Rostec: The decision on the choice of the machine for the "Warrior" will be taken within six months

What machine will be selected as the main one for the “Warrior” equipment will be known in the coming 6 months. The head of Rostec, Sergey Chemezov, hopes that this will be AK-12. Reports about it MIC with reference to Interfax-Volga.

“Within six months (a decision will be made). Now the military tests pass »- said the general director.

“The tests of the Kalashnikov AK-12 automaton are so far successful,” he noted. - I hope that he will be selected as the main equipment for the "Warrior". "

Meanwhile, in April, Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission Oleg Bochkarev told reporters that the military department had already decided to purchase the AK-12, and he would start entering the troops in 2016 after experimental military operation.

Comments

[figwam]

This lasts the second year. On "Armata" the decision was made quickly.

[max702]

Quote: figvam

It lasts a second year.

Yeah, Santa Barbara is straight ..

[Dreiko11]

Yes kapets, there was information that they had already chosen the AK-12 and by the end of 2016 the troops will receive 80 sets of "warrior" or will they be without machine guns? would share 000% each AEK and AK 50

[oleg-gr]

Kalashnikov. The case of Mikhail Timofeyich continues. That's for sure - a genius.

[Baikonur]

It seems to me that AEK with balanced automatic is better!
Although Kalash has developed one! (I think that maybe they agreed with the tarters so that the Army would remain with the famous brand! Yes, and it’s already dear to all our military men)

[General Frost]

Well, in such a case, rush is definitely not needed

[BIP PS FSB RF]

Haste is not needed, but every quarter it is not necessary to state that the machine will be chosen within a certain time or already chosen. If the memory does not change already three times, it was stated that the decision was made and the machine was chosen. Last time they said that they would give Kalash to everyone, and to the elected AEK.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Baikonur

I think that maybe they agreed with the tarters to keep the Army with the famous brand

Of course, they said so: suck in, tarry people, nevertheless the famous brand, where you are with Poroshenko’s snout and in the elite ranks.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Baikonur

It seems to me that AEK with balanced automatic is better!

AEK is undoubtedly better, as it is not a modernization of an existing weapon, but a new one with great modernization potential. In addition, accuracy and accuracy are higher than that of Kalash. Moreover, the machine is not inferior in reliability to the legendary machine. But this does not beg the AK 12.
For me, the best option is to give AEK special forces, troops and marines, and give the AK-12 to regular units.
Although ideally, of course, it would be great to send AEK to the troops too, but I’m afraid the Kalashnikov concern will not let this happen.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: NEXUS

The best option is to give AEK to special forces, troops and marines, and to give AK-12 to regular units.

Only if these fighters are fighting in parallel universes. It’s just that the interests of arms companies do not need to be projected onto the difficulties of the rifle industry.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Curious to know why the test results are not satisfied?

Kalash lost the first state acceptance to AEK and was sent for revision as a result of the customer’s requirements for weapons being not met.

[theadenter]

Quote: NEXUS

Although ideally, of course, it would be great to send AEK to the troops too, but I’m afraid the Kalashnikov concern will not let this happen.

You can not give one hundred percent preference to one machine, otherwise one of the concerns will begin to suffer losses and may go bankrupt. Today AK will be claimed, tomorrow AEK. It is necessary to purchase both those and those.

[Per se.]

Quote: theadenter

Today AK will be claimed, tomorrow AEK. It is necessary to purchase both those and those.

Yes, monopoly is a dangerous thing, there should be healthy competition, without prejudice to reasonable unification. But, just who needed to bankrupt a tank plant in Omsk and in every possible way find fault with the T-80, which is far from exhausted its potential, UVZ has essentially become a monopolist here, which is hardly good. I really hope that in the same way, for the sake of "Sukhoi", they will not lose the MiG.

[theadenter]

I hope that the task of developing a fifth-generation light aircraft is an attempt to preserve the MiG concern.

[Forest]

But is it not too much to have several types of tanks in the troops? These are not the first MBTs that were relatively cheap, they are multi-million cars. This is to keep 2 production lines, 2 training, 2 rembases. Then all progress in the form of a multifunctional platform disappears.

[Per se.]

Quote: Forest

But is it not too much to have several types of tanks in the troops?

Nobody says that it is necessary to bring chaos into the system, but this is not about anarchy in tank building, but about the prevailing and proven. If we are talking about two production lines, this is any better than completely destroying one of them. Finally, isn't there any unification at all between the T-72 / T-90 and the T-80? The fact that there was a main tank with a diesel engine and a gas turbine is more a plus than a minus, given our geography and specifics. Look at NATO tanks, if you take the main ones (Leopard, Challenger, Leclerc plus Abrams), they do not repeat each other, but complement each other. The British left a rifled cannon, the Germans had a diesel engine, the Americans had a gas turbine, and the French had an automatic loader. Aren't there requirements for standards in NATO, is there why the bourgeoisie are so "stupid" and "wasteful"? We, on the other hand, have much more in common between the T-90 and T-80 than between the Alliance tanks, and these are not only ammunition standards and general weapons and communications systems, but also similar production systems, unification of combat modules and aggregates. If we leave one tank production center for a country like Russia, this is stupidity and betrayal. Now about the "platforms", since they have existed for a long time, take a lot of equipment only on the basis of the T-72, from bridgelayers and repair and recovery vehicles to BMO-T, ACS, TOS, BMPT, and there are also other "platforms", for example, based on MT-LB. The publicized "Armata", "Kurganets", "Boomereng" require fine-tuning, but with all this they will sooner or later become obsolete, and, again, everything is from scratch, again we will have new "platforms" instead of old ones? No, we will already be in stages, but then what is the need now to break the "old house" without building a new one?

[Forest]

NATO always tried to create unified systems, they could have a single tank in the 80's, but the Americans ran into a 105-mm cannon and gas turbine, the British in a rifled gun and the Centurion’s experience in battles in Israel, Sinai and Syria, the French were generally aloof then from NATO. It is not all NATO that needs to be considered, but specific countries — nowhere, except China and Ukraine, now they produce completely different machines. A single fighter was not allowed to make European aircraft manufacturers, automatic - the Germans and the British. And their weapons costs are an order of magnitude higher than ours. In the USSR they also tried to make a single tank - Kharkov after the death of Morozov did not bring 64-ku to mind to improve the car, they gave the UVZ task - there they crossed 64-ku with their MBT projects and pushed 72-ku, 80-ka went into the series soon . So we recognized that too many different techniques were lit up, it consumed a lot of money, but then they tried to please all enterprises so that no one lagged behind. And now nobody is breaking anything - both 72 and 90 will remain in service for a long time, until another generation of tanks arrives.

[Thunderbolt]

I assembled my first PKK when I was nine years old. My father was in charge of metallurgy at one of the Samara machine-tool factories. Cops and warriors brought discarded trunks to the firebox. Dad sometimes squeezed out his son and brought me back, but spare parts, not assembled products (he saved on children's toys ))))). Earlier, such plastic kalashniki were sold for children ... I sawed off a ski pole to size and inserted it like a barrel, then I attached real bipods, a store, an aiming front sight to this (maybe not so called, but with a ring like this instead of petals). I attached my own belt. Plus, I painted the product with green stinking Soviet paint. Eh ... it's a pity, then it was impossible to take a photo on the phone ..!))) When I went out for a walk in the garden, the neighbor was very scared, and my father forbade me to go out into the street with such a igruha, but our family was given 12 acres for melons and potatoes, and so there, when I weeded my plot, dad solemnly removed my 11th green PKK from the bug and I rushed around our factory vegetable gardens. stormed the ravine yeah, I dug out trenches and sat in defense. Eh ... a glorious childhood. I remember

[North wind]

Quote: Baikonur

It seems to me that AEK with balanced automatic is better!
Although Kalash has developed one! (I think that maybe they agreed with the tarters so that the Army would remain with the famous brand! Yes, and it’s already dear to all our military men)

AEK is good, but it is more complex than Kalashnikov could lose because of this. In general, it was said that both machines seem to be accepted

[NEXUS]

Quote: North Wind

AEK is good but it is more complex than Kalashnikov

It’s not so much more complicated. And in reliability it is not inferior to Kalash. And AEK won the first competitive tests. After that, AK-12 was sent for revision.

Quote: North Wind

.A actually it was said that both machines seem to be accepted

Most likely, two machines will be accepted one way or another. The question is in the state order. It’s one thing to stamp machines as cakes for regular units, and the other only for specialists and elite units. The scale is incommensurable. Therefore, the Kalashnikov concern is pushing its brainchild in order to receive an order for production automatic machines for regular parts.

[Assistant]

It’s not so much more complicated, and in reliability it is not inferior to Kalash.

Suddenly, complexity, reliability and accuracy are not the only performance indicators. There is also a guaranteed resource. And with the prototype A-545, the resource of the synchronizing carriage was an order of magnitude less than the resource of all other nodes. For a contender for army weapons, this is a sentence.
How long does tyagomotin last between AK-12 and A-545 - never once did the Kovrovites tell how things are with the synchronizer resource.

[Amurets]

And you and he were in the army under the same conditions as with Kalash, shooting by shaking out sand or water without taking it apart for cleaning and lubrication? The AN-94 could not stand such conditions. I don’t know.

[PSih2097]

Quote: North wind

Quote: Baikonur

It seems to me that AEK with balanced automatic is better!
Although Kalash has developed one! (I think that maybe they agreed with the tarters so that the Army would remain with the famous brand! Yes, and it’s already dear to all our military men)

AEK is good, but it is more complex than Kalashnikov could lose because of this. In general, it was said that both machines seem to be accepted

I beg you, now is not the beginning of the 20th century, when 90% of the population was illiterate ...

[Shuttle]

Quote: Baikonur

It seems to me that AEK with balanced automatic is better!
Although Kalash has developed one! (I think that maybe they agreed with the tarters so that the Army would remain with the famous brand! Yes, and it’s already dear to all our military men)

The brand in this particular case is nothing. Even production capabilities are far from everything.
But practical tests are really everything.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Shuttle

But practical tests are really everything.

I definitely agree with you. A key role should be played by reviews from operating sites.

[Manul]

Quote: Baikonur

It seems to me that AEK with balanced automatic is better!
Although Kalash has developed one! (I think that maybe they agreed with the tarters so that the Army would remain with the famous brand! Yes, and it’s already dear to all our military men)

Or maybe it's enough to argue about which is better - Su or MiG, Mi-28 or Ka-52 ...? For any need to support both manufacturers. The loser well, at least some minimum order must be given.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is necessary to make it simple - to give the opportunity to choose in several units of various branches of the army ... Let them work with him in exercises or somewhere else ... What the soldier prefers in the majority is necessary to put into service !!! And it’s not like with Abakan - they’ve been promoted, but it turned out that not every officer can disassemble and assemble it, that it’s harder and not much better than AK-74 in terms of fire accuracy ... Both assault rifles have a accuracy of 100 15 cm ... And most importantly that it costs several times more expensive ... And finally, make a store out of darkened but TRANSPARENT plastic !!!!!!!!!! It's that simple !!!! And for a soldier it’s convenient and effective ...

[Chiropractor]

Basting on Coke - start over ...
It was said, and on VO it was quoted that BOTH complexes will be included in the "Ratnik". But, apparently, the reduction in budget revenues raised the issue more acutely - "Bolivar cannot bear two" ...

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

darkened but TRANSPARENT plastic

Plastic does not withstand our temperatures, it cracks - the Germans got burnt too, and now they produce metal stores for their HK in northern Europe ...

[War and Peace]

they are not looking for good from good, Kalash is time-tested, and Kovrovets is not so good that he would definitely choose it ...

[Amurets]

Maybe it’s not a topic, but I’ll give examples from the recent past. Before the Second World War, the AVS-36 rifles; SVT-38; SVT-40, DS machine gun were created. They all passed the tests perfectly, until they got into the troops. Complaints, heavy, complicated, unreliable. At the same time, the border troops, snipers, and what else to hide, the Germans and Finns give a very high rating to these weapons. I will not touch on cartridges, other reasons not related to the army. The main reason why the army did not accept these weapons was that it required more careful care, other oils and greases that the petrochemical industry of the USSR could not give. At the landfills and in the industry, either selected Soviet or imported materials were used. The same thing was with capsules for automatic weapons. Who wants to deal with this, there are many books on this subject. Bolotin; History of Soviet small arms and ammunition. Malimon; Domestic assault rifles. Monetchikov; History of the Russian assault rifle. And there are many others. What am I for? And to the fact that it is necessary to check the machines in the troops because changing the system in the army even in peacetime requires billions and the error will be expensive. Therefore, for military tests you just need to arm one platoon with one machine in one company compare others with others under the same conditions. But in fact, everything is squeezed out of small arms and a new breakthrough will only happen when a new munition is created. What are the weapons companies of the world working on now? These are liquid propellants, burning cartridges and much of what is not published.

[serega.fedotov]

Quote: figvam

This lasts the second year. On "Armata" the decision was made quickly.

What is the "second year" !? They have been talking about the new machine gun since the late 80s! And the Abakan project, if my memory serves me right, was closed at 94! And although during this time a lot of small arms were adopted, almost everything did not go into mass production. And in fact, everything except MA and AN turned Kalash!

[Basarev]

Personally, I am generally on the side of the Tula A-91M. Reliability and simplicity are on the level, but at the same time issues with ergonomics are resolved, and most importantly, accuracy is multiple times higher than Kalash.
Yes, and he is beautiful ...

[JACTUS RECTUS]

Video in the topic. Mattresses test our trunks. Well, and as always, M4 is the best.)))))))

[JACTUS RECTUS]

And continued

[JACTUS RECTUS]

In 2013-2015, the modification of AEK-971 under the name "A-545" took part in the competition for a new combined arms machine. In April 2015, the deputy chairman of the collegium of the Military-Industrial Commission announced that the machine would be accepted for service along with the AK-12.

[Tourist]

Quote: JACTUS RECTUS

In 2013-2015, the modification of AEK-971 under the name "A-545" took part in the competition for a new combined arms machine. In April 2015, the deputy chairman of the collegium of the Military-Industrial Commission announced that the machine would be accepted for service along with the AK-12.

So I remember something like that. And here again "Santa Barbara" with the hundredth resurrection of CC is straight.

[Black Colonel]

And what is not written in the article about AEK? As if from the "Kalash" will choose "Kalash".

[Tatarus]

It would be more likely to have already been determined, time is decreasing. The world is bursting at the seams.

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Tatarus

It would be more likely to have already been determined, time is decreasing. The world is bursting at the seams.

What time!? The same war is on the production market, people think about the future and ours are in the forefront there ...... this is the dilemma.

[Hubun]

they haven’t made a decision yet, but they’re already buying, in my opinion everything is clear

[da Vinci]

Dark story.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: da Vinci

Dark story.

It’s you, Sergey, to put it mildly, the story is just dirty. Without at all diminishing the merits of Kalashnikov, however, the AK-12 did not get rid of its own shortcomings. Many AEK colleagues are right to win the contest twice, but as you can see! By the way, in accuracy, accuracy and magnitude of the recoil pulse, the AK-12 is inferior to AEK even after all the modifications.
In a word, someone simply pushed the AK-12 out of some selfish purpose. By the way, when the question of organizing the release arose and the "Kovrovites" were unfoundedly accused of not being able to put AEK on stream, the competition commission was presented with an operating production line built by the "Kovrovites" on their own initiative and at their own expense.
I apologize to my colleagues for some emotionality, but as an infantry officer I don’t understand why weapons with worse performance characteristics are taken into service, to the detriment of the best available.

Something like this. I have the honor.

[Jan Ivanov]

I fully support your opinion and AEK. )

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Yan Ivanov

I fully support your opinion and AEK. )

Thank you, Dear Jan Ivanov, support is always pleasant.

Like so.

[kil 31]

They got it. Everyone wants to push their products. AEK loses on tests, breaks tests again next year, there are garters. So we will not wait for another 20 years.

[Manul]

Quote: keel 31

They got it. Everyone wants to push their products. AEK loses on tests, breaks tests again next year, there are garters. So we will not wait for another 20 years.

It looks like AEK is really a cut above. Maybe it’s time for the Kalashnikovs to completely switch to Saigu? )

dmi.pris (3) SU Today, 18: 38 New
The military are accustomed to the "Kalash", and most likely they will choose it. AEK will be more difficult and more expensive ... Or maybe the manufacturers have already agreed among themselves ..

It is unlikely that they can agree. These are serious grandmothers, a state contract, the meaning of the entire existence of factories. Without government orders, enterprises are doomed.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Manul

It seems that AEK is really a cut above.

Not by a head, but above. The main argument in favor of AEK is that the machine is NEW with good modernization potential, and the AK-12 is a modernization of the same AK-47, which is almost 70 years old. Plus accuracy and accuracy of fire from AEK above. And third, this desire to get away from ossified clichés and formats. Russian weapons should develop, and not stagnate in place, blinded by modernization of good, but outdated weapons.

[Manul]

Quote: NEXUS

Not by a head, but above. The main argument in favor of AEK is that the machine is NEW with good modernization potential, and the AK-12 is a modernization of the same AK-47, which is almost 70 years old. Plus accuracy and accuracy of fire from AEK above. And third, this desire to get away from ossified clichés and formats. Russian weapons should develop, and not stagnate in place, blinded by modernization of good, but outdated weapons.

I absolutely support. Everyone needs an incentive for growth. I saw how people who have everything and don’t bother anything, with that (and with whom) they are given the right to control, through the stump deck, and through the sleeves, create anything and allowing yourself a lot of liberties. But when a roasted rooster pecks, they immediately begin to realize that their power is not eternal and it is time to work, think about people, and, first of all, about the quality of the work they perform. Moreover, Mikhail Timofeevich died - the kingdom of heaven to him, but who remains after him is unclear.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: NEXUS

Not by a head, but above. The main argument in favor of AEK is that the machine is NEW with good modernization potential, and the AK-12 is a modernization of the same AK-47, which is almost 70 years old. Plus accuracy and accuracy of fire from AEK above. And third, this desire to get away from ossified clichés and formats. Russian weapons should develop, and not stagnate in place, blinded by modernization of good, but outdated weapons.

Plus, Dear NEXUS, the recoil momentum is also weaker. In general, your comment is good!

Something like this.

[Izotovp]

And at the same time, there is also an ADS and a new caliber on the way, which can also change the alignment of test results. Soap opera, it would be better to monitor the quality, otherwise the specialists are already on camera.

[satellite24]

so that Kalash was the first - even during the Soviet Union it was not greasy but rolled away

[Manul]

Quote: satelit24

so that Kalash was the first - even during the Soviet Union it was not greasy but rolled away

I look you are a connoisseur of the USSR .. I will be glad to talk with you about this. We look forward to your new revelations.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: keel 31

They got it. Everyone wants to push their products. AEK loses on tests, breaks tests again next year, there are garters. So we will not wait for another 20 years.

Read how they adopted the trilinear, and this is one of the best rifles of the early 20th century.

[dmi.pris1]

The military are accustomed to the "Kalash", and most likely they will choose it. AEK will be more difficult and more expensive ... Or maybe the manufacturers have already agreed among themselves ..

[Signaller]

Scientists think, people think, but really ???? The most reliable is the simplest. If there is an AKM, then some AK-12 why ????. The three-ruler was and decided to extend a bunch. and here is some sort of accuracy above ????. Yes, after the shelling of the artillery, the arms will tremble slightly. Then why the accuracy ??? It would just be pulled into the enemy’s side, sometimes it helps. This is for the special forces — it may be necessary — for the army of conscripts and, in general, for the entire army of signalmen, artillerymen and any other — it is EXPENSIVE and NOT NEEDED, Sometimes a carbine FOR EYES, Well, that’s all.

[Izotovp]

To put it mildly: an interesting point of view! Maybe not to give a carbine, will proletarian cobblestone be easier and more reliable?

[TanakaKenshin]

Something I remembered one very tasty friend with the FAI ...
He at one time fiercely vanged for the fact that the line infantry (the one that is being built in line, as at Borodino) is a mandatory attribute of all full-scale wars, and machine guns and trenches are the prerogative of exclusively special forces.

[Amurets]

Guys! Have you served in the army? Put you in such a situation that rain, dirt can’t be cleaned and you don’t know when you will put it in order? So choose the good old Kalash which will not let you down or AEK which in such conditions has not been tested? I’ll choose Kalash because he knows he won’t let me down. He will prove the same reliability to AEK, Good afternoon! And now there’s a choice of weapons for which you need to spend a lot of money, massive weapons made for the army and not for storage. Therefore, the fear will be wrong. in my opinion, it’s not the elite units to be armed with new weapons but a check in the troops. Check under the same conditions as Kalashnikov. And let's still not forget that the special forces of both the USA and Western Europe prefer Kalashi rather than M-16.My opinion: LET'S WE WILL NOT HURRY. It can be patient a little to choose a really reliable weapon.

[Shurale]

No one has long approached weapons from this point of view, now they are capitalists and they decide from which project Mona will get more dough. Can you imagine how much mona to get one-time when purchasing new equipment when re-planning for a new machine? It’s better to count for a long time, that's why they pull ...

[RED_ICE]

At us, all PMs were replaced by PYs. Such y (((

[Izotovp]

As for the pistols, it’s also not all clear yet and three more models are fighting for the order.

[bunta]

Quote: RED_ICE

PY. Such y (((

[kolskiy99]

PY. The factory workers explained everything: for some reason, the series turned out to be the wrong steel grade, so it dies quickly. And besides the practice of shooting, it requires the practice of eliminating delays

[lexx2038]

The Mosin rifle is an outstanding weapon, Kalash is also a legendary machine gun, but you need to go ahead, if you have come up with weapons with the best TTX, you need to implement it, and what's more expensive, because this is a trend, new, more advanced types of weapons are always more expensive. Compare a plane from WWII and modern, tens of thousands of times more expensive, but it’s better.

[Bekas1967]

The opinion of the amateur: 7,62 !!!! AND ONLY !!! PUNCHES EVERYTHING, turns off completely, range, stability of a bullet flight ... For the Middle East, you can’t imagine any better. And the main threat now is from there.

[Izotovp]

There are drawbacks: the weight of the BC, the probability of defeat from unstable positions ... Although I agree, the cartridge has a good and modernization potential for it.

[Amurets]

Uncle Vasya said: "There will be a machine gun and cartridges, there will be food" and instead of dry airborne troops took ammunition, and the caliber did not play a role. But they love 7,62.

[bunta]

Not only have the weapon been spoiled, it is also being pushed into "armament". Compradors
My opinion is that the AK-12 is not suitable for delivery to the troops. As well as the much-hyped "modernization" of the AK-74M. This is the result of the complete defeat of Izhmash from the design to its production part.
Thieves and crooks got hold of the plundered and destroyed production, along with a brand with several billion dollars of goodwill. Under it, they received state loans for "development". And since loans have to be given away and still have to go to Courchevel and the Bahamas, they are trying to break through this crap called ak-12 and "modernization kit" by all means.

[2s1122]

AEK had a run-in for information that in a short burst of three shots three go in one pile, and the fact that it is more difficult for that period of time that they serve is generally difficult to learn.

[Aleksey_K]

“The tests of the Kalashnikov AK-12 automaton are so far successful,” he noted. - I hope that he will be selected as the main equipment for the "Warrior". "

Meanwhile, in April, Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission Oleg Bochkarev told reporters that the military department had already decided to purchase the AK-12, and he would start entering the troops in 2016 after experimental military operation.

The tests have not yet ended, but everything has already been decided. And where is the comparison with the Kovrov machine gun? It seems corruption is winning again. It would be nice if the Russian Prosecutor's Office read this comment of mine.

[Proxor_P]

Special Forces, Airborne Forces and others - at the discretion of the authorities - parts: clearly AEK. Kovrovets is not overwhelming, but still significantly better. But for conscripts, maybe motorized infantry - AK-12.

[infantryman2020]

In such reasoning, and they often sound, there is a vicious thought.
A special weapon system for the MTR is acceptable and practiced in the world.
At the same time, the Airborne Forces is a winged infantry, just like the sea infantry. And they should have a small arms system as in conventional infantry. That is standard. No need to complicate.

[Kleon]

You need to adopt two automatic weapons. AK-12 for hand-to-hand combat, and for small arms AEK.

[Michael_59]

It's already embarrassing to just read it again and again.

"Kalashnikov". The former glory of the battle cannot be taken. Calm down already. Let others work as well.

[Wolka]

nevertheless, my preferences are on the side of the Kovrovites — the Koksharov automaton (AEK)

[Shurale]

They will accept Kalash, it’s clear to everyone, AEK will be able to accept only if these guys buy everything, and they obviously don’t have money flow, although there is nothing impossible, there is a precedent for Sukhoi ...

[DesToeR]

Quote: kleon

You need to adopt two automatic weapons. AK-12 for hand-to-hand combat, and for small arms AEK.

And what is the meaning of two machines? Accept one for all, but in different versions, with unification of the main details of at least 70%. The larger the series, the cheaper each sample. As for the cost - count how many new machines you can buy at the price of one T-50, or 10 pcs. Armata tanks. And armed with a new machine hundreds of thousands of fighters, if not millions. Another question, why the hell do you need a new machine for old cartridges? What is it much more effective than AK-74M?

[kplayer]

AEK Special Forces, Airborne Forces, Marines, AK - in regular units? - some kind of demagogy, one might think the elite units belong to certain irregular formations. Usually, the following is practiced, the rifle units are directly equipped with the best, here the motorized rifle, SPN, airborne and naval infantry, but the combat, rear and technical support units, i.e. artillery, mortar, anti-aircraft, engineer-sapper, anti-aircraft, communications, etc., are armed with simplified weapons. Although, it is unlikely that the anti-terror assault units and the reconnaissance and sabotage divisions of the Special Forces and military intelligence in particular will part with the standard AKs (incl. 7,62 mm AKM / AK-103), supplemented by silent weapons (9x39 mm).