West acknowledged: Putin has a "sensible plan"

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Washington no longer intends to demand the immediate resignation of Syrian President Bashar Assad. This was said by US Secretary of State John Kerry. Meanwhile, the eminent British expert acknowledged that the most “sensible" plan for resolving the conflict in Syria is not at all at the White House, but at Moscow. And in Paris, Marine Le Pen spoke: she believes that France should join Russia in solving the Syrian problem.

In an interview with the TV channel CNN the US secretary of state explained that the United States refused to demand the immediate resignation of the Syrian President. John Kerry acknowledged that Assad’s immediate resignation could destroy civilian institutions and lead to “collapse.” “We need to ensure an orderly transition, a managed transition,” the state secretary said, “so that there is no fear of revenge and no fear for life.”

With a sigh, Mr. Kerry admitted that the previous US approach to the change of power in Damascus was not viable.

In addition, he called "an opportunity" for Washington to involve Russia in the resolution of the Syrian conflict.

According to the TV presenter, Mr. Kerry reported on similar changes in Washington’s position on the UAR.

British journalist John Bradley, the author of several books on the problems of the Middle East, believes that Putin has the “most sensible” plan for Syria. This columnist spoke on the pages "The Spectator".

At the very beginning of the civil war in Syria, four years ago, John Bradley looked lonely in the British media against the background of screamers who were ready to “overthrow the secular dictator of the president.” The people of Syria did not really rebel against Bashar al-Assad, the analyst points out.

At that time, the journalist wrote that a short-term strategy aimed at removing Assad from power would lead to "destructive long-term consequences." In addition, Assad "will not fall": the people in Damascus will not go against him. And the so-called secular rebels are actually “evil Islamists in masks”.

The population of Syria with its ethno-confessional diversity could simply be destroyed as a result of the war. And the West could even provoke a full-scale war with Russia, the journalist recalls. Nobody in 2011 was listening to him, and he was “tired of trying” to convince people “of their own stupidity.”

And now more than four years have passed. Here they are, the suffering of the Syrian people: 250.000 dead, half of the population turned into "internally displaced persons", millions became refugees.

Russia came to the aid of Syria. In Latakia, military bases were built. Russians Tanks, fighters, military advisers, warships and even the most modern anti-aircraft missile systems ended up in Syria. Russian engineers built the runway “almost overnight,” and the fleet conducted demonstration exercises in the Syrian port of Tartus.

"Sassy" Russia took NATO by surprise, the analyst believes. But the question is: why do Russians guarantee that Assad remains in power? The short answer is: the Syrian strategy of the West is a pure mess, and Russia could do whatever it wants without fear of NATO - the alliance will simply “turn away”.

The Pentagon’s ideas about training the “rebel army from scratch” in Syria are ridiculed by the journalist, calling them “unthinking”. The US plans to combat the "Islamic state" seem to him stupid, while overthrowing the Assad regime.

Vladimir Putin today looks like the savior of Europe from the refugee crisis. He argues that only by keeping Assad in power can the flow of migrants be stopped.

It sounds strange, the British author continues, but Putin’s statements carry a lot more sense than anyone’s speeches. There is simply no one to object to Putin! The leading politicians of Washington and London, who muttered for whole years that “the evil dictator Asad should leave,” now suddenly agreed that Assad did not need to “leave” now.

A recent survey showed, further notes by a journalist, that 80% (!) Syrians believe that the “Islamic State” created the West. Yes, and many people throughout the Middle East think the same way ("and they are almost never wrong," the author believes).

Washington and its allies have nothing left to admit: Moscow was right.

As for the armaments supplied by Russia to Syria, the experts of AllSource Analysis told about them. This was announced by the site of the "shadow CIA" - the company "Stratfor".

American experts received new photos of Bassel al Assad air base from satellites. High-resolution photographs show that ground forces are deployed in defensive positions and dispersed throughout the airbase.

West acknowledged: Putin has a "sensible plan"


AllSource claims that the base has seven main battle tanks (probably Russian T-90), a large number of vehicles, several BTR-80. Experts and several planes, hidden under a camouflage net near the main runway, noticed. Finally, in the northeast of the base, also near the runway, experts found at least twelve Mi-24 helicopters, also hidden under a camouflage net.

Russians can quickly take up the Su-30 multi-role fighters and use air defense systems, but the threat of fire strikes from hidden positions remains. Therefore, the Russians dispersed their facilities at the air base: they minimize the risks of artillery shelling.

Meanwhile, Marine Le Pen's voice came from France.

Bloomberg spoke about her statement regarding French policy in Syria.

According to the leader of the "National Front", France should not independently strike at the targets of terrorists in Syria. It would be much better to unite with Russia and its great resources. This would help defeat the terrorists in a Middle Eastern country.

Marine Le Pen believes that the support of Bashar al-Assad is the best option, because if it were to fall, the winner would be the Islamic State.

Marin also said that international sanctions against Russia were not “helpful.” The “unipolar” world, led by the United States, tried to push Russia away from itself, but eventually brought it closer to China.

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So, the situation in the international arena suddenly changed. The West recognized: Moscow was right, and Washington and its allies were wrong. British analyst John Bradley, an expert on the Middle East, four years ago actively speaking out against Western projects to overthrow Assad, now wrote a whole article in which he proved that “the most sensible” plan for Syria is with Putin. It sounds strange to the self-confident West, but today there is simply no one to object to Putin.

The world changed suddenly: now they agree with Putin.

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    1. +14
      1 October 2015 06: 17
      Washington no longer intends to demand the immediate resignation of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

      This is an incurable disease in them: topple, turn over, prescribe .... In the general masters of life and nothing else. This disease is difficult but necessary to cure. I hope for our luck in such a difficult, noble cause.
      1. +11
        1 October 2015 06: 21
        West acknowledged: Putin has a "sensible plan"
        but in my opinion, the west was glad of the opportunity to pull chestnuts out of the fire with the wrong hands ...
        1. +35
          1 October 2015 06: 30
          It is quite possible - but if it does, but I really hope that it will be, then our diplomats will not lose the fruits of victory! This will be a very good trump card in the future game! Having achieved a victorious result in Syria by our Armed Forces, we will be able to dictate our conditions! The same Ukrainian junta unanimously asserted that the use of Russian troops in Syria was not permissible, since even it came to their little brains - there will be a result, no one will particularly support Kiev - their shirt is closer to the body and they will come ..., kirdyk! So great success to our wars in Syria! They, with their successful actions, determine the current international status of our state and determine it for many years to come!
          1. +42
            1 October 2015 07: 15
            The military action plan for Syria must have been developed at the General Staff of the Russian Federation. The experience of the second company in the Caucasus says that without a well-developed plan, GDP would not have started.
            Interestingly, but this is the first use of the RF Armed Forces in foreign countries. Moreover, without any approval from Washington (it was not for nothing that someone called the GDP during tea at the UN; Shoigu reported on his readiness bully , and Obama was faced with a fact in the negotiations - ran away from journalists after them like a saiga). This says that there are alternative views, supported by military force. Russia is a superpower, and now everyone needs to understand and "digest" this. The success of the operation will mean this. Politically, the GDP has nowhere to retreat - it needs a victory first of all. Everything is here: from superpower status to arms sales, and they will crawl away from Ukraine.
            Oh, there would have been more MLRS and artillery - the gods of war, and smoke thermobaric ammunition from the holes. Let's hope that all without our advice ( laughing ) thought through.
            1. +1
              1 October 2015 08: 38
              Quote: Kasym
              And without any approval

              Well, what without him? In the media last week it shows that this is a good idea
            2. avt
              +10
              1 October 2015 10: 05
              Quote: Kasym
              Oh, there would have been more MLRS and artillery - the gods of war, and smoke thermobaric ammunition from the holes.

              There will be enough ammunition for the systems already available to the Syrians, but it is necessary to improve the target designation and interaction with advanced units, that is, create and equip a network of reconnaissance gunners. And finally, the fact that from now on, the Western "coalition to fight ISIS" simply does not destroy Assad's equipment and fighters with airstrikes. into a single network-centric force, then yes - the oppositions fed by the USA have no chances, well, unless they openly throw the Turkish army into battle and massively, like in Afghanistan, drive materiel to the spirits. Only suicide bombings will remain, but with this in the East in general they know how to deal with a strong central government. But if the Turks are somehow moved from the border, well, regular units, into the hell, then the batch will not go sour. There, in particular, in Turkey, after a serious lull caused by the arrest of Ajalan, it was quiet with the Kurds, and now, and even with the Turkish bombings under the guise of fighting ISIS by Iraqi and Syrian Kurds, a small guerrilla-sabotage war has already begun in Turkey itself. The intensity is not high, and it is localized in individual regions, but the trend is nevertheless. So the Turks and the Ottoman Falcon should think with their heads, and not satisfy their ambitions. I would have remembered better how the Entente led Porto to collapse before 1914, when the Turks' proposals for neutrality, and indeed participation on the side of the Entente, though with the preliminary condition to return what was lost in the Balkan War of 1912, were simply answered - Turkey's neutrality, as well as its integrity, we guarantee ..... ONLY FOR THE PERIOD OF BATTLE OPERATIONS. So let OWN history, and even the relatively recent history of relations with the Naglo-Saxons, be studied by the Sokil of the Sea of ​​Marmara, and not be buggy with the new Brilliant Port. Let it remember how Russia THREE TIMES saved the Turks - from Napoleon, from the Egyptian uprising in 1830 and in the 23rd year of the last century ...
              1. +3
                1 October 2015 17: 23
                I would also add that everyone thought out very effectively that the Iranians from the IRGC, Hezbollah and the Syrians themselves are fighting on the ground, that is, there is no need to add Russian marines or the CST

                And they added exactly what was missing - high-tech items, air defense, air force - the possibility of air strikes and air cover from "you know who"
                1. avt
                  +3
                  1 October 2015 18: 36
                  Quote: Talgat
                  there is no need to add Russian marines or odkb there

                  Yes . Only to protect the base, but we need advisers and instructors to create network-centric strength.
                  Quote: Talgat
                  air cover from "you know who"

                  Hike four Su-30x and six 34x just a cold compress on the hot heads of potential friends and partners in the "coalition". But as already noted, the main strength of our potential friends is Turkey. If the Turks are not smart enough, they will not go an offer from which they cannot refuse, then a repetition of the collapse of the Sublime Port through a civil war with at least the Kurds ... and there are also quite a lot of Alavites, and if you consider that they cut the territory of the common man so that Antalya / Antioch has Surya did not recognize the end of the First World War .... that is, the war of all against all will grow to the size - it will not seem a little and the refugees will trample in Europe no longer by calling Twitter or Facebook.
            3. +29
              1 October 2015 10: 47
              "The world has changed overnight: now they agree with Putin"

              Like this. It only took Putin an hour and a half to talk with Obama - and everything immediately became clear.
              The conversation was without journalists. Still would. I would like to see how Putin pokes Obama in the face with a map of the entire Middle East, saying: “Who did this ?! Who did this?!"
              1. +3
                1 October 2015 13: 55
                well ridiculed ...)))
                1. 0
                  1 October 2015 16: 12
                  The sensible plan is always funny wassat laughing
              2. +2
                1 October 2015 22: 24
                I imagined this picture and laughed to tears :) Five balls!
              3. KVS
                0
                1 October 2015 22: 32
                a black monkey doesn’t solve anything ... she’s just a talking head of certain powers that be ...
                and behind-the-scenes negotiations are going on precisely with these authorities, having various kinds of family contracts, orders and others ... whose interests intersect ...
                here comes the old saying "boyars swear, but slaves' foreheads crack ..."
                draw conclusions comrades ...
          2. +15
            1 October 2015 08: 11
            May God grant that all our military personnel in Syria remain alive and well.
            1. 0
              1 October 2015 13: 57
              in war as in war, there will be losses, but we must reduce them to an absolute minimum.
          3. 0
            1 October 2015 18: 55
            Quote: Finches
            There, with their successful actions, they determine the current international status of our state and determine it for many years to come!

            And here the question is - for whom is it determined? For the whole world - yes, but apart from ... Europe, the USA and all sorts of Canada and Australia, as well as our "progressive liberal" community. Then they erased everything ... Thanks guys, we censored it.
            1. 0
              1 October 2015 22: 09
              First of all, for us! For Russia!
        2. +4
          1 October 2015 07: 01
          No, the West is worried that his efforts to achieve complete chaos in the near
          The east can go to dust. Now their propaganda, I think, will stress that the Russian Air Force is fighting not against ISIS, but against the "free Syrian army." Like "well, we agreed that Assad may stay for now, and you are fighting his opposition - not honestly," and then "Moscow is the aggressor!", "Moscow is liars!" etc. etc.
          1. +8
            1 October 2015 09: 39
            Putin again thoughtfully and on schedule did. First, the opening of the Cathedral Mosque in Moscow, explained to the Muslim world that the igil is nothing to do with their faith, and went further, the United Nations said that the igil is no longer tolerated, a request to the federation council, a positive response from the federation council, and fire on positions. Mattresses generally go sideways.
            1. 0
              1 October 2015 12: 42
              + to you)) I also thought why it’s so awesome to open a Mosque
          2. +2
            1 October 2015 09: 58
            And I think that they will constantly lay peace and yell about it to the whole world, it has already begun today, but it has not crawled. Therefore, we need to show the class, to squirrel in the eye the first time, and before that, scout very accurately
        3. +1
          1 October 2015 07: 13
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          but in my opinion, the west was glad of the opportunity to pull chestnuts out of the fire with the wrong hands ...

          Now, this is it, I already wrote that in order to manipulate a person it is necessary to make him a hero, which is happening now, though for some reason they perceive it as a manifestation of weakness, well, this is such an illusion, and inspired by oneself
        4. +4
          1 October 2015 07: 21
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          , the west rejoiced at the opportunity to pull chestnuts out of the fire with the wrong hands ...

          Is it the hands of Uncle Vova? Well, well ... GDP does everything very deliberately.
          Hi strategist drinks
        5. +3
          1 October 2015 10: 58
          I wonder what Putin Amer. pressed eggs that they so sharply reversed hacked? if so, then hello dill, soon and from there they will tear the claws.
          1. +1
            1 October 2015 17: 11
            Yes, you just have to imagine that the legitimately elected President of Syria will announce a no-fly zone over his country. And he will ask Russia (read - already asked) to help him ensure this factor.

            Such a number of snot, saliva and feces is not one vaunted American aircraft carrier can not stand. laughing
          2. +1
            1 October 2015 19: 05
            sherman1506

            :) it’s just that the west has come to the point when the eggs automatically shimmy.

            Systemic crisis. Therefore, they are accommodating. :)
      2. +8
        1 October 2015 08: 03
        It would be great if I'm wrong but! The West sharply recognized Assad as a normal ruler, refugees flee from Syria for 1500 km to Germany, the center of Europe (although there are many states closer). It is possible that the IS is moving from Syria to Germany. What do you think friends?
        1. +3
          1 October 2015 08: 32
          They run too organized. And yes, the West does not have a penny of trust, if they lost in Syria they will begin to download elsewhere .....
        2. +3
          1 October 2015 11: 03
          And what to think, the Middle East project stalled, they decided to set fire to Europe. Note, as soon as the "refugees" rushed to Europe, ours sharply intensified in Syria. I think again we are saving Europe, well, and ourselves for one thing.
        3. +2
          1 October 2015 13: 12
          I’m afraid that now they will chase the terrorists - and they will return to us - from Turkey visa-free entry to the Russian Federation, and the transition to Turkey from Syria is generally open. We must now catch them at the border - for sure, the IS is already preparing terrorist attacks. But there is no turning back - you need to finish the hydra
          1. 0
            1 October 2015 14: 02
            I think that’s why they started attacking the igil from the north to cut them off from Turkey.
        4. 0
          1 October 2015 19: 12
          Tanker55

          I will not be mistaken, if presumably, these Syrian refugees are just part of the GDP plan.

          Feed, wash, cure. They will give on the road and send back to Syria. To rebuild the state. When will it get better. And so that they do not parachute Europe for a long time to help Syria. And then suddenly refugees in Europe will like it.
          :)

          As they say, motivate correctly.
      3. +2
        1 October 2015 08: 16
        Quote: venaya
        The world changed suddenly: now they agree with Putin.

        except for the boar’s petya, naturally ...
        1. +2
          1 October 2015 09: 20
          Putin has the “smartest” plan for Syria. This sounds strange to the self-confident West, but today there is simply no one to object to Putin.

          For Putin, this is not only the most sensible, but also the most truthful plan! And you can't trample against the truth! Therefore, in the self-confident West, there is nothing to argue, and no one. Until they were pinned down by refugees, they did not accept any sensible proposals from Putin. And then immediately their eyes opened! As the saying goes: "Your shirt is closer to your body!" Still, they would have more brains to act with their own mind, and not the American - they would not have a price.
      4. 0
        1 October 2015 10: 06
        "Let's cut off Susan's leg! - Wait, guys, I remembered the road!" laughing It turns out that we have a "sensible plan", we just had to strongly want to see it. That's how it just turns out lol
      5. +1
        1 October 2015 11: 20
        There is a Russian proverb: "- this is forever" and here, only even worse (incurable). Only Yellowstone will heal them
    2. +4
      1 October 2015 06: 17
      Not everyone agreed with Putin, some did not even listen, proud nation smile
      1. KOH
        +8
        1 October 2015 06: 24
        Yes, there the "Serious" were talking about what these clowns had to do there, except to wear coffee ...)))
        1. 0
          1 October 2015 07: 25
          Garcons for them it would be an honor, BAGS
      2. 0
        1 October 2015 09: 30
        yeah, rooster bird proud
      3. 0
        1 October 2015 21: 13
        Some did not just "disagree", but also "were ashamed."
    3. +4
      1 October 2015 06: 20
      Well, Americans publicly clicked on the nose and the geyropa sang the praises of Russia in chorus, but no trace of relaxation, mattress mattresses lurked and provocations were inevitable.
      1. +4
        1 October 2015 06: 52
        small unsuccessful little people are very vindictive. And all this rotten west pours us fir in our ears, and keeps a fig behind our back.
    4. +4
      1 October 2015 06: 21
      Reached European paddles through crowds of refugees?
      The situation in Syria - "at the crossroads": where it will move - is not yet clear.
    5. +6
      1 October 2015 06: 22
      John Kerry acknowledged that Assad’s immediate resignation could destroy civilian institutions and lead to “collapse”.Like, they didn’t understand it before. Apparently "Darkest" found words of conviction in personal negotiations. Not for nothing, as journalists say, Obama jumped out of the negotiation room, did not even stay at the press conference. The VP had to take the rap ...
      1. avt
        +2
        1 October 2015 23: 29
        Quote: parusnik
        John Kerry acknowledged that Assad’s immediate resignation could destroy civilian institutions and lead to “collapse”.

        “Americans will ALWAYS make the right decision after trying EVERYTHING else” ---- W. Churchill.
    6. +2
      1 October 2015 06: 23
      The world changed suddenly: now they agree with Putin.

      Logical actions are always stronger than all others. wink
    7. +5
      1 October 2015 06: 25
      Quote: Igor39
      Not everyone agreed with Putin, some did not even listen, proud nation smile


      They (horses) do not weigh anything, full zero and empty space.
      Themselves at the UN lowered below the plinth with a trick with a holey rag, Rogul's idiots.
    8. +3
      1 October 2015 06: 26
      "Leading politicians in Washington and London, who for years muttered that" the evil dictator Assad must leave, "now suddenly agreed that Assad does not need to" leave "now."

      Already gone. Gaddafi, Hussein. Outright Islamic terrorists came in their place. The same would be in Egypt after Mubarak, but there the army turned out to be real, said its word. And in Syria it did not pass, and now with our help it will not pass already.
    9. +8
      1 October 2015 06: 27
      With God! Good luck to the flyers. Pathos? But nothing else comes to mind. What is depressing is that there is nothing you can help but invigorate.
    10. +3
      1 October 2015 06: 35
      the most “sensible” plan to resolve the conflict in Syria is not at the White House at all, but at Moscow

      Finally, sensible speeches began to be heard. Moreover, this is said by the British.
      France should not independently attack terrorist targets in Syria. It would be much better to unite with Russia and its large resources

      Marie Le Pen. as always right, but only Hollande will not accept her words.
    11. +12
      1 October 2015 06: 36
      Well, with the modern press, intelligence is not needed.
      They deliver satellite images every day with both aviation and armored vehicles.
      I watched in the morning how tanks dug in there and went to smoke.

    12. -3
      1 October 2015 06: 41
      And aid to Syria should be increased. Feel free to bullet hundreds of Onyxes.
      1. +12
        1 October 2015 06: 59
        Quote: Basarev
        Feel free to bullet hundreds of Onyxes.

        RCC ??? where to "shoot"? belay for the bearded? "onyx"? cool !!! from the "dagger" to add, and depth charges to finish off! good
        1. +5
          1 October 2015 07: 24
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          and finish off with depth charges!

          what
          And these more to throw more:
          1. +2
            1 October 2015 07: 30
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            And these more to throw more:

            international convention will not allow! laughing hi Old ... hi
            1. +1
              1 October 2015 08: 08
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              Old...

              sad
              Not old, but experienced !! am
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              international convention will not allow!

              And we do. Yes
    13. +24
      1 October 2015 06: 49
      Marine Le Pen believes that the support of Bashar al-Assad is the best option, because if it were to fall, the winner would be the Islamic State.
    14. +4
      1 October 2015 07: 05
      Russia now does not need military assistance from the West (we are a dozen), but the complete closure of financial and other material resources, supply channels, since basically all financial flows are controlled by the West and it is impossible to sell oil, slaves, organs and drugs without their tacit consent Now, if this is blocked for the most part, then the very existence of ISIS will already be a matter of time, not immediately, but it will significantly help in the fight against the frostbitten and rabid beast
      1. +4
        1 October 2015 09: 50
        Quote: Taygerus
        we are a dozen

        With whom, with whom are you?
    15. +1
      1 October 2015 07: 12
      The plan is as simple as a shovel. Help those who are really fighting ISIS. The white-headed West would never have guessed before. They would only overthrow and appoint. Let them consider the natural action of Russia as a plan.
      and continue to publish pictures of the babies they killed, passing them off as victims of Russian aggression. I won’t be surprised if there are now screams about the flows of Syrian refugees because of the actions of Russia. And the pictures will be published about this from Hollywood. Radishes, they are radishes. Above, the Democrats inside greedy for someone else's barbarians.
    16. +4
      1 October 2015 07: 19
      The West has always been so, and it will remain so. This is a kind of crusades, they came - they ruined whom they could have killed, earlier for Christ, now for democracy, then in the name of the pederasts, and the ins and outs of one - to rob, kill and rob. It seems that once every 50 years, it is necessary to restore order there by means of tanks, but it costs us dearly. Everything seems to be coming to that.
    17. +1
      1 October 2015 07: 22
      Against the background of all the NATO POLOKOLKOVO PLANS, at last someone saw and admitted that, it turns out, the plan of our president bears the name "EXPLANATORY!"
    18. 0
      1 October 2015 07: 32
      Putin is also a good doctor, blind Western politicians can see their eyes overnight!
    19. 0
      1 October 2015 07: 36
      Quote: ML-334
      With God! Good luck to the flyers. Pathos? But nothing else comes to mind. What is depressing is that there is nothing you can help but invigorate.

      Volunteer
    20. +4
      1 October 2015 07: 38
      American experts received new photos of Bassel al Assad airbase (Bassel al Assad) from satellites.


      Oh how. And in the dill there was only an unbroken screech that Russia attacked. And here even helicopters were counted under a camouflage net laughing
    21. -8
      1 October 2015 07: 54
      Pull into Ukraine did not work
      . but it came to Syria. Everything goes according to plan. Russia got involved in the war. And who didn’t want to drag her in there?
      1. -2
        1 October 2015 20: 29
        Though zamusuytesya UraKalki. There are our fellow citizens, and you do not even know how many zinc will go from there. decree because to CLASS. I won’t talk about the country's budget. May God grant everyone to return alive.
    22. +1
      1 October 2015 08: 12
      The world was not amazed at once. Huge work has been done. Eurases, strengthening the SCO with the development bank, the Silk Road concept. The fight against terrorism and a mess in the world is one of the trump cards since the first presidency of Vova.
      Overnight, the world realized that it was too late to drink Borjomi, when almost all the Eurasian routes were under Vova’s control. Need trepanation of the skull and screwing curlers on the meanders
    23. +4
      1 October 2015 08: 35
      I really hope that the Russian military support of the Syrian government forces will not only consist in the fight against internal terrorists and extremists (ISIS, not moderate rebels, etc.), but also with external (elected, exclusive). Of course, this support should occur exclusively on the territory of the ATS.
      And I really hope that this time our "friends", after we pulled them out of the cesspool once again, will still understand something and will not take rash moves like two years ago, in almost the same situation.

      Addendum: Yesterday at the end I understood why radio "Echo of Moscow" has exactly that name, and not some other name. Everything basically works echo:
      You shout: Jura, and it is in response cheers, cheers, cheers
      You shout: shit, and it is in response it, it, it
      Well, you understand the principle. Quietly farted on one side of the village, on the other side they said that he had put it in his pants in full.
      Echo, definitely laughing
      1. 0
        1 October 2015 22: 32
        Well, here's what you, colleague, why ... People about good, sincere, dear, and you about "Echo of Moscow" ....
    24. 0
      1 October 2015 09: 06
      sorry that China is silent. And could help
    25. 0
      1 October 2015 09: 29
      Here, Russia and its allies drew themselves, while in words, we need to see how in practice.
    26. -8
      1 October 2015 09: 52
      I didn’t understand if Vovik had a good plan or there was no one to object, but is there another? Somehow confused this nostradamus broadcasts. And about Vovik did not predict anything, in short into the furnace.
      But Vovyan is great, a judoka-chess player, and if Che, then - mavash in the skull
      1. +2
        1 October 2015 12: 08
        Quote: orthodox71
        ... Vovik has a good plan ... about Vovik ... Vovyan well done ...


        Are you talking about any of your friends who have a couple of glasses of "good plan"?
        1. -3
          1 October 2015 13: 45
          I look, you are not an expert in the plans.
          Can I jump from a chair to attention "at attention" at the mention of you know who. What an interesting forum. They like each other, everyone knows everyone, they give a minus in a crowd for something.
          1. +3
            1 October 2015 17: 17
            Firstly, about jumping down the rack at attention, and even from the chair: and so it was clear that with a sense of proportion you are not doing fine. Why aggravate ?.
            Secondly, the site can be said to be military. And the military should have blood subordination. Familiarizing with the chief official of his state is unworthy.
            Thirdly, I don't like the "crowd" where "everyone knows everyone" - so what's the matter? ..
    27. 0
      1 October 2015 09: 56
      Putin has the “smartest” plan for Syria. This sounds strange to the self-confident West, but today there is simply no one to object to Putin.
      And most importantly ALREADY incarnated. Honestly did not expect such swiftness. It turns out that we not only drive fast, but also can quickly harness. It is very pleasing. After all, we can when it is very necessary.
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    29. 0
      1 October 2015 10: 26
      We would somehow know this plan! )))
      For what? And for what? It's easier, fucking?
    30. +1
      1 October 2015 11: 08
      Quote: Tankman55
      It would be great if I'm wrong but! The West sharply recognized Assad as a normal ruler, refugees flee from Syria for 1500 km to Germany, the center of Europe (although there are many states closer). It is possible that the IS is moving from Syria to Germany. What do you think friends?

      One hundred poods !! The Rhodschilds decided to buy Geurope Podshovke, having previously bankrupted or at least greatly reduced the cost. The well-known schemes, both in Ukrainian and in Russia, have been repeatedly tested, at first to harm, seizure courts, then bankruptcy, then the purchase of a podshovka. However, can the mattress open the "Pandora's Box" close it back, or was Wanga right ??? "Syria has not yet fallen", and from "Europe and America will remain a desert" winked
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        1 October 2015 11: 25
        Quote: Val_Y
        and from "Europe and America will remain a desert"

        If this comes true, it will be bad for everyone - China, because it will lose the multi-billion dollar sales market only in America, hence the drop in production, lower energy consumption, and the Russian Federation - multi-billion losses from the restriction of hydrocarbon sales both in the West and in the East, not to mention the losses wells due to downtime, hence the fall in living standards and income, illness, because pharmaceuticals are tied to the west more, technological losses (well, no one even peeps) like this scenario?
    31. +1
      1 October 2015 11: 18
      "Sassy" Russia took NATO by surprise, the analyst believes. But the question is: why do Russians guarantee that Assad remains in power? The short answer is: the Syrian strategy of the West is a pure mess, and Russia could do whatever it wants without fear of NATO - the alliance will simply “turn away”.

      The way it is. Stoltenberg has already received a directive "not to get under the feet of the Russians" and wagged his tail. But it's too early to calm down. The Anglo-Saxons are a lot of bad guys. Arrange something stinky elsewhere, scoundrels. stop
    32. +1
      1 October 2015 11: 27
      "If your enemies praise you, then you are doing something wrong." The Anglo-Saxons are happy, they simply did not expect such self-styling from Russia, therefore, so far they are only praising in amazement.
      1. 0
        1 October 2015 22: 21
        Quote: chunga-changa
        "If your enemies praise you, then you are doing something wrong." The Anglo-Saxons are happy, they simply did not expect such self-styling from Russia, therefore, so far they are only praising in amazement.

        Yes, they just have nothing else to do! And at the expense of "praise" then there are doubts! Especially considering the latest "news" from the Anglo-Saxons, which speaks of the dead civilians!
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        1 October 2015 22: 35
        I do not agree. Today I personally read the moans of Americans and Saudis about evil Russians and numerous peaceful victims. And praise because there is nowhere to go, they do not want to help, so at least they will praise.
    33. 0
      1 October 2015 11: 55
      Quote: rosarioagro
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      but in my opinion, the west was glad of the opportunity to pull chestnuts out of the fire with the wrong hands ...

      Now, this is it, I already wrote that in order to manipulate a person it is necessary to make him a hero, which is happening now, though for some reason they perceive it as a manifestation of weakness, well, this is such an illusion, and inspired by oneself

      Both are true. The eternal question - in whose hands will the chestnuts remain?
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        1 October 2015 12: 42
        Quote: occupier-222
        The eternal question - in whose hands will the chestnuts remain?

        Well, this must be watched who in the end turns out to be the main beneficiary, if on the example of Afghanistan, then this is the one who is now selling drugs
    34. 0
      1 October 2015 12: 54
      But actually, who called Putin during a tea party ???? in un
    35. +2
      1 October 2015 13: 01
      Quote: Reserve officer
      saying, “Who did this ?! Who did this?!"

      Haha, presented this picture, well, the chair is normal, deep and with armrests, and would have fallen from laughter, thanks, made laugh laughing
    36. 0
      1 October 2015 15: 39
      Quote: Tankman55
      It would be great if I'm wrong but! The West sharply recognized Assad as a normal ruler, refugees flee from Syria for 1500 km to Germany, the center of Europe (although there are many states closer). It is possible that the IS is moving from Syria to Germany. What do you think friends?


      I think that not only the Germans need to worry, given how many American bases and tactical nuclear weapons are in Germany.
    37. 0
      1 October 2015 15: 56
      And the Ameikan ghouls still help "theirs" ... They are uploading satellite images of the bases where the Russian troops are based ...
      1. 0
        1 October 2015 22: 39
        A few buckets with nails in the right orbit ... While the new satellites in the right orbit will adjust ...
    38. 0
      1 October 2015 16: 07
      Watering the terrorists in the outhouse is our plan. (V.V. Putin.)
    39. +1
      1 October 2015 18: 42
      Personally for me, I’m for the fact that more of our weapons were tested in real combat conditions. A chance presented itself and a sin not to use it good
      Once he hinted that it would not hurt to run the arms around, so they almost declared a militarist laughing And advisers with attendants should analyze everything in order to then bring it together and work out measures to eliminate defects! soldier
      1. 0
        2 October 2015 05: 48
        lol What to test OFAB-250? hi"to destroy concrete fortifications" (on the "box" showed ...)
    40. 0
      1 October 2015 19: 57
      Regarding the testing of new weapons - that's for sure! You won’t cook porridge with some exercises.
    41. 0
      1 October 2015 20: 12
      Well, well, underdeveloped whales. After 4 years, destroying a beautiful ancient country, destroying so many people-to admit that Putin was right. But it was impossible before.
    42. 0
      1 October 2015 22: 19
      "John Kerry admitted that Assad's immediate resignation could destroy civil institutions and lead to 'collapse'"

      It only took Kerry four years to figure this out. For a mattress bed an excellent result, it is not hopeless!
    43. 0
      2 October 2015 00: 16
      The main thing is that after consultations with the "partners", the information would not go to ISIS.
      And then with such "allies" everything can be expected.
      If crowds of refugees helped Europe to understand that not everything is going smoothly in the "Danish kingdom"
      then the "democratic storks" have not yet reached the auction, and even then not for long.
      Their "exclusivity" is like an awl in the priest, they do not allow them to breathe evenly, and they want to play war games.
      In any, under any pretext.
      So, it’s necessary to conduct common business with them more carefully than to carry a basket of eggs on ice
    44. +2
      2 October 2015 05: 00
      30 September 2015 year.

      announcement.

      Citizens. Unipolar ended. Generally.
      For multipolar come tomorrow.

      Moscow Kremlin.

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