How to create a black myth about "raped Germany"

How to create a black myth about "raped Germany"

The black myth of the hundreds of thousands and millions of Germans raped in 1945 by Soviet soldiers (and representatives of other nations) has recently become part of the anti-Russian and anti-Soviet information campaign. This and other myths contribute to the transformation of Germans from aggressors into victims, the equalization of the USSR and Nazi Germany, and ultimately to the revision of the results of World War II with all the consequences historical geopolitical consequences.


September 24 liberal press again reminded of this myth. On the website of the Russian service "BBC" a large material: "The rape of Berlin: an unknown history of the war." The article reports that a diary book of the Soviet Army officer Vladimir Gelfand is going on sale in Russia, in which "the bloody everyday life of the Great Patriotic War is described without embellishment and notes."

The article begins with an indication of the Soviet monument. This is a monument to the Liberator Soldier in Treptow Park in Berlin. If for us this symbol of the salvation of European civilization from Nazism, then “for some in Germany this memorial is a reason for other memories. Soviet soldiers raped countless women on their way to Berlin, but this was rarely said after the war, both in East and in West Germany. And in Russia today, very few people talk about this. ”

The diary of Vladimir Gelfand tells “about the absence of order and discipline in the regular troops: poor rations, lice, routine anti-Semitism and endless theft. As he says, the soldiers even stole the boots of their comrades. ” It also reports on the rape of German women, and not as isolated cases, but on the system.

One can only wonder how the Red Army, in which there was no “order and discipline,” reigned “routine anti-Semitism and endless theft”, where soldiers were criminals, stealing things from comrades and a crowd of raping girls, was able to defeat the “superior race” and disciplined Wehrmacht . Apparently, “they were inundated with corpses,” as liberal historians have been urging us for a long time.

The author of the article, Lucy Ash, calls for rejecting prejudices and finding out the true history of the Second World War with all its unsightly sides: “... future generations should know the true horrors of war and deserve to see the unadorned picture”. However, instead, it only repeats the black myths that have already been refuted many times. “What was the real scale of rape?” The most commonly cited numbers in 100 are thousands of women in Berlin and two million throughout Germany. These figures, hotly contested, were extrapolated from the meager medical records that have survived to this day. ”

The myth of hundreds of thousands and millions of German soldiers raped in 1945 by Soviet soldiers has been rising regularly for the last 25 years, although it was not raised in the USSR nor by the Germans themselves before perestroika. In 1992, a book of two feminists was published in Germany, Helke Zander and Barbara Yor, “The Liberators and the Liberated,” where this shocking average number appeared: two million.

In 2002, Anthony Beevor’s book “The Fall of Berlin” was published, in which the author cited this figure without paying attention to its criticism. According to Beevor, he found in the Russian state archive reports "about the epidemic of sexual violence in Germany." At the end of 1944, these reports were sent by NKVD officers Lavrenty Beria. “They were transferred to Stalin,” says Beevor. - You can see the marks, they read or not. They report mass rapes in East Prussia and how German women tried to kill themselves and their children in order to avoid this fate. ”

The work of Beevor cites the following data: “According to the estimates of the two main Berlin hospitals, the number of victims raped by Soviet soldiers ranges from ninety-five to one hundred and thirty thousand people. One doctor concluded that approximately one hundred thousand women were raped in Berlin alone. And about ten thousand of them died mainly as a result of suicide. The number of deaths throughout East Germany is apparently much higher, if we take into account the million four hundred thousand raped in East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia. It seems that about two million German women were raped in total, many of whom (if not most) suffered this humiliation several times. ”

That is, we see the opinion of "one doctor"; the sources were described by the phrases “apparently,” “if,” and “represented.” In 2004, the book “The Fall of Berlin” by Anthony Beevor was published in Russia and became a “source” for numerous anti-Soviets, who picked up and spread the myth of “Soviet soldiers-rapists”. Now another similar “work” will appear - Gelfand's diary.

In fact, such facts, and they are inevitable in war, because even in peacetime, violence is one of the most common crimes, were exceptional, and they were severely punished for crimes. The order of Stalin from 19 January 1945 read: “Officers and Red Army! We are going to the country of the enemy. Everyone should keep his composure, everyone should be brave ... The remaining population in the conquered areas, regardless of whether the German, the Czech, or the Pole, should not be subjected to violence. The guilty will be punished according to the laws of wartime. In the conquered territory, sexual relations with the female sex are not allowed. Perpetrators of violence and rape will be shot. ”

With marauders and rapists fought hard. The criminals fell under military tribunals. For looting, rape and other crimes, punishment was severe: 15 years of camps, penalty battalion, execution. The report of the military prosecutor of the 1 of the Belarusian Front on illegal actions against the civilian population for the period from April 22 to May 5 of the year 1945 contains the following figures: for seven armies of the front 908,5 were recorded crimes, of which 124 was rape. 72 cases on 72 thousands. Where are the hundreds of thousands of German women raped?

With harsh measures, the wave of revenge was quickly put out. It should be remembered that not all crimes were committed by Soviet soldiers. It was noted that the Poles particularly avenged the Germans during the years of humiliation. Former forced laborers and prisoners of concentration camps received freedom; some of them began to revenge. Australian war correspondent Osmar White was in Europe in the ranks of the 3 American Army and noted: “... when former forced laborers and concentration camp prisoners filled the roads and started looting one town after another, the situation got out of control ... gathered in gangs in order to settle with the Germans. "

2 May 1945, the military prosecutor of 1 of the Belorussian Front, Yachenin reported: “The repatriated people, especially the Italians, the Dutch, and even the Germans, are widely involved in assaults, especially robbery and bureaucracy. At the same time, all these disgraces are blamed on our servicemen ... "This was also reported to Stalin and Beria:" In Berlin there are a large number of Italians, French, Polish, Americans and British prisoners of war freed from the camps who take personal belongings and property from the local population. on carts and heading west. Measures are being taken to seize their stolen property. "

Osmar White also noted high discipline in the Soviet troops: “There was no terror in Prague or another part of Bohemia by the Russians. Russians are harsh realists in relation to collaborators and fascists, but a person with a clear conscience has nothing to fear. In the Red Army dominated by severe discipline. There is no more robbery, rape and bullying than any other zone of occupation. Wild stories of atrocities emerge due to exaggerations and distortions of individual cases under the influence of Czech nervousness caused by the immoderate manner of Russian soldiers and their love of vodka. One woman who told me most of the tales about the cruelties of Russians, from which her hair stood on end, was eventually forced to admit that the only evidence she saw with her own eyes was how drunk Russian officers fired pistols into the air or at bottles ... "

Many veterans and contemporaries of the Second World War noted that severe discipline prevailed in the Red Army. Do not forget that in the Stalinist USSR created a society of service and creation. They brought up heroes, creators and producers, and not punks and rapists. Soviet troops entered Europe as liberators, not conquerors, respectively, Soviet soldiers and commanders behaved.

It is worth recalling that the Nazis, representatives of European civilization, behaved like beasts on Soviet soil. The Nazis slaughtered people like cattle, raped, wiped out entire settlements from the face of the earth. For example, what was an ordinary Wehrmacht soldier was told at the Nuremberg trials. The typical corporal of the 355 security battalion, Muller, killed Soviet citizens, including old men, women and babies, during the occupation of 96. They also raped thirty-two Soviet women, six of whom were killed. It is clear that when it became clear that the war was lost, many were seized with horror. The Germans were afraid that the Russians would avenge them. And the fair punishment was deserved.

In fact, the first to launch the myth of the “red rapists” and “hordes from the East” were the ideologists of the Third Reich. The current "researchers" and liberal publicists only repeat the rumors and gossip that came up in Hitler's Germany to intimidate the population, to preserve its submission. To the Germans fought until the very last moment. That death in battle seemed to them an easy fate compared with captivity and occupation.

The Reich Minister of Education and the Propaganda of Germany Joseph Goebbels wrote in March 1945: “... in fact, we are dealing with steppe scum in the person of Soviet soldiers. This is confirmed by information about atrocities that came to us from the eastern regions. They really cause horror ... In some villages and cities, all women between ten and seventy years old were subjected to countless rape. It seems that this is done by order from above, since one can see an obvious system in the behavior of Soviet soldiers. ”

This myth is immediately replicated. Hitler himself appealed to the population: “Soldiers on the Eastern Front! The last time a mortal enemy in the face of the Bolsheviks and the Jews goes on the offensive. He is trying to defeat Germany and destroy our people. You soldiers on the Eastern Front, for the most part, already know yourself what destiny is destined above all to German women, girls and children. While old people and children will be killed, women and girls will be relegated to barracks prostitutes. The rest will go to Siberia. ” On the Western Front, German propaganda used the image of a Negro raping blond German women instead of Russians to intimidate the local population.

Thus, the leaders of the Reich tried to make people fight to the end. At the same time, people were brought to panic, deadly horror. A significant part of the population of East Prussia fled to the western regions. In Berlin itself, a series of suicides. Gone from the whole family.

After the war, this myth was supported by the Anglo-Saxon publications. The Cold War was in full swing and the United States and Britain were waging an active information war with the Soviet civilization. Many myths that are actively used in the Third Reich, adopted by the Anglo-Saxons and their singers in Western Europe. In 1954, the book “Woman in Berlin” was published in the USA. Its author is a journalist Martha Hiller. In West Germany, the diary was published in 1960. In 2003, the Woman in Berlin was republished in many countries, and the Western media eagerly picked up the theme of “raped Germany”. A few years later, the film “Nameless” was shot using this book. After this, the work of E. Beevor “The Fall of Berlin” was accepted by the liberal editions “with a bang.” The soil has already been prepared.

At the same time in the West, they turn a blind eye to the fact that American, French and British troops are responsible for mass crimes in Germany, including rape. For example, the German historian M. Gebhardt believes that only Americans raped at least 190 thousands of German women, and this process continued until the 1955 year. Especially the atrocities of the soldiers from the colonial parts - Arabs and negros. But this in the West, try not to remember.

Also in the West, they don’t want to recall that a strong German socialist state of the GDR was created on the German territory controlled by the USSR (6 economy in Europe in 1980). And "raped Germany" was the most loyal and self-sufficient ally of the USSR in Europe. If all the crimes about which the followers of Goebbels and Hitler write, would in fact be, then in principle there would probably be good neighborly and allied relations that lasted more than four decades.

Thus, the rape of German women by Soviet soldiers really were, there are documents and statistics on the number of convicts. But these crimes were exceptional, they were not massive and systematic. If we compare the total number of convicts for these crimes to the entire number of Soviet troops in the occupied territories, the percentage will be quite insignificant. At the same time, crimes were committed not only by Soviet troops, but also by Poles, French, Americans, British (including representatives of colonial troops), prisoners of war freed from camps, etc.

The black myth of the "Soviet soldiers-rapists" was created in the Third Reich, to frighten the population, to force him to fight to the end. Then this myth was restored by the Anglo-Saxons, who fought the information war against the USSR. This war continues at the present time, with the aim of turning the USSR into an aggressor, Soviet soldiers into invaders and rapists, in order to level the USSR and Nazi Germany. In the end, our "partners" strive to revise the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War, with all the ensuing historical and geopolitical consequences.
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  1. venaya 30 September 2015 06: 14 New
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    Artful propaganda created by the heirs of Ph.D. Joseph Goebbels (even though he started it). Almost the first, and rather successful example of waging war on alternative methods in the post-war period. Although apparently not a very noticeable reception.
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    2. siberalt 30 September 2015 08: 04 New
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      Rape statistics are a thankless task. Usually it is based on the appeals of the victims to the law enforcement agency, and even then some of them are not confirmed by the results of the audit. And so, continuous anti-Russian propaganda on the "estimates" of biased clever people.
      1. Vend 30 September 2015 09: 43 New
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        Why was this myth created? Not to blacken the Soviet soldiers and our victory. This is only a consequence. The main reason is to divert attention from the mayhem created by US soldiers. They distinguished themselves not only in Germany, but also in Japan. Even in historic Hollywood films, the theme of American violence against the vanquished regularly appears.
      2. Scraptor 30 September 2015 13: 44 New
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        1,5 million official police appeals. Then they knocked off more than twice as there were many calls from the same "belts" who were not paid for services.
    3. Aleksander 30 September 2015 11: 50 New
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      Quote: venaya
      Artful propaganda created by the heirs of Ph.D. Joseph Goebbels

      We know this is FALSE. But why is there NO SINGLE monograph-study on the rape of Soviet women ?! But we are talking about more than TEN MILLIONS women, about a million to three million children born out of violence. And if the Red Army officers were OFFICIALLY warned and punished, then the German soldiers were officially the opposite, practically ALL were allowed in relation to the non-military.
      Previously, it was clear that the East Germans were spared, then just the Germans - in the name of "friendship" .... But now, finally, you need to say a documented justification the truth and set at least moral account. And by the way, we are not talking only about the Germans, but about the atrocities of the Magyars and Romanians too.
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    5. Max_Bauder 30 September 2015 13: 10 New
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      Custom theme like a rezun. Here about "raped Germany, exclusively by Russian soldiers", and the second about "how Stalin wanted to start the war himself, and Hitler got ahead of him defending himself." Both nonsense sucked from a finger. Recently, the Germans themselves admitted in newspaper articles that the Americans, the British and the French had raped more.
  2. Russian Uzbek 30 September 2015 06: 23 New
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    My great-grandfather took Koenigsberg - and so he told me that everything happened, especially at the beginning when they entered Germany ... the army had many people who had lost loved ones, many people from the occupied territories who had seen enough over the years of the occupation of Aryan spectacles - people were going to take revenge!
    and the propaganda itself warmed up - about "Kill the German!" everyone heard? it then went to the topic "We are not at war with the German people but with the Nazis", and we managed to stop the atrocities by the most decisive measures (up to executions) ...
    in general, my great-grandfather said that after the war the Germans gave themselves up for a piece of bread or a can of canned food, that it doesn’t matter to our geldings! hunger he is not aunt, yeah ...
    1. venaya 30 September 2015 06: 44 New
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      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      My great-grandfather took Koenigsberg - ... everything happened, especially at the beginning when they entered Germany ... there were many people in the army who had lost loved ones ... - people went to take revenge!
      and the propaganda itself warmed up - about "Kill the German!" everyone heard? it then went to the topic “We are not at war with the German people but against the Nazis”, and we managed to stop the atrocities by the most decisive measures (up to the shootings) ... but in general my great-grandfather said that the Germans after the war gave themselves up for a piece of bread or a can of canned food ...

      It’s hard to disagree with you. The question is that there was an outright propaganda bias, because the Americans were richer (I had relatives at that time in Berlin), and what was happening in the western part of Germany, unfortunately, is completely oblivious, completely. War is a dirty business, no one argues, but everything is relative, it's just about that.
      1. Kazakh 30 September 2015 09: 27 New
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        Quote: venaya
        War is a dirty business, no one argues,

        I bet. If you take it with dirty hands, then everything can be wiped out, including war. And in general, I hate cleanlings who just talk. War is dirty, politics is dirty, police are dirty if you are so clean and right, pick up the same ones and show how to do it It’s pure. But you don’t need to sit on the mound and on all those passing through the mind.
        1. venaya 30 September 2015 14: 54 New
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          Quote: Kazakh
          Quote: venaya
          War is a dirty business, no one argues,
          I bet. ... War is dirty, politics is dirty, militia is dirty ...

          Do you want to fight like that? For me, the ideal of the army is the army of the period of Alexander III, during which during the entire period of his reign no more than 7 soldiers died. He did not get involved in any military alliances and tried not to fight with anyone. But for this he contained a powerful army force, such that no one even decided to compete with it (which still annoys all kinds of revolutionaries). Recall the Tsar Cannon, why is it needed? Yes, only her appearance stopped the desire to fight with Russia. This is exactly what nuclear (thermonuclear) weapons do. But as a result of real hostilities, flowers disappear from life. When the guns speak (“The King’s Last Argument”), nothing good happens. But when there is a powerful army ("The penultimate argument of the king"), then the flowers (and children) do not suffer in any way.
    2. gaura 30 September 2015 08: 36 New
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      Recently I read the book Memoirs of the war from one of the fighters of the Volkhov Front. The veteran clearly had no fiery feelings for the Soviet army. In particular, he described violence and barbaric behavior in captured cities. At the same time, agreeing that the Germans themselves offered food and that no one touched some.
    3. Aleksander 30 September 2015 12: 45 New
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      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      my great-grandfather took Koenigsberg - and so he told me that everything happened

      Did your great-grandfather tell you about rape ?! I can hardly imagine it, especially since my grandfathers, for example, did not want to talk about the war at all ....
    4. Pancho 30 September 2015 22: 14 New
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      what the gelding

      As I understand it, this nickname of the Americans is ridiculous.
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  3. Red Army of the USSR 30 September 2015 06: 29 New
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    mattresses and Saxons, as they were Honduras, remained Honduras.
  4. strelets 30 September 2015 06: 53 New
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    In Germany, a rape statement was the only way to legally have an abortion. This is where the wave of terrible statistics comes from. But in reality there was nothing to feed the children.
    1. Zoldat_A 30 September 2015 10: 17 New
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      But in reality there was nothing to feed the children.

      Notice when they had something to feed the children, when the convoys with confiscated food were coming from the occupied territories - they are “hail!” they screamed, but did not stand in the gateways. And they liked everything. And they did not think about whose bread their children eat. So for some reason I don’t feel sorry for them ... Hitler promised them that "every German will have bread and butter for breakfast," so they did not rock the boat. Until they came, at the expense of whose children they had their own sandwich ...
  5. 31rus 30 September 2015 07: 21 New
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    I also read works of our scribblers that they just didn’t write, and Zhukov personally fought against looters and rapists, and this is elevated to the rank of routine of the Soviet troops, and we have to start with such “ours”, but I’ll say about the EU again, they bury themselves, so good luck to you
  6. parusnik 30 September 2015 07: 45 New
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    Well, yes .. The Red Army is completely rapists .. when the Anglo-American allies entered Europe ... there was a general robbery and violence .. the number of brothels that existed under the Germans. Doubled .. But they don’t write about it .. Europeans some "democratic" troops raped and did not even rape, European women gave their love to the "liberators" almost disinterestedly, as they had before given to the invaders ..
    "Than the gossips to work
    Isn't it better to turn on yourself, godfather? "
  7. Basil50 30 September 2015 07: 48 New
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    Like any myth, this one has an author, in this case Goebels. Many employees of the Ministry of Propaganda found refuge and a piece of * bread * under the wing * of Western democracy *, so they passed the previous achievements to the benefactors? Again unconditional faith and obedience to any idea voiced * from above * are brought up. Moreover, the ideology of Nazism in Europe is old, its own and almost * native *. So, different * eyewitnesses * and those who can artistically decorate any * bunch * appear to justify their bestiality. And what is all this for? That is the question.
  8. nivander 30 September 2015 08: 04 New
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    the same E. Bivor tried to portray objectivity and talk about cases of violence committed by soldiers of the Allied armies. However, he was quickly and decisively reminded with whose hands he feeds and where his place is. The poor man had to repent for a long time and snotty
  9. Reptiloid 30 September 2015 08: 06 New
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    He wrote several times that the Germans themselves ... Nurses in the hospital whispered about their head, about her experience, her stories about the war. It was a long time ago, I was then quite small, lying in the infectious diseases department. and the head was an infectious disease doctor. She came to Berlin, was awarded orders and medals. She wore orders and medals on solemn nights at the hospital --- all the staff saw. Then the Germans asked the same doctor to have abortions --- they say that everyone knows that they are with the Russians ... But the husband is alive, it turns out! .. But the doctor didn’t deal with it. That's where these complaints came from --- to her husband about the pregnancy "it is not known who attacked." food, also from the fact that you missed the Man: (a husband, a German, probably will never come back) If we did not remember for a long time what was on Howl not --- completely different remembered!
  10. rotmistr60 30 September 2015 08: 07 New
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    This and other myths contribute to the transformation of Germans from aggressors into victims.

    This is the main goal. No matter how the Germans “repented” for their deeds, the spirit of the revival of a new and strong Germany was always present. This has become especially noticeable in recent years under Merkel.
    1. alebor 30 September 2015 10: 12 New
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      Yes, indeed, in recent years, especially under Merkel, Germany began to revive, becoming new, strong and Muslim.
  11. Dazdranagon 30 September 2015 08: 39 New
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    The worst thing is that in the West they talk about this without a doubt as a fact, but at the same time do not give any facts. But as always...
  12. Engineer 30 September 2015 08: 44 New
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    Yes, how much can you already !? Leave you the memory of our grandfathers alone! Some delve into dirty laundry, while others try to wash it!
    1. lelyk72 30 September 2015 14: 07 New
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      If they "dig", then how can we without "laundering" something?
    2. lelyk72 30 September 2015 14: 08 New
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      or be silent ??
  13. Colonel 30 September 2015 08: 47 New
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    The work of Bivor provides such data ....

    They also found an Expert for me. Antony Beevor pronounced Russophobe, but with a claim to objectivity. His "Stalingrad", published with us in 1999, is a very vivid example of "objectivity." One side "German gunners in shorts, with tanned, muscular bodies looked more like athletes ..."And"young peasants drafted into the army from collective farms, who had no idea about modern weapons"which"clearly drunk"the commanders drove to the slaughter, on the other. And in general they won only because"at the helm became new, energetic, ruthless and fearless NKVD commanders". That is, a specific" corpse dumper. "
  14. SPB 1221 30 September 2015 09: 06 New
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    The German fascists walked through our country with fire and sword, raping mothers, wives, sisters, fighting Russian soldiers! Believe me, I am against crimes, but if that was so, then I personally have no right to condemn people who have reached the den of the beast with weapons in their hands.
  15. Reptiloid 30 September 2015 09: 15 New
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    That's because there was a vacuum, it filled the line with what.
    I am writing for the sake of my grandfather, who went to the front at the age of 16, externally graduated with honors from an average summer school. There was a year left until Victory.
  16. Archikah 30 September 2015 09: 42 New
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    Kill and burn everyone !!! He raised his tail to Russia-rape, kill, rape again and then burn !!! am
    1. Kazakh 30 September 2015 09: 55 New
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      Quote: Archikah
      rap, kill, rape again and then burn !!!

      Do not burn the coals to rape? laughing you must kill without mocking, otherwise you will cripple your soul.
  17. Jääkorppi 30 September 2015 10: 17 New
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    Hooray!! If there were millions of rape, then most of the inhabitants of East Germany are the descendants of our heroes soldiers! It's time to restore historical justice and annex Germany to Russia! laughing
    1. venaya 30 September 2015 10: 30 New
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      Hooray!! ... most of the inhabitants of East Germany are descendants of our heroes soldiers! It's time to restore historical justice and annex Germany to Russia! laughing

      I'm sorry, but Germany has always been a part of Russia. After all, all Rurikovich come from present-day Germany, from the island of Rugen. And then it was called not Germany but Porusia (Prussia, in German). And they created the German Empire only in 1871 (Bismarck and others). And Berlin was always the capital of the Prussian Kingdom, and not some kind of Germany there. So genetics talks about it, so everything is fine.
  18. 0255 30 September 2015 10: 19 New
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    Unfortunately, propaganda about 100500 raped German women aged 8 to 80 yields results, young people believe her fool
    1. inpu 30 September 2015 18: 37 New
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      Quote: 0255
      Unfortunately, propaganda about 100500 raped German women aged 8 to 80 yields results, young people believe her fool

      And what to believe, not to believe. The brain must be turned on, but dig in the literature. They raped in Korea, raped in Vietnam, raped in Iraq and Iran, in Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Ukraine, Yugoslavia, damn it, they also raped. And this is in recent wars in recent years. But in Germany, Nooooo, do not believe it, did not rape. What kind of nonsense?

      In fact, this is the predicted behavior of a man in a state of such stress. Moreover, he does not care who to rape. They will pull a man out of a hot spot, take him home, if they don’t attach a psychologist, then the probability that he will force someone to slip him on is very high. Even if she is a citizen of her country.
      1. Scraptor 30 September 2015 19: 45 New
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        The brain must be turned on,

        There was probably a whole tsunami of rape when Soviet soldiers demobilized after the Second World War.

        Child 44 less need to watch ...
        1. inpu 30 September 2015 23: 07 New
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          Quote: Scraptor
          Quote: inpu
          The brain must be turned on,

          There was probably a whole tsunami of rape when Soviet soldiers demobilized after the Second World War.

          Child 44 less need to watch ...

          There were, moreover, the entire territory of trains with demobilized trains. But it was not so massive on its territory, and no one canceled the execution order. There were predictable spikes in crime.
          One can note today already an incomprehensible gesture in old films in which they were shot, and which were shot by people who saw with their own eyes a war, civil, or world, a gesture when young girls are cut off, or hide braids when they see a stranger, or a group of strangers returning from the war.
          1. Scraptor 1 October 2015 09: 27 New
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            The brain must be turned on - 2

            With the "demobilized" after the amnesty - perhaps.

            This is the same gesture as the ring is being turned so that it looks like an engagement ring.
      2. dali 30 September 2015 22: 10 New
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        Quote: inpu
        In fact, this is the predicted behavior of a man in a state of such stress. Moreover, he does not care who to rape. They will pull a man out of a hot spot, take him home, if they don’t attach a psychologist, then the probability that he will force someone to slip him on is very high. Even if she is a citizen of her country.
        On their own people are not judged ... am

        By the way, but I know firsthand ... from my grandfather ...
        And that the order for the troops came out just cruel, as soon as it began ... a little bit that the execution ... quickly some violent little heads cooled off !!!

        So do not you go on foot erotic journey ... am
        1. inpu 30 September 2015 23: 41 New
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          Quote: Dali
          Quote: inpu
          In fact, this is the predicted behavior of a man in a state of such stress. Moreover, he does not care who to rape. They will pull a man out of a hot spot, take him home, if they don’t attach a psychologist, then the probability that he will force someone to slip him on is very high. Even if she is a citizen of her country.
          On their own people are not judged ... am

          By the way, but I know firsthand ... from my grandfather ...
          And that the order for the troops came out just cruel, as soon as it began ... a little bit that the execution ... quickly some violent little heads cooled off !!!

          So do not you go on foot erotic journey ... am

          You can minus what I write, and even get personal, send it, etc. But this does not cancel the fact that I was personally invited as a consultant to solve this problem. I am well acquainted with the techniques that are resorted to in a particular state. He put his hand to some.

          At the expense of executions, so it is known. Yes, it helps a little, yes, they shoot, but still they rape. You need to understand who does this and in what condition. A large number are people who are already in a state when, having taken away the lives of others, they are fully aware at the moment that they can fly. There is fear, but this is a familiar state and not overwhelming. To frighten such a shot ...

          We must also understand that violence in this case is not some kind of moral ugliness and moral decline. Often these are very adequate people in peacetime, who would never have allowed themselves not only violence, even ordinary adultery. And if you ask after years of what for he did it, he will say something like: "That demon beguiled")) Or some kind of excuse as above.

          You can verify this yourself, just shove open information. We need to look at where veterans of recent wars are transported, to which units and regions, and compare these data with the dynamics of rape in this region.
          I’ll have to rummage around, they don’t like to advertise this. Openly only the Japanese recently published, those who advocate the closure of a number of American bases. They spiked a little ... Their race came about by sending veterans from Afghanistan to serve in Japan until the end of the contract, and they issued it as if it were a constant around US bases.
      3. Buffalo 1 October 2015 07: 18 New
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        Psychologist, at war ?!
        There is a sergeant nearby, with a gun. And the sergeant has an order: to punish for rape!
        After that there are not many who wish to take risks.
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          Quote: Bison
          Psychologist, at war ?!
          There is a sergeant nearby, with a gun. And the sergeant has an order: to punish for rape!
          After that there are not many who wish to take risks.

          The psychologist is usually not on the front line, but in the rear, or in civilian life. Moreover, the goals and objectives of the first and second are different.

          It’s good to punish rape, but when they set very “optimistic” terms for very specific tasks, then every fighter counts. And really, not all orders are executed. Even after the war Zhukov himself personally told how he quarreled with the special forces who tried to shoot his people.

          At the expense of those wishing to take risks. Here, too, it is not all simple. After a long stay at the forefront and living in constant fear, many execution orders can be interpreted as orders to be vaccinated. Although today it’s rarely when people are brought to such a state, but it happens.

          It’s all so clever and cultural in civilian life, there is morality. You look once in the eyes of a dude who just got out of hell and immediately overtakes the realization that we are inhabitants of different planets.
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            Ndasss ... the State Department stole, straight back ... for how many silver coins sold ?!

            Do you think they will believe you ?! belay Any nonsense is possible ...


            Quote: inpu
            At the expense of executions, so it is known. Yes, it helps a little, yes, they shoot, but still they rape. You need to understand who does this and in what condition. A large number are people who are already in a state when, having taken away the lives of others, they are fully aware at the moment that they can fly. There is fear, but this is a familiar state and not overwhelming. To frighten such a shot ...
            But I believe my grandfather more than 1000 times than you "consultant" you are our super-duper ... and who invited you to advise ... laughing

            Look at him how brave he is - not to be afraid of being shot, but you know that in addition to being shot, the title of a traitor also relies in this case - or you don’t know about that either.
            How did you still get the State Department liberals ... not a single day in the war, but to teach there ... if my grandfather were alive and well now, he would teach you the mind, so that you would mix .. . laughing

            Quote: inpu
            You can minus what I write, and even get personal, send it, etc. But this does not cancel the fact that I was personally invited as a consultant to solve this problem.
            I can also write that the Queen of England invited me to advise her ... laughing
  19. lilian 30 September 2015 10: 27 New
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    Thank you for the article.
  20. xoma58 30 September 2015 10: 29 New
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    I see no reason to even discuss this nonsense. Maybe they improved a little the gene pool of these nonhumans, so what, they didn’t kill it. Although, for what these non-humans did in our country, it was necessary to roll up the whole geyrop with tanks into the ground. Let them thank comrade Stalin for their existence.
  21. Nonna 30 September 2015 11: 15 New
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    As usual, the West is engaged in rewriting history all over. Who is the Ukrainian Jew Gelfand? Apart from his surname and his affiliation to the God-chosen nation, there are no facts about him. All this Anglo-Saxon pack is trying to denigrate the feat of the Soviet soldier and our victory. The Germans are a nation of complete degenerates. According to statistics, out of ten men in Germany - 4 fat, 2 Muslims, 2 pederasts and only 2 remaining correctly oriented. Well now, refugees will correct their statistics.
  22. abc_alex 30 September 2015 11: 33 New
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    That is, we see the opinion of “one doctor”; the sources were described by the phrases “apparently”, “if” and “appear”.


    Even more so, this is not his data. He copied this data from the book by Helke Zander and Barbara Yor, “Liberators and the Liberated” (“BeFreier und Befreite”). This opus, although marked by a direct lie (false "quotes" by Ehrenburg, the plot about Nemmersdorf from Goebbels's Wochenschau), also laid the foundation for mythology about millions of raped Germans.
    Moreover, the methodology of counting is not something that does not withstand any criticism, but in some places it gives away to seasoned Nazism and at least Russophobia.
    To begin with, all arithmetic is based on one single report of the ONE SINGLE German children's clinic “Empress Augusta Victoria”. What is nonsense.

    In it, fathers of 12 (or 13) of the 237 children born in 1945 examined in this hospital and 20 (or 21) children born in 1946 were recorded Russians. Next, the German (well, the Nazi, where to go) writes all these cases on violence. Obviously, the concept of uber and untermeshi is so firmly entrenched in her brains that she excludes sexual contact with a Russian German woman of her own free will from the possible in this universe. But percent is important to her. This is 5%.

    Further, based on the statistics of another hospital (also one!) She states that in case of violence, pregnancy occurs in 20% of cases.
    In addition, she claims that 90% of women who become pregnant by the abuser have an abortion.

    And then the arithmetic started:
    Official Berlin statistics give for the period from September 1945 to August 1946. 23124 newborns. According to the clinic "Empress Augusta Victoria" fathers of 5% of newborns were Russian.
    5% of 23124 is 1156. This gave birth from Russian rapists.
    We multiply by 10 - 11560 became pregnant after violence by Russians.
    Multiply by 5 - 57800 were raped.

    Well, for now it at least looks like nonsense, and it is nonsense, but at least it somehow fits into the laws of logic.
    But then ....

    In Berlin in 1945, there were 600000 women of childbearing age from 18 to 45 years. Divide, multiply, we get that 9,5% of them were raped.
    And in Berlin, there were girls from 14 to 17 and ladies from 45 and older. And there were 800 thousand of them. The evil untermes could not get around these age categories either! Although not all of these ladies were recognized as capable of violence, a range of 4,75 to 9,5% is proposed, which from 800 thousand gives an additional 36650-73300 victims.

    Add, we get: out of 1,4 million Germans, 94450-131100 were raped, on average more than 110000.

    Beautiful arithmetic?

    And here is the source table.


    Who knows German - appreciate it.

    The rest can become overwhelmed by the fact that out of 32 children born by Germans from Russian men, they managed to suck as much as 110 thousand rape.
  23. russmensch 30 September 2015 12: 11 New
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    Rape Germany mean? Probably there have been cases. And how without it? Indeed, very many wives and children were burned in sheds, shot and raped by the husbands of these Germans as well ... But the heart remembers everything ...
    And it seems to be not quite the topic, but I recall the case of the late 70s. I then served in the 96th artillery regiment (au fellow soldiers). A German came with a complaint of rape by a Soviet soldier. They built a regiment, it went through and did not recognize the rapist. Then she asked for 150 marks of compensation for torn jeans and claims were withdrawn. At so much she appreciated her "girl's honor."
    1. yegor_k 30 September 2015 12: 35 New
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      The funny thing is not the number of "raped", but the number of suicides after that. The Germans themselves were ready to jump into bunks, if only they would be left alive, because believed that they were worthy of death for what the Nazis did on the Eastern Front.
  24. sergei.84 30 September 2015 13: 33 New
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    And it is surprising to me that people lying in the graves are accused. Did they get up, raped, and then lay down again?
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    Thanks to the author for a good article. In heated discussions, links to sources work better than beating to the head.
  26. wadim13 30 September 2015 17: 22 New
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    About 10 years ago, when Yushchenko’s henchmen began to promote on TV the topic of rape of Germans, I asked about this from my grandfather, who took Berlin. Grandfather didn’t talk about the war at all, but then he was in intensive care after pulmonary edema and thought that he wouldn’t be able to survive. So he began to speak more or less frankly. He said about rape that there was everything. But not en masse and the order put in the forces very quickly. And then he asked: “How do you think it should have been? If you knew how we rushed to those beasts in a den. How many friends I buried. And how many my friends lost in the occupation of children, wives, mothers and folders. We went there with one desire - to make sure that for centuries of inheritance they still have a fear of Soviet man. "
    1. inpu 30 September 2015 18: 28 New
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      Quote: wadim13
      We went there with one desire - to make sure that for centuries in their inheritance the fear of Soviet people would remain

      In the case of Germany, yes, no excuse. But it does not explain the rape that occurs on its territory. Those. when warriors rape their own women. This applies not only to the Second World War, and not only to the USSR. This is happening all over the world today, in all the armies that are fighting, and this is a massive phenomenon!

      Today it is generally accepted that a soldier who lives in a state where he can fly to him at any moment, at the animal level, seeks only to slip in and leave offspring. The phenomenon is known, how to fight is known. Each army has its own efficiency in restoring soldiers after the war.
  27. Trigger-Happy 30 September 2015 18: 02 New
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    If someone wants to really know what and how it really was, and not what they wrote in Soviet history textbooks, etc., then read the memoirs of real war veterans. There are not many of them, but they exist and really open their eyes. I can advise: 1) Alexander Shumilin - "Vanka company" 2) Nikolai Nikulin - memoirs. And I advise you to read it in this order.
  28. inpu 30 September 2015 18: 16 New
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    War and rape always go together. it completely normal homosapiens behavior. Those who dealt with the restoration of the mental health of the military who came from the war - they know this very well, and already today they are able to deal with this phenomenon. In my opinion, specialists in Israel are doing the best today. Just respect to their psychologists.
    Regarding the essence of the history of rape - another vile propaganda. Yes, there were rape! And a lot. Then they were not able to fight them, not only in the USSR, but also in other countries. If someone says that the same British army, or the US Army has not raped so much, he will brazenly lie. They not only raped women then, but they do it today. This is one of the reasons why they are in no hurry to return veterans home. And American psychologists have very low efficiency.
    Ce la vie.
  29. uwzek 30 September 2015 20: 11 New
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    Article handed minus. If the author wanted to convey something clear to us unreasonable, he lacked arguments and accuracy in their presentation ...
    Genosse Samsonov showed himself in the role of Don Quixote at the time of the struggle with flour-making machines. If he tried to refute the facts of violence, then why confirm their presence without citing the statistics to which he refers. Instead, there was a whisper about the “Russo tourist-shaped morality” (well, I would have explained that the part that broke into the village was obliged to put up military guard, into which two-thirds of the personnel were sent, due to which our whole army was not able to personally to participate, okay, laughed at the wild percentage of pedophiles and necrophiles in our army who could desire children and grandmothers).
    Why try to justify our sins, for which we are not obliged to repent, to argue, trying to look believable, with pornographic speculations in the style of de Sade (he wrote all his books alone in the Bastille, where he spent almost all his conscious life)? Small and stupid ...
  30. Kilo-11 30 September 2015 20: 43 New
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    Information for consideration on the topic — on January 28, 1945, in the area of ​​Posen, a deputy commander of the 8th guards mechanized corps Hero of the Soviet Union Guards Colonel VM Gorelov was killed in the back when he tried to stop the marauders in military uniform Red Army soldiers. Here and think, dear comrade commentators, whether or not there was looting-violence in the ranks of our troops in 1945, and on what scale it was a shameful thing, if the horseshoe in military uniform, I can’t name such people, I don’t even was able to stop the military officer, Vladimir ihaylovich fought from the first day of the Second World War, the war came as a commander of a tank regiment, with epaulets "Colonel" and the Gold Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union on the chest.
  31. Zaurbek 30 September 2015 23: 07 New
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    Friends, after what the Germans did on the territory of the USSR, I would not only rape, but also castrate civilized Europeans. You read how they treated our prisoners and we with them. Germany was very lucky that after the defeat their number was not reduced by half the male.
  32. Reptiloid 1 October 2015 03: 29 New
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    Quote: Scraptor
    Quote: inpu
    The brain must be turned on,

    There was probably a whole tsunami of rape when Soviet soldiers demobilized after the Second World War.

    Child 44 less need to watch ...

    Then another companion wrote about the shots from films. And I have the opposite: what films - so all the women themselves lure a soldier somewhere.
    In Germany (and maybe in the GDR), after 20 years or more, suicide statistics began - they were committed by the descendants of the warring Germans, who probably did not know about the crimes of their ancestors. The Germans statistics were statistics and it turned out that past crimes affect descendants. The theory of BERT HELLINGER appeared, and since the 80s, on the basis of this theory, this German pastor Bert Hellinger created the “constellation” technique. It’s all there is to the network. The bottom line is that the Germans themselves were silent about it and recorded that even those killed (or old), or dead Hitler continue to worsen the fate of their descendants. This theory is well known in other countries. As a result, to add their youth from hardships, they began to pay all sorts of compensation strongly after the war. There are books by this author, his students.
  33. igorka357 1 October 2015 05: 08 New
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    "Yes, the Russian soldier is bloodthirsty and cruel, he is merciless to male women and children of enemies, he destroys everyone in a row, tears the throats of small babies with his teeth .. because those who attacked his land and his family, rape enemy women, he’s ready to tear his hands enemies who came to his land! So don’t people come, don’t touch the Russian land, Russians don’t want war ... but if you came to conquer them .. then get ready to get all the charms of a Russian soldier who is going to free his land, and going to the den enemy that would break his spine, and believe "I don’t have any mercy for you; from an angry Russian going to kill for his home, his land, his family ... there will be no mercy for anyone!"
    This note was found by one Wehrmacht general, well, you can argue with the first sayings about the "throats of babies", but the last real truth came to us with a sword, get ready to feel how the steel of this sword will cut you!
  34. Buffalo 1 October 2015 06: 45 New
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    My grandfather fought, his eldest son also fought. My grandfather's elder brother fought and died in the first battle, near Kastornaya.
    According to the stories of my uncle, the eldest son of my grandfather, there was no need to rape German women. They themselves did it with pleasure, for only half a loaf of bread. With food in Germany was intense, with men - even more so. And our soldiers were supplied well, there was no shortage of food.
    By the way, the situation in Germany was no exception.
    It is known that after the defeat of Napoleon and the capture of Paris, our Cossacks and officers enjoyed success with the Parisians. Every second then gave birth to a Russian ...
    So, in Paris, our left a good mark!
  35. Doobrodukh 1 October 2015 07: 29 New
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    What a vile and ugly myth. How could the red warriors rape?
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      Look at "4 days in May", usually they raped them ... I saw them myself.

      The main character in the film was wrong - he just had to slap at the witnesses of this "comrade" right away. Then they would quickly figure it out.
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    Quote: Russian Uzbek
    My great-grandfather took Koenigsberg - and so he told me that everything happened, especially at the beginning when they entered Germany ... the army had many people who had lost loved ones, many people from the occupied territories who had seen enough over the years of the occupation of Aryan spectacles - people were going to take revenge!
    and the propaganda itself warmed up - about "Kill the German!" everyone heard? it then went to the topic "We are not at war with the German people but with the Nazis", and we managed to stop the atrocities by the most decisive measures (up to executions) ...
    in general, my great-grandfather said that after the war the Germans gave themselves up for a piece of bread or a can of canned food, that it doesn’t matter to our geldings! hunger he is not aunt, yeah ...

    That's why grandfathers did not like to talk about the war - there is too much dirt, but a normal person wants to quickly forget about it. Your grandfather told the truth! In many memoirs, veterans mention that atrocities were stopped only when the troops were rotated. I myself, brought up on Soviet history and beautiful good Soviet films about the war, argued more than once and tried to prove to people that this could not be, slander, but we were shot for this .... But then, when I started reading, there was a rethinking and understanding of many things. But in general, at the level of the state’s policy, everything is done correctly, youth must be educated on patriotism. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers are winners, a deep bow to them !!!!!
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      They don’t like to talk about any war, especially to children, and for a completely different reason.
  37. Trigger-Happy 1 October 2015 10: 27 New
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    For children there are history books. They better not know about the real war.
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      In fact, it is better to know, because in the textbooks they write quite a lie. Those who then lure them into these wars ...
  38. Turkir 1 October 2015 11: 45 New
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    I won’t be surprised if they soon show the bill for thousands of raped women in Italy and Switzerland ... by Suvorov’s soldiers.
    All this happens not without the help of "our" fifth column ...
    A massive information attack in order to defame our history and, most importantly, change the historical consciousness of our young children.
    Therefore, comments appear like "Or maybe it was ..." or a reverence for smelly Vikings and a love of SS and Wehrmacht spies.
    They don’t know their history, they know better what form the SA attack aircraft or the SS Standartenfuhrer wore.
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    It is noteworthy that the spelling in the comments, the word "Suvorov" marks as an error! Survived ...
  39. Buffalo 2 October 2015 23: 28 New
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    According to the tradition of ancient Rome, the winners received the captured city for three days. And they did what they wanted there. They took trophies, women, etc.
    Winner Gets Everything - The Winner Takes It All!