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Baluevsky: Iskander in the Kaliningrad region and the strengthening of the Navy will be an adequate response to the deployment of nuclear weapons in Germany

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Expansion of the group in the Kaliningrad region, as well as an increase in the activity of the Navy in the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea, will be able to neutralize threats in connection with plans to upgrade the nuclear weapons in the Federal Republic of Germany, said Army General Yuri Baluyevsky, former head of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces.




“Creating and, if necessary, increasing the group of troops in the Kaliningrad region, including by deploying Iskander-M operational tactical missile systems, can be one of the adequate actions of Russia in response to the deployment of modernized US tactical nuclear weapons in Germany and other European countries ", - quotes the general ВПК.name.

According to Baluyevsky, one more measure “may be an increase in military activity in the Baltic and Black seas”.

“At one time front-line planes were based in Crimea aviation The Russian Air Force, capable of carrying, including nuclear ammunition. But Ukraine in every possible way impeded the modernization and replacement of these aircraft. Now our hands are untied. Today, in the Black Sea region, both on land and on the sea, we can do everything we need, ”he said.

The general recalled that "at the end of 80-x - the beginning of 90-s, the Soviet Union assumed obligations, in accordance with which it reduced the number of tactical nuclear weapons."

“Today, all our nuclear weapons are in Russia. And what about the USA? In Europe, according to various estimates, there are now from 20 to 50 American atomic bombs. Previously, these were B-61, then nuclear weapons were modified to the B-61-12 variant. Thus, the US tactical nuclear weapons in Europe have been and remain, moreover, in a modernized version, with increased combat characteristics. And if the United States, others, let's say, our potential adversaries, is threatened only by strategic weapons of the Russian army, then in Europe, in particular, in Germany, in the immediate vicinity of the borders of Russia, there are tactical nuclear weapons that already have a strategic character. ”


“Today, pilots from the German Bundeswehr and other European countries are learning how to use tactical nuclear weapons. For what? Who are they going to fight with? Only with Russia - this is obvious, ”he stressed.

“In addition, airfields in the Baltic republics of the former Soviet Union are also prepared for the landing and use of NATO aircraft capable of carrying nuclear bombs,” he added. “All this creates certain conditions for Russia to take adequate measures.”
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  1. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 28 September 2015 13: 32 New
    23
    "Iskanders" -sobering better cucumber pickle ...
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      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 28 September 2015 13: 41 New
        16
        True, I really would not want this adequate answer to be really used. In the meantime, everything goes to this. Maybe today's speech of the President of Russia at the UN General Assembly clarifies some brains?
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 28 September 2015 13: 46 New
          24
          I would not be surprised if the Iskanders at the right time fly much further than their claimed 500 km.

          This is so that they do not expect that in Europe there will be safe places
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    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 28 September 2015 13: 37 New
      11
      Nuclear bombs still need to be delivered. Iskanders and additional air defense equipment quickly bring to life.
      1. Ribwort
        Ribwort 28 September 2015 14: 42 New
        +5
        Только вот что-то у меня сложилось впечатление, что пластинка уже малость заезжена. "Искандеры в Калининградской области..." Если посчитать, сколько раз мы отвечали этой мантрой на различные враждебные выпады в наш адрес, то количество "Искандеров" в Калининградской области на квадратный метр уже должно было бы превзойти все разумные пределы...
    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 28 September 2015 13: 37 New
      +4
      Now our hands are untied. Today in the Black Sea region, both on land and on the sea, we can do everything we need, ”he said.

      Fine..! Crimea with its catacombs and mountainous terrain ... You can turn around calmly and anything!
    4. Sterlya
      Sterlya 28 September 2015 13: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      "Iskanders" -sobering better cucumber pickle ...

      and who will let the Europeans sober up? they are under occupation.
      (под страной "победившей" фашизм wassat Her. with naglosaktsy this does not work) they come. and remain
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 28 September 2015 13: 42 New
        +2
        The problem is that the Iskander-M missile system stretches to Berlin with a stretch, and in which case it is unlikely to reach the warehouses with these same B-61-12 bombs.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 28 September 2015 13: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          The problem is that the Iskander-M missile system stretches to Berlin with a stretch, and in which case it is unlikely to reach the warehouses with these same B-61-12 bombs.

          And for this, it is stated:
          as well as an increase in the activity of the Navy in the Black Sea and Baltic, they will be able to neutralize threats in connection with plans to upgrade nuclear weapons in Germany

          On the ships of the Navy there are more long-range missiles than land-limited ones in range!
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 28 September 2015 14: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Starover_Z
            On the ships of the Navy there are more long-range missiles than land-limited ones in range!

            Subsonic Gauges fly for a long time, and their launch is likely to be spotted and ready to reflect (there are many radars in Europe and Scandinavia). Now, if the Russian Navy had an Iskander-M naval variant with an increased range of up to 1000-1600 kilometers, then the time for intercepting missiles would be much less.
        2. plotnikov561956
          plotnikov561956 28 September 2015 15: 18 New
          +2
          Простите за риторический вопрос...Вы реально знаете дальность действия "Искандера-М "..? Лично у меня цифра в 500 км вызывает сомнение..
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 September 2015 13: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: RUSIVAN
      "Iskanders" -sobering better cucumber pickle ...

      If they were in Cuba or Poplar was placed there, then yes, that would be a decent answer.
      In this case, we are responsible for Germany, not the United States.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 28 September 2015 13: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If they were in Cuba or Poplar was placed there, then yes, that would be a decent answer.
        In this case, we are responsible for Germany, not the United States.

        Well, if it’s just about garlic, then in Cuba place bombs, not missiles. And so yes you are right winked
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 September 2015 13: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Sith Lord

          Well, if it’s just about garlic, then in Cuba place bombs, not missiles. AND

          Bombs themselves do not fly.
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 28 September 2015 13: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If they were in Cuba or Poplar was placed there, then yes, that would be a decent answer.
        In this case, we are responsible for Germany, not the United States.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 28 September 2015 13: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          Lt. Air Force stock

          For you again
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          or Poplars were placed there,
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 28 September 2015 14: 05 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            or Poplars were placed there,

            If only in Alaska or Hawaii, Topol can’t be worked out at medium range, and Boundary has not yet been accepted into service.
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 28 September 2015 14: 29 New
          +2
          Poplars in Cuba - Are you laughing? Like a fish needs a bicycle. See the range of Topol missiles on Wikipedia. Before Florida, the same Iskander or club would be quite enough (taking into account the fact that their range is theoretically assumed to be greater than declared). Nobody will shoot from Topol.
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 28 September 2015 14: 20 New
      +6
      The brine does not sober up, but relieves withdrawal symptoms (hangover) by restoring the water-salt balance in the body. You are a Russian, Ivan. Do not dishonor the nation! laughing
    7. Tor5
      Tor5 28 September 2015 14: 32 New
      0
      Логика "Искандеров" - самый лучший ответ.
    8. Sweles
      Sweles 28 September 2015 14: 44 New
      +3
      when will these iskanders be put in place? and then just talk ...
  2. sinukvl
    sinukvl 28 September 2015 13: 34 New
    +1
    The Iskanders in the Kaliningrad Region and the strengthening of the Navy will be an adequate response to the deployment of nuclear weapons in Germany

    And rightly so that the adversaries do not relax.
  3. Asadullah
    Asadullah 28 September 2015 13: 34 New
    +5
    Iskander can equip TNW?
    1. gans_sp
      gans_sp 28 September 2015 13: 52 New
      +7
      otherwise, why is it needed, I think the real range differs from the declared
      1. plotnikov561956
        plotnikov561956 28 September 2015 15: 25 New
        +3
        At this point, the question arises ... 500 km with a high-explosive warhead weighing 400 kg or a special charge weighing 100 kg ... according to common logic, then it’s likely that it’s not 500 km .. and 700-1000 km
  4. kil 31
    kil 31 28 September 2015 13: 35 New
    +8
    Даже не сомневаюсь, что у Калининградских "Искандеров" будет интересная БЧ. wink
  5. belovur
    belovur 28 September 2015 13: 37 New
    +2
    Yes, the Americans have already abandoned their words about the placement of bombs! It can be seen already drank cucumber pickle!)))
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 28 September 2015 13: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: belovur
      Yes, the Americans have already abandoned their words about the placement of bombs! It can be seen already drank cucumber pickle!)))

      no longer matters. given a reason. made. then they will probably not think much
  6. sever.56
    sever.56 28 September 2015 13: 39 New
    +4
    Германии стоит подумать сто раз, прежде чем соглашаться на размещение нового тактического ядерного оружия на своей территории. А еще лучше было бы поменять зависимое от штатов руководство, во главе с Меркель, на людей, для которых интересы своего народа выше, чем т.н. "евроатлантическая солидарность" и закрыть у себя все военные базы США.
  7. propolsky
    propolsky 28 September 2015 13: 43 New
    +1
    Америка добилась своего: Европа трясется от российского вооружения, России "приставлен нож" к горлу, а фраера отдыхают за океаном. Пора вспоминать про остров свободы.
  8. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 28 September 2015 13: 44 New
    +1
    That's right, good declaration, we have something to answer, and let the nonsense think carefully whether they should try their luck.
  9. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 28 September 2015 13: 50 New
    +6
    Well, let's see what and how .. Nobody knows! hi
  10. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 28 September 2015 13: 53 New
    +2
    "Искандеры" в Калинградской области - это будет раковая опухоль в организме НАТО. Как не крутись, а исход летальный...
    1. _my opinion
      _my opinion 28 September 2015 15: 28 New
      0
      Quote: MATROSKIN-53
      "Искандеры" в Калинградской области - это будет раковая опухоль в организме НАТО. Как не крутись, а исход летальный...

      rather it will be - the surgeon's scalpel ...
  11. bmv04636
    bmv04636 28 September 2015 13: 56 New
    +3
    As I understand it, Caliber caliber cruise missiles with a range of 2,5 and up to 5 thousand km are already ready for Varshavyanka and missile boats. and now the question is if this type of cruise missiles installed on ekranoplanes this is not a violation of the contract after all? And ekranoplanes not only in the sea can walk with us and the rivers are full. laughing
  12. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 28 September 2015 14: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: sever.56
    Германии стоит подумать сто раз, прежде чем соглашаться на размещение нового тактического ядерного оружия на своей территории. А еще лучше было бы поменять зависимое от штатов руководство, во главе с Меркель, на людей, для которых интересы своего народа выше, чем т.н. "евроатлантическая солидарность" и закрыть у себя все военные базы США.


    If the mattress mattresses wanted to replace the atomic bombs in Germany, they would have done it quietly and no one would have known about it, it’s not ICBMs, so it’s quite possible to smuggle them in, but what they just announced is going to replace them is it seems more like a political statement, like they scare us and pump hysteria in Europe, I think so
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 September 2015 21: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: kostyan77708
      If mattresses would like to replace the atomic bombs located in Germany

      But are they not going to replace? It seems that back in 2013, a program was adopted to modernize it with the allocation of 18 billion dollars for the construction of 2 complexes and the modernization of B61. So everything is going according to plan.
      Quote: kostyan77708
      they would do it quietly and no one would know about it,
      Oh oh You completely exclude intelligence and technical intelligence. Despite the fact that intelligence is keeping an accurate record of how many products were made and where they appeared.
      Quote: kostyan77708
      It’s not ICBMs, so it’s quite possible to smuggle them in
      Невозможно. Вы что-нибудь об "атомных" поездах слышали? "Саркофаги"-- бронированные термосы для обеспечения технической безопасности представляете?
      Quote: kostyan77708
      and the fact that they just announced that they are going to replace it is more like a political statement,
      Они заявляют, что собираются это сделать к 2020г. А вот то, что "ищейки" от СМИ (наверняка с нашей подсказки, ненавязчивой!), роясь в финансовых документах, обнаружили выделение средств на переоборудование немецких Торнадо под носители ЯБ -- вот это точно амы не ожидали! Разразился скандал. Одно дело F-16C/E (они как бы "амовские",хотя стоят на вооружении ВВС стран НАТО) и совсем другое -- национальные носители...Торнадо, Еврофайтеры...
      Quote: kostyan77708
      like scare us and hysteria in Europe pump
      К сожалению, это крайне серьезно. Это шаги по эскалации атомной угрозы для нашей страны. Это вбитый клин в процесс сближения РФ и ФРГ, который "серпом по колокольчикам" янкесам.
      So, the American pig continues to dig its nose in search of truffles in European gardens.
  13. radogos
    radogos 28 September 2015 14: 01 New
    0
    Give Adequate Measures !!! THIS PIDA .... AM !!! Stop bending under the dictator ...
  14. fregina1
    fregina1 28 September 2015 14: 04 New
    +3
    The Iskanders have completely different tasks ..... of which our general is grinding the wrong way! The threat from US nuclear weapons in Germany is offset by the deployment, or rather, the restoration of the missile army in Belarus ... with updated PIONEER M! Then it will be the same ... and so ...... it's all songs
  15. roskot
    roskot 28 September 2015 14: 11 New
    +3
    The Americans will look from behind the puddles, but the Germans have provided themselves with a headache.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 September 2015 22: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: roskot
      and the Germans provided themselves with a headache.

      Немцы -- заложники. Базы США в ФРГ -- экстерриториальны, размещены на основе договора в рамках НАТО по концепции "передовых рубежей". По добру-по здорову они из Европы не уйдут. Нужно перетягивать немцев на идею ЕвроНАТО вместе с Франками при вытеснении Штатов за лужу.
      Then it will be possible to think in European way: not to play with matches on a stack of dry hay, but it is reasonable to build a mutually beneficial policy of peaceful coexistence. IMHO.
  16. KRIG55
    KRIG55 28 September 2015 14: 12 New
    +2
    "Искандеров" побольше хороших и разных.
  17. over
    over 28 September 2015 14: 45 New
    0
    Я одного не могу понять. Ну запрещены ракеты средней дальности, хорошо. Это правильно. Но почему нельзя наклепать обычных больших барж с калибром и их аналогом борту? Чтобы задача у этих барж была только одна. Пальнуть всем к-том не выходя из своих вод на пару тысяч километров. Дешево и сердито. И на каждом флоте таких расставить. Просто уже подташнивает от всяческих "не имеющих аналогов" изделий, которые только на бумаге.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 28 September 2015 15: 06 New
      +1
      It is more expensive and worse than Iskander. The ship needs a separate one, it is not so mobile, it will soon light up. In addition, the Iskander has a higher speed, they perform unpredictable maneuvers. Ourselves say that the missile is elusive for today's missile defense.
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  18. loaln
    loaln 28 September 2015 14: 58 New
    0
    If we talk about the Iskander, then in passing, and focus on their goals and practice of use (a preventive nuclear strike on all possible objects of the likely location of nuclear weapons and their carriers). With an illustration on the maps. With large names of settlements. With affected areas. Everyday. Then every week Then repeat the cycle. Then something else similar to wariness may appear in Europe. The population.
    And so? Well, Russia has some kind of rocket with a wonderful name. So she has these missiles full. One more, one less. Where are they standing? So they are created to fly far. What do we need?
    So either speak objectively or be silent. Significantly. Intrigues and benefits will be a hundred times more.
    An empty chatter indicates only one's own insecurity.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 28 September 2015 15: 22 New
      +1
      Then every week Then repeat the cycle. Then something else similar to wariness may appear in Europe.

      Alertness has long appeared. But the West has an attitude: to devour us in any way in the coming years. I think she will overpower.
      Now hunchback (West) only correct the grave. And so it will be.
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  19. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 28 September 2015 14: 59 New
    +2
    According to Murakhovsky, the recreated BZHRK will reach a new technical level: now "the creation of special oversized cars" is not required. The complexes "will fully fit into the existing dimensions of railway cars and thereby will be completely hidden from enemy reconnaissance and surveillance."

    “And, in addition, this system will allow launches to be carried out almost anywhere on the railway, unlike the previous system, which required specially prepared sections, removal of the high voltage contact network, and so on,” the expert explained.
    http://cont.ws/post/126939

    These are the complexes! Super!
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 September 2015 15: 33 New
    0
    Интересно сколько килотонн боеголовка на Искандере? С учетом его точности, это самый хороший ответ новым бомбам США, на северном море нужно дополнительно лодки типа Варшавянки разместить с ракетами "Калибр" в ядерном исполнении. 2500км прострелит всю Европу+ Ту-22 в Крыму.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 28 September 2015 15: 53 New
      0
      Gauges are relatively new. If anything, then we have Grenades from 83 years in service with YaBCh only range -3000 km.
      http://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/86469.html
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 September 2015 22: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Given its accuracy, this is the best answer to the new US bombs,
      Undoubtedly. BUT!
      Мне кажется, что у вас превратное представление о том, как будут применяться ОТР. Работать они будут по аэродромам, базам хранения, арсеналам, пунктам управления войсками. Серьезность намерений определяется моментом "подачи изделий на носители", может передовые пункты...Вот тут-то...и наступит "момент истины"! Военные готовы, войска на исходных,и ждут приказа...Решать будут политики...
      May God grant them wisdom and courage!
  21. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 28 September 2015 15: 49 New
    0
    different warheads from iskander and high-explosive and vigorous and cassettes .. how lucky ... and about the cube - I'm for !!! from there they will put - all the scribe to the hegemons - pi - to - to the thrones
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 28 September 2015 15: 56 New
      +1
      Fidel used to be young there. Now he, I think, is not up to rockets. They made peace with the Americans. Enough submarines with Yabr.
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  22. Communist
    Communist 28 September 2015 20: 42 New
    -1
    I am for the return of the iron curtain and jammers smile fellow and more nuclear missiles need to aim at the pederast of Europe and aim at Obama am the main thing is to aim larger and larger missiles am
  23. Old26
    Old26 28 September 2015 20: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Starover_Z
    On the ships of the Navy there are more long-range missiles than land-limited ones in range!

    On the ships of the Black Sea and Baltic fleets? Long-range missiles? I wonder which ones?

    Quote: KRIG55
    "Искандеров" побольше хороших и разных.


    Damn, as zadolbali already such statements: "больше", "больше, "больше".

    Respected KRIG55! Do you know such a concept as staff? About what, damn it, "больше хороших и разных" can we talk ??? In the Kaliningrad region deployed ONE MISSILE BRIGADE. Только одна. И замена с "Точки" на "Искандер" потребует как минимум полгода (у нас в год делают два бригадных комплекта). О том, чтобы разворачивать новую ракетную бригаду вообще не идет и речи, а если такая идея возникнет, понадобиться на это 2-3 года. А вы все "быстрее, больше и разных".

    And as I wrote, even if only MILLION the site will say "БОЛЬШЕ" - it's all golem RAVE. More than the state should not put there. Namely 12 launchers and not one and more. Already frankly tired of reading amateurish delusional sayings, wishes on MILITARY REVIEW. Nevertheless, the site is positioning itself as a military, and not for sipping wishes on the bench at the entrance ...

    Quote: over
    I can’t understand one thing. Well, medium-range missiles are forbidden, fine. It is right. But why not riveting ordinary large barges with caliber and their analogue board? So that the task of these barges was only one. Shot by all to-that without leaving your waters for a couple of thousand kilometers.


    Well, you can make such barges. And where are you them "гонять" will you? I am not talking about the infrastructure of such divisions, regiments, brigades.
    Максимум, что такие баржи, пусть даже с крылатыми ракетами с дальностью в 2000 км достанут - это до середины Польши. И что дальше. Дозвуковые ракеты с дальностью в 2000 км будут "пилить" до места назначения порядка 3 часов... Что, времени навести на них авиацию и сбить их, не говоря уже о ЗРК на пути их следования и также сбить, не будет???
  24. Old26
    Old26 28 September 2015 21: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: bmv04636
    As I understand it, caliber cruise missiles with a range of 2,5 and up to 5 thousand km

    And why is the radius not 50 thousand kilometers ??? Where did this one come from? RAVE? Or do you think that in the same overall dimensions with approximately equal parameters, you can get 8-16 times greater range ???? Aw, superconstructors ... Why are you sitting on the site? Such opportunities open before you. To increase by so many times the range with the same weight and size parameters and contrary to all design and physical laws ...

    Quote: Good AAAH
    In addition, the Iskander has a higher speed, they perform unpredictable maneuvers. Ourselves say that the missile is elusive for today's missile defense.

    Yeah, contrary to all the laws of physics ... Ours will not even say that ...

    Quote: loaln
    If we talk about the Iskander, then in passing, and focus on their goals and practice of use (a preventive nuclear strike on all possible objects of the likely location of nuclear weapons and their carriers). With an illustration on the maps. With large names of settlements. With affected areas. Everyday. Then every week Then repeat the cycle. Then something else similar to wariness may appear in Europe. The population.

    Tell me, the publication a few years ago in a network of chart maps on the delivery of nuclear strikes against targets on our territory, indicating cities. of the tonnage, of the zones of precipitation, you were alerted or you treated it like a stuffing, realizing that real schemes for publication are not available. Why do you think that others have similar schemes of ours will cause caution?

  25. Old26
    Old26 28 September 2015 21: 54 New
    +2
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Интересно сколько килотонн боеголовка на Искандере? С учетом его точности, это самый хороший ответ новым бомбам США, на северном море нужно дополнительно лодки типа Варшавянки разместить с ракетами "Калибр" в ядерном исполнении. 2500км прострелит всю Европу+ Ту-22 в Крыму.


    First question
    Do we have there Varshavyanka complex CLUB, or there will only be six and they will be at the Black Sea Fleet?

    The second question
    Where does the range of 2500 km come from? And why not 10000 km? After all, there is no data on these complexes. There is only delirium (stuffing) circulated on the Internet regarding such a range.
    The people do not even try to turn on the brain and calculate, but what is approximately the real range.
    Зачем? Лучше ведь постить ура-патриотические заявления о дальности "Калибра" в 2500-5000 км. And to calculate the second fuel consumption, the weight of the fuel, the coefficient of energy-mass perfection, the weight of the warhead - why, it's so tiring.
    And most importantly, then there will be disappointment when the range is several times less ... Why spoil your mood ...

    Quote: Good AAAH
    If anything, then we have Grenades from 83 years in service with YaBCh only range -3000 km.

    Yeah. That's already years 20-25 how they are removed from the ships, и вероятнее всего, как и аналогичные стратегические "томагавки" уже утилизированы

    Quote: Yak-3P
    different warheads from iskander and high-explosive and vigorous and cassettes .. how lucky ... and about the cube - I'm for !!! from there they will put - all the scribe to the hegemons - pi - to - to the thrones


    Someone wrote something correctly. most writers are not "читатели", "писатели". Прочитать предыдущие темы, или хотя бы то, что пишут другие - это ведь лишний труд. Ладно, не поленюсь написать еще раз для стратегов, предлагающих разместить "Искандеры" на Кубе

    1. Take Wikimapia (it’s best for this)
    2. Go from our territory to Cuba
    3. Активируйте вариант "военные объекты"
    4. Провести замер расстояния от Кубы и посмотрите, до каких военных объектов "Искандер" достанет.

    After that, go to the punishment of the Leningrad region. Set a mark on the territory of Estonia, and see which objects will hit similar American missiles with a range of 500 km.

    If after that you consider the destruction of Miami, with five to six military institutions like "Цетр....", расподоженных в центре города есть равноценная замена уничтожению Ленинграда с его промышленным потенциалом, верфями, базой Балтийского флота, уничтожение ракетной базы РВСН - смело размещайте ракеты "Искандер" на Кубе.
    Американцы вам за такой козырь, который позволит им легко выйти из договора РСМД, причем с формулировкой о защите национальной безопасности от "российской ракетной угрозы" - памятник поставят...

    Quote: Communist
    I am for the return of the iron curtain and jammers and more nuclear missiles should be aimed at pederast Europe and aim at Obama’s barrack the main thing is to aim more and larger missiles

    Абсолютно верно. И главное что и по нам больше таких ракет будет нацелено. Ну и фиг с ним, "назло бабушке ужи отморожу"...
  26. Old26
    Old26 28 September 2015 21: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Интересно сколько килотонн боеголовка на Искандере? С учетом его точности, это самый хороший ответ новым бомбам США, на северном море нужно дополнительно лодки типа Варшавянки разместить с ракетами "Калибр" в ядерном исполнении. 2500км прострелит всю Европу+ Ту-22 в Крыму.


    First question
    Do we have there Varshavyanka complex CLUB, or there will only be six and they will be at the Black Sea Fleet?

    The second question
    Where does the range of 2500 km come from? And why not 10000 km? After all, there is no data on these complexes. There is only delirium (stuffing) circulated on the Internet regarding such a range.
    The people do not even try to turn on the brain and calculate, but what is approximately the real range.
    Зачем? Лучше ведь постить ура-патриотические заявления о дальности "Калибра" в 2500-5000 км. And to calculate the second fuel consumption, the weight of the fuel, the coefficient of energy-mass perfection, the weight of the warhead - why, it's so tiring.
    And most importantly, then there will be disappointment when the range is several times less ... Why spoil your mood ...

    Quote: Good AAAH
    If anything, then we have Grenades from 83 years in service with YaBCh only range -3000 km.

    Yeah. That's already years 20-25 how they are removed from the ships, и вероятнее всего, как и аналогичные стратегические "томагавки" уже утилизированы

    Quote: Yak-3P
    different warheads from iskander and high-explosive and vigorous and cassettes .. how lucky ... and about the cube - I'm for !!! from there they will put - all the scribe to the hegemons - pi - to - to the thrones


    Someone wrote something correctly. most writers are not "читатели", "писатели". Прочитать предыдущие темы, или хотя бы то, что пишут другие - это ведь лишний труд. Ладно, не поленюсь написать еще раз для стратегов, предлагающих разместить "Искандеры" на Кубе

    1. Take Wikimapia (it’s best for this)
    2. Go from our territory to Cuba
    3. Активируйте вариант "военные объекты"
    4. Провести замер расстояния от Кубы и посмотрите, до каких военных объектов "Искандер" достанет.

    After that, go to the punishment of the Leningrad region. Set a mark on the territory of Estonia, and see which objects will hit similar American missiles with a range of 500 km.

    If after that you consider the destruction of Miami, with five to six military institutions like "Цетр....", расподоженных в центре города есть равноценная замена уничтожению Ленинграда с его промышленным потенциалом, верфями, базой Балтийского флота, уничтожение ракетной базы РВСН - смело размещайте ракеты "Искандер" на Кубе.
    Американцы вам за такой козырь, который позволит им легко выйти из договора РСМД, причем с формулировкой о защите национальной безопасности от "российской ракетной угрозы" - памятник поставят...

    Quote: Communist
    I am for the return of the iron curtain and jammers and more nuclear missiles should be aimed at pederast Europe and aim at Obama’s barrack the main thing is to aim more and larger missiles

    Абсолютно верно. И главное что и по нам больше таких ракет будет нацелено. Ну и фиг с ним, "назло бабушке ужи отморожу"...
  27. proletarian
    proletarian 28 September 2015 21: 59 New
    0
    Вот для того,что бы эти самолеты держались по дальше от границ России(там где их спокойно можно перехватить ракетами) и ставятся на боевое дежурство "Искандеры" и прочие "ништяки",ибо не фиг натовским "шакалам" базироваться в прибалтике,Польше,да и вообще рядом с Россией,так что в Калининградской области есть смысл и "Тополям" уютное "гнездышко" обустроить.
  28. 4ekist
    4ekist 28 September 2015 22: 05 New
    0
    Quote: RUSIVAN
    "Iskanders" -sobering better cucumber pickle ...

    Exactly, they’ll get to Berlin.
  29. Old26
    Old26 28 September 2015 22: 39 New
    0
    Quote: proletarian
    есть смысл и "Тополям" уютное "гнездышко" обустроить.

    Смысл? Вы видите смысл поставить наши стратегические ракеты под удар обычной артиллерии? В чем сакральный смысл размещения "тополей" в анклаве, который насквозь простреливается артиллерией??? Это "уютно гнездышко" для "Тополя" может стать его "Уютной могилой"....