing of one of the members so that they don’t relax and they will lobby the bills that are vital for the country to see very soon and their ranks will become cleaner than other alternatives at this time unfortunately not..
        The country needs rapid adoption of laws that are being created in real time for development. Voted for the president ??? So his methods of work are such that now he’s raising a cry ..
        WAITING FOR CONS !! laughing
        1. MrK
          MrK 3 October 2015 19: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: RUS69
          The country needs rapid adoption of laws that are created in real time for development

          With pleasure. And tell me: what laws have been adopted by this sick printer for development over the past three years?
          After all, the country's economy has been falling for the third year.
        2. Babr
          Babr 4 October 2015 03: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: RUS69
          For me it’s better that they let them work but periodically do an indicative flogging in the form of a landing of one of the members

          And this is not your invention. This happens all the time. People are constantly thrown a bone, in the form of Makarevich, Serdyukov, Sobchak and others. And while the people, gnawing, gnawing, the caravan calmly goes on.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 3 October 2015 08: 30 New
      +5
      candidate from EP - we don’t vote for this.
      it's time to understand everyone. I support.
    3. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 09 New
      +4
      Do you know in our country other parties for whom you can vote? We have either populists or senility or six. The political field is protected to a brilliance.
    4. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 3 October 2015 16: 47 New
      0
      Quote: EvgNik
      EP once again dotted all i. It's time, people, to make a decision - if the candidate from EP - for this we do not vote. Through rotten batch
      2 times nominating Putin as a presidential candidate laughing
  • domokl
    domokl 3 October 2015 06: 08 New
    22
    Great layout. Why the hell do you need a deputy who does not vote? Cowardice? No, this is not cowardice, this is opportunism and the absence of one’s own position.
    It is clear that factionalism dominates. EP decided to "drain" the issue. Just why this way? Do not like vote against. He didn’t vote, get out of the Duma. Parasites in power are worse than enemies.
    To be honest, I generally think that all voting should be by name. A "absenteeism" of a certain number of votes should become a reason for depriving a deputy of a mandate. They voted for one person, and then this person refuses and we get a parasite from the following list.
    Probably, it is necessary to change something in the law on deputies.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 October 2015 06: 58 New
      +8
      Quote: domokl
      ? Don't like vote against

      Hi Sanya! So Putin hasn’t said anything about this yet, so they sat and stupid not knowing how to vote. They simply did not know which button to press in this case laughing
      1. Babr
        Babr 3 October 2015 07: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They just did not know which button to press in this case

        Am I falling away from such impudence? belay
        Well, also a variant of what happened lol
      2. TVM - 75
        TVM - 75 3 October 2015 09: 15 New
        +4
        Well, they didn’t get the instruction ... And then the stuttering Karpov then got out and protested from him - “we don’t know what could happen ..” SHAME!
      3. MrK
        MrK 3 October 2015 19: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They just did not know which button to press in this case

        That's right. Their bosses forgot to tell them.
    2. BMW
      BMW 3 October 2015 08: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: domokl
      To be honest, I generally think that all voting should be by name.


      Absolutely true. +

      Quote: domokl
      A "absenteeism" of a certain number of votes should be the reason for depriving a deputy of his mandate.


      Not a cause, but a reason for automatic deprivation. TK has not yet been canceled.
    3. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 15 New
      10
      If you are not in the know, in the elections you did not vote for a specific person, but for the party. And already the party appoints riders to the Duma, who vote as they are told, for which they receive / buy parliamentary immunity. Since they did not vote, then there was such an indication from EP. And in general, have you seen how many deputies really go to the meeting? We do not have the supreme legislation of the body, this is profanity.
      1. BMW
        BMW 3 October 2015 10: 50 New
        +4
        Quote: Nikolai K
        If you don’t know, in the elections you didn’t vote for a specific person, but for the party


        In the last elections of September 13.09.2015, XNUMX, we chose a governor, a specific person. By the way, Ilyukhin, a member of EP, was chosen. EP won almost everywhere. Trust EP to go nuts. So do not need water. Here is the answer:
        1. The election results are rigged.
        2. Most just lie, they voted for EP, and here they scold.
        1. RUS69
          RUS69 3 October 2015 17: 29 New
          -2
          Option number 2 straight to the point !!!
          But there really is no one to vote for this party any lesser of evils today!
          And the staff, by the way, are all from the regions, so Cavo has grown that and we are content with gentlemen smile
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 3 October 2015 06: 12 New
    14
    The EP party of officials and big business is the conduit of the Kremlin’s ideas .. therefore, the fight against the proliferation of bureaucracy is doomed in advance who will destroy its electoral layer .. As recently as today I listened to Medvedev’s tambourine and thought again under spells of reduction - even more parasites to us they’ll be put on the neck especially on the eve of the elections to the Duma. Elections in Irkutsk scared EP more they will not allow this.
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 3 October 2015 08: 47 New
      +2
      During the election of the governor of the Amur Region in the city of Blagoveshchensk, Abramov (LDPR) gained more votes than Kozlov (United Russia) hi , we just saw what it is, this Kozlov belay , because he managed to visit the mayor of Blagoveshchensk recourse ! But in the region the villagers felt that they needed Kozlov fool I will listen to their opinion about him in a year lol ! In our area, the EP has a very precarious position, and there were enough oddities in the vote count, well, the Liberal Democratic Party itself got it!
      1. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 18 New
        +5
        Yeah, if people are forced to vote for the talkers of the Zhirinovites, apparently there is absolutely no one to choose from. Brought the country with such elections in the form of controlled democracy
        1. RUS69
          RUS69 3 October 2015 17: 32 New
          -2
          As history has shown our people do not fit democracy, we need totalitarianism.
          From democracy, we fool fast.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 3 October 2015 15: 50 New
        +1
        kot28.ru By the way, Vanya Abramov is on the same list as at the beginning of the article. The list of candidates in the Amur Region did not have bright personalities. Dragunov is a dark horse. Kobyzov and Abramov who have become familiar for a long time, I wouldn’t put them especially. And Kozlov, to whom all conditions were created. The most important thing is that none of them has a management team. He takes his own skin to Sakhalin.
  • Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 3 October 2015 06: 16 New
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    Well, it's not for nothing that they are called Eat Russia. Our deputies, as Lenin used to say, are Political Prostitutes. Almost everyone was at Our Gazprom home. As the people ceased to vote for them, bam a new party and there are still the same faces. And so they hang out there. With them, if you remove the immunity, then you can almost half safely plant.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 20 New
      +1
      Nothing, now EP, led by DAM, will fulfill its mission, they will merge and create a new party of power like the National Front, but with the same characters.
  • plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 3 October 2015 06: 25 New
    16
    "United Russia" is slowly but surely degenerating into the "One Fifth Column" ... which criminal case you don’t take ... EP..which is above .what is on the ground. At the same time, they are actively introducing their people on behalf of Putin and are actively discrediting him .. .I do not speak without reason ... before my eyes the activities of the governor of the Transbaikal Territory ... Ilkovsky (representative of the God-chosen people) ...
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 October 2015 07: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      "United Russia" is slowly but surely reborn into the "Single Fifth Column

      EP has always been the fifth column since its inception. Here, I judge in my city. When a cell was formed in the city, the first to enter it were the invaders, bosses of all stripes, and officials. Then, under the threat of dismissal, the workers were forced to enter. It didn’t work out very well - they refused too much, but you won’t dismiss everyone. So this is the party of the “fifth column” without options.
    2. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 25 New
      -2
      Well, yes, Putin is good, and all the other crooks are discriminating against him. It seems like something I have already heard. Oh, yes, we still had the father of the peoples, Comrade Stalin, around him there were also solid Trotskyists, bandists and other enemies of the people. It is very touching to listen to fairy tales about the good king and bad retinue. . .
      1. plotnikov561956
        plotnikov561956 3 October 2015 21: 14 New
        +2
        Dear Nicholas ... cast aside emotions about Putin and Comrade Stalin ... if you can of course do this and objectively evaluate the merits of THEM in comparison ... it's so simple ... Personally, I myself had to reconsider my attitude to Comrade Stalin .. and of course to those "comrades" who poured mud on him ... it's never too late .. try to understand the truth of things .. Good luck ...
  • Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 3 October 2015 06: 38 New
    10
    They that will vote against themselves? wassat It’s better not to vote .... from their point of view. wassat
    But how to assess such a "demarche" from the point of view of the voter? Sudden diarrhea of ​​deputies, who before going to the toilet did not have time to transfer their voting cards to colleagues. Or an absence at a meeting due to a sudden excursion to a foreign resort? So for what the hell they pay money. In any case, the deputy must express his opinion on the bill. Otherwise, why the hell do we need it there.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 October 2015 06: 40 New
    10
    deliberately sabotaged the bill.

    Which is absolutely possible, because over all this is really like sabotage (harming the state using official position). So part of the top is beneficial that
    foreign organizations are currently conducting an audit of most strategic enterprises in Russia

    But who will deal with this is a big question.
    1. BMW
      BMW 3 October 2015 08: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But who will deal with this is a big question.


      Yes, no one will. Which one will chop itself?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 3 October 2015 08: 52 New
        +1
        Perhaps EP will not draw conclusions, but the people will think about it.
        1. BMW
          BMW 3 October 2015 09: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: rotmistr60
          but the people will think about it.


          No, you are very mistaken. Recent elections are proof of this. People lost faith and did not go to the polls. In our region, there was a record low turnout, for all the time this was only once.
  • Mihail55
    Mihail55 3 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +4
    Does anyone really think that this was a spontaneous decision of each deputy from EP? Another "approvals"! And sorry for the money for THESE, it would be possible for more necessary things ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 October 2015 06: 49 New
    +9
    Did not vote - it did not do its job! Was, wasn’t - but he didn’t come to the machine - did he get a salary? Not an order. I didn’t get acquainted with the draft law, therefore, as a matter of fact, I can’t say, but the fact that people really being in the conference room did not vote, did not oppose - well, they didn’t work, in general. I would propose a simple scheme - I did not vote - absenteeism, do not pay salaries, and a fine - double the amount for daily earnings. I suspect that like a hand ...
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 29 New
      +3
      They have such a job, to vote as they say, for that they receive money, and at the same time parliamentary immunity. Moreover, some people like this work so much that they themselves are willing to pay extra to get it.
  • tomsk
    tomsk 3 October 2015 07: 07 New
    +7
    but for me it’s half of these ,, servants of the people, ”they have to be driven out of the Duma, and even better, transplanted to the balance. ate rozhitak so that the TV screen does not fit. and give them apartments and personal cars ... they would give each room in a communal apartment, yes, according to Zaporizhzhya, then they really would be servants of the people!
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 October 2015 07: 53 New
      13
      Quote: Tomsk
      would give every little room in a communal apartment yes for Zaporizhzhya,

      In general, I think that the deputy’s salary should be 10 times the minimum in Russia. Then the salaries of the workers would have jumped, and it would be easier to trace cases of income outside parliamentary activity. Yes, and would not be torn there like that - by 10t then minimal.
      1. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 31 New
        +2
        Do not believe it would be torn. They do not work there for salaries.
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 3 October 2015 12: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Nikolai K
          They do not work there for salaries.

          Clear business not for a salary. That to them on pocket expenses.
          1. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 3 October 2015 21: 46 New
            0
            Clear business not for a salary. That to them on pocket expenses
            .
            And then enough horseradish wassat
  • fa2998
    fa2998 3 October 2015 07: 14 New
    10
    Quote: domokl
    Probably, it is necessary to change something in the law on deputies.

    And how do you imagine this? The laws are considered by precisely these “deputies.” Will they accept anything against themselves? Maybe they will even reduce their salaries ?! request laughing hi
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 33 New
      +1
      The current changes in the electoral law were initiated by Putin. All questions to him. And anyway, what claims do you dislike about controlled democracy?
  • askort154
    askort154 3 October 2015 07: 15 New
    13
    Let me in ward number 6. I am swimming!
    Foreign auditors at Uralvagonzavod !!!.
    It is a pity for Stalin and Beria, they are not allowed to lie down calmly, modern, openly acting, traitors to the motherland.
    Where are we going ?!
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 October 2015 07: 25 New
    +7
    And why so far these "refusals" from voting are not equated to a banal truancy, with all the ensuing monetary consequences, up to and including deductions from vacation pay? But is it not time for our Guarantor to dissolve such a "non-working" Duma, let them "think" in the country or in the village, in the mound! Or Vladimir Putin acts on the principle that he is credited with: he doesn’t want to “beat with his fist” on a pile of shit because will scatter in all directions and he will slap everyone at all? So in the Bill that was raised, it’s not a joke about shit, but a conversation about a serious danger to Russia and its citizens! Well, if you don’t want to work, hand in the Mandate and ride on all four sides, at least to America, but no, “they are well fed here!” It’s time to stop feeding this horde of loafers, and it’s better to throw money saved on them to social programs, hospitals and education, but after all, the decision will be made by the same familiar faces ... And so on in a circle ... And we have already passed the elections, remember the words attributed to IV Stalin: "... it doesn’t matter how they vote, it’s important who and how he counts! "What is Nekrasovskoye again," At the main entrance ":" ... the gentleman will come, the master will judge us ... "and hereinafter:" ... they buried the old one, wiped new tears from his carriage and left to Peter (to the Kremlin) "!
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 3 October 2015 07: 43 New
    +5
    I have pessimism and anger. AS IT
    Quote: askort154
    Let me in ward number 6. I am swimming!
    Foreign auditors at Uralvagonzavod !!!.
    It is a pity for Stalin and Beria, they are not allowed to lie down calmly, modern, openly acting, traitors to the motherland.
    Where are we going ?!

    maybe? Sheer betrayals. Like there were revelations.
    I re-read it again. I hoped, maybe somewhere something positive all of a sudden?
    Fedorova, I respect Katasonova, but as the previous commentators wrote, they are not leaders.
    1. Babr
      Babr 3 October 2015 09: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Fedorova, I respect Katasonova, but as the previous commentators wrote, they are not leaders.

      I respect Fedorov only because he made me think about many things about which I had not previously suspected. But he was allowed to say A, but he was not allowed to speak B.
      This is when the truth breaks out, it must be voiced but with significant omissions. And this means to take aside.
      But what else to expect from the "God's chosen"?
  • Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 3 October 2015 07: 48 New
    +6
    We don’t have any responsibility for anything, they ordered something and he loots his pocket and throws up his hands like it’s not my fault, it happened. I don’t argue earlier they also stole but did it, and they were afraid that they would plant and confiscate. And right now they are not afraid of anything, amnesty after 3 days. And now they are all orphans and they don’t have anything at home or over the hill. And to think with a head about what if something happens they’ll simply take away everything they have made by stealing and they will be trampless as they are in their essence. And all of the EP. Who will not be caught stealing and he is a poor fellow faithful adherent of EP. It’s not a shame for ourselves. To us, in 93 Americans, the Constitution was written, and all attempts to change it for the benefit of Russia do not fail precisely because of these figures. As such, the Center Bank of the country does not obey the leadership of it. But it submits to the FRS. USA. They lumpened, I want to work, I want no, but pay a pension, I'm a citizen of R.F. And the fact that I did not work and did not pay there does not bother me. I owe everything to anyone. The motto of the Liberals today.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 3 October 2015 16: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Born in the USSR
      We in 93 Americans wrote the Constitution
      Maybe they wrote to you personally.

      And who voted for her?

      and all attempts to change it for the benefit of Russia fail
      Name at least one such attempt.

      As so, the Center Bank of the country does not obey the leadership thereof.
      Where did you get that disobeys?

      And obeys FRS. USA
      fool
  • PValery53
    PValery53 3 October 2015 07: 55 New
    +6
    Honest hard workers for being late for work are punished with various hardships, and THESE deputies, when they come to work, refuse to do it. Yes, and in an important issue for the country's security. They were shot for sabotage in wartime. And at the present time ?. - The deputies' refusal to vote is a "drain" of the country's interests "quietly", vilely.
  • Dada
    Dada 3 October 2015 08: 13 New
    +4
    It turns out in EP some provocateurs. But I think that we live so shitty.
  • Signaller
    Signaller 3 October 2015 08: 29 New
    +7
    Are all 268 people (99,2% of the composition of United Russia and different parts of other parties) suddenly abruptly and for good reason absent from the hall ?.
    America discovered ????? Their main leader DAM (you know) recently wrote a manifesto on the attitude to the market, and to liberalism in particular. In my opinion - he has nowhere to put stamps in the manifest. Gaidar-Chubais ideas in life, I would say so. And as the leader says, his whole servitor does just that.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 3 October 2015 08: 47 New
    +3
    actually dismissed for absenteeism
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 3 October 2015 09: 03 New
    +5
    Actually, you need to deal with such behavior and as hard as possible. Until the deprivation of immunity. But the majority of those who did not vote from the United Russia party, how can this be so. After all, the party is ruling and supported by the president. After all, this is, by and large, sabotage.
  • lwxx
    lwxx 3 October 2015 09: 04 New
    +3
    Does anyone else have any illusions about PEDROS?
  • ArcanAG
    ArcanAG 3 October 2015 09: 13 New
    +1
    Why then Fedorov will not leave EP?
    Well, why did Fedorov vote (or did not appear to vote) for those laws against which he actively opposed (for example, Russia's accession to the WTO)?
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 3 October 2015 16: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: ArcanAG
      Why then Fedorov will not leave EP?
      Well, why did Fedorov vote (or did not appear to vote) for those laws against which he actively opposed (for example, Russia's accession to the WTO)?
      Because the liar and the populist pushing legally illiterate shnyaga.

      Because both this and most of its other bills are a populist dummy that cannot be technically accepted, and which people happily hawt.

      GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION: CONCLUSION of November 18, 2014 N 7684п-П13

      It should be noted that the proposed definition of “aggressor country” does not correspond to the definition of “aggression” given in the Resolution of the UN General Assembly adopted on December 14, 1974.
      In addition, the bill does not take into account the established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation (Articles 80, 86, 87, 114), the Federal Constitutional Law "On the Government of the Russian Federation" (Articles 13, 14, 21), the Federal Law "On Special Economic Measures" (Articles 1 - 4) the delimitation of the powers of the President of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Russian Federation to take measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, as well as the introduction of special economic measures, the basis of which is the emergence of a combination of circumstances requiring an urgent response to an internationally wrongful act or an unfriendly action of a foreign state, posing a threat to the interests and security of the Russian Federation and (or) violating the rights and freedoms of its citizens.
      The ban on state and municipal purchases of the services under consideration in the bill from affiliated or dependent Russian citizens or Russian legal entities does not comply with article 14 of the Federal Law "On the contract system in the procurement of goods, work, services to meet state and municipal needs" regarding the conditions of use national treatment of services from foreign citizens or legal entities.
      It should be noted that the draft law does not define the mechanisms for termination of activities for persons who, at the time of the introduction of the prohibitions stipulated by the draft law, carry out relevant activities on the territory of the Russian Federation, and did not assess the consequences of the adoption of the draft law for Russian legal entities present in international markets.
      The Government of the Russian Federation does not support the bill.

      http://base.consultant.ru/cons/cgi/online.cgi?req=doc;base=PRJ;n=125941;fld=134;
      from = 125578-6; rnd = 0.5882286767009646
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 4 October 2015 01: 31 New
        0
        There is a problem! And it must be solved, and not get off with crocheting and demagogy.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 4 October 2015 22: 39 New
          0
          Quote: nikolaev
          There is a problem! And it must be solved, and not get off with crocheting and demagogy.
          So do not get off, but decide.

          I recommend starting with an increase in the educational level - so that such scribbles are not kept.
  • akudr48
    akudr48 3 October 2015 09: 23 New
    +3
    The author of the border of the 5th column took too narrowly. Everyone can offend deputies ...

    But who are these deputies - in fact, they are agents of the oligarchy and the ruling bureaucracy, including its highest strata with their liberal informational and intellectual service staff.

    It is there that the roots of these enemies must be unearthed, and at the level of deputies, only the tops of this treacherous - thieves layer of the country are visible.

    And further. All these so-called "servants of the people" are the same, regardless of speeches, statements, statements, from their party coloring, all bring only harm to the people.

    Russia needs a total change of the ruling stratum, that’s the main task of the people.
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 3 October 2015 09: 28 New
    +4
    It seems that the system of failure of bills that for some reason are not suitable for this party is well-established in the EP. And even notebooks "patriots" that do not descend
    from the TV screens, they unanimously supported a common conspiracy, otherwise you can’t say it, you dare not
    .. against the wind. Voter, conclude for whom it is worth voting, for whom not.
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    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 41 New
      +3
      They are not chosen ones, but appointees. We have one chosen one.
  • Nymp
    Nymp 3 October 2015 09: 39 New
    +3
    How can we still produce such masterpieces of military equipment as the T-14, T-50, etc. if foreign auditors let out tentacles in the heart of our defense Deputies failed the bill to account!
  • dropout
    dropout 3 October 2015 09: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: akudr48
    Russia needs a total change of the ruling stratum, that’s the main task of the people.


    Or maybe it's time to call a sailor Zheleznyak?
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 3 October 2015 10: 40 New
      +3
      What's the point? They told you that we already have a “God-chosen” nation in power. As in the 17 year, the power was seized, and continues to hold, only the slogans change as necessary. And Zheleznyak was just a naive pawn on the battlefield for world revolution.
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 3 October 2015 10: 05 New
    +5
    "We eat Russia" - so the people call the party EP.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 3 October 2015 10: 13 New
    +9
    One of the effective tools to combat corruption is the process of confiscation of property in favor of the state.
    The example provided in this article more than convincingly shows that it is impossible to accept an amendment to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation regarding confiscation, since the majority in the Duma is with United Russia. This majority blocks and inhibits any attempt to enact laws in the interests of the state.
    Look at the latest scandals related to the arrests of governors and heads of municipalities - they are all representatives of the EP.
    So dear colleagues, when you go to the polls - vote for any other party except United Russia and against the openly pro-Western Parnassos and Yabloko.
    As long as the majority in the Duma is for United Russia, our tariffs will continue to increase, the retirement age will increase, medicine and education will be disfigured, state property will be privatized, and clearly anti-people and anti-state policies will be pursued.
    Obviously, the idea of ​​creating a Popular Front movement for GDP did not come about by chance. It is a pity that the NF is not represented in the Duma, so that according to the laws most important for the state, it was possible to coalitionally (the Communist Party, the CP, the Liberal Democratic Party, the NF) outweigh the "Edros" majority.
    1. onix757
      onix757 3 October 2015 10: 30 New
      +6
      ONF is the same vertical toy as edro. Just anticipating the legitimate antipathy of the people for edra, they came up with the same empty onf that would be promoted for the presidential election.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 3 October 2015 11: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: onix757
        ONF is the same vertical toy as edro. Just anticipating the legitimate antipathy of the people for edra, they came up with the same empty onf that would be promoted for the presidential election.

        In vain you are so respected.
        This new structure was conceived as a counterweight to United Russia’s “universal leader”, and in the case of the governors of Sakhalin and Komi, it showed that nishtyak wasn’t in everything, as the initiative (information for consideration, to say, operational development) came from below. To date, according to publicly available information, more than 15 governors are in operational development and another 8 are taken in pencil.
        It’s bad that now in the NF those who have a well-developed “chuyka” climb where to attach themselves, depending on the interest of the first person. For them, the essence is not work, but membership. When their number exceeds those who really work, then the effectiveness of the NF will be reduced to zero.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 3 October 2015 17: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Quote: onix757
          ONF is the same vertical toy as edro. Just anticipating the legitimate antipathy of the people for edra, they came up with the same empty onf that would be promoted for the presidential election.

          In vain you are so respected.
          This new structure is conceived as a counterweight to United Russia’s “universal leader”
          ONF Central Headquarters

          Govorukhin Stanislav Sergeevich - EdRo

          Timofeeva Olga Viktorovna - EdRo

          Aitkulova Elvira Rinatovna - EdRo

          Batalina Olga Yurievna - EdRo

          Bogomaz Alexander Vasilievich - EdRo

          Bocharov Andrey Ivanovich - EdRo

          Vasiliev Alexander Nikolaevich - EdRo ........
          1. ARS56
            ARS56 3 October 2015 23: 37 New
            +4
            ONF Central Headquarters:
            Govorukhin Stanislav Sergeevich - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE
            Timofeeva Olga Viktorovna - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE
            Aitkulova Elvira Rinatovna - EdRo - not in the list
            Batalina Olga Yurievna - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE
            Bogomaz Alexander Vasilievich - EdRo - not in the list
            Bocharov Andrey Ivanovich - EdRo - not in the list
            Vasiliev Alexander Nikolaevich - EdRo - DO NOT VOTE

            And here the same dug in ...

            ... then the effectiveness of the NF will be reduced to zero.
    2. Babr
      Babr 3 October 2015 10: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      So dear colleagues, when you go to the polls - vote for any other party except United Russia and against the openly pro-Western Parnassos and Yabloko.

      Explain to me the syroma lol
      How to choose the best manager? Well, by profession, this is understandable. Shoemakers can choose the best. Shipbuilders, too. Well and so on, by profession. And the manager?
      All the people choose. Does he have concepts in management?
      1. onix757
        onix757 3 October 2015 10: 40 New
        +2
        Any manager begins with his "political creed."
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 3 October 2015 17: 20 New
          +4
          Any manager does not start with his creed, but with the length of his tongue
          1. Ladoga
            Ladoga 4 October 2015 22: 29 New
            0
            The vast majority of managers generally have no creed.
            And also, I dare to assure you, most managers do not understand what it is - a creed!
            Managers are all appointees, and appointees, as a rule, are people with psychology — which you please.
            People with slavish psychology do not have their own creed, especially political one.
      2. rosarioagro
        rosarioagro 3 October 2015 10: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Babr
        Does he have concepts in management?

        he hires those who understand and manage them
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 3 October 2015 10: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: Babr
        How to choose the best manager? Well, by profession, this is understandable. Shoemakers can choose the best. Shipbuilders, too. Well and so on, by profession. And the manager?

        The question is good, you won’t answer it very quickly because the criteria of a “manager” in the “place” and in the “Duma” do not correspond to the tasks and responsibilities. The manager in the "place" is responsible from planning and decision-making to implementation PERSONALLY ..... the "manager" in the Duma, unfortunately, is not responsible for anything, because personal responsibility is blurred in the "party interest". Perhaps the following comment ...
        Quote: onix757
        Any manager begins with his "political creed."

        .... very close to the point.
        1. Babr
          Babr 3 October 2015 11: 47 New
          0
          Quote: rosarioagro
          he hires those who understand and manage them

          And how can people know that they are hiring exactly those who are needed?
          He is not a boom in control. The answer is, to choose, he must know at least the basics of management.
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 3 October 2015 10: 33 New
    +6
    Unicorns have once again shown their faces. There was a bill of the same Fedorov on restricting the rights of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and subordinating him to the Russian government. 400 out of 89 MPs voted. The guarantor said: .. the Central Bank is pleased with the work ..
    1. onix757
      onix757 3 October 2015 10: 48 New
      +3
      Maybe Fedorov should think about leaving the edra?
  • onix757
    onix757 3 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +4
    By and large, the issue is not in secondary figures in anti-people’s power, but in those who contain them there. The system needs to be changed .. In my opinion, there is no alternative to the Communist Party (read ideas), but this does not mean that you need to be too "constructive" with this power.
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 3 October 2015 10: 48 New
    11
    Article-detector, to identify whether "their", or whether the fifth column on the site! In addition to Bolotnaya, I have not seen more representatives of the fifth column than at a meeting of the Presidential Council on the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights.

    The stubborn desire of the presenters, at all kinds of political shows, to amaze more than this shit is amazing, and at the same time - a journalist from the USA, Svidomo from Ukraine, a patriotic Pole, and a shit of local spill. Why should everyone more than half the time allotted to the program listen to this shit.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 02: 59 New
      +1
      Vadim is not an indicator, in the first post I have almost 100 minuses and then pluses .. everything is not clear
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt 4 October 2015 13: 30 New
        +1
        And you consider the minuses as pluses! After all, this is the answer of those who disagree with your position, but without any arguments - for the company!
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  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 3 October 2015 10: 49 New
    +4
    - Describe the degree of your adequacy.
    “I don't take a selfie.”
    - You are accepted!
  • Colonel
    Colonel 3 October 2015 12: 17 New
    11
    In principle, not new. But when it’s “weighty, rude, visibly” like this, you get a little overexposed.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 4 October 2015 13: 45 New
      0
      Class! Meehan would have bitten her nails with envy .. laughing
  • Yurban
    Yurban 3 October 2015 12: 41 New
    +3
    According to statistics, it is clear that Dimon with his party EP; the pest or the gentlemen didn’t control what is happening, it’s a pity that there are so many Amer nits in Russia, it’s very unfortunate, and so openly, a nightmare, it’ll be necessary in the course of it, otherwise it will be too late, especially at the moment.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 3 October 2015 13: 26 New
    +6
    And I also wanted to say, forbid all parties, and other companies to use the word RUSSIA in the name. Let them be called democratic, oppositional, liberal
    and conservative, but at least sloppy. And then they use the name of the country in their slogans- "Strong country, United Russia!" crying for you !! negative hi PC-and watch how people voted, a lot of my supporters on the site, I successfully logged in! good
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 3 October 2015 13: 37 New
    +1
    EP in the furnace! And the guarantor would not hurt to clarify the EP "sheep"that" is in the workplace "and" work "(that is, to defend the national interests of Russia) is not the same thing. I hope so!
  • cap54
    cap54 3 October 2015 13: 48 New
    +8
    I want to ask: Why is a worker who works at the enterprise, for absenteeism for a disrespectful reason, dismissed under the article, and deputies who do not attend meetings (i.e., work) are raised their salaries to 450 thousand rubles. per month?!!
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    1. Baikal
      3 October 2015 14: 04 New
      +3
      For this, an article was written so that the people knew the “heroes” of their land in person, so to speak. In order not to elementary vote for them next time ... Or stretch in birch trees in half, if necessary yes
  • NordUral
    NordUral 3 October 2015 14: 03 New
    +8
    There is nothing to add. My conclusion: get out of power! Stop making fools of us.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 3 October 2015 17: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: NordUral
      Stop making us fools
      However, the article did a very good job of this. smile
  • Governor
    Governor 3 October 2015 14: 27 New
    +5
    Oh, how to wash the king! Oh slandered the priest! This devilry is happening in the Duma, the tsar has nothing to do with it.
    Oh yes, the king of the popular front creates or some kind of crap. The tricky plan is put into action!

    In any incomprehensible situation - get up with your chest for the king and pray for the holy mnogohodovka.
  • Old warrior
    Old warrior 3 October 2015 14: 35 New
    +1
    If this article is not stuffed in anticipation of the election, then the work is done well.
    1. Baikal
      3 October 2015 15: 12 New
      +3
      Not stuffing. The author wrote under the impression of the seen video material.
  • 31R-US
    31R-US 3 October 2015 16: 53 New
    0
    recourse The main trouble of Russia.
  • RUS69
    RUS69 3 October 2015 17: 08 New
    +1
    Everything is beautiful of course and with pictures BUT it’s not entirely clear how financial audit can harm our companies because all of the above-mentioned companies annually provide reports on their financial activities and do not make any secrets from this.
    There is also such an opinion that if we involve our auditors, they will simply cover up corruption because all these companies are often pocket-sized.
    The law is of course needed but requires deep study in all directions.
    For example, I still remember how, during one of the periods, some experts came to our country and, under the pretext of helping, helped us to create such laws that the country fell apart to hell and everything was done with the same slogans ALL FOR THE COUNTRY !! so it’s better to let everyone take it slowly ... this is purely my opinion hi
  • viach
    viach 3 October 2015 17: 13 New
    -2
    And the people blame Putin. This is the grassroots work of the 5th column! Unknowingly, many support the Internet "guardians" pouring on Putin and Medvedev, accusing them of inattention to the needs of the people, in the poor economic component of the country. But, as someone correctly noted, they won’t be in time for everything, and then there’s another 5-column standing in the same row with their legs. Ah, what rascals! Need, be sure to need a hard cleaning of the state apparatus!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 3 October 2015 18: 44 New
      0
      Quote: viach
      And the people blame Putin

      Well no. Rafik is innocent (C).