Drian: French aircraft will continue "in self defense" to strike at the IG

The head of the French Defense Ministry Le Drian said that the Air Force will continue to strike at the IG facilities in Syria, reports RIA News.

Earlier, French Prime Minister Manuel Waltz, stressed that the bombing of the positions of the "Islamic state" is carried out "in self-defense" according to the principle: the more militants die in Syria, the fewer they will return to France.

“Other attacks will follow, other actions will follow in order to protect us and to prevent the training camps for foreign fighters from continuing to function, releasing terrorists ready to return to France and Europe”, Said Drian.

Commenting on the actions of France, the representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, said recently that "the airstrikes of the French Air Force in Syria without the sanction of the UN Security Council and the consent of the country's legitimate government are contrary to international law."

Comments

[Alexey Boukin]

You would think about "self-defense" of your territory, when not thousands of refugees, but millions, will flee to Europe.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

according to the principle: the more militants die in Syria, the less they will return to France.

The Israeli version .... To make more victims? And the most important thing from far away ... All of us (Russia) will be spoiled by the paddlers ... Well, let's see more!

[North wind]

It would not be bad if Syrian air defense shot down a couple of French planes, they would immediately forget about their self-defense on foreign territory without the permission of the Syrian government

[Bayonet]

Quote: North Wind

It wouldn’t be bad if Syrian air defense shot down a couple of French planes

So they are ISIS bombing !!! What did you blow with a completely northerly wind!

[mvg]

Does ISIS "live" so far from Syria? Or in the cities controlled by ISIS, all residents, without exception, support this movement? Children, women will die, infrastructure collapses .. That will only anger the indigenous population. EVERYONE is used to understanding ONLY strength. With what fright France and the like are bombing a sovereign country? For the benefit of"? Nobody forbade to defend. It is necessary to shoot down, definitely! What, nafik, "the less is left, the better"? You just need to "light up" Rafalka in the international arena ... For sales. Yes, and to show that such a force as France has a place to be ... Frogs, plin.

[Bayonet]

Quote: mvg

Children, women, infrastructure will perish .. That will only anger the indigenous population. EVERYONE is used to understanding ONLY strength. What fright France and the like bombing a sovereign country?

Enough to invent all sorts of nonsense! Nobody is going to arrange carpet bombing of cities! Blows are inflicted on the camps and positions of ISIS! Are you sorry for them ???

[Pissarro]

You don’t hold Igilovites for idiots at all, terrorists always set up all their headquarters, warehouses and camps in residential buildings, ideally near some school or hospital. Western flyers bomb torn pickups to simulate the fight against terror. Moreover, not a single bomb fell on columns trucks, days and nights on the road carrying stolen oil to Turkey, which it is willingly buying up. That is, nobody is going to stop the real sources of income of terrorists

[plow]

So they are ISIS bombing !!! What did you blow with a completely northerly wind

Do you also allow strangers to host strangers at home without permission?
If the French acted as Russia, the legitimate authorities of Syria would have welcomed this. And so this is shameless interference in the affairs of another country without clear goals.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Arandir

Do you also allow strangers to host strangers at home without permission?

This is if you are at home, and if you were expelled and someone wants to strike these enemies?

Quote: Arandir

If the French acted as Russia, the legitimate authorities of Syria would have welcomed this.

Are they outraged?

Quote: Arandir

. And so this is shameless interference in the affairs of another country without clear goals.

"The French Air Force bombarded the positions of the terrorist organization 'Islamic State' in Syria. Air strikes were carried out on targets in accordance with intelligence collected in the past two weeks," - this was reported on Sunday at the Elysee Palace.
So where are the "obscure goals" here?

[Xergey]

Imagine for a moment that the planes of other countries fly in and start bombing the city, because according to intelligence data, the militants leaked to us, is that in the order of things? so in Syria, who allowed them to fly into Syrian space this time, and who allowed to bomb cities are two, so think about it.

[Bayonet]

Quote: KSergey

Imagine for a moment that planes of other countries fly in and start bombing the city, because according to intelligence data, our militants leaked,

I have long gone out of childhood to represent this. What kind of permission are we talking about in territories not controlled by official authorities, captured by bandits with whom these same official authorities are fighting ??? I would thank for the help. By the way, no one gave a link to where the Syrian authorities protest and which cities were bombed.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Bayonet

and which cities were bombed.

Well minus - this is understandable, a style of thinking. But still, what cities were the French bombing there? If there is nothing to answer, go to step one

[Bayonet]

Quote: MIKHAN

The Israeli version .... To make more victims? And most importantly, from far away.

What's not to like? Putin also calls for this, to beat ISIS there, and not wait for the bandits to start returning home! So who did you regret when you wrote about the "big sacrifices" - ISIS? More than a strange position ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: MIKHAN

The Israeli version .... To make more victims? And most importantly, from far away.

What's not to like? Putin also calls for this, to beat ISIS there, and not wait for the bandits to start returning home! So who did you regret when you wrote about the "big sacrifices" - ISIS? More than a strange position ...

Victims mainly among civilians will be ...
And Putin calls to beat ISIS (their leaders ..) and cut off funding ... Do not distort the respected! Everyone understood everything perfectly and we have experience ....

[Bayonet]

Quote: MIKHAN

Victims mainly among civilians will be ...

Why's that? Oh yes, it is only we who know how to fight, and the rest are suckers.

Quote: MIKHAN

And Putin calls to beat ISIS (their leaders ..)

By the way, Putin was not talking about the ringleaders, but about those 2000 thugs who joined the ranks of ISIS from the countries of the former USSR and he really would not want them to come back.

[Kasym]

As VVP said that such actions are not legitimate without the approval of the Syrian government. And is this Hollande not bothered that his planes may not return - there, on legal grounds, the base of the RF Armed Forces is being "equipped" !? I would advise VVP to pull up the S-400, and in general create an echeloned air defense to cover the airbase - let them fly without permission later! There, even the Jews will not have time to fly to Iran; they will have to fly too much. Therefore, they were all alarmed.
But the French are something; and why do they need these pictures !? As if the igilovites-emigrants did not arrange another massacre. Eh, where did their De Gaulles go? Their actions are similar to "mark". “We also took part!” - then they will shout at every step and claim the victory. Oh, these Europeans, American henpecked, it would be better if they turned on their brains. They would recruit "normal" refugees (those who have lost their relatives, at home; those who want revenge), give grandmothers, train them and send them to fight for their land, and they would not send their own soldiers. No, they are going to stir this aspen nest further in order to get even more refugees ... Are they advertising their Rafali or what?

[plow]

Permissions need to be asked. That's the problem.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: alexey bukin

You would think about "self-defense" of your territory, when not thousands of refugees, but millions, will flee to Europe.

What for ? They simply declare a humanitarian catastrophe and hang another generation of Arabs around Europe ...

[vodolaz]

And before that, they, along with the mattress toppers, supported the Syrian "opposition" with the same enthusiasm. Nobody has political will in the EU.

[Roman1970]

Earlier, French Prime Minister Manuel Waltz, stressed that the bombing of the positions of the "Islamic state" is carried out "in self-defense" according to the principle: the more militants die in Syria, the fewer they will return to France.

From my point of view, the logic is somehow perverted ...

[Penetrator]

Quote: Roman1970

Earlier, French Prime Minister Manuel Waltz, stressed that the bombing of the positions of the "Islamic state" is carried out "in self-defense" according to the principle: the more militants die in Syria, the fewer they will return to France.

From my point of view, the logic is somehow perverted ...

Normal, by the way, is logic. Russia acts on the same principle.

[Good me]

Quote: Penetrator

Normal, by the way, is logic. Russia acts on the same principle.

Which, in general, was voiced, in particular, by Putin at the UN ...

[jjj]

Russia in Syria is acting at the invitation of the legitimate Syrian government. And these are two big differences

[Good me]

What kind of abomination is this, small, wound up? Everything is minus, minus ...

Catch, tear off my ears

[andj61]

Quote: Good Me

What kind of abomination is this, small, wound up? Everything is minus, minus ...

Catch, tear off my ears

I really wanted to sympathize with you, looked at your comments - for 15 posts today there are a lot of pluses and only two minuses? In your opinion is it minus, minus (that is, 2 times)? Minus - this is when at least one post at least five or six minuses! I’m not even talking about Israeli regulars IN, they can row in a day and a couple of hundred minuses.

[Good me]

Quote: andj61

I really wanted to sympathize with you, looked at your comments - on 15 posts today there are a lot of pluses and only two minuses? In your opinion is it minus, minus (that is, 2 times)? what Minus is when there is at least five or six minuses on one post!

I'm not talking about the number of "minuses" in my specific address, but about the overall picture, and it is in this topic.

Someone clearly "walked" through the comments, placing the cons ...

[plow]

I don’t see anything normal. Everyone is not lazy, or rather unfriendly neighbors: the Israelis, the Turks, the Americans who brewed porridge, and now, still not nepreisheymanorukov French, fly around your country bombing whom they deem necessary without asking permission from the legitimate government. Even worse, at first these figures declared the legitimate government illegitimate, armed the rebels to the teeth, supported them politically, with finances. The country is completely destroyed. To the aid of these rebels, they have already brought some kind of utter idiots of isles.
By the way, the legal government has air defense systems. But shooting down unwanted flyers means declaring war on very numerous and powerful enemies. All understand and use it.
Well, what's so incomprehensible?

[little girl15]

What a perverse? They also embody the Libyan version.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Roman1970

From my point of view, the logic is somehow perverted ...

"More than two thousand militants, immigrants from the former Soviet Union, are in Syria. There is a threat that they will return to us. So, rather than waiting for them to return to us, it is better to help Assad fight them there, in Syria." Putin.
In your opinion it turns out - also perverted?

[Sigizbarn]

You can ask a question:
You got cockroaches at home and your neighbors don't like it.
How do you respect your dear neighbor who has broken your door and is starting to set fire to your kitchen?
After all, he just doesn’t want the cockroaches to move to him later.
Maybe a neighbor who offers you help and gives dichlorvos is better?
Think about it!

[Penetrator]

.. bombardment of the positions of the “Islamic State” is carried out “for self-defense” on the principle: the more militants die in Syria, the less they will return to France.

Late, they are already in France. Start bombing Paris.

[Styx]

If you count from Libya, then already about 4 years they should bomb. And not only Paris, but also Calais with Lapedusa.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Penetrator

Late, they are already in France. Start bombing Paris.

It is not prudent, somehow, to bomb your own capital ...

Let, already the British, Paris bomb, and the French London ...

[AdekvatNICK]

Oland is also finalizing the deadline. With such a failed policy, there is no chance even in the first round.

[kil 31]

“Other attacks will follow, other actions will follow to protect us and to prevent the camps for training foreign fighters to continue to function, releasing terrorists who are ready to return to France and Europe,” Drian said. It will be amusing to see how they bomb the NATO ally Turkey. Their territory is full of militant training camps.

[jjj]

And mind you, Turkey has already stopped bombing the Kurds after the recent meeting of Erdogan and Putin in Moscow

[olimpiada15]

How not to jinx it!

[roskot]

“Other attacks will follow, other actions will follow to protect us and to prevent the training camps for foreign fighters from continuing to function, releasing terrorists who are ready to return to France and Europe,”

Caught grabbed. Militants are already in France and in Europe.

[vladimirw]

Maria Zakharova recently stated that "the French air strikes in Syria without the sanction of the UN Security Council and the consent of the country's legitimate government are contrary to international law."
Yes, they do not want to ask anyone for permission, de facto the West has arrogated to itself the right to bomb where it sees fit.
few refugees to them, still want

[Styx]

Only, people are very sorry, and the sight of the skeletons of their destroyed houses plunges into sorrow: how many lives have already been distorted and will still be awful!

[Bayonet]

Quote: vladimirw

Yes, they do not want to ask anyone for permission

A few days ago, the topic of alleged air strikes by our aircraft against ISIS was actively discussed here. How much enthusiasm was and what is characteristic, no one remembered the sanction of the UN Security Council If the use of our aircraft really was, then it turns out this is also not legal?

[Styx]

And Assad - the guy from the street, passed by ??? Indescribable Chuhna in your comment. Maybe Afghan also write?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Styx

Indescribable Chuhna in your comment. Maybe Afghan also write?

Afghan with it, talking about Syria. Let's not drag the battle of Kulikovo here, then we will definitely get "chukhnya" Here they are indignant why Syria does not shoot down French planes, and WHY if they attack LIH on its side?

[Styx]

I thought you would explain to me why they are indignant. Maybe you are still more specialized in this matter, or at the school "Swan, Cancer and Pike" you passed the literature classroom? How do you imagine all this: if even with a centralized command there are mistakes, then "where I want - I go there" will not lead to fatality? But.....

Quote: Bayonet

no one remembered the sanction of the UN Security Council. If the use of our aircraft really was, then it turns out this is also not legal?

It was your speech about this, and a comparison with Afghanistan is much more appropriate than with the Kulikovo field. No need to wag afterwards or bring the thought to the end immediately.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Styx

How do you imagine all this: if even with a centralized command there are mistakes, then "where I want - I will go there" will not lead to fatality?

Both in Afghanistan and in Chechnya it happened that they were smacking at their own people, it's not a secret. Give me a link to the material where Syria is protesting about the French attacks on ISIS, there was a fuss here, but the Syrians are silent! By the way, none of the civilians was hurt. So "wherever I want - I go there," is not the topic.

[plow]

Here they are indignant why Syria does not shoot down French planes, and WHY if they attack LIH on its side?

Here is stubborn. A thousand times the people are right who have come up with such wise proverbs: "the clever will not ask, the fool will not understand", "stubbornness is the dignity of donkeys."

[Bayonet]

Quote: Arandir

Here is a stubborn one.

Well, what is it for?

[Pissarro]

Aviation acts on the side of the ground forces only in one case, if it acts in concert with them. But the bombings do not understand where and do not understand what, with the impossibility of assessing the result and without ground adjustment, this is an imitation of activity for political points and drank the military budget. within a year of the notorious coalition of 60 countries, headed by Obama, ISIS only successfully expanded, crushing the Syrian army and repelling the city from Iraq

[padded jacket]

Quote: Pissarro

As a result of actions during the year of the notorious coalition of 60 countries, led by Obama, ISIS only successfully expands, putting pressure on the Syrian army and repelling the city from Iraq

Looking at all this clowning of the so-called coalition under US command, I get the strong impression that it is not bombing ISIS, al-Qaeda, but the government armies of Syria and Iraq.

[Pissarro]

I think the coalition is so brazenly not firing, but they can easily throw up ISIS aerial intelligence data, while unloading the ammunition in Syrian sand and asking taxpayers to adjust their budget

[padded jacket]

Quote: Pissarro

I think so brazenly the coalition does not burn,

You see, the so-called coalition has the opportunity to deliver strikes from a long range of 200-300 kilometers due to the limits of visual visibility and they can’t observe anything else (for example, I strongly doubt that Syria and Iraq have air defense radars in service) when a rocket hits the troops of Syria or Iraq, I think it’s very difficult to determine who the United States fired at or the IS terrorists from the MLRS, and no one will find out in the battle.

[Pissarro]

The effectiveness of such a strike against an unsteady target is zero, and the cost of such a rocket and an expected target is not comparable, like nailing up nails with a microscope, and throwing the microscope from the 9th floor onto a nail

[padded jacket]

Quote: Pissarro

The effectiveness of such a strike on an unsteady target is zero

On the fast-moving, no doubt, but if it’s a blow to the cities according to the location (group) of troops, then the result will be different. Moreover, there have long been SDs if you are not in the know. And of course, no one will have to invent an individual person to shoot an expensive rocket

[Pissarro]

Grumbling around cities is fraught with casualties among civilians whose ISIS video corpses are guaranteed to use in its propaganda. And in the conditions of the Syrian war, all troop locations on both sides are in urban areas and everything usually boils down to sluggish street fights. from the land effectively, which is what the Syrian Air Force is doing. And the horseradish that arrives knows where the tomogawk knows how the horseradish is a waste of expensive ammunition in my opinion. But I’ll lie down.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Pissarro

Aviation acts on the side of the ground forces only in one case, if it acts in concert with them

But what about attacks on targets in the enemy’s rear lines?

[GUKTU]

There are two reasons for military intervention: 1. The UN mandate, 2) the invitation (request for help) of the state. In our case, No. 2

[2224460]

"French air strikes in Syria without the sanction of the UN Security Council and the consent of the legitimate government of the country are contrary to international law."

It reminds me of the "league of nations" before the 2nd World War, the "league" was, but there was no sense. Everyone decided and blew his own tune. So now, guardians "in self-defense", the Turks are bombing the Kurds, insolently the Saxons democracy is moved, and that the UN, only "concerned" and "warned".

[Borz]

And where is Syria’s air defense? Why does it allow flights of military aircraft of an unfriendly country? Maybe I don’t know something? Why the Turkish F-4 was shot down by Syrian air defense intelligence flight rather french fighter-bombers-no?

[Good me]

Quote: Borz

And where is Syria’s air defense? Why does it allow flights of military aircraft of an unfriendly country? Maybe I don’t know something? Why was the Turkish F-4 shot down by Syrian air defense during a reconnaissance flight, but the French fighter-bombers didn’t?

Perhaps the French Air Force is bombing ISIS in areas uncontrolled by Assad where there is no air defense cover ...

Do not forget about 70% of the territories under ISIS and other al-Nusrams. And these are huge territories, albeit largely desert and sparsely populated.

I note, THIS IS ONLY AN ASSUMPTION. And how is it really there .

[Bayonet]

Quote: Good Me

I note, THIS IS ONLY AN ASSUMPTION. And how is it really there

And as a matter of fact, it would be interesting to learn from the Syrian side. We argue here, but what about the actions of France the Syrian leadership? I tried to find - there is nothing, can someone throw a link?

[Pissarro]

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in an interview with several Russian media at once stated that the coalition, led by the United States and leading the fight against the militants of the Islamic State, "doesn’t succeed." In his opinion, this is an “illusory anti-terrorist coalition”, which “has no serious desire to fight terrorism”.

“The reality is that, despite the fact that this coalition has begun its operation, ISIS continues to expand. They do not succeed. This coalition does not affect the situation “on earth,” Assad said.

According to him, countries such as Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, as well as France, the United States and other Western states, "patronizing terrorists, cannot themselves fight terrorism." “You cannot simultaneously be against terrorists and with them,” Assad said.



Read more at RBC:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/16/09/2015/55f8e52f9a794734908fb474

[Bayonet]

Quote: Pissarro

Read more at RBC:

You show me the Syrians who were indignant with the French blow to ISIS (because of which the whole fuss rose here), and I saw all this. If there is nothing, then thanks and on this

[Pissarro]

So no one is indignant and no one is grateful. Neither cold nor hot. They want to engage in empty activities. What Bashar said. Neither ISIS nor Assad have any harm or benefit from them. And you can’t cross borders without UN sanctions or without an invitation from a legitimate government, Putin clearly said, poked their nose into international law

[Bayonet]

Quote: Pissarro

So no one is indignant and no one is grateful. Neither cold nor hot

So no one ??? Read the comments - they call for the downing of French planes for having offended ISIS without demand!
Here's an example:
North wind (1) SU Today, 10:22 ↑
It would not be bad if Syrian air defense would bring down a couple of French planes.

pexotinec (1) SU Today, 10:45 AM
The frog plots are shining again, well, "Patsir-S" I think will cool their ardor.

Volzhanin (5) SU Today, 11:38
ABOUT! Such a chance to test our modern weapons in the fighting!
It is necessary, taking this opportunity, C300,400,500 and all new developments to run immediately on the paddles and other dirty tricks.

You wrote - "If they want to engage in empty activities, let them do it. What Bashar said." Well, if Assad doesn’t mind, why are they so turned on here as if they flew to us and someone’s chicken coop was bombed with a fool?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Borz

Why was the Turkish F-4 shot down by Syrian air defense during a reconnaissance flight, but the French fighter-bombers didn’t?

Well, for example, such a situation - attacked you (God forbid, of course), wave with a brazen opponent. Then a third appeared and also drove into his forehead. Will you put this third Fingal, is it like on your side?

[plow]

And where is Syria’s air defense? Why does it allow flights of military aircraft from an unfriendly country?

And why did they invent rockets? They bomb without entering the airspace of Syria. This is what the Turks and Israelis do.

[kizhe]

Heck! Again a hole in the asphalt.

[V.ic]

No wonder the informal symbol of France was the "Gallic" cockerel. "Roosters" they are, in a word, in the hero's chamber at the state godfather.

[barik92090]

The perversions accepted by the Western "civilization" as the norm have completely deprived the sanity of their "elite" of sanity, logic, and responsibility for their insane actions before their duped peoples. Collapse is inevitable.

[pexotinec]

The frog plots are shining again, well, "Patsir-S" I think will cool their ardor.

[aszzz888]

Maria Zakharova recently stated that "the French air strikes in Syria without the sanction of the UN Security Council and the consent of the country's legitimate government are contrary to international law."

Comrade Maria.
To our regret, they piled everything in large numbers on all sanctions of the UN Security Council and other international rights and institutions.
As they bombed when they want, and who they want, so it will continue.

[EFRSTR]

Smeared.

[Volzhanin]

ABOUT! Such a chance to test our modern weapons in the fighting!
It is necessary, taking this opportunity, C300,400,500 and all new developments to run immediately on the paddles and other dirty tricks.

Which plane entered the Syrian zone - immediately destroy, no matter who and what flew there. We need training, help to the Syrians, gavnyuk - science.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Volzhanin

Which plane entered the Syrian zone - immediately destroy, no matter who and what flew there. We need training, help to the Syrians, gavnyuk - science.

[The boat]

Quote: Bayonet

Volzhanin! Thanks for the support!

total war in the air! "Above all ISIS cloudless sky ..."

[Bayonet]

Quote: Das Boot

total war in the air! "Above all ISIS cloudless sky ..."

Yes, it seems like they want ...

[Vladimir 1964]

“Other attacks will follow, other actions will follow to protect us and to prevent the camps for training foreign fighters to continue to function, releasing terrorists who are ready to return to France and Europe,” Drian said.

On this occasion, the French expert Eric Denes spoke quite correctly:

“When someone says that air strikes in Syria will prevent the terrorist attacks in France, then we are talking, to put it mildly, about total nonsense,” said Denes.

And as I have already commented, there is nothing to add to this. Except maybe Marie Lee Penn. (own repeat from yesterday)

I have no words.

[rotmistr60]

carried out "for self-defense"

This phrase has not stopped touching for two days. The French under Hollande, and started under Sarkozy, there is a stopper for each barrel. Either they are afraid to be late for sharing (although it's too early to share something), or they are trying to show that France is the first player in the international arena. How are the coalition bombing and what kind of sense is already said, negotiated.

[The boat]

Quote: rotmistr60

or trying to show that France is the first player in the international arena. How are the coalition bombing and what kind of sense is already said, negotiated.

in Marseille I saw a grimy Negro beggar with plywood "my house was bombed." Frankly speaking, if it had been written differently, in the style of our "fire victims" or "give it to the drip" from the subway, it would not be so hooked. I understand that the arsenal of cardboard boxes at the prof. Beggars is quite rich, but - "my house was bombed" somehow ... The billboard in front of the Elysee Palace suggests itself.

[nazar_0753]

French Defense Minister Le Drian said the Air Force will continue to strike at IS facilities in Syria

Demonstration performance of the French aircraft industry, a la "look how our planes fly, buy French aircraft"

[Koronik]

Drian: French aircraft will continue to strike ISIS in self-defense

And there’s no one to explain to anyone, no agreement with the UN that we want to turn back, and that’s the paddling pool, and that speaks of others. No need to specifically send the bulk of the refugees to France, and so that most of them were warriors of the Isis.

[afrikanez]

It is high time for France to finish looking for various pretexts to bomb someone. It would be better if they closed their little newspapers, such as "Charlie" and the like, so as not to nolat the already hot atmosphere reigning in the country.