Will the report of Glazyev change the history of Russia?

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Pyotr Nikolaevich Durnovo in February 1914 of the year gave Tsar Nicholas II an analytical note in which he very accurately predicted the development of the events of the First World War ...

Will the report of Glazyev change the history of Russia?В stories There is a certain number of documents, the appearance of which in itself can be called a historical event.

We will not touch upon world history now, describing all sorts of “US Declaration of Independence” or “Billy on Rights” (including because there documents are only part of and the result of events, not being events in themselves).

And there are documents that themselves have changed (or could have changed) the story.

For example, the so-called "Note Durnovo". Former Minister of the Interior of the Russian Empire, Peter Nikolaevich Durnovo, in February 1914, gave Tsar Nicholas II an analytical note in which he very accurately predicted the development of the events of the First World War and in every way warned the Tsar against entering the war, especially on the side of the Entente. Among the consequences of joining the war, Durnovo called "shell hunger", the blockade of ports, heavy losses and the almost inevitable social revolution.

If the king listened to his former minister, he could have avoided several million Russians killed and, quite possibly, would have remained in power. But Nicholas II was more interested in hunting for ravens and cats than foreign policy and government.

Another document of similar historical significance is the report of the Vernadsky Commission, published in 1915 year, which noted the absence in the economy of the Russian Empire half of the chemical elements necessary for the development and stated that without accelerated modernization development, Russia will inevitably continue to lag behind in the technological and industrial development from the Western countries, and in a couple of decades will be destroyed.

The report of the Vernadsky commission has the exact opposite fate. They listened to him and took into account. As a result, in the first place, according to Boris Kagarlitsky, this is why the General Headquarters of the Russian army supported the Bolsheviks as the only foreseeable force capable of carrying out the modernization spurt described in the report.

And, secondly, Stalin, relying in many respects on the calculations of this particular report, and carried out industrialization, which in the forties allowed successfully, though with great efforts, to repel the Nazi invasion.

Moreover, the report was not only taken into consideration, but also on the basis of the Vernadsky commission by the Bolsheviks, as soon as possible, five research institutes were created, the developments of which were immediately put into practice.

This month an event took place that can be safely related to the listed documents - the fundamental report of Glazyev was released.

Today the situation in many ways resembles the beginning of the twentieth century: the planet is on the verge of a world war, and Russia again needs a modernization leap. And depending on whether the Russian government’s response to the report of Academician Glazyev is adequate depends on which path the story takes.

Will the modernization begun with the army continue in other sectors, will it choose the right side and strategy of actions in the unfolding global confrontation, will it abandon idle liberal dogmas in favor of more rational development recipes? Soon we will see ...
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  1. +14
    29 September 2015 05: 00
    Pyotr Nikolaevich Durnovo in February 1914 of the year gave Tsar Nicholas II an analytical note in which he very accurately predicted the development of the events of the First World War ...

    History repeats itself. Are we again going to infinity step on the same old rusty rake. It's a shame.
    1. -14
      29 September 2015 09: 43
      Quote: venaya
      History repeats itself.

      You can say so. Russia is the current grotesque image of the Russian Empire of the Romanovs in a time frame compressed to the limit. Glazyev in the role of Durnovo. Original. But the article minus. One phrase of all and the whole essence of the mental abilities of a patient named Rogers is clear. "Stalin relying on the calculations of the report Durnovo carried out industrialization. "
      1. +6
        29 September 2015 11: 03
        Vernadsky, not Durnovo. So in the article. I don’t know. What is immediately minus.
      2. -1
        29 September 2015 21: 36
        That is exactly what happened. And rightly they put the cons.
    2. +4
      29 September 2015 09: 50
      It just seems to those who decide that the rake is new ...
      1. +3
        29 September 2015 20: 54
        This is you right ... Even Catherine II told Potemkin: - fight again, but we are not ready again !!! Who will say when Russia was ready for war? It’s impossible to prepare for the war at all, and if you are prepared, then you are prepared for the last war ... It’s not possible !!!
    3. +1
      29 September 2015 12: 09
      Quote: venaya
      Will we again infinitely step on the same old rusty rake

      Not. Buy new ones. American
    4. +7
      29 September 2015 12: 35
      Of course we will, look what laws are being adopted. We will soon be deprived of free secondary and primary education, already deprived legally of free treatment, and the retirement age, no matter what, will increase. Our government is essentially anti-people, and this cannot last forever.
  2. Riv
    -33
    29 September 2015 05: 19
    Here's what pins me: who is Durnovo? Russian fleet officer, hereditary nobleman, Minister of the Interior of the Russian Empire. He had a death sentence from the Social Revolutionaries, who hunted him until 1915. They didn’t catch it.

    And who is Glazyev? .. Comrades, on a vapid without Google someone will say what this person is doing? At least his first name will be called? I'll help you. This is a former Minister, a former deputy, a former presidential candidate, and even a member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, he is also a former. Yes ... Drove a man like a famous thing in an ice hole. He was promoted to adviser to the president on Eurasian integration. In his years, whether with his nerves pamper programs? In the evening, klystir, in the morning kefir - what else is needed to meet old age? No, he got into the habit of writing. Yavlinsky also wrote at one time.

    And now tell Sergey Yuryevich: "Oh, you goy, you are a good fellow! What do you need for you to fulfill your program?" - and he will answer: "Give me some more money, but put me in charge of the State Bank - then I will turn around not like a child!" Here are just to hell with him who will allow to steer, the former is.
    1. +21
      29 September 2015 05: 41
      That's just hell who will allow him to steer, the former then.
      While he is a current academician, he is also an official adviser to the current president.
      1. Riv
        -17
        29 September 2015 05: 58
        And you, comrade, googled, on what issues he is an adviser. I insistently advise.
    2. +11
      29 September 2015 05: 43
      Quote: Riv
      FORMER

      And who is not the former? Even if he sits in the Duma, he steers in the government. They are all already the formeralthough so far in plain sight. We must look: Glazyev puts forward sensible proposals or not?
      1. Riv
        -15
        29 September 2015 05: 56
        It's such a thing ... It's not difficult to scold the government. Shout: "I can do better!" - also nothing difficult. But there is a caveat: Glazyev at one time could do a lot. And he did a little less than nichrome. So what difference does it make what he puts forward there? All the same, he will not be responsible for his affairs / idleness.
        1. +30
          29 September 2015 06: 35
          Quote: Riv
          It's such a thing ... It's not difficult to scold the government. Shout: "I can do better!" - also nothing difficult. But there is a caveat: Glazyev at one time could do a lot. And he did a little less than nichrome. So what difference does it make what he puts forward there? All the same, he will not be responsible for his affairs / idleness.

          Damn, how smart everyone is early in the morning. You need to analyze the program first, and then the author. On the contrary, you have a lot of words about the author and nothing specific about the program. If you do not like the program, put forward your own or continue to engage in "import substitution" of the "best in the world head of the Central Bank" and the happy owner of an iPhone, which has led to the collapse of the industry.
          In this case, it makes no sense to go personal, everyone close to the authorities has enough "skeletons" in their closet. In this case, a specific program for supporting industry is proposed, the government proposes a program for supporting banks.
          1. Riv
            -14
            29 September 2015 07: 33
            No, comrade. First we’ll see what kind of person there is, and then we’ll listen. And then tomorrow Chubais will say something clever to us - so that he cannot be kicked
            1. +17
              29 September 2015 07: 43
              Quote: Riv
              No, comrade. First we’ll see what kind of person there is, and then we’ll listen. And then tomorrow Chubais will say something clever to us - so that he cannot be kicked

              Well, Chubais is a far from stupid person (if he were stupid - he would have been kicked off already), it is quite possible that he will still do something useful (as an option, he will issue a confession).
              1. Riv
                -1
                29 September 2015 08: 20
                Maybe you shouldn’t give him a chance to do something else? Halt immediately and live in peace.
                Maybe this should be done with every "former"? Make them finally answer for what they did when they "were".
              2. Riv
                -4
                29 September 2015 08: 20
                Maybe you shouldn’t give him a chance to do something else? Halt immediately and live in peace.
                Maybe this should be done with every "former"? Make them finally answer for what they did when they "were".
                1. +15
                  29 September 2015 08: 57
                  Quote: Riv
                  Maybe you shouldn’t give him a chance to do something else? Halt immediately and live in peace.

                  At one time, Andrei Nikolaevich Tupolev committed a not entirely plausible act in the United States, associated with the misuse of funds (now the truth is shouting about Stalin's repressions). He, too, could be stumbled right away and live in peace, instead he was given to the harsh "Beria executioners", where he was taught to love his homeland. As a result, we got a wonderful aircraft designer.
                  True, one cannot expect detailed information from Anatoly Borisovich. Although, if you give it to the harsh "Beria executioners" ...
                  1. Riv
                    0
                    29 September 2015 09: 02
                    ABOUT! It cannot be denied that in those days they knew a lot about p ... ly and knew how to prescribe them as a medicine. But there is a problem: the "former" for this medicine were out of turn.
                    1. +16
                      29 September 2015 09: 27
                      Quote: Riv
                      ABOUT! It cannot be denied that in those days they knew a lot about p ... ly and knew how to prescribe them as a medicine. But there is a problem: the "former" for this medicine were out of turn.

                      My great-grandfather is a former nobleman, a former officer of the tsarist army ...
                      He missed his turn for p ... lami. Probably at that time he was driving the main character of the film "Admiral", or he was establishing Soviet power in Siberia. It was not up to standing in line for p ... lami.
                  2. +3
                    29 September 2015 11: 32
                    Key words "bloody Beria executioners". But where can one get them, and after all, they were real experts in human souls ...
                  3. +3
                    29 September 2015 12: 28
                    And where are they "Beria's executioners"? in the special services at the top there are only managers who are zadornovu-koekaki
        2. +15
          29 September 2015 06: 54
          "Glazyev's report was prepared by 15 people from the Academy of Sciences of Russia. So put your nonsense where you need it.
          1. Riv
            -23
            29 September 2015 07: 35
            We all know what we have with academic science. Everything is bad there.

            Although stop! .. Dude, nobody pulled your tongue. You yourself have just admitted to the whole world that Glazyev has something to do with the report RELATIONSHIPS WOULD NOT HAVE. Is there 15 people fit in? He is sixteenth. And it could be 100500 meters.
            1. -8
              29 September 2015 08: 58
              Once upon a time, Zhirinovsky participated in the election of the governor of the Belgorod region. What programs we didn’t see (we won’t count books) and didn’t hear: he’ll raise salaries, and provide housing, and he will break all enemies, and then he will fix it, and then he will do it ... And also there were conversations, look what a fellow. But don’t toss bags.
              And Glazyev: it seems to me that a Cossack has been mishandled. Too everything on time, too much PR.
        3. 0
          29 September 2015 11: 28
          Well yes, whistle on. And who allowed him to climb with his own constructive in the context of the mass looting of the country? Stupidly would have killed so as not to interfere.
          This is, if briefly.
          1. -3
            29 September 2015 14: 02
            Where he used to be with his construct. For 25 years I didn’t know what to do (or didn’t want to, or it was all the same), but now I’ve drawn, the Messiah - I will save the Russian economy. Kudrin, Navalny, Khodorkovsky also "know everything," but this does not mean that they can be trusted.
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    3. +5
      29 September 2015 06: 04
      He described a good career, the Kremlin troll means Glazyev’s great experience ..
      on one thing, not who will not let you "steer" agree with you, otherwise you will have to admit the erroneous course since 1991, of which 15 years with GDP
      Quote: Riv
      Here's what pins me: who is Durnovo? Russian fleet officer, hereditary nobleman, Minister of the Interior of the Russian Empire. He had a death sentence from the Social Revolutionaries, who hunted him until 1915. They didn’t catch it.

      And who is Glazyev? .. Comrades, on a vapid without Google someone will say what this person is doing? At least his first name will be called? I'll help you. This is a former Minister, a former deputy, a former presidential candidate, and even a member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, he is also a former. Yes ... Drove a man like a famous thing in an ice hole. He was promoted to adviser to the president on Eurasian integration. In his years, whether with his nerves pamper programs? In the evening, klystir, in the morning kefir - what else is needed to meet old age? No, he got into the habit of writing. Yavlinsky also wrote at one time.

      And now tell Sergey Yuryevich: "Oh, you goy, you are a good fellow! What do you need for you to fulfill your program?" - and he will answer: "Give me some more money, but put me in charge of the State Bank - then I will turn around not like a child!" Here are just to hell with him who will allow to steer, the former is.
    4. +12
      29 September 2015 06: 52
      Quote: Riv
      This is a former Minister, a former deputy, a former presidential candidate, and even a member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, he is also a former.

      This is just a smart person.
      1. Riv
        -20
        29 September 2015 07: 37
        We read above about sixteen womniks. :)))
        There are many academicians, but the project turns out to be GLAZYEV.
        Spit urgently!
        1. +11
          29 September 2015 08: 20
          There are many academicians, but the project turns out to be GLAZYEV.
          Spit urgently!
          -
          Glazyev himself can really act as a "flag"; he himself simply personifies a certain concept. This does not mean that it is possible to implement all these proposals, it is only about listening, drawing conclusions and naturally taking into account the most feasible moments. They do not hope for the complete implementation of the project, but this cannot be suppressed without attention at all. After all, the power of the people has been declared. It is good to answer, in this case, to the people.
          1. Riv
            -15
            29 September 2015 09: 00
            Or is the letter "G" the first in the list of authors? All the same, somehow it turns out badly. The government is scolding sixteen people, but only one was made the flag. I have bad associations about the British flag, but oh well ...
            However, there is a problem: Mr. Glazyev is absolutely unsuitable to "answer to the people".

            Kamrad, face it. There is a public relations project. A person with a surname and position was taken, someone else's clever thoughts were attributed to him and they began to push through like a bar of soap in the ass. Do you like it? Sorry. ;)
            1. +5
              29 September 2015 09: 13
              Quote: Riv
              ... "to answer to the people" Mr. Glazyev is decidedly unsuitable.

              Kamrad, face it. There is a PR project ... he was credited with other people's clever thoughts and began to push through like a bar of soap in the ass. Do you like it? Sorry. ;)

              It is strange why Mr. Glazyev is absolutely unsuitable to "answer to the people", I did not notice this at all. He willingly answered all questions, in my presence. Maybe you have a different practice, maybe not lucky?
              1. Riv
                -10
                29 September 2015 09: 29
                Because "answering questions" is not at all the same as "being responsible for your own affairs." You googled his life path. Just google it. When and for what was he responsible? Wherever he worked, there was a complete ass everywhere. He only knows how to grind with his tongue. Do you know what his diploma specialty is? Cybernetic economist. Soviet economist, aha!

                Such as he launched an alliance with a hammer. Too bad this item is still floating. Nothing ... God willing - the water in the toilet will merge.
                1. +7
                  29 September 2015 09: 46
                  Quote: Riv
                  ... Wherever he worked - everywhere was a complete ass. He only knows how to grind with his tongue. Do you know what his diploma major is? Cybernetics economist. Soviet economist, yeah!

                  Such as he launched an alliance with a hammer. ...

                  On March 17, 1991, the people voted to preserve the Union (Over - 93%) Is there infa that Glazyev was somehow involved in the collapse? If there is, then the attitude towards him may change. And so, in the collapse, it seems we are all involved. Allocate Glazyev as an activist of this crime, while I have no reason.
                2. -11
                  29 September 2015 10: 01
                  I will add this question (not to you, to the minus): "Do you agree that Russia in the summer of 2014 should have bombed the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to smithereens?" And this is the position of Glazyev. I will note - the adviser to the President. Do you think such a person has everything at home? Do you really want to entrust him with the state in which you live?
                  1. +2
                    29 September 2015 10: 14
                    Do you really want to entrust him with the state in which you live?
                    -
                    Entrust the state? As someone. The president? Specify a question.
                  2. +7
                    29 September 2015 10: 33
                    Quote: anderles66
                    And this is Glazyev’s position. Note - Advisor to the President. Do you think such a person has everything at home?

                    Since he’s an adviser to the president, everyone is at home
                  3. +8
                    29 September 2015 11: 58
                    "Do you agree that Russia in the summer of 2014 was supposed to bomb the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to smithereens?"

                    Yes, I absolutely agree. What is wrong with destroying the combat-ready group of the army of an enemy state, which is going to kill people (as well as our citizens in the Rostov region!)? Time flies, I observe and analyze events in the Donbass, and more and more I am convinced of my rightness.

                    Only this should have been done not in the summer, but in the spring, when there was an appeal by the "legitimate" and the new president was absent from Kiev.
                    1. Riv
                      -8
                      29 September 2015 14: 12
                      It is touching. Glazyev, by the way, is from Zaporozhye himself. As if the Ukrainian calls to bomb the APU. I don’t know ... Even if he is a patriot of Russia at least three times, but this patriotism smacks of little shit.
                      1. +2
                        29 September 2015 14: 50
                        If he was born on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR, this does not mean that he is Ukrainian. "Ukrainians" of Donetsk and Lugansk also asked to bomb the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so what?
                      2. Riv
                        -3
                        29 September 2015 15: 59
                        And if a Russian was born in the United States, then for him, in the order of things, offer to bomb Russia? I understood your logic.
                      3. Riv
                        -1
                        29 September 2015 15: 59
                        And if a Russian was born in the United States, then for him, in the order of things, offer to bomb Russia? I understood your logic.
                      4. +1
                        29 September 2015 16: 24
                        What is the logic? To begin with, he was born in the USSR, and this is his birthplace. And not the under-Ukraine and not ErEf modern.
                      5. Riv
                        -1
                        30 September 2015 05: 24
                        Really: what other logic? After all, a person born in the USSR has the right to bomb anyone.
                      6. +1
                        29 September 2015 21: 44
                        My friend, something you got excited in your accusatory matches.
                  4. 0
                    29 September 2015 21: 43
                    I agree with Glazyev and in his opinion on the outskirts. Not to mention the economy and the country's path.
            2. +3
              29 September 2015 09: 58
              other people's smart thoughts
              Maybe this is the most important thing? And who the flag is there, and who the flagpole is - it does not matter. The main thing is that clever thoughts translate into clever deeds. True, this also requires smart performers ... Well, or at least smart organizers who could explain to the performers how to bring smart thoughts to life.
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    5. -7
      29 September 2015 09: 27
      I completely agree with you! Not an economist and I can listen to Glazyev. It can be curious. But nothing more. I would like to understand what achievements a person has? Well, except for the title of academician and the position (?) Of an adviser. In my experience, if a person is removed from office and appointed as an advisor, then he is, as it were, "his", but a little stupid. I remember the "500 days program". I think that if it were implemented (tried), then, perhaps, our state would no longer exist. The PR was also endless. Here are all his former positions - WHAT did the person do good (breakthrough, development, implementation)? What can miners tell about it?
      1. +1
        29 September 2015 10: 00
        Economics is not technology; it is more difficult to see achievements here. There - it turns, rides at the declared speed, etc. - well done. And here? Maybe give him an enterprise, let him bring it to mind? Or industry. Or then an industry. And then, then ...
      2. +6
        29 September 2015 12: 12
        At one time, Wasserman was an active liberal. And promoted these ideas. Now he regrets it in every way.
        To do something, you must first draw up an action plan. Business model for the current. Then implement. In order to implement, you need to get permission from those who are already in this business (I hope in tales about people who have achieved everything themselves do not need to chew?).

        So in short:

        1. It is human nature to change attitudes, especially when he sees what his ideas lead to.
        2. For the results to be achieved, a lot of work is needed, and above all, a development plan is needed. It was he who was submitted for consideration.
        3. To make breakthroughs in state-building, not only the will of the individual is necessary, but also the support of that same individual at all levels of the state. But this is not unfortunately.


        PS in the upper echelons have already shuffled a bunch of people on the seats, one deck, no new people, progress with a minus sign. In fact, they are all former.

        I think it is not necessary to describe the logic of the further course of action?
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      4. +1
        29 September 2015 13: 00
        Do you think that the zablag that drove the economy in the 90s and passed down by inheritance to mediocre lawyers are better versed in the economy?
        bring your troll arguments on the echo .. there a ride .. wassat
      5. -1
        29 September 2015 21: 01
        Well, there they implemented a lot of the program. Still disentangling ...
        And so, according to Glazyev, I think that his program is empty boltology. Some of the points are not feasible at all, some are populist. The main backbone of the program is objective reality, which a malomalsky educated student understands for the third year.
        If you think about it, I would also be able to write a similar program, and maybe even better. But in modern reality it is either impossible to realize or it is necessary to change very, very much, and even more finance. Although I repeat that at least a third of the points are not possible at all, and the rest also needs to be adjusted based on the situation. Although some points are interesting, I will not argue. For me, we need a smooth and phased structural reform of everything. Everything needs to be done gradually and constantly adjusting it based on changing factors, not forgetting about the main goal.
        He has the most important and weak point (as it seems to me) is the absence of any stimulating processes in the program. He has everywhere: to take, take away, persuade ... It is possible to limit something, but it is very difficult to forbid someone to do what is beneficial.
    6. 0
      29 September 2015 09: 35
      A great example of using the first Despicere technique described in the Twelve Techniques of Poem Polemics or Handbook on Newspaper Discussions by Karel Čapek:
      http://topwar.ru/30461-dvenadcat-priemov-literaturnoy-polemiki-ili-posobie-po-ga
      zetnym-diskussiyam.html
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 10: 52
        Yes, a great example of how to prepare a process, you can kill anything. For anything you can bring a scientific (or, more often - pseudo-scientific) base. A striking example is the research of unknown British scientists. It is proved that love at first sight appears within 0.13 seconds. What is this information for you?
    7. +4
      29 September 2015 11: 25
      Or maybe the former, because a normal person with such bastards who overwhelm the organizations you have listed doesn’t sit on one hectare!
      Not everyone has the courage, endurance, patience, etc. every day to communicate with these corrupt vile nits, in fact the scum of society!
    8. +4
      29 September 2015 12: 06
      The report will not and should not have any “turning point”: too many changes of different quality are required. This means that at least there are no trained people. There is not a single "countable" sentence in the entire program; they have not been tested either individually or, even more so, in a complex. Such "breakdowns" inevitably cause recession and disorder, even if they are genius in essence, and we do not know it. And nobody knows. If there is a failure (and this is more than likely), it will be impossible to play back. A responsible politician avoids irreversible actions in every possible way unless absolutely necessary (declaration of war and mobilization if attacked). There are strategies to avoid catastrophic failures: 1) the introduction of new forms of organization in parallel with the existing ones, in some territories, enterprises, divisions and 2) the identification of technologies that are especially significant for the country, but not existing ones, the search and development of them, and then the implementation and financing before acquiring self-sufficiency. And if Glazyev fails? What to take from him then? Skin for a scarecrow? So inhumane, and there will be little joy from his apology.
      1. +2
        29 September 2015 21: 48
        Yes, Glazyev's reforms require too much from "our" government - namely, a change in the social system, nationalization and a planned, now mobilization economy. And this they cannot bear.
    9. 0
      30 September 2015 02: 50
      "... put me in charge of the state bank -" Are you familiar with the legislation of the Russian Federation on banks? This legislation allows the State Bank of the Russian Federation to print as many rubles as the IMF allows. And the IMF is controlled by the Americans. Under Stalin, the Soviet State Bank printed as many rubles as the USSR needed for its own needs. And Glazyev and his associates (including Professor Kasatonov and others) believe that it is necessary to change the banking legislation so that the size of the issue does not depend on the IMF. And you, judging by your remark, want to be dependent? So the oligarchs want to be dependent. Mr. Riv, are you an oligarch?
      1. 0
        30 September 2015 02: 58
        Quote: aleksandr1949
        legislation allows the State Bank of the Russian Federation to print as many rubles as the IMF allows

        - and where is this written in the "legislation"? request
  3. 0
    29 September 2015 06: 55
    And on whether there will be an adequate reaction of the Russian government to the report of Academician Glazyev, it depends on which way history will go.

    The question needs to be clarified; will there be an adequate reaction of the president?
  4. +12
    29 September 2015 06: 56
    Glazyev proposes cardinal things, and since there are two fundamental postulates of modern history, such as “I don’t give up mine” and “the results of privatization will not be revised,” based on this it can be assumed that Glazyev’s report will not be followed also because these are his ideas , but not those in power, in general, yes - history repeats itself ...
  5. +10
    29 September 2015 07: 09
    After reading the above, I recalled an event two weeks ago (a queue of elderly people, before the opening of the Sberbank branch):
    - How to live further - prices have increased again! ..
    - Yes, but the old governor will be in charge of everything again! .. (note: a representative of the "ER")
    “Did you even go to the polls yesterday?”
    - What for? I didn’t go and I won’t go - nothing will change anyway! ..
    “Have you even tried to change anything in your own life ?!”
    - Himself so! ..
    A curtain. Intermission. (???) Buffet-locker room-tram? what
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 07: 23
      Quote: RU-Officer
      - What for? I didn’t go and I won’t go - nothing will change anyway! ..

      Aunt, by the way, is not so far from the truth, because if any other party (except probably the Communist Party) begins to win on a national scale, then the deputies from EP will begin to drift into this new party, and again there will be the same people , because no one will refuse the feeder
      1. BMW
        +5
        29 September 2015 08: 35
        Quote: rosarioagro
        the drift of deputies from EP to this new party will begin


        Yes, how many parties some changed, Yarovaya, for example, two, is itself an empty place, and a very responsible committee in the State Duma is headed. If the majority of deputies are like that, then we don’t need external enemies either, they will destroy this country themselves. Oh, I feel the country is in a 100 year circle, it’s scary for the children.
        1. BMW
          +3
          29 September 2015 12: 44
          PS.
          Today, gasoline has risen in price by 50 cents, now 42,40. And this is after the promise of a new governor to deal with the increase of 1,90 that happened two weeks ago.
          Yesterday there was sugar at a wholesale base of 60 rubles / kg, flour 30 rubles / kg, an increase of 33% in two months, and this is a bag of 30 kg, if the container is smaller, it will cost more. The meat is unchanged so far, but I think it will jump in the coming days.
          1. 0
            29 September 2015 19: 30
            Quote: bmw
            The meat is unchanged so far, but I think it will jump in the coming days.

            no wonder if fuels and lubricants rises in price, then this will drag everything along
    2. +4
      29 September 2015 08: 29
      Quote: RU-Officer
      Did you even go to the polls yesterday?

      The most interesting thing is that during such conversations with people, when you poke them into the phrase: “I voted for Tuleyev, and you, probably, for Yeltsin?”, So the interlocutors and interlocutors begin to deny this sin. When I "fire a test shot", well, I ask the question: "Who then voted for Yeltsin?", The interlocutors / interlocutors fall into a stupor.
  6. +17
    29 September 2015 07: 50
    But Nicholas II was more interested in hunting for ravens and cats than foreign policy and government.

    Want to minus, but I don't understand the universal roar about the "innocent" murdered Nikolai. As a person, it may be a pity, but as the Emperor not a bit. Because as Emperor Nikki was a completely empty space. But if he himself could not, then at least he did not interfere with others. Therefore, he himself is to blame for the death of himself and his family.
    1. +7
      29 September 2015 08: 24
      Why minus? The most reasonable point of view was expressed.
      But the main passion of Nicholas was a personal sketch of ALL the jewelry donated to the family with a detailed description of who, when and for what celebration gave.
      A plus for you.
    2. +2
      29 September 2015 08: 33
      Quote: Dimy4
      but I don’t understand the universal roar over the "innocent" murdered Nikolai.

      And I don’t understand how sideways Nikolai No. 2 fit into Glazyev’s concept? Probably some other article inspired these thoughts about the universal roar?
    3. 0
      29 September 2015 21: 05
      and I’ll add that his wife was even worse ... Okay, one got involved in a war that was not really needed, but when his wife was left on the farm, after Nicolas went to command to the front, this chicken simply completely destroyed the whole system supply front and then for the economy in general took up. HERE just the revolution took place, not allowing it to finish off the remnants .. Although ...
    4. +1
      30 September 2015 01: 44
      So they began to turn him into a saint under ebony and his gang .. the communists needed to be stronger in the village to take them out and the hoopoes got hooked - they made the saint a complete nonentity who consistently ruined the empire and his family
  7. +21
    29 September 2015 08: 18
    Communists every year, for 15 years in the Duma, offer exactly what Glazyev offers in his "report", once they were even admitted to the GDP and they personally handed their proposals into his hands. So what? Never mind. For transformations in the economy, besides desires and money, the following paramount things are needed - PERSONNEL: 1) proxies-professionals, "super-organizers" of unprecedented efficiency such as "Stalinist People's Commissars" who understand the goals and objectives of transformations in their directions and on which the President can fully rely ... Well, where are such people surrounded by the President? Along with Shoigu, well, and the "muddy" Rogozin, there are no other ones, the rest of the fatty "friends" - pikhlebatel like the owner of the "fur store", etc. And in the near and distant future they are not expected.
    2) We need people on the "middle tier" - the same excellent organizers-performers, again with an unprecedented capacity for work, able to stay awake for days and wander back and forth in pursuit of goals and objectives. Well, where are these people now? There are none at all. There are no such people at all! Try to get someone to lift their ass off the chair now, yeah.
    3) a party is needed among the people, united by an idea, not a "money bag", which would explain to the people in simple language the goals and objectives of the transformation and would rally the people to carry out these transformations, showing by their actions an example for this. Well, where is such a party? Apart from the communists, whom the media obseraut everywhere, they present themselves as such a scarecrow-bogey of the GULAG, repression, queues, obligations, distribution, etc., there is NO ONE. And how are you going to "reform" the country according to Glazyev's plan in such a personnel situation and, most importantly, WITH WHOM?
    1. +6
      29 September 2015 09: 42
      It is truth too! Only the head of a certain level will be appointed, so immediately the first thing they start building mansions somewhere, instead of sleeping in the office on the sofa for months working to do the work necessary for the country and people. Everywhere hard workers are needed who are "offended for the state", and not appointed according to the party list and acquaintance. Until this happens, there will be no world power - Russia.
    2. +4
      29 September 2015 14: 22
      For transformations in the economy, besides desires and money, the following archival things-FRAMES are needed:


      Yes, with this we at least flood. Get out into VO and through one at least yesterday to the government or the General Staff. Stalin also did not have crowds of academic economists and industrialists. He did not find Beria, Zhukov, Tupolev and other pillars of his reign at Oxford or at MGIMO. I mean, if you start practicing, you can find frames.
      The problem is different. I have already said that the oligarchs and the GDP need a PROVEN and CONTROLLED staff. If, let's say, tomorrow you put Strelkov over the security forces, then you can't stop him and the 37th year will seem like childish horror stories. And you can't do anything with it. There is no real compromising evidence on him. Therefore, it is not controlled. And if there is also a "dark horse"? Who knows, if not from the State Department stable, or not from the Mi6? So they will arrange a Maidan on Red Square, and the OMON will not give an order, they will burn like a Berkut from Molotov cocktails.
      Therefore, now there will not be and cannot be any gestures regarding the change of team.
      However, we will not sprinkle ash on our heads. Although I didn’t see the Glazyev report in my eyes, judging by his speeches, he promotes the same thing that the Americans did. It is necessary to launch its own printing press, flood the market with liquidity, and limit the outflow of capital abroad. Yes, then credit rain will pour on us again and the economy will begin to grow at an accelerated pace, not only the banking sector, but the real sector as well. But the problem is that these loans will then have to be repaid. What life ends up in debt, we see on the example of the same amers. So Glazyev’s proposals are a palliative that only delays the crisis in the economy. So personally, I would not want his proposals accepted. Here, as they say, the worse the better. More likely to steer onto the real road to rebuilding the country.
      1. +3
        29 September 2015 14: 51
        Excuse me, how old are you? The question is for you to name the sample of Russia that you would like (God forbid, of course) to "restore"? Sample 1913? Sample 1928? 1937? 1941? 1953? 1970? ! 983?
        1991? You can emphasize what you need, you can substitute your own meaning. Never before have we lived painfully well, we never had a special order, and when we achieved it, then in such ways that we wanted chaos. Awesome slogan: "Let's revive Russia!" not that monstrously stupid and irrational, but generally imaginary. It is tantamount to a call to return to the womb, and is not very harmless, because it makes you look for patterns in the past and for past, no longer existing conditions. Let's create a Russia to be proud of and exciting to live in.
        1. 0
          30 September 2015 03: 30
          Excuse me, how old are you?


          Well, 37. And what does it matter? If there is anything specifically to criticize, so criticize.

          The question is for you to name the sample of Russia that you would like (God forbid, of course) to "restore"?


          Sample 1937-1952

          We had never lived painfully well before, we never had a special order, and when we achieved it, in such ways that we wanted chaos.


          Well, with the prayers of our western partners. Let's see if there was such a time when they did not intervene in our lives, creating problems by military means or the Cold War, or by eliminating objectionable leaders (Pavel I, possibly the IVS).
          And as for the order, there is already a question for you, how old are YOU if you can prefer chaos to order?

          It is tantamount to a call to return to the womb, and is not very harmless, because it makes you look for patterns in the past and for past, no longer existing conditions.


          False logic. The country did not die and was born, just at a certain stage it developed or degraded according to different principles and laws. So, the "Revival of Russia" is precisely the need to find those laws and principles, thanks to which we can in the future "create a Russia that can be proud of and in which it is exciting to live."
    3. +4
      29 September 2015 15: 24
      The only sensible comment. The rest is a children’s sandbox (diagnosis - internet degradation)
      And in PEOPLE -Russia is rich. Zakhar Prilepin came from somewhere. And there is a Party, there is such a party - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but only discord in the left movement, but it would be necessary to unite. How many there are: "Patriots of Russia", "Motherland", "Other Russia", "Communists of Russia", "KPSS", "Essence of Time" and so on ...
      And by the way, the fundamental ideas and proposals of the Report have long been reflected and formulated in the Communist Party Program and in the latest documents and proposals of the Communists to get out of the Crisis:
      - practical "nationalization" of raw materials,
      - deoffshorization, restriction on the removal of capital
      - industrialization, revival of mechanical engineering, machine tool industry as the foundation for New Technologies
      - Submission of the financial system to the needs of Extended Production and NOT vice versa ...
      Well, I'm not talking about the priorities of Science, Education and Social Affairs.
      Glazyev’s suggestion not to be afraid to turn on the Printing Press and specifically for the needs of Production and the Real Economy may seem new.
  8. 0
    29 September 2015 08: 19
    It is always interesting to see what will be ahead, whether it is the fate of an individual or humanity as a whole.
    And before, people thought about this.

    For example, Orthodox elders gave out a lot of prophecies ABOUT THE DESTINIES OF RUSSIA AND THE WORLD, and the magi at Pushkin directly saw the fate of Prophetic Oleg
    The coming years lurk in the gloom;
    But I see your lot on the bright forehead


    Science fiction writers also contributed to the description of human progress that is accessible to the masses and did not fail with airplanes, telephones, televisions, etc.

    If you take the gypsies at the train stations, they also have everything in order to guess how the heart will calm down.
    And politicians have so far succeeded in writing visions of the future that they have no equal in the sale of future dairy rivers and jelly banks to the gullible electorate, if only they are allowed to take the helm.

    Finally, the concept of "black swans" will take its toll, introducing inconceivable perturbations into the dynamics of the formation of this future.

    Assuming that predictions are a useful thing, you need to take care of those who must answer them, react, reflect, and warn of possible consequences.

    But there is one problem. If we take up the anticipation of future consequences, then the immediately predicted future will suffer changes and the picture of the future will be deformed.

    It seems that horse, from which Prophetic Oleg, according to the Magi, must accept his death.
    Already there was no horse, but the bones remained and, in the form of aftereffect, provided with the help of the grave snake the realization of the prophecy about the death of the prince ...

    Our prince has not yet decided whether he will be on horseback after 2018. Then, closer to the date, it will be clear whether the Russian people will be lucky with the Leader for another 6 years, until 2024.

    What if he gets tired, he’ll get tired of everything, God forbid he gets sick, he’ll ask for a pension, or in what other way he will not use his constitutional powers to continue to bring happiness to citizens, he will leave his post and his people, why would he then all the prophecies, even from his Advanced Economic Advisor?
    1. +3
      29 September 2015 09: 47
      Quote: akudr48
      Our prince has not yet decided whether he will be on horseback after 2018.

      I think it’s great! Enough for him! No matter how well done he is, and respected by me as well, but the matter must be turned over to his followers. People are not eternal because.
  9. +5
    29 September 2015 08: 37
    An interesting movie ... You read and wonder, all around are great economists and the fathers of "Russian democracy", but they forgot only how Glazyev and why he left the "high post" in the government and what did he offer and tried to do ?! I think if Glazyev had not "matched" the position he occupied, then Vladimir Putin would not have let him go to a cannon shot, especially as an adviser! And in general, you'd better remember "Krylov's grandfather" with his very precise words: "... What to count as gossips, it's better to turn to godfather!"
  10. +2
    29 September 2015 09: 04
    Why argue in vain. I advise everyone who has not read to read S. Glazyev’s article on monetary policy, for example.
    http://www.glazev.ru/upload/iblock/129/1299749d3f0be1fe108d80969d6e718f.pdf
    There are other interesting articles on his website. Well, if someone wants to continue the rule of capital and the so-called "market", and in fact the bazaar economy, then you will not be interested.
  11. +3
    29 September 2015 09: 26
    But Nicholas II was more interested in hunting for ravens and cats than foreign policy and government.

    Has something changed now? True, interests are wider now: flights with Siberian Cranes, amphorae rising from the depths of the sea, diving in the bathyscaphe, flights on fighter jets and Be-200s. And if something else is trying to portray something in foreign policy, then in the internal politics, the people openly do not care.
    1. BMW
      +5
      29 September 2015 11: 23
      Quote: anip
      And if something else is trying to portray something in foreign policy, then in the internal politics, the people openly don’t give a damn


      I wrote on the next branch almost the same thing, zamusunusy. All of the boiling water from his speech is directly poured, an honest word of a new god is created. Ready to take a minus.
  12. +7
    29 September 2015 09: 26
    Glazyev is an adviser, he predicted what will happen to oil now and how it will affect us even during the start of the global crisis of 2007 (we have 2008). But no one, none of the powerful (and they are the same) did not listen to him. As a result - the ruble devaluation, the oil budget deficit, the reduction of social programs and the allocation of all reserves to support the oil and gas oligarchs. Why now should someone accept his report as a program of action? Medvedev, I am sure, did not even read it. He now has all the thoughts on the new iPhone and iPad pro.
  13. +1
    29 September 2015 09: 54
    Will the report of Glazyev change the history of Russia?
    To do this, at a minimum, Glazyev’s report should be heard above. And how to maximize-so that the domestic elite zazotela something to change.
    1. +2
      29 September 2015 11: 10
      But the so-called "elites" have found themselves in such a situation that it is already a no brainer: "Something needs to be changed."
  14. 0
    29 September 2015 11: 39
    It is not necessary to change something, it is necessary to DO something!
  15. +6
    29 September 2015 11: 50
    The existing political and economic structure of Russia will not allow making an economic breakthrough. Academician Glazyev's advice and plans are not destined to come true, since the authorities will not allow this. There is no one to fight for the implementation of the academician's ideas. A good sign, the election of a new governor in Irkutsk. People are already tired of the omnipotence of United Russia, but the central authorities will not let him fulfill his promises and will put a spoke in the wheels in every possible way, and then they will accuse him of incompetence. The President is not I.V. Stalin, therefore, will not be able to bring the academician's ideas to life. One thing remains, if only it doesn't get worse.
  16. 0
    29 September 2015 12: 15
    Quote: rosarioagro
    Quote: Riv
    This is a former Minister, a former deputy, a former presidential candidate, and even a member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, he is also a former.

    This is just a smart person.

    To carry out reforms according to Glazyev, one mind is not enough. Anyone who has ever been a leader will understand. In history, such reforms in the countries were carried out after abundant bloodletting (read - civil war). Now Russia does not need this.
    1. 0
      29 September 2015 19: 33
      Quote: Rods
      Now Russia does not need this.

      What does Russia need now?
    2. 0
      30 September 2015 01: 52
      Glazyev actually does not call for revolution ..
      1. 0
        30 September 2015 02: 04
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Glazyev actually does not call for revolution ..

        Well, yes, of course (a phrase that translators tend to hang on to. Especially if they are not Russian-speaking by birth)

        Glazyev merely calls for turning around 180 degrees and moving in this new direction. With acceleration.

        For me personally, Glazyev's ideas reminded me of such a program "500 days", in the 90s it was. And then she died quietly.

        But in general - here they have already said, I will repeat: the program is crude, has not been tested by anyone and anywhere, "reverse", in which case - you will not give it. Whether it will work or not is unknown. Performance guarantees - the word .. Glazyev. Will it not be enough?

        A risky thing, IMHO. And therefore - it is unlikely to be accepted, at least in general. Some ideas from there, perhaps, will go "to work". Let's take a look.

        That's something like Yes
  17. +4
    29 September 2015 12: 55
    Will the report of Glazyev change the history of Russia?


    The question is rhetorical. The answer is unequivocal - Glazyev’s report is incapable of changing the HISTORY of Russia, because the report of the thing is ethereal, and history is a series of real facts. Another question is whether the Glazyev report can influence the current economic policy of the government. My opinion is unlikely. Why? The administrative-oligarchic capitalism that exists in Russia is quite comfortable with the current state of affairs; to its representatives (this capitalism), the United States is not an enemy, but a source of wealth. Well, as for the people, here ... everything is according to Marx!

    Well, such a subjective thought. Yes
  18. 0
    29 September 2015 13: 16
    Quote: Tatar 174
    No matter how well done he is and respected by me as well, but the matter must be turned over to his followers



    It was said that the case should be turned over to investigators. And this would be true for any ruler.

    And then after the investigators go to court to file the case when the prince grows old, so after ... twenty.
  19. +1
    29 September 2015 17: 07
    People who have a link to the full report of Glazyev. And then again from empty to empty without reading.
  20. -1
    29 September 2015 18: 00
    As for Chubais, there is an opinion that he is a Rockefeller man who is a member of the Bilderberg Club, and that’s why no one is going to touch him, as 39 Stalin’s commissar didn’t touch A. Mikoyan in his time under Stalin.
  21. 0
    29 September 2015 18: 32
    Quote: Riv
    We read above about sixteen womniks. :)))
    There are many academicians, but the project turns out to be GLAZYEV.
    Spit urgently!

    Do you think Primakov was so smart? There were also a lot of people attacking him, but he received one laurel, because the merit of this one was that he rallied them around him and made him work. With Glazyev, the situation is similar.
  22. 0
    29 September 2015 18: 39
    When, finally, the GDP understands, the liberals must be driven and the economy must be saved!
  23. 0
    29 September 2015 20: 46
    Article 2. The authorized capital and other property of the Bank of Russia are federal property. In accordance with the goals and in the manner established by this Federal Law, BAnk of Russia exercises authority over the possession, use and disposal of Bank of Russia property, including the Bank of Russia gold and currency reserves. Withdrawal and encumbrance of obligations of the specified property without the consent of the Bank of Russia are not allowedunless otherwise provided by federal law.
    The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, and the Bank of Russia - for the obligations of the state, if they have not assumed such obligations or unless otherwise provided by federal laws.
    The Bank of Russia carries out its expenses from its own income.
    ----------------------------
    In other words, the federal property is used and disposed of by LLC "Horns and Hooves" without whose knowledge it, this property, cannot be deprived)
    4 Article. The Bank of Russia performs the following functions:
    1) in cooperation with the Government of the Russian Federation develops and conducts a unified state monetary and credit policy;
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    does not obey but interacts.
    2) monopolizes the issue of cash and organizes cash circulation;
    This is not the case with the Central Bank licenses. Who cares, read extracts from the register. Even the form of a legal entity is not indicated. Checked ..
    --------------------------------

    Article 10. The Bank of Russia has an authorized capital of 3 billion rubles.
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    Ridiculous in the scale of swindle nationwide

    Article 11. The profit of the Bank of Russia is defined as the difference between the amount of income from banking operations and transactions provided for in Article 46 of this Federal Law and transactions and income from participation in the capital of credit organizations and expenses associated with the Bank of Russia performing its functions established by Article 4 of this Federal Law.
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    In other words, usury and speculation.
    Article 20. Chairman of the Bank of Russia:
    1) acting on behalf of the Bank of Russia and represents, without a power of attorney, his interests in relations with public authorities, credit organizations, organizations of foreign states, international organizations, other institutions and organizations;
    --------------------
    Not on behalf of the Russian Federation
    -----------------------------

    And this is just a snap. But in general, the entire Central Bank with its own law, a solid jamb)
  24. -1
    29 September 2015 21: 12
    Wait and see!!!
  25. +1
    29 September 2015 21: 22
    this whole topic is somewhat different from a full-fledged real program tied to the current situation. This is some kind of vision, and most likely utopian. People do not understand that all the wealth of a country is not created by selling oil or even selling iPhones to suckers. Everything is created by taxes that come from the sale of the salary from that other and the third. The most interesting thing is that most of all taxes go to the budget not from the sale of oil, but from our pockets. And the richer the population, the more taxes will be received. And so that people do not hide their earnings, they should not be prohibited, but stimulated. Okay, there is a federal budget, but a local one, it is completed from people's extortions, and while the people are poor and our cities and villages will be poor. By simply increasing pensions, you can dramatically increase budget revenues, because these pensioners will not travel around Europe in their retirement and eat foie gras there, but go to the nearest general store and spend on their own sausage for bread for the products of the local poultry farm, and the "extra" money will be in Sberbank store that this bank should invest in expanding the business at a village or a sausage factory or a hairdresser's with a bakery, and not buy euros for them, driving the native ruble under the plinth ... This is generally not difficult, but even Glazyev has not a word half a word ... The communists have already sold out a long time ago and you can't really believe them ...
  26. -1
    29 September 2015 21: 35
    It's a shame for the country, nothing teaches our authorities. Now the feathers are up and all the media praise the Greatest, who defeated everyone. It is sad that even good deeds will not give it to Russia and its people the right for the future, since our economy is degrading, it is only doing it more slowly than before, but it is still degrading.
    And the matter is not even in it, in that social system that we have in the yard. And while the liberals are in power, we won’t have to wait for anything good.
    Only a planned economy, untied from the global predatory system, the ruble and a strong financial system, can get us out of the deadlock. And the country, like ours, the people should have clear and understandable ways and goals. What is not and is not expected in this situation. And it’s a pity, I’m sure, because the best years, as it turned out, I lived in the USSR.
  27. +1
    29 September 2015 23: 10
    Opponents of Russia's return to the circle of influential countries of the world are doing everything possible to bleed the country's economy. Glazyev is a responsible and decent person, a patriot of Russia, he is competent and offers concrete measures to overcome the crisis. But many do not like it. It is understandable: the change of the liberal government and the nationalization of the Central Bank will make Russia the richest country in the world.

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