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So, Russia is still dragged into the war. Left to win

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No more than a statement of fact. Russia was dragged into the war. But not where it was planned and not in this perspective, as we would like.




The negative attitude of the United States on this issue is understandable, since the States were doing something there, which was somewhat like fighting ISIS, but they did it, as usual, purely in their gates. The emergence of such a competitor as Russia, of course, did not cause any optimism to anyone.

I mean the list of those to whom the ISIL troubles play into their hands. That is, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan. Who finances ISIL and has from the flow of "black" oil and other resources coming from the territories controlled by this gang.

Yes, the United States is not included. But even so it is clear that our "partners" are in the same cohort. There is no other explanation for the vague swarming of American warriors in that region. Of course, if the budget allows you to organize the 4 departure of the F-22 aircraft and send fighters to the other side — yes, please. Who will ban?

Actually, Assad and the UN should have banned it, but who will go against the main “peacemakers” of our time?

And so ours appeared in Syria.

And on this occasion I would like to say a few words.

1. For Syria, it is necessary to fight. Still, the last ally in the region, and all that. Moreover, the most acceptable option has been chosen for this - war from the air and the supply of weapons. Moreover, it is possible to deliver in debt, Assad is not a rogue of some kind, there are enough resources to pay in case of success.

Well, the rest will follow - the base and oil and gas contracts. The contracts, by the way, were made for billions of dollars, but because of the war, almost everything was ruined.

2. Syria - it is not as far as it may seem. About 600 km to our southern borders. Plus, we have no visa regime with Turkey. That is, there is no border. And all the blackness of igilskaya will be able to roll itself quite well to us. Moreover, the Turks will not interfere with this. They have their own dances.

Already today, the fact that not one hundred idiots who want to fight for the bright ideals of ISIS has fallen into Syria has come to our territory. And what about tomorrow? Home come ideas to share?

It’s quite normal to let yourself stay there under our bombs and rockets. Together with ideas. It is easier and cheaper than later in fact to catch them, and then also to keep them in prisons.

3. Air operations against ISIS are still not a fully-fledged war. This is a war with the Papuans. Yes, there are many of them, but they have no normal air defense. And if someone good "from there" and equip - it is also necessary to teach the proper use. So our pilots will get combat experience and work out real combat use without much risk.

And the most important thing is that they will reduce the number of people who want to dig a few. And with all my heart I wish them that this amount would be an order of magnitude greater than what the Americans were able to debit. If you could, of course. There are certain doubts about this.

Yes, there is, of course, and MANPADS. But he was a witness when the pilot of the most advanced ukroVVS on the Su-25 rather easily walked away from three missiles. From the fourth and fifth, however, could not, but this is another aspect. For there was nothing alone to go where there can be grabbed so many compliments.

When it comes to the systematic use of assault and bomber aviation in proper quantities and with normal working out - this is for you, excuse me, to show off not one in Izvarino.

4. The political aspect. In contrast to the situation in the same Crimea, in Syria, our legitimate acting president asked our military assistance. In contrast, by the way, from the Americans, whom no one called, but who themselves came to the banquet. And having fun for fun, however, with zero result.

In Crimea, our president was forced to send troops to protect people from the Nazi evil. Here he simply agreed, at the request of his colleague. And our Federation Council approved such assistance. Unanimously. It is clear that this had very much to the taste, but alas.

5. Military aspect. A year and a half ago, I spoke very sharply about the very possibility of introducing our troops into the territory of Ukraine. Well, or New Russia. And in the case of a discussion of the ground participation of our troops in Syria, I would also yell as a victim.

And in such a plan - indeed, full approval and understanding. What, in fact, I wish for everyone else. Why not poke the fanatics of the lowest sense from the air? By ensuring the safety of our pilots, especially "in case of anything."

I am quite normal with Muslims. They are different, yes. But living side by side with them is quite possible. We live after all? But when such a scum comes out, which scoffs not even at the very essence of religion, but hides behind it, creating lawlessness, destroying everything around that it does not like - sorry.

Many of my friends, honor and honor to them, not so long ago, drove around the Caucasus mountains like - both imported and domestic bottling. And they successfully sent the main mass to the right place - for dismantling to the Most High.

If I had my way, I would have given Assad the regiment “Buratin”. And he would send five instructors for training. "Drying" is, of course, great, but where would you look for these igilovtsy after the "Buratino" volley? Would run towards Europe, overtaking their jeeps. Well, let Europe itself understand. Not our problems.

Our problems are just beginning. But really, since we were forced to go to war, we can only win. And to wish success and lack of loss to those of our soldiers who entered this war.
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 1 October 2015 06: 14
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    Air operations against ISIS are after all not quite a full-fledged war... And in the case of a discussion of the ground participation of our troops in Syria, I would also yell as a victim.


    As I understand it, we will destroy ISIS not only with air strikes.



    In Syria, heavy rocket launchers of the BM-30 “Smerch” type were observed near the settlement of Gerdan (Al-Qerdaha) in the North of Syria.

    On the published photo of the representative of the Syrian armed forces next to the 9T234-2 transport-charging vehicle, the 9A52-2 and 300-mm launcher with rocket launchers from the BM-30 9-58 rocket launcher system
    1. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 1 October 2015 06: 18
      +7
      Something the view in the photo is not very similar to Syria! ..
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 1 October 2015 06: 24
        81
        So, Russia was dragged into the war.
        Let me disagree with the novel, we didn’t drag it in, we ourselves decided, the choice is not great, tomorrow ISIS can knock on our doors.
        1. Krasmash
          Krasmash 1 October 2015 06: 43
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          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          ISIS may knock on our doors tomorrow.

          Only ours?
          I get the impression that those interested in the destruction of the igil, as always, were waiting for exactly when Russia would begin to sausage the bandos. But it’s normal to solve the general problem with our hands.
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 1 October 2015 07: 07
            36
            Hello Krasmash!
            I support your thought. On my own I will add that after success in Syria, guaranteed (!) Requests for help and assistance will increase literally from everywhere.
            The factor of "fair" power, it is.
            Yes, and if we recall our history in detail and in detail, then very many in the world owe us their statehood, including the same states, albeit indirectly.
            Well, if we solve problems, then we will dictate the rules!

            The centers of power have not changed in fact (classical analysis from a historical perspective) since the bipolar world, only props, in the form of new states (which these two centers of power created) - there are more irritants who think (naive!) That they are the subjects of geopolitics.
            1. Krasmash
              Krasmash 1 October 2015 07: 17
              +7
              Good afternoon, fellow countryman.
              The head of the Israeli Haganate Benya came to us in order to draw the valiant RF Armed Forces into a showdown for the place of his warriors.
              1. SibSlavRus
                SibSlavRus 1 October 2015 07: 32
                +6
                However, yes, the "chosen by God" promising "smut" have removed a lot from the "agenda". Also, somehow to wriggle out (this is at the genetic level) and will be among the beneficiaries.
                I won’t be surprised if our contingent in the UN peacekeeping mission wants to see it later in the Golan Heights.
                1. Krasmash
                  Krasmash 1 October 2015 07: 38
                  12
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  However, yes, the "chosen by God" promising "smut" have removed a lot from the "agenda". Also, somehow to wriggle out (this is at the genetic level) and will be among the beneficiaries.

                  Let them pour out lava for such tremendous joy or customize something useful. Yes, and in general it’s time to compile a price list for the services rendered. Che is the Russian side to solve all issues for free.
                  1. severniy
                    severniy 1 October 2015 09: 10
                    23
                    As I understand it, we will destroy ISIS not only with air strikes.

                    Duc and sailors in the Mediterranean stretched ... they, too, maybe not empty-handed ...
                    denyuzhki current would be enough for us to stretch this strap .., I hope the GDP rate with a loan knocked out ...
                    1. Baikonur
                      Baikonur 1 October 2015 10: 37
                      +5
                      Everything is surely calculated. and even with a margin! And even taking into account the expansion of the scale of warriors! (e.g. Afghan Taliban are already knocking on the door of Tajikistan)
                      1. edge
                        edge 1 October 2015 15: 22
                        +3
                        Quote: Baikonur
                        Everything is surely calculated. and even with a margin! And even taking into account the expansion of the scale of warriors!

                        -Sailing trip has begun .....
                    2. Djubal
                      Djubal 1 October 2015 15: 56
                      12
                      Quote: severniy
                      I hope GDP debit with a loan knocked out.

                      gouging the oil wells of the igil, from which they sell oil at dumping prices, and more expensive oil will pay back more than any costs of the operation
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 2 October 2015 07: 15
                        +3
                        Quote: Djubal
                        Quote: severniy
                        I hope GDP debit with a loan knocked out.

                        gouging the oil wells of the igil, from which they sell oil at dumping prices, and more expensive oil will pay back more than any costs of the operation

                        Igilovskaya oil makes up 0.02% of world production, does not play the piano at world prices at all.
                    3. Starley from the south
                      Starley from the south 2 October 2015 01: 01
                      0
                      And you noticed that the Chinese aircraft carrier also approached the coast of Syria. I wonder what will be the role of China?
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 2 October 2015 07: 15
                        -2
                        Quote: Starley from the South
                        And you noticed that the Chinese aircraft carrier also approached the coast of Syria. I wonder what will be the role of China?

                        None and the aircraft carrier is not going anywhere
                  2. lukewarm
                    lukewarm 1 October 2015 12: 00
                    +5
                    Quote: Krasmash
                    lave sprinkled

                    not from those you expect. Gesheft, Holocaust, Gesheft through the Holocaust.
                2. BMW
                  BMW 1 October 2015 08: 36
                  +8
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  , for the "chosen by God" promising "smut" a lot has been removed from the "agenda". Still and somehow twist


                  They won’t dodge, but we ourselves let them come out clean, and even harnessed for them.
                3. edge
                  edge 1 October 2015 15: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  However, yes, the "chosen by God" promising people have removed a lot from the "agenda"

                  oh, it’s hardly known that the war 3,0 was generated by them ... as well as 1.0-2,0. Putin is not simple, and not d ... to-not to see fussing bulldogs under the carpet.
              2. Corsair
                Corsair 1 October 2015 09: 35
                +5
                Quote: Krasmash
                The head of the Israeli Haganate Benya came to us in order to draw the valiant RF Armed Forces into a showdown for the place of his warriors.

                laughing And where is the guarantee that after the bombing and tornadoes the wild tribes will not run towards the promised land or towards the Saudis? Benya came to talk for life, and they say do not touch my eagles if they accidentally fly, and don’t drive this rabble in our direction, please
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 1 October 2015 12: 53
                  +8
                  Quote: Corsair
                  And where is the guarantee that after the bombings and tornadoes the wild tribes will not run towards the promised land

                  They will not attack Israel unless they only run there for permanent residence smile
                  Defense Secretary Admitted Israel Helps Syrian Rebels
                  Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon says Israel has provided humanitarian aid to rebels in Syria in recent months
                  http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/06/29/-ministr-oboroni-priznal--chto-
                  izrail-pomogaet-siriyskim-povstancam /

                  But to "drive" them towards Israel is a very good solution: it is necessary to push the terrorists to the border with Israel and then let the Jews "think" what to do, let them in or fight with them.
                2. Krasmash
                  Krasmash 1 October 2015 15: 53
                  +7
                  Quote: Corsair
                  And where is the guarantee that after the bombing and tornadoes the wild tribes will not run towards the promised land?

                  The panic has already reached a critical point!
              3. lukewarm
                lukewarm 1 October 2015 11: 59
                +2
                And why are they now actually going to fight against us? Here is a reference.
                http://kanchukov-sa.livejournal.com/5493942.html
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                2. SOKOL777
                  SOKOL777 1 October 2015 23: 54
                  0
                  Quote: unwillingly
                  actually going to fight against us


                  Israel now needs to seriously think about itself, with whom they are and how it will end.
                  What happens if ISIS comes to the Promised Land?
            2. SibSlavRus
              SibSlavRus 1 October 2015 08: 00
              20
              The Americans were again NOT surprised. As it usually happened in history, on the example of World Wars I and II, at the moment of manifestation of strength and guaranteed calculated success, they strive (their rhetoric of the last time confirms) to enter (or "cling to", finding a lot of vague excuses for their policy) into the "camp of winners" ... Predictable scum, however.
              1. Krasmash
                Krasmash 1 October 2015 08: 20
                -5
                Quote: SibSlavRus
                As it usually happened in history, on the example of World Wars I and II, at the moment of manifestation of strength and guaranteed calculated success, they strive (their rhetoric of the last time confirms) to enter (or "cling to", finding a lot of vague excuses for their policy) into the "camp of winners" ... Predictable scum, however.

                But there is no warrior and destruction on their territory, the civilian population does not die, they always come out with the greatest acquisitions. A fine example of how to act. And they don’t bother with any justice, truth and other bullshit like humanity.
                1. Seryoga DV
                  Seryoga DV 1 October 2015 08: 44
                  +7
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  And do not bother with all justice, truth and other bullshit like humanity.


                  what then will distinguish us from our striped "friends"?
                  1. Krasmash
                    Krasmash 1 October 2015 08: 49
                    +2
                    Quote: Seryoga DV
                    Quote: Krasmash
                    And do not bother with all justice, truth and other bullshit like humanity.


                    what then will distinguish us from our striped "friends"?

                    I note that not us, that is, the people will be distinguished, but the ruling class. Everything will be quiet, peaceful and calm.
                2. 2С5
                  2С5 1 October 2015 14: 10
                  +2
                  ... Shurik, this is not our method negative
                3. KaPToC
                  KaPToC 3 October 2015 19: 09
                  0
                  Quote: Krasmash
                  But there is no warrior and destruction on their territory, the civilian population does not die, they always come out with the largest acquisitions.

                  An invaluable military experience will be gained by the one who fights, and not the one who "does not die"; in the future, experience will outweigh the quantitative and technical superiority of the enemy.
              2. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 1 October 2015 10: 55
                +2
                This pricking on their part should be carefully avoided in the case of Syria. And in the future.
              3. Lena Alena
                Lena Alena 1 October 2015 19: 30
                +1
                They have already adhered to. In Obamka's speech there are words like this: "A coalition led by the United States."
            3. Fin
              Fin 1 October 2015 08: 46
              +7
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              On my own I will add that after success in Syria, it is guaranteed (!)

              Do not throw caps in advance. ISIS from Syria with Assad’s army will be knocked out, squeezed back to Iraq, and what to do with the so-called the opposition? She is from the North and South ... Soon partners will help them with MANPADS. If you only try to block supplies, but bomb the towers, you see, they will run away themselves.
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 1 October 2015 09: 04
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                Quote: Fin
                , and what to do with the so-called the opposition? She is from the North and South ...

                And here you have to act the American way - bomb them "by mistake".
                1. 2С5
                  2С5 1 October 2015 14: 16
                  +4
                  ... why then by mistake? Purposefully and reasonably necessary! Are we aggressors or what? And how many slops in our direction will fly already arithmetically it doesn’t matter, to go and crush all these moderate and not very definitively and specifically, then we will sort it out, unless of course someone dares to blather ... the winners are not judged wink
            4. Docent1984
              Docent1984 1 October 2015 15: 25
              0
              including the same states, albeit indirectly.


              Yes, not a fig to myself "indirectly")
            5. Lenin
              Lenin 1 October 2015 22: 25
              +1
              It is possible and necessary to help, at the same time we will show and test our weapons in a real battle. Only let those who ask pay for our help, we are not the Russians who should finance everything from their own pockets. The whole world pays the Americans, so they are everywhere and "help". soldier
            6. atalef
              atalef 2 October 2015 07: 14
              -1
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              . On my own I will add that after success in Syria, guaranteed (!) Requests for help and assistance will increase literally from everywhere.

              about success in Syria - take your time.
              This is just the beginning. I would say no start.
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              Yes, and if we recall our history in detail and in detail, then very many in the world owe us their statehood, including the same states, albeit indirectly.

              How things are changing rapidly, and the States must, and of course Israel and half the human race.
              But what about New Russia?
              And the news about her is already silent

              The fact that Russia entered Syria is good, in all respects.


              Quote: SibSlavRus
              However, yes, the "chosen by God" promising "smut" have removed a lot from the "agenda".

              Yes, we do not have so many of them, and even more so with Syria.
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              I won’t be surprised if our contingent in the UN peacekeeping mission wants to see the Golan Heights later

              Yes, to health.
              From the Syrian part of the Golan - even tomorrow. hi
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 3 October 2015 19: 14
                -1
                Quote: atalef
                The fact that Russia entered Syria is good, in all respects.

                About "climbed" - it is loudly said, a dozen planes are not an invading army.
          2. Aljavad
            Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 13
            +1
            I get the impression that those interested in the destruction of the igil, as always, were waiting for exactly when Russia would begin to sausage the bandos. But it’s normal to solve the general problem with our hands.


            OK-OK! The real kid is not bad at helping the weak. You just need to grow wiser and keep your interest.
          3. ochakow703
            ochakow703 2 October 2015 03: 01
            +1
            So there is no one else. I mean, the rest are playing speckled, and Russia has taken a clean deck. Geyropa, she can only tease, and it’s painful for Amers to chop their own, and their plans are completely different. Arabian princes, they can only buy weapons, so, for a pristine. The Iranians have not yet gained a level of greyhound, and the leash is short. They can quickly and quickly pull up to the leg. The Chinese could actively join the coalition, but this Chinese sophistication ... they are on their own mind. We, most importantly, do everything quickly and efficiently, do not stick there. Otherwise, many partners will applaud while standing.
          4. KaPToC
            KaPToC 3 October 2015 19: 05
            0
            Quote: Krasmash
            Only ours?

            The situation when ISIS is knocking on the door of the United States will mean that Russia is no longer in nature, so we cannot wait for ISIS to knock on the door of its creator.
        2. kashtak
          kashtak 1 October 2015 07: 36
          +4
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          the choice is not great, tomorrow ISIS can knock on our doors.

          yes, there was no choice. the only question was where and when. but now the most difficult part will begin, the chorus on the theme "Russia is also an aggressor".
          1. 0255
            0255 1 October 2015 10: 46
            +5
            Quote: kashtak
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            the choice is not great, tomorrow ISIS can knock on our doors.

            yes, there was no choice. the only question was where and when. but now the most difficult part will begin, the chorus on the theme "Russia is also an aggressor".

            Go to the censor, there are many comments about how the bloody dictator Putin helps the bloody dictator Assad to bomb civilians.
            1. Boatsman_Palych
              Boatsman_Palych 1 October 2015 12: 33
              +9
              For you authoritative opinion maydanutyh tire worshipers?
            2. satris
              satris 1 October 2015 12: 48
              +1
              "bloody civilians"
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 1 October 2015 10: 16
          13
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Let me disagree with the novel, we didn’t drag it in, we ourselves decided, the choice is not great, tomorrow ISIS can knock on our doors.

          Exactly so. But there is one more point that many do not notice. On 4,5 of the year Americans as part of their coalition mocked ISIS, pretending to be at war. Now Russia, having created a coalition, will begin to distribute pendels to militants and eventually the Syrian army, with the support of Russian aviation and specialists will be buried by an Amerian project called ISIS. And in light of this, the whole world will see a) on whose side the truth is and we, b) Russian weapons and military are a cut above the American commandos and c) Russia's authority will rise in the world to a level to which the Anglo-Saxons how to china pose gardener crawl.
          1. Stena
            Stena 1 October 2015 12: 07
            +9
            Quote: NEXUS
            Now Russia, having created a coalition, will begin to distribute pendels to militants and eventually the Syrian army, with the support of Russian aviation and specialists, will bury the Amer project called ISIS, and in light of this, the whole world will see a) on whose side are we and b) Russian weapons and the military is a cut above the American commandos and c) the authority of Russia will rise in the world to a level to which the Anglo-Saxons, as far as China, in a pose of a gardener crawl.

            Tell me, and if a quick victorious operation does not work out, then what about? In such an operation, first and foremost, real, not virtual, benefits should stand first - forward contracts with preferences for our companies, full cost recovery, etc. Otherwise, it will be like under the USSR - a lot of money to support indistinct regimes with their subsequent cancellation (of course - money, not regimes) ...
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 1 October 2015 13: 20
              +7
              Quote: Stena
              Tell me, and if a quick victorious operation does not work out, then what about?

              And it won’t work out. 200 of thousands of thugs all over the Middle East cannot be grinded overnight unless the Voivode’s entire kitchen is covered. But it’s true, there is nothing to think about.
              Quote: Stena
              With such an operation, in the first place, real, not virtual, benefits should still be

              And the influence in the Middle East, where most of the oil and gas is also virtually everything? And the fact that US influence in this region is being cut off and the myth of the invincibility of the Amer’s army is being undermined, and the fact that half of the Middle East hastily buys Russian weapons is also not a benefit?
              1. Stena
                Stena 1 October 2015 14: 35
                +5
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the influence in the Middle East, where most of the oil and gas is also virtually all

                Middle East - for sale. Whoever offers more will have influence. At the same time, you must observe your own real interests, don’t you? How is this influence measured? So the USSR was full of this influence - at least pour it over it, and money - zero - we still forgive debts ...
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the fact that US influence in this region is being cut and the myth of the invincibility of the Amer’s army is being undermined

                In the sense? There are no invincible armies. There are armies that fulfill the goal, and there are that that do not. Goals must be set - real. But dispelling myths is not a realistic goal. New myths will be created. From this, it’s neither hot nor cold for us.
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the fact that half of the Middle East hastily buys Russian weapons is also not a benefit

                It’s for sure - it’s buying. Only - on credit, mainly. And then loans - they say goodbye somewhere. An ordinary Russian from such a trade - it would be better if it was not ...
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 1 October 2015 15: 00
                  +4
                  Quote: Stena
                  Middle East - for sale. Whoever offers more will have influence.

                  You state everything correctly, only the world has changed a little since the times of the USSR, don’t you think? There are allies, there are doubters and there are opponents. But at the same time, Assad did not merge, Iran is looking for our alliance and the application for entry into the BRICS confirms this. It's a little different, the world politics is changing with it.
                  Quote: Stena
                  There are armies that fulfill the goal, and there are that that do not.

                  Name at least one war where the U.S. army triumphs in the past and this century. There are raids in order to ruin and remove an unwanted ruler, but this does not add to this authority. If the Amer has not been used to before, now he frankly hates most of the world and will soon when presenting a passport, the United States will be beaten in the face.
                  Quote: Stena
                  New myths will be created. From this, it’s neither hot nor cold for us.

                  Yes you? You like it so much that the Amerian monkey trumpets the whole world, that Russia is an evil empire, or that most of the youth in Japan believe that it was the USSR who dropped a bomb on Hiroshima? I can give a lot of examples of these myths, but is it not time just wash yourself, but in fact show who is XU.
                  Quote: Stena
                  Only - on credit, mainly. And then loans - they say goodbye somewhere.

                  You’ve already calculated everything and predicted that I’m watching ... more carefully with the prophecies. They do not lead to anything good.
                  Best regards hi
                  1. Stena
                    Stena 1 October 2015 16: 20
                    +3
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Name at least one war where the U.S. army triumphs in the past and this century. There are raids in order to ruin and remove an unwanted ruler, but this does not add to this authority. If the Amer has not been used to before, now he frankly hates most of the world and will soon when presenting a passport, the United States will be beaten in the face.

                    I won’t talk about victories - I’ll say that the goals they set are fulfilling. For victories and defeats, this may have nothing to do with it at all. Economically, they got what they wanted - yes. Are their goals fulfilled? Yes. It’s not necessary to kneel an adversary in a war. Goals achieved - means the army - is effective. Generally - why are we talking about Americans. We should be interested in ours. What is our immediate task in Syria? Only real? Probably interruption of oil smuggling. That is why our troops can cope with this. And the total destruction of terrorists is unlikely. All one thing - you will not kill ...
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Yes you? You like it so much that the Amerian monkey trumpets the whole world, that Russia is an evil empire, or that most of the youth in Japan believe that it was the USSR who dropped a bomb on Hiroshima? I can give a lot of examples of these myths, but is it not time just wash yourself, but in fact show who is XU.

                    I personally don’t like it. But on the other hand, it’s violet to me. I don’t give a damn what the Japanese people think in their masses - subject to mutually beneficial trade. It is necessary to prove not to the whole world, but to yourself, first of all. You will respect yourself - others will respect.
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    You’ve already calculated everything and predicted that I’m watching ... more carefully with the prophecies. They do not lead to anything good.

                    This is a look into our common history. I hope that now it will be different. Regards, AKC.
                  2. Vyacheslav 64
                    Vyacheslav 64 2 October 2015 03: 33
                    +1
                    The fact of the matter is that the Americans in the two worlds became the winners almost without fighting and took all the bonuses from the two for themselves, and we put in how many people and resources, and became the winners only in one. No wonder they say "Worse than a war with the Anglo-Saxons can only be friendship with the Anglo-Saxons"! So we need to think over everything well, so that resources are not scattered and the victory is not slammed.
                2. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 2 October 2015 01: 19
                  0
                  You can’t measure everything with momentary benefit.
                  Quote: Stena
                  Middle East - for sale.
                  Not everyone in the Middle East is corrupt. And in the event of significant success in the war against ISIS, our authority will be raised all over the world. except for our "partners". Over time, this will bring new contracts and new benefits in monetary terms.
              2. atalef
                atalef 2 October 2015 07: 20
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the influence in the Middle East, where most of the oil and gas is also virtually everything?

                And what effect will Russian aviation have on the level of oil production in Saudi Arabia? Iraq or Iran?
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the fact that US influence in this region is being cut back and the myth of the invincibility of the Amer’s army is being undermined?

                Arabs hate everyone - amers. Russia, each other.
                it also does not matter, especially when it comes to myths.
                Speaking of myths - while the Russian Air Force has been working in Syria for 2 days.
                It’s easy to enter the war and no one knows how and how to get out of it.
                Quote: NEXUS
                And the fact that half of the Middle East hastily buys Russian weapons is also not a benefit?

                Half is who?
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 2 October 2015 08: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  And what effect will Russian aviation have on the level of oil production in Saudi Arabia? Iraq or Iran?

                  Aviation may be insignificant, but suppose for a moment that Iran receives the BAL and BASTION coastal complexes, as well as the S-300 / 350 or S-400 air defense systems and put them near the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, and I will see how the Saudis will oil transported to Europe and America.
                  And China is building an alternative channel for oil exports.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 2 October 2015 17: 06
                    -1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: atalef
                    And what effect will Russian aviation have on the level of oil production in Saudi Arabia? Iraq or Iran?

                    Aviation may be insignificant, but suppose for a moment that Iran receives the BAL and BASTION coastal complexes, as well as the S-300 / 350 or S-400 air defense systems and put them near the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, and I will see how the Saudis will oil transported to Europe and America.
                    And China is building an alternative channel for oil exports.

                    And Iran, is about to fight with Saudi Arabia?
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 2 October 2015 20: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      And Iran, is about to fight with Saudi Arabia?

                      What place, dear Iran’s war with the Saudis? Iran wants its own piece of oil cake, and to pump and sell oil at a loss to itself, for the sake of the interests of the starry stripy macaque ... fool
            2. 2С5
              2С5 1 October 2015 14: 21
              +1
              ... and what money is credibility worth? And our calm and confidence that IG will not appear in your region tomorrow? Ah !?
              1. Stena
                Stena 1 October 2015 14: 45
                +8
                Quote: 2C5
                and how much money is credibility

                It doesn’t cost anyone if it is confirmed by anything ... Moreover, it must be confirmed in each case. And in such cases - you will not save enough specialists to confirm ...
                Quote: 2C5
                our peace of mind and confidence that the IG will not appear in your region tomorrow

                Stop writing this nonsense. We have - and the GRU is, and the army is combat-ready and the FSB and other services with special. experience, equipment and specialists. We are up to IS - as to Beijing - on foot ...
                If you are afraid of everything, then you must go to the toilet at night with protection ...
                First of all, you still need to solve your problems. We have a self-sufficient country. Do not need anything from anyone. You have to deal with yours first.
                They got into Syria - for one reason only - the price of oil is too low. Now the budget of the Russian Federation is being filled in largely thanks to oil and gas sales. At the same time, oil production exceeds demand. We do not need to climb into Syria, but develop our own production and increase the demand (domestic) for our products and services. Otherwise, we will always sit on oil and other needles ...
                1. Aljavad
                  Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 35
                  0
                  They got into Syria - for one reason only - the price of oil is too low.

                  Do not smash the moura! Syrian oil’s market share is negligible. This is not Kuwait or Qatar. Especially in war.
                  And to be able not to interrupt the smuggling of oil - you have to be a sucker.
                  1. Stena
                    Stena 1 October 2015 15: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: Aljavad
                    Do not smash the moura!

                    In what specific place - here, in your opinion, is mura? That they are trying to stop the smuggling of oil and gas and selling it at dumping prices? Or is it necessary to stimulate domestic demand and develop our own production?
                2. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 2 October 2015 01: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: Stena
                  We have - and the GRU is, and the army is combat-ready and the FSB and other services with special. experience, equipment and specialists. We are up to IS - as to Beijing - on foot ...
                  If you are afraid of everything, then you must go to the toilet at night with protection ...

                  Are you really that? You don’t understand that all this shusher is easier and cheaper, speaking in your language what you can touch, will touch on there, in Syria, than to catch one by one here?
                3. atalef
                  atalef 2 October 2015 07: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Stena
                  They got into Syria - for one reason only - the price of oil is too low. Now the budget of the Russian Federation is filled in large part thanks to oil and gas sales

                  Of course, this is not the reason.
                  Bargaining for the law in the world, Assad is the last lever of Russia's influence on the BV and to divert attention from Novorossia, so I would name the reasons.
                  1. Stena
                    Stena 2 October 2015 20: 28
                    0
                    Yes you are right. I just read that the idea is to break the isolation of Russia. https://news.mail.ru/politics/23507145/?frommail=1
            3. Aljavad
              Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 25
              +4
              Tell me, and if a quick victorious operation does not work out, then what about? In such an operation, first and foremost, real, not virtual, benefits should stand first - forward contracts with preferences for our companies, full cost recovery, etc. Otherwise, it will be like under the USSR - a lot of money to support indistinct regimes with their subsequent cancellation (of course - money, not regimes) ...


              1. quick operation will not work. The desert is big.
              2. about money. Oil and gas there are already practically ours. (Russia-24 laid out in detail). There will be peace and stability - there will be reparation.
              3. We are not talking about supporting the regime - we are preventing the death and collapse of the B. Vostok countries.
              A funny new term "re-establishment of states" flashed across. So Russia is the FOUNDER of these states. This is a historic chance. Letting go of sin.
              1. Stena
                Stena 1 October 2015 16: 03
                +2
                Quote: Aljavad
                about money. Oil and gas there are already practically ours. (Russia-24 laid out in detail). There will be peace and stability - there will be reparation.

                Here is a joker! Yeah - everything is ours ... And before that, everything was in Iran, Cuba, Vietnam, Egypt (during the Soviet era) ... The money was thrown in there, and the exhaust was zero. You will invest even more, and then it does not matter whether Assad will hold out or not - there will be no money in the near future. If you hold on, you will have to get involved in the construction and reconstruction of Syria, and if not, then the new authorities did not sign any contracts with us. Therefore - now it is money - to "nowhere" when we need it inside the country. If you want to argue - let's already give the confirmed figures - how much money was deposited, how much was received, how much was forgiven. Otherwise, we have, so - trembling ...
              2. atalef
                atalef 2 October 2015 07: 28
                +1
                Quote: Aljavad
                1. quick operation will not work. The desert is big.

                Of course it won’t work, only there’s not a desert - they fight in cities
                Quote: Aljavad
                2. about money. Oil and gas there are already practically ours. (Russia-24 laid out in detail). There will be peace and stability - there will be reparation.

                oil and gas (its crumbs in Syria) and the fact that he is Russian is generally ridiculous. mk Russia has already driven so many dibs into Syria - no oil and gas is enough
                Quote: Aljavad
                . We are not talking about supporting the regime - we are preventing the death and collapse of the B. Vostok countries.

                COUNTRIES?
                Syria - you mean. so Syria will collapse with or without Russia.
                Alawites will not be able to keep 70% of the country's Sunni population. And if (suppose) Assad of the type won, then it will be necessary to hold elections all the same, and in them 10% of the Alawite population does not shine - that's why either the Alawite enclave, or dictatorship and civil war, or - elections and civil war, or simple and the logical option - Syria will break up.
            4. KaPToC
              KaPToC 3 October 2015 19: 17
              -1
              Quote: Stena
              In such an operation, first and foremost, real, not virtual, benefits should stand first - forward contracts with preferences for our companies, full cost recovery, etc. Otherwise, it will be like under the USSR - a lot of money to support slurred regimes with their subsequent cancellation

              That is, the experience of Afghanistan does not teach you anything? If we leave Syria - we will fight again in the Caucasus, we leave Ukraine - we will fight in Rostov, the war will not end anyway, the question is in what territories it will take place.
          2. SokolfromRussia
            SokolfromRussia 1 October 2015 13: 10
            0
            You are somewhat wrong, the US began the bombing of LIH not so long ago. About Assad's army of optimism is also not very clear. It controls less than a third of the country’s territory, continuing to slowly but surely lose the areas under its control.

            Islamists cannot be destroyed by bombing alone. This is an ideology, first and foremost. will defeat Syria, so they will be fixed in Iraq. without ground operation in any case can not do. The question is only what forces and who will hold it? Hope on Assad is weak.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 1 October 2015 13: 29
              12
              Quote: SokolfromRussia
              You are somewhat wrong, the US ISIS bombing began not so long ago.

              6000 HOURS OF DEPARTURE is it not so long ago? With this, the result is zero. They were apparently bombing sand in the desert, not ISIS. At the same time, they were screaming to the whole world how they are fighting this infection in the face of ISIS.
              Quote: SokolfromRussia
              Optimism about Assad’s army is also not very clear. It controls less than a third of the country's territory.

              Of course. With a good supply of Amers, including dropping weapons and ammunition "by mistake" from planes, it is surprising that the Syrians held out for 4,5 years. ...
              Quote: SokolfromRussia
              defeated in Syria, so they gain a foothold in Iraq. in any case, ground operations cannot be dispensed with.

              There is an army of Syria, there are Iranian forces ... they will clean up. There is someone to fight on the earth. At the same time, unlike ISIS mercenaries, the Syrians and Iranians are fighting not for money, but for their land and for their families. Do you feel the difference in the degree of motivation?
              Quote: SokolfromRussia
              There is little hope for the Asadites.

              Oh well. The army that held ISIS back almost alone for so many years? 230 of thousands of shelled soldiers and their hope is weak? Do you hear yourself?
              1. 2С5
                2С5 1 October 2015 14: 27
                +5
                Oh well. The army that held ISIS back almost alone for so many years? 230 of thousands of shelled soldiers and their hope is weak? Do you hear yourself?
                ... plus a moral upsurge from help and the visible real results of this help ... 4,5 years survived on bare enthusiasm, and with such competent and powerful support they simply trample and step on and trample and clean up! angry
              2. Captain45
                Captain45 1 October 2015 16: 37
                +3
                Quote: NEXUS
                6000 HOURS OF DEPARTURE is it not so long ago? With this, the result is zero. They were apparently bombing sand in the desert, not ISIS.

                Yeah, they bombed, while "by mistake" containers with weapons and equipment were dropped by the ISIS. "We plowed," said the fly, getting off the ox. " lol
            2. zzz
              zzz 1 October 2015 14: 15
              0
              Quote: SokolfromRussia
              Islamists alone cannot be destroyed. This is an ideology in the first place. defeated in Syria, so they gain a foothold in Iraq.



              Well, everyone says it’s all for a long time! It will be necessary to build statehood, and before that, the most stubborn ones should be destroyed, and with the rest they should sit down at the negotiating table and share the liberated lands, and build states there. Everything is very long. But at the same time, we are simply obliged to get a special influence on BV. Yes, and the Saudis and Qatar still need to be thanked forever for participating in the organization of terrorist attacks in Russia, and so thank so that more and a thought like that could not sneak into their heads. And only in a whisper and the best about us!
              1. Shooting
                Shooting 1 October 2015 16: 49
                0
                The best "gratitude" will be if they are annexed to Iran, while the Americans want to redraw the map of the Middle East.
            3. Aljavad
              Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 39
              +4
              Optimism about Assad’s army is also not very clear. It controls less than a third of the country's territory,

              There is a lie.
              There is a big lie.
              And there are statistics.
              Formally, this is so. But ISIS has the eastern desert, while Assad has the inhabited western lands. And 80% of the population of Syria on these lands.
        4. Rus2012
          Rus2012 1 October 2015 11: 00
          +6
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Roman let me disagree

          and work out actual combat use without much risk.

          There are always risks ... let's say a technology failure. Therefore, the spascomand must on the alert!

          I am quite normal with Muslims. They are different, yes. But living side by side with them is quite possible. We live after all?

          It is necessary to chop on the nose - our Muslims are the same Russians, moreover there are Russians among them! It is not Faith that distinguishes us.
          In this case, IG is not even a religion, but a way of thinking of life and ideology.
          Already wrote:
          IS ideology is passionate and massive - "the disadvantaged of all countries - unite and fight against the infidels and against world inequality for freedom and justice under the banner of Allah!" It is impossible to root out at the root, because "traditional cozy Islam" - in a collision, loses in everything at once.

          I will add, this is the "black international", which has a lot from the "red project":
          - intransigence and adherence
          - the idea is primary, everything else is secondary
          - the same ideas of "equality, brotherhood, justice" among their own. And without dividing into nations and nationalities, the main thing is commitment to ideas.

          Victory in the military sense - surrender or surrender of something - is impossible, because there is neither statehood nor the Governing Center. One can only try to inflict a quick military defeat on their troops by expelling them from the territories ...

          The next step is to "remove" the preaching ideologues, drive them into a "controlled area" and force them to play according to the "generally accepted rules of the game." As if peaceful coexistence ... and gradually chopping off the feeding environment in the form of poverty, illiteracy ... and so on. etc.
          Sounds familiar? That and that ...
          1. rosarioagro
            rosarioagro 1 October 2015 11: 10
            +1
            Quote: Rus2012
            It is not Faith that distinguishes us.

            This may be a fallacy, for faith is sometimes stronger than all other civic feelings, because it is extraterritorial
            Quote: Rus2012
            - the idea is primary, everything else is secondary

            This is so, this is the basis
            Quote: Rus2012
            - the same ideas of "equality, brotherhood, justice" among their own. And without dividing into nations and nationalities, the main thing is commitment to ideas.

            Why shouldn’t Assad be beaten out with a wedge-wedge - an idea-idea, a kind of import substitution, proclaim the idea of ​​internationalism, communism, especially since there was an article on Marxists in Syria on the website of this year in 2013, one can say support can be found
          2. uhu189
            uhu189 1 October 2015 13: 53
            +1
            Ideology can only be fought with a stronger ideology, so that people see justice not in cutting off their heads to everyone they consider enemies and living in the Middle Ages according to Sharia law in the form of pseudo-rogue scumbags, but in the hope of a normal life for themselves and their children, in public development, in the future, in which they will have a place. Until this happens, all military operations are essentially useless.
          3. gladcu2
            gladcu2 1 October 2015 14: 11
            +1
            Rus2012

            The key point is ISIS is not playing by the rules. To support these rules, ISIS must declare itself a state. Create all state attributes, get recognition, get representation in the UN. Otherwise, ISIS is a gang, like pirates or drug dealers. This key point needs to be identified. The presence of a particular ideology according to international relations and law is not a crime.

            The USSR paid the countries of the "buffer zone" to support their statehood. Such an approach in politics cannot be directly profitable and is costly. These costs need to be included in defense spending.

            If anyone is looking for profit. Do not look there.
            1. Aljavad
              Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 51
              0
              Create all state attributes, get recognition, get representation in the UN.
              (...) The existence of a particular ideology according to international relations and law is not a crime.


              The basis of their ideology is the Caliphate. Those. the only legitimate state in the world. Unlike other, godless. Consequently subject to conquest and conversion to Islam.
              Agenda: the Mujahideen, century after century, perform jihad, and the conquered infidels feed and supply them with virgins.
              And you say: "UN". Yes, they turned him on a stake!
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 1 October 2015 16: 54
                0
                Aljavad.

                This is the problem of ideologies based on the nipple system. Jihad is easy to declare. But it’s hard to stop. With a certain controllability of Islam, with control centers of wise rulers, Islam is faith. When wisdom is lost, wars based on faith begin.

                There are still Wahhabis unattended. Only we and nobody else.
          4. Aljavad
            Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 43
            +2
            One can only try to inflict a quick military defeat on their troops by expelling them from the territories ...


            I wish they could be squeezed out to the Saudis! am
            1. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 2 October 2015 01: 33
              0
              Quote: Aljavad
              I wish they could be squeezed out to the Saudis!

              Well, you and the joker! Through the territory of Jordan, perhaps ...
        5. sherman1506
          sherman1506 1 October 2015 11: 42
          +1
          I agree that this operation was being prepared for a long time, collecting intelligence, pumping up weapons, creating a plan. After the Crimean operation, I think the Syrian one will not drag on. We found not feeble allies: Iran, China, Iraq, although it is still under amers, I think India and Jordan will catch up, to avenge their flyer. After the UN General Assembly it is clear that the amers and their sixes were left behind, if you want to join, but on our terms, if you don't want to, go to .... And the fact that the Americans backed up in Syria, a sign of ukram, tomorrow they will throw you, and then we will talk about "Berkut", Odessa and Donbass.
          We are not vindictive, but we have a good memory.
          1. rosarioagro
            rosarioagro 1 October 2015 12: 23
            +3
            Quote: sherman1506
            Found not frail allies: Iran, China, Iraq, although it is still under amers, I think India and Jordan

            Iran - they helped, but ended up with Assad calling for help, mediocre help was included, China - it was stated to them that the Syrians should be resolved by political means - minus one, Iraq - all the military or the majority escaped to ISIS - minus two, India - in general from no side - minus three, Jordan - for the sake of one person they will not fit, because they do not see their benefits - minus the last
            1. Aljavad
              Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 54
              0
              Iran - they helped, but ended with Assad calling for help, there was mediocre help,


              Iran has long run out of parts for Amer’s aircraft. Helped than they could.
            2. sherman1506
              sherman1506 1 October 2015 20: 27
              0
              Do you still believe the media?
        6. xan
          xan 1 October 2015 13: 29
          +3
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          ISIS may knock on our doors tomorrow.

          Again and again I am convinced of the correctness of the immortal Napoleonic phrase "if you do not want to feed your army, you will feed someone else's." There is simply no alternative, no matter how peaceful the world may seem. For this, you can travel in one car instead of two (I can generally walk and walk), once again not go on vacation abroad, and not eat these cheeses with bacon and other parmesans. Well, if you do it at all, you can fight yourself and stick around for food, as the ancestors did.
          1. sherman1506
            sherman1506 1 October 2015 20: 30
            +1
            The people, there will be an order, during the day Berlin will become Russian.
        7. Serafim-k
          Serafim-k 1 October 2015 20: 02
          +5
          "Only Russians can afford to fight out of compassion" - M.D.Skobelev ..! soldier
        8. SeAl2014
          SeAl2014 1 October 2015 20: 51
          0
          God bless our pilots and provision!
          Ella Pamfilova has already stated that there will be no problems recognizing the participants in the hostilities in Syria as such. This is what the Motherland should do.
        9. Lenin
          Lenin 1 October 2015 22: 19
          0
          We ourselves this sounds a little wrong, we ourselves did not decide. Decided by the Federation Council. People just silently approved.
        10. Alexey M
          Alexey M 2 October 2015 16: 56
          0
          ISIS may knock on our doors tomorrow.
          And where will he knock when they trample him from Syria?
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 06: 28
        19
        Quote: 3
        Something the view in the photo is not very similar to Syria! ..

        Excuse me, what was the last time you were in Syria?
      3. Sterlya
        Sterlya 1 October 2015 08: 08
        +2
        But Pinocchio should be put, the thing is good
        1. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 2 October 2015 01: 38
          0
          Quote: Sterlya
          But Pinocchio should be put, the thing is good

          Only Pinocchio’s range is not very good - 7 km of everything, where it may fit. Only if ISIS burrows under the sand, Pinocchio may not get it.
      4. Darwin
        Darwin 1 October 2015 09: 36
        -2
        And you see specials in Syria
      5. fif21
        fif21 1 October 2015 10: 30
        0
        Quote: 3
        Something the view in the photo is not very similar to Syria! ..
        I would have applauded standing if this picture was from Emen wassat
      6. fif21
        fif21 1 October 2015 10: 30
        0
        Quote: 3
        Something the view in the photo is not very similar to Syria! ..
        I would have applauded standing if this picture was from Emen wassat
        1. evfrat
          evfrat 3 October 2015 13: 05
          +2
          I would have applauded standing, if you had learned to write the names of countries correctly.
      7. atalef
        atalef 2 October 2015 07: 07
        0
        Quote: 3
        Something the view in the photo is not very similar to Syria! ..

        Actually it’s similar.
        But certainly not now. those. photo taken at least in winter or early spring.
        This can be seen both in clothing and in the green grass and hills.
        At the end of the summer (and I somehow doubt that they water the grass there) - this is not real.
    2. Igor39
      Igor39 1 October 2015 06: 22
      16
      100 such machines would also be nice
      1. Klibanophoros
        Klibanophoros 1 October 2015 10: 07
        +2
        And these machines will appear until the troops suffer losses in the city ruins and they SUDDENLY remember about it.
        Say thanks to the inert general Eref, in terms of habits, these gentlemen have not changed anything since the time of the king. Equipment is made for a specific concept of battle and warfare, and Russian generals in peacetime are not occupied with this, but with a battle for the loot, for the dachas, for the women.
        Therefore, we still have a post-war, slightly revised concept of the same profound operation of Triandafilov.

        What are network-centric wars? In our country, drones cannot normally be included in the structure of troops.
        And now, our aircraft are wetting the militants in Syria with FABs, as usual.
        1. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 1 October 2015 11: 40
          +2
          Precise weapons are almost exclusively for the press, expensive. And FABami - just right.
        2. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 1 October 2015 11: 40
          0
          Precise weapons are almost exclusively for the press, expensive. And FABami - just right.
        3. Aljavad
          Aljavad 1 October 2015 15: 59
          +1
          And now, our aircraft are wetting the militants in Syria with FABs, as usual.


          For the past 30 years, or more, the States have been waging a small war every time an ammunition batch expires.

          In a businesslike way. And not the old fashioned way. Recycling!
    3. Kradi
      Kradi 1 October 2015 07: 15
      12 th
      Somehow the lad in the photo is yellow-black. Have the pravoseks already reached Syria?
      1. Llirik
        Llirik 1 October 2015 07: 40
        13
        Sneakers are like sneakers. And the Arabs to all sorts of troubles with ukroflagom generally on the drum. The shoes are comfortable. And the color combination alone is not to blame.
        You would have forbidden the rainbow to appear, otherwise "it promotes, you know ... all bad things" hi
      2. Das Boot
        Das Boot 1 October 2015 08: 23
        +1
        Quote: KraDI
        Somehow the lad in the photo is yellow-black. Have the pravoseks already reached Syria?

        aha
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 1 October 2015 16: 06
      0
      How long has a new type of troops been created — the Russian Aerospace Forces, but have not been tested in practice yet. The armed forces must always be in full combat readiness. Moreover, the over-task appeared - to return the World to the legal international field.
    5. mimohodom
      mimohodom 1 October 2015 20: 09
      0
      “Yes, this is only the beginning, Roses, so to speak.” All the main things to come. You’ll have to test everything, but Russia will not surrender Syria.
      And then, when serious problems begin in the EU and the USA, it is possible to sober up Ukraine from the maydaunas.
    6. theadenter
      theadenter 1 October 2015 21: 37
      0
      Most likely the Syrian troops will use this technique. And our ground contingent will be there to train the Syrian military and coordinate actions.
    7. Captain Blood
      Captain Blood 2 October 2015 19: 03
      -4
      Dolbyob wrote an article. Nobody pulled Russia in. In the West, everyone is fucked up by the fact that Putin did this. Is this a site for liberal fucking?
  2. Gray 43
    Gray 43 1 October 2015 06: 16
    12
    I would not be surprised if information appears about the preparation of the "moderate opposition" staff for work with air defense systems.
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 1 October 2015 06: 23
      +4
      The Pentagon has suspended sending “moderates” to training camps in Turkey and Jordan
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 1 October 2015 12: 25
      0
      Well, then with U points or Iskander low-explosive air defense, possibly anti-radar missiles. Then we continue.
    3. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 1 October 2015 12: 25
      0
      Well, then with U points or Iskander low-explosive air defense, possibly anti-radar missiles. Then we continue.
  3. mamont5
    mamont5 1 October 2015 06: 21
    +3
    "Sushki is, of course, great, but where to look for these ISIS men after the salvo of Buratino? They would run towards Europe, overtaking their jeeps."

    Would catch up. There are Assad fighters.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 06: 29
      +6
      Quote: mamont5
      but where to look for these ISIS men after the Buratino salvo? B

      Pinocchio hits how many kilometers?
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 1 October 2015 06: 52
        +8
        4-6, somehow. Weapons of the battlefield. But the city will be very effective, only then there will be too much garbage.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 1 October 2015 07: 53
          +1
          Quote: inkass_98
          But the city will be very effective

          But what about "peaceful women and children destroyed at home"?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 October 2015 08: 50
            +5
            Quote: Bayonet
            But what about "peaceful women and children destroyed at home"?

            Judging by the video on YouTube, where the position of the IG - civilians are no longer there. hi
          2. troy
            troy 1 October 2015 16: 57
            0
            once upon a time to worry about civilians. they are not there already. all in trash, while there is time. then we'll figure it out. and to remind the mattresses of the children burnt by napalm, of the children of Yugoslavia. yes they have something to remind
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 1 October 2015 20: 55
              0
              Quote: troy
              once once worry about civilians

              And what the hell was there to talk about them when the French fighters bombed the militants ???? They, too, weren’t bullets !!! Guys, have a conscience, why the hell?
      2. Afinogen
        Afinogen 1 October 2015 07: 32
        13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Pinocchio hits how many kilometers?


        Enough! There is enough use of the "Serpent of the Mountaineer" And if "Buratina" fires a couple of volleys, they scatter by throwing weapons (who will survive lol )


        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 1 October 2015 07: 58
          +5
          Quote: Athenogen
          Enough! There is enough use of "Gorynych's Serpent"

          Actually, the UR-77 mine clearance unit is called the Serpent Gorynych.
          TOS-1 "Pinocchio" - a heavy flamethrower system (TOS) multiple launch rocket.
          As you can see, the systems are completely different in purpose. hi
          1. Afinogen
            Afinogen 1 October 2015 08: 08
            +3
            Quote: Bayonet
            As you can see, the systems are completely different in purpose.



            Well, actually, I just wrote that if there is enough range of "Gorynych" then "Buratino" will be enough for its distance. I did not write that this is the same thing. hi
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 1 October 2015 08: 53
              +1
              Quote: Athenogen
              I did not write that it is the same.

              This is understandable! smile I wonder where they got it from the "Snake", cleaned the street? An extraordinary use of the machine, after all, it is to create a passage in a minefield hi
              1. Afinogen
                Afinogen 1 October 2015 09: 21
                +4
                Quote: Bayonet
                I wonder where they got it from the "Snake", cleaned the street? An extraordinary use of the machine, after all, it is to create a passage in a minefield



                And they made passages from terrorists laughing Found a new application good
                1. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 2 October 2015 01: 45
                  0
                  Quote: Athenogen
                  And they made passages from terrorists. They found a new application

                  The hammer was also invented for hammering nails ... But they can also knock on the heads of people, like terrorists.
              2. Hell's Angel
                Hell's Angel 1 October 2015 09: 52
                +1
                Extraordinary use of the machine,
                Unusual but not new. Ours in Chechnya used it that way. It was definitely in Komsomolsky.
                1. Afinogen
                  Afinogen 1 October 2015 09: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Hell Angel
                  It was definitely in Komsomolsky.


                  As far as I remember, "Buratina" hit Komsomolsk.
                  1. Hell's Angel
                    Hell's Angel 1 October 2015 10: 44
                    +1
                    And them too. Rather, at first "Buratino" and Gorynych were already used later. In the midst, so to speak. The OMON then worked in this direction. Unfortunately, I don't know where.
                  2. Captain45
                    Captain45 1 October 2015 16: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Athenogen
                    As far as I remember, "Buratina" hit Komsomolsk.

                    No, it is the UR-77 "Serpent Gorynych", I answer.
                    Quote: Hell Angel
                    Then riot police worked in this direction. Unfortunately, I don’t know where.

                    Novosibirsk and Vladimir.
                    1. Afinogen
                      Afinogen 1 October 2015 17: 15
                      0
                      Quote: Captain45
                      No, it is the UR-77 "Serpent Gorynych", I answer.



                      And "Grynych" and "Buratino" and even "Tochka" were shmalling with a cluster warhead.

                      Here is an excerpt from the article.

                      There were also "contradictions" with the special forces of the Ministry of Justice. However, absolute firepower is the use of aviation, artillery, direct fire tanks, as well as the use of thermobaric (vacuum) ammunition of the TOS-1 "Buratino" system, mine clearance systems UR-77 ("Serpent Gorynych" - almost a ton of plastic in one volley) and even tactical missiles "Tochka-U" with cluster warheads - did their job.


                      The whole article if it is interesting here http://www.voinenet.ru/prestupleniya-na-voine/drugie-prestupleniya/21655.html
          2. Darwin
            Darwin 1 October 2015 09: 42
            +2
            How many new military developments we have here is the testing ground, the warrior should be put up by the military of Syria, the Mil and Kamov turntables.
            1. gridasov
              gridasov 1 October 2015 09: 54
              +3
              It is absolutely true that such events are a unique opportunity for both testing and testing the complex and the possibilities and methods and methods. In such situations, political, economic, military, and logistical issues are involved, and many, many things. But most importantly, we should all be aware that there is a very ghostly distance between peace and war.
            2. Aljavad
              Aljavad 1 October 2015 16: 04
              0
              turntables Mil and Kamov.


              The most that - at night on the desert to drive caravans!
    2. Almatinets
      Almatinets 1 October 2015 06: 51
      +5
      "Let's remember his name? BU-RA-TI-NO! Buratino !!"
    3. Almatinets
      Almatinets 1 October 2015 06: 51
      0
      "Let's remember his name? BU-RA-TI-NO! Buratino !!"
    4. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 1 October 2015 10: 57
      0
      And the Syrian troops over the years are very motivated to catch up and "spank"
  4. linadherent
    linadherent 1 October 2015 06: 23
    +2
    As for "Buratin", it is sensibly thought up ... laughing
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 08: 00
      +3
      Quote: linadherent
      As for "Buratin", it is sensibly invented

      Something has not been mentioned about EW for a long time, it seems at the moment "Buratino" is a favorite miracle weapon! smile
      1. Afinogen
        Afinogen 1 October 2015 08: 22
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        It looks like at the moment "Buratino" is a favorite miracle weapon!



        There is still one thing, "Cheburashka", but it was classified, the dill was found out about it and told to the world laughing laughing
        1. Gost171
          Gost171 2 October 2015 03: 12
          0
          There is still one thing, "Cheburashka", but it was classified, the dill was found out about it and told to the world laughing laughing[/ Quote]


          As for CheburGen, for a reason, not a word is raised in the reserve. [Media = C: UserslenovoDesktopAOTCJediMaster1024.jpg]
  5. Buffalo
    Buffalo 1 October 2015 06: 23
    +7
    When they declared war on you, the choice remains poor: either die or win ...
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 1 October 2015 07: 21
      +9
      Quote: Bison
      When they declared war on you, the choice remains poor: either die or win ...

      or wait for the Russians.
    2. Afinogen
      Afinogen 1 October 2015 09: 52
      +2
      Quote: Bison
      When they declared war on you, the choice remains poor: either die or win.


      Well, why, there is a third, buy an inflatable boat and row into a well-fed Europe.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 1 October 2015 06: 29
    +9
    Our problems are just beginning...This author correctly noted ....
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 1 October 2015 08: 03
      13
      Interestingly, if in September 1939 our Germans were offended for something, and following the end of the conflict on Khalkhin Gol freed Poland and Czechoslovakia to the German-French border, would we have lost 27000000 (!) Lives? Well, or at any other opportune moment until June 22, 1941?
      Or will we be guided by the ideological criminals from Echo of Moscow who are offended by the whole of Russia and the Russian liberals, and the Professor from our website, nervously glancing at the Afghan-Tajik border?
      Or maybe start a hell of a screech about the possible danger to our contractors? And there are already such howls. I remind you: these people exist for that reason in the form of professionals, in order to carry out clearly their task at any cost, so as not to strain the Homeland, which pays him a salary and gives the Oath.
      You can argue Afghanistan for a long time or not for Russia, but Russia should not be a sacrificial sheep, there are many who want it in the world - we need to destroy the enemy anywhere outside our country, otherwise we can get a big war on our territory. Was there anything worse for us than June 22, 1941?
    2. voronbel53
      voronbel53 1 October 2015 08: 33
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      Our problems are just beginning ... This is the author correctly noted

      If they pulled rubber with their help, Syria, we would have much more problems, ISIS, as a cancerous tumor grows more and more. The stripes indulged in a vague policy, no sense, only an imitation of the struggle, the Assad government forces alone could not cope, someone had to get involved and turn the tide of the war in their direction. What Russia has done is to sit aside and take a wait-and-see attitude, wait for the cancer to whistle on the mountain, it was more expensive for itself. The honor and praise of Russia has shown decisiveness and will, now it remains to continue to a victorious end - after all, this is our war, in our national interests, we only have to fight outside our territory, is a common enemy ...
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 1 October 2015 11: 21
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      Our problems are just beginning ... This is the author correctly noted ....


      And again, I agree with you, Alexy, all the main things are still really ahead.

      Something like this. yes
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  8. Oman 47
    Oman 47 1 October 2015 06: 33
    +7
    They still dragged us into the war ?!
    I do not agree!
    Do not open the boil on time - it will poison the entire body.
    Ours - HEADED, somewhere like that.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 08: 09
      +2
      Quote: Oman 47
      They still dragged us into the war ?!

      Such statements, as well as “they destroyed us,” “they divorced us,” “they deceived us,” and so on, lead to sad thoughts ... Why such pessimism and underestimation of the mental abilities of their country? request
      1. rosarioagro
        rosarioagro 1 October 2015 08: 44
        +3
        Quote: Bayonet
        Where does such pessimism and underestimation of the mental abilities of their country come from?

        Well, people are looking at domestic politics and somehow not inspired
      2. xan
        xan 1 October 2015 13: 41
        +3
        Quote: Bayonet
        Such statements, as well as “they destroyed us,” “they divorced us,” “they deceived us,” and so on, lead to sad thoughts.

        I remember at the time of the Orange Revolution two men, one of a liberal nationality, were invited on the echo. The liberast was the first to start the hurdy-gurdy: "They dunked us again in our own slops, again they poked us with our faces in the mud." Immediately the second man: "Leader, let this gentleman speak on his own behalf, or I'll go out."
  9. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 1 October 2015 06: 35
    +3
    To win, yeah, ISIS is based in Iraq, in general, this is an analogue of Afghanistan, then in 1979, when they pressed them to call for help from the USSR, the USSR introduced a limited contingent and it worked there for 10 years and still left, and the Taliban returned, and here - ISIS has room to retreat if something happens, and Syria does not have the ability to control the country's territory, there simply are no human resources for this
    1. Silhouette
      Silhouette 1 October 2015 09: 07
      +1
      When no one understood why Russia needed 4 Mistrals a few years ago, I wrote on this forum: to fight terrorism, pirates in Africa and the Middle East. They are no longer good for anything. You will see how after a while they will be under the Russian flag where it is hot.
      In fact, Russia is now waging two wars: the civil one in Ukraine and the second in Syria. The case will not be limited to one airstrikes. There will be volunteers and special forces. What will it give? Rising prices in the domestic market, inflation and impoverishment of the population. Better not to live. But then for a while we shut our mouths of our own counter.
      The task of winning in Syria is not worth it. The task is to participate. Real-time combat training. Testing technology, tactics and training people. Well, bomb the oil structure of the IG to hell. This is perhaps the main thing.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 1 October 2015 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: Silhouette
        The task of winning in Syria is not worth it. The task is to participate. Real-time combat training.

        Somehow it’s not quite so ... If there is no goal to win, but “just to participate,” then why should we lay our heads? But this cannot be avoided - however, the war. And then how can this be explained to the relatives of those who did not return from this "combat training"?
        1. Silhouette
          Silhouette 1 October 2015 15: 05
          0
          And who are you going to win? Formulate more specifically. World terrorism? So the US has been fighting with him since September 11. Islamic bandits? So they are full in Russia - in the North Caucasus, and now in the Crimea. Who are we fighting with in Syria? For what?
          With regard to mortality, we rarely have any exercises without loss.
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 1 October 2015 16: 32
      +1
      rosarioagro SU Today, 06:35 AM New
      To win, yeah, ISIS is based in Iraq, in general, this is an analogue of Afghanistan, then in 1979, when they pressed them to call for help from the USSR, the USSR introduced a limited contingent and it worked there for 10 years and still left, and the Taliban returned, and here - ISIS has room to retreat if something happens,


      And who said that we will not bomb in Iraq? The Coordinating Council is in Baghdad, Iraq has already authorized flights of scouts. As well as the flight of our aircraft. Unlike the Bulgarian brothers ...
      1. rosarioagro
        rosarioagro 1 October 2015 16: 54
        -1
        Quote: Aljavad
        And who said that we will not bomb in Iraq? The Coordinating Council is in Baghdad, Iraq has already authorized flights of scouts.

        Just remember Afghanistan, they bombed it with aircraft, and they affected it with artillery and rifle, but at the moment the Taliban feel comfortable there
  10. Professor
    Professor 1 October 2015 06: 37
    37 th
    So, Russia was dragged into the war. Left to win

    Yes, the author asks me, but IHMO, this article is much more credible:

    Think about your homeland before

    PS
    1. It is necessary to fight for Syria. Still, the last ally in the region and all that.

    She is not an ally. Never fought for Russia or the USSR, and on the contrary, she sheltered the Nazis.

    And you can put on credit, Assad - not some kind of rogue, enough resources to pay in case of success.

    This is just a masterpiece. I'll take it in the quote box. Why didn’t you forgive the $ 10 billion debt? Or was there nowhere to put this money?

    2. Syria - it is not as far as it may seem. About 600 km to our southern borders.

    We look at the map. On the way are Turkey, Georgia, passes and gorges through which a highway was laid from Syria ... wassat

    3. Air operations against ISIS - this is still not quite a full-fledged war. This is a war with the Papuans.

    You don’t tell the warriors of the Afghans about the war with the Papuans, otherwise they can give in the face.

    4. The political aspect. In contrast to the situation in the same Crimea, in Syria, the legitimate incumbent president asked for our military assistance.

    The legitimacy of which is no longer so unambiguous in the world.

    5. Military aspect.

    If you do not consider the fact that Isil cannot be defeated in the military aspect at all (this is ideology), then only from the air will he not cause even significant harm. Ground operation required.

    Bam, bam and ... by.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 1 October 2015 06: 48
      +5
      Come on professor, run a bottle to buy Putin, our guarantor also tried for you.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 06: 50
      0
      Quote: Professor

      Yes, the author asks me, but IHMO, this article is much more credible:

      Oleg hi This article was here yesterday.
      1. Professor
        Professor 1 October 2015 06: 52
        -9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Oleg This article was here yesterday.

        Then I missed her repeat
      2. vasiliysxx
        vasiliysxx 1 October 2015 06: 54
        -1
        Awl bast, and all his quotes yesterday laughing
    3. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 1 October 2015 06: 54
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Think about your homeland before

      No comments. Just put a plus.
    4. regdan
      regdan 1 October 2015 07: 29
      +6
      About the Israeli body drew ...
      Bam, bam and ... by.

      You are lying an Israeli citizen. In the video, one point of fire from different sides. The first two show how the fragments fell, the last point of the shelling and there you can see how the boxes of ammunition rushed.
      1. Professor
        Professor 1 October 2015 07: 35
        -7
        Quote: regdan
        The first two show how the fragments fell, the last point of the shelling and there you can see how the boxes of ammunition rushed.

        What shaw you gawar? wink We read what is broadcasting by the Russian Ministry of Defense.
        The Russian aviation group deployed at the Khmeimim Syrian airfield launched the first targeted attacks on targets of the ISIS international terrorist organization

        Aircraft strike aircraft, equipped with modern systems of destruction, struck at eight targets.

        These are warehouses of weapons and ammunition, fuels and lubricants, military equipment, command posts, communication centers, vehicles of ISIS fighters.

        All targets are hit.

        Objects such as the command post of militants and the headquarters of the command of terrorist groups located in mountainous areas are completely destroyed.


        Now let's look closely at the video. There are no "points of fire" there, but three bombs were laid beautifully over the mound. Looks like the cunning ISIS members have warehouses of weapons and ammunition, fuel and lubricants, military equipment, command posts, communication centers, vehicles of ISIS militants were not in buildings, but on a hill. fellow
        1. regdan
          regdan 1 October 2015 07: 52
          +5
          AND??? Your Benya Cheburek from Tel Aviv demonstrated funny pictures at the UN. And here the pros work. ISIS yells, the USA yells, the EU yells, Israel rushes about ...
        2. Averias
          Averias 1 October 2015 09: 27
          20
          Forgive me magnanimously, dear Professor of the Promised Land. Why don't you like something that haunts you? What, excuse me, how did it break off the chain? And you (Israel) what distinguished you? By using long-range artillery to cover Assad's positions? The fact that you are waging an endless fuss (war) with Palestine? You, who boast of your "coolest" army, "Domes" of all sorts of and other geniuses of military engineering, are hiding in shelters from homemade missiles. Or is it simple - they themselves have little guts, to oppose ISIS? And then look, and your pretzel immediately rushed to Moscow, just in case, otherwise you never know what. Who prevented you from crushing ISIS? Or why, the principle is my hut on the edge, right? And while the neighbor's "house is on fire", I will "dismantle the fence" under the guise of "fire" anyway. Yes, you are writing, forgive me, just writing. Well, it was not part of your plans - Our presence in the Middle East. And here's another thing I wanted to ask, but the land on which you live - how did you get it, do you remind me by chance?
          1. Silhouette
            Silhouette 1 October 2015 17: 37
            0
            Quote: Averias
            And you (Israel) how did you differ?

            Russia has finally been driven into the fight against international terrorism in the Middle East. It is still unclear how this will end. It is clear that air strikes cannot defeat him. Stories that there it is necessary to destroy all the terrorists who may return to Russia - in favor of the poor. It is easier to give the go-ahead to the special services for their legal liquidation upon return. Well, nagging relatives in all directions.
          2. Professor
            Professor 1 October 2015 19: 47
            -6
            Quote: Averias
            And here is what I wanted to ask, and the land you live on - how did you get it, do not remind me of chance?

            What to remind, I will remind. The Almighty gave us this land about 5 thousand years ago. fellow
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 1 October 2015 20: 06
              0
              Quote: Professor
              . The Almighty gave us this land about 5 thousand years ago.
              Golannye vyoty, as you think ... if a militia is rained down, then the brigades of the Mzrail army will occupy this delicious line (heights, and even so) well done.
              1. Professor
                Professor 1 October 2015 20: 10
                -3
                Quote: Thunderbolt
                Golannsky vyoty, as you think ... if the militia rains down, the brigades of the Mzrail army will occupy this delicious line (heights, and even more) well done. Reapers)))

                What are you talking about? The Golan Heights have been occupied by the Tsahal since 1967.

                Quote: Thunderbolt
                Probably half the Syrian skater Naas Rus will respect 100 percent

                1. It depends on who.
                2. Depending on the results. So far, the video of the bombing posted by the Russian Defense Ministry causes a wave of laughter in the bourgeois forums.
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              1. Professor
                Professor 2 October 2015 06: 54
                -1
                Quote: Weyland
                First, the Most High is written with a capital letter.

                Our god, with what letter I want to write with such.

                Quote: Weyland
                Secondly, 5000 years ago you simply weren't there!

                We have other information about this.

                Quote: Weyland
                The Lord only promised Abraham - but he only gave 3200 years ago. But He did not say that forever!

                Did he change his mind and give it to someone else? Really fylystyntsev? laughing

                Quote: Weyland
                So now you need to thank not the Lord, but Rothschild and Lord Balfour (and not only for Israel, but also for the holocaust, as a direct consequence of the "Balfour declaration")

            3. Weyland
              Weyland 1 October 2015 23: 44
              0
              Quote: Professor
              The Almighty gave us this land about 5 thousand years ago


              Unit! Learn the materiel!
              First, the Most High is written with a capital letter.
              Secondly, 5000 years ago you simply weren't there!
              The Lord only promised Abraham - but he only gave 3200 years ago. But He did not say that forever!

              So now you need not thank the Lord, but thank Rothschild and Lord Balfour (and not only for Israel, but also for holocaust as a direct consequence of the "Balfour Declaration")
        3. sanyavolhv
          sanyavolhv 1 October 2015 18: 43
          0
          health
          if you take into account the statement of one Russian expert (the young, rambling Shevchenko seems), then those who are fighting against both Assad and the igil bombed in the squares on which. so Assad told them, lads we do not want your death. but our roof is obviously cooler, let's tie up to do nonsense. and you will remain alive and healthy to the best of your mental development. in other words a warning strike. but the patriots in Russia need to be told something, like, they got rid of ...
    5. SokolfromRussia
      SokolfromRussia 1 October 2015 09: 18
      15 th
      I was also pleased with this passage. It can settle, only almost all debts for Syria’s weapons have been regularly forgiven since the Soviet times.

      Few of us Ukrainian problem, also climbed into Syria. We are advancing on the Soviet rake, comrades!
      1. Non-jumping
        Non-jumping 1 October 2015 22: 35
        +2
        Quote: SokolfromRussia
        I was also pleased with this passage. It can settle, only almost all debts for Syria’s weapons have been regularly forgiven since the Soviet times.

        Few of us Ukrainian problem, also climbed into Syria. We are advancing on the Soviet rake, comrades!

        With such an attitude, comrade, tomorrow you will lose your country and your home will have a problem.
    6. Turkir
      Turkir 1 October 2015 09: 45
      0
      Professor
      A rare bird will fly to the middle of the Dnieper ... winked
    7. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 1 October 2015 12: 03
      0
      We look at the map. On the way Turkey, Georgia, passes and gorges through which a highway was laid from Syria ... wassat

      Turkey is not a hindrance to Russia, let’s go and not notice. The question "Why is the IS and other terrorists so firmly settled on the Turkish border? Is there something wrong here? Yes, Izgail is secretly supporting ISIS (not all of them, of course, are ignorant)
      1. SokolfromRussia
        SokolfromRussia 1 October 2015 13: 23
        +4
        You should have looked at the army of Turkey before saying that. Especially on the units at the Syrian border. These are dozens of infantry and mechanized brigades, fully staffed, with experience of fighting with the Kurds and constant training.

        Shapkozakidatelskie sentiment Russia has never been brought to good.
    8. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 1 October 2015 18: 11
      +2
      Professor burns as always)))
      I talked here with the Israelis. At the weekend, a friend came from Israel, married an Israeli and has been living there for many years, and here she comes with friends to talk, the girl is very savvy in politics and about political processes. And then talk to her ... .. I learned a lot.
      First, she says that in Israel no one considers ISIS a threat. No one is going to fight with them and in a certain situation they can even cooperate. They generally believe that nothing terrible is happening in Syria, and as a result, they themselves will all kill each other themselves)))
      Israel has 2 enemies, these are Iran and Hezbola. No other organizations and Islamists in general are interested in Israel.
      According to her, Israel’s attitude towards the United States is very changing. It is impossible to say that everyone immediately began to dislike America, but many began to think hard after the atomic agreement with Iran, and after the summit they began to scratch their turnips twice as much.
      Israel is very much afraid of one now. The situation in Syria is such that Hezbola is fighting with ISIS. And in Israel they are very afraid that Russia will support and arm Hezbola with some kind of latest weapons, and Hezbola will turn to Israel. The situation turned so that the United States began to consider Hezbola moderate and help them from the air. And Israel is very afraid to stay alone with Iran. Russia is cooperating with Iran, and now the United States has refused a confrontation with Iran, and all of this in Israel becomes sycotic ........
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    10. NyeMoNik70
      NyeMoNik70 1 October 2015 20: 01
      +1
      Oh zohen wei, what a fart break our Zionist friend has. "Bam, bam and ... by." Oh, shozh, we made a blunder, ayyay. Tolley is the case of the Israeli Nazis, they saw a donkey in Gaza, and bam, bam to school with the children. And there is no school and no children. Soon, your bearded, needle-shaped brothers will run from the blows to the terrain. where they are prepared, fed, armed, treated. The bases and places of deployment of terrorists should be destroyed. Here with your own eyes and you will see, bam, bam this "... by" or straight.
    11. Pavel_J
      Pavel_J 3 October 2015 21: 01
      +1
      Who else but you should know that if goals can be achieved by cheap means, why spend money on something expensive? Our economy is weaker than the NATO economy, we do not want to scatter savages with expensive high-precision weapons. Although, of course, an ordinary bomb can be dropped precisely, probably, but pilots know better, they will practice and the hits will be more accurate. And we have enough FAB reserves of all numbers, thanks to the great ancestors.
      1. Professor
        Professor 3 October 2015 21: 12
        -2
        Quote: Pavel_J
        Who else but you should know that if goals can be achieved by cheap means, why spend money on something expensive?

        Not a dock. If it’s cheap, they would send Corncrackers with cheap bombs, and send modern expensive Su-34s with cheap ancient bombs. Where is the logic?


  11. Barboskin
    Barboskin 1 October 2015 06: 39
    +9
    The author correctly illuminated the essence of what was happening, getting involved in the war, we did the right thing, but do not succumb to both decadent and capricious moods. Reasoning soberly, our chances are very good, if only the Americans would not toss the pig, and they will try. Most likely MANPADs to throw the bandits down, for starters.
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 1 October 2015 06: 58
      +1
      Quote: Barboskin
      Most likely MANPADs to throw the bandits down, for starters.

      Well yes, the story repeats itself ...
      1. SokolfromRussia
        SokolfromRussia 1 October 2015 13: 24
        0
        If ours will work outside the "ceiling" of MANPADS, it is not so bad. But Ivanov, for example, has already stated that helicopters will take part in attacks on Islamists ...
    2. albert
      albert 1 October 2015 20: 44
      +1
      Any two-edged sword. You can also fire American planes with MANPADS. We can also give Assad rockets so that he can shoot Yankees in such a way. And to say that it was ISIS. And let Kerry try to prove the opposite.
      1. Professor
        Professor 1 October 2015 20: 57
        0
        Quote: albert
        With MANPADS, American planes can also be fired.

        The Stingers militias will sort out the type, extract the AN / PPX-1 IFF system (friend or foe) and assemble it again. wassat
        1. Hell's Angel
          Hell's Angel 2 October 2015 08: 16
          0
          Why break the Stinger. They can accidentally and "Arrow" hit. From some Iraqi warehouses.
  12. Glot
    Glot 1 October 2015 06: 41
    +3
    Let's see what happens. But we have yet another chance to strengthen our influence in the world and once again wipe America’s nose. The case is necessary for the country!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 09: 12
      +6
      Quote: Glot
      . But we have yet another chance to strengthen our influence in the world and once again wipe America’s nose. The case is necessary for the country!

      And I'm still waiting for the economy of our country to strengthen, the well-being of our people will grow - this is really a "Business Needed for the Country", and "wipe America's nose" - let it wipe it for itself, if in snot ... hi
      1. Glot
        Glot 1 October 2015 10: 50
        +1
        And I'm still waiting for the economy of our country to strengthen, the well-being of our people will grow - this is really a "Business Needed for the Country", and "wipe America's nose" - let it wipe it for itself, if in snot ...


        And you do not wait, you work better. What to expect then?
        It is necessary to work, vyё ****** and welfare will increase. laughing
        And to sit and wait, "when will the master raise me" laughing is empty.
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 1 October 2015 11: 12
          +4
          Quote: Glot
          It is necessary to work, vyё ****** and welfare will increase.

          I wonder whose?
          1. Hell's Angel
            Hell's Angel 1 October 2015 11: 44
            +1
            Need to work. Good call, I hear him all the time. But your answer is probably the only correct one.
            Let's all join the business! And we will stick to the seventh sweat. Only here in the factories and in the field, someone will also need to work. Or they do not work. Again, the army and other power structures, pensioners.
            Although, maybe Glot is a shareholder of JSC Gazprom?
            1. Glot
              Glot 1 October 2015 14: 08
              +2
              Although, maybe Glot is a shareholder of JSC Gazprom?


              Nah, I'm working as a loader.
              Picked up, uploaded, and so on. laughing
              Yes, for uncle, yes a little money. But do not whine. I work.
              What I wish to everyone, not to whine and not wait for "manna from heaven" (you won't wait for it !!) but to work.
              And sometimes he worked at two jobs when his wife was on maternity leave. And nothing, did not whine and did not expect "gifts from my uncle."
              And nothing, we do not live tight. Yes, it’s hard, but who doesn’t. Yes, it happens from ZP to ZP you barely pull, but it happens and vice versa. Anyway.
              And there is a new Nissan Nissan, and I’m going to put the house in a year on the ground. Unless of course, I don’t guess.
              That's how we live.
              Is there little money? Don't you want to work for your uncle?
              Who prevents to change everything? Now you can become someone, or no one, you can open your own business. There are prospects, of course, if you want.
              I won’t tell you about Gazprom, it’s probably hard to get stuck in there now, it had to be moved earlier. laughing
              Something like that. smile
              1. Hell's Angel
                Hell's Angel 1 October 2015 19: 02
                0
                What a fellow! But for more than 20 years of service, I haven’t earned anything other than hemorrhoids. That apartment may be given for retirement. It seems like I have the right by law, but you know ... State. the rewards do not count, for them they pay a very small percentage of the salary. Oh, I forgot. 2500 rubles as WBD, the monetization of benefits is called.
                Maybe you're lucky in retirement. Then "there is a new Nissan, and I am going to put a house in a year later on the ground."
                But to be honest, I have no regrets!
                1. Glot
                  Glot 1 October 2015 19: 31
                  0
                  But to be honest, I have no regrets!


                  This is the most important thing, do not regret anything.
                  An acquaintance of mine, he sat on the "Window" in Tadzhik, then everything was written off ... I transferred to the Emergencies Ministry, they gave me an apartment in the suburbs. Then he somehow got lost, now he reappeared, he works as a manager in a bourgeois golf club or something. In general, he does not grieve, there is order with money. ))
                  But again, it’s clear that not everyone is settling.
                  And as for the pension, then here I think we need to have time to build / deliver / buy everything now, since then everything is all right, you won’t be able to.
                  1. Verum
                    Verum 2 October 2015 04: 32
                    +1
                    Colleague, you believe the "angel of hell" more! A very interesting character is a "veteran" who, according to him, rose to the rank of captain being a superman who is steeper than only boiled eggs and who does not know the guts of a machine gun in his arsenal, an "IPSC instructor" who has a fixed weapon (that is, bought for his own money) and whose eyes not seen in the shooting club "Siberia", "fire training instructor" in a non-existent unit of non-existing troops (the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, UFSIN, the RF Armed Forces are not about him), the "great charismatic" gets everything he does not ask for. But in reality, "couch yap - ordinary." Be careful!
                    1. Verum
                      Verum 2 October 2015 06: 38
                      0
                      Especially when he begins to speak in all sorts of merit and evidence of "heroism".
                      For example:
                      Quote: angel of hell
                      Gos. the rewards do not count, for them they pay a very small percentage of the salary. Oh, I forgot. 2500 rubles as WBD, the monetization of benefits is called.

                      Despite the fact that the "angel" claims that he is not an employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and only the Ministry of Internal Affairs pays interest to the salary for awards, namely 5% for medals, for "George" - 10%, for the star of the Hero - 25%. In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, a one-time allowance is paid for awards upon receipt and dismissal from service. At the expense of monetization, he is also disingenuous, because Novosibirsk gives cash to the EDV for renting housing and utility services, if housing was registered earlier than 2005 at the expense of the federal budget and all sorts of additional payments from the city. This is how this gentleman knows about the realities of war veterans in Novosibirsk.
          2. Kaiten
            Kaiten 1 October 2015 22: 42
            0
            Quote: rosarioagro
            I wonder whose?

            is our:)
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  13. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 1 October 2015 06: 43
    +2
    Quote: Author Roman Skomorokhov
    And in this regard, indeed, complete approval and understanding. What, in fact, I wish for everyone else. Why not beat up fanatics of the basest kind from the air? Ensuring the safety of our pilots, especially "if something happens."

    All right said. After all, these are not only fanatics, but also our absolutely possible enemies.
  14. Smoke
    Smoke 1 October 2015 06: 44
    +2
    The forces that provoked Maidan and the civil war in Syria 4 years ago have now nothing to lose, too much has already been invested, so in Syria we’ll go on a campaign for a couple of months, we’ll definitely not be able to cope there - remember the experience of the Caucasus, and there’s more territory . We need a set of measures, Assad needs his Kadyrov in Syria, he needs to help Syria financially, so that pensions are paid, hospitals work, in short, do everything so that people in Syria understand that only Assad’s support will give them a chance for a normal life. Will Russia pull such a serious financial burden? I doubt it, and if you have to call on China or even the same Western partners, you still have to share a piece of Syrian pie ...
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 1 October 2015 06: 59
      0
      Quote: Smoke
      Assad needs his Kadyrov in Syria, he needs to help Syria financially, so that pensions are paid, hospitals work, in short, do everything so that people in Syria understand that only Assad’s support will give them a chance for a normal life.

      And as they said about Ukraine, they say we’ll get 40 million parasites, but Syria’s money is easy
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 07: 01
        +5
        Quote: rosarioagro
        And as they said about Ukraine, they say we’ll get 40 million parasites,

        And who said that, liberals from the Echo of Moscow.
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 1 October 2015 07: 06
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And who said that, liberals from the Echo of Moscow.

          I don’t know what about the Echo of Moscow, but on this site this argument was quite frequent, among other patriotic speeches
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 1 October 2015 08: 25
            +6
            Quote: rosarioagro
            I don’t know what about the Echo of Moscow, but on this site this argument was quite frequent, among other patriotic speeches

            The arguments here are generally strange. When they "angrily condemned" the French air raid on ISIS positions, they wrote about the inevitable casualties among the civilian population and destroyed cities. Today they propose to use "Pinocchio" in these very cities, and this causes amicable approval! Strange how that request
            Quod licet jovi non licet bovi
            1. AlNikolaich
              AlNikolaich 1 October 2015 08: 55
              +3
              About Ukrainian freeloaders and Syria ... I see a significant difference! If the Syrians with their
              four years ago, the president chose the path of struggle, and they follow it, then the descendants of the ancients
              ukrov the same should decide what they need! Judging by what is now, and this
              support for the Poroshenko regime, approval of the Maidan and the drive to Russia, no support for them
              no need to render! Now, when the national liberation movement ripens in the ruin, then
              and we can talk about support!
              1. rosarioagro
                rosarioagro 1 October 2015 09: 01
                +1
                Quote: AlNikolaich
                That's when the national liberation movement ripens in ruin

                Yes, but why is it ripening, where is the organizing beginning, or is it like talking about a market that itself will regulate everything? While there is no incentive to do this (well, there is no oil or gas on an industrial scale) they won’t do it, it’s not the USSR, it’s capitalism, where at the beginning there’s
            2. BMW
              BMW 1 October 2015 08: 58
              +1
              Quote: Bayonet
              Today they propose to use "Pinocchio" in these very cities, and this causes amicable approval! Strange how that


              Really request

              And if you recall that a week ago everyone agreed on a maximum supply of arms, then yesterday they were ready to introduce all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there. Doubly request
    2. BMW
      BMW 1 October 2015 08: 53
      0
      Quote: Smoke
      in Syria, we hike for a long time, for a couple of three months there just can not handle


      2-3 years, and ideally, I think much longer.
      for 2-3 months you need to introduce a couple of armies and that is not a fact.
  15. Revolver
    Revolver 1 October 2015 06: 46
    20
    Assad is not some kind of rogue, there are enough resources to pay in case of success.
    Has he ever paid off? What about his dad? To whom are $ 10,000,000,000 debts written off?
    Yes, in general, at least one of the Arab rulers paid for anything before Russia / USSR? The same Gaddafi, although swimming in petrodollars, preferred to borrow from Russia. How now to get from a dead woman? And in Yasser Arafat how many more since Soviet times have swollen? Well, where is the return?
    So pursuing geopolitical goals in the region is one thing, and counting on monetary return is another. Negative on health - from this the Arabs of Russia should not become less anyway, and they will not return a cent.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 06: 53
      +5
      Quote: Nagan
      To whom are $ 10,000,000,000 debts written off?

      And the USA to whom they wrote off, at least something?
      And how much is the US debt?
      When will you give it back?
      Quote: Nagan
      and reckoning on a monetary return is quite another.

      This is so American.
      Quote: Nagan
      Minus health -

      What a generosity
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 1 October 2015 07: 20
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the USA to whom they wrote off, at least something?

        The leaders of the Russian State unfortunately never do that. They do not learn from the enemy, but in vain. They somehow prefer to rip off their people. A tragic mistake.
        1. BMW
          BMW 1 October 2015 09: 03
          +2
          Quote: Krasmash
          Somehow they prefer to rip off their people. A tragic mistake


          No, this is a criminal tradition. It has been so established for us for centuries. It is necessary to beat their own, so that strangers would get diarrhea from laughter.
          1. Krasmash
            Krasmash 1 October 2015 19: 18
            +1
            Quote: bmw
            Quote: Krasmash
            Somehow they prefer to rip off their people. A tragic mistake


            No, this is a criminal tradition. It has been so established for us for centuries. It is necessary to beat their own, so that strangers would get diarrhea from laughter.

            That is how it is
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 1 October 2015 07: 29
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the USA to whom they wrote off, at least something?
        Yes, Parashenko was also written off 20%, and in my opinion the taxpayer was completely in vain, but, as you know, they did not ask me

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And how much is the US debt?

        http://www.usadebtclock.com/
        and again, I won’t say that when I saw this, I was very happy.sad

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        When will you give it back?

        When it is recorded in a debt obligation, then it will be paid off. Not a day earlier, not a day later.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is so American.
        Do not deny.yes
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What a generosity
        And then!tongue
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 09: 37
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          Yes, Parashenko also wrote off 20%,

          wassat
    2. noWAR
      noWAR 1 October 2015 07: 24
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      $ 10,000,000,000
      Dear, you didn’t find a larger font, well, or at least they converted into rubles or something hi
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 08: 36
      +6
      Quote: Nagan
      at least one of the Arab rulers paid for anything before Russia / USSR?

      Characteristically, not a single normal individual from a frankly speaking rich family, where he has enough of his own problems, will not borrow money left and right, almost certainly knowing that they will not be returned to him. She will not forgive debts to everyone, but on a national scale - please, as much as you like, sir! request
      1. Owl27
        Owl27 1 October 2015 08: 47
        +2
        For free only cats will be born.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 October 2015 06: 51
    +7
    If I had my way, I would give Assad the Buratin regiment.

    It seems to me that Assad will not only be supplied with tanks and armored personnel carriers. The fact that the Russian Air Force began to strike already indicates that there will be no looking back to the west in the supply of weapons. Enrages another. Before our time to strike at ISIS, Western media began to print pre-prepared nonsense and photos from the Germans, supposedly damaged by Russian air strikes. Maybe it's time to move on to a tougher reaction. There are probably opportunities to bring these journalists and publications to justice through international justice. In addition to the refutation, claim N for the moral damage caused to the country.
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 1 October 2015 07: 22
      +4
      The offer is good, but not real. We will not get out of the "impartial" courts, but there will be no results. There are a lot of paid clickers. The genre of lies and slander has long been worked out.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 1 October 2015 09: 56
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Maybe it's time to move on to a tougher reaction. There are probably opportunities to bring these journalists and publications to justice through international justice. In addition to the refutation, claim N for the moral damage caused to the country.

      bully It can be stupid to score and how Americans respond saying they beat terrorists, all the videos presented are fake of the same terrorists. Moreover, for any attack, briefly in two sentences, even if they boil with ssat or demonstrations, it’s stupid to score. The dog barks, the caravan goes.
  17. Flinky
    Flinky 1 October 2015 06: 56
    +4
    So, Russia was dragged into the war.

    One more ... How did they drag us in, let me ask?
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 October 2015 07: 16
    +9
    It is clear that Assad will not pay for help with money. A well-calculated and well-prepared GDP plan has been put in place.
    IMHO, with Syria - everything is clear. We must think for Iraq. If you do not crush it, there will remain an abscess. The Iraqis have already missed our planes, created a coordination center in Baghdad, so will they really not call? And then you’ll have to ask a lot from the Türkic region. Without Erdogan there could not have done. And without Jordan.
    But first, the Turks. "Turkish Stream" - this, as I understand it, was a lure for Turkey. To stop. But the smuggled oil turned out to be "tastier".
    Well then, don't be offended. Oil, as I understand it, will no longer be smuggled. They will burn from the air all that is needed. And there will be no gas! And the vindictive Syria will not let Qatari gas pass through itself. Oh, and hiccup the Turks' imperial ambitions. And they will continue to be misunderstood - so they live with 15 million Kurds.
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 1 October 2015 07: 21
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Oil, as I understand it, will no longer be smuggled. They will burn from the air all that is needed. And there will be no gas!

      Ek, you swung at the sacred, here because of the Mariupol factories everything was suspended, and you are on oil and gas, this is the basis of the present universe, Saddam was hanged for such things
    2. link
      link 1 October 2015 08: 33
      +4
      You mentioned oil correctly here. It is she who is the real reason for Russia's involvement in the conflict. All this "aid to Assad" is for a diversion. Ever since the times of the Russian-Turkish war, it is clear that all this aid for liberation is not a horse's forage. Won Bulgaria was liberated by the Russian army in the 18th century from the Turks, so what? In two world wars, Bulgaria opposed Russia, and now it crap ...
      As Mikhail Zhvanevsky wrote: "Work has begun on landscaping ... These works are not for landscaping!" So here ... The main goal of Putin (whatever the media and political scientists of all stripes say now) is to influence the oil market by military means. High oil prices are vitally important for Russia. Otherwise, a gradual fall into an economic tailspin will turn into a peak ...
      1. rosarioagro
        rosarioagro 1 October 2015 08: 51
        0
        Quote: link
        this is a military effect on the oil market. High oil prices are vital to Russia.

        Well, here you’re not really influencing the price, Syria is not such an oil player, of course there are hydrocarbons, such as on the shelf, but what's the point if there is an excess in the market and no one will reduce production because of the fear of losing their share in the market is not going, yesterday the price climbed down due to reports of an increase in US oil reserves
        1. link
          link 1 October 2015 10: 17
          +1
          What does Syria have to do with it? ISIS pumps Iraqi oil in the occupied territories and sells it cheap to everyone, which reduces global prices. I am writing here from the phone (I’m in the blanc), so I can’t put out a schedule of oil price quotes, but you can see for yourself. Starting from September 29.09, oil prices began to grow daily ...
          1. rosarioagro
            rosarioagro 1 October 2015 10: 21
            0
            Quote: link
            ISIS pumps Iraqi oil in the occupied territories and sells it cheap to everyone, which reduces global prices.

            Well, and how does he deliver it to the consumer, is this fraction so small that it can be neglected?
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 08: 44
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They will burn from the air all that is needed.

      So far they haven’t burned, but it would be necessary! After all, this is about 2 million dollars a day for the needs of ISIS!
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 1 October 2015 09: 52
        +5
        They will burn it, they will not burn it ... what kind of gangster words.
        While they will bomb ISIS, their futures contracts may fail.
        While misunderstandings will resolve, the price of oil (possibly) will rise.
        We will get a ruble profit, two - a loss.
        ....
        I’ll just say it again - they dragged us in, did not drag us in, but our pilots are already there. And they are already working.
        Let the guys have luck. And success.
        ....
        And once again Russia has a hole in its belt. How many humanitarian aid workers have already been driven to the Donbass, more than 40.
        So, I think that one combat sortie of a pair of Ears is two or three convoys at a price.
        But, in the Donbass, even our people can be fed.
        And in Syria?
        It is nice, of course, that somewhere there, on the edge of the Oikumens, the Zulus say - Russia, this is O-O-O-O .... it helps everyone. Who asks helps.
        Who does not ask - even more helps.
        .
        I do not give a damn about the opinions of the Zulus, Incas and other abreks.
        I would like everything in Russia to be tip-top.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 1 October 2015 10: 03
          +2
          Quote: Bashibuzuk
          I do not give a damn about the opinions of the Zulus, Incas and other abreks.
          I would like everything in Russia to be tip-top.

          what I’m wondering if everything will be tip-top if Syria is overwhelmed with support from Amers, then Iran, through Turks and Georgians, will get into our Caucasus — trained ISIS fighters, and also Tajikistan and Turkmenistan are nearby, Kazakhstan — you also suggest not to climb if what?
          And there certainly will not be enough support from the air and artillery.
        2. Kvazar
          Kvazar 1 October 2015 12: 22
          +5
          1. If Syria falls. You’ll already be at war on the borders of the CSTO (Tajikistan, the Caucasus, Abkhazia, Ossetia, Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan) and this is in the best case. And you will die! If there’s a minor conflict in Syria there, on the day of the loss of 500 people from both sides (which means at least 150 corpses daily and 350 wounded).
          2. In the event Syria falls, gas and oil pipelines will be led through it (due to Assad's refusal to conduct them and the war started). And the Russian Federation will then be on a leak in the truest sense of the word.
          3. Loss of control of the maritime and air base in the Mediterranean.
          4. The loss of the most delicious pieces of Syria (the coast is the cherry of Syria and now we are there with the Alawites loyal to us).
          Now, take the calculator in your hands and think that it’s more profitable for us.
          1. rosarioagro
            rosarioagro 1 October 2015 12: 30
            -2
            Quote: Kvazar
            Now, take the calculator in your hands and think that it’s more profitable for us.

            Of course, Gazprom’s current share in the European market is now more profitable, because the people are dying for their interests in Syria, although most probably guess it
            1. xan
              xan 1 October 2015 14: 04
              0
              Quote: rosarioagro
              Of course, Gazprom’s current share in the European market is now more profitable, because the people are dying for their interests in Syria, although most probably guess it

              Offended, they did not take Gazprom into the shareholders?
              Sometimes the written can say almost everything about the writer. You are either stupid or troll.
    4. Stena
      Stena 1 October 2015 12: 15
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It is clear that Assad will not pay for help with money. A well-calculated and well-prepared GDP plan has been put in place.
      IMHO, with Syria - everything is clear. We must think for Iraq.

      Here is a strategist! You can be stunned! You, dear, better think for the Moscow region. And then, beyond the Crimea, Leningrad, Voronezh, etc. And then your problems are higher than the roof, and you suggest strangers to solve ... We must start small, right?
  19. Dimka999
    Dimka999 1 October 2015 07: 18
    0
    Something seems to me that Russia zrch climbed into this catastrophe .... God forbid that I make a mistake ....
  20. Dimka999
    Dimka999 1 October 2015 07: 21
    +2
    If there China was for Russia finally it was cool .... the United States in horror ...
    1. Dimka999
      Dimka999 1 October 2015 07: 47
      +2
      Who put me a minus?
      Is it bad that Russia and China could become allies?
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 1 October 2015 07: 51
        +1
        Quote: Dimka999
        Who put me a minus?
        Is it bad that Russia and China could become allies?

        Russia and China welded together by Kazakhstan is a force that will be difficult to defeat.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 1 October 2015 08: 17
          +1
          Russia, Kazakhstan, China are countries in which IS supporters have a place to be. And geographically, too, is a situation requiring action in the indicated direction. I do not think that Russia acts on its own, and Kazakhstan and China will be indifferent.
  21. tracer
    tracer 1 October 2015 07: 31
    10
    I remember how troops were brought into Afghanistan (at the request of the fraternal people). And Islam whispered all about the fact that if they had not entered there, they would have put bright nuclear missiles. Like well that they had time. The result we all know. The troops completed their task only politicians led by Gorbachev betrayed all this. In Syria, it is necessary to stop this robber rabble of thugs from around the world. To reduce as much as possible the number of 6 Bedouins and other rabble trained by specialists from MI. Isil created and armed to capture Central Asia. This is Syria, a warm-up before a serious seizure of the Central Asian republics. Only here an easy walk did not work. Syria is fighting for its independence and the right of people to remain human beings. We must help the Syrians win.
  22. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 1 October 2015 07: 51
    +2
    The main thing here is not to get into the Sunni - Shiite showdown. We have our own Muslims already 20 million + visitors.
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 1 October 2015 08: 52
      +1
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      The main thing here is not to get into the Sunni - Shiite showdown.

      as if already
  23. BMW
    BMW 1 October 2015 07: 55
    +3
    Roman, I have always read your articles with interest, but this article is your failure.

    oil and gas contracts


    With this, and it was necessary to begin. As regards Russia-24 in the economic block, it was announced that before the war, $ 4 billion had been invested in Syria by five of our companies in oil and gas projects, and everything went to pieces. Now there is only one left. It doesn't seem to you that we got stuck there precisely for this reason, and everything is much more banal, this is a war for resources.

    And all the igil blacks can quite easily come to visit us.


    And you don’t think that the FSB should simply be engaged in its direct work, and not protecting the business, I’m silent about the rest of the "good" cases.


    Yes, there are a lot of them, but they still do not have normal air defense.


    A month will not pass, as we will have problems with this.

    air war and arms supplies.


    You think so? A year will not pass, as we begin to slowly introduce troops there.

    Unlike the situation in the same Crimea, in Syria our legitimate incumbent asked for our military assistance


    Firstly, there was a referendum that was officially recognized by the observers as democratic and free, and all of Kotovasia was brewed later. Secondly, they forgot about the request of Yanukovych, who was also legitimate.

    Our problems are just beginning. But really, since we were forced to go to war, we can only win.


    Now nothing else remains and join

    And wish success and lack of loss to those of our soldiers who entered this war.
    1. Kaiten
      Kaiten 1 October 2015 09: 04
      +2
      BMW - 100%
      I absolutely agree with you. That is exactly how things are in Syria and look when viewed from our garden.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 October 2015 09: 12
        +2
        Quote: Kaiten
        BMW - 100%

        Oh hello to potential drinking companions. How are you?
        Here toho-etoho tongue
        Tehran and Moscow have entered into a series of contracts for the supply of Iran with Russian aerospace equipment in the amount of $ 21 billion. This was stated in an interview with Sputnik by the head of the Iranian National Space Center Manushehr Manteki.
        Do not read the Israeli press in the morning wassat
        1. BMW
          BMW 1 October 2015 12: 47
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Oh hello to potential drinking buddies


          I don’t use it, and I do not advise you.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Tehran and Moscow have entered into a series of contracts for the supply of Iran with Russian aerospace equipment in the amount of $ 21 billion.


          He would have been imprisoned with a smart approach. Or, in principle, this approach cannot be, but is war the only way to get a contract?

          This war is a defense of the interests of the oil oligarchs, and not like Russia. In addition, it will be possible to attribute to it all the prosers in domestic politics and the mediocrity of foreign ones, because sanctions will not be lifted. We went on a campaign about Israel. I read comments from Israel and the USA, and I got the feeling that they either sympathize with the wretched, or laugh at idiots. The postulate is simple - you need a small victorious war. Well, time will tell, maybe I'm wrong. But you just need to remember the story and not make mistakes. Remember the cycle - 100 years !!!! recourse
        2. Kaiten
          Kaiten 1 October 2015 23: 01
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Oh hello to potential drinking companions. How are you?

          Hi, things are excellent, +30 on the street, the sea, entrecote and cherry beer. About ISIS - bomb them to Benin's mom.

          Regarding Iran, supply them with so much equipment so that they all fly away to Benin’s mother.

          Regarding Nathanhu, tell Bena that his mother will have guests soon.
      2. BMW
        BMW 1 October 2015 09: 22
        +2
        Quote: Kaiten
        That is exactly how things are in Syria and look when viewed from our garden.


        I understand your joy, but we can leave from there, and then ISIS will become your direct problem, which we will have to deal with ourselves.

        I think that by the presidential election we will either expel them from Syria (which I doubt) or we will leave from there. Then you butt.
        1. Kaiten
          Kaiten 1 October 2015 23: 33
          0
          Quote: bmw
          I understand your joy, but we can leave from there, and then ISIS will become your direct problem, which we will have to deal with ourselves.


          Why are you leaving so fast? Do not even drink tea?


          Quote: bmw

          I think that for the presidential election or we will expel them from Syria (of which I doubt)

          Put aside the decadent mood. For this, according to the laws of wartime, do you know what is supposed to be?

          Quote: bmw

          , or leave from there.

          Why did they come then if they left so quickly?


          Quote: bmw

          Then you butt.

          Yes, I know, the United States has already leaked Israel. I urgently bought a ticket to Birobidzhan. Wait. I’m taking matzo to local Evenks.
  24. Wolka
    Wolka 1 October 2015 08: 07
    +1
    but as for the use of Pinocchio, it’s a completely tempting idea, the igil thing is contagious and very tenacious, because it needs to be burned out, namely burned with hot iron, once and for all ...
  25. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 1 October 2015 08: 14
    +3
    I will not judge politics, I will say about weapons, it is necessary to modernize the old Soviet anti-aircraft system 57 mm with two barrels and deliver it to Syria, equip the Terminator with the same gun, put Pinocchio or Solntsepek, all this will be very useful to the Syrian army in battles in cities. Consider the issue and develop a system to combat the easy pickups used by terrorists, if they find ways to destroy these vehicles, their mobility will decrease dramatically. By the way, and we need to have such systems in limited numbers in the troops of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs - in the VV. And for pilots, MEN good luck and a clear sky.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 09: 31
      0
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      Put Pinocchio or Solntsepek, all this is very useful to the Syrian army in battles in cities.

      And let me give you, as an answer, a quote from yesterday’s polemic about the actions of French aviation. I hope the author of the comment will not mind, for it is said for sure.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 09: 35
      +2
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      Consider the issue and develop a system to combat light pickups used by terrorists, if they find ways to destroy these vehicles, their mobility will drop sharply .. By the way, we need to have such systems in limited numbers in the troops of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs - in the VV.

      And why invent foxes - the good old "Shilka" sweeps these pickups like a broom! You can of course try to make this system on a wheeled chassis.smile
  26. GUKTU
    GUKTU 1 October 2015 08: 15
    +1
    One thing that bothers you so far is that US aviation, Australia, and others are quietly violating the airspace of a sovereign state without government permission. I wonder how our experts and the Assad government will deal with them (violators)
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 1 October 2015 09: 16
      +2
      Quote: GUKTU
      I wonder how our experts and the Assad government will deal with them (violators)

      And it depends on who they work for. hi
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  28. Mera joota
    Mera joota 1 October 2015 08: 27
    -1
    Strange optimism. Russia got into another war without ending the war in Ukraine. My personal opinion is that the war in Syria is needed to distract the masses from the unfinished LPNR project and potential problems in Crimea. Yes, while this new project has some (cautious, unlike Ukraine) support among the people, but the very first coffins (and they are obvious) can change the mood to the exact opposite. The weapons that Russia began to supply to Syria does not differ much from what Assad had, a radical turning point will not happen, because the main thing is people, this is Assad's most important deficit. A ground operation is indispensable, and these are losses and, moreover, large (for us). Almost everyone who has unsubscribed here clearly will not run to the military registration and enlistment office to sign up for the "great Arab war", hoping that 20-year-old boys, in a patriotic impulse, will do it themselves ...
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 1 October 2015 11: 44
      -2
      Both there and there will have to fight. VPR while Ukraine has stretched the rubber, so in Syria can not be postponed.
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    3. corporal
      corporal 1 October 2015 18: 02
      -1
      Quote: Mera Joota
      but the very first coffins (and they are obvious) can change the mood to the exact opposite.

      Was it in vain that recently, the Chief signed a law on classifying military losses?
      Forgot such a small detail?
  29. zinander
    zinander 1 October 2015 08: 44
    +3
    Everything is correct Roman. All that remains is to win. May God grant this infection before it is too late.
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  31. dojjdik
    dojjdik 1 October 2015 08: 47
    +2
    idle talk that they do not have air defense - there is the latest PZRK; but if you really started to help with aviation, then you have to fight and not play war games like in Afghanistan; Ivanov’s words that our pilots will quickly spread the Ishilov’s men must be understood not to be thrown into the wind; because we hope for the high professionalism of our pilots; and to some extent on Assad warriors
  32. Artur.05
    Artur.05 1 October 2015 08: 49
    -2
    deep optimism. Russia got into another war without ending the war in Ukraine. My personal opinion is that the war in Syria is needed to distract the masses from the unfinished LPNR project and potential problems in Crimea. Yes, while this new project has some (cautious, unlike Ukraine) support among the people, but the very first coffins (and they are obvious) can change the mood to the exact opposite. The weapons that Russia began to supply to Syria does not differ much from what Assad had, a radical turning point will not happen, because the main thing is people, this is Assad's most important deficit. A ground operation is indispensable, and these are losses and, moreover, large (for us). Almost everyone who has unsubscribed here clearly will not run to the military registration and enlistment office to sign up for the "great Arab war", hoping that 20-year-old boys, in a patriotic impulse, will do it themselves ...
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 1 October 2015 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: Artur.05
      deep optimism. Russia got into another war without ending the war in Ukraine. My personal opinion is that the war in Syria is needed to distract the masses from the unfinished LPNR project and potential problems in Crimea. Yes, while this new project has some (cautious, unlike Ukraine) support among the people, but the very first coffins (and they are obvious) can change the mood to the exact opposite. The weapons that Russia began to supply to Syria does not differ much from what Assad had, a radical turning point will not happen, because the main thing is people, this is Assad's most important deficit. A ground operation is indispensable, and these are losses and, moreover, large (for us). Almost everyone who has unsubscribed here clearly will not run to the military registration and enlistment office to sign up for the "great Arab war", hoping that 20-year-old boys, in a patriotic impulse, will do it themselves ...

      Fantastic blindness and deafness.
      It was said loudly and clearly (in Russian) that a land military operation in Syria was not expected, that conscripts would not take part in hostilities.
      What the fuck is a distraction from Ukraine? There is enough gas tap to shut off and Ales. It can simply be brought to its knees by economic methods, which, in principle, has already been done. There is a completely different game. It was important to show that the current government is worth nothing and this was clearly manifested at the UN: Obama refused to meet with Poroshenko, does not want to give money, Khokhlyat delegation in the shoulders by crowds from the conference room and the cop blew his nose into a ragged rag, American banks are preparing at full speed default of Ukraine ...
      But entering a military operation into the territory of Ukraine would be a mistake. And only lazy did not discuss it.
      But it is necessary to deal with ISIS at far borders, until, indeed, they have returned to their countries and brought problems.
      As for the weapons supplied to Syria, who knows what will be field tests? And it is not at all a fact that Buratiny and Solntsepёki will not run around the field and will not add heat to the Syrian climate.
  33. Engineer
    Engineer 1 October 2015 09: 02
    +1
    The title is not correct! Not dragged, and she herself deliberately declared war on the IG. These are different things. It is strange that the author does not understand this.
    1. Darwin
      Darwin 1 October 2015 09: 34
      0
      And you see specials in Syria
  34. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 1 October 2015 09: 03
    +2
    But we won’t get out of the war, there will be a series of wars. Too we interfere with the West.
  35. gridasov
    gridasov 1 October 2015 09: 05
    +2
    The "Slavic beast" was shaken for a long time. Therefore, now Russia does not just have to and is obliged to WIN. But it is also significant to WIN in such a way that the next generation will know that we are shaken for a long time, but we are quickly and mercilessly behaving in battle.
  36. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 1 October 2015 09: 21
    +1
    Quote: samoletil18
    Professor from our site,

    Well, remember the little thing,
    he appeared, breed srach, pah, pah, pah, rot unclean!
  37. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 1 October 2015 09: 25
    +2
    [quote = Mera Joota] Strange optimism. Russia got into another war without ending the war in Ukraine. Personally, my opinion

    You correctly noticed, this is your opinion, here my opinion does not coincide with yours. At the moment, Russia is not waging a war at all, at least see Ukrosmi and the Air Force.
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    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 1 October 2015 09: 44
      -1
      Quote: Serge Boss
      You correctly noticed, this is your opinion, here my opinion does not coincide with yours.

      I’m not trying to impose it on you, think it your own way, well, please.
      Quote: Serge Boss
      less Ukrosmi and the Air Force all look.

      I have friends in Chita and Rostov, the first (Buryat) reported that he has friends who fought near Debaltseve, the second himself went to the DPR (not to fight, his mother there, according to convictions for the DPR) told what and how. By the way, he said that he had seen how trains with tanks were going with the DPR, the tanks were dirty, they were clearly taking the equipment home. Based on this, I draw conclusions, which are again purely mine, maybe there are other explanations, but they are not obvious to me.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 1 October 2015 10: 15
        0
        Quote: Mera Joota
        By the way, he said that he had seen how trains with tanks were going with the DPR, the tanks were dirty, they were clearly taking the equipment home. Based on this, I draw conclusions, which are again purely mine, maybe there are other explanations, but they are not obvious to me.

        laughing Well, well, let someone else tell you about poplar cheburators and armats, the Americans and Europeans have not been able to present any evidence for the second year about the supply of military supplies, and your friend saw straight trains with tanks. And my neighbor, Baba Zoya, saw how they build a Death Star at a secret factory near St. Petersburg, builders say they will fly to Ukraine to restore order next year ...
        According to the agreement, the tanks are assigned to the second one, if you’re talking about it, they further suggested withdrawing guns with a caliber of 100 mm or less.
  38. gridasov
    gridasov 1 October 2015 09: 29
    +2
    I think it’s worth understanding that when your country was lined with military bases with offensive weapons, the best tactical way is to decide to withdraw your bases to the rear of these groups. And Syria is such. And one should not be afraid of this and tremble before thinking who and what after that will say about us. National Priorities Above All! And the point!
  39. Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 1 October 2015 09: 40
    0
    So Russia was dragged into the war, not yet completely .. But this is only the beginning. So far, only air, but the war never goes as planned! As they dreamed of .. As in 1905, 1914, as in Afghanistan .. Now they will provide maximum assistance to all Syrian bandits, including air defense. What will happen when Russia begins to lose planes, when the Russians begin to cut off their heads on the air ... But they lost Ukraine. The most important geopolitical problem remains unresolved. How can one get involved in a war with such a head of the Central Bank, with such a fifth column !! ??
  40. Averias
    Averias 1 October 2015 09: 42
    +2
    The article is normal, I have been reading the author for a long time. Only now the title pumped up a little, in my opinion (subjectively), it looks provocative, something like that. But again, the author sees it this way, he has the right. I was confused by something else, so much negative reaction. Excuse me, gentlemen, who (I am not personalizing someone now, the question is general), forgive me, earlier called on to help Assad and Syria? What was missing on the pages of this resource? Then I'm sorry, but how were we supposed to help? Is it just stupid to send weapons there? So they themselves have enough machines, but what about complex systems? I remember during the Georgian conflict that the ZK "Tor", "Buk" were served by the citizens of the country, where they love to burn tires. Since there were no specialists of their own, or very few at all. I got distracted. So how did we need to help?
  41. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 1 October 2015 09: 43
    0
    Quote: Kaiten
    view from our garden

    Watch the "gazers" so that they do not fly into your garden. It is better to sit on the priest straight.
  42. BlackDragon
    BlackDragon 1 October 2015 10: 07
    -1
    1. For Syria, it is necessary to fight. Still, the last ally in the region, and all that. Moreover, the most acceptable option has been chosen for this - war from the air and the supply of weapons. Moreover, it is possible to deliver in debt, Assad is not a rogue of some kind, there are enough resources to pay in case of success.

    how do propaganda ravings touch, and because of the impossibility of claiming a debt even before the civil war of 10 BILLION, those that were written off are nothing? Bagaty people scatter such money.
    2. Syria - it is not as far as it may seem.

    it is not far away, nothing that there is not a single common border and the minimum distance from Russia is 600 km, very close.
    3. Air operations against ISIS - this is still not quite a full-fledged war.

    Recently, the Russian Foreign Ministry has stated that it is impossible to defeat ISIS with air strikes, but why this farce and drawing into a civil war? Billions have nowhere to put (or rather steal from where left)?
    4. The political aspect.

    as I said, nothing but farce.
  43. shonsu
    shonsu 1 October 2015 10: 28
    +1
    only one point, religion in general, and Muslims in particular, have nothing to do with it. there were few crusades? all religions a priori teach the peaceful existence of people. and here people of different religions will be beaten by very specific persons and with certain goals.
  44. Corsair
    Corsair 1 October 2015 10: 42
    +7
    So many whiners and bookkeepers divorced on the site, horror takes, and if tomorrow we have a war, you’ll go immediately to give up, because it’s b..there are expenses, blasts for the wind, and even your apartment, cottage, your favorite car will explode ... More half of Afghanistan remembered as if they were direct participants, most probably from films and newspaper and television broadcasts of mega-minded journalist reporters and they know what was there and how it was. 15 thousand Soviet soldiers died in 10 years - 1500 a year - a lot, a lot, I agree - it’s dramatic. The guys did their duty to the motherland - this is their job - their risk, not our war, say - do you want ours? like in Chechnya or the Second World War? Are you ready for this? Ready to give all your earnings, get mobilized? A wife mother daughter will shells cartridges at the factory do? Are you ready to starve?
    But here are all the couch theorists (dragged, again, again, we pay money to all) and accountants for statistics:
    The total number of accidents, the number of dead and wounded (January-November 2014)
    Russian Federation
    Accident - 181 540
    Killed - 24
    Wounded - 228 855
    -
    Now count on average over 10 years - 240 thousand dead! (!) FINISH. Still cite numbers? For accidents?
    Let everyone carry out their work efficiently and will not think for those who are now at the helm. If oil drops to 20 bucks tomorrow, you too will grab all the grief, so you don’t have to think that you can build a fence and not go anywhere, don’t uphold your interests, and everyone will respect us and stop spitting.
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 1 October 2015 11: 17
      -1
      Quote: Corsair
      Let everyone carry out their work efficiently and will not think for those who are now at the helm.

      That's how, and what is it that you deny the electoral right to the electorate in such an interesting way, because he chooses the voter, thinks for who will be in power and generally with the money of the voter and the taxpayer, how can one not think, he’s a hired manager, it's accounting and control
  45. kirgudu
    kirgudu 1 October 2015 10: 53
    +2
    Drawn in did not draw in. In my opinion, troops should improve their experience not only in exercises, but also with a real enemy for sure. Yes, and today to engage in hand-to-hand combat is not necessary, everything is done remotely. And the Iranians and Syrians will fight with their feet.

    Moreover, weapons from the times of the USSR whose shelf life is coming to an end or has already come to an end - there is nowhere to go. And here you can also recycle it to good use.
  46. Russian_Bear
    Russian_Bear 1 October 2015 11: 13
    +2
    good afternoon
    Comrades, we are adults. I am a patriot and I am completely FOR supporting Assad, but you need to understand the current goals of IS and the p * ndos.
    The IG will do their utmost to try to bring down our plane, after which they will take the pilots captive, they will torture and mock shooting all this on video, and f * ck indices will surely help to bring down the plane.
    Unfortunately there will be losses, they cannot be avoided.
    We must pay tribute to the courage of our pilots who howl there for our PEACEFUL SKY!
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 1 October 2015 11: 48
      +2
      This is war, buddy. And if the IG comes to your house and takes the family hostage, I think it will be worse. The time begins when not everyone will be alive in the 10 year range.
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  47. Wils
    Wils 1 October 2015 11: 28
    17 th
    Quote: MainBeam
    Air operations against ISIS are after all not quite a full-fledged war... And in the case of a discussion of the ground participation of our troops in Syria, I would also yell as a victim.


    As I understand it, we will destroy ISIS not only with air strikes.



    In Syria, heavy rocket launchers of the BM-30 “Smerch” type were observed near the settlement of Gerdan (Al-Qerdaha) in the North of Syria.

    On the published photo of the representative of the Syrian armed forces next to the 9T234-2 transport-charging vehicle, the 9A52-2 and 300-mm launcher with rocket launchers from the BM-30 9-58 rocket launcher system
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 1 October 2015 11: 44
      +2
      Quote: Wheels
      Quote: MainBeam
      Air operations against ISIS are after all not quite a full-fledged war... And in the case of a discussion of the ground participation of our troops in Syria, I would also yell as a victim.


      As I understand it, we will destroy ISIS not only with air strikes.



      In Syria, heavy rocket launchers of the BM-30 “Smerch” type were observed near the settlement of Gerdan (Al-Qerdaha) in the North of Syria.

      On the published photo of the representative of the Syrian armed forces next to the 9T234-2 transport-charging vehicle, the 9A52-2 and 300-mm launcher with rocket launchers from the BM-30 9-58 rocket launcher system

      And I also "love you" very much, "comrade" provocateur
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 1 October 2015 11: 57
      0
      I think so, if it is very difficult for Russia to be in the south, we can shy away from tactical nuclear weapons. Therefore, I was opposed to criticizing US strikes in Japan at 45. It’s still useful. 10 strokes and silence.
  48. VadimSt
    VadimSt 1 October 2015 12: 12
    +3
    I do not understand! Why does Roman think that Russia has been "dragged into the war," maybe he has exclusive information that is not available to the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation?
    Russia has chosen the most optimal way to eliminate potential threats in the future! At the same time, it provides effective assistance to its strategic partner, strengthens its position and influence in the Middle East at times, confirms and consolidates its military-political weight in world politics.
    To concentrate so many tasks in one solution is the height of state thinking and art.
  49. vladimirw
    vladimirw 1 October 2015 12: 16
    +1
    but they have no normal air defense yet. And if someone is kind "from there" and supplies - it is also necessary to teach the correct use. So our pilots will gain combat experience and practice real combat use without much risk.
    And who said that no? And trophies from the Iraqi and Syrian armies.
  50. iouris
    iouris 1 October 2015 13: 01
    +2
    In this war, "they fired us" back in 1985. Finally, it began to dawn on the giraffe that the world is a complex system and the collapse of the USSR led to the fall of many regimes that controlled strategic resources.
    I agree that the personnel provided by the Ministry of Defense or the command of the Aerospace Forces are not very convincing. Therefore, the main result of the day is "the process has begun." We hope that in the near future there will be effective preemptive actions on the fronts of the ideological war. I agree that, in addition to bombing, it is necessary to solve the unsolvable main ideological problem: how, while remaining in the system of world capitalism, centered in the United States, to fight terrorists, who formally declare the United States as a sworn ideological enemy. The economic essence of ISIS is the ownership of oil, which has become "ownerless" as a result of the successful implementation of a strategy of total US-controlled "chaos". Successful because our oil prices have crashed. The Iraqis gave up American weapons to ISIS because it was intended that way. Our "partner" Turkey plays a key role in this process. They flee to ISIS through Turkey, flee ISIS, transport oil from ISIS. The ultimate recipient of oil is the EU, that is, France and Germany. Syria is needed by the Saudis to reduce the cost of transporting their goods. Oil starts to rise in price. This hurts the interests of key players, so a very big gambling game is just beginning. It is necessary to destroy the "pipe", therefore, it is very likely that the French, Americans, Turks and Saudis will soon loom in front of our pilots.
    1. armata37
      armata37 2 October 2015 11: 52
      +1
      I agree that we were not drawn into the war. We have long been in this war on terrorism. This is just a new front of hostilities. It was impossible not to answer, because at least at that time I was small, but I’ll say that we don’t need a second Chechnya. It is necessary to destroy the terrorists where they are now, and preferably with all their American instructors.