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In the skies of Europe: Su-35 vs. Eurofighter Typhoon

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Recent comparisons of Russian and Western military equipment are regularly conducted by foreign media. As you might guess, Western experts believe that their equipment is better. Russian specialists think the same way.

National Interest magazine last week compared the capabilities of Su-30 and F22. Now the turn has reached European fighters. A military columnist for the American edition, Dave Mazhumdar, tried to figure out who would win the air battle: the Russian multi-role fighter Su-35 or the European Eurofighter Typhoon.

The choice for comparison is not accidental, because Eurofighter is in service with the air forces of many European countries, including the UK, Germany, Italy and Spain. NI believes that he will be able to withstand air combat against the best Russian fighters without any problems. Such, for example, as Su-35.

The recent training flights of the Typhoon Air Force of the United Kingdom with the Su-30 MKI of the Indian Air Force show that these aircraft are quite comparable in flight and other characteristics.

"The first impressions of Flanker (this is the name of the Su-35 in NATO terminology) are very positive," said the British squadron commander Chris Moon, who participated in those flights, in an interview with NI. "This is a great aircraft, and we are very proud that we managed to fly close to him on our typhoon. ”

Indian pilots have the most favorable impressions of European fighters. They believe that the Su-35 and the Eurofighter Typhoon are approximately equal.

“Both are of the fourth generation,” explained the commander of the Indian squadron, Avi Arya. “Both have quite comparable characteristics. In the first place there is a pilot sitting at the helm. "

The main thing in cases of confrontation between approximately equal planes is the full use of the strengths of the air vehicle and the avoidance of weaknesses.

The main advantage of the Su-35, according to NI, is its excellent maneuverability thanks to thrust vectoring engines.

European fighters are much better, according to Dave Mazhumdar, the cockpit and its interface, as well as sensors.

However, the main advantage in the very near future will be the “Meteor” missiles, guided long-range air-to-air missiles with an active radar seeker. Until Su-35 appears weapon With the same power and efficiency, Eurofighter Typhoon will have a definite advantage in combat.

Russian military experts disagree with this conclusion. For example, a military observer Viktor Litovkin, who believes that the Su-35 is more functional and is able not only to fight the enemy in the air, but also to destroy targets on land and water, as well as to support the advance of the ground forces.

In terms of ammunition Su-35 exceeds Typhoon one and a half times: 9 and 6,5 tons, respectively.

Our fighter is able to detect the target at a distance of 400 km, and the European - only 300. In addition, according to Viktor Litovkin, Typhoon, unlike the Su-35, is not equipped with a warning system about launching enemy missiles. Meanwhile, this system gives the pilot several precious seconds to maneuver.

In conclusion, the Russian expert concludes that due to better maneuverability, the Su-35 has more chances to defeat the Eurofighter Typhoon in aerial combat.
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http://expert.ru/2015/09/29/v-nebe-nad/
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 3 October 2015 05: 36
    16
    I don't know how the Eurofighter flies, but it has a decent range of weapons.
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 3 October 2015 06: 33
      29
      proud that we managed to fly next to him on our Typhoon

      Were able to fly close because Su-35 flew straight. If it took the site to tail the euroforter, then 30 seconds would not have passed.
      1. crazyrom
        crazyrom 3 October 2015 06: 38
        36
        Both aircraft of the fourth generation, - explained the commander of the Indian squadron Avi Arya. - Both have quite comparable characteristics

        Yeah, and both have 2 engine and radar. And 2 wing each. Straight clones, only everything depends on the pilot. Expert of the highest level.
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 3 October 2015 08: 08
          13
          In my opinion, the capabilities of Su-35С and EF-2000 in practice will be approximately equal, as all the pros and cons of both fighters will be more or less leveled by the skill and experience of the pilots. Well, if we take it purely theoretically, I think that our Drying will be stronger than Eurofighter! hi
          1. Falcon
            Falcon 3 October 2015 10: 44
            +3
            Quote: supertiger21
            In my opinion, the capabilities of Su-35С and EF-2000 in practice will be approximately equal, as all the pros and cons of both fighters will be more or less leveled by the skill and experience of the pilots. Well, if we take it purely theoretically, I think that our Drying will be stronger than Eurofighter! hi


            There is one caveat. CE-35 does not install electronic warfare equipment. At Eurofighter, they come as standard.

            Eurofighter’s IRST system is also a bit more interesting; there has always been a lag in optics. You can even simply compare the video.
            1. asmadei
              asmadei 3 January 2021 17: 17
              0
              excuse me as with the head? all right? the electronic warfare system on Russian fighters is installed in a regular manner, starting just with the su-30, the electronic warfare of the khibiny, but about the fact that the IRST system is much more interesting, it says that you are just a great specialist)))), you can compare everything from the video, )))))))))),
      2. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 3 October 2015 10: 15
        11
        Actually, the SU-27 is called the Flanker over the hill, and the SU-35 Flanker-E +, can this Mazhumdar compare the SU-27?
        It indecently climbed forward with his post, but it seems to me that the question is important.
      3. Welcome to hell
        Welcome to hell 3 October 2015 13: 12
        13
        what flights with su 35, what are you talking about? Su 35 at the moment is only in service with the Russian Aerospace Forces, and Indians have su 30mki, su 30mks is 4+ generation, and su 35 4 ++ !!! these media find information to compare. If we talk about European fighters, but they have good maneuverability (typhoon, rafal), but in training battles they met only with a su30mki and it has superiority over European fighters at medium ranges due to absolute radar, and in melee a little advantage, as European fighters have good maneuverability compared to american
      4. Nishtiag
        Nishtiag 6 October 2015 21: 25
        0
        Indians do not have Su-35. They flew on the Su-30MKI, yet they are different cars.
    2. krokodil25
      krokodil25 3 October 2015 06: 34
      31
      I read to the point that Indian pilots competed on 35 x, I immediately realized what authority these super experts had when we managed to sell India 35 e request wassat
      1. Aleksandr81
        Aleksandr81 3 October 2015 07: 17
        10
        ceased to seriously take the article after the words that according to NATO he is a flanker :) tact is su 27 flanker and su 35 flanker e
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 3 October 2015 08: 11
          0
          Quote: Aleksandr81
          ceased to seriously take the article after the words that according to NATO he is a flanker :) tact is su 27 flanker and su 35 flanker e


          Well, according to NATO classification, Flanker designates absolutely all aircraft of the Su-27 family, as far as I know, even the Su-34, which is a front-line bomber.
          1. tehnoluks
            tehnoluks 3 October 2015 08: 56
            10
            Well, according to NATO classification, Flanker designates absolutely all aircraft of the Su-27 family, as far as I know, even the Su-34, which is a front-line bomber.

            I will correct you. "Fullback". According to their classification, the Su-34 is "Fullback"
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 3 October 2015 09: 21
              +1
              Quote: tehnoluks
              I will correct you. "Fullback". According to their classification, the Su-34 is "Fullback"


              Thanks, really messed up! hi
    3. Sharapov
      Sharapov 3 October 2015 07: 56
      13
      What is the article about ???? When did we manage to sell the Su-35 of India? We have been with the troops since February 2014, and there are only 36 of them. Maybe grief aftora has information about a secret contract? The article is heading about the Su-35, and it immediately says that Indian pilots flew the Su-30 MKI.
      1. gjv
        gjv 3 October 2015 09: 07
        +5
        The experts there believe that all Flankers are very similar. What is Su-30MKI, what is Su-35. How important are they to us how wrong they are?
        The main thing is to grab from the flank and hold them in the Typhoon so that it does not pickle. That's Flanker. good
    4. Malkor
      Malkor 3 October 2015 09: 16
      +1
      The article is nonsense - Su-35s did not fly with typhoons - they were Su-30s, their characteristics vary quite a bit.
      1. Kirill
        Kirill 3 October 2015 10: 03
        +2
        Training fights were with the SU-30MKI. The author just mixed up, I hope ...
    5. War and Peace
      War and Peace 3 October 2015 09: 30
      +3
      Indian pilots have the most favorable impressions of European fighters. They believe that the Su-35 and the Eurofighter Typhoon are approximately equal.

      “Both are of the fourth generation,” explained the commander of the Indian squadron, Avi Arya. “Both have quite comparable characteristics. In the first place there is a pilot sitting at the helm. "


      how can the Indians know something about su35? because it’s a secret plane and the Indians don’t have it, they don’t have this tiphun either, so you can refer to the opinion of some Brazilian or Vietnamese pilots ...
      1. region58
        region58 3 October 2015 09: 44
        +4
        ]
        Quote: War and Peace
        and the Indians do not have it

        Probably all the same with the Indians ... Yes, and the Indians definitely do not. wink
    6. One, two, on the left.
      One, two, on the left. 3 October 2015 22: 20
      0
      He. He lost due to the keel. About the rockets-guys, do not yell. The missiles are fun for you. And the Indian-bought. The military tribunal. 2 years ago, they were beaten at times. Good luck
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  4. igorka357
    igorka357 3 October 2015 06: 03
    20 th
    That's right, estimate I’m flying this one on a biplane, on which I installed a top-secret radar detecting from a thousand, and a couple of super missiles 99% that shoot down the target, the eurofighter has a chance against me .. there is definitely no answer, just like the su-35! In modern aerial combat there will be no dog fights, they will still shoot at each other on approach! Well, perhaps in rare collisions of aircraft in close combat maneuverability plays an important role, but ... WWII has passed, the emphasis needs to be placed on guided missile weapons, and target discovery ... more, more, better!
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 3 October 2015 06: 34
      12
      Quote: igorka357
      In modern air combat there will be no dog fights, they will shoot each other even when approaching.

      Yeah, the Americans thought so too. And plodded floppy f-22 and f-35. Now will disentangle.
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      2. shonsu
        shonsu 3 October 2015 09: 41
        +5
        you threw your super missiles at me, and suddenly I had a new electronic warfare and your missiles passed by. all? have sailed? You can take it with your bare hands. now all kinds of electronic warfare systems are developing so much that they are already looking for something to replace the missiles, and they must put a gun.
        1. Falcon
          Falcon 3 October 2015 10: 50
          +2
          Quote: shonsu
          you threw your super missiles at me, and I suddenly had a new electronic warfare and your missiles passed by


          No su-xnumx is installed on the Su-35 ... More important in this case is the stealth technology, since the GPS cannot physically capture the aircraft at a long distance.
          And on every reb there is a counter-reb.

          And there are missiles like aim-9 or the latest modifications of the r-73. Against them there are no techniques of a reb ...

          And they maintain operational overloads up to 40g

          Quote: shonsu
          now all kinds of electronic warfare systems are developing so much that they are already looking for something to replace missiles


          Yah! But can there be examples?
        2. igorka357
          igorka357 3 October 2015 11: 08
          10 th
          What other rebuys on the Su-35 ..)))?
      3. shonsu
        shonsu 3 October 2015 09: 41
        0
        you threw your super missiles at me, and suddenly I had a new electronic warfare and your missiles passed by. all? have sailed? You can take it with your bare hands. now all kinds of electronic warfare systems are developing so much that they are already looking for something to replace the missiles, and they must put a gun.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 3 October 2015 11: 09
          -6
          They put a gun on a rare case of close combat .. you are either off topic or what ... all the emphasis in aviation on missiles ..
      4. patsantre
        patsantre 3 October 2015 09: 56
        +5
        About the slowness of the F-22 themselves came up with? And what do you think they will disentangle?
      5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 October 2015 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: crazyrom
        And spawned clumsy f-22

        f-22 is very agile
      6. igorka357
        igorka357 3 October 2015 11: 08
        0
        Che didn’t notice their disruptions ..))
      7. supertiger21
        supertiger21 3 October 2015 11: 11
        +2
        Quote: crazyrom
        And spawned clumsy f-22


        Yeah, totally awkward fellow ))) An airplane that can do such aerobatics as "Pugachev's Cobra" language will not turn to say something like that!
        PS Minus for ignorance negative !
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 3 October 2015 08: 15
      0
      Quote: igorka357
      That's right, estimate I’m flying this one on a biplane, on which I installed a top-secret radar detecting from a thousand, and a couple of super missiles 99% that shoot down the target, the eurofighter has a chance against me .. there is definitely no answer, just like the su-35! In modern aerial combat there will be no dog fights, they will still shoot at each other on approach! Well, perhaps in rare collisions of aircraft in close combat maneuverability plays an important role, but ... WWII has passed, the emphasis needs to be placed on guided missile weapons, and target discovery ... more, more, better!


      I observe the double standards of the forum users stop ! When there is an article about the F-22 or F-35, immediately "stealth g .... o", "there will be no fights at long distances", "American planes are about ...... in close combat", but what about Su-35S and Eurofighter, this rule changes immediately) No.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 3 October 2015 12: 04
        -7
        No double standards .. I’m answering you .. in the melee Su-35 will probably break Eureka like a hot-water bottle .. and if they don’t let him fly up, they will ..?
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 3 October 2015 19: 14
          0
          Quote: igorka357
          No double standards .. I’m answering you .. in the melee Su-35 will probably break Eureka like a hot-water bottle .. and if they don’t let him fly up, they will ..?


          Key word "POSSIBLE"!
    3. dvg79
      dvg79 3 October 2015 08: 38
      +4
      This has already taken place in Vietnam where the obsolete MiGs 19 and 17 were felled by the hundredth Americans built according to this psychology and the most modern phantoms at that time.
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 3 October 2015 09: 17
        +6
        And so they fell because Li-Xi-Qing flew on the MIGs, and McCain's psychopaths on the Phantoms!
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 3 October 2015 15: 31
          0
          Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          And so they fell because Li-Xi-Qing flew on the MIGs, and McCain's psychopaths on the Phantoms!

          McCain did not fly the Phantoms. McCain flew a Douglas A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft.
        2. the villain
          the villain 3 October 2015 21: 33
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          on the MIGs flew Li-Xi-Qing

          And the moral and volitional qualities of Li Si Qing or Si Ni Qing also depend on how many hi
      2. patsantre
        patsantre 3 October 2015 09: 57
        +1
        It was 50 years ago, during this time several generations of radars and missiles were replaced.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 3 October 2015 16: 00
          0
          Quote: patsantre
          It was 50 years ago

          What do you mean?
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 3 October 2015 19: 15
            0
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Quote: patsantre
            It was 50 years ago

            What do you mean?


            Air battles of the Vietnam War.
    4. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 3 October 2015 09: 11
      +2
      Then aviation, in principle, is not needed. It is necessary to make ground-based air defense systems, there are always more of them, they see and shoot further and it is easier to stamp them. The whole air war comes down to: took off, shot down, fell.
    5. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 3 October 2015 12: 01
      +1
      rummage about the Ethiopia-Eritrea war ... the battles were between the ukrov and the Russian su27 .. all !! the battles eventually turned into maneuverable .. rocket fire-fighting is not as effective as you think .. by the way mirages there didn’t take off if in there were soo in the sky (there is ashore - a killer of twinks)
    6. Yarhann
      Yarhann 3 October 2015 13: 48
      +5
      bullshit - super-maneuverability and stealth just shortens the distance of a combat collision in modern aerial combat. If you fly on a hawk and flush the airborne radar at full power, you will very quickly find enemy hawks by radar radiation and then just do a maneuver to enter an uncontrolled radar area for attack - because the hawks will fly either under the backlight of an Aircraft or in passive listening broadcast in such modes, the detection range is tens of kilometers — to launch a rocket it will be necessary to activate an airborne targeting radar that will immediately declassify the attacker's locations - and here begins an air battle - one plane launches missiles, the second one tries to deactivate them with onboard electronic warfare traps and maneuvering, etc. and so on - if the attacker wasn’t shot down, then a close air combat begins - it’s just not like in the days of the World War within a radius of 1-2 km, it’s a melee now, close combat is about 10 km — the speeds simply increased significantly and the turning radius of the aircraft. Also, close combat will be used when attacking superior enemy forces with external target designation - when the planes reach the target in passive approach as quickly as possible attack several targets compare numerical superiority and again begins a maneuverable close combat.
      do not forget that the greater the distance to the target, the less likely it is to hit it with a missile - this is not a game - not a battle - where each missile 100% hits the target - in real life missiles have a chance of hitting and it is far from 100%.
      Well, finally, a long-range missile of about 100km per su 35m is used on the eurofighter, the SD missile works for such a distance - long-range missiles hit 300km - because missiles of longer range from the wind do not hang over the hill are simple - at a long range the probability of hitting a target with a missile is less than 50 % to increase the probability of up to 80-90%, the launch of two missiles is required - and this is already a considerable weight of airborne weapons from 500-1000 kg - that is, you understand what we are carrying a lot of heavy, not particularly effective weapons and when we get closer to the goal if we reach we will have an empty arsenal - therefore, fighter missiles use short-range missiles of up to 10km and medium ranges of up to 50-80km - they are light and the probability of hitting a target with one missile is high and with two tends to 100%.
      Our long-range missiles are needed for one thing: this is for attacking AWACS aircraft - that is, the same instant 31 well or su 35 bursts on afterburner into the range of the AWACS radar and escorting them launches missiles and also leaves under a retaliatory attack on the afterburner - yes range such an attack is 200-300km, the probability of hitting is not great, but considering that it is an AWACS and not a hawk and has large dimensions and low maneuverability, it will be hit in high probability - something like that)
    7. karavay82
      karavay82 3 October 2015 23: 43
      0
      Yeah! We had one figure named X. He also thought that there were more large and small missiles. As a result, then everything was hastily developed in pursuit of the Americans. With all the pros, a rocket always has minuses.
  5. Camel
    Camel 3 October 2015 06: 10
    16
    This Dave Majumdar over the past two months has written so many articles about comparing the SU-35 and T-50 with different aircraft, but all the same superficial, like this one. And while he calls himself
    Military observer of the American edition
    !!! Damn, yes we have any kid who is interested in aviation, will give him a head start!
    If they have such "experts", then I understand their absolute lack of understanding of what is happening in the world. laughing
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 3 October 2015 08: 18
      +4
      I agree. This Dave Mamajur or whatever it is laughing already, indeed, he began to flicker too often. Straight super duper authority what He flew on European cans and on our dryers, what is so "authoritative" comparing? ...
      And so I know how - to put two tables with TTX side by side and look at where the digital is more lol "Authority"... smile
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 3 October 2015 16: 30
        +2
        Quote: Rurikovich
        This Dave Mamajur

        I have this person for some reason associated with supertiger21
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 3 October 2015 19: 17
          +1
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          I have this person for some reason associated with supertiger21


          belay
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 3 October 2015 23: 50
            +1
            हैलो, आप कैसे हैं? laughing fellow
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          2. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 4 October 2015 14: 34
            0
            Quote: supertiger21
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            I have this person for some reason associated with supertiger21


            belay

            Well, what can I do, it does not depend on my desire or unwillingness.
            I have no complaints to you.
            1. Scraptor
              Scraptor 4 October 2015 15: 26
              +1
              Do not prick comrade ... wink
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  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 October 2015 06: 15
    +4
    In conclusion, the Russian expert concludes that due to better maneuverability, the Su-35 has more chances to defeat the Eurofighter Typhoon in aerial combat.


    Lord do not bring, but if you meet in a real battle, we will win beyond doubt the 35.
    And most importantly, which pilot in the cockpit is Indian or ours. So even without comparison, with all due respect to India and its Air Force.
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 3 October 2015 06: 36
      +2
      Why don't you bring it in, how can you bring it in, but quickly! So that these stupid stories about "who will win" end.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 3 October 2015 06: 52
        +5
        You really want to fight, you’re our couch? Well, go to Syria (they’ll take them to the militia), or to wet Bandera’s people in the Donbass ... War is a terrible evil and misfortune, and you call it ...
        Quote: crazyrom
        Why don't you bring it in, how can you bring it in, but quickly! So that these stupid stories about "who will win" end.
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  9. wolfkill
    wolfkill 3 October 2015 06: 19
    +6
    Does India have a su-35? They seem to have only su-30mki
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  11. Coconut
    Coconut 3 October 2015 06: 43
    16
    this is how to compare Mercedes and BMW bully but for me personally Sushka is cooler (I'm Russian) fellow

    1. TOR2
      TOR2 3 October 2015 13: 13
      +1
      During hostilities, the risk of an emergency situation arises many times. In the event of a breakdown, the Russian "car industry" will be repaired with the help of a mantazhka and some kind of mother, but the German one will definitely go on a tow truck. smile
  12. barbiturate
    barbiturate 3 October 2015 07: 00
    +3
    Something incomprehensible article is somehow, everything is mixed, then we are talking about the Su-30MKI, then about the Su-35 and all in common phrases)
    1. Toorik
      Toorik 3 October 2015 07: 24
      +4
      Yes, I also didn’t understand ... they flew by 30 .... they compare 35 .... and just do as far as I heard 12: 0 drying won ...
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 3 October 2015 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: barbiturate
      Something incomprehensible article is somehow, everything is mixed, then we are talking about the Su-30MKI, then about the Su-35 and all in common phrases)

      Which author is such an article.
  13. Mavric
    Mavric 3 October 2015 07: 01
    +5
    The article is very superficial. With all due respect, even the Americans recognize the superiority of our aircraft (export versions with reduced performance). Again, the level of Russian pilots is higher. Even at the Red Flag exercises, the Indians are not allowed to use the full potential of the aircraft, limiting the use of certain capabilities in order to at least somehow equalize the chances of winning the battle. Of course, there is always room to move in terms of avionics, ergonomics of the workplace. Partly there are problems with the element base. The missiles developed for the T-50 will be able to carry and the Su-35. So rockets have at least parity, the radar detection range is higher, the ammunition is larger, maneuverability, if it comes to that, is better or at least not worse.
  14. timyr
    timyr 3 October 2015 07: 15
    +6
    Quote: dmi.pris
    You really want to fight, you’re our couch? Well, go to Syria (they’ll take them to the militia), or to wet Bandera’s people in the Donbass ... War is a terrible evil and misfortune, and you call it ...
    Quote: crazyrom
    Why don't you bring it in, how can you bring it in, but quickly! So that these stupid stories about "who will win" end.

    The previous one, if only there was no war, cost 70 million people in the vast expanses of the former USSR. Russia itself minus 20 million. So the war goes on and did not stop against Russia.
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 October 2015 07: 40
    +6
    You do not need to be a great specialist in aviation technology to understand that the article is "about nothing", but an elementary customized advertising material for Western aircraft! Yes, NATO pilots are even afraid to think about a possible collision with our Sushki in a real battle, have you forgotten how they "shouted" about possible incidents in the skies of Syria, because they know the cocks will be the result (and also an attempt to scare ours, scare the good gentlemen with his bare ass )!
  16. NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 October 2015 08: 41
    +2
    Recently, I noticed a steady tendency of American experts to compare Russian weapons with everything that is in the arsenal of NATO. The feeling is that they convince themselves that our weapons are not better at all, but somewhere even worse. There is no serious analysis (though and experts), arguments and conclusions, stupidly Eurofighter is not worse than SU-35, and in some places even better ... Well, what can I say on this analysis? All the same, Russian trains, the most traveled trains in the world.
  17. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 3 October 2015 09: 05
    +1
    It’s interesting how a modern, advanced and awesomely expensive fighter cannot be equipped with an adversary launch warning system ?!
  18. X Y Z
    X Y Z 3 October 2015 09: 56
    +1
    Dave Mazhumdar has hit the gold mine and is developing it methodically and persistently. Of course, everyone involved is concerned with the question of who has the best equipment and such pseudo-scientific articles are doomed to success, especially since the author’s affections are not hidden at all. This is understandable, because the customer would not have understood or accepted otherwise, and this would have been reflected in the receipt of the fee at the box office. But the author’s art is to write that their technique is much cooler, then the experts would have torn to pieces, and if on the contrary, then lost money. So you have to bustle, underestimate, omit the exact characteristics, talk about approximate equality, but hint that their technique is generally better in general. In short, equilibrist won. Write further Dave.
  19. Lucy
    Lucy 3 October 2015 10: 06
    +1
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    It’s interesting how a modern, advanced and awesomely expensive fighter cannot be equipped with an adversary launch warning system ?!


    Michael, And what is this system ABOUT START?
  20. Turkestan
    Turkestan 3 October 2015 10: 33
    +1
    Evaluation of these two aircraft can be given only after they clash in real combat
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  22. washi
    washi 3 October 2015 10: 45
    +1
    Recently, I do not see data on our long-range aviation missiles (only old ones for Mig-31)
    The fact that they were removed from service is hard to believe. most likely classified.
  23. Awaz
    Awaz 3 October 2015 11: 26
    +1
    eh, except as soon as after direct confrontation, subject to all the hardships of war, opposition of different systems and interaction with others, as well as problems with service, etc., etc., you can understand the real essence of this confrontation. But I think it won't come to that. And good . And so let them measure themselves with pipis. We would have more air defense and smarter and let them fly along the borders and ssat with their "super duper missiles, radars and stealth"
  24. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 3 October 2015 11: 29
    +1
    No guys! I am still proud of our aviation and its pilots! Real guys! That's what heroes GLORY!
  25. Mestny
    Mestny 3 October 2015 12: 05
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    Quote: aszzz888
    Lord do not bring, but if you meet in a real battle, we will win beyond doubt the 35.
    And most importantly, which pilot in the cockpit is Indian or ours.

    So in the article it is written - the planes are approximately equal, the skill of the pilots comes to the fore.
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 3 October 2015 16: 58
      +1
      Quote: Mestny
      So in the article it is written - the planes are approximately equal, the skill of the pilots comes to the fore.

      A very in-depth analysis of the author, sage however.
  26. BlackDragon
    BlackDragon 3 October 2015 14: 29
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    fights do not occur in a vacuum, so all comparisons are just insanity.
  27. rubidiy
    rubidiy 3 October 2015 15: 13
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    disliked. The level of "Expertise" is amazing. You should have asked your grandmother near the entrance which plane is better and published her thoughts on this matter ...
  28. IAlex
    IAlex 3 October 2015 16: 05
    +2
    There is nothing to compare at all, the Russian Federation has an army like the United States, albeit less, but the Russian army does not need to occupy and control the whole world. Moreover, technology is a complex component that balances honey with various parts of the general system for fulfilling the tasks defined by the purpose of the concept of using the army and the tasks of the state ...

    EU military units are not armies, but simply appendages to the US army. They have neither normal logistics, nor command centers, nor full-fledged combat systems and communications. Those. they can only be meat for the USA, and no matter how cool they can have separate wunder wunder wafers ...

    At the moment, there are 2,5 armies in the world - these are the USA, the Russian Federation and almost China. For they have a full-fledged military-industrial complex that produces all types of equipment, have their own BIUS and encryption communications equipment, their own logistics centers, their own operations planning headquarters, and the necessary space-based surveillance and target designation facilities (with the exception of China). All other pseudo-armies do not have such resources, and for their activities they are forced to use the noble systems of the United States for bootlicking ...
  29. moskowit
    moskowit 3 October 2015 17: 54
    +2
    All this is chatter. Everyone understands perfectly well that it is possible to compare military equipment only in confrontation, where, in addition to TTD, the professional training of crews, a single soldier and fighting spirit play a huge role! As someone great said: "Victory is not for those who have strength, but for those who have the Truth!"
  30. SuperVodka777
    SuperVodka777 3 October 2015 18: 02
    -5
    Maneuverability does not solve anything now.
  31. rvsn90
    rvsn90 3 October 2015 18: 30
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    Quote: krokodil25
    The recent training flights of the Typhoon Air Force of the United Kingdom with the Su-30 MKI of the Indian Air Force show that these aircraft are quite comparable in flight and other characteristics.


    No, it’s they who compare the performance characteristics (Indians), but letti on 30s in training battles ...
  32. L10n77
    L10n77 3 October 2015 21: 03
    +1
    Interesting conclusions, a typhoon of the type takes only at the expense of long-range missiles Meteor, only the author does not take into account that according to our classification the meteor is a medium-range missile and is very much inferior in characteristics to regular medium-range missiles RVV-AE, the meteor is equal in characteristics to the old man R-27ER.
  33. Rumin11103
    Rumin11103 3 October 2015 21: 30
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    Well, they are similar in capabilities or not, they can only show the battle. God forbid, of course. All the rest is chatter. But here is what the words of the Indian are discussing with might and main! pilots about the latest fighters were very amused. Soon Burkina Faso will be hungry for a year and buy a pair of fighters. And two))) their pilots will start talking about the capabilities of their aircraft. And what, everyone will also listen? Hindus became good aviators because that we sell them a lot of equipment and fight for their orders?
  34. ultravantuz
    ultravantuz 5 October 2015 12: 45
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    There is nothing special to discuss here. You don't even need comparative characteristics. It is written: "NI believes that it will be able to withstand the best Russian fighters in air combat without any problems. Such, for example, as the Su-35."
    Do not win, do not surpass, but survive. That is, do not fall right there, but get out of the battle and somehow hold on with farting steam to the airfield.
  35. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 5 October 2015 13: 55
    +1
    The article is made according to the pattern of Western fake stuffing - one thing is large in the heading, and in the small print in the article is completely different. So there’s nothing to discuss - let’s first fly next to the SU-35, and then we’ll talk about the advantages and disadvantages. But I want to remind some that even on worse vehicles our pilots successfully opposed German asss during the Second World War! hi
  36. Mista_dj
    Mista_dj 5 October 2015 20: 42
    +2
    Put a minus.
    Full nonsense !!!
  37. skomfit
    skomfit 17 October 2015 13: 57
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    We will defeat everyone