Media: the Syrians are in dire need of new tanks

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The Syrian government forces, fighting for a long time with terrorists from various groups, suffered heavy losses in armored vehicles: during the war years hundreds of vehicles turned into scrap metal. Unfortunately, a significant percentage of them are Tanks T-72. Writes about this Messenger of Mordovia.



“The situation is so critical that more and more often in combat formations of the most combat-ready units, which previously used exclusively seventy-twos, we now see old T-55,” writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.

These tanks are easy to learn, they are easy to repair in field conditions. However, they are easy and hit, even outdated anti-tank ammunition. The lack of multi-layered armor makes cars vulnerable.

Therefore, the issue of replenishing the Syrian tank park is by far the most relevant.

According to the author, “there can be no talk of any supply of modern T-90 tanks, since the Syrians need a more familiar and, therefore, mastered technology without any problems.” He suggests that T-72AB and T-72B1 be considered as “candidates”.

“The first cars are well known to the Syrians, but it seems that the T-72B1 will also be mastered as soon as possible. The main thing is that these tanks undergo at least minimal refinement for local specifics, ”writes Romanov.

According to him, tanks should have at least “lattice protivokumulyatnye screens” and the protection of the commander, using heavy machine gun NSVT.

“The Syrians would also have been able to use upgraded T-55M, T-62M, T-55MB and T-62MVs in terms of survivability, but according to some reports, these tanks were disposed of during the previous leadership of the Ministry of Defense,” concludes Romanov.

Media: the Syrians are in dire need of new tanks
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  1. +48
    29 September 2015 09: 42
    They will deliver ours, they will certainly help. In Syria, we defend the distant frontiers of the motherland, good from evil.
    1. jjj
      +11
      29 September 2015 09: 45
      Now it’s going to be more fun.
      1. +17
        29 September 2015 10: 36
        Quote: RuslanNN
        good from evil.

        inspired by our specialists))
        at the end of the century, took and subverted
        an evil person - a good person!
        from a grenade launcher, slap his goat,
        that is, good is stronger than evil !!!
        1. +18
          29 September 2015 10: 45
          Quote: gispanec
          that is, good is stronger than evil !!!
          Good must be in camouflage
          With a rifle, a muzzle in black soot,
          With a bag of grenades and an ax.
          It will come, knocking Kevlar,
          Breathing tobacco fumes -
          You do not joke with such good.
          It, the villain’s dream disturbing,
          In the asphalt put his face
          He’ll give a boot over his kidneys,
          Butt in the back of the head
          And abuse the corpse
          At the same time touching us.
          You, my young reader,
          Peaceful admirer,
          Please beware of trouble:
          Having built a terrible face,
          Don’t be afraid of goodness - be it too,
          Replenish the bright ranks!
          1. +3
            29 September 2015 11: 47
            As far as I remember, Putin said that Russia will increase aid to Syria, and I think that ships with tanks are already going to Syria. if not then will be released soon
        2. 0
          29 September 2015 19: 08
          Great poems))) ...
      2. +1
        29 September 2015 13: 39
        Yes, undoubtedly, but first, a strategy of combat use will be developed specifically on the Syrian front, then training of Syrian crews and command, and after that, the transfer of the equipment itself. True, it's not a fact that most of all this has been done, but it is not yet visible on the fronts, apparently there will be "SURPRISE".
    2. +20
      29 September 2015 09: 46
      For the holy cause do not mind .... yes the Russians?
      1. +9
        29 September 2015 09: 50
        Quote:
        “The Syrians would also have been able to use upgraded T-55M, T-62M, T-55MB and T-62MVs in terms of survivability, but according to some reports, these tanks were disposed of during the previous leadership of the Ministry of Defense,” concludes Romanov.


        Keywords! Disposed of! What we do not keep, when we lose, we cry. These machines could still play their "song" on the distant lines. I'm not talking about costs ..
        1. 0
          29 September 2015 12: 35
          Quote: Bombardier
          Keywords! Recycled!

          Maybe not disposed of yet ...
          Half the world operates these tanks, they and spare parts are in demand. Why dispose of? Although perdyukov was a harmful donkey in the military, but the old 55s are the same money ...
          1. 0
            29 September 2015 13: 39
            Quote: Alekseev
            Why dispose of? Although perdyukov was a harmful donkey in the military, but the old 55s are money ...

            Well, why drank the Su-17 and MiG-27?
      2. +21
        29 September 2015 09: 53
        Quote: Captain Air Force
        For the holy cause do not mind .... yes the Russians?

        It’s not a pity ... But Russia takes all this into her own hands! And this is serious ...
      3. +9
        29 September 2015 09: 55
        Well, how could I not help an ally. Holy thing!
      4. +11
        29 September 2015 10: 04
        Quote: Captain Air Force
        For the holy cause do not mind .... yes the Russians?

        Well, the GDP for Syria is going through more than many internal problems, so that the tanks will give as much as necessary. Apparently no one doubts this already.
        The article showed that again Serdyukov’s legacy was croaking, and Serdyukov unsinkable, like in Christ’s bosom, smiles and doesn’t even twitch his eyes.
        So I would like, I would really like that we would not only help Syria, but also fight our troubles. Holy thing, isn't it?
        1. +1
          29 September 2015 12: 49
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          Well, the GDP for Syria is going through more than many internal problems,

          Syria is easier. There evil is clearly visible and therefore decisions on it are made easier and faster. Internal problems are very muddy. Here you need to measure seven times before cutting. And strategic actions are not obvious to everyone. Therefore, look at the result and compare with recent decades and with neighbors.
          1. -1
            29 September 2015 22: 08
            Quote: Petrix
            Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
            Well, the GDP for Syria is going through more than many internal problems,

            Syria is easier.
            Internal problems are very muddy. Here you need to measure seven times before cutting. And strategic actions are not obvious to everyone.
            look at the result and compare with the last decades and with your neighbors.

            In order:
            In Syria is not easier. The whole world counts how many cartridges / shells / people came to Syria from Russia and so many ears hit with their warnings and opinions that I don't care. And if Serdyukov and Vasilyev would have been imprisoned, not a single nickname would have come up with a protest to express.
            About turbidity of internal problems and measure / cut seven times. Judging by the patronage of the Serdyukins, they only do what they cut and saw.
            About to look and compare with the last decades. I do not consider the last decades to be the standard. I prefer late Stalinism and other communism after Stalin for the standard of statehood. Here they put everyone without a view of the ranks. They were afraid to think about kickbacks.
            The phrase "a real communist still implies a crystal honest person with strong convictions." And what will they think if you say "a real United Russia party"?
            ETOGES for a deep insult ride!
            PS About 10-15 years ago, the Communists could not stand the spirit, but the party in power forced them to respect in comparison with themselves.
            1. -1
              29 September 2015 22: 19
              Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
              The whole world counts how many cartridges / shells / people came to Syria from Russia and so many ears hit with their warnings and opinions that I don't care. AND if Serdyukov and Vasilyev would be imprisoned, not a single nickname would come up with a protest to express.

              Explain the logic Your statementshe .. slipping away request

              Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
              I don’t consider the last decades the standard

              So do I. But, nevertheless, these decades - were, and what we have now in the Russian Federation - we owe it to the events that took place over these decades.

              You were asked, in fact - whether something has changed for the better in the last 10-15 years. I am also interested in your opinion on this matter.

              Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
              I prefer late Stalinism and other communism after Stalin for the standard of statehood. Here they put everyone without a view of the ranks. Afraid of thinking about kickbacks

              It ended already in the 1960s .. that is, 50 years ago. A couple of generations have changed already .. Doesn't mean anything?

              Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
              10-15 years ago, the Communists could not stand the spirit

              Personally, I didn’t take them to the spirit .. say, long before Yes
      5. -10
        29 September 2015 10: 09
        Quote: Air Force Captain
        For the holy cause do not mind .... yes the Russians?

        First, before answering this question, think about this. Syria, even before the well-known events, have already written off $ 10 billion of Russia's debt. And another $ 4 billion worth of armaments was put, which, judging by the article, they led to a very deplorable state, and they gave something to the whole ISIS. Do you think that if they are yet to be delivered, will they dispose of it any better?
        And for these $ 10bn (actually count 14, because they will not repay new debts either - there is no money and is not expected) how many roads could be built in Russia? Housing for the poor? Schools equip? Hospitals? Yes, just invest in the real economy? Or, if you like it better, how much AUG to build? It would just be today than Qatar and Saudi democratize in full. No pity?what
        And secondly, those who make decisions will not ask you anyway whether it’s a pity or not.
        1. +3
          29 September 2015 10: 52
          You can vaasche ALL WEAPONS AND WEAPONS TO SELL over the hill and will be in the country and in the world of SHYASTYA! And everyone will be happy - we will build roads, schools, hospitals and everything else, our "friends" will have a normal sleep, because there will be confidence that they will be able to fearlessly deliver cancer to Russia, which, you see, is important.
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        3. +3
          29 September 2015 11: 07
          Of course, there are a lot of problems in the country and they need to be solved, but that these 14 billion that went to the fight against terrorism, compared with hundreds of billions annually flowing from the country to the west, fueling the economies of the countries that are gaining strength, are plotting the machinations of Russia, are coming up with ways the destruction of our economy. In fact, the international community itself contains and grows an American monster, allowing it to create instability in different parts of the world. Well, they don’t pay their own hard-earned money for regime change, terrorist training!
          So, if we talk about solving the internal problems of Russia, then we must start by stopping the export of capital to the West.
        4. 0
          29 September 2015 15: 46
          I regard this as a doctrine. Why shoot expensive rockets at plywood targets. It’s better to launch them at bearded obscurantists. Or do you think large-scale exercises are cheaper than the Syrian operation? We will gain experience, we will test weapons. and the money (not all of course) will be recaptured by importing weapons. Which we will advertise in Syria.
        5. 0
          29 September 2015 15: 53
          nobody would have let those 10bn all the way to the objects you indicated. Rather, in summer residences, cars, yachts, mansions, jewelry, and other luxuries.
          our system has not yet grown to be responsible
          so let at least someone feel good if nothing shines on us so far
        6. 0
          29 September 2015 16: 42
          Quote: Nagan
          And for these $ 10bn (actually count 14, because they will not repay new debts either - there is no money and is not expected) how many roads could be built in Russia? Housing for the poor? Schools equip?

          Especially schools. In Crimea. For American tourists. From the travel agency Pentagon and Langley, inc. Here you are, (in the sense of a lot of you. Therefore, with a small letter.) ..., it's healthy to count other people's money. Kadyrov explained that Allah gives money. It is a sin for you to consider - you will be covered with a scab.
        7. +1
          29 September 2015 17: 07
          your statement is not for a Russian person. A Russian cannot sleep peacefully if an ancient evil wanders somewhere in the desert, offending peaceful people, many of whom are Orthodox believers. To drive evil back into hell, tanks and planes do not mind the forces of good at all, they are also asking for something that is already in the warehouse and so what will need to be changed in the near future to a more modern laughing
        8. 0
          29 September 2015 19: 22
          For good people and 20 lards it’s not a pity)))) ... Especially considering the fact that now Syria is fighting with our enemies, just far from Russia ... Look at the map, these features do not cost anything after a while hit our Caucasus ...
      6. +10
        29 September 2015 10: 26
        Quote: Captain Air Force
        For the holy cause do not mind .... yes the Russians?

        I always cringe from Yeltsin - the Russians.
        1. 0
          29 September 2015 10: 43
          Quote: Engineer
          I always cringe from Yeltsin - the Russians.

          Anything better than the late Gorbachevskoe: "Compatriots"...
      7. +2
        29 September 2015 11: 48
        And as B. Assad said, Thank God that there is Putin. Which clearly understands the whole situation.
    3. +19
      29 September 2015 09: 51
      I think that in Russia there will be enough 72-k to help the Syrians! It would be necessary to send several divisions of TOS-1 "Buratino" there, so that the ISIS members could experience what the phrase means: "to burn in fiery hell!"
    4. +4
      29 September 2015 09: 56
      Quote: RuslanNN
      They will deliver ours, they will certainly help. In Syria, we defend the distant frontiers of the motherland, good from evil.


      Without a doubt. Various "armor", we have BEDDINGS.

      But how much is the equipment in storage ready for shipment?
      Will the resources of the tank repair enterprises be enough to prepare a sufficient amount of it for the "Eastern" and "Middle Eastern" fronts?
    5. +1
      29 September 2015 10: 30
      And some "specialists" have already buried tanks as the main means of modern combat. Look, it turns out to be more modern and no more needed! soldier
    6. 0
      29 September 2015 12: 41
      It is necessary to increase the production of tanks of the same 72 or 80, to send them to Syria from storage, and to put new things into storage ... But is it sense to merge your reserves ???
  2. +8
    29 September 2015 09: 45
    Tanks quickly deplete their resource from sand in the desert, of course, there are no repair kits for a long time, that's why tanks "die" ... Spare parts are probably also needed to "revive" the Syrian tanks ..
  3. +15
    29 September 2015 09: 45
    T-55 is an excellent tank. Israel still uses their modernized version in the form of Ahzarite.
    1. +11
      29 September 2015 10: 03
      Quote: Kaiten
      T-55 excellent tank
      T-55 Enigma (Iraqi modernization of T-55)
    2. +1
      29 September 2015 10: 25
      Why these comparisons if ahzarit is NOT a TANK at all?
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  4. +1
    29 September 2015 09: 46
    And I want the 14th to be tested in combat conditions. Well, decide the topic, Dmitry!
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    2. +2
      29 September 2015 13: 15
      Quote: iliitch
      I want the 14th to be tested in combat


      But do not want to, as expected, for the T-14 to organize first a full cycle of military tests with the relevant conclusions and proposals of the State Commission with subsequent refinements?
  5. +3
    29 September 2015 09: 46
    Recently watched a report, the correspondent said that the Syrian army has superiority in heavy weapons.
  6. +7
    29 September 2015 09: 47
    Definitely give
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 09: 56
      You can load 775 tanks in the BDK of project 10, but in addition to the tanks of the Syrian army, you need a lot of things. The land path is needed.
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 10: 00
        Quote: Smoked
        The land path is needed.


        There are options?
        Through Iran, and then in the battle formations and on the rear of ISIS, with access to Domask? wink Or they’ll rush right through Turkey, why wind circles! smile
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        2. +2
          29 September 2015 11: 07
          Quote: Bombardier
          Or they’ll rush through Turkey right away, why wind circles


          "Quickly Cook Lunch and Step on Sokal" J. Hasek "The Adventures of the Brave Soldier Švejk." good
      2. 0
        29 September 2015 10: 04
        Quote: Smoked
        You can load 775 tanks in the BDK of project 10, but in addition to the tanks of the Syrian army, you need a lot of things. The land path is needed.

        For such purposes, rent ships from the civilian fleet.
        1. +2
          29 September 2015 10: 08
          And they will give them insurance and other shipping that controls like England, will they? I heard an interesting topic.
          1. 0
            29 September 2015 10: 32
            Quote: Smoked
            And they will give them insurance and other shipping that controls like England, will they? I heard an interesting topic.

            Putin probably because of this and insists on a coalition. What would be the decision of the UN Security Council. hi
        2. +8
          29 September 2015 10: 18
          They will carry civilians if they agree with the United States. Otherwise, they will be quite legally (on the basis of the procedures of inspection of civil courts signed by Russia, as well as unilateral sanctions imposed by the USA and Turkey) will be flown in the straits and arrested. That is, to inspect at the inspection on international inspection acts, which legally do not undermine, and to arrest the goods on the basis of sanctions in the territory of the inspector.

          Warships - do not have the right to inspect unless a UN-approved blockade has been imposed and the ship should not go to a place blocked by the UN.

          Escort will not help here because - again, the inspection of a civilian vessel is a procedure prescribed and signed including by Russia. Although Moscow will stand there, it will not be touched.

          Repainting and raising the St. Andrew’s flag will also give nothing. We need a procedure for transferring a ship to the Navy, this is a bureaucracy with entry in world registers. Otherwise, it will be hijacked on the basis of flag-ship mismatch, also legally (piracy or smuggling under someone else’s flag), plus the ship will be arrested on 1-2 of the year of the trial.

          Yes, it’s a huge misfortune that the Navy has not only a rather limited landing fleet (and why, they’re not going to land - like the arguments of 1-2 years ago), but also the complete lack of transports. For example, the Soviet transport sold at 90 of the U.S. Navy from a mobilization reserve by capacity = 10 BDK serves Uncle Sam in the U.S. Navy.
          1. +1
            29 September 2015 10: 44
            Quote: donavi49
            Yes, it’s a huge misfortune that the Navy has not only a rather limited landing fleet (and why, they’re not going to land - as was the case 1-2 years ago), but also a complete lack of transports.

            not in an eyebrow but in the eye !! ... applaud ... well, where are all the local argumentators ??? ... once again I would like to discuss on the topic of landing ships ..... Mistral .... what, they don’t have application ?? ... a suitcase without a handle ?? ... a trough against baboons ?? ...
        3. -1
          29 September 2015 16: 18
          Undoubtedly, all ships of Russian construction or Russian (Soviet projects) are also intended for the transport of military equipment. So the vessels of the Northern Shipping Company (Arkhangelsk), the Murmansk Shipping Company (Murmansk), all skaters, etc. If necessary, the necessary tonnage will be provided immediately. All mobilization plans suggest this. Moreover, vessels with heavy-weight arrows will unload the equipment from the holds themselves, and from the rollers under their own power along the ramp.
      3. 0
        29 September 2015 16: 56
        Quote: Smoked
        The land path is needed.

        Please note that South African coal in Ukraine is comparable in price to Donetsk. Transportation by sea vessels is incomparably cheaper than transportation of goods along the "dry track". For comparison. The river (the largest of the Volga) motor ship "24 congress of the KPSS" took cargo brought by 3 railway routes. And loaded up from 4. And how to overtake these routes to Syria? Change the track, change the carts? Even if you drive everyone who is against it from the railroad. After laying the missing sections.
    2. 0
      29 September 2015 10: 42
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Definitely give

      From storage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. 0
    29 September 2015 09: 49
    At the same time, you can clean the warehouses and earn money on this for your rearmament.
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 12: 55
      Warehouses ... have you seen these warehouses? I saw that there was only a sense of the hull from the tanks, the engines were removed, the wiring was cut off, there weren’t any tracks, or rather, but not everywhere and often not on cars, I can’t talk about more complex systems, but something tells me that they’re also khan.
  8. +7
    29 September 2015 09: 49
    Of course, equipment for four years of war is in dire need of replenishment. Russia helps and will help. It is advisable that another of our allies connect to this. Unverified information about possible Chinese shipments passed. But they have in storage exactly the old Soviet tanks, which were discussed in the article.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 10: 04
      The topic is real about the Chinese. Why not ? The military effect will be good, but the political one ... Uncle Sam will have a beard.
      1. +1
        29 September 2015 10: 28
        China is very careful, and the duck carrier, he recently appeared in East China on the K2 after repairs and minor modifications.

        Plus, they have their own Muslims 20 million, of which up to 1 million they are radically inclined, that is, they are the basis for the very same Islamic State to start building their Caliphate. They bum there regularly, they attacked a police convoy not so long ago - they killed 5 policemen and 8 wounded, took away weapons and, like, they recaptured their grandmother, who was taken to prison.
        1. +1
          29 September 2015 13: 03
          Quote: donavi49
          20 million of them are Muslims, of which up to 1 million are radically inclined

          It is not obvious that China will be worse: they are afraid of their 1 million radicals or help to crush the den, where these radicals are spreading.

          China could help not only with supplies. If we add Chinese military transports to the Syrian express, then the sheep are safe (the cargo delivered) and the wolves are full (international law is respected).
  9. +6
    29 September 2015 09: 50
    “The modernized T-55M, T-62M, T-55MV and T-62MV, which were reinforced in terms of survivability, would be useful to the Syrians, but, according to some reports, they managed to utilize these tanks during the former leadership of the Ministry of Defense”

    Serdyukov to the count! For life.
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 10: 07
      Quote: Penetrator

      Serdyukov to the count! For life.


      No, no, this one of the chosen ones. It does not apply to the Criminal Code. recourse
    2. -1
      29 September 2015 10: 16
      Quote: Penetrator
      Serdyukov to the count! For life.

      So they sit for life, though not for long. The inept executioners only have a few hours. The more skilled have a few days. According to rumors, there were such craftsmen in the Persian shakhty that their clients sat for almost a week.
  10. +3
    29 September 2015 09: 52
    Somewhere near UVZ there was a modernization of 72 matches for urban battles ..? That's what you need ...
    1. +10
      29 September 2015 10: 06
      Quote: Observer 33
      Somewhere near UVZ there was a modernization of 72 matches for urban battles
  11. +1
    29 September 2015 09: 54
    Yes, we need one Victory.
    One for all, we will not stand for the price!
  12. +4
    29 September 2015 09: 54
    Since they have already harnessed themselves, now they can definitely only help. Secondly, Syria is a training ground for various military know-how, not necessarily "Armat".
  13. +1
    29 September 2015 09: 54
    At the same time, it’s possible to load the defense industry with new orders ... But yesterday the GDP washed the frame beautifully ..
  14. +1
    29 September 2015 09: 55
    “The Syrians would also have been able to use upgraded T-55M, T-62M, T-55MB and T-62MVs in terms of survivability, but according to some reports, these tanks were disposed of during the previous leadership of the Ministry of Defense,” concludes Romanov.
    vague doubts torment me. recently I read somewhere that a thousand or two are still there.
    1. +10
      29 September 2015 10: 18
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      recently read somewhere that a thousand or two there

      Andrei hi, the layout is approximately the following: T-55 2800, T-62 1600, T-64 2300
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 10: 34
        The famous T-62 tanks, which constituted the main striking force of the Soviet army in the conflict on Damansky Island in 1968, finally went down in history. As the Main Auto-Armored Directorate (GABTU) of the Ministry of Defense told Izvestia, it was decided to begin the disposal of the T-62 immediately after the New Year.

        - It is necessary to free up space at the storage bases for new tanks. A little more than 900 T-62s have been preserved, and all of them have been transferred to Spetsremont OJSC, which is part of the Oboronservis holding. They will be engaged in "cutting", - said a senior officer of the GABTU.

        Back in 2011, the Minister of Defense signed an order to withdraw from service non-core weapons and military equipment, as well as the transition to a unified caliber of main battle tank guns. According to this order, only relatively new modifications of the T-72/90 and T-80 remain in service and the contentment of the defense department. They, in turn, are actively changing to modern T-90.



        Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/542395#ixzz3n5iJhFNG
      2. 0
        29 September 2015 15: 48
        Clear and understandable. Thank .
  15. +1
    29 September 2015 09: 57
    They are in dire need of scientists and experienced brains. They themselves use the tanks haphazardly, and then they are surprised ...
  16. +5
    29 September 2015 10: 01
    There will be tanks ... How can you restore order without them!
  17. +1
    29 September 2015 10: 08
    Vladimir Putin emphasized that Russia supports the Syrian government “in countering terrorist aggression” and is and will continue to provide “necessary military-technical assistance” to Syria. So there will be tanks and military equipment with specialists.
  18. +2
    29 September 2015 10: 12
    if the Syrians like weapons, then it’s good and effective. The Syrians fight well with our weapons.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 10: 25
      Let's just say that they don’t have to pick and choose, but the eggs of the Syrian tankers are steel. And covering them with modern armor would not hurt.
  19. +1
    29 September 2015 10: 31
    Yes. There are huge technical problems in Syria. Now I watched a video from the Syrian base captured by terrorists in Quneitra. Terrorists say the Syrians are only left at the airbase. So there the defense of the captured base was kept on the "T-34-85". The terrorists themselves were crazy about what they saw. The Syrians removed from storage and threw all the equipment into battle. It came to the "T-34-85" and "Su-100" in storage. 1 of the latter was also in that video.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 10: 35
      Here is a screenshot. But this is more local, they had several rarities there with a limited number of shells, they used them because there is nothing more, and there is nothing to choose in the boiler (air supply base for a long time).
      1. +1
        29 September 2015 10: 37
        This is not the video. There is one more thing. There are 2 T-34-85 and 1 SU-100 in the video.
  20. +2
    29 September 2015 10: 31
    By the way, here Mistral could also help in the transfer of the required number of tanks and other military equipment. Still, the ship is big. The couple would have generally shuttled at a time.
    However, it did not grow together again!
    We all hope for the sanity of the Europeans.
    1. +1
      29 September 2015 10: 38
      Highways are still useful for the ability to transfer ready-made air groups, including land helicopters (up to Mi-26) on deck, without disassembling, taking off from the deck and flying to the land base of deployment. Ruslans come out longer (to disassemble, load, assemble, put into flight condition), even taking into account the sea passage from the SSS to Tartus.
  21. 0
    29 September 2015 10: 50
    here the important point is not the sanity of Europeans but the USA and Turkey. The Turks are not very profitable to strengthen Syria and especially the Kurds, the United States generally poher but Assad they want at all costs to throw off what would become chaos. Until we agree with the Turks (USA) there will be no normal supply to Syria. Since there is nothing
  22. 0
    29 September 2015 10: 56
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: Air Force Captain
    For the holy cause do not mind .... yes the Russians?

    First, before answering this question, think about this. Syria, even before the well-known events, have already written off $ 10 billion of Russia's debt. And another $ 4 billion worth of armaments was put, which, judging by the article, they led to a very deplorable state, and they gave something to the whole ISIS. Do you think that if they are yet to be delivered, will they dispose of it any better?
    And for these $ 10bn (actually count 14, because they will not repay new debts either - there is no money and is not expected) how many roads could be built in Russia? Housing for the poor? Schools equip? Hospitals? Yes, just invest in the real economy? Or, if you like it better, how much AUG to build? It would just be today than Qatar and Saudi democratize in full. No pity?what
    And secondly, those who make decisions will not ask you anyway whether it’s a pity or not.

    In your opinion ... it turns out ... it is necessary to build roads, houses, cut nuclear weapons, etc. ... to score on the whole world and think only about yourself? It is very similar to an exceptional version of events .... only the time will come and we will reap democratic bombing from the ostrich politics and everything that has been built will be very "nice" to be destroyed ... did I understand you correctly? "PARTNER"???
  23. 0
    29 September 2015 11: 16
    They also need B / U.
  24. 0
    29 September 2015 11: 20
    As well as competent tankers.
  25. +1
    29 September 2015 11: 42
    So the tanks are still in storage-mountains! But the T-72s already have a shift, you can gradually remove from storage and transfer, at the same time, and check the command of the warehouses for lice, surely there is such a shortage of components!
  26. +1
    29 September 2015 11: 46
    About a large tanker with a helipad, a couple of guns and a pair of air defense systems is a good idea. It would be very useful at such a time. Even special protection requirements are not needed, as in the Mistral and the like, purely transportation of large cargo for the military. It's a pity we do not have them ...
  27. 0
    29 September 2015 11: 47
    Yes, we have heaped this good, all the warehouses are full, rusting idle - take at least everything, it’s not a pity for a good deed.
  28. +1
    29 September 2015 11: 54
    “The Syrians would also have been able to use upgraded T-55M, T-62M, T-55MB and T-62MVs in terms of survivability, but according to some reports, these tanks were disposed of during the previous leadership of the Ministry of Defense,” concludes Romanov.


    A strange phrase, the author of the information most likely does not represent the volumes standing on the conservation of equipment and weapons. Even such a lord as a stool with girls was not able to completely destroy everything. Another question is that there is no time for them, even rather modest preparation and modernization. Although, with the stabilization of the conflict, the idea of ​​using our outdated, but quite combat-ready equipment is quite competent.

    Well, it's kind of my subjective thought. sad
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 13: 22
      Our modernization of the so-called "urban" T-72 will probably be somewhat expensive for the Syrians, so they need help with the modernization, at least as they do it themselves, but on an "industrial" scale:


      or you need to equip them with at least the Iranian modernization of this tank, and that will be good:

  29. 0
    29 September 2015 13: 53
    Forgive me, but as the Syrians used tanks in the city without the support of infantry, this is tough, because they were scorched by hundreds .... how many videos of this stupidity, when fighters point blank from less than 200 meters from the 2 floors of the building and beat from the roofs of tanks that infantry does not support the flanks ... It makes no sense to give this, they will burn everything because of the stupidity of the application. Only under the control and guidance of ours. There are examples of assault groups in Berlin.
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 13: 58
      The whole point is not in the "stupidity" of the Syrians, but in their lack of infantry, especially since tanks were always burned during their battles in cities, even with the support of infantry, but the truth is less.
    2. 0
      29 September 2015 17: 14
      For five years already learned how to fight tanks in the city, burned a lot of them in the beginning
      1. ICT
        0
        29 September 2015 20: 35
        Quote: Pissarro
        burned them a lot in the beginning


        and this hour is still harnessed in the fields, and Damascus is still not under control,

        and meaning