NI: T-54 / 55 - this is “Kalashnikov” in the world of tanks

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Tanks The T-54 and T-55, like the AK-47, have become truly popular in many countries of the world due to the ease of use and maintenance, according to an article published in The National Interest magazine.



“Designed over 60 years ago, the T-54 tank was first used in Budapest to suppress the 1956 uprising of the year. In the course of the Vietnam War, the tank showed invulnerability to the American M41, easily destroying the enemy, which was inferior in the rate of fire ", - quotes the author RIA News.

“Most of the improvements of the T-55 compared to its predecessor have affected the internal systems,” writes the publication. - In particular, sealing of the command compartment and protection against radioactive dust in case of a nuclear strike was provided. The tank gun received an additional nine shells. Instead of tank guns SGM, T-55 was equipped with Kalashnikov machine guns, and after 1961, it was supplemented with anti-radiation protection and air filtration system. ”

According to the author, initially the developers of the T-55 "refused to use the DShK machine gun, finding it ineffective against fighter jets, however, with the advent of new combat anti-tank helicopters, they returned the machine gun."

The magazine notes that at the time of the widespread use of the T-54 / 55 tanks, "they were often defeated against similar or more modern Western counterparts." However, the author connects this with poor training of foreign crews (as in Vietnam) and tactical mistakes of command (as during the Arab-Israeli war).

The disadvantages of the machines, according to the publication, are "low rate of fire, uncomfortable conditions for the crew, the shaking motion and cases of loss of the caterpillar."

At the same time, the author emphasizes that "in most 21 wars of the century, a tank does not have to be difficult - it is enough to be inexpensive, affordable, and deadly."

And this means that "the steel monsters T-54 and T-55 will not for one decade retain their popularity despite some combat flaws," concludes the publication.
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  1. +32
    27 September 2015 12: 39
    Here, here - when comparing abrams and other Western unread with our new technology, I tell myself - they are not our old men the fact that they’re gored bully
    1. -64
      27 September 2015 12: 47
      T-54 and T-55 tanks, like AK-47

      facepalm.
      no such machine
      1. +41
        27 September 2015 12: 58
        Quote: rpek32
        T-54 and T-55 tanks, like AK-47

        facepalm.
        no such machine

        Oh how! What is this?
        1. +14
          27 September 2015 13: 52
          Quote: Penetrator
          Oh how! What is this?

          Oh my God.
          7,62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifle (AK)[2] - a combined-arms machine, adopted by the USSR in 1949; GRAU index - 56-A-212. It was designed in 1947 by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov.
          1. +24
            27 September 2015 14: 01
            Quote: rpek32

            Oh my God.
            7,62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifle (AK)[2] - a combined-arms machine, adopted by the USSR in 1949; GRAU index - 56-A-212. It was designed in 1947 by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov.

            Love Wikipedia, the source of knowledge! smile
            1. -22
              27 September 2015 14: 29
              Quote: Penetrator
              Love Wikipedia, the source of knowledge!

              Of course, I don’t poke AK in a row and I don’t say that it is AK-47
              1. +59
                27 September 2015 15: 14
                Quote: rpek32

                Of course, I don’t poke AK in a row and I don’t say that it is AK-47

                Dear, you are just a bore. bully Have you noticed the publication that published the article? The National Interest. For Americans, AK will always be AK-47, and nothing else. Anyway, it has already become a common name. And your statement is identical to the statement, for example, that there were no such German WWII tanks as the T-IV. After all, only the German name PzKpfw IV has the right to exist! So do not be clever and do not be a formalist. And people will reach for you smile
                1. +8
                  27 September 2015 18: 23
                  Quote: Penetrator
                  For Americans, AK will always be AK-47

                  And I’m deeply poorer ..., knee-deep in general, as our machine guns are called by foreigners!
          2. +13
            27 September 2015 14: 43
            Quote: rpek32
            Oh my God.

            The Lord will not help here, teach the materiel!
            1. +2
              27 September 2015 18: 24
              Marketing, you know!
            2. +6
              27 September 2015 19: 06
              Quote: WUA 518
              The Lord will not help here, teach the materiel!

              here and learn: http://www.sinopa.ee/sor/bo001/bo04av/bo04av01/opit23/ak023.htm
              1. +6
                27 September 2015 19: 29
                Quote: rpek32
                here and learn: http://www.sinopa.ee/sor/bo001/bo04av/bo04av01/opit23/ak023.htm
                Well? Here is your link: In this version of the machine, approved in 1953, almost all the changes made by the designer in the prototype of 1951 were introduced. The receiver is milled.

                In the official Supplement to the Small Arms Manual, published in 1955, a new model is called the Lightweight 7,62 mm Kalashnikov Assault Rifle (AK).

                And where does it come from? What are we talking about? Here are from Kalashnikov’s memoirs: For the production of the series (AK-47 batch), the technical documentation was adjusted very quickly; for this, Mikhail Timofeevich and I were given two weeks. At the indicated time, the drawings were corrected, and I had to write the technical specifications already in the process of mass production. Representatives of the Kovrov Plant Zaitsev and V.I. Soloviev, as well as lieutenant colonel BC Deikin and military representative captain S.Ya. Sukhitsky. " As Zaitsev goes on: “It can be noted that V.I. Soloviev provided us with great assistance in conducting analytical calculations, updating drawings for the development of technical processes and mastering production, ... having taught me Mikhail Timofeevich how to calculate dimensional chains and the rules for introducing products into mass production. In the summer of 1948, a series of AK-47 products was manufactured and sent for testing, and V.I. and I Solovyov returned to Kovrov. " The chief designer of plant No. 524 D.A. was responsible for the development of technical documentation and the manufacture of an experimental batch of machines Vinokgoiz. Izhevsk submachine guns were delivered on time.
          3. +2
            28 September 2015 15: 55
            Quote: rpek32
            Oh my God.
            7,62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifle (AK) [2] - a combined-arms assault rifle adopted for service in the USSR in the 1949 year; GRAU index - 56-A-212. It was designed in the 1947 year by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov.

            In the same way as there is no "Schmeiser" and Me-109)))). Where do such boring "truth-lovers" come from ????
            1. 0
              28 September 2015 17: 53
              The Schmeiser is a police submachine gun that entered production before the Erma Mashinenpistole MP-38 submachine gun.
          4. 0
            29 September 2015 08: 45
            Type of brains scored, huh?
          5. +2
            29 September 2015 08: 51
            "There is no such thing - a Makarov pistol, there is: (PM, GRAU Index - 56-A-125) - a self-loading [2] pistol, developed by the Soviet designer Nikolai Fedorovich Makarov in 1948" .... Cool, right? There is an AK-47 , there is a Makarov pistol and so on ... no one cares what kind of GRAU they have
        2. 0
          27 September 2015 14: 12
          Quote: Penetrator
          Quote: rpek32
          T-54 and T-55 tanks, as well as the AK-47
          facepalm.
          no such machine
          Oh how! What is this?

          He’s never literate or just pinned.
          1. +5
            27 September 2015 16: 24
            Quote: Oleg147741
            no such machine
            Oh how! What is this?
            He’s never literate or just pinned.

            Much ado about nothing.
            The CA documents used both the name AK (Manual on the page) and Ak-47 (Brief instructions ...). Yes
            1. +1
              27 September 2015 17: 29
              Н
              Quote: Alekseev

              Much ado about nothing.
              The CA documents used both the name AK (Manual on the page) and Ak-47 (Brief instructions ...). Yes

              Well yes. Even in military men they recorded it in different ways.
            2. +1
              28 September 2015 14: 05
              Scans of Russian documents with the name "AK-47" were repeatedly uploaded on the Hansa:
        3. +2
          27 September 2015 17: 45
          Quote: Penetrator
          Oh how! What is this?


          Andrei, if my memory serves me well, then this is AKM (a Kalashnikov assault rifle modernized), at least because the fire interpreter has two modes, and the AK-47 did not have a single rate of fire.

          That's probably somehow. sad
          1. +2
            27 September 2015 18: 30
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            [
            Andrei, if my memory serves me well, then this is AKM (a Kalashnikov assault rifle modernized), at least because the fire interpreter has two modes, and the AK-47 did not have a single rate of fire.

            That's probably somehow. sad

            I insist this is AK! smile By the way, wasn’t it a single-fire mode? In my opinion, only the weight has changed (AKM has become easier), the butt is different and .. Everything seems to be. Not yet trigger with a trigger moderator. Look like that's it. But is this irrelevant?
            Py.Sy. I asked my father. He says there was a single fire on AK. smile
            1. +2
              27 September 2015 19: 03
              on AKM, a compensator appeared on the barrel ...
            2. +2
              27 September 2015 23: 02
              Quote: Penetrator
              In my opinion, only the weight has changed (AKM has become easier), the butt is different and .. Everything seems to be. Not yet trigger with a trigger moderator. Look like that's it. But is this irrelevant?
              Py.Sy. I asked my father. He says there was a single fire on AK.

              It was solitary. Outwardly, the butt (its fastening) changed, a compensator appeared, stiffening ribs on the receiver cover, plastic pistol grip ... The rest is inside.http://gunrf.ru/rg_avtomat_akm_ru.html
              1. +1
                28 September 2015 02: 23
                Quote: Prapor-527
                It was solitary. Outwardly, the butt (its fastening) changed, a compensator appeared, stiffening ribs on the receiver cover, a plastic pistol grip ... The rest is inside.http: //gunrf.ru/rg_avtomat_akm_ru.html


                Dmitry, it's nice to meet a competent like-minded person on the site.

                Like that. good
        4. +1
          27 September 2015 18: 20
          This is AK !!!!
        5. -11
          27 September 2015 20: 59
          PUGACH KALASHNIKOVA degtyareva
        6. -1
          28 September 2015 14: 06
          Quote: Penetrator

          Oh how! What is this?
          The question corresponds to the avatar .... and nickname)))
      2. +9
        27 September 2015 13: 01
        Quote: rpek32
        facepalm. no such machine

        You are right, but there is a nuance:
        "An AK with a solid-milled receiver is called the AK-47 Type II in the West." (quote and photo from Wiki)
        1. +2
          27 September 2015 19: 26
          Quote: villain
          "An AK with a solid-milled receiver is called the AK-47 Type II in the West." (quote and photo from Wiki)

          The bottom line is that type 1 is a stamped receiver, and milled - type 2.
      3. +1
        27 September 2015 15: 11
        Quote: rpek32
        T-54 and T-55 tanks, like AK-47

        facepalm.
        no such machine


        Trolling or ignorance of equipment? belay
        1. -7
          27 September 2015 19: 00
          Quote: supertiger21
          Trolling or ignorance of equipment?

          ak-47 find - call
      4. 0
        28 September 2015 14: 44
        Damn, and in our army it was they who were. AK-47 and RPK-74 assault rifles

        Learn materiel dear)
    2. +24
      27 September 2015 12: 53
      In Syria, they fight only on the road:
      1. +12
        27 September 2015 13: 32
        The last upgrade is very interesting. T-55М6 - The tank had: a turret from the T-72B with an 125-mm gun installed, and behind the turret was a container with an automatic loader on the 22 shot; built-in dynamic defense tower and hull; B-46-5М engine with power 690 hp; new fire control system (at customer’s option from T-72B, or T-80У). The body is extended, the sixth track roller has been added. Installation of basic skating rinks from T-55, T-72 and T-80 is possible.
        And still T-55AM. New version of the modernization of obsolete tanks
        So the old man may well still make war.
        1. +7
          27 September 2015 14: 20
          The experience of military operations shows that in the use of armored vehicles, their competent use, quantity, maintainability and reliability are of predominant importance, even to some extent to the detriment of "advanced technologies." And the t-54, 55, if skillfully used as part of a unit, can cause "trouble" to anyone, especially with a 125 mm gun.
        2. +2
          27 September 2015 14: 59
          "The sixth road roller" - how's that? Running from the T-72 or something else? I can't imagine how the T-55 armored hull can be converted into a "sixth road roller" ... How much will it cost and is it necessary?
          1. +3
            27 September 2015 16: 44
            Quote: TRex
            How much will it cost and is it necessary?

            That's right!
            If it was so easy to install a more powerful gun on the T-55, then ... the T-62 would not have appeared. laughing
            Although these cars are very similar.
            And it is not necessary to make costly and ineffective attempts to make of the old and good horse something that can surpass the very T-72.
            He, the horse of this, needs to be equipped with an effective remote sensing system, modern SLAs, surveillance devices, an inside anti-splinter lining, a V-46 diesel (a V-84 may not pull the transmission), perhaps boosters to facilitate the control of the CP and MP, and it will still serve!
    3. +2
      27 September 2015 15: 18
      In Syria, the T-55 is still successfully fighting.
      From T-62 for Syria and Egypt they make a beast capable of crushing the western MBT.
      1. dyksi
        +13
        27 September 2015 20: 30
        Interesting news, almost to the point, the Houthis seized "Leclerc", the reliability still needs to be confirmed, but still. True, it is not clear that he was immobilized, or the "brave" tankers from the UAE broke Olympic records in sprint. Most likely, of course, the second assumption is correct.
    4. +1
      28 September 2015 14: 40
      Do not remember about Iraq)
    5. +2
      28 September 2015 18: 02
      Quote: Denis DV
      Here, here - when comparing abrams and other Western unread with our new technology, I tell myself - they are not our old men the fact that they’re gored

      So there was an article on VO where the ROMANIANS were on the exercises! (Romanians Karl!) On the updated T-55 they kicked striped backs on the "Abrams" .. The mattresses commented on these things like "They have the wrong system of grenades .." lol
  2. +7
    27 September 2015 12: 42
    Are the old men still fighting?
    1. +31
      27 September 2015 13: 20
      They are fighting. I don’t know what the tank is in the video, but the armor is clearly Russian ...
      1. +6
        27 September 2015 19: 26
        Quote: sabakina
        They are fighting. I don’t know what the tank is in the video, but the armor is clearly Russian ...

        WoT Lover's Nightmare "DO NOT PUNCH" good
        1. +2
          29 September 2015 12: 32
          Yes b..b as not struck ??? !!! Full mixing, sideways, almost point blank !!!
          1. +3
            29 September 2015 20: 50
            Quote: Borets
            Yes b..b as not struck ??? !!! Full mixing, sideways, almost point blank !!!

            RRB my friend.
    2. bif
      +3
      27 September 2015 14: 30
      Quote: Vovochka15
      Are the old men still fighting?

      All of Africa and most of the Middle East ...
      When I read about the T-54 \ 55, I immediately recall a passage from the memoirs of the American Marine ...

      "Hfamous war. Russian eyes of an American.
      A couple of years ago in the American newspaper an interesting material was published dedicated to the fortieth anniversary of one small, but dirty war waged by the USA, Algeria, Ethiopia and Somalia. In this war, there is no right, some guilty.

      A small explanation: the events described unfold in the now infamous Gulf of Aden. “Tankist”, aka “bearded captain” - Major Eremenko Nikolay Ignatievich, commander of a separate battalion of 104 TB of the dowry of the UN mission.

      THE CONFESSION OF A LIEUTENANT OF THE MARINE ... "
      http://topwar.ru/5217-neizvestnaya-voyna-russkie-glazami-amerikanca.html
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 12: 29
        THE CONFESSION OF A LIEUTENANT OF THE MARINE ... "
        http://topwar.ru/5217-neizvestnaya-voyna-russkie-glazami-amerikanca.html

        Unfortunately, this is from fiction. Mediocre reading from a series of "special forces" or similar series.
  3. +2
    27 September 2015 12: 42
    What a deep study, fundamental research .... where is the cheers to shout?
    1. +3
      27 September 2015 12: 47
      Quote: Lazer
      What a deep study, fundamental research .... where is the cheers to shout?

      And shout right now. Here the people will support us - we’ll throw hats of any adversary. If the local people believe such vysery
      “The steel monsters T-54 and T-55 will continue to be popular for decades despite some military shortcomings”
      About how: "steel monsters", "not one decade" .. And why do we need some kind of "Armata"?
      But in fact: at present, the old people are only able to drive wild Zulus with an arrow. And against modern means of vocational training, they do not channel. Can anyone argue reasonably?
      1. +20
        27 September 2015 12: 57
        T-54 (55) - the only machine available for countries not able to purchase more modern tanks. For the fight against illegal armed groups, all kinds of terrorist and other gangs, this simple and reliable machine is quite suitable for them.
        1. +4
          27 September 2015 13: 50
          Quote: bolat19640303
          T-54 (55) - the only machine available for countries not able to purchase more modern tanks.

          But why? Another T-62 can be added to this list ...
          1. +7
            27 September 2015 22: 13
            Quote: svp67
            But why? Another T-62 can be added to this list ...

            The most terrible car is the Indian Arjun. Enemy soldiers from laughter are made unfit ... laughing
      2. +7
        27 September 2015 13: 19
        TR-85 "Bizon", which forms the basis of the country's armored forces and is a deeply modernized version of the Soviet T-55, produced in the USSR in the 50s. last century".
        http://topwar.ru/58214-rumynskie-modernizirovannye-t-55-pobili-na-ucheniyah-amer
        ikanskie-abramsy.html
        And more
        Romanian modernized Soviet tanks T-55 at the NATO exercises knocked out American Abrams

        Source: http://politikus.ru/events/29668-rumynskie-modernizirovannye-sovetskie-tanki-t-5
        5-na-ucheniyah-nato-vybili-amerikanskie-abramsy.html
        Politikus.ru
        1. -2
          27 September 2015 13: 31
          Hello dear fellow countryman, the best modernization of the T-54/55 is Ukrainian with a 125 mm cannon, reinforced armor (by applying an additional sheet) and modern suo (in my French company), a new engine, side screens, fire extinguishing system
          1. +7
            27 September 2015 13: 53
            Quote: 31rus
            Hello dear fellow countryman, the best modernization of the T-54/55 is Ukrainian with a 125 mm cannon, reinforced armor (by applying an additional sheet) and modern suo (in my French company), a new engine, side screens, fire extinguishing system

            Very controversial. There are also Omsk and St. Petersburg modifications, and several
            Here is the "fat man"

            And this is she, but with a gun from T72
            1. +2
              27 September 2015 15: 33
              For a year in 1997-98 I saw about T55 with 125mm at a training ground in Topchikha (Altai Territory). About 125mm for sure, I talked with officers and you can’t confuse it anyway. What kind of modification - hz
            2. 0
              27 September 2015 16: 20
              Yes, you’re right, but these upgrades (essentially a new tank) were offered a little later and didn’t go anywhere because of the high cost
            3. +1
              28 September 2015 15: 44
              And this is she, but with a gun from T72

              If this is "she", why is the number of rollers different ??? On the first photo -5, on the second - 6!
            4. 0
              28 September 2015 18: 13
              On the top photo of the T-54, this can be seen from the single first rink, on the T-55 the first pair is highlighted, but in the bottom photo there are six !! Track rollers, not five like on the T-54 and T-55. In the photo T-64. On the T-62, the chassis is similar to the T-55, there are five large track rollers, and on the T-64 there are six smaller track rollers.
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        3. 0
          28 September 2015 16: 36
          something running is clearly not from the T-55. It looks like a left photo
      3. 0
        27 September 2015 14: 11
        Quote: Penetrator
        Quote: Lazer
        What a deep study, fundamental research .... where is the cheers to shout?
        And shout right now. Here the people will support us - we’ll throw hats of any adversary. If the local people believe such vysery
        "Steel monsters T-54 and T-55 will retain their popularity for more than a decade despite some combat shortcomings" Oh, how: "steel monsters", "not one decade" .. And why do we need some kind of "Armata"?
        But in fact: at present, the old people are only able to drive wild Zulus with an arrow. And against modern means of vocational training, they do not channel. Can anyone argue reasonably?

        And you, together with a laser, try to ponder the meaning of the article - although at the end of your post, without realizing it, you answered it ..... Naturally, they are suitable mainly for and against zusuls. In Africa, the T34 and Su 100 also successfully romp.
        1. +2
          27 September 2015 14: 46
          But why? In fortified areas, it is good to use bunkers as bunkers.
          1. +1
            27 September 2015 15: 00
            Quote: Amurets
            But why? In fortified areas, it is good to use bunkers as bunkers.

            Only these fortified areas except perhaps the Kuril Islands in the Far East are almost gone. Was last year in Primorye in Barabash. Everything that can be exported to scrap metal has long been exported. From the tank towers that are poured into concrete, the gun trunks were cut.
      4. +5
        27 September 2015 19: 30
        Quote: Penetrator
        And against modern means of vocational training, they do not channel. Can anyone argue reasonably?

        And what is there to object? Abrams with Armata, as well as other Merkavas, are not used against well-used modern (and not so) means of VET.
        PS Damn what for about "merkava" said that ?! SchA professor will come and an ambassador to me. Gores.
      5. +2
        28 September 2015 00: 18
        And against modern means of vocational training, they do not channel. Can anyone argue reasonably?


        I'll try. Then which tank is "channeling"? On which tank would you personally agree to attack, breaking away from your infantry? Sit on the "Armata" and rush to take the city outright? Oh well...
  4. +4
    27 September 2015 12: 44
    Well, if you suspend dynamic and other defenses, then this old man will brush his teeth on the abrams and leopard, and if in the steppe against manpower, then this is simply the god of war.
    1. +2
      27 September 2015 13: 03
      Quote: nemec55
      Well, if you suspend dynamic and other defenses, then this old man will brush his teeth on Abrams and Leopard

      Are you seriously? About Abrams and Leopard? Oh yes, the "Merkava" and "Leclerc" were forgotten - those modernized T-54/55 finally have one tooth!
      1. 0
        27 September 2015 14: 07
        In good hands and x shovel
        You understand very well that if you put on good armor, you’ll have a much better chance of knocking up a modern tank because there’s no big role to fire from a T90 or T54 barrel; I don’t think the type of Tobish shell is important if you charge a decent projectile at 45 it will effectively burn modern tanks
      2. -2
        27 September 2015 14: 41
        Then why did they need a 152mm barrel on Artatu? T55, T54 is an excellent tank of its time. Such would be in the Second World War, they would have been driven by Panther and Tigers. It’s just scratching my forehead. Even the new ones. The muzzle energy is weak. they burned Abrasha from the DShK, smashing a generator handed over for the armor. It flowed and burned. But this is usually an exception.
  5. +17
    27 September 2015 12: 47
    we had them in the 2 Chechen regiment, with Buryat crews !!!! GLORY to the USSR technique !!!!!
    1. +26
      27 September 2015 14: 28
      Quote: starshina pv
      we had them in the 2 Chechen regiment, with Buryat crews !!!! GLORY to the USSR technique !!!!!

      In the 2, the Chechen of the tanks of that family was fought mainly by the modernized T-62 (pictured). The most famous military unit, which was armed with T-62M tanks, was the 160-th Guards Tank Regiment from the Siberian Military District. Already not new tanks with proper use have shown themselves very well in combat. It was this regiment that was commanded by Yu.D. Budanov (eternal memory to him)!
  6. +4
    27 September 2015 12: 47
    T-54-Swan song by A.A. Morozov, T-64 is not the same. And T-55 is a successful test of the pen by L.N. Kartseva.
  7. +5
    27 September 2015 12: 52
    During the Vietnam War, the tank showed invulnerability to the American M41

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that these American tanks were of the light class. How can they be compared with T-54?
    1. 0
      27 September 2015 15: 36
      On the one hand. But on the other, no. You can compare performance characteristics in a particular class or you can directly rivals.
    2. 0
      30 September 2015 12: 13
      At the beginning of the war, the United States used the M41, but then they mainly had the M48 in service.
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  9. +8
    27 September 2015 12: 54
    But the T-54 is a restyled T-44, which in the 44th they wanted to put into service, but they were afraid to lose the release rate. And after the war, there was a sharp transition from wartime tanks, with a relatively small resource, to world time tanks, where the resource should be large, since the cost of operation became prevailing. And so the 54th appeared. Nothing more, but deadly and quite suitable for most regional conflicts.
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    2. +6
      27 September 2015 13: 09
      Yes, the T-44 was a breakthrough in general, what is it about. Torsion bar suspension, dviglo stands across, the radio button has been removed. True, they released something like 700-900, I do not remember.
      1. 0
        29 September 2015 12: 36
        1823 pieces, with about 190 pieces during the war years.
  10. +2
    27 September 2015 13: 01
    truly popular in many countries of the world due to ease of use and maintenance

    And this is the most important thing in battle. And not its value and sophistication.
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  11. +24
    27 September 2015 13: 03
    You know, I’m not a military expert, but it seems to me that if a world mess of the 2-World type begins (God forbid), then all these electronic systems, which are stuffed with modern weapons, will only play a role at first. No one replaced the good old piece of iron working with the help of a sledgehammer and such and such a mother. Weapons must be functional, quick-change, and inexpensive to mass produce.
    1. +3
      27 September 2015 13: 26
      But I still didn’t reach the T-54 in the Vot ... crying
      1. +6
        28 September 2015 00: 04
        Are you a man or a woman?
      2. -2
        29 September 2015 17: 33
        And I got there, sold it when I took the T-62, but then I bought it again, the T-54 tank was really cheating in the game.
      3. 0
        29 September 2015 21: 58
        lost nothing.
    2. 0
      29 September 2015 17: 32
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      No one replaced the good old piece of iron working with the help of a sledgehammer and such and such a mother.

      Electronics complements the iron, but does not replace it, everything will be used.
  12. +6
    27 September 2015 13: 21
    It seems to me that the T-54/55 was good for its time, but now the reality is different, we need new armor and any active protection. Even from filming from Syria, it is clear that it is used mainly as an SPG, in battles in urban areas it is hard for it, since ISIS uses ATGM "sheep" systemically, and modern RPG shots are very dangerous for it - defense is zero. Although I agree - the weapon must be in good condition, and not just new soldier
  13. -5
    27 September 2015 13: 29
    Quote: sabakina
    But I still didn’t reach the T-54 in the Vot ... crying


    Hands do not grow from there to see. More precisely, which hands are claws)
  14. +14
    27 September 2015 13: 37
    I have this one, T-10-M.
    He puffed heavily when he drove in. No wonder, diesel is how old.
    1. +2
      27 September 2015 14: 04
      Quote: Barracuda
      I have this one, T-10-M.

      At the streets in the circle of him are still the names of Frunze, Sverdlov and Kommunarskaya, or already renamed?
      1. +2
        27 September 2015 18: 47
        Kommunarskaya, Karl Marx. Frunze .. guessed winked
        1. +1
          28 September 2015 05: 06
          Quote: Barracuda
          Kommunarskaya, Karl Marx. Frunze .. guessed winked

          Knew ... Been around this monument.
          1. 0
            28 September 2015 05: 29
            Isn't Biker an hour? And often cavalcades sweep across the Dnieper. wink
    2. +2
      27 September 2015 14: 15
      In the 80 along the Amur, the tiers stood from T-34-76 to T-10-M. There were especially many ISs, even the IS-7 seems to have been. IS-2 and IS-3 are accurate, but there were tanks similar to IS -3 but the bow of the hull is not like neither the T-10 nor the IS-3.
      1. +2
        27 September 2015 15: 17
        Quote: Amurets
        In the 80 along the Amur, the tiers stood from T-34-76 to T-10-M. There were especially many ISs, even the IS-7 seems to have been. IS-2 and IS-3 are accurate, but there were tanks similar to IS -3 but the bow of the hull is not like neither the T-10 nor the IS-3.

        From the fortified area on the islands near Khabarovsk, which our "God-given" presented to the Chinese, it was the IS-3 (frontal armor with a "pike nose") that was taken out.
      2. +4
        27 September 2015 15: 42
        IS4, produced 200 pcs., All fell into a steel line on the border with China. The armor is enhanced compared to the IS3, but heavier and less sedentary, in Europe it is no longer a channel as a means of breaking through and tank attack. It is characteristic that the English with their Conquerors and Chieftains. on the contrary, they emphasized a different point of view — the mobility of the tank was useless in the conditions of the numerical superiority of the enemy’s tanks, a powerful accurate long-range gun and powerful armor were needed. The English tank in battle was supposed to withstand the fire of the enemy and break his resistance with his fire. In part, this tactic worked — in Korea, the Centurions were out of reach for the T34, firing them from long distances, being on top of a hill. The appearance of the pachyderm M60 and Chiften spurred in 1963 the feverish development of new anti-tank weapons in the USSR. If 115 mm is smooth. the cannon was a response to the English 105 mm, the smooth-bore 125 mm was the answer to the armor of the M60 and Chieftain, 120 mm to the Englishwoman. And a classic example - the slow-moving Centurions liked the Israelis more than the quick AMX51, because they performed a combat mission, not being distracted by thoughts about the degree of reliability of their armor and the power of the gun. And the crews of the АМХ51 devoted all the filming to finding the shortest way to the next closest shelter.
      3. 0
        28 September 2015 18: 23
        Apparently the IS-8 heavyweight.
  15. +2
    27 September 2015 13: 41
    For its time, a great tank. It is often remade and its combat capabilities improve. Redo it all and sundry, starting with the Indians and Papuans, and ending with the Americans. American alteration is probably the most beautiful, in my opinion, do not swear much. It is interesting that as early as 1960, television observation devices were tested on the T-55. Three video cameras were installed on the tank, one on the hull and 3 on the tower. For the driver there were 2 TVs, the main one from the camera on the body and an additional commander from the camera. The complex was called Diamond. And this is in 2 !!!!!!!
  16. +1
    27 September 2015 13: 54
    The basis of the T54 / 55 of this machine is simplicity and reliability, as well as maintainability in the field. The tanks are fighting specialists, not amateurs. As they say to a bad dancer, something always bothers ... soldier
  17. +2
    27 September 2015 14: 04
    Quote: rvsn90
    It seems to me that the T-54/55 was good for its time, but now the reality is different, we need new armor and any active protection. Even from filming from Syria, it is clear that it is used mainly as an SPG, in battles in urban areas it is hard for it, since ISIS uses ATGM "sheep" systemically, and modern RPG shots are very dangerous for it - defense is zero. Although I agree - the weapon must be in good condition, and not just new soldier



    I’ll tell you a secret - it’s extremely difficult for any tank in the city, especially without infantry cover. Abrams in cities also burn like matches. Examples- Grozny 95 and Mosul in Iraq.)) The tank is a weapon of breakthrough defense and a jerk in depth)))
  18. 0
    27 September 2015 14: 33
    "Cockroach" Foreva.)))
  19. 0
    27 September 2015 16: 10
    Quote: Penetrator
    So do not be clever and do not be a formalist. And people will reach for you smile

    Bravo! fellow All right!
    And as for our T-54 / 55 tanks, then ... in the case of a bo-o-o-booze, these old men will go into battle and show themselves.
  20. UVB
    0
    27 September 2015 16: 48
    A question for specialists. In one of the films of the famous "Bondiana" James cuts across Peter on a tank, the same T-55. I just didn't understand why the driver's seat in the film is on the right? Were there such in nature? After all, this is not a car that can be produced for different countries with both right and left steering wheels. Who can explain this?
    1. 0
      27 September 2015 18: 30
      There generally was an imitation of a tank based on a car. The wheels are masked by rubber type aprons ...
  21. -1
    27 September 2015 18: 51
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: starshina pv
    we had them in the 2 Chechen regiment, with Buryat crews !!!! GLORY to the USSR technique !!!!!

    In the 2, the Chechen of the tanks of that family was fought mainly by the modernized T-62 (pictured). The most famous military unit, which was armed with T-62M tanks, was the 160-th Guards Tank Regiment from the Siberian Military District. Already not new tanks with proper use have shown themselves very well in combat. It was this regiment that was commanded by Yu.D. Budanov (eternal memory to him)!

    but they fought not against tanks, but against partisans. and in general the main advantage of the T55 is its cheapness and their incredible number.
  22. 0
    27 September 2015 20: 42
    Quote: Penetrator
    Quote: rpek32
    T-54 and T-55 tanks, like AK-47

    facepalm.
    no such machine

    Oh how! What is this?

    See the gopher? He may not be. And the AK-47, and the t-55, are definitely there!
  23. +2
    27 September 2015 21: 01
    our equipment has been hit by the advice made huge, catch up not to overtake
  24. 0
    27 September 2015 23: 27
    Quote: seregatara1969
    our equipment has been hit by the advice made huge, catch up not to overtake

    quantityooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!
  25. +2
    28 September 2015 06: 14
    Why is there a T-54 / 55. How many years have matugygs with adaptations been carrying around exhibitions? And after all there is no equivalent alternative yet. More precisely, it can eat, but more expensive, more complicated ...
    And again, the weapon must be on the enemy. The countries that buy the T-54 / 55 and are not going to fight against NATO or the United States. They will fight against the same inexpensive tanks.
  26. 0
    29 September 2015 09: 25
    an excellent budget option because as Comrade Stalin said, "It is better to have an old and inferior tank. than not to have anyone."
  27. 0
    29 September 2015 22: 39
    Great tank. I had to disassemble such at the time of the victory of "new thinking".