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Country 404. Kiev impressions of a citizen of Israel

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It turned out that one of my regular interlocutors, a citizen of Israel, recently visited Kiev. Naturally, I could not get past such a fact, so we talked to him, and I bring his impressions to your attention.


In general, I fly to Kiev once a year. To relatives The mother-in-law and mother-in-law in Kiev oblige, especially since I have such a relationship with them, which is even pleasant. That flew the family this year.

Over the past year, Kiev and Kiev have changed, and not for the better.

Immediately struck by the fact that the standard of living dramatically went down. This is evident from the range in stores, and the most indicative, by the number of buyers. Machines are noticeably smaller. It is clear that not everyone can afford gasoline for a dollar per liter. And who works in a taxi, the prices, I will say, are such that you begin to understand that the Jewish nature has nothing to do with it. Exceptionally logic and sober reflection that you offer ZAZ "Chance" as a vehicle at the price of a helicopter.

I am used to the fact that Kiev is a beautiful city. The capital is all the same. To say that everything is sad in terms of cleanliness, of course, is impossible, but it looks somehow untidy. It is evident that they are trying to maintain order, but, whether there is no money for it, or desire. And most likely, all together.

People, too, are changing.

There is a constant press on television. I will say straight away that the mova was not able to master even at the minimum level. So God spared, I do not understand her at all. But the fact that in every second gear you can hear quite familiar words “Russia”, “Crimea”, “occupation”, “separatists”, “terrorists” - definitely. Well, the facial expression is immediately evident. When the next material begins about something connected with the Donbas and Russia (and there it only goes together), the faces become so special. Significant, but as if the cardboard gorged on.

And, of course, not a word in Russian. Although in the programs of some channels the guests quite speak to themselves. But leading - only in Ukrainian.

On the streets, the majority also use Russian. There were several cases when I was addressed in Ukrainian. But then you cut in the program "we ourselves are not local, we came to visit" - and any homicidal person immediately switched to a completely understandable Russian.

(Note from the author: I’m generally surprised that at every corner his passport was not demanded when they found out that he wasn’t in the wrong place. For not only is the exterior completely Slavic, it’s also the size - even now in the OMON. It’s clear that they are not allowed to come from Russia to Ukraine, but vigilance should take place.)

What they say Kiev. Mostly backstage topic is Crimea. Donbass try to get round, it seems like it is not. “Silence is more beneficial for health,” one comrade told me. The fact that the road to Europe is covered with an enamelled pelvis, everyone understands, except perhaps the most rabid. Yes, especially in this Europe no one breaks. It came to almost everyone, oddly enough.

Basically, if you ask what you want, the answer is one: we want to live better. At least as if Yanukovych lived. After all, not bad, in general, lived.

Surprised by the complete inertia towards power. It seems that everyone deeply does not care about who and how at the helm. I ask that you will elect a nickname for a second term? No, the nickname in the furnace. We will not elect. Who? Yes, we choose someone ... but not a nickname. So who ??? Well, there will be someone else ...

On the other hand, against the background of constant hysteria about the war with Russia, a lot of people understand that Ukraine is in a difficult and unequal struggle with the external aggressor. And this war already has its heroes and victories.



I visited the Motherland Motherland Memorial with my family. Beautiful monument, a wonderful museum dedicated to the Great Patriotic War. But in the museum, that under the statue, I was waiting for innovation: an exhibition of the heroes of the ATO. Right in the first room. Stands with photos, descriptions of feats. And army green boxes as showcases with exhibits - personal belongings of ATO heroes.

To the average person who does not want to plunge into politics in principle, all cries on TV to one place. And so it is clear that Russia is to blame for everything. It is harder for me to judge the younger generation, but the fact that the museum was full of visitors is alarming. Because here you are the heroes of the Great Patriotic War (or, as they say, the Great War for Ukraine), but you are the heroes of the ATO. Equated.

And the difference (with whom and against whom these heroes fought) does not annoy anyone. Decided so upstairs, so it should be. So be it.

With my Israeli principles, it was difficult for me to digest all this.

Amused "Police Academy". Here are just African Americans did not have enough to fully feel that you are somewhere overseas. Funny boys and girls (well, it is, one youth rolls), funny shape. They go only two by one, in the sense, one plus one. There are few, mostly on the machines cut through. They talk. But somehow it is semi-come true, but the mood is rising.



In general, if you have money, then life in Kiev is completely for yourself. Prices is a fly. Compared to Israeli. Straight country "duty free". Well, where have you seen it, fat, this is Ukrainian fat (I love, yes, gently and reverently) - 160 hryvnia per kilo? If ours, then 12 shekels? We also have pigs, how strange it will not seem to you, but we are different. In short, not that at all. Although they say that a pig is also a pig in Africa, but here we have more African pigs. And they are fed with all sorts of spoiled oranges. What kind of fat can we talk about?

Especially for an Israeli (I emphasize) of Soviet origin, and even with a Kiev resident.

These are the first impressions. Yes, Kiev residents live in Kiev. Inertly, but live. And they will live. The whole question is how. In general, it is difficult, in terms of earnings, and in terms of prices. And on the brains are under pressure. But live.

By the way, unlike last year, I have not seen a single pravosek for a week in Kiev. All these black and red in balaclava seemed to evaporate. It is not clear, of course, because last year their crowds dissected through Kiev. But it certainly did not get any worse. Cleaner.
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 29 September 2015 05: 20 New
    +69
    I also communicate with Kiev constantly. Thank God, they also have Skype on the Internet. I have relatives and friends there. I haven’t talked with my relatives for almost a year (they didn’t want to have anything in common with the invaders), but then we got an epiphany and we’re relatives again They turned out to be “needed”. It’s easier with friends. They are younger and do not watch zombies. They say they need to leave. Someone is already abroad, who is in Russia. The rest are still interrupted, but they say that they will not be there too long. The people became impoverished for a year .If two years ago we with them in August in Crimea had a rest in winter, and in winter abroad. even thoughts about any vacation are not allowed. And these are young people who earn at least something! And it’s not enough! How can pensioners and low-income groups survive, I don’t understand ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 September 2015 06: 13 New
      +61
      (Note from the author: I generally wonder how they didn’t require a passport on every corner when they found out that he was on the wrong side. For not only was his appearance completely Slavic, it’s also the size - even now in OMON
      Roma, therefore, did not require it, when in front of you there is an amnal of 1.90 growth, how much it is to run into wassat
      1. atalef
        atalef 29 September 2015 06: 25 New
        +16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Roma, therefore, did not require it, when in front of you there is an amnal of 1.90 growth, how much it is to run into

        Yes, okay, 1.84.
        Hi Sanya. hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 September 2015 06: 35 New
          +13
          Quote: atalef
          Yes, okay, 1.84.

          Plus heels +2, and + hat and that 1.95. And big always seems even bigger belay Healthy
          1. WUA 518
            WUA 518 29 September 2015 09: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Plus heels +2, and + hat and that 1.95

            laughing
        2. andj61
          andj61 29 September 2015 08: 49 New
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Roma, therefore, did not require it, when in front of you there is an amnal of 1.90 growth, how much it is to run into
          Yes, okay, 1.84.

          As I understand it, the Israeli comrade with his wife from Kiev, who recently visited Kiev - has already deciphered? wink
          For some reason he also indicated his growth ... what
          On this really - run into oh how fraught!
          Hi Sanya! hi
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 29 September 2015 09: 08 New
            +21
            Quote: andj61
            and this really - run into oh how fraught!

            The real Kogan is a Barbarian! Hollywood is resting! laughing
          2. atalef
            atalef 29 September 2015 13: 21 New
            +8
            Hi Andrew !! hi
            Quote: andj61
            For some reason he also indicated his growth.

            Well, this is to roughly calculate the volume of the stomach laughing
            Quote: andj61
            On this really - run into oh how fraught!

            Yes, okay, I'm kind and peaceful. love
            1. andj61
              andj61 29 September 2015 14: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              Well, this is to roughly calculate the volume of the stomach

              Yeah, so I believed ... fool
              Although I can also brag about the volume of my stomach - a dozen cm lower than you: small, bald, fat! repeat drinks
              Impressions, of course, from the article are not painfully positive - for Russia, but this completely coincides with my opinion: I live near the border, we are connected with the square by hundreds of threads: relatives, friends, acquaintances, etc. Everything is exactly so, except for one thing: the cost of fat is just off the scale! stop bully
              But you already corrected in your comments. good
              I didn’t even buy at 80, but at 60-70 hryvnia, though not in the capital ... yes
              Quote: atalef
              Yes, okay, I'm kind and peaceful.

              Yes, we know you - peaceful and kind ... crying
              Also say that you can embroider a cross! repeat
              Like in the classics:
              We are peaceful people, but our armored train ... soldier
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 29 September 2015 08: 38 New
        +29
        Hello Sasha! It’s completely allowed, though just in case, for example, we go on a blue passport on a business trip. And in Kiev and the Dnieper ... In the Dnieper I remember some kind of crazy lady of Balzac age (apparently chronically deprived of sexual pleasures) seeing my 184 and 100 she asked why not in the ATO? It was necessary to see her face when she received an answer that is forbidden to be voiced on the site ... In short, in the city the Reds, sorry, Putin’s agents ... It was fun, for which I love Ukraine. smile
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 29 September 2015 11: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: Ascetic
          In short, in the city of red, sorry, agents of Putin ...

          Reds in the city is cool ... laughing
        2. atalef
          atalef 29 September 2015 13: 25 New
          +3
          Hello Stanislav hi
          Quote: Ascetic
          seeing my 184 and 100 I asked why not in the ATO?

          Well, you and I are equally careless good
          They didn’t ask me, because I don’t understand at all on mov, although maybe they asked, but I didn’t understand laughing
          Quote: Ascetic
          It was fun, for which I love Ukraine.

          Yes, in general, Kiev is a pleasant city, and then there is a vodka, barbecue, bathhouse. Class
          hi
      3. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 September 2015 15: 26 New
        +3
        Skororokhov’s someone’s sedan is moving article after article that the plan for the month did not laughing although everything is on the level
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 29 September 2015 09: 37 New
      +3
      In principle, the dynamics - towards the level of Moldova, and that - towards Romania ... in general, one way or another - to Europe! laughing
    3. twviewer
      twviewer 29 September 2015 11: 08 New
      +8
      Offended by Russia? see beautiful stories tell how the Crimea fought, as Potemkin, Rumyantsev, Suvorov, Kutuzov were at the great ukrov on the premises ?! :)
    4. Jan Ivanov
      Jan Ivanov 29 September 2015 11: 29 New
      +26
      A similar story is with us. Only relatives (by the way, Russians) are not in Kiev. They also did not communicate with the year, they also began gradually. But I don’t want to talk anymore, they didn’t give a shit thoroughly to my soul. Someday pass. Probably.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 29 September 2015 18: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Jan Ivanov
        A similar story is with us.
        And with us! and we have! What a polyphonic echo here! Of course, I’m a mother-in-law ... But the wife herself from Chernigov stopped talking to her mother.
        1. Jan Ivanov
          Jan Ivanov 29 September 2015 23: 58 New
          +5
          What tryndets made scum.
      2. Nzn
        Nzn 1 October 2015 03: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Jan Ivanov
        But I don’t want to talk already ...

        There is one. But we have to. All are not strangers.
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    6. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 29 September 2015 20: 45 New
      +13
      Russian tourists visiting Bandera:
  2. Michael_59
    Michael_59 29 September 2015 05: 43 New
    +8
    Quote: Magic Archer
    need to leave


    The key phase.

    Either stupidly kill Russian-Ukrainians, or by emigration to remove them from Russian land - these are the goals and plans of the puppeteers-Satanists.
  3. Riv
    Riv 29 September 2015 05: 45 New
    +32
    Well so in Berlin in 1944 people lived. They lived normally, and whoever with the dough is not bad at all. Guilty of everything was - Stalin. The Führer was also.
    True, a year later, Russian artillery began to beat across Berlin ...
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 29 September 2015 18: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      Guilty of everything was - Stalin.
      and Lancaster and Boeing.
    2. dali
      dali 30 September 2015 20: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      Well so in Berlin in 1944 people lived. They lived normally, and whoever with the dough is not bad at all. Guilty of everything was - Stalin. The Führer was also.


      Directly not in the eyebrow, but in the eye !!!
  4. mik0588
    mik0588 29 September 2015 05: 50 New
    +7
    There is no punishment without guilt ....
    1. neznayka
      neznayka 29 September 2015 11: 26 New
      +2
      Well, I wouldn’t litter such cliches. Although if you take into account the classic "You are to blame for what I want to eat," then you are undoubtedly right.
      This is me in general, and not about the "neighbors" in particular.
      1. Petrix
        Petrix 29 September 2015 11: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: neznayka
        "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat,"

        To blame. This ram is to blame for the fact that he did not know, he went far from the herd, without asking, .... As the saying goes: "That's what the pike is in the lake so that the crucian carp does not doze off."
        Therefore, you can blame the "bad" for evil deeds, but you need to blame the "good" for inaction.
        1. neznayka
          neznayka 29 September 2015 15: 28 New
          +3
          Iron logic. Well, this is your choice. Always be in the herd, that is, like everyone else, do everything only with permission or as directed, and most importantly, never step over the line of the unknown. Only then do not be surprised that Leonardo da Vinci or Lomonosov did not come out of you and your entourage.
          And punishment without guilt happens in our life and unfortunately very often. A simple example of children and the elderly of Donbass.
  5. Brother
    Brother 29 September 2015 06: 03 New
    +6
    for an Israeli (I emphasize) of Soviet descent, and even with his wife Kiev

    Is it such a nationality? How is a Muscovite?
  6. radogos
    radogos 29 September 2015 06: 07 New
    -26
    ki got things done, pockets were full, and people were suffering, their brains were beaten by the blood brothers ... THERE IS HELP OUR HELP, NOT HATE!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 September 2015 06: 17 New
      +17
      Quote: radogos
      .. OUR HELP IS NEEDED FOR THEM, NOT HATE!

      And what help do you offer?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 29 September 2015 07: 11 New
        +22
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what help do you offer?


        ... even with this level of hatred towards us! ...
        They also mock at the help!
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 29 September 2015 08: 12 New
        +13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what help do you offer?

        Money, what else. laughing They will mature.
      3. marlin1203
        marlin1203 29 September 2015 09: 39 New
        +9
        Set aside the "Tolstoyism"! We are not an order of hospitaliers who are all stubborn and unfortunate and poor to help.
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      5. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 29 September 2015 09: 42 New
        +3
        Well, if the brains are clogged, then you need to clean the gyrus with a clove, and for this, the trepanation of the brain skull fellow
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 29 September 2015 07: 35 New
      +31
      beat the brothers blood brain ..... and here Russia is to blame .. it was Russia who zombified the Ukrainians: overthrow Yanukovych, go to Europe, for lace underpants and a Schengen visa, this is Russia, threw the slogan of beat padded coats and coloradas, burn them in the house of trade unions, this Russia proposed to shoot people in Donbass, and finally, it was Russia, drove to the United States and brought the government from there, and Georgia asked Saakashvili to send a parcel ..?
    3. Senior manager
      Senior manager 29 September 2015 15: 06 New
      +6
      You can only help someone who does something. It is intended.
    4. ankir13
      ankir13 29 September 2015 17: 02 New
      +6
      Won you do not catch. No matter how you help, you’ll be a cursed one anyway. Even for help from snickering, scoffing at the memory of the heroes of the atom, by this, you will still be guilty. And they will still be ready to stick a knife in the back, as in Odessa 2.05 14. As with the Crimea, surrendered to the amers under the base of the Navy and the PRO. Hundreds of previous years of normal life, all have Slavic, almost Russian names, it did not lead to anything! Hatred of the Russians rushing from all the cracks, wolves and won’t feed it ... Anyway. The land of Kiev was given to the Russian enemies.
  7. fvandaku
    fvandaku 29 September 2015 06: 10 New
    +6
    Enlightenment will come to Bondirastan, a little later, after winter. laughing Or maybe on time.
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 September 2015 06: 36 New
      +30
      Quote: fvandaku
      Enlightenment will come to Bondirastan, a little later, after winter. laughing Or maybe on time.

      Insight will not come. Yes, and use the word insight - not right (maybe it can be either one way or the other)
      What I clearly understood is that
      Dissatisfaction with their authorities and (I would not call hate, but) the deepest resentment against Russia is absolutely no overlapping concepts.
      It doesn’t matter who they elect, re-elect, or reassign.
      There will be no pro-Russian sentiments (as it seemed to me) - this is facilitated by both propaganda and a large amount of spilled blood.
      Again, I can only speak my personal opinion and nothing more.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 29 September 2015 07: 30 New
        -24
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: fvandaku
        Enlightenment will come to Bondirastan, a little later, after winter. laughing Or maybe on time.

        Insight will not come. Yes, and use the word insight - not right (maybe it can be either one way or the other)
        What I clearly understood is that
        Dissatisfaction with their authorities and (I would not call hate, but) the deepest resentment against Russia is absolutely no overlapping concepts.
        It doesn’t matter who they elect, re-elect, or reassign.
        There will be no pro-Russian sentiments (as it seemed to me) - this is facilitated by both propaganda and a large amount of spilled blood.
        Again, I can only speak my personal opinion and nothing more.

        I think a lot will depend on the outcome of this war. If Ukrainians do not return Crimea and the Dnieper-LNR, then, as it were, the rejection of the Russian Federation will not be there for a long time and will be instilled in the children (next) generation through a school-TV, etc. If they return it in one way or another, then such a rejection will be less so that we have gloriously fought (as the former Dushmans now recall the war with the USSR). There is at least some justification for the fallen living standards in Ukraine, like a war, and in the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Republic of Belarus without a war, the standard of living has dropped significantly over the past year, and according to our president, these will be flowers and berries next year. So gentlemen, comrade readers of VO in various republics of the CIS are preparing for difficult times.
        1. atalef
          atalef 29 September 2015 13: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Semurg
          I think a lot will depend on the outcome of this war

          Of course.
          If Donbass leaves Russia, resentment will turn into hatred
          If he returns to Ukraine, his fingers will be spread out and they will say that they * lowered her *
          in general, no matter where you throw it - everywhere a wedge
          Quote: Semurg
          If the Ukrainians do not return Crimea and the Dnieper-LNR, then, as it were, the rejection of the Russian Federation will not be there for a long time and will be vaccinated for children

          100%
          Quote: Semurg
          If they return it in one way or another, then such a rejection will be less so that we have gloriously fought (as the former Dushmans now recall the war with the USSR).

          Well, we just look the same - hi
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 29 September 2015 19: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            If Donbass leaves Russia, resentment will turn into hatred

            The problem is that the integration time of Donbass has been missed and no one can say what it will come to now. There was not enough political will.
        2. Midshipman
          Midshipman 29 September 2015 13: 47 New
          +7
          There is still a third option - to tidy up the whole of Ukraine (preferably without blood), and immediately release it. But on a short leash. Well, the correct textbooks to write.
      2. max702
        max702 29 September 2015 09: 50 New
        +22
        Quote: atalef
        Insight will not come

        Under the policy that Russia is leading, YES WILL NOT COME .. We give them discounts on gas, and coal on credit, and electricity, and petroleum products, and a market for the sale of goods (vodka, cookies, sweets, etc.), the labor market is that way 3-5 million Gaster (and how many hard-working girls send homework loans ..), direct financing loans from the Russian government and the same Sberbank, no one canceled the opportunities for Ukrainian oligarchs (they left Mariupol to Ahmetka) .. So with such support, the ruinda will last longer take into account my mantra .s.kali are to blame for everything. But if the hope of our authorities holding that Ukraine will get IM sooner or later (in a not very tidy look with a lunar landscape and a brutal population extinct by 50-60%) then tightening the nuts and bringing this geographical formation to the handle is not very difficult .. They are alive and well and healthy so far only by the grace of their neighbors .. Will it be, or will we step on the rake again "understand and forgive" time will tell ..
        1. Zverboy
          Zverboy 1 October 2015 00: 44 New
          +4
          + 100%, while Russia itself is not completely isolated from Ukraine - insight will not come here. I do not understand why discounts on gas and other nishtyaki. Now they will start supplying coal from Donbass, they spit on you from the big belfry of the Ukrainian government on Russians, and Russia swallows it or is I wrong? Ah, they even answered in a mirror - they banned Ukrainian litak to Russia, hurray at least that. My daughter in the 7th grade wonders how it was Shevchenko and Franco and others. Repeatedly awarded with Russian awards, how can this be? And she was very surprised when it turned out that they lived in the Russian Empire. The teacher was unpleasantly surprised to learn from her daughter that Ilya Muromets, the saint ridiculed by her, and his relics were in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra.
          Guys, here propaganda and the media are perverted to the fullest, as they say, water and stone grind, only the most complete sanctions and a complete embargo on Ukraine will help.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 29 September 2015 07: 28 New
      +15
      Quote: fvandaku
      Enlightenment will come to Bondirastan, a little later after winter

      Yes, nothing will come to them! Before last winter, they also hoped for it ...
  8. Egoza
    Egoza 29 September 2015 06: 30 New
    +30
    But tovarisch sure that he saw Ukrainian fat? We have been selling Polish for a long time! Therefore, the price is that.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 September 2015 06: 38 New
      +13
      Quote: Egoza
      But tovarisch sure that he saw Ukrainian fat? We have been selling Polish for a long time!

      Ahahaha, Sanya you Kinuliiiii wassat
    2. atalef
      atalef 29 September 2015 06: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      But tovarisch sure that he saw Ukrainian fat? We have been selling Polish for a long time! Therefore, the price is that.

      And for me on the drum (dear Elena) - the truth is Roman was mistaken, it is 80 hryvnias, but somehow it seems to me that you are a little cunning in this, as fat and lard were absolutely paired.
  9. Andy
    Andy 29 September 2015 06: 48 New
    +18
    Quote: radogos
    ki got things done, pockets were full, and people were suffering, their brains were beaten by the blood brothers ... THERE IS HELP OUR HELP, NOT HATE


    help in what? in the murder of the inhabitants of Donbas? a colleague in a family whines at a colleague that it’s impossible to live expensively, but to be proud of the fact that he defends the land, fights. to a colleague’s question, With KEM, he is fighting, with his people, the answer is from Moskva l Yami. Here, so part of the family is Moska, and part is Banderlog.
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 September 2015 06: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Andy
      a colleague in a family whines at a colleague that it’s impossible to live expensively, but to be proud that he protects

      That's about the fact that Ukraine has created its own pantheon of heroes, and this is for a long time.
      And the presence of the exposition in the WWII Museum speaks for itself.
      By the way, at the entrance to the Motherland Motherland complex - destroyed military equipment with explanations in 3 languages ​​is displayed, what it is, where it comes from and what kind of Russian chat rooms it refers to.
      There were BTR, BMD and Grad.
      1. Bombardier
        Bombardier 29 September 2015 09: 12 New
        +10
        Quote: atalef

        By the way, at the entrance to the Motherland Motherland complex - destroyed military equipment with explanations in 3 languages ​​is displayed, what it is, where it comes from and what kind of Russian chat rooms it refers to.
        There were BTR, BMD and Grad.


        Was Armata? Her "pounded" for be healthy! laughing
        In general, Alexander, it would be better if they wrote on their own (and everything is as it really is), I think in the first person it would be more interesting and reliable to us. hi
        1. atalef
          atalef 29 September 2015 13: 31 New
          +8
          Quote: Bombardier
          In general, Alexander, it would be better if they wrote on their own (and everything is as it really is), I think in the first person it would be more interesting and reliable to us

          so we generally spoke with Roman - they said, he decided to write.
          He didn’t tell everything, probably was forgotten between the toasts, but in general the vector is correct.
          In general, Roman respect (although one could have warned that the article is preparing) hi
      2. Forest
        Forest 29 September 2015 10: 15 New
        +1
        Did you happen to take a photo of this technique?
  10. mamont5
    mamont5 29 September 2015 07: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    (Note from the author: I generally wonder how they didn’t require a passport on every corner when they found out that he was on the wrong side. For not only was his appearance completely Slavic, it’s also the size - even now in OMON
    Roma, therefore, did not require it, when in front of you there is an amnal of 1.90 growth, how much it is to run into wassat

    So against scrap there is no reception. And against AK, all the more.
  11. Scud
    Scud 29 September 2015 07: 26 New
    +16
    Ukrainians are a cowardly, ungrateful, aching nation. A. Turchinov. Newspaper, Evening News, Nr. 141 September 2003.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 30 September 2015 19: 02 New
      0
      Quote: scud
      Ukrainians are a cowardly, ungrateful, aching nation. A. Turchinov

      Everything is right from his point of view. They don’t want to freeze, they do not want to in the ATO, they shy away from mobilization, and they don’t want to endure “perestroika” silently.
      If you analyze the statements on the Censor, then during the break of the Russian obsessing Ukrainians amicably rinse their government
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 29 September 2015 07: 36 New
    +4
    What can we say that they wanted it and got it, everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds ...
  13. wandlitz
    wandlitz 29 September 2015 07: 52 New
    +4
    The view of the situation from the side is always more objective.
    So, shouting about Russia's aggression against the “non-fallow” one is bullshit.
    To the author for the article +.
  14. Rigla
    Rigla 29 September 2015 07: 53 New
    +21
    Enough of illusions, they say they are our brothers.
    They have always been like that. Is always. And at the turn of the 80s - 90s and a quarter century later. I’m not talking about Western Ukraine now, everything is clear there - slaves who have been washing pots for their masters over the centuries (Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Austrians, etc.), I’m talking about central Ukraine, they hate us. Sometimes I go to the Kharkov forum, and so there 99% of forum users are frank Nazis, but a city-wide forum with hundreds of thousands of forum users is an ideal sample! IMHO you need:
    1). The wall on the border, so that the mouse does not slip.
    2). Block all roads, no cars, trains, buses, planes, communication only through third countries.
    3). The most severe visa regime. Do you want to communicate with your relatives in Belarus, etc.
    4). Deep relations without ambassadors, only a few diplomats at the embassy and consulate.
    5). FULL RIP of all relations (economic, cultural, social, etc.), leave the pipe only until 2019.
    6). To deport all citizens of Ukraine in a short time, to remove from all gates, to expel all within a month (except for political refugees, refugees from the Donbass, give them Russian citizenship).
    7). All residents of Ukraine who wished to leave for the Russian Federation immediately be granted citizenship of the Russian Federation (!!!!! subject to a full-scale survey, including a lie detector - whether he was on the Maidan, whether he participated in the ATO, if he sympathized with the current authorities and other Bandera people, did he help them, how do you feel about Russia, etc.). Thus, all the normal will leave for the Russian Federation, and the mad Nazis will die in Bandera.
    8). All you can help Donbass.
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 29 September 2015 09: 47 New
      -5
      Quote: Rigla
      1). The wall on the border, so that the mouse does not slip.
      2). Block all roads, no cars, trains, buses, planes, communication only through third countries.
      3) .....
      ......

      Trying to imitate Dzhemilev and Chubarov?
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 29 September 2015 10: 37 New
        +7
        .... Are you trying to imitate Dzhemilev and Chubarov? ...

        ... I think he is just a realist ....
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 2 October 2015 19: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Serg Koma
        Trying to imitate Dzhemilev and Chubarov?

        It’s just that if there is no normal border, penetration and provocation are not ruled out. As they wrote, in a village they kidnapped a soldier with a brother? I don’t think that 100% were kidnapped, maybe even this is an excuse. But who will guarantee that tomorrow Yarosh will not show up for Russian territory?
    2. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 29 September 2015 11: 00 New
      +3
      They have always been like that. Is always


      Dear Anton! hi I'm afraid you greatly exaggerate when you talk about endless hatred towards Russians, at all times and by all without exception! He visited the glorious city of Kiev on May Day 2013, but he spent about a week there. Believe it or not, you don’t feel any hatred towards yourself during this time! True, the friends with whom I went there nevertheless ran into an incomprehensible Svidomo taxi driver who refused to speak Russian with them, but this is so ... in particular ... To be honest, we behaved very abhorrently on this trip - beer, and even something stronger, in broad daylight, and in the city center, night clubs, going to a restaurant in flip flops and shorts - there’s nothing to be proud of in short! Then we went - to have a good time bully But I repeat - no problems and conflicts! This is six months before the Maidan!
    3. hjcuhfybwf
      hjcuhfybwf 29 September 2015 12: 47 New
      +1
      Look at Sharia, the separatists' confessions are painted there; basically these bastards left comments on the forums now sitting in the SBU for treason.
    4. Cat man null
      Cat man null 29 September 2015 12: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Rigla
      Enough of illusions, they say they are our brothers.
      They have always been like that ...

      Dear, you already posted this tenth month in September ten times (eight for sure).

      Did you like it so much, or are there just no other thoughts?

      Nothing personal, it just became interesting ..
    5. mervino2007
      mervino2007 29 September 2015 13: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Rigla
      all normal will leave for the Russian Federation, and the frenzied Nazis will die in Bandera.

      So our relatives live there. They have housing, cottages, and relatives' graves there. What, quit everything? Or sell for nothing? Everyone speaks Russian, entirely, in cities. Maybe stop helping the Krajina government with discounts? Sobering up the economy? Faster pass the dark section of life?
    6. mervino2007
      mervino2007 29 September 2015 13: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Rigla
      all normal will leave for the Russian Federation, and the frenzied Nazis will die in Bandera.

      So our relatives live there. They have housing, cottages, and relatives' graves there. What, quit everything? Or sell for nothing? Everyone speaks Russian, entirely, in cities. Maybe stop helping the Krajina government with discounts? Sobering up the economy? Faster pass the dark section of life?
    7. yehat
      yehat 30 September 2015 22: 07 New
      +1
      you got too excited
      in fact, you need to do something completely different - to develop your industry, as well as agriculture in the Krasnodar Territory. Finish the southern stream and establish a message to the Crimea.
      And then they will see that ANYONE is not needed and that nothing is to be sold to anyone, then they themselves will understand everything. And there is no need to explain or prove anything or ask. You just need to think about yourself or, for example, about trade with Serbs or Czechs who are respected by Russians
  15. BecmepH
    BecmepH 29 September 2015 08: 02 New
    +11
    I'll cry right now. Does the author want us to feel sorry for the neighbors? We held out their hand for a long time, persuaded them for a long time, and they spat on our faces. Let grief utter to the fullest. They might grow wiser ... Now we don’t have to go to them ourselves. They’ll ask for help, then let's go meet.
  16. Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 29 September 2015 08: 03 New
    +3
    But I have questions for Russian diplomacy and intelligence..with the geopolitical and economic importance of Ukraine for Russia! How could all this be allowed to happen? !!
    1. yehat
      yehat 30 September 2015 22: 14 New
      +2
      it all started under Gorbachev and Yeltsin
      we had too many problems of our own to closely monitor what was happening in Ukraine, and our "elite" only recently realized that stuffing our pockets is not everything.
  17. Vladimir
    Vladimir 29 September 2015 09: 15 New
    -25
    It is interesting where this Jewess saw fat at 160 UAH per kilogram, and where in Kiev there were fewer cars.
    1. Neksel
      Neksel 30 September 2015 03: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir
      It is interesting where this Jewess saw fat at 160 UAH per kilogram, and where in Kiev there were fewer cars.

      Quote: Alget87
      Vladimir, you’ve confused the sites, you’re obviously not here, and then if you’re here often, you should already know that the author of the article was atalef, and this son of Israel was not seen with great sympathy for us, so most likely the article is close to the truth.


      Itself was in July a week in Kiev, compared with the same period 2 years ago, I did not notice the difference on the roads. All the same "toffees" (as they are called there) and traffic jams. And he traveled around the city a lot, including 200 km from Kiev, there and back, he also grumbled slightly on the tracks. Salo - 80 hryvnias (but it has already been fixed). Almost all prices seemed ridiculous. Taxis to any end of the city are cheaper than our one-time travel by public transport. People (at least whom I had a chance to chat with - strangers) are mostly quite welcoming, by the way, unlike Moscow itself (impressions a year ago). Black and red are nowhere to be seen. Only empty checkpoints with flags at the entrances to the city. Strange, but walked in the center and at night, 2-3 nights, absolutely safe. Unlike the year before last, then we didn’t particularly recommend such a maximum taxi, and then not until the very entrance (so as not to go to the apartment). In general, the impressions are rather mixed ...
  18. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 29 September 2015 09: 29 New
    +6
    Vladimir, you’ve confused the sites, you’re obviously not here, and then if you’re here often, you should already know that the author of the article was atalef, and this son of Israel was not seen with great sympathy for us, so most likely the article is close to the truth.
  19. Vladimir
    Vladimir 29 September 2015 09: 51 New
    +5
    Quote: Alget87
    most likely the article is close to the truth.

    I don’t pretend to state the veracity of the article which describes the moments of life in Israel, but at what price normal ordinary people buy fat, I certainly know, and if you stumble around expensive restaurants, of course you can find fat even for UAH 320. If I can’t stand politics Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk then I’m directly saying, but if I buy lard for 70 UAH, I’m also saying so directly.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 29 September 2015 09: 58 New
      +12
      Quote: Vladimir
      , and if you stumble around expensive restaurants, then of course you can find fat and 320 UAH.

      Oh how! Do you have fat in expensive restaurants? smile Yes, it's cooler than caviar - you can’t forbid living beautifully laughing
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 29 September 2015 12: 34 New
        +2
        Always served. Back in 2004, he ate in a restaurant next to the Mother Motherland monument. It was considered then an expensive place.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 29 September 2015 12: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: fzr1000
          Always served. Back in 2004, he ate in a restaurant next to the Mother Motherland monument.

          And in Rostov we have such a restaurant - "Hlib i Salo"
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 29 September 2015 11: 11 New
      +1
      If I don’t tolerate the policies of Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk, I’ll say it directly, and if I buy lard for 70 UAH, I’ll also say it so directly. ,,
      calmly comrade, you were just in different stores drinks
    3. atalef
      atalef 29 September 2015 13: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir
      if I don’t tolerate the policies of Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk, I’ll say it directly, and if I buy lard for 70 UAH, I’ll also say it directly.

      so I bought at 80 (read my comments), Roman beguiled.
    4. yehat
      yehat 30 September 2015 22: 18 New
      +1
      lard, lard, lard ...
      Are you using it instead of bread ???
      instead of tea or coffee - a decoction of fat, instead of sweets - fat in chocolate
      like in a horror movie am
  20. Nonna
    Nonna 29 September 2015 10: 00 New
    +1
    . Somewhere I walked, I asked the lard. What is his passport? Israeli? Some kind of threshing floor in VO print. Shame. Better print articles about the Heroes of the USSR and Russia more. About the news in the world of military equipment, exercises and weapons. And then zadolbal already with unfinished. Spit on them all. Russia owes nothing to anyone.
  21. provincial
    provincial 29 September 2015 11: 14 New
    +4
    a little joke- "September 29, 2015 10:22
    Evgenia Vasilieva checked for involvement in new crimes "- interfax.
    1. andj61
      andj61 29 September 2015 11: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: provincial
      a little joke- "September 29, 2015 10:22
      Evgenia Vasilieva checked for involvement in new crimes "- interfax.


      What's the point? She still let down again under the amnesty!
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 29 September 2015 20: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: andj61
        What's the point? She still let down again under the amnesty!

        subscription ????? belay
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 30 September 2015 01: 29 New
        +1
        andj61 SU Yesterday, 11:22 ↑ New
        Quote: provincial
        a little joke- "September 29, 2015 10:22
        Evgenia Vasilieva checked for involvement in new crimes "- interfax.

        What's the point? She still let down again under the amnesty!


        And then it’s counting and counting until it turns blue!
  22. 31rus
    31rus 29 September 2015 11: 23 New
    +9
    It’s good to argue while sitting in safety and warmth, I live on the border with Ukraine and I repeat the Kharkov region and other close ones to Russia 1000 times, who are most riddled with saliva, that Russia is to blame for everything, and at the same time they enjoy all the benefits and calmly wander back and forth , so where are you "brothers"? They’re ready to help you, and you will die and bring charges
    1. mult-65
      mult-65 29 September 2015 16: 27 New
      +1
      I agree with the fellow countryman. In Kharkov, 80 km from us, I have not been since 2013, they do not let me go. And Ukrainians are welcome to us.
  23. Filing
    Filing 29 September 2015 11: 35 New
    +8
    Look at the story with the recruitment in the SS "Galicia". In Western Ukraine, 63 thousand volunteers signed up. Today, relying on this zapadenske b..lo removed Yanukovych. Now in Ukraine there are two authorities: Poroshenko and Kolomoisky. One has official power and the other has official army volunteer battalions. When a breakthrough no one knows.
    I live in Kirovograd and have a “lying” father-in-law. Last year, I paid 350 UAH for electric heating. Now the price of electricity has been tripled, the subsidy is given for 100 kW when 750 kW was used for heating. They did not raise their pension, in the summer they have enough for his medicine and food. What to do with the old man? I ask everyone this question. Silence ...
    I know a "nationally conscious Ukrainian" he has another problem, the gas price was raised seven times. He cannot issue a subsidy. What will you do in winter - the answer: I do not know.
    And with such an event, many people were put on the brink of survival.
    Must break through.
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 September 2015 13: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: FilinG
      Now the price of electricity has been tripled, the subsidy is given for 100 kW when 750 kW was used for heating. They did not raise their pension, in the summer they have enough for his medicine and food. What to do with the old man? I ask everyone this question. Silence ...

      If the children do not help - it’s bad.
      I send 300 to 500 bucks every month.
      But how else, gasoline - a dollar liter, mother-in-law's pension - 120 bucks and father-in-law - 170.
      1. cyberspace
        cyberspace 29 September 2015 14: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        I send 300 to 500 bucks every month.
        But how else, gasoline - a dollar liter, mother-in-law's pension - 120 bucks and father-in-law - 170.

        With such a price tag, it’s cheaper to take relatives to yourself, at least temporarily.
        1. atalef
          atalef 29 September 2015 14: 28 New
          +6
          Quote: siber
          Quote: atalef
          I send 300 to 500 bucks every month.
          But how else, gasoline - a dollar liter, mother-in-law's pension - 120 bucks and father-in-law - 170.

          With such a price tag, it’s cheaper to take relatives to yourself, at least temporarily.

          the mother-in-law needs to be kept at the optimum distance - 3 hours wink
        2. Krasmash
          Krasmash 29 September 2015 14: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: siber
          Quote: atalef
          I send 300 to 500 bucks every month.
          But how else, gasoline - a dollar liter, mother-in-law's pension - 120 bucks and father-in-law - 170.

          With such a price tag, it’s cheaper to take relatives to yourself, at least temporarily.

          From this, yes. Hebrew is bred into grandmothers, like a sucker of the latter. Well, the Slavs give the yayuyuyuyuyuyu. laughing laughing laughing
          1. andj61
            andj61 29 September 2015 16: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasmash
            From this, yes. Hebrew is bred into grandmothers, like a sucker of the latter. Well, the Slavs give the yayuyuyuyuyuyu.

            So they are Ukrainians - so everything is fine! good tongue
            1. Krasmash
              Krasmash 29 September 2015 16: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: andj61
              So they are Ukrainians

              The father-in-law, and the mother-in-law is Russian, although she must have been Ukrainianized. So, everything fell into place. drinks
  24. IS-80
    IS-80 29 September 2015 11: 40 New
    +2
    By the way, unlike last year, for a week in Kiev I did not see a single legal guard. All these black and red in the balaclava seemed to evaporate.

    Well, so they are very busy. Either they are trying to smuggle smuggling on the western borders, or to impose goods in the Crimea on the south as a tribute under the guise of a “blockade”. laughing
  25. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 29 September 2015 12: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: radogos
    WE NEED HELP FOR THEM, NOT HATE!

    Let Lyashko help them with universal anal Europeanization
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 September 2015 12: 49 New
      +3
      Apparently, atalef describes everything from a purely Jewish point of view whitewashing the fascists and bandits, because they are also led by a Jew Poroshenko (Valtsman) as they say "he washes his hand" lol
      By the way, since the Jewish Jews started talking about products (fat), the eggs were completely ill and now they are importing them from Ukraine, apparently because of the huge number of gays and other gay people of whom Israel is famous for and of course the result of some "unsuccessful operations" laughing
      Ukraine will start exporting eggs to Israel
      Two Ukrainian enterprises received permission to export chicken eggs to Israel. This was announced on August 20 by the Minister of Agrarian Policy and Food of Ukraine Oleksiy Pavlenko
      http://hyser.com.ua/economics/ukraina-nachnyot-eksport-kurinyx-yaic-v-izrail-146
      99
  26. Rigla
    Rigla 29 September 2015 12: 41 New
    0
    Even if we assume that 404 will enter the Russian Federation, then I’m sure that after 20-50-100 years they will surely scream again that the Russians did not let them go to the west and that’s why autonomy and lack of respect are necessary. In general, rotten are all these hopes that they are our brothers. They are not brothers to us.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 September 2015 13: 04 New
      +1
      Yes, all of Ukraine is unnecessary for us; we will have enough territory of Novorossia, and let the rest of the Nazi minions remain under the leadership of Poroshenko (Valtsman) in the remaining territory, by the way, and the debts they will give to the various IMF that they collected laughing
      So by the way, and you atalef Are not you afraid that your benefactors will be deprived of benefits by your benefactors for eating fat? Than then you will feed your family, because you do not know how to do anything with your own hands.
      And although you know how to apologize - to give her for alms lol
      1. Krasmash
        Krasmash 29 September 2015 14: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Than then you will feed your family, because you do not know how to do anything with your own hands.

        A friend from an Azerbaijani will buy the fruit and inhale the Haifans as an elite product. yes
    2. ty60
      ty60 30 September 2015 19: 41 New
      0
      They are sisters perhaps
  27. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 29 September 2015 13: 02 New
    0
    To exaggerate the economic situation on the outskirts is a thankless task. They will deal with their idol-niger and the Jewish junta.
    I am more concerned about the fact that the same can be said about Russia - "... And they will live. The whole question is how. In general, it is difficult to come out, both in terms of earnings and in terms of prices. And they put pressure on the brains. But they live."
    Isn't that so ?!

    So I want to shoot Ulyukaev, Siluanov or Gref in the eye, already reduces the jaw ...
  28. ARES623
    ARES623 29 September 2015 13: 28 New
    +5
    A heretic is said to be worse than an infidel. Here is the same story. Maybe they are brothers and us (by blood), but they are somewhat stubborn. Born with a birth injury to the head. Cain and Abel were also brothers. So the topic of relatives is enough to procrastinate, so it’s clear that with the Franks and Germans we’ll soon come to understand each other. And these ... they will survive - well, they will not survive - well, and x --- n with them, the loss is not great. In any case, it is necessary to clean the territory from outright enemies, because this is our foreground, t.s. safety zone. No sentiment.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 29 September 2015 13: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: ARES623
      Maybe they are brothers and us (by blood), but they are somewhat stubborn.

      Yes, normal and adequate people are Ukrainians, I have come across them here more than once and I can’t say anything bad about them.
      But the Nazis, nationalists and other "evil spirits" which the USA and the Israeli regime in Ukraine raised and raised in Ukraine, these are the real enemies. We see the same thing now in Syria and around the world - the USA and Israel everywhere raise and educate terrorists and fascists in order to create chaos in the world and ultimately set them against Russia.
  29. Krasmash
    Krasmash 29 September 2015 14: 22 New
    +3

    In general, I fly to Kiev once a year. To relatives. Father-in-law and mother-in-law in Kiev oblige me, especially since I have such a relationship with them that it’s even nice. That flew the family and this year

    Atalef, you say it is. I went to my agent, and the family is a cover. It’s as if we don’t know that you are a spy. By the way, the Israeli special services feel very comfortable at the unfortunate ruin, they even allow their kosher employees to harass. repeat
  30. Olezhek
    Olezhek 29 September 2015 14: 30 New
    +2
    Then he commented on an article about the Kurils and understood that, oddly enough, Ukraine is something like:
    only if the Kuriles do not give to be friends with Japan, then to break up in Ukraine - with Germany:

    By the way, just the same “Kuril ridge” was erected between Germany and Russia before our eyes.
    1 Promoting Tortilla Tortilla in Germany's Chancellors (near East German Komsomol)
    2 Throwing her bait in the form of Ukraine (neither Hitler nor William II could, but you Toritlochka can !!) love
    3 Tortilla stupidly swallows the bait .. lol
    4 PROFIT !!!

    Germany-Russia relations before almost cloudless (there are no questions left on WWII)
    spoil for a long time. (Germany will not let out the bait from his mouth, even spitting blood)

    Do not underestimate our American partners - they are also the masters of "multi-paths".

    If someone does not understand the way out for Russia from the Ukrainian trap either.
    (full exit)
    Yes, the Black Sea Fleet is now safe. Yes, the pipe is almost not relevant.
    Yes, Russia no longer needs to subsidize Ukraine - these are the problems of Germany ...
    But as we all understand - the complete elimination of Russia from the Ukrainian affairs can not be physically.
    at about the sunset of socialism, the GDR received a sudden loan from BAVARIA!
    and here and there-the Germans .. albeit on a different side of the iron curtain ..

    Anyone who understands politics a little will understand that this is completely absurd and impossible
    for Russia, completely cut itself off from Ukrainian affairs.

    But this is what will fuel the ongoing conflict with Germany ...
    Which SUDDENLY already considers Ukraine to be a zone of its interests.

    So it will be an unhealed abscess ...
    And out of the blue - what to say - the work of the master ...

    The main task of the Yankees was to tighten the Germans in the Zapadensk swamp - which they did ..
    Now, with ANY layout of cards - Russia is a deadly enemy for freshly baked
    owner of the "country of Ukraine".

    Just like in the Far East - a compromise is impossible in principle.

    Of course, you can ask: And how can Russia influence the fully Russophobic state, which even cancels flights with Moscow ???
    The trouble of Ukraine is that it is not the Kuriles - there are many people
    and not South Korea - there will definitely not be a technological miracle.
    None of the Ukrainians subscribed to live in Africa - and the new Vlad clearly promised
    European standards for quality of life.

    So the problem is that too many there are Russian-speaking ..
    Those. There is still a problem in West Germany multiplied by 10
    Monolingual country with a much higher standard of living ..
    North Korea South Korea ..

    And no one can forbid in the Russian-speaking Internet and TV space to discuss the problems of Ukraine.
    But the German news agencies and bloggers have nothing to say,
    in any case, it is convincing to prove to a Kiev resident why he should live on 200 dollars a month they cannot.
    Those. we have a classic ideological diversion
    (Eastern voices tell how the Germans rob Ukraine)

    For Berlin - it's tryndets.
    But it’s absolutely impossible to provide a standard of living in Ukraine even in Latvia - from an economic point of view ...

    So most likely Ukraine - North Korea No. 2 - will cut off the Internet and collect plates from the roofs.
    Or stupid will be planted for visiting Russian sites .. (scary, yes ??) belay
  31. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 29 September 2015 14: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Midshipman
    There is still a third option - to tidy up the whole of Ukraine (preferably without blood), and immediately release it. But on a short leash. Well, the correct textbooks to write.

    And who will pay for this festival?! Russia?! Do you propose to realize the Amer’s scenario?! Or we don’t have any problems?! <Iframe src = 'http: //videoapi.my.mail.ru/videos/embed/ mail / tatyana_petropavl / _myvide
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    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 29 September 2015 14: 52 New
      +1
      This is what they wanted from us:
      1 After that, the Russian aggressor.
      2 Valorous Dill TIGHTLY sit on our necks while cursing Russia in every possible way.
      What for us such decomposed ... belay
  32. Baloo
    Baloo 29 September 2015 19: 50 New
    +4
    In Ukraine, there is a war of a gang of pigs with their own people.
    To be slaves, formerly Austrian, then Polish, now American, is apparently in the blood. Cowards ... How many more Ukrainians must die so that the rest understand that the Americans are leading them to slaughter, Ukrainians are consumables.
    The Russians are not Ukrainians, they dealt with Hitler, they dealt with all sorts of Basaev-Dudaevs, we will survive this too.
    After yesterday’s speech, Porosenko at the UN began to notice that Ukraine had ceased to arouse my sympathy.
    Each nation is worthy of those rulers that they have.
  33. Leeder
    Leeder 29 September 2015 20: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: shasherin.pavel
    But the wife herself from Chernigov stopped communicating with her mother.

    That's for this, the last desire to respect the "liver water guides" will disappear! America has given a lot to humanity, but for this, it can only be hated!
  34. serverny
    serverny 30 September 2015 00: 11 New
    +2
    It looks somehow groomed. It can be seen that they are trying to maintain order, but either there is no money for it, or desire.

    Hmm, in comparison with Minsk four years ago, Kiev seemed to me a very shabby city. And not the main streets in general caused sadness.
    What is going on there now. Going for a look is good, but the Ukrainians have fallen in price / matched those who have a little hard currency in their pockets ...
  35. Wolka
    Wolka 30 September 2015 05: 36 New
    +1
    and no one pulled dill into the “bright European future”, therefore you shouldn’t put pressure on pity, in general pity gives rise to dullness and laziness, if you fall, be sure to get up yourself, and don’t lie and don’t think that someone is to blame, especially since someone will come up and give you a hand to rise ...
  36. yegor_k
    yegor_k 30 September 2015 12: 53 New
    0
    Quote: andj61
    Also say that you can embroider a cross! feel

    Damn, a Jew, embroidering a cross .... some kind of :)))
  37. Zverboy
    Zverboy 1 October 2015 01: 20 New
    +2
    Now in Kiev is full of all the scum that mows under the patriots, so no one wants to mess with her. They dispersed the police, returned almost the 90s. Klitschko sends a team with aunts at night to dismantle the kiosks and it does not matter if there are documents or not, if the person has not had time to collect 20 at least the kiosk is dismantled directly with the goods. The cops do not intervene, the patrol with an average age of 24 years is stingy. Everyone who comes to Kiev feels like kings here, the prices are ridiculous for food and travel.
  38. nezabor
    nezabor 1 October 2015 03: 11 New
    0
    160 hryvnias per kilo?

    but it seems a little expensive to me
  39. 717
    717 1 October 2015 06: 08 New
    +1
    in Russia, the police also have such a uniform)) and a baseball cap. so we have the same thing in this matter.
  40. prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 17 October 2015 14: 12 New
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    In the early eighties, in a smoking-room, some soldiers called up from Ukraine reasoned that they (Ukraine) were feeding Russia. how they will feed themselves now.