Kerry said Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"

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The head of American diplomacy, John Kerry, said that "Russia may become the next target of ISIS militants." According to Kerry, this is why Russia "should not take any action against ISIS alone." This statement was made by the US Secretary of State in an interview with the TV channel MSNBC.

Kerry said Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"


Kerry:
If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.


Kerry says, as they say, with knowledge of the matter ... It is strange that Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called American "coalition."

The US Secretary of State continues:
They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.


And at the end of the "old record":
And as I said, Assad can save all of this (Russia) if he voluntarily gives up power.


Well, not very much like a partnership warning, but of blackmail and a frank threat from Washington.
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  1. +133
    29 September 2015 20: 02
    Kerry says what’s called, competently... It is strange that Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called “coalition”.

    Pretty boy. Pressured, the blackmailer is elderly.
    The Yankees have completely lost their fear - they threaten it in the open.
    And then they will claim that the Buki shot down their planes.
    1. +117
      29 September 2015 20: 05
      Well, duck ISIS is their subsidiary pro-American company, it is necessary for a long time these hawks, together with ISIS members, "soak in toilets" !!!
      1. +74
        29 September 2015 20: 13
        NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan. it was necessary for them to compare the situation with the Soviet troops a little when they were in Afghanistan. Yes. Russia is not as mean as the USA
        1. +65
          29 September 2015 20: 36
          Russia is not as mean as the USA
          BUT - In war as in war:
          Do not be shy to beat the teeth!
          I hope that Russia will drive rotten igilovskih and jackals teeth in their filthy throats!
          1. +105
            29 September 2015 20: 51
            Quote: Sterlya
            NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan

            but ochken fell remarkably in Vietnam, there was a whole mattress fall! good
            Quote: Baikonur
            BUT - In war as in war:

            That's for sure!
            1. +45
              29 September 2015 20: 56
              Quote: Stroporez
              the whole mattress fall was
              Yeah, including McCain shaking. Since then, the mind has been damaged ...
              1. +28
                29 September 2015 21: 11
                Quote: iConst
                Yeah, including McCain shaking. Since then, the mind has been damaged ...

                It was necessary to cut off the Viet Cong's ear for memory, then he would have looked better and did not suffer from shit.
                But, unfortunately, they showed humanism, damn it, forgetting the common truth the best enemy is a dead enemy. good
              2. +15
                29 September 2015 21: 35
                As if Kerry himself didn’t fall on his head. Guess ...
                1. +4
                  30 September 2015 15: 08
                  Neocons, they are so ... winked And with their heads it does not matter, as indeed for all sectarians. And, yes, God marks the assault - the grandmother of Nuland still has a stroke. The doctor prescribed cookies.
              3. +27
                29 September 2015 22: 15
                Quote: iConst
                Yeah, including McCain shaking. Since then, the mind has been damaged ...

                Today, McCain (!) Said that Obama's GDP outperformed all positions, that the United States, unlike Russia, does not have a clear plan to fight ISIS, other than slurred and useless bombing.

                Hearing McCain (!) Say something good about Russia and GDP - my weak mind is not ready for such a turn ... wassat

                А in place of Obama I am after yesterday "Nights at the Opera" days at the UN would go into a binge for a couple of weeks ...
                1. +12
                  29 September 2015 22: 27
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Hearing McCain (!) Say something good about Russia and GDP - my weak mind is not ready for such a turn ...

                  This is not from acknowledging Putin's merits - he is kicking more seriously to Babam - they do not like losers.
                2. +8
                  29 September 2015 22: 48
                  And in Obama's place, after yesterday's "Night at the Opera" day at the UN, I would have gone into a binge for a couple of weeks ...
                  For him, Petyunya Valtsman takes off in this field.
                3. +3
                  30 September 2015 06: 33
                  On a par with Paroshenko?
              4. +3
                30 September 2015 00: 06
                Already four times! recourse
              5. 0
                1 October 2015 06: 40
                And I have long believed that he needed to give the Hero, more than 20 aircraft and an aircraft carrier, he deserved it! laughing
            2. +32
              29 September 2015 21: 40
              But I like this, well done Guys!
              1. +23
                29 September 2015 22: 23

                it's not bad too
                1. +7
                  29 September 2015 23: 16
                  Russia “should not take any action against ISIS alone”

                  What a "preoccupied" one! Let him worry about his ISIS, it won't be sweet now
                2. +1
                  30 September 2015 00: 00
                  It’s not even that it’s not bad, it’s just a song (sorry for the pun) Vysotsky V. S. talent
                3. +1
                  30 September 2015 06: 32
                  Quote: Shishiga
                  it's not bad too

                  Not bad, but simply better than Vladimir Semenovich no one will write and sing. And Kerry (the name is like that of a parrot), so he went in tra-ta-rara to discuss his statements.
              2. +1
                29 September 2015 23: 56
                Respect for the video, falcons.
            3. +19
              29 September 2015 22: 39
              Yes, they don’t know what to say ....... simply Putin of their poor as in that joke:
              -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
              A young geography teacher came to the classroom for the first time, where experienced teachers do not stand it. The teacher’s room is waiting for how many minutes she will jump out of there.
              A lesson passed, some thoughtful students went out, a part ran to the library.

              “What did you do with them, Vera Pavlovna?”
              - You warned me that 7-B is difficult, so I first dumbfounded them, and then puzzled me.
              - Like this, tell us more!
              - I went to class and immediately;
              "Hello, !" They opened their mouths. "You, of course, know what a condom is. But how to put it on the globe?" It turned out that no one knows what a globe is, they began to rummage in textbooks. And that was the topic of my lesson.
            4. 0
              29 September 2015 23: 02
              hurts ... !!!!!!!!!
            5. +2
              29 September 2015 23: 06
              Great song !!! - 100500.
            6. +2
              29 September 2015 23: 09
              Dear Stroporez, thank you for the video!
              1. +24
                30 September 2015 00: 30
                Quote: pilot8878
                pilot8878

                I have a particularly respectful attitude towards pilots, the devils helped out.
                Over the years, now I can definitely say that on the planet Earth there are no cooler Russian Pilots, the rest are aircraft models! soldier drinks
            7. -9
              30 September 2015 01: 09
              The video is good, the song is mediocre.
            8. +3
              30 September 2015 12: 02
              The song is a masterpiece, my favorite Anisimov. Yes, he has all the songs are excellent.
            9. +2
              30 September 2015 16: 36
              Great song and clip to it. Respect to the author!
            10. 0
              30 September 2015 16: 38
              As a modern version of "I am a Yak fighter!" V. Vysotsky
          2. +25
            29 September 2015 20: 56
            Quote: Baikonur
            Do not be shy to beat the teeth!

            According to the Arab press, Russian planes brutally destroyed the "Azerbaijani battalion" from the ISIS troops. destroyed from 120 to 150 people .. bandits.
            1. +4
              29 September 2015 22: 19
              This is not for them to bazaar in Moscow markets!
              In Syria, immediately for this - kerdyk!
            2. vex
              +6
              29 September 2015 22: 30
              Their battalions can only kill the defenseless, cruelly mocking the victims. In equal battle, even if with an advantage, they are not warriors. They go to where you can make up for it - if you knew that there was a real war, they would not have slipped into life.
            3. +1
              30 September 2015 09: 29
              ..... Russian planes brutally destroyed the "Azerbaijani battalion" ...

              .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :))))))
              1. +1
                30 September 2015 10: 59
                Quote: aleks 62 next
                .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :))))))


                It is in a particularly perverse form Yes Flying by, they provoked a panic turning into a wave of suicides request crying
              2. +1
                30 September 2015 11: 00
                Quote: aleks 62 next
                .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :)))))

                I myself would ask those scribblers with pleasure. They probably didn’t shout to the bandits: Hey, get away, now the bonba will collapse here. You’ll hit the head, you’ll be completely dead.
                1. 0
                  30 September 2015 15: 22
                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  Quote: aleks 62 next .... With cruelty ..... It's like ???? .... :)))))

                  Apparently our "heads" went, and not from 5000 meters bombed across the squares. The cowboys are afraid of MANPADS. Even Kerry knows.
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              3. 0
                1 October 2015 10: 12
                ... laughing cynically and showing the middle finger lol ... the Frenchmen are destructed gently, with an apology, and the mattress covers are according to the laws of democracy through a trade union meeting ...
            4. +2
              30 September 2015 15: 13
              Quote: Hedgehog
              "Azerbaijan battalion"

              If it's true, I'm terribly happy. Here it is - targeted "help". Neighbors, mother .... These certainly won't come to Russia. But they could.
            5. 0
              1 October 2015 10: 08
              ... torso! Ha!
          3. +6
            30 September 2015 00: 34
            This Kerry is an interesting person,
            even pisses in his eyes, all of God's dew to him !!!
            1. 0
              2 October 2015 07: 44
              Quote: gav6757
              This Kerry is an interesting person,


              Person?
          4. +2
            30 September 2015 03: 27
            Well, as always, they will give militants MANPADS, and they from them and shmolnut))))
        2. +18
          29 September 2015 20: 52
          Quote: Sterlya
          NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan.

          They (NATO aircraft) And today, so far, they are not falling. But they fly to bomb the territory of Syria for purposes of self-defense. Moreover, alone, without the participation of Russia. You can shoot down any plane. As it turns out, Kerry has no idea about it, has not yet guessed.
        3. +7
          29 September 2015 21: 09
          Well, in my opinion, we also have arrows and needles in use. long ago, the Yankees did not fall.
        4. +5
          29 September 2015 21: 57
          NATO planes did not fall over Afghanistan. it was necessary for them to compare the situation with the Soviet troops a little when they were in Afghanistan. Yes. Russia is not as mean as the USA

          And it would be necessary ..................
        5. +3
          29 September 2015 21: 59
          The Russian Federation is not as vile as the United States, but it’s a pity, I think if the mattress airplanes began to fall in the sky, as they periodically previously suffered losses of the USSR Air Force, then they (striped) WOULD BE MYSELF FOR ANOTHER. they are in the hands of partners as before the stinger and start all over from the beginning) about earlier releases it’s good to try them in real combat conditions and modify them if necessary.
        6. +2
          30 September 2015 04: 52
          ... but in vain, the debt is red by payment and the wedge is knocked out with a wedge ... what you sow, you will reap .., and even more so - you sow the wind - you reap the storm ..
        7. +2
          30 September 2015 06: 06
          And as I said, Assad can save (Russia) from all this if he voluntarily renounces power
          Give me the frog (Mowgli) Well, the tiger then broke its mouth in the cartoon, but what happened to Kerry (Tobacco) no one remembers?
      2. +71
        29 September 2015 20: 14
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        it is necessary for a long time these hawks, together with the Ishilovites, to "soak in the toilets"

        This, perhaps, was a threat - we (pendos) will throw MANPADS to ISIS, if ...

        I am beginning to think that if the United States falls into the ocean with its entire population, then the whole World will breathe a sigh of relief.
        1. +4
          29 September 2015 20: 19
          Quote: iConst
          I am beginning to think that if the United States falls into the ocean with its entire population, then the whole World will breathe a sigh of relief.

          I wrote about this 3 years ago. Believe not, and preferably with the outskirts. this is a worthless, spoiled nation, and the Poles there, along with Canadians and Australians and British, Baltic. Joke wassat
          1. +2
            29 September 2015 22: 42
            Quote: Sterlya
            Joke

            I shook your joke)
        2. +13
          29 September 2015 20: 29
          If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.


          They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.

          Just told how the wild west will continue to operate.
          1. +10
            29 September 2015 20: 42
            Quote: figvam
            They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.

            Just told how the wild west will continue to operate.

            So modestly about yourself in the third person ... laughing
          2. +7
            29 September 2015 21: 34
            He told whom he would poison his dog (IG) ...
          3. +2
            29 September 2015 21: 58
            Quote: figvam
            If we do not find options to unite to fight against the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight them alone, guess what will happen?


            It seems to me that Kerry guessed what would happen to ISIS if Russia began to fight alone. All other words are just an attempt to cover up your fear with at least something. hi
          4. +3
            30 September 2015 05: 04
            ... fuck you "get the plane off the ground from the manual MANPADS, but you can bomb it from a height - no Afghan there, no mountains ...
        3. +2
          29 September 2015 21: 31
          And if you consider that the stupid and snickering masses will fail, part of the world will breathe not only with relief, but also with joy!
        4. +1
          29 September 2015 22: 00
          World glee is ensured. fellow
        5. +3
          29 September 2015 23: 58
          Give us a channel named after Stalin! (Between Mexico and Canada)
        6. +2
          30 September 2015 04: 59
          ... the mattress covers are mostly British, mostly immigrants - there is no reason to expect good from this riffraff ...
      3. +7
        29 September 2015 20: 35
        A container of Willow in Syria. Lost Turks and Saudis will put in place. We will listen to the comments of blacks on this subject.
        1. 0
          30 September 2015 08: 27
          Something tells me that "Verba" is already in Syria.
        2. +1
          30 September 2015 08: 27
          Something tells me that "Verba" is already in Syria.
          1. 0
            30 September 2015 15: 17
            Yes, probably there is. Once there are marines. Another thing is that there are no goals suitable for her so far. We did not hear about ISIS aviation
      4. +8
        29 September 2015 20: 43
        mattresses generally beguiled, threaten in the open.
        1. +3
          29 September 2015 21: 36
          Open threats are a sign of weakness! In everyday life ... whoever can do it silently !!! Who can not, threatens ...
      5. +16
        29 September 2015 20: 44
        Sasha 19871987
        Well, duck ISIS is their subsidiary pro-American company, it is necessary for a long time these hawks, together with ISIS members, "soak in toilets" !!!

        Interesting ... somebody reminded KERRI that the legitimate Syrian armed forces have not only MANPADS (more effective than ISIS terrorists) ... but there are other air defense systems (even more effective) ... and that the American eroplanes can also fall if, without the knowledge of Damascus, these planes begin to bomb the sovereign territory of Syria ... and the Yankees continue to insist on the overthrow of Assad ....
        Sergey Lavrov ought to hurry up and tell our "sworn partner" ...
        1. +4
          29 September 2015 21: 07
          They are already with the knowledge of Damascus, but without permission, bombing government troops in the presence of more effective means of air defense. Just for now, nobody knocks them. Yes, and will not bring down. Because Americans only need this. And Kerry understands this very well ...
        2. 0
          29 September 2015 21: 38
          It is enough to quietly put Assad Buki and S-300 ..... I think, in this situation, the Chinese will throw something ....
        3. +1
          29 September 2015 22: 01
          Is this a hint that the Stingers and Javelins against armored personnel carriers and tanks will start "by mistake" to drop IS? Well, rather not Lavrov, but Shoigu Konanshenkov, but they silently do their job
      6. +5
        29 September 2015 20: 55
        Just Dogs, fear lost !!!
        1. +1
          29 September 2015 21: 40
          In principle, they have a panic! Threats are the last argument ...
        2. +2
          29 September 2015 21: 53
          - It’s not they who have lost fear - it’s we who ceased to inspire it!
      7. +1
        29 September 2015 21: 56
        Isil did not try on himself yet a normal high-precision weapon, and we have foolish vacuum bombs.
        1. +2
          30 September 2015 00: 02
          And "Buratino" in Iraq is not noted?
    2. +6
      29 September 2015 20: 12
      well, they need to say something after Putin’s speech to show that they still exist and that they are supposedly solving something. Let them talk further, they won’t be left long ......
      1. +4
        29 September 2015 20: 21
        After reading your comment, I remembered this: after a fight, they don’t wave their fists.
        In other words: Obama had to speak and he had to do this together with Putin, and not run away from the approach to the press.

        In any case, okay, our President asked not to dramatize ....
    3. +9
      29 September 2015 20: 18
      Well, actually, electronic warfare systems also require verification. It was not without reason that they praised them for a whole year. They showed how MANPADS missiles fly past helicopters, but shells burst in the air. But he is a diplomat, he is not a military man, how should he know about this? smile
    4. +5
      29 September 2015 20: 20
      threaten openly.


      They have not been on ceremony lately. Unfortunately, Putin is a supporter of pure politics. But "partners" only understand the language of trouble. But we don’t give them any trouble. How will we react to MANPADS? Are we concerned?
      1. +3
        29 September 2015 20: 52
        put the other MANPADS ...
        1. +2
          29 September 2015 21: 45
          EWs, Buki, S-300, PTRK, Pinocchio to put .... Hands will then be untied ...
      2. +45
        29 September 2015 21: 02
        Quote: Asadullah
        They have not been on ceremony lately. Unfortunately, Putin is a supporter of pure politics. But "partners" only understand the language of trouble. But we don’t give them any trouble. How will we react to MANPADS? Are we concerned?

        Do you think so?)))
        If one observes the events of two or three days before the UN, then the situevinka can be described as "you tell me, I tell you" or mutual "alaverdi" .....
        - Aggravation on the border of Karabakh-worked art and there are more than a dozen dead a couple of days before the assembly, which can be read as a hint from Russian mattresses - "we will make you another hot spot." Tellingly, neither Aliyev nor Sargsyan made a broad statement on this matter.
        - Just before the very appearance of GDP at the UN General Assembly in Afghanistan, the Taliban took the mountains. Kunduz !!! This is where the mattresses after 11.09.2001/14/XNUMX hawk dry packs on an ongoing basis !!! (XNUMX years!)
        An accident?
        I think no. (interesting is the call of GDP from an unknown person during events at the UN General Assembly -type, everything is as it should, you can press)
        It’s just that Russia is starting to work with US methods. Moreover, not the last kid in the Taliban with the chase Maksud makes a statement that the Taliban do not consider Russia and the countries of the former USSR as the goal of their interests. (The Taliban would have been enough for Afghanistan)
        I think that this card was played in order to make the mattress mates understand that Russia could seriously affect their "drug business" and increase the number of coffins to America from Afghanistan if there is no progress on the issue in Syria.
        And what if ISIS feeds from the hands of the United States, then why the Taliban can not feed from the hands of .... Well, you understand. Especially considering that in Afghanistan there is a puppet government planted by the United States, which will remain in power only as long as the United States helps it.
        Troubles, they are different, but only teachers are good.
        Given the vulnerability of the American contingent in Afghanistan, dependent on supply and evacuation routes, after the closure of the Ulyanovsk transit, an aggravation in Afghanistan is very unnecessary for mattresses, and no one guarantees that it will not happen, if suddenly Russia does not blink an eye and declares that it will support the "moderate opposition" in Afghanistan.
        1. +5
          29 September 2015 22: 02
          Bravo! For the analysis ...
        2. +4
          29 September 2015 23: 32
          In principle, the Taliban can be agreed upon under the Taliban drug. business in Afghanistan was destroyed, in principle, to negotiate a position with them - you do not meddle with us, we are with you. Help with weapons, try to make allies.
        3. +1
          30 September 2015 07: 08
          If your analysis is correct regarding the situation in Afghanistan, then this is a competent multi-pass solitaire.
      3. +1
        30 September 2015 05: 18
        ... generals with machine guns do not go on the attack ...
    5. +2
      29 September 2015 20: 24
      Russia will be their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and planes falling from the sky.

      The boy said - the boy must answer for the "market"!
      And in general, indeed, here recently the actions of electronic warfare systems have been painted.
      It's time to check in the present case, and not to fly if our planes fly, as over Georgia!
      1. +2
        29 September 2015 22: 32
        In Afghanistan, we developed countermeasures to counter portable anti-aircraft missiles, one of them being the Afghan flight style.
        1. 0
          30 September 2015 05: 14
          ... what the hell are you comparing a desert-like table with the mountains of Afghanistan ..?
          1. 0
            30 September 2015 09: 17
            Nor can I compare anything, ours in Afghanistan have gained very good experience in countering MANPADS and the mountains have absolutely nothing to do with it.
      2. 0
        29 September 2015 22: 37
        Russia will be their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and planes falling from the sky.


        But it’s interesting how our anti-aircraft defense works out for a random flight of a NATO plane, when taking off from the Baltic airfield and landing on it again, over our territory. The countries are small - you can even miss the habits.
      3. +2
        29 September 2015 22: 40
        [quote = Starover_Z] The kid said - the kid should answer for the "bazaar"!
        And in general, indeed, here recently the actions of electronic warfare systems have been painted.
        It's time to check in the present case, and not fly, if our planes fly, as over Georgia! [/quote]
        RIA News. Russian air forces lost seven aircraft during the armed conflict with Georgia, says Russian expert Said Aminov.
        "According to the latest unofficial information, Georgian air defense systems were able to shoot down four Russian planes on the first day of the war on August 8 - three Su-25 and one Tu-22M3."
        The loss of these four aircraft was officially confirmed by the Russian General Staff.
        However, as the expert notes with reference to unofficial data, Russia lost three more planes during the conflict: one Su-24MR on August 8, one Su-24M on August 10 or 11 and one Su-25 on August 9, and also, possibly, one Mi -24.

        РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20080911/151180028.html#ixzz3n9r38lrk
        So, how over Georgia is not necessary. Need a lot better.
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    6. +3
      29 September 2015 20: 40
      Quote: MainBeam
      Pretty boy. Pressured, the blackmailer is elderly.

      ------------------
      Yes, he’ll get hell, they won’t fall ...
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 22: 10
        Apparently this old horseradish foot from the fracture lets you know when it fell from the bike)))) So I remembered about the fall))))
    7. +9
      29 September 2015 20: 51
      In general, Kerry should have hinted that in Ukraine, too, until a certain moment, the planes did not fall, but then somehow they quickly ended .. As if the local "coalition" did not start the death of aircraft in the most unexpected places, there is experience ..
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 22: 34
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Like a Siberian squirrel! laughing
    8. +3
      29 September 2015 20: 56
      Quote: MainBeam
      The Yankees have completely lost their fear - they threaten in the open


      Well, nowadays it is not the eighties, you can use the "Lever" on the "Patriot", but how their "invisible" and drones will feel there (and not only there) ??? !!! what
    9. +4
      29 September 2015 20: 56
      Kerry officially stated that if Russia is not the six of the United States in Syria, the United States will arm ISIS MANPADS against Russian aircraft! MANPADS will be designated by the US aircraft as "their own", and our aircraft will be "alien" and will shoot down.
      1. +3
        29 September 2015 21: 30
        EW systems have been created in Russia allowing aviation to go about their business without being afraid of savages with MANPADS.
      2. +1
        30 September 2015 07: 11
        Well, we should not count on the fact that our military analysts missed this moment. I think and really want to believe that our equipment in Syria is ready for such a "turnover"
        1. +1
          30 September 2015 09: 06
          At least on the Ka-52 there is a "President-S", what about the fighter aircraft, can someone tell me?
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    10. +7
      29 September 2015 21: 20
      Open threats were launched! What is the recognition of the presence of control over the IS by the USA! Where let’s say, there the IG will direct activity! Masks reset! Hde demagogues and mockingbirds from the promised lands? Well, and whose project is this IG ???
    11. +2
      29 September 2015 22: 26
      Let's hope that soon Syria will become the second Vietnam for the United States and its coalition. NO PASARAN! / THEY WILL NOT PASS!
    12. +2
      29 September 2015 22: 55
      Why blackmailer? By saying ISIS we mean the USA. Just warned. The war against ISIS is the war against the United States.
    13. 0
      29 September 2015 23: 00
      If you lock it, you can lose immediately and a lot of treasurers. And the dollar will get acquainted with the real bottom.
      1. +1
        29 September 2015 23: 16
        Quote: Dilshat
        can be reset immediately and a lot of treasure

        Quote: http://www.vz.ru/economy/2015/7/17/756687.html
        In the total volume of foreign investments in US securities, which amount to $ 6,13 trillion, Russia's share is only 1,1%

        Quote: Dilshat
        And the dollar will get to know the real bottom

        Nope .. unfortunately, it will not work ..
    14. +1
      29 September 2015 23: 14
      Well, where there are "Stingers", there are "Needles" and in general for any cunning American ... opu there is a device of the domestic defense industry "with a screw" laughing
    15. 0
      29 September 2015 23: 53
      Let there be a beech in the hangar and a plane lying on top and say that the beech is to blame. The lying nation Americans love only money, the rest is foreign to them.
    16. 0
      30 September 2015 02: 52
      If Kerry performs, and Benka Netanyahu is not enough on the rug at Putin's feet, the P-77, Pantsir, Triumph of the base and the Favorite of the APRK Moskva will see American-Israeli aircraft falling over Syria.
      They themselves will be beaten down - they will see for themselves.
      Or does Kerry think the base is against the bearded men? We "came to stay". Against American invasion and Israeli aggression.
    17. 0
      30 September 2015 07: 27
      How to understand this: will mattresses supply MANPADS to militants from ISIS, as Mujahideen of Afghanistan?
    18. +6
      30 September 2015 07: 42
      Do you even understand ...
    19. 0
      30 September 2015 09: 19
      It’s like they fly there themselves ...... maybe some random Buk thread \ accidentally starts \ and accidentally gets into an exceptional plane ... eh? did not think about such a situation, gentlemen exceptional dolbo .... s?
    20. 0
      30 September 2015 09: 42
      Let them better fear for their planes, or did he give an indirect hint that ISIS is our "subsidiary"?
    21. 0
      30 September 2015 10: 04
      ....Pretty boy. Pressured, an old blackmailer ....

      ... So we need the same coin .... ".... If Russian planes begin to fall, then we do not guarantee the" air fall "of American and Co. ....." ..... At the same time, our Israeli friends will see " combat use of the "S-300 .... Otherwise they all suffer that the S-300 has never been used in battle .... Satisfy your curiosity ... :)))))
    22. 0
      30 September 2015 15: 04
      Pts maybe, but ... This will seriously raise the degree of confrontation. Now, although we are fighting, but behind the scenes, indirectly. After such statements, they will either have to fight openly with us, or swallow their own lies. Or ... do not make such statements.
    23. 0
      30 September 2015 18: 59
      the clown mattress entered the circus arena
    24. 0
      30 September 2015 23: 43
      Americans soon and without beech will run into bamboos ...
    25. 0
      1 October 2015 20: 23
      The head of American diplomacy John Kerry said that "Russia could be the next target of ISIS militants." According to Kerry, that’s why Russia “should not take any action against ISIS alone”

      And who said that we are alone there fighting IS? We use only our aviation component, and ground-based military operations, as before on Assad’s Syrian army! Yes, plus Iran also helps the loyal Assad opposition.
    26. 0
      2 October 2015 09: 49
      did he mean that Russia would see people with American MANPADS? Is he threatening us on behalf of the igil?
      Or maybe Kerry will see on TV heaps of dead people with American MANPADS? Pontorez is cheap.
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    28. 0
      2 October 2015 15: 47
      State Department Spokesperson:
      - We are deeply concerned about yesterday’s statements by the Kremlin!
      Journalist:
      - Which ones?
      - Yes, no difference ... laughing
    29. 0
      2 October 2015 19: 41
      So what? And let them not fly where it is not necessary!
  2. +12
    29 September 2015 20: 03
    Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called “coalition”.

    So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way. wink
    1. +15
      29 September 2015 20: 10
      Quote: Vladimirets
      So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way.


      What "honor" are you talking about? Where there should be honor, the United States has grown fucking!
      And you can be sure that the Yankees do not hesitate to supply the Caliphate with stingers "from the belly."
      Overseas and runs into the establishment of a no-fly zone for them ... so that the ISIS and Stingers do not let us go on the attack.
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 22: 10
        They won’t provide ISIS with the Stingers, the fawn MANPADs hurt, all the more if they are captured by the evidence that the United States will supply ISIS with weapons will be 100%, and you won’t get out there.
    2. +7
      29 September 2015 20: 16
      Quote: Vladimirets
      So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way.

      I do not think that bearded signs will be considered. In addition, I doubt that the Su-34 was driven there to work as NURSs (as some write here).
      1. +1
        29 September 2015 21: 04
        What are you, how little! The plane has a "friend or foe" system, if you shoot our MANPADS at the SU-24, the system will answer "friendly" and the missile will not hit the plane. And if the United States supplies ISIL with MANPADS, then American planes will respond to missiles "their own", and Russian MANPADS aircraft will be identified as "alien" and will shoot down.
        1. +4
          29 September 2015 21: 23
          Quote: maiman61
          if you shmalnut our MANPADS on SU-24

          As far as I remember from my air defense guerrilla warfare, this system operates for a short time, target capture, request, response, and only allows you to determine whether yours or someone else's, and at the expense of hitting, a person makes a decision, and, if desired, can take it regardless of the "password" ... True, it was not a MANPADS, but an S-125 air defense system request
        2. +7
          29 September 2015 21: 27
          Quote: maiman61
          if you shoot our MANPADS at the SU-24, the system will respond "friendly" and the missile will not hit the plane.

          The first Strela does not have such a system - shoot at whoever you want. The "Needle" has it, but it turns off by pressing a button. Strela-2 seems to have it, but it also most likely turns off. At "Stinger" the interrogator is worn on the shooter's belt - throw it out nafig, and that's the end of it.
      2. +2
        29 September 2015 21: 42
        Quote: GRAY
        Su-34 drove there to work Nurses

        With thermobaric charges is desirable.
        In order not to aim for a long time.
    3. SSR
      +5
      29 September 2015 20: 18
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called “coalition”.

      So after all, people of honor do not shoot in their own way. wink

      I'd love to answer Kerry that
      - you know better, because your planes "bomb" igils and do not fall, Hollande's planes bomb and do not fall (though they do not get where they need to be) and do you want to explain such a strange relationship?
      In general, this is the highest degree of policy, when there is nothing to cover and they begin to openly threaten.
      I hope our people know about such a pin.dos strategy and ways to level it are provided.
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 22: 16
        I wrote above ... Clean gateway !!!
      2. 0
        30 September 2015 14: 51
        Quote from S.S.R.
        I hope our people know about such a pin.dos strategy and ways to level it are provided.

        it is extremely difficult to level it out.
        There are essentially two options:
        1) agree with the Saxons, but then you have to pay the bills and maybe on the other flanks: Ukraine, the Arctic or maybe the Asia-Pacific region ... who knows.
        2) to block the supply of weapons to ISIS, which is almost impossible. You need to have both an extensive espionage network and intelligence in the region, as well as forces that can cut these channels. I know for sure that wherever you spit yes BV, you will surely fall into the Amer spy. About ours not much in the know. Unless the Iranians help, or better, Israel. At the expense of the latter is unlikely.
  3. +31
    29 September 2015 20: 03
    It is necessary to deliver "IGLA" to Afghanistan and crash 10-20 NATO aircraft there. Unafraid, all became.
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 22: 17
      Needles there already have a hundred pounds at Dostum ..... For a long time ....
  4. +7
    29 September 2015 20: 03
    The radish is openly threatening. It’s not at all afraid of a big tsunami!
  5. +6
    29 September 2015 20: 06
    There is nothing electronic warfare systems and infrared countermeasures against MANPADS (President-S, Vitebsk, Lever-AB).
  6. +20
    29 September 2015 20: 06
    the masks were dropped ... they wanted to fight with us with the hands of Ukrainians, now we will fight with amers with the help of the Syrians and Iranians
    1. +5
      29 September 2015 20: 47
      Quote: morozik
      Now we will fight with the amers with the help of the Syrians and Iranians

      Only there is a nuance: Ukraine is on the border of Russia, and between the Americans and the Syrians - the Atlantic Ocean ...

      As for the "masks", now many different "Minsk agreements" will begin to emerge, according to which the Americans will also accuse Russia of violating them, but without intermediaries in the form of Ukraine ...
    2. 0
      29 September 2015 22: 18
      Samiim also have to, along the way .... later ...
  7. +21
    29 September 2015 20: 06
    Is it strange, friends, MANPADS just do not appear out of nowhere, or will the image of a mujahideen with a stinger KNOWN from here again appear? And, it seems, Russia has made a decision on airstrikes - too many points to this, including and yesterday’s statements by Putin
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 20: 39
      The fact is that those same MANPADS are all numbered and are registered under the agreement of the 88 year. This was one of the conditions for our exit from Afghanistan. (Based on the results of using stingers and, a little later, needles.) For the same reason, all MANPADS of our production unexpectedly disappeared from Ukrainian bases two years ago. Under that agreement, any of the parties can at any time check their availability in warehouses (this applies to both amers and us !!!). And if they substitute themselves like that, then civilian air traffic in the world will order a long life, precisely because no people will buy a ticket if they know that they can be killed by a 12 kid for years of age (even such a kid can shoot MANPADS from these generations). And it was for this reason that the Malaysian Boeing could not be attributed to us! I did not shoot MANPADS there !!!
    2. +3
      29 September 2015 20: 55
      The fact that Russia decided on airstrikes was clear as soon as our first plane appeared
  8. +11
    29 September 2015 20: 07
    So, you see, and NATO planes will begin to fall. For the Islamists there will not be much difference whose planes to shoot down.
    1. +13
      29 September 2015 20: 15
      So, you see, and NATO planes will begin to fall. There will not be much difference for the Islamistswhose planes to shoot down


      Are you sure that the MANPADS operators will be Islamists? I am far from certain.
    2. +23
      29 September 2015 20: 17
      The Americans radically solved the problems of MANPADS - by banning the reduction below 4000 meters. Recently, the British published their report:
      300 departures
      consumption 93 Brimstone, 212 Hellfire missiles, 244 Paveway IV. The Hells launched from drones, KABs and Brimstones with Tornadoes at the heights of 5000 +.

      Confirmed 303 murders bad guys and their supporting civilians. I.e 1 departure - 1 corpse barely pulled. Efficiency rolls over wassat .

      Therefore, in principle, they are not afraid of MANPADS, since they quietly work with CABs and Missiles at 100-150k dollars for individual broads and their norms.

      Judging by the rooks and Su-24 being transferred to Syria, it is supposed to work with cheap cast irons, NARs and other things, which must be let down to get somewhere. Here MANPADS are quite an effective means.
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 20: 27
        Quote: donavi49
        Judging by the rooks and Su-24 being transferred to Syria, it is supposed to work with cheap cast irons, NARs and other things, which must be let down to get somewhere. Here MANPADS are quite an effective means.

        Do you think the Su-24 and Su-25 cannot carry precision guided weapons?
        1. +2
          29 September 2015 20: 37
          They can. The best carriers of guided weapons are the upgraded Su-24, but there the question of the X-23 / 25 rocket cannot be used from above (3 / 4km maxima), plus the qualifications are high (and the closer to the maximum, the higher the qualifications). And newer missiles are expensive (the old ones are dismantled by launch), it will come out like the British Ovod for 20 million rubles - a cart of baboons. Plus if.

          Well, Su-34.

          At Su-30СМ everything rests against the missing container, it is blind on the ground.
          1. +1
            29 September 2015 20: 51
            Quote: donavi49
            but there the question in the X-23/25 rocket from a height cannot be used (maxima 3 / 4km)

            I don’t know what the height of the missiles is, but in this case the CAB is cheaper and more practical.
            The distance to the target is 10 km., Height 5 km. - dropped the bomb and went on a U-turn.
            MANPADS will not be useful to anyone.
          2. +2
            29 September 2015 21: 26
            Su-30SM is universal. It works on land, water and air, therefore they were sent to the Crimea for basing ...
          3. 0
            29 September 2015 21: 54
            Quote: donavi49
            will come out like the English Gadfly for 20 million rubles - a cart of baboons.

            For this, there are aviation ATGMs: “Sturm-V”, “Attack-V”, “Whirlwind”, “Threat”, this applies to ATGMs of the second generation standing in service, as for ATGMs of the 3rd generation, which increased range 15-20 kilometers of "Hermes-A", and guidance seems to be carried out from a drone.
            Hermes ground launchers are capable of hitting enemy armored vehicles and cannons at distances of up to 100 kilometers, as I understood, guidance is also carried out from an unmanned aerial vehicle.
          4. +1
            30 September 2015 14: 54
            Quote: donavi49
            At Su-30СМ everything rests against the missing container, it is blind on the ground.

            not properly. it works on the ground and without a container.
            Su-30SM - the same Su-30MKI. The latter is beautiful and carries RCC, both on the ground and in the air. In short wagons.
          5. 0
            30 September 2015 20: 47
            In Afghanistan, su-24s were used and not one plane was lost. Not counting: "December 18, 1988 - Su-24. The plane returning from a combat sortie, when landing at the Karshi airfield (Uzbekistan), left the runway and caught fire. One crew member was killed. ”Precision weapons were also used.
      2. +5
        29 September 2015 20: 30
        Quote: donavi49
        Therefore, in principle, they are not afraid of MANPADS, since they quietly work with KABs and Rocket for $ 100-150k for single women and norms.

        We also have QABs and missiles, why do you think that they will not be used?
        Therefore, in principle, they are not afraid of MANPADS

        Still, they are not directly involved in supporting ground forces.
        1. +2
          29 September 2015 20: 41
          Quote: GRAY
          Do you think the Su-24 and Su-25 cannot carry precision guided weapons?

          Quote: GRAY
          We also have QABs and missiles, why do you think that they will not be used?

          And we have high-precision weapons, etc., but against whom to use them? Against the "carts"?
          Then the effectiveness of aviation will be, like the United States.
          1. +1
            29 September 2015 20: 54
            Quote: andj61
            And we have high-precision weapons, etc., but against whom to use them? Against the "carts"?

            Against fortifications and strong points of the enemy. IS is holding onto settlements, not naked desert.
        2. +3
          29 September 2015 20: 44
          I wrote above. Plus to the above, also as a central office and control. Westerners use containers and drones that give an excellent picture on 20-25km, which you can work on. The Air Force only dreams of this, domestic containers only in mock-ups and limited experimental products. The basic tool is not to highlight, but to shoot by type - like a babahi = oh holiday. So very quickly the media will start hysteria. This is not the Saudis, who won a bomb on a neutral tribe, on 130 + corpses and under 200 wounded. And all the rules, well, they were mistaken, the Saudis did not even apologize.
          1. +7
            29 September 2015 21: 08
            Quote: donavi49
            Westerners use containers and drones,

            And what else remains for them? The Syrian army does not give them target designation.
            Our drones have been flying there for a long time and digital maps of the area are also ready for a long time.
    3. 0
      29 September 2015 22: 22
      Moreover, as experience shows, Islamists are different ...
  9. +19
    29 September 2015 20: 08
    This is the exceptional answer to Putin’s speech at the UN yesterday, now there are threats, it’s just some kind of kindergarten, if you don’t play with my scoop you will have more. The answer will torment the old with the black monkey.
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 22: 27
      Indeed, the primitiveness of their reaction is surprising! Which, incidentally, indicates the absence of an adequate, dignified answer ... They were blown away, so they just dropped to open threats !!!
  10. +7
    29 September 2015 20: 08
    I have a seditious thought. Well, well, this ISIS. There are safer. Which ISIS and nurtured.
    1. +3
      29 September 2015 21: 42
      certainly we shall, but then ... and it’s better to introduce some sort of Trotsky to the glory of the world revolution.
    2. 0
      29 September 2015 22: 28
      There’s a complex nuclear arsenal ...
  11. +6
    29 September 2015 20: 10
    Comrades! Who is more advanced in the knowledge of the Kerrian language and having a "walker" (communication channel) with him. Write to this mummy that you don’t need to teach RUSSIA, with a mustache. Better to put things in order. The coffin was already exposed from a certain hole.
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 21: 07
      Quote: ssn18
      Comrades! Who is more advanced in the knowledge of the Kerrian language and having a "walker" (communication channel) with him. Write to this mummy that you don’t need to teach RUSSIA, with a mustache. Better to put things in order. The coffin was already exposed from a certain hole.


      Don’t worry about bullying ... Madonna with cookies overcame a stroke .. she’s paralyzed, so this remains a little tense .. Syria will finish him ...
  12. +5
    29 September 2015 20: 11
    Well, Russia has never heard of people with MANPADS. Thank you for helping Mr. Comrade Kerry.
  13. +5
    29 September 2015 20: 12
    This US leadership resembles children in a sandbox ... Soon they will fight in hysteria and stomp their legs ...
  14. +9
    29 September 2015 20: 14
    That is, it has been openly said that America will supply the MANPADS igil. So it was in Afghanistan.
  15. +19
    29 September 2015 20: 15
    Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.

    But it’s interesting whose Is it the falling planes that Russia will see?
    1. +3
      29 September 2015 20: 20
      good Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
  16. +7
    29 September 2015 20: 16
    If we do not find options to unite to fight against the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight them alone,

    This is no longer diplomacy. This is a non-diplomatic hysteria. Russia already will not be left alone, and such statements will only increase the circle of understanding people. Were you offered an exit with a "whole" face? I do not want? You wouldn't have to catch up with the locomotive. fool

    hi
    1. +10
      29 September 2015 20: 50
      Listen, here I read the news and understand that Lavrov is a true diplomat, with titanium patience. If I were in Lavrov’s place, at the first meeting, after such words, Keri would have seen his teeth fall, and after them his carcass ...
      He threatens to yell ... am
      1. +4
        29 September 2015 21: 09
        Quote: Rader
        He threatens to yell ...


        quote Lavrov completely do not take words out of context .. laughing
        1. +2
          29 September 2015 21: 28
          Quote: vorobey
          quote Lavrov do not completely take words out of context.

          Censorship however ..... This is not for you. UN. stop
          1. +1
            29 September 2015 22: 20
            Quote: vorobey
            Quote: Rader
            He threatens to yell ...


            quote Lavrov completely do not take words out of context .. laughing

            So they will ban ... laughing
            Quote: Allex28
            Quote: vorobey
            quote Lavrov do not completely take words out of context.

            Censorship however ..... This is not for you. UN. stop

            That's for sure ... Our moderators are not some kind of Ban Gimun lol
  17. +3
    29 September 2015 20: 17
    Afraid that we can do without them?
    1. +4
      29 September 2015 20: 25
      Quote: narval20
      Afraid that we can do without them?

      He is afraid to lose his brainchild, so much dough swelled into him
  18. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 17
    Impact drones are needed, we are looking at this war for 5 years, and the country's leadership has not created the necessary conclusions.
    1. +7
      29 September 2015 20: 23
      It is quite possible that we will see "falling" planes, but if we do not stop IS, Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda in Syria and Iraq now, these terrorists, with the support of the US and Israel, will come to our "home" and then there will be much more victims among us.
      It is the destruction or at least the weakening of our country that is the main goal of the bandits armed and trained by the CIA and Mossad.
  19. +8
    29 September 2015 20: 18
    The United States may see partisans with cornets and burning abrams right now in Yemen. And the vaunted Patriot does not save much from the 9K79-1 missiles falling on the head of the royal rati. So let them worry about the ass of their allies first. And Allah will help us overcome the Igil air defense, tea is not the 70th year in the yard.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 20: 23
      Quote: Vincent
      The United States may see partisans with cornets and burning abrams right now in Yemen.

      I think the US has seen enough of burning abrashek back in Iraq 10 years ago laughing
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 23: 34
        "No losses" (C) wink
    2. +17
      29 September 2015 20: 25
      The Hussites there had 2,5 smuggled Sudanese or Iranian Cornets and they didn’t use them very well.

      Métis, Contests - here are their breadcrumbs, beating abrashek and M-60. Recently, a column was burned there on a departure from Al Khobh (Saudi territory). Among the ten Oshkoshes, cobras and M113 with additional armor, there was a whole brigadier general (3 stars) Ibrahim Hamzi, well, Abrashka also could not overcome the Yugoslav Osa.
      1. 0
        30 September 2015 04: 51
        Nice to hear such good news :)
        1. 0
          30 September 2015 06: 28
          https://youtu.be/yR8bX7rGrbY
      2. 0
        30 September 2015 06: 51
        The General
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ppTIcSptQ0
    3. 0
      29 September 2015 21: 34
      he doesn’t have time to react, the maximum flight time of the Tochka U missile for 120 km is only 130 seconds or so ..... and the missile must be detected, for a total of 30 seconds ... the patriot sucks in such conditions.
  20. +5
    29 September 2015 20: 22
    Quote: Kerry
    They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.

    But they don’t denigrate Russia like now, and they don’t denigrate Russia to Crimea either ...
  21. +6
    29 September 2015 20: 23
    "... Russia" should not take any action against ISIS alone. "
    Yeah. And under the "wise" guidance of syshya. For only this can read. Itit!
  22. 0
    29 September 2015 20: 23
    “Russia should not take any action against ISIS alone”
    So we were kind of alone and were not going to. And Putin, not only at the UN, but at a meeting with his grandmother, tried to convey this idea to ... But what can you do if Carey, as a representative of the oligarchy (US military-industrial complex), while not being president, defends the interests of her clan (including the party) and the institution of presidency, which was originally intended to balance the interests of industrial and financial clans in the United States, cracked the departure of Bush the Elder (he was the last who, as the director of the CIA, really knew about undercurrents), now this is clearly visible. And the brawl for the presidency in the United States began, but it began, it turns out, at our expense !!!
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 20: 53
      It will not work. RSZOshny gifts of the stingers are not afraid. Yes, and not the only option ...
    2. 0
      30 September 2015 04: 50
      I think it was meant that the Yankees Iran, Iraq and Syria, in principle, do not perceive force.
  23. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 24
    The entire policy of the SGA is built on blackmail, bribery and meanness! Their "exclusivity" will soon exclude them from the society of decent countries, and from them and their pack of jackals, the threat emanates not only to Russia, but also to other countries that have joined it and those who are ready to defend their sovereignty from the Western "crap"! These statements by Kerry already show their progressive weakness, albeit not yet clearly visible to everyone, and the fact that in the case of ISIS they drove themselves into a corner and are now snarling like that wolf in Krylov's fable! With its intelligible political position, Russia can really lead the international protest movement against the selfishness of the SGA! hi
  24. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 25
    The mattresses are in their repertoire. No coalition will be with them. And they will interfere with us in every way in the fight against ISIS. By supplying terrorists with weapons and trying to draw our country into the war in the Middle East.
    In my opinion, a coalition with Iran, Iraq and Syria is a good option. And if China joins this, then there will be an optimal ... soldier
  25. dsi
    +2
    29 September 2015 20: 25
    and Russia will fight them alone, guess what will happen?

    And the Syrian army, has he already taken over?
  26. +3
    29 September 2015 20: 26
    Here is a seer! It turns out that if Russia begins to fight with Isil, then they will not darn and run away, but it turns out then they will choose Russia as a target, and even planes can begin to fall! Straight all their ideas on before predicted all of a sudden!
    Or maybe someone will get a cunning gray-haired face or a black asshole ?!
  27. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 29
    It is strange that Mr. Kerry does not speak about people with MANPADS and falling planes in relation to the United States and other representatives of the so-called American “coalition”.

    + stopitsot and nothing to add.
  28. +3
    29 September 2015 20: 30
    Their Hercules with weapons may not reach a moderate opposition in this case.
  29. +10
    29 September 2015 20: 30
    The first MANPADS were handed over to the Syrian opposition in 2012 in the amount of 40 pieces, then Saudi annually delivered, plus they didn’t take them in warehouses, so the NATO bombers from a great height not accessible to the MANPADS and from Jordan and Turkey, but Russian planes will have to take off from the territory of Syria, this is probably what Kerry meant, take off and gain altitude probably towards the sea,
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 21: 11
      These MANPADS are also numbering interesting?
    2. 0
      29 September 2015 21: 11
      These MANPADS are also numbering interesting?
      1. 0
        30 September 2015 04: 43
        I am sure that yes. Like any military equipment, it should be marked to track the chain of contact in the wrong hands if used in the wrong place. Otherwise, they will disappear in hundreds, stealing from warehouses not only with us.
    3. 0
      30 September 2015 04: 46
      As I understand it, the Su-24-25, in principle, operate from not very high altitudes and are therefore vulnerable to MANPADS by definition. Judging by the losses in Georgia, again.
  30. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 30
    American "Gulchatay" opened its face!
  31. +10
    29 September 2015 20: 31
    And we have our own answer Kerry.
  32. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 31
    If we do not find options to unite to fight against the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight them alone, guess what will happen?


    1. If Mr. Kerry you think that we are nowhere without you, then you are deeply mistaken. We can without you.
    2. We (Russia) are no longer alone in the fight against ISIS. There are Syrians who have been fighting for several years.
    3. We will not swing our (our domestic) history. It’s not worth relying on it, and we know that. But you, Kerry, still read it to understand what if Russia will fight with someone alone.
  33. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 32
    Not sts, Old Kerry! Russia will not be the only one to peck your fosterlings! We already have a coalition with Iran, Iraq and Seria, and there is also China watching you sign!
  34. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 32
    In this case, who is flying without their permission from Syria in their airspace?
    I think they can be shot down, as the country's airspace was violated by military aircraft!
    S-300 will not be allowed to deliver Syria, but they’ll keep track of the MANPADS!
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 21: 04
      Quote: LeeDer
      S-300 will not allow Syria to be delivered

      Well, why? The first - DO NOT GIVE GOD! - a Russian plane shot down in Syria will untie our hands! And let anyone try to object! am
    2. +1
      30 September 2015 04: 39
      Why won't the S-300 be delivered? Our ships have already made dozens of walkers by ships, was it really impossible to drag a couple of batteries quietly? Moreover, judging by their publications, they discover each of our tank and aircraft in Syria with surprise, which means they are fucking watched.
  35. +4
    29 September 2015 20: 34


    Kerry:
    If we don’t find options to unite to fight the militants of the Islamic State, and Russia will fight with them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see people with MANPADS and airplanes falling from the sky.
    Tell me honestly, and you MANPADS to deliver mattresses to them. Horseradish is old.
  36. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 34
    A year ago, it would seem nonsense to hear Lavrov's "concern" about the lack of a Ukrainian amnesty for the DPR fighters and Kerry's "concern" about the insufficient protection of Russian attack aircraft ...
  37. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 38
    He forgot to add that this is due to the supply of the latest weapons from the USA to ISIS))))))
  38. -1
    29 September 2015 20: 41
    ..
    - assured - maybe
    - assured - this is faith
    - and not persuasion ....
    / these are two big differences /
  39. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 45
    Kerry said Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"

    Well, yes, yes ...
    -And where is the body?
    -Here is the body ...
    (c) movie "Heavenly slug"
    I went to the censor. I’ve read hair on end! If the ancient Ukrainians arrested ships in Sivash, then what to expect from the exceptional?
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 21: 20
      ... deputy chairman of the interdepartmental group of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on compensation for losses caused by temporary occupation of part of the territory of Ukraine ...

      Forgive me ?! belay lol
    2. 0
      30 September 2015 04: 35
      I wonder what they hold them on, on air mattresses? Or do they have a couple of boats in the storeroom left, along with a couple of Su-24s not yet shot down?
  40. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 47
    If our military is very offended and preoccupied, then the no-fly zone can be arranged not only over Syria ...
    There are all kinds of Dutch heights ...
    1. +5
      29 September 2015 20: 52
      Quote: Sega66
      Goalлenдall sorts of heights ...

      Holland what is wrong? smile
      1. +2
        29 September 2015 21: 01
        Quote: iConst
        Gollandiya what is wrong?
        laughing Nevermind! Well, a slip of the tongue - confused Holland with Golan wink It happens in the park!
        1. +1
          29 September 2015 21: 15
          computer technology corrected the "mistake", did not pay attention.
          1. +6
            29 September 2015 23: 06
            computer technology corrected the "mistake", did not pay attention

            Ah mistakes, mistakes ... laughing
            1. +1
              30 September 2015 04: 31
              I really liked the Netherlands, neighing like a horse :), thanks
  41. 0
    29 September 2015 20: 53
    Quote: iConst
    Quote: sasha 19871987
    it is necessary for a long time these hawks, together with the Ishilovites, to "soak in the toilets"

    This, perhaps, was a threat - we (pendos) will throw MANPADS to ISIS, if ...

    I am beginning to think that if the United States falls into the ocean with its entire population, then the whole World will breathe a sigh of relief.


    -Myku, you smell, the Russians flew into space!
    -So, mustache?

    Why in the ocean? Let the hosts go to hell with the hangers-on. We will customize trampolines. By God, I’m not sorry. Neither trampolines nor THESE.
  42. +3
    29 September 2015 20: 53
    If Russia does not find options for uniting with the Abamov coalition and alone will carry on the fight against ISIS, then, according to Kerry, it will become a target for Islamists' MANPADS. In other words, it offers not unification, but an ordinary "roof" and requires submission and dividends in the form of removing Assad from ruling Syria. Well, and then everything is on the list, if the conditions proposed by the "godfather" are not met. In my opinion, the diplomacy of the Americans has reached heights or, on the contrary, has sunk to the level of a gang of gangsters. What business can Russia have with such a government and what kind of entry can there be in this gangster association? Moreover, Russia is not alone, but in a coalition with countries that really want to fight ISIS and which have a better chance of winning than the Americans with their rotten politics ...
  43. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 53
    DOGS ARE SAWING AND THE CARAVAN IS GOING. TIME WILL SHOW WHICH PLANES WILL FALL.
    1. -3
      29 September 2015 21: 39
      Whose will be there and will fall.
  44. +3
    29 September 2015 20: 55
    "Don't touch our terrorists, otherwise we will set them on you." lol
  45. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 58
    It is very similar not to a partner warning, but to blackmail and an outright threat from Washington.
    As Putin politely put it in an interview with an American journalist, "Kerry HITRE IT! He is a diplomat, and it is his job to cheat ..."
    Well, we do not need these tales: we well REMEMBER WHO armed the "spirits" in Afghanistan with "Stingers"! And if now freshly man-made MANPADS appear at the IS, their origin will be clear to any child! am
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 21: 13
      Quote: avia1991
      It is very similar not to a partner warning, but to blackmail and an outright threat from Washington.

      I wish Sergey health hi! A little adjustment. Kerry said that Russia can see its own in Syria i.e. USA falling planes.
      .
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 23: 23
        Quote: Nikoha.2010
        Kerry said that Russia can see its own in Syria i.e. USA falling planes.

        Greetings, namesake! hi
        Perhaps Kerry just made a reservation - from the same series that "but we have the fastest deer!" laughing
        But seriously, this is, in fact, a very poorly disguised threat to us: "Not only will we not cooperate with you, but we will also take advantage of the moment to do more harm to you!"
        They very much hope that Russia will directly participate in the database .. but there, in Syria, this, in my opinion, is not worth doing - here I agree with Putin! .. I hope his intentions in this matter correspond to his words.
  46. +2
    29 September 2015 20: 58
    In T.V.A.R.I. - they themselves created terrorists, they feed and set them on, and if someone stands up for ASADA and crushes the jackals and sixes of the p. d. sorry sorry !!!!!!)
  47. +1
    29 September 2015 20: 59
    Judging by the statements of the US State Department and the French Foreign Ministry, these die-hard "peacekeepers" took offense at Putin. One began to intimidate, and the other is trying to drag Russia into his adventure (“If Russia opposes terrorists, then it is completely normal to strike at them,” the Foreign Minister believes. “The international community strikes at Daesh (the Arabic name for IS), France strikes, but Russia does nothing. ”As the German general said to Stirlitz: These fools think that the war can be won by bombing alone.
    1. +3
      29 September 2015 21: 06
      Quote: Stinger
      Following the statements of the US State Department and the French Foreign Ministry, these die-hard "peacekeepers" took offense at Putin.
      - I think they were not offended, but simply at a loss. They are disoriented - Russia succeeds, but they all get out of some sort of crap.

      No matter how they burst into tears ... laughing
  48. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 00
    You, John, run into rudeness. Teach your spiders.
  49. +3
    29 September 2015 21: 00
    Is this something new? Stingers Mujahideen in Afghanistan also supplied mattresses
  50. +3
    29 September 2015 21: 00
    For some reason, Kerry kept silence that if he didn’t burn out with MANPADS, then the Ishilovites would sit at the controls of the Raptor
    1. -4
      29 September 2015 21: 37
      and they say -We bought the Raptor in the military? what is the problem ?
      1. +1
        1 October 2015 07: 00
        In order to learn how to fly on a raptor and on any other modern airplane, you need a lot of time and some brains. to transfer a modern airplane to the hands of fanatics is, to say the least, nonsense. Our only thanks would have said such an opportunity to dig into the wreckage of this bird.
  51. gcn
    +1
    29 September 2015 21: 01
    This guy admitted that they have strings guiding that organized gathering of Islamists which at different times were called by different names and now it is...
  52. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 03
    And on the MANPADS there will be an inscription - made in USA.
  53. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 05
    Quote: iConst
    Quote: Sega66
    Goalлenдall sorts of heights ...

    Holland what is wrong? smile


    This auto grammar correction was naughty, I didn’t pay attention.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 21: 12
      The Israeli regime also states that it will continue to carry out airstrikes against the Syrian army. However, one could not expect anything else from these terrorist friends and loyal satellites of the United States.
      Defense Minister: The Israeli Air Force will not be stopped by the presence of the Russian army in Syria
      Israel is not coordinating its defensive actions in Syria with Russia and does not intend to abandon strikes on the territory of this country
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/09/29/ministr-oboroni--izrailskie-vvs
      -ne-ostanovit-prisutstvie-rossiyskoy-armii-v-sirii/
  54. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 08
    Electronic warfare will judge everything. Of course the United States will strain the dill.
  55. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 10
    Stroporezu.

    Thanks for the video "Somewhere in the Sky." COOL! And the music is very on topic. fellow
  56. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 12
    stars and stripes! He brazenly, cynically and openly talks about how he will set ISIS against Russia! He's the first one to be brought down
  57. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 13
    Kurds can be helped by MANPADS
  58. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 14
    This is how a pissed mattress “stinks.” laughing
  59. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 14
    The destroyer "Donald Cook" knows better who to fear.
    Poor sharing of experience with colleagues is very bad.
  60. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 16
    Russia can see its planes falling... belay recourse No.
    and Mattresstan can see its flying planes... And then - its falling skyscrapers... request
    As a result of games with terrorism and terrorists.
  61. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 18
    Quote: donavi49
    The Americans radically solved the problems of MANPADS - by banning the reduction below 4000 meters. Recently, the British published their report:
    300 departures
    consumption 93 Brimstone, 212 Hellfire missiles, 244 Paveway IV. The Hells launched from drones, KABs and Brimstones with Tornadoes at the heights of 5000 +.

    Confirmed 303 murders bad guys and their supporting civilians. I.e 1 departure - 1 corpse barely pulled. Efficiency rolls over wassat .

    A bearded anecdote immediately comes to mind: An American Hellfire missile, costing $100, destroyed a strategic target in Afghanistan - a herd of donkeys, worth $7. The world is watching with interest the economic confrontation between the two superpowers laughing
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 22: 24
      Yes, there one Donkey costs 100000 Afghani.
  62. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 18
    Quote: voronbel53
    If Russia does not find options for uniting with the Abamov coalition and alone will carry on the fight against ISIS, then, according to Kerry, it will become a target for Islamists' MANPADS. In other words, it offers not unification, but an ordinary "roof" and requires submission and dividends in the form of removing Assad from ruling Syria. Well, and then everything is on the list, if the conditions proposed by the "godfather" are not met. In my opinion, the diplomacy of the Americans has reached heights or, on the contrary, has sunk to the level of a gang of gangsters. What business can Russia have with such a government and what kind of entry can there be in this gangster association? Moreover, Russia is not alone, but in a coalition with countries that really want to fight ISIS and which have a better chance of winning than the Americans with their rotten politics ...


    Nothing will help them anymore. The stupidity is off the charts. Yes, to put it mildly, look at their FACES! carry-shmerry, ubama-shmabama... They drove the world into a corner; everything, everything was set on fire, and the coal is thrown to Putin - catch it! What kind of bolt??? What, our Warriors should return home in “two hundred”? Because of some of these?
  63. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 20
    Old Kerry is THREATENING us, SHADOW SHIT SICK MONKEY??? am

    The Mattress Air Force is not familiar with the radii and altitudes of the S-400?
    There's no point in showing off - you'll have to answer for the market!
    MORONS PIECE, BL...! stop
  64. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 23
    One thing can be said... arrogant scoundrels.
  65. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 23
    Can they even come up with anything new? This is some kind of deja vu. Again the Mujahideen with stingers who came from nowhere (it is known, of course, that the striped ones will try). But they were just a little mistaken. The S-300 and Mig-31 complexes can easily organize a no-fly zone not only over Syria. They will work on caravans, on headquarters, and on warehouses. The main thing is not to delay the process. The solutions take a long time to resolve in the mattress. They never gave dill a weapon, either directly or to the quiet man. Therefore, they can see the shores. The transfer of modern MANPADS to ISIS - well, this would be a direct declaration of war. And then the initiators will have to go to the toilet carefully...
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 23: 09
      And we shipped 300 of them somewhere, with a coefficient of 0.7, a hundred of them will not return - and who will fall?
  66. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 23
    Hamier Anglo-Saxon.
  67. -3
    29 September 2015 21: 23
    In the port of Tartus, the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning docked.
    http://agitpro.su/v-portu-tartus-prishvartovalsya-kitajskij-avianosec-lyaonin/
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 21: 54
      Nonsense. It has already been said that this is fake.
  68. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 25
    And this leaky gray-haired mutota understands that we will work to destroy this mattress island????
  69. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 26
    From MANPADS, these monkeys will only be able to get a Su-25, and that’s not a fact (it’s really not that easy to shoot down a cast-iron plane), Su-24/34 can easily operate without entering the MANPADS’ kill zone)) So this is empty chatter. As I understand it, around the air base in Latakia, everything is also more or less cleared; nothing threatens our birds during takeoff/landing. The only embodiment of the threat of this presumptuous bastard is the supply of short- or medium-range air defense systems to the Islamists, and together with the crews, and this is a real shame for which you can definitely get slammed.
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 22: 47
      Now all new and modernized versions of military helicopters and attack aircraft are equipped with the Vitebsk electronic warfare system, since 15, it seems that an even newer and more effective version of it has arrived, or another system... it will be impossible to shoot down existing MANPADS
  70. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 32
    Quote: maiman61
    Kerry officially stated that if Russia is not the six of the United States in Syria, the United States will arm ISIS MANPADS against Russian aircraft! MANPADS will be designated by the US aircraft as "their own", and our aircraft will be "alien" and will shoot down.

    Will Israeli planes detect it? I am afraid that in this case the epidemic of mass “deaths” of aircraft may reach Israel.
  71. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 32
    Yesterday, like millions of Russians, I spent the evening and part of the night in front of the TV screen... Definitely, Vladimir Vladimirovich, won a psychological victory over complacent American politicians and their obliging Western vassals, because, according to our glorious ancestor, the warrior and diplomat saint Blessed Alexander Nevsky - “God is not in power, but in truth!” That is why our principled position, overcoming the lies and deception of the Western media, is finding more and more supporters in the world, and the United States is forced to negotiate with the leader, whose country they declared one of the world’s threats, “isolated and torn to shreds”...Putin is stone cold. I left no stone unturned in simulating the fight against ISIS by the United States and the coalition it created... the time has come for Russia to beat ISIS terrorists for real with the hands of Assad’s troops and Syrian Kurds, Iranian volunteers with our wonderful weapons!
  72. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 33
    Kerry said Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"

    Unless, of course, these Washington bastards have already managed to arm ISIS with stingers. Which is quite possible.
  73. -2
    29 September 2015 21: 35
    Quote: Hedgehog
    Quote: Baikonur
    Do not be shy to beat the teeth!

    According to the Arab press, Russian planes brutally destroyed the "Azerbaijani battalion" from the ISIS troops. destroyed from 120 to 150 people .. bandits.

    Azerbaijanis are Shiites! Before you fart, study the topic, otherwise you’ll get your panties dirty.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 22: 01
      Quote: Wheels
      Azerbaijanis are Shiites!

      About 85%, about 15% are Sunnis, and so, they say, even Zoroastrians and Jews meet request
  74. DPN
    0
    29 September 2015 21: 39
    Kerry made it clear that Russia will face the same fate as the USSR, the United States will overwhelm the IGL with stingers. This, of course, sucks. These Yankee scoundrels are hiding behind the Ocean as always.
  75. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 40
    According to numerous predictions of the holy elders and Vanga, we will soon see the United States falling into the abyss of hell... and nothing can stop this process...
  76. +3
    29 September 2015 21: 45
    Everyone falls - airplanes, helicopters, missiles... even talkative secretaries of state))))
  77. -2
    29 September 2015 21: 46
    It doesn’t just seem to us that they are against us, it doesn’t really seem like WE ARE PARTNERS.
    Do we really have no more compelling arguments to address the “partners” other than soft words, so that at least their mongrels would shut their mouths and be afraid even to p.u.k.n.u.t. so as not to tear their sciatic nerve.
  78. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 49
    Make sure America doesn't see skyscrapers falling.
    And so this old provocateur can only shoot birds in the sky over Washington with his MANPADS or scare the Papuans, I think our specialists will take into account the bitter experience of Afghanistan and Chechnya; there are methods and possibilities of bombing at heights unattainable for MANPADS.
  79. +2
    29 September 2015 21: 51
    And the mattress will soon see its falling dollar!!! wink feel laughing am
  80. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 54
    If we don’t find options to unite to fight against the Islamic State militants, and Russia begins to fight them alone, guess what will happen? Russia will become their target. Russia will see both people with MANPADS and planes falling from the sky. (Kerry)

    An open hint from an old blackmailer about the entry of Soviet troops into Afghanistan, when the mattress shop supplied the spirits with Stingers to fight Soviet aviation: if Russia does not listen to Uncle Sam and itself or the coalition it created begins to actively destroy ISIS from the air, then with the help of the mattress from the thugs ISIS will have Stingers again (in addition to the existing American weapons)! Such an ally (together with the coalition he created) in the fight against ISIS has emerged and for more than a year now he has been waging such an “irreconcilable” war with it that the thugs are seizing more and more territories! As they say, God save me from such friends (allies), and I myself will get rid of my enemies!
  81. +3
    29 September 2015 21: 55
    With his remark, he confirmed close contact with the terrorists of the Islamic State and other formations and the coordination of their actions with the US police. That's why their planes don't crash.
  82. 0
    29 September 2015 21: 56
    If crests with MANPADS suddenly appear in Syria or Iraq, as in 2008 in South Ossetia, Chechnya, and Abkhazia, I will not be surprised. These bastards will crawl out of their skin to curry favor and lick the American ass.
  83. +6
    29 September 2015 22: 03
    Quote: 4ekist
    If crests with MANPADS suddenly appear in Syria or Iraq, as in 2008 in South Ossetia, Chechnya, and Abkhazia, I will not be surprised. These bastards will crawl out of their skin to curry favor and lick the American ass.

    There is a feeling that if at least one of our planes falls from American MANPADS (God forbid), then it will be a completely different story.... correctly, VVP said there is no longer the strength to endure the news of this den.
  84. +3
    29 September 2015 22: 07
    We say ISIS - we mean NATO, we say NATO - we mean ISIS
  85. +1
    29 September 2015 22: 09
    Interesting: Didn’t anyone tell Kerry that the Islamists have anti-ship missiles and there are a lot of mines floating in the sea since World War 2? Otherwise, you can see sinking American aircraft carriers and other American ships and merchant ships.
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  87. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 13
    Is he the one who is scaring people with criminals, the crooked degenerate?
    Have you decided to frighten the Great Power with your pocket bandits?
    There will be, there will be planes for you, you crooked-faced merikos.
  88. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 14
    With this statement, Kerry admitted that ISIS is their brainchild, which they cherish, and their statements about the fight against ISIS are like a sign on a fence.
  89. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 21
    What a scoundrel.
  90. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 25
    Don’t worry, everything is loaded, the forks are galvanized, there is an antistatic agent - the adversary is not destined to frighten those born in the USSR.
  91. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 26
    It’s not right for a bird to fly with such conclusions. Although this is understandable, he is not the president, he will say that he was foolish, saying that nothing depends on me anyway. They have no principles.
    The rhetoric is so brazen. Here you should write to Rogozin on Twitter: “they say, the Americans are not afraid that you will anger ISIS and somewhere in neutral waters, right under your nose, they will sink your destroyer, for example, from under the water, only the periscope and you will see a bearded fair-haired woman face in a vest."
  92. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 27
    Something tells me that STGA, in the near future, will see its fall from the hole it dug with its own hands and will be consigned to oblivion by the entire civilized world."
  93. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 27
    Per.dun Kerry will soon see HIS downed planes over Syria, you fucking donkey.
  94. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 37
    They (Russia) will begin to blacken. And they, along with Assad, will turn into a magnet for Islamists.
    ..This "song" is good...
    Start from the beginning..!
  95. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 44
    To teach a fool is to spoil him.
    Our airplanes are too much for a goat-horned creature.
    laughing
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  97. 0
    29 September 2015 23: 06
    Kerry said that Russia could see its falling planes.... yes, this could very well happen, only they will fall from above onto the F-35, and in the sights will be its destroyed fuselage and as in in the well-known song “Kerry’s grandson will walk (at best) on the damned ground, without a pressure helmet on his head”... or even worse in a plastic coffin!!!
  98. 0
    29 September 2015 23: 22
    "Russia could become the next target of ISIS militants." Russia must constantly remind that northern Africa, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, were approaching Iran - they were blown up by the USA and their European allies + Australia, and Russia is trying to protect itself from ISIS. We need to hammer on this topic every day, with the help of different media, but only in a reasoned manner, without Zhirinovism. wink
  99. 0
    29 September 2015 23: 55
    Kerry said Russia "can see its falling planes in Syria"

    America may not see its military advisers burned in ISIS camps after practicing "Pinocchio"
  100. 0
    29 September 2015 23: 57
    Oh, this America, like itself and the entire stupefied West, got it into their heads that it was necessary to achieve the departure of Bashar Assad at any cost, and then Obama and his party won in the eyes of the Americans. For them, the hundreds of thousands of people who died from the actions of the baboon Obama mean nothing at all just because of this bad desire: to overthrow Assad.

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