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Kerry said that Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"

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The head of American diplomacy, John Kerry, said that "Russia may become the next target of ISIS militants." According to Kerry, this is why Russia "should not take any action against ISIS alone." This statement was made by the US Secretary of State in an interview with the TV channel MSNBC.


Kerry said that Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"


Kerry:
If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.


Kerry says, as they say, with knowledge of the matter ... It is strange that Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called American "coalition."

The US Secretary of State continues:
They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.


And at the end of the "old record":
And as I said, Assad can save all of this (Russia) if he voluntarily gives up power.


Well, not very much like a partnership warning, but of blackmail and a frank threat from Washington.
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 29 September 2015 20: 02 New
    +133
    Kerry says what’s called, competently... It is strange that Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called “coalition”.

    Pretty boy. Pressured, the blackmailer is elderly.
    The Yankees have completely lost their fear - they threaten it in the open.
    And then they will claim that the Buki shot down their planes.
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 29 September 2015 20: 05 New
      +117
      Well, duck igil is their affiliated pro-American company, it is necessary for a long time these hawks, along with igilovtsy, to "wet in the outhouse" !!!
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 29 September 2015 20: 13 New
        +74
        NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan. it was necessary for them to compare the situation with the Soviet troops a little when they were in Afghanistan. Yes. Russia is not as mean as the USA
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 29 September 2015 20: 36 New
          +65
          Russia is not as mean as the USA
          BUT - In war as in war:
          Do not be shy to beat the teeth!
          I hope that Russia will drive rotten igilovskih and jackals teeth in their filthy throats!
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 29 September 2015 20: 51 New
            +105
            Quote: Sterlya
            NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan

            but ochken fell remarkably in Vietnam, there was a whole mattress fall! good
            Quote: Baikonur
            BUT - In war as in war:

            That's for sure!
            1. iConst
              iConst 29 September 2015 20: 56 New
              +45
              Quote: Stroporez
              the whole mattress fall was
              Yeah, including McCain shaking. Since then, the mind has been damaged ...
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 September 2015 21: 11 New
                +28
                Quote: iConst
                Yeah, including McCain shaking. Since then, the mind has been damaged ...

                It was necessary to cut off the Viet Cong's ear for memory, then he would have looked better and did not suffer from shit.
                But, unfortunately, they showed humanism, damn it, forgetting the common truth the best enemy is a dead enemy. good
              2. djqnbdjqnb
                djqnbdjqnb 29 September 2015 21: 35 New
                +15
                As if Kerry himself didn’t fall on his head. Guess ...
                1. lukewarm
                  lukewarm 30 September 2015 15: 08 New
                  +4
                  Neocons, they are so ... winked And with their heads it does not matter, as indeed for all sectarians. And, yes, God marks the assault - the grandmother of Nuland still has a stroke. The doctor prescribed cookies.
              3. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 29 September 2015 22: 15 New
                +27
                Quote: iConst
                Yeah, including McCain shaking. Since then, the mind has been damaged ...

                Today, McCain (!) Said that Obama's GDP outperformed all positions, that the United States, unlike Russia, does not have a clear plan to fight ISIS, other than slurred and useless bombing.

                Hearing McCain (!) Say something good about Russia and GDP - my weak mind is not ready for such a turn ... wassat

                А in place of Obama I am after yesterday "Nights at the Opera" days at the UN would go into a binge for a couple of weeks ...
                1. iConst
                  iConst 29 September 2015 22: 27 New
                  +12
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Hearing McCain (!) Say something good about Russia and GDP - my weak mind is not ready for such a turn ...

                  This is not from acknowledging Putin's merits - he is kicking more seriously to Babam - they do not like losers.
                2. Ajent cho
                  Ajent cho 29 September 2015 22: 48 New
                  +8
                  And in the place of Obama, after yesterday’s “Night at the Opera” day at the UN, I would have gone into binge for a couple of weeks ...
                  For him, Petyunya Valtsman takes off in this field.
                3. demo
                  demo 30 September 2015 06: 33 New
                  +3
                  On a par with Paroshenko?
              4. Ronin62
                Ronin62 30 September 2015 00: 06 New
                +3
                Already four times! recourse
              5. dvg79
                dvg79 1 October 2015 06: 40 New
                0
                And I have long believed that he needed to give the Hero, more than 20 aircraft and an aircraft carrier, he deserved it! laughing
            2. Barakuda
              Barakuda 29 September 2015 21: 40 New
              +32
              But I like this, well done Guys!
              1. Shishiga
                Shishiga 29 September 2015 22: 23 New
                +23

                it's not bad too
                1. Serg 122
                  Serg 122 29 September 2015 23: 16 New
                  +7
                  Russia “should not take any action against ISIS alone”

                  Wow, what a "preoccupied"! Let him worry about his ISIS, now it will not be sweet
                2. Darwin
                  Darwin 30 September 2015 00: 00 New
                  +1
                  It’s not even that it’s not bad, it’s just a song (sorry for the pun) Vysotsky V. S. talent
                3. EvgNik
                  EvgNik 30 September 2015 06: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Shishiga
                  it's not bad too

                  Not bad, but simply better than Vladimir Semenovich no one will write and sing. And Kerry (the name is like that of a parrot), so he went in tra-ta-rara to discuss his statements.
              2. Darwin
                Darwin 29 September 2015 23: 56 New
                +1
                Respect for the video, falcons.
            3. kocclissi
              kocclissi 29 September 2015 22: 39 New
              +19
              Yes, they don’t know what to say ....... simply Putin of their poor as in that joke:
              -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
              A young geography teacher came to the classroom for the first time, where experienced teachers do not stand it. The teacher’s room is waiting for how many minutes she will jump out of there.
              A lesson passed, some thoughtful students went out, a part ran to the library.

              “What did you do with them, Vera Pavlovna?”
              - You warned me that 7-B is difficult, so I first dumbfounded them, and then puzzled me.
              - Like this, tell us more!
              - I went to class and immediately;
              "Hello, !" They already opened their mouths. “Of course, you know what a condom is. But how to pull it on the globe?” It turned out that no one knows what the globe is, they began to rummage through textbooks. And that was the theme of my lesson.
            4. Suhow
              Suhow 29 September 2015 23: 02 New
              0
              hurts ... !!!!!!!!!
            5. UREC
              UREC 29 September 2015 23: 06 New
              +2
              Great song !!! - 100500.
            6. pilot8878
              pilot8878 29 September 2015 23: 09 New
              +2
              Dear Stroporez, thank you for the video!
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 30 September 2015 00: 30 New
                +24
                Quote: pilot8878
                pilot8878

                I have a particularly respectful attitude towards pilots, the devils helped out.
                Over the years, now I can definitely say that on the planet Earth there are no cooler Russian Pilots, the rest are aircraft models! soldier drinks
            7. zeleznijdorojnik
              zeleznijdorojnik 30 September 2015 01: 09 New
              -9
              The video is good, the song is mediocre.
            8. Irkutian
              Irkutian 30 September 2015 12: 02 New
              +3
              The song is a masterpiece, my favorite Anisimov. Yes, he has all the songs are excellent.
            9. Bersaglieri
              Bersaglieri 30 September 2015 16: 36 New
              +2
              Great song and clip to it. Respect to the author!
            10. Bersaglieri
              Bersaglieri 30 September 2015 16: 38 New
              0
              As a modern version of "I'm a Yak-fighter!" V. Vysotsky
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 29 September 2015 20: 56 New
            +25
            Quote: Baikonur
            Do not be shy to beat the teeth!

            According to the Arab press, Russian planes brutally destroyed the "Azerbaijan battalion" from ISIS. destroyed from 120 to 150 people .. bandits.
            1. Buffalo
              Buffalo 29 September 2015 22: 19 New
              +4
              This is not for them to bazaar in Moscow markets!
              In Syria, immediately for this - kerdyk!
            2. vex
              vex 29 September 2015 22: 30 New
              +6
              Their battalions can only kill the defenseless, cruelly mocking the victims. In equal battle, even if with an advantage, they are not warriors. They go to where you can make up for it - if you knew that there was a real war, they would not have slipped into life.
            3. aleks 62 next
              aleks 62 next 30 September 2015 09: 29 New
              +1
              ..... Russian planes brutally destroyed the Azerbaijan Battalion ...

              .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :))))))
              1. demon1978
                demon1978 30 September 2015 10: 59 New
                +1
                Quote: aleks 62 next
                .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :))))))


                It is in a particularly perverse form yes Flying by, they provoked a panic turning into a wave of suicides request crying
              2. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 30 September 2015 11: 00 New
                +1
                Quote: aleks 62 next
                .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :)))))

                I myself would ask those scribblers with pleasure. They probably didn’t shout to the bandits: Hey, get away, now the bonba will collapse here. You’ll hit the head, you’ll be completely dead.
                1. fif21
                  fif21 30 September 2015 15: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  Quote: aleks 62 next .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :)))))

                  Apparently our "heads" walked, and not from 5000 meters bombed on the areas. Fear cowboys MANPADS. Even Kerry is in the know.
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              3. 2С5
                2С5 1 October 2015 10: 12 New
                0
                ... laughing cynically and showing the middle finger lol ... the Frenchmen are destructed gently, with an apology, and the mattress covers are according to the laws of democracy through a trade union meeting ...
            4. lukewarm
              lukewarm 30 September 2015 15: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Hedgehog
              "Azerbaijan battalion"

              If true - terribly happy. Here it is - targeted "help." Neighbors, mother .... These certainly will not come to Russia. And they could.
            5. 2С5
              2С5 1 October 2015 10: 08 New
              0
              ... torso! Ha!
          3. gav6757
            gav6757 30 September 2015 00: 34 New
            +6
            This Kerry is an interesting person,
            even pisses in his eyes, all of God's dew to him !!!
            1. Doctor Savage
              Doctor Savage 2 October 2015 07: 44 New
              0
              Quote: gav6757
              This Kerry is an interesting person,


              Person?
          4. nezabor
            nezabor 30 September 2015 03: 27 New
            +2
            Well, as always, they will give militants MANPADS, and they from them and shmolnut))))
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 29 September 2015 20: 52 New
          +18
          Quote: Sterlya
          NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan.

          They (NATO aircraft) And today, so far, they are not falling. But they fly to bomb the territory of Syria for purposes of self-defense. Moreover, alone, without the participation of Russia. You can shoot down any plane. As it turns out, Kerry has no idea about it, has not yet guessed.
        3. rash12
          rash12 29 September 2015 21: 09 New
          +7
          Well, in my opinion, we also have arrows and needles in use. long ago, the Yankees did not fall.
        4. Kostyar
          Kostyar 29 September 2015 21: 57 New
          +5
          NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan. it was necessary for them to compare the situation with the Soviet troops a little when they were in Afghanistan. Yes. Russia is not as mean as the USA

          And it would be necessary ..................
        5. Suhow
          Suhow 29 September 2015 21: 59 New
          +3
          The Russian Federation is not as vile as the United States, but it’s a pity, I think if the mattress airplanes began to fall in the sky, as they periodically previously suffered losses of the USSR Air Force, then they (striped) WOULD BE MYSELF FOR ANOTHER. they are in the hands of partners as before the stinger and start all over from the beginning) about earlier releases it’s good to try them in real combat conditions and modify them if necessary.
        6. ver_
          ver_ 30 September 2015 04: 52 New
          +2
          ... but in vain, the debt is red by payment and the wedge is knocked out with a wedge ... what you sow, you will reap .., and even more so - you sow the wind - you reap the storm ..
        7. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 September 2015 06: 06 New
          +2
          And as I said, Assad can save (Russia) from all this if he voluntarily renounces power
          Give me the frog (Mowgli) Well, the tiger then broke its mouth in the cartoon, but what happened to Kerry (Tobacco) no one remembers?
      2. iConst
        iConst 29 September 2015 20: 14 New
        +71
        Quote: Sasha 19871987
        it is necessary for a long time to hawk these hawks together with the igilites in the outhouse

        This, perhaps, was a threat - we (pendos) will throw MANPADS to ISIS, if ...

        I am beginning to think that if the United States falls into the ocean with its entire population, then the whole World will breathe a sigh of relief.
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 29 September 2015 20: 19 New
          +4
          Quote: iConst
          I am beginning to think that if the United States falls into the ocean with its entire population, then the whole World will breathe a sigh of relief.

          I wrote about this 3 years ago. Believe not, and preferably with the outskirts. this is a worthless, spoiled nation, and the Poles there, along with Canadians and Australians and British, Baltic. Joke wassat
          1. sssla
            sssla 29 September 2015 22: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: Sterlya
            Joke

            I shook your joke)
        2. figwam
          figwam 29 September 2015 20: 29 New
          +13
          If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.


          They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.

          Just told how the wild west will continue to operate.
          1. iConst
            iConst 29 September 2015 20: 42 New
            +10
            Quote: figvam
            They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.

            Just told how the wild west will continue to operate.

            So modestly about yourself in the third person ... laughing
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 29 September 2015 21: 34 New
            +7
            He told whom he would poison his dog (IG) ...
          3. BMP-2
            BMP-2 29 September 2015 21: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: figvam
            If we do not find options to unite to fight against the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight them alone, guess what will happen?


            It seems to me that Kerry guessed what would happen to ISIS if Russia began to fight alone. All other words are just an attempt to cover up your fear with at least something. hi
          4. ver_
            ver_ 30 September 2015 05: 04 New
            +3
            ... to hell you "get a hand-held MANPADS plane from the ground, and you can bomb from a height - not Afghanistan there, no mountains ..
        3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov 29 September 2015 21: 31 New
          +2
          And if you consider that the stupid and snickering masses will fail, part of the world will breathe not only with relief, but also with joy!
        4. Wolverine
          Wolverine 29 September 2015 22: 00 New
          +1
          World glee is ensured. fellow
        5. izGOI
          izGOI 29 September 2015 23: 58 New
          +3
          Give us a channel named after Stalin! (Between Mexico and Canada)
        6. ver_
          ver_ 30 September 2015 04: 59 New
          +2
          ... the mattress covers are mostly British, mostly immigrants - there is no reason to expect good from this riffraff ...
      3. ty60
        ty60 29 September 2015 20: 35 New
        +7
        A container of Willow in Syria. Lost Turks and Saudis will put in place. We will listen to the comments of blacks on this subject.
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 30 September 2015 08: 27 New
          0
          Something tells me that Willow already exists in Syria.
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 30 September 2015 08: 27 New
          +1
          Something tells me that Willow already exists in Syria.
          1. lukewarm
            lukewarm 30 September 2015 15: 17 New
            0
            Yes, probably there is. Once there are marines. Another thing is that there are no goals suitable for her so far. We did not hear about ISIS aviation
      4. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 29 September 2015 20: 43 New
        +8
        mattresses generally beguiled, threaten in the open.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 29 September 2015 21: 36 New
          +3
          Open threats are a sign of weakness! In everyday life ... whoever can do it silently !!! Who can not, threatens ...
      5. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 29 September 2015 20: 44 New
        +16
        Sasha 19871987
        Well, duck igil is their affiliated pro-American company, it is necessary for a long time these hawks, along with igilovtsy, to "wet in the outhouse" !!!

        Interesting ... somebody reminded KERRI that the legitimate Syrian armed forces have not only MANPADS (more effective than ISIS terrorists) ... but there are other air defense systems (even more effective) ... and that the American eroplanes can also fall if, without the knowledge of Damascus, these planes begin to bomb the sovereign territory of Syria ... and the Yankees continue to insist on the overthrow of Assad ....
        It would be necessary to SVV Lavrov to admonish and say to our "sworn partner" ...
        1. evfrat
          evfrat 29 September 2015 21: 07 New
          +4
          They are already with the knowledge of Damascus, but without permission, bombing government troops in the presence of more effective means of air defense. Just for now, nobody knocks them. Yes, and will not bring down. Because Americans only need this. And Kerry understands this very well ...
        2. Karlovar
          Karlovar 29 September 2015 21: 38 New
          0
          It is enough to quietly put Assad Buki and S-300 ..... I think, in this situation, the Chinese will throw something ....
        3. Evil Elf
          Evil Elf 29 September 2015 22: 01 New
          +1
          Is this a hint that the Stingers and the Javelins against armored personnel carriers and tanks will start to “mistakenly” reset the IS? Well, probably not Lavrov but Shoigu Konanshenkov, but they silently do their job
      6. Kostyar
        Kostyar 29 September 2015 20: 55 New
        +5
        Just Dogs, fear lost !!!
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 29 September 2015 21: 40 New
          +1
          In principle, they have a panic! Threats are the last argument ...
        2. saygon66
          saygon66 29 September 2015 21: 53 New
          +2
          - It’s not they who have lost fear - it’s we who ceased to inspire it!
      7. Wolverine
        Wolverine 29 September 2015 21: 56 New
        +1
        Isil did not try on himself yet a normal high-precision weapon, and we have foolish vacuum bombs.
        1. izGOI
          izGOI 30 September 2015 00: 02 New
          +2
          But "Pinocchio" in Iraq is not noted?
    2. Yars
      Yars 29 September 2015 20: 12 New
      +6
      well, they need to say something after Putin’s speech to show that they still exist and that they are supposedly solving something. Let them talk further, they won’t be left long ......
      1. armata37
        armata37 29 September 2015 20: 21 New
        +4
        After reading your comment, I remembered this: after a fight, they don’t wave their fists.
        In other words: Obama had to speak and he had to do this together with Putin, and not run away from the approach to the press.

        In any case, okay, our President asked not to dramatize ....
    3. i80186
      i80186 29 September 2015 20: 18 New
      +9
      Well, actually, electronic warfare systems also require verification. It was not without reason that they praised them for a whole year. They showed how MANPADS missiles fly past helicopters, but shells burst in the air. But he is a diplomat, he is not a military man, how should he know about this? smile
    4. Asadullah
      Asadullah 29 September 2015 20: 20 New
      +5
      threaten openly.


      They have not ceremonied recently. Unfortunately, Putin is a supporter of clean politics. But "partners" understand only the language of trouble. But we don’t deliver them any special troubles. How do we respond to MANPADS? Are we worried?
      1. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 29 September 2015 20: 52 New
        +3
        put the other MANPADS ...
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 29 September 2015 21: 45 New
          +2
          EWs, Buki, S-300, PTRK, Pinocchio to put .... Hands will then be untied ...
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 29 September 2015 21: 02 New
        +45
        Quote: Asadullah
        They have not ceremonied recently. Unfortunately, Putin is a supporter of clean politics. But "partners" understand only the language of trouble. But we don’t deliver them any special troubles. How do we respond to MANPADS? Are we worried?

        Do you think so?)))
        If you manipulate the events of two or three days before the UN, then the situation can be described as "you to me, I to you" or mutual "Alaverdi" .....
        - The aggravation on the border of Karabakh-worked art and there are more than a dozen dead a couple of days before the assembly, which can be read as a hint of Russian mattresses - "we will make you another hot spot." What is characteristic, neither Aliyev nor Sargsyan made a wide statement on this issue.
        - Just before the very appearance of GDP at the UN General Assembly in Afghanistan, the Taliban took the mountains. Kunduz !!! This is where the mattresses after 11.09.2001/14/XNUMX hawk dry packs on an ongoing basis !!! (XNUMX years!)
        An accident?
        I think no. (interesting is the call of GDP from an unknown person during events at the UN General Assembly -type, everything is as it should, you can press)
        It’s just that Russia is starting to work with US methods. Moreover, not the last kid in the Taliban with the chase Maksud makes a statement that the Taliban do not consider Russia and the countries of the former USSR as the goal of their interests. (The Taliban would have been enough for Afghanistan)
        I think that this card was played in order to make mattresses understand that Russia could seriously affect their "drug business" and increase the number of coffins to America from Afghanistan if there is no progress on the issue in Syria.
        And what if ISIS feeds from the hands of the United States, then why the Taliban can not feed from the hands of .... Well, you understand. Especially considering that in Afghanistan there is a puppet government planted by the United States, which will remain in power only as long as the United States helps it.
        Troubles, they are different, but only teachers are good.
        Considering the vulnerability of the American contingent in Afghanistan, which depends on the provision and evacuation routes, after the Ulyanovsk transit was closed, mattresses do not really need aggravation in Afghanistan, and no one guarantees that it will not happen if Russia does not "blink an eye" and declares that it will support "moderate opposition" in Afghanistan.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 02 New
          +5
          Bravo! For the analysis ...
        2. Havoc
          Havoc 29 September 2015 23: 32 New
          +4
          In principle, the Taliban can be agreed upon under the Taliban drug. business in Afghanistan was destroyed, in principle, to negotiate a position with them - you do not meddle with us, we are with you. Help with weapons, try to make allies.
        3. dckx
          dckx 30 September 2015 07: 08 New
          +1
          If your analysis is correct regarding the situation in Afghanistan, then this is a competent multi-pass solitaire.
      3. ver_
        ver_ 30 September 2015 05: 18 New
        +1
        ... generals with machine guns do not go on the attack ...
    5. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 29 September 2015 20: 24 New
      +2
      Russia will be their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and planes falling from the sky.

      The boy said - the boy must answer for the "bazaar"!
      And in general, indeed, here recently the actions of electronic warfare systems have been painted.
      It's time to check in the present case, and not to fly if our planes fly, as over Georgia!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 September 2015 22: 32 New
        +2
        In Afghanistan, we developed countermeasures to counter portable anti-aircraft missiles, one of them being the Afghan flight style.
        1. ver_
          ver_ 30 September 2015 05: 14 New
          0
          ... what the hell are you comparing a desert-like table with the mountains of Afghanistan ..?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 September 2015 09: 17 New
            0
            Nor can I compare anything, ours in Afghanistan have gained very good experience in countering MANPADS and the mountains have absolutely nothing to do with it.
      2. Shishiga
        Shishiga 29 September 2015 22: 37 New
        0
        Russia will be their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and planes falling from the sky.


        But it’s interesting how our anti-aircraft defense works out for a random flight of a NATO plane, when taking off from the Baltic airfield and landing on it again, over our territory. The countries are small - you can even miss the habits.
      3. 23 region
        23 region 29 September 2015 22: 40 New
        +2
        [quote = Starover_Z] The boy said - the boy must answer for the "bazaar"!
        And in general, indeed, here recently the actions of electronic warfare systems have been painted.
        It's time to check in the present case, and not fly, if our planes fly, as over Georgia! [/quote]
        RIA News. Russian air forces lost seven aircraft during the armed conflict with Georgia, says Russian expert Said Aminov.
        "According to the latest unofficial information, Georgian air defense systems were able to shoot down four Russian aircraft on the first day of the war on August 8 - three Su-25s and one Tu-22M3."
        The loss of these four aircraft was officially confirmed by the Russian General Staff.
        However, as the expert notes with reference to unofficial data, Russia lost three more planes during the conflict: one Su-24MR on August 8, one Su-24M on August 10 or 11 and one Su-25 on August 9, and also, possibly, one Mi -24.

        РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20080911/151180028.html#ixzz3n9r38lrk
        So, how over Georgia is not necessary. Need a lot better.
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    6. Altona
      Altona 29 September 2015 20: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: MainBeam
      Pretty boy. Pressured, the blackmailer is elderly.

      ------------------
      Yes, he’ll get hell, they won’t fall ...
      1. Evil Elf
        Evil Elf 29 September 2015 22: 10 New
        0
        Apparently this old horseradish foot from the fracture lets you know when it fell from the bike)))) So I remembered about the fall))))
    7. max702
      max702 29 September 2015 20: 51 New
      +9
      In general, Kerry should have hinted that in Ukraine, too, planes did not fall until a certain point, but then somehow quickly ended .. As if the “coalition” there did not start the case of aircraft in the most unexpected places, there is experience ..
      1. Buffalo
        Buffalo 29 September 2015 22: 34 New
        0
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Like a Siberian squirrel! laughing
    8. demon1978
      demon1978 29 September 2015 20: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: MainBeam
      The Yankees have completely lost their fear - they threaten in the open


      Well now it’s not the eighties, it’s possible to rake the “Lever” according to the “Patriot”, but how will their “invisibility” and drones feel there (and not only there) ??? !!! what
    9. maiman61
      maiman61 29 September 2015 20: 56 New
      +4
      Kerry officially announced that if Russia is not the sixth United States in Syria, the United States will arm ISIS MANPADS against Russian aircraft! MANPADS will define MANPADS as “their own”, and our aircraft will be “alien” and will shoot down.
      1. figwam
        figwam 29 September 2015 21: 30 New
        +3
        EW systems have been created in Russia allowing aviation to go about their business without being afraid of savages with MANPADS.
      2. dckx
        dckx 30 September 2015 07: 11 New
        +1
        Well, count on the fact that our military analysts did not miss this moment. I think, and really want to believe that our equipment in Syria is ready for such a "turn"
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 30 September 2015 09: 06 New
          +1
          At least on the Ka-52 there is President-S, what can someone tell me about fighter aircraft?
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    10. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 September 2015 21: 20 New
      +7
      Open threats were launched! What is the recognition of the presence of control over the IS by the USA! Where let’s say, there the IG will direct activity! Masks reset! Hde demagogues and mockingbirds from the promised lands? Well, and whose project is this IG ???
    11. Buffalo
      Buffalo 29 September 2015 22: 26 New
      +2
      Let's hope that soon Syria will become the second Vietnam for the United States and its coalition. NO PASARAN! / THEY WILL NOT PASS!
    12. 34 region
      34 region 29 September 2015 22: 55 New
      +2
      Why blackmailer? By saying ISIS we mean the USA. Just warned. The war against ISIS is the war against the United States.
    13. Dilshat
      Dilshat 29 September 2015 23: 00 New
      0
      If you lock it, you can lose immediately and a lot of treasurers. And the dollar will get acquainted with the real bottom.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 29 September 2015 23: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Dilshat
        can be reset immediately and a lot of treasure

        Quote: http://www.vz.ru/economy/2015/7/17/756687.html
        In the total volume of foreign investments in US securities, which amount to $ 6,13 trillion, Russia's share is only 1,1%

        Quote: Dilshat
        And the dollar will get to know the real bottom

        Nope .. unfortunately, it will not work ..
    14. marlin1203
      marlin1203 29 September 2015 23: 14 New
      +1
      Well, where there are "Stingers", there are "Needles" and generally for every tricky American ... there is a device of the domestic defense industry "with a screw" laughing
    15. Darwin
      Darwin 29 September 2015 23: 53 New
      0
      Let there be a beech in the hangar and a plane lying on top and say that the beech is to blame. The lying nation Americans love only money, the rest is foreign to them.
    16. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 30 September 2015 02: 52 New
      0
      If Kerry will speak, and Benka Netanyahu is not enough on the rug at Putin’s feet, then the R-77, the “Shell”, the “Triumph” of the base and the “Favorite” of the APRK “Moscow” will see US-Israeli aircraft falling over Syria.
      They themselves will be beaten down - they will see for themselves.
      Or does Kerry think the base is just like that, against bearded men? We "came to stay." Against self-invasion and Israeli aggression.
    17. little girl15
      little girl15 30 September 2015 07: 27 New
      0
      How to understand this: will mattresses supply MANPADS to militants from ISIS, as Mujahideen of Afghanistan?
    18. Siberia55
      Siberia55 30 September 2015 07: 42 New
      +6
      Do you even understand ...
    19. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 30 September 2015 09: 19 New
      0
      It’s like they fly there themselves ...... maybe some random Buk thread \ accidentally starts \ and accidentally gets into an exceptional plane ... eh? did not think about such a situation, gentlemen exceptional dolbo .... s?
    20. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 30 September 2015 09: 42 New
      0
      let them fear for their planes better, or did he give an indirect hint that ISIS is our "subsidiary"?
    21. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 30 September 2015 10: 04 New
      0
      ....Pretty boy. Pressured, an old blackmailer ....

      ... So it is necessary to use the same coin .... ".... If Russian planes begin to fall, then we do not guarantee a" fall "of American and Co ....." ..... At the same time, our Israeli friends will see " combat use of "S-300 .... And then they somehow all suffer that the S-300 has never been used in battle .... Satisfy your curiosity ... :)))))
    22. lukewarm
      lukewarm 30 September 2015 15: 04 New
      0
      Pts maybe, but ... This will seriously raise the degree of confrontation. Now, although we are fighting, but behind the scenes, indirectly. After such statements, they will either have to fight openly with us, or swallow their own lies. Or ... do not make such statements.
    23. kamikaze
      kamikaze 30 September 2015 18: 59 New
      0
      the clown mattress entered the circus arena
    24. Andrey Petrov47
      Andrey Petrov47 30 September 2015 23: 43 New
      0
      Americans soon and without beech will run into bamboos ...
    25. GSH-18
      GSH-18 1 October 2015 20: 23 New
      0
      The head of American diplomacy John Kerry said that "Russia could be the next target of ISIS militants." According to Kerry, that’s why Russia “should not take any action against ISIS alone”

      And who said that we are alone there fighting IS? We use only our aviation component, and ground-based military operations, as before on Assad’s Syrian army! Yes, plus Iran also helps the loyal Assad opposition.
    26. shershen
      shershen 2 October 2015 09: 49 New
      0
      did he mean that Russia would see people with American MANPADS? Is he threatening us on behalf of the igil?
      Or maybe Kerry will see on TV heaps of dead people with American MANPADS? Pontorez is cheap.
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    28. Persistent
      Persistent 2 October 2015 15: 47 New
      0
      State Department Spokesperson:
      - We are deeply concerned about yesterday’s statements by the Kremlin!
      Journalist:
      - Which ones?
      - Yes, no difference ... laughing
    29. viach
      viach 2 October 2015 19: 41 New
      0
      So what? And let them not fly where it is not necessary!
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 29 September 2015 20: 03 New
    +12
    Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called “coalition”.

    So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way. wink
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 29 September 2015 20: 10 New
      +15
      Quote: Vladimirets
      So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way.


      What kind of "honor" are you talking about? Where honor should be, the USA has grown!
      And so be sure, the Yankees do not hesitate to supply the caliphate with stingers "from the belly."
      Overseas and runs into the establishment of a no-fly zone for them ... so that the ISIS and Stingers do not let us go on the attack.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 September 2015 22: 10 New
        0
        They won’t provide ISIS with the Stingers, the fawn MANPADs hurt, all the more if they are captured by the evidence that the United States will supply ISIS with weapons will be 100%, and you won’t get out there.
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 29 September 2015 20: 16 New
      +7
      Quote: Vladimirets
      So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way.

      I do not think that bearded signs will be considered. In addition, I doubt that the Su-34 was driven there to work as NURSs (as some write here).
      1. maiman61
        maiman61 29 September 2015 21: 04 New
        +1
        Well, how small you are! The aircraft has a friend-or-foe system, if you miss our MANPADS on SU-24, the system will respond “mine” and the missile will not hit the aircraft. And if the USA puts ISIS MANPADS, then the American planes will answer the missiles “their own”, and the Russian MANPADS planes will be recognized as “alien” and will be shot down.
        1. family tree
          family tree 29 September 2015 21: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: maiman61
          if you shmalnut our MANPADS on SU-24

          As far as I remember from my airy guerrilla warfare, this system operates for a short time, capturing a target, request, answer, and only allows you to determine your own or someone else’s, and at the expense of hitting, the person makes a decision, and if he wants, he can make it regardless of the “password” . True, it was not MANPADS, but S-125 SAMs request
        2. GRAY
          GRAY 29 September 2015 21: 27 New
          +7
          Quote: maiman61
          if you take our MANPADS on SU-24, the system will answer “your own” and the missile will not hit the plane.

          The first "Arrow" does not have such a system - shoot anyone you want. The "Needle" is, but is disabled at the touch of a button. Strela-2 seems to have one, but it is also most likely turned off. At the "Stinger" the interrogator on the arrow’s belt is rushing - throw it all the way, and that's the end.
      2. Vasek
        Vasek 29 September 2015 21: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: GRAY
        Su-34 drove there to work Nurses

        With thermobaric charges is desirable.
        In order not to aim for a long time.
    3. SSR
      SSR 29 September 2015 20: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called “coalition”.

      So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way. wink

      I'd love to answer Kerry that
      - you know better, because your planes “bomb” the igil and don’t fall, Hollande’s planes bomb and don’t fall (though they don’t get where you need to) and do you want to explain such a strange relationship?
      In general, this is the highest degree of policy, when there is nothing to cover and they begin to openly threaten.
      I hope our people know about such a pin.dos strategy and ways to level it are provided.
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 16 New
        0
        I wrote above ... Clean gateway !!!
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 30 September 2015 14: 51 New
        0
        Quote: SSR
        I hope our people know about such a pin.dos strategy and ways to level it are provided.

        it is extremely difficult to level it out.
        There are essentially two options:
        1) agree with the Saxons, but then you have to pay the bills and maybe on the other flanks: Ukraine, the Arctic or maybe the Asia-Pacific region ... who knows.
        2) to block the supply of weapons to ISIS, which is almost impossible. You need to have both an extensive espionage network and intelligence in the region, as well as forces that can cut these channels. I know for sure that wherever you spit yes BV, you will surely fall into the Amer spy. About ours not much in the know. Unless the Iranians help, or better, Israel. At the expense of the latter is unlikely.
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 September 2015 20: 03 New
    +31
    It is necessary to put the "Igla" in Afghanistan and there to bang 10-20 NATO aircraft. Unfrightened all become.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 17 New
      0
      Needles there already have a hundred pounds at Dostum ..... For a long time ....
  4. GradusHuK
    GradusHuK 29 September 2015 20: 03 New
    +7
    The radish is openly threatening. It’s not at all afraid of a big tsunami!
  5. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 29 September 2015 20: 06 New
    +6
    There is nothing electronic warfare systems and infrared countermeasures against MANPADS (President-S, Vitebsk, Lever-AB).
  6. morozik
    morozik 29 September 2015 20: 06 New
    +20
    the masks were dropped ... they wanted to fight with us with the hands of Ukrainians, now we will fight with amers with the help of the Syrians and Iranians
    1. uralex
      uralex 29 September 2015 20: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: morozik
      Now we will fight with the amers with the help of the Syrians and Iranians

      Only there is a nuance: Ukraine is on the border of Russia, and between the Americans and the Syrians - the Atlantic Ocean ...

      And as regards the “masks”, now many different “Minsk agreements” will begin to arise under which the Americans will also accuse Russia of their violations, but without intermediaries in the form of Ukraine ...
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 18 New
      0
      Samiim also have to, along the way .... later ...
  7. Dima Čalevo
    Dima Čalevo 29 September 2015 20: 06 New
    +21
    Is it strange, friends, MANPADS just do not appear out of nowhere, or will the image of a mujahideen with a stinger KNOWN from here again appear? And, it seems, Russia has made a decision on airstrikes - too many points to this, including and yesterday’s statements by Putin
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 29 September 2015 20: 39 New
      +2
      The fact is that those same MANPADS are all numbered and are registered under the agreement of the 88 year. This was one of the conditions for our exit from Afghanistan. (Based on the results of using stingers and, a little later, needles.) For the same reason, all MANPADS of our production unexpectedly disappeared from Ukrainian bases two years ago. Under that agreement, any of the parties can at any time check their availability in warehouses (this applies to both amers and us !!!). And if they substitute themselves like that, then civilian air traffic in the world will order a long life, precisely because no people will buy a ticket if they know that they can be killed by a 12 kid for years of age (even such a kid can shoot MANPADS from these generations). And it was for this reason that the Malaysian Boeing could not be attributed to us! I did not shoot MANPADS there !!!
    2. Maks7877
      Maks7877 29 September 2015 20: 55 New
      +3
      The fact that Russia decided on airstrikes was clear as soon as our first plane appeared
  8. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks 29 September 2015 20: 07 New
    +11
    So, you see, and NATO planes will begin to fall. For the Islamists there will not be much difference whose planes to shoot down.
    1. Asadullah
      Asadullah 29 September 2015 20: 15 New
      +13
      So, you see, and NATO planes will begin to fall. There will not be much difference for the Islamistswhose planes to shoot down


      Are you sure that the MANPADS operators will be Islamists? I am far from certain.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 29 September 2015 20: 17 New
      +23
      The Americans radically solved the problems of MANPADS - by banning the reduction below 4000 meters. Recently, the British published their report:
      300 departures
      consumption 93 Brimstone, 212 Hellfire missiles, 244 Paveway IV. The Hells launched from drones, KABs and Brimstones with Tornadoes at the heights of 5000 +.

      Confirmed 303 murders bad guys and their supporting civilians. I.e 1 departure - 1 corpse barely pulled. Efficiency rolls over wassat .

      Therefore, in principle, they are not afraid of MANPADS, since they quietly work with CABs and Missiles at 100-150k dollars for individual broads and their norms.

      Judging by the rooks and Su-24 being transferred to Syria, it is supposed to work with cheap cast irons, NARs and other things, which must be let down to get somewhere. Here MANPADS are quite an effective means.
      1. 0255
        0255 29 September 2015 20: 27 New
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Judging by the rooks and Su-24 being transferred to Syria, it is supposed to work with cheap cast irons, NARs and other things, which must be let down to get somewhere. Here MANPADS are quite an effective means.

        Do you think the Su-24 and Su-25 cannot carry precision guided weapons?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 29 September 2015 20: 37 New
          +2
          They can. The best carriers of guided weapons are the upgraded Su-24, but there the question of the X-23 / 25 rocket cannot be used from above (3 / 4km maxima), plus the qualifications are high (and the closer to the maximum, the higher the qualifications). And newer missiles are expensive (the old ones are dismantled by launch), it will come out like the British Ovod for 20 million rubles - a cart of baboons. Plus if.

          Well, Su-34.

          At Su-30СМ everything rests against the missing container, it is blind on the ground.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 29 September 2015 20: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: donavi49
            but there the question in the X-23/25 rocket from a height cannot be used (maxima 3 / 4km)

            I don’t know what the height of the missiles is, but in this case the CAB is cheaper and more practical.
            The distance to the target is 10 km., Height 5 km. - dropped the bomb and went on a U-turn.
            MANPADS will not be useful to anyone.
          2. shans2
            shans2 29 September 2015 21: 26 New
            +2
            Su-30SM is universal. It works on land, water and air, therefore they were sent to the Crimea for basing ...
          3. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 29 September 2015 21: 54 New
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            will come out like the English Gadfly for 20 million rubles - a cart of baboons.

            For this, there are aviation ATGMs: “Sturm-V”, “Attack-V”, “Whirlwind”, “Threat”, this applies to ATGMs of the second generation standing in service, as for ATGMs of the 3rd generation, which increased range 15-20 kilometers of "Hermes-A", and guidance seems to be carried out from a drone.
            Hermes ground launchers are capable of hitting enemy armored vehicles and cannons at distances of up to 100 kilometers, as I understood, guidance is also carried out from an unmanned aerial vehicle.
          4. silver_roman
            silver_roman 30 September 2015 14: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: donavi49
            At Su-30СМ everything rests against the missing container, it is blind on the ground.

            not properly. it works on the ground and without a container.
            Su-30SM - the same Su-30MKI. The latter is beautiful and carries RCC, both on the ground and in the air. In short wagons.
          5. gray
            gray 30 September 2015 20: 47 New
            0
            In Afghanistan, the Su-24 was used and more than one aircraft was not lost. Not counting: “December 18, 1988 - the Su-24. The plane, returning from combat sortie, landed at the Karshi airfield (Uzbekistan) and caught fire. 1 crew member died. "They also used high-precision weapons.
      2. GRAY
        GRAY 29 September 2015 20: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: donavi49
        Therefore, in principle, they are not afraid of MANPADS, since they quietly work with KABs and Rocket for $ 100-150k for single women and norms.

        We also have QABs and missiles, why do you think that they will not be used?
        Therefore, in principle, they are not afraid of MANPADS

        Still, they are not directly involved in supporting ground forces.
        1. andj61
          andj61 29 September 2015 20: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: GRAY
          Do you think the Su-24 and Su-25 cannot carry precision guided weapons?

          Quote: GRAY
          We also have QABs and missiles, why do you think that they will not be used?

          And we have precision weapons, etc., but against whom to use it? Against the "carts"?
          Then the effectiveness of aviation will be, like the United States.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 29 September 2015 20: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: andj61
            And we have precision weapons, etc., but against whom to use it? Against the "carts"?

            Against fortifications and strong points of the enemy. IS is holding onto settlements, not naked desert.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 29 September 2015 20: 44 New
          +3
          I wrote above. Plus to the above, also as a central office and control. Westerners use containers and drones that give an excellent picture on 20-25km, which you can work on. The Air Force only dreams of this, domestic containers only in mock-ups and limited experimental products. The basic tool is not to highlight, but to shoot by type - like a babahi = oh holiday. So very quickly the media will start hysteria. This is not the Saudis, who won a bomb on a neutral tribe, on 130 + corpses and under 200 wounded. And all the rules, well, they were mistaken, the Saudis did not even apologize.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 29 September 2015 21: 08 New
            +7
            Quote: donavi49
            Westerners use containers and drones,

            And what else remains for them? The Syrian army does not give them target designation.
            Our drones have been flying there for a long time and digital maps of the area are also ready for a long time.
    3. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 22 New
      0
      Moreover, as experience shows, Islamists are different ...
  9. vovanpain
    vovanpain 29 September 2015 20: 08 New
    +19
    This is the exceptional answer to Putin’s speech at the UN yesterday, now there are threats, it’s just some kind of kindergarten, if you don’t play with my scoop you will have more. The answer will torment the old with the black monkey.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 27 New
      +1
      Indeed, the primitiveness of their reaction is surprising! Which, incidentally, indicates the absence of an adequate, dignified answer ... They were blown away, so they just dropped to open threats !!!
  10. nikcris
    nikcris 29 September 2015 20: 08 New
    +7
    I have a seditious thought. Well, well, this ISIS. There are safer. Which ISIS and nurtured.
    1. Tjeck
      Tjeck 29 September 2015 21: 42 New
      +3
      certainly we shall, but then ... and it’s better to introduce some sort of Trotsky to the glory of the world revolution.
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 September 2015 22: 28 New
      0
      There’s a complex nuclear arsenal ...
  11. ssn18
    ssn18 29 September 2015 20: 10 New
    +6
    Comrades! Who is more advanced in knowledge of the Kerry language and having a “walker” (communication channel) with him. Unsubscribe to this mummy that you do not need to teach RUSSIA yourself with a mustache. Better put things in order. The coffin was already exposed from a certain hole.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 29 September 2015 21: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: ssn18
      Comrades! Who is more advanced in knowledge of the Kerry language and having a “walker” (communication channel) with him. Unsubscribe to this mummy that you do not need to teach RUSSIA yourself with a mustache. Better put things in order. The coffin was already exposed from a certain hole.


      Don’t worry about bullying ... Madonna with cookies overcame a stroke .. she’s paralyzed, so this remains a little tense .. Syria will finish him ...
  12. fzr1000
    fzr1000 29 September 2015 20: 11 New
    +5
    Well, Russia has never heard of people with MANPADS. Thank you for helping Mr. Comrade Kerry.
  13. SALLAK
    SALLAK 29 September 2015 20: 12 New
    +5
    This US leadership resembles children in a sandbox ... Soon they will fight in hysteria and stomp their legs ...
  14. Aleksey888
    Aleksey888 29 September 2015 20: 14 New
    +9
    That is, it has been openly said that America will supply the MANPADS igil. So it was in Afghanistan.
  15. rus-5819
    rus-5819 29 September 2015 20: 15 New
    +19
    Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.

    But it’s interesting whose Is it the falling planes that Russia will see?
    1. Vincent
      Vincent 29 September 2015 20: 20 New
      +3
      good Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
  16. Grbear
    Grbear 29 September 2015 20: 16 New
    +7
    If we do not find options to unite to fight against the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight them alone,

    This is no longer diplomacy. This is a non-diplomatic hysteria. Russia already there will not be one, but such statements will only increase the circle of understanding people. Have you been offered a way out with a "whole" face? I do not want? I would not have to catch up with the engine. fool

    hi
    1. Rader
      Rader 29 September 2015 20: 50 New
      +10
      Listen, here I read the news and understand that Lavrov is a true diplomat, with titanium patience. If I were in Lavrov’s place, at the first meeting, after such words, Keri would have seen his teeth fall, and after them his carcass ...
      He threatens to yell ... am
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 29 September 2015 21: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: Rader
        He threatens to yell ...


        quote Lavrov completely do not take words out of context .. laughing
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 29 September 2015 21: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          quote Lavrov do not completely take words out of context.

          Censorship however ..... This is not for you. UN. stop
          1. Rader
            Rader 29 September 2015 22: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            Quote: Rader
            He threatens to yell ...


            quote Lavrov completely do not take words out of context .. laughing

            So they will ban ... laughing
            Quote: Allex28
            Quote: vorobey
            quote Lavrov do not completely take words out of context.

            Censorship however ..... This is not for you. UN. stop

            That's for sure ... Our moderators are not some kind of Ban Gimun lol
  17. narval20
    narval20 29 September 2015 20: 17 New
    +3
    Afraid that we can do without them?
    1. 0255
      0255 29 September 2015 20: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: narval20
      Afraid that we can do without them?

      He is afraid to lose his brainchild, so much dough swelled into him
  18. gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 29 September 2015 20: 17 New
    +1
    Impact drones are needed, we are looking at this war for 5 years, and the country's leadership has not created the necessary conclusions.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 September 2015 20: 23 New
      +7
      It is quite possible that we will see “falling” airplanes, but if you do not stop now ISIS, Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda in Syria and Iraq, these terrorists, with the support of the USA and Israel, will come to our “house” and then there will be much more victims among us.
      It is the destruction or at least the weakening of our country that is the main goal of the bandits armed and trained by the CIA and Mossad.
  19. Vincent
    Vincent 29 September 2015 20: 18 New
    +8
    The United States may see partisans with cornets and burning abrams right now in Yemen. And the vaunted Patriot does not save much from the 9K79-1 missiles falling on the head of the royal rati. So let them worry about the ass of their allies first. And Allah will help us overcome the Igil air defense, tea is not the 70th year in the yard.
    1. 0255
      0255 29 September 2015 20: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Vincent
      The United States may see partisans with cornets and burning abrams right now in Yemen.

      I think the US has seen enough of burning abrashek back in Iraq 10 years ago laughing
      1. Vincent
        Vincent 29 September 2015 23: 34 New
        0
        "There is no loss" (C) wink
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 29 September 2015 20: 25 New
      +17
      The Hussites there had 2,5 smuggled Sudanese or Iranian Cornets and they didn’t use them very well.

      Métis, Contests - here are their breadcrumbs, beating abrashek and M-60. Recently, a column was burned there on a departure from Al Khobh (Saudi territory). Among the ten Oshkoshes, cobras and M113 with additional armor, there was a whole brigadier general (3 stars) Ibrahim Hamzi, well, Abrashka also could not overcome the Yugoslav Osa.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 51 New
        0
        Nice to hear such good news :)
        1. Vincent
          Vincent 30 September 2015 06: 28 New
          0
          https://youtu.be/yR8bX7rGrbY
      2. Vincent
        Vincent 30 September 2015 06: 51 New
        0
        The General
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ppTIcSptQ0
    3. shans2
      shans2 29 September 2015 21: 34 New
      0
      he doesn’t have time to react, the maximum flight time of the Tochka U missile for 120 km is only 130 seconds or so ..... and the missile must be detected, for a total of 30 seconds ... the patriot sucks in such conditions.
  20. 0255
    0255 29 September 2015 20: 22 New
    +5
    Quote: Kerry
    They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.

    But they don’t denigrate Russia like now, and they don’t denigrate Russia to Crimea either ...
  21. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 September 2015 20: 23 New
    +6
    "... Russia" should not take any action against ISIS alone. "
    Yeah. And under the "wise" leadership syshya. For only this can be read. Itch!
  22. NDR-791
    NDR-791 29 September 2015 20: 23 New
    0
    “Russia should not take any action against ISIS alone”
    So we were kind of alone and were not going to. And Putin, not only at the UN, but at a meeting with his grandmother, tried to convey this idea to ... But what can you do if Carey, as a representative of the oligarchy (US military-industrial complex), while not being president, defends the interests of her clan (including the party) and the institution of presidency, which was originally intended to balance the interests of industrial and financial clans in the United States, cracked the departure of Bush the Elder (he was the last who, as the director of the CIA, really knew about undercurrents), now this is clearly visible. And the brawl for the presidency in the United States began, but it began, it turns out, at our expense !!!
    1. ty60
      ty60 29 September 2015 20: 53 New
      +1
      It will not work. RSZOshny gifts of the stingers are not afraid. Yes, and not the only option ...
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 50 New
      0
      I think it was meant that the Yankees Iran, Iraq and Syria, in principle, do not perceive force.
  23. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 29 September 2015 20: 24 New
    +1
    The entire policy of the SGA is based on blackmail, bribery and meanness! Their "exclusivity" will soon exclude them from the society of decent countries, and from them and their pack of jackets the threat not only of Russia, but also of other countries that have joined it and those who are ready to defend their sovereignty from the Western "shit democracy"! These statements by Kerry already show their progressive weakness, though not yet clearly visible to everyone, and the fact that in the case of ISIS they drove themselves into a corner and now snarl like that wolf in Krylov’s fable! With its distinct political position, Russia can actually lead the international protest movement against the self-interest of the SGA! hi
  24. gelezo47
    gelezo47 29 September 2015 20: 25 New
    +1
    The mattresses are in their repertoire. No coalition will be with them. And they will interfere with us in every way in the fight against ISIS. By supplying terrorists with weapons and trying to draw our country into the war in the Middle East.
    In my opinion, a coalition with Iran, Iraq and Syria is a good option. And if China joins this, then there will be an optimal ... soldier
  25. dsi
    dsi 29 September 2015 20: 25 New
    +2
    and Russia will fight them alone, guess what will happen?

    And the Syrian army, has he already taken over?
  26. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 29 September 2015 20: 26 New
    +3
    Here is a seer! It turns out that if Russia begins to fight with Isil, then they will not darn and run away, but it turns out then they will choose Russia as a target, and even planes can begin to fall! Straight all their ideas on before predicted all of a sudden!
    Or maybe someone will get a cunning gray-haired face or a black asshole ?!
  27. SAM 5
    SAM 5 29 September 2015 20: 29 New
    +2
    It is strange that Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called American “coalition”.

    + stopitsot and nothing to add.
  28. Chisxnumxdiman
    Chisxnumxdiman 29 September 2015 20: 30 New
    +3
    Their Hercules with weapons may not reach a moderate opposition in this case.
  29. igor67
    igor67 29 September 2015 20: 30 New
    +10
    The first MANPADS were handed over to the Syrian opposition in 2012 in the amount of 40 pieces, then Saudi annually delivered, plus they didn’t take them in warehouses, so the NATO bombers from a great height not accessible to the MANPADS and from Jordan and Turkey, but Russian planes will have to take off from the territory of Syria, this is probably what Kerry meant, take off and gain altitude probably towards the sea,
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 September 2015 21: 11 New
      +1
      These MANPADS are also numbering interesting?
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 September 2015 21: 11 New
      0
      These MANPADS are also numbering interesting?
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 43 New
        0
        I am sure that yes. Like any military equipment, it should be marked to track the chain of contact in the wrong hands if used in the wrong place. Otherwise, they will disappear in hundreds, stealing from warehouses not only with us.
    3. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 46 New
      0
      As I understand it, the Su-24-25, in principle, operate from not very high altitudes and are therefore vulnerable to MANPADS by definition. Judging by the losses in Georgia, again.
  30. am808s
    am808s 29 September 2015 20: 30 New
    +2
    American "Gulchatay" opened his face!
  31. roskot
    roskot 29 September 2015 20: 31 New
    +10
    And we have our own answer Kerry.
  32. armata37
    armata37 29 September 2015 20: 31 New
    +1
    If we do not find options to unite to fight against the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight them alone, guess what will happen?


    1. If Mr. Kerry you think that we are nowhere without you, then you are deeply mistaken. We can without you.
    2. We (Russia) are no longer alone in the fight against ISIS. There are Syrians who have been fighting for several years.
    3. We will not swing our (our domestic) history. It’s not worth relying on it, and we know that. But you, Kerry, still read it to understand what if Russia will fight with someone alone.
  33. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 29 September 2015 20: 32 New
    +2
    Not sts, Old Kerry! Russia will not be the only one to peck your fosterlings! We already have a coalition with Iran, Iraq and Seria, and there is also China watching you sign!
  34. Leeder
    Leeder 29 September 2015 20: 32 New
    +2
    In this case, who is flying without their permission from Syria in their airspace?
    I think they can be shot down, as the country's airspace was violated by military aircraft!
    S-300 will not be allowed to deliver Syria, but they’ll keep track of the MANPADS!
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 29 September 2015 21: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: LeeDer
      S-300 will not allow Syria to be delivered

      Well, why? The first - DO NOT GIVE GOD! - a Russian plane shot down in Syria will untie our hands! And let anyone try to object! am
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 39 New
      +1
      Why won't the S-300 be delivered? Our ships have already made dozens of walkers by ships, was it really impossible to drag a couple of batteries quietly? Moreover, judging by their publications, they discover each of our tank and aircraft in Syria with surprise, which means they are fucking watched.
  35. BOB044
    BOB044 29 September 2015 20: 34 New
    +4


    Kerry:
    If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.
    Tell me honestly, and you MANPADS to deliver mattresses to them. Horseradish is old.
  36. samarin1969
    samarin1969 29 September 2015 20: 34 New
    +2
    A year ago, it would seem nonsense to hear Lavrov’s “concern” about the absence of a Ukrainian amnesty for the DNI fighters and Kerry’s “concern” about the insufficient protection of the Russian attack aircraft ...
  37. Basil_3
    Basil_3 29 September 2015 20: 38 New
    +1
    He forgot to add that this is due to the supply of the latest weapons from the USA to ISIS))))))
  38. boroda64
    boroda64 29 September 2015 20: 41 New
    -1
    ..
    - assured - maybe
    - assured - this is faith
    - and not persuasion ....
    / these are two big differences /
  39. sabakina
    sabakina 29 September 2015 20: 45 New
    +2
    Kerry said that Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"

    Well, yes, yes ...
    -And where is the body?
    -Here is the body ...
    (c) film "Heavenly Slow-moving"
    I went to the censor. I’ve read hair on end! If the ancient Ukrainians arrested ships in Sivash, then what to expect from the exceptional?
    1. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 29 September 2015 21: 20 New
      +1
      ... deputy chairman of the interdepartmental group of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on compensation for losses caused by temporary occupation of part of the territory of Ukraine ...

      Forgive me ?! belay lol
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 35 New
      0
      I wonder what they hold them on, on air mattresses? Or do they have a couple of boats in the storeroom left, along with a couple of Su-24s not yet shot down?
  40. Sega66
    Sega66 29 September 2015 20: 47 New
    +1
    If our military is very offended and preoccupied, then the no-fly zone can be arranged not only over Syria ...
    There are all kinds of Dutch heights ...
    1. iConst
      iConst 29 September 2015 20: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: Sega66
      Goalлenдall sorts of heights ...

      Holland what is wrong? smile
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 29 September 2015 21: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: iConst
        Gollandiya what is wrong?
        laughing Nevermind! Well, a slip of the tongue - confused Holland with Golan wink It happens in the park!
        1. Sega66
          Sega66 29 September 2015 21: 15 New
          +1
          computer technology "mistake" corrected, did not pay attention.
          1. Rokossovsky
            Rokossovsky 29 September 2015 23: 06 New
            +6
            computer technology "mistake" fixed, did not pay attention

            Ah mistakes, mistakes ... laughing
            1. Mikhail Krapivin
              Mikhail Krapivin 30 September 2015 04: 31 New
              +1
              I really liked the Netherlands, neighing like a horse :), thanks
  41. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 29 September 2015 20: 53 New
    0
    Quote: iConst
    Quote: Sasha 19871987
    it is necessary for a long time to hawk these hawks together with the igilites in the outhouse

    This, perhaps, was a threat - we (pendos) will throw MANPADS to ISIS, if ...

    I am beginning to think that if the United States falls into the ocean with its entire population, then the whole World will breathe a sigh of relief.


    -Myku, you smell, the Russians flew into space!
    -So, mustache?

    Why in the ocean? Let the hosts go to hell with the hangers-on. We will customize trampolines. By God, I’m not sorry. Neither trampolines nor THESE.
  42. voronbel53
    voronbel53 29 September 2015 20: 53 New
    +3
    If Russia does not find options for unification with the Abama coalition and alone carries the fight against ISIS, then, according to Kerry, it will become a target for Islamist MANPADS. In other words, it does not offer unification, but an ordinary "roof" and requires submission and dividends in the form of alienation of Assad from Syria. Well, then everything is on the list, in case of failure to fulfill the conditions proposed by the "godfather". In my opinion, the diplomacy of the Americans has reached the heights or, conversely, has dropped to the level of a gang-watering can. What kind of affairs can Russia have with such a government and what kind of entry can this gangster association have? Moreover, Russia is not alone, but in a coalition with countries that really want to fight ISIS and who have more chances to win than Americans with their rotten policies ...
  43. zlideny
    zlideny 29 September 2015 20: 53 New
    +2
    DOGS ARE SAWING AND THE CARAVAN IS GOING. TIME WILL SHOW WHICH PLANES WILL FALL.
    1. Wils
      Wils 29 September 2015 21: 39 New
      -3
      Whose will be there and will fall.
  44. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 29 September 2015 20: 55 New
    +3
    "Do not touch our terrorists, otherwise we will set them on you." lol
  45. avia1991
    avia1991 29 September 2015 20: 58 New
    +2
    It is very similar not to a partner warning, but to blackmail and an outright threat from Washington.
    As Putin politely put it in an interview with an American journalist, "Kerry HITRI-IT! He is a diplomat, and it's his job to cheat ..."
    Well, we do not need these tales: we WELL REMEMBER WHO armed the "spirits" in Afghanistan with the "Stingers"! And if now freshly man-made MANPADS appear at the IS, their origin will be clear to any child! am
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 29 September 2015 21: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: avia1991
      It is very similar not to a partner warning, but to blackmail and an outright threat from Washington.

      I wish Sergey health hi! A little adjustment. Kerry said that Russia can see its own in Syria i.e. USA falling planes.
      .
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 29 September 2015 23: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Nikoha.2010
        Kerry said that Russia can see its own in Syria i.e. USA falling planes.

        Greetings, namesake! hi
        Perhaps Kerry just made a slip of the tongue - from the same series as "but then we have the fastest deer!" laughing
        But seriously - this is, in fact, a very poorly concealed threat to us: "We will not only not cooperate with you - we will also take advantage of the moment to do more for you!"
        They very much hope that Russia will directly participate in the database .. but there, in Syria, this, in my opinion, is not worth doing - here I agree with Putin! .. I hope his intentions in this matter correspond to his words.
  46. Olegater
    Olegater 29 September 2015 20: 58 New
    +2
    In T.V.A.R.I. - they themselves created terrorists, they feed and set them on, and if someone stands up for ASADA and crushes the jackals and sixes of the p. d. sorry sorry !!!!!!)
  47. Stinger
    Stinger 29 September 2015 20: 59 New
    +1
    Judging by the statements of the US State Department and the French Foreign Ministry, these stubborn "peacekeepers" were offended by Putin. One started to scare, and the other tries to drag Russia into its adventure (“If Russia opposes terrorists, then striking at them is perfectly normal,” the Foreign Minister believes. “The international community strikes at Daesh (Arabic name IS), France strikes, but Russia does nothing. ”As the German General Stirlitz said: These idiots think that war can be won by bombing alone.
    1. iConst
      iConst 29 September 2015 21: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Stinger
      fishing according to the statements of the US State Department and the French Foreign Ministry, these stubborn "peacekeepers" were offended by Putin.
      - I think they were not offended, but simply at a loss. They are disoriented - Russia succeeds, but they all get out of some sort of crap.

      No matter how they burst into tears ... laughing
  48. iouris
    iouris 29 September 2015 21: 00 New
    +1
    You, John, run into rudeness. Teach your spiders.
  49. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 29 September 2015 21: 00 New
    +3
    Is this something new? Stingers Mujahideen in Afghanistan also supplied mattresses
  50. SCHNIFER
    SCHNIFER 29 September 2015 21: 00 New
    +3
    For some reason, Kerry kept silence that if he didn’t burn out with MANPADS, then the Ishilovites would sit at the controls of the Raptor
    1. Wils
      Wils 29 September 2015 21: 37 New
      -4
      and they say -We bought the Raptor in the military? what is the problem ?
      1. Sartorius
        Sartorius 1 October 2015 07: 00 New
        +1
        In order to learn how to fly on a raptor and on any other modern airplane, you need a lot of time and some brains. to transfer a modern airplane to the hands of fanatics is, to say the least, nonsense. Our only thanks would have said such an opportunity to dig into the wreckage of this bird.