Russia will respond to Kiev "mirror sanctions" against airlines

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As soon as Moscow receives official confirmation of the ban on flights to Ukraine to two Russian airlines, it will immediately introduce “mirror sanctions” against Ukrainian air carriers, reports RIA News message from the Minister of Transport of the Russian Federation Maxim Sokolov.



“We have not yet received official explanations or official bans from Ukraine, but as soon as we receive them, we will introduce retaliatory measures, and two Ukrainian airlines will also not be allowed to fly to Russia,” Sokolov said on the air of the channel "Russia 1".

He stressed that “about 70% of passengers flying from Russia to Ukraine and back are citizens of Ukraine, and those who fly to Moscow often followed to Europe and other countries of the world.”

“By this measure, the Ukrainian authorities are driving, first of all, their citizens into such transport isolation even inside Europe, because the mobility of passengers and the mobility of Ukrainian citizens will seriously decrease,” the minister said.

Sokolov is sure: the introduction of such sanctions by Kiev is “an absolutely ill-considered step that will lead to losses not only for Russian airlines, but above all for the aviation business of Ukraine.”

“If such a situation develops consistently thanks to the Ukrainian authorities, then ultimately this will lead to a complete degradation of the aviation communication (in Ukraine),” he added.

Recall, on Friday, Yatsenyuk announced the decision of the Cabinet of Ministers (at the suggestion of the NSDC) to ban flights to Ukraine to two Russian companies, Aeroflot and Transaero.

Also, Kiev banned “transit flights of Russian airlines through the territory of Ukraine, if they contain military goods, dual-use or Russian military manpower”.
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  1. +42
    27 September 2015 08: 34
    Russia will respond to Kiev "mirror sanctions" against airlines

    If he answers here, the people will understand. And for some reason the people did not understand with the "otvetka" for gas and electricity. And, as it seems to me, he begins to understand less and less. Or is it just it seems? (Sorry for the casuistry).
    1. +35
      27 September 2015 08: 38
      Are "Mirror Sanctions" Yet Another Gas Discount?
      1. -9
        27 September 2015 09: 21
        Quote: Marxist
        Are "Mirror Sanctions" Yet Another Gas Discount?

        You, Marxist, just to cf @ h to venture. Forget
        1. +25
          27 September 2015 09: 45
          Quote: Marxist
          Are "Mirror Sanctions" Yet Another Gas Discount?

          This means that the remnants of ukroaviakompanii with their litakmi go through the forest. Ruins airports will lose money for taking off / landing / servicing / refueling our planes. Another shot in the leg of the "growing" economy of Ruinda. Another peremogy over the mind.
          1. +8
            27 September 2015 10: 04
            Quote: inkass_98
            This means that the remnants of Ukrainian airlines with their litakmi go through the forest. And airports Ruins will lose money for takeoff /

            Comrades, when our mirrored replies, then we’ll talk, and this is an empty statement, but dummies, we have heard enough from our authorities how many smile
            1. 0
              27 September 2015 19: 16
              another ganofuda ukrorpov. know the LCD will lose more. yes see striped promised to compensate
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          3. +1
            27 September 2015 12: 17
            I wonder how much it costs to service the flight of our IL-76 aircraft. Well, or TU-134? Or what is flying there?
            1. gjv
              0
              27 September 2015 17: 59
              Quote: sabakina
              I wonder how much it costs to service the flight of our IL-76 aircraft. Well, or TU-134? Or what is flying there?

              What flies - look in the schedule and in the directory specify the tonnage taking into account the baggage of passengers or commercial load and count. Here are the rates for Ukrainian airports in 2014.
              TAKE-OFF LANDING

              PARKING

              PASSENGER SERVICE

              Security

              AERONAUTICAL ASSEMBLY
            2. gjv
              0
              27 September 2015 19: 42
              Quote: sabakina
              How much does it cost to service a flight like our plane ... Or what is flying there?

              Evening flight Aeroflot Moscow - Kiev. SuperJet fully loaded: 98 passengers, MTOW 41 tons. Departure after 10 hours.
              (10,5 * 41 * 1,24 * 65,67) + (10,5 * 41 * 65,67) + (0,41 * 41 * (10-3) * 65,67) + (17 * 98 * 65,67) + (4 * 98 * 65,67) + (7,56 * 41 * 73,14) = 228 873,62 rubles.
          4. +2
            27 September 2015 20: 43
            I wonder how many times you need to shoot in the leg, so that it would finally fall off? belay
        2. 0
          27 September 2015 11: 28
          To pronounce - will take retaliatory sanctions - means to emphasize a position, to show independence. "Mirror sanctions" - an expression of dependence. And not only from Ukraine.
          1. Nzn
            0
            27 September 2015 14: 50
            Asymmetric - sounds better :)
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    3. +10
      27 September 2015 08: 38
      The outskirts of the tombs are in a hurry to follow the instructions of their masters. It seems that everything is done to reduce the population. Chernozem needed and Ukrainians-no.
      1. +4
        27 September 2015 09: 46
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The outskirts of the graveyard are in a hurry to follow the instructions of their owners

        What can we say about Ukraine’s dependence on its masters, if the richest country in Europe, such as Germany, digs a hole for itself at the direction of all the same owners ...
        How long will the Europeans dance to the American tune? They have already completely lost their hearing and do not hear outright falsehood ...
      2. +4
        27 September 2015 10: 01
        I also have a feeling. I’m still wondering, but aren’t there people who understand that they are being stupidly killed? In the ATO, tens of thousands died. A few thousand or tens of thousands die a natural death. A million went to Russia. Half a million will remain here. I think that no less than tens of thousands should measure the number of people who have left for Europe. How many children were born or conceived during this time? At that, looking around, how many would risk taking children for such a life? It seems to me, units. At this rate, they will really die out there. There will be one place of work - this is a gas pipe and then, until 2019. I wonder how many people still agree to endure this d - mo?
        1. +1
          27 September 2015 14: 26
          Do not rush to such conclusions. You cannot become like our oracles from the Government. There, the Government gives their full forecasts in a short time, they run to change, they say that it didn’t happen so. Our Oracles have very little faith. They are constantly mistaken, and here they are clearly miscalculating. Something is their direct iron arguments that Default is supposed to be in Ukraine, but it's still gone. Watching through the box how some of that cohort are doing, we wonder. For some reason, everything is repeated as in a theater. It began to be a fashionable elite specialist on an expensive watch. The clock is probably an exact definition of a place in the cohort of managers. I personally do not care what is going on in Kiev. If you answer it is really clear. For some reason I have already lost faith in the ability of our authorities to truly respond to the insult of the country by others all the more dependent on us. How much water has leaked after 2008 08 and I still wait for the measures that the Government will take in relation to the Baltic countries. Toothless somehow more and more for small firms and for those large who really give the main income to the budget of these countries silence. Mol commerce. EU clearly and directly showed what commerce is. The power and sanctions that the EU authorities took against Russia. As our oracles didn’t crack, they say that this mistake will be fixed soon and everything is there. And they hit hard to hide. Our answer is weaker than their sanctions and inflated hype. And even better prices went down on products in Europe itself, and no one died from this. And with us everything is more complicated and prices have gone up. It turns out the opposite.
    4. +1
      27 September 2015 08: 39
      We respond with gas discounts and omyvaykami to repay loans ...
      Brothers, blya
      1. +2
        27 September 2015 08: 45
        We are waiting for a new show.
    5. +1
      27 September 2015 08: 39
      Right! "Mirror sanctions" - for Ukraine, this is probably just another discount on gas in mind! laughing
      1. +1
        27 September 2015 10: 27
        Quote: Finches
        Right! "Mirror sanctions" - for Ukraine, this is probably just another discount on gas in mind! laughing

        Silly comment. Ukraine is already half-corpses. With their sanctions, the blockade of Crimea and other similar actions, they (the Ukrainian authorities) make it worse only for themselves, or rather not for themselves, but for their country. Although, it seems to me, they deliberately harm "their" people and country, because they know that they are temporary workers, and at the right time they simply flee from Ukraine with the stolen billions to the west. I'm afraid to guess what will become of the "Square" by that time.
    6. +7
      27 September 2015 08: 55
      Well, there’s one loophole. Which companies will be banned? Usually, two companies with Ukrainian reggae fall under the distribution:
      Aerosvit - which is bankrupt and does not fly at all.
      UIA - which flies to St. Petersburg, Moscow and Kaliningrad. But the company, to put it mildly, is not very popular, because of prices and bestial service.

      The rest will be left, that is, foreign companies, there will be low-cost airlines.
      1. +1
        27 September 2015 12: 21
        That is, low-cost weapons are double-edged weapons?
    7. +2
      27 September 2015 08: 57
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And for some reason the people did not understand about the "otvetka" for gas and electricity.

      Maybe it's time to stop "urapatriotnichat" and turn on the brain? If we turn off gas and electricity, will it become easier for us? No! Because they will cut off everything in Crimea. And what will we do? Until we build Nord Stream 2 and the bridge to Crimea, we will have to concede.
      1. +13
        27 September 2015 09: 14
        What are you? What a hurray-patriotism! We all understand perfectly well that it is in our blood ... war ... And we will heat their NATO allies with gas ...! And then, in fact, in a different way, apparently, somehow it is not right, not Divinely ... And Christ said: "Who will hit you on your right cheek, turn to him and the other "(Matthew 5: 39) So you and those like you suggest: to answer evil not with evil, but with good. But let the Lord execute judgment and punishment? So what?
        Russia is a great state and is able to cope with the provision of the Crimea without Ukraine. True, Stalin to the last tried to delay the war so that the country could better prepare, today the matter is different, I think, just Mr. Miller and Co., in this case they will lose huge money - and this has nothing to do with our national interests! hi
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          1. +6
            27 September 2015 09: 31
            If you like to wipe yourself off, after spitting in your face - wipe yourself off! You don't need to juggle, especially think about it, because it turns out by your logic that Russia lives off gas? We are talking about the fact that an economic and information war has been unleashed against us, military units of a potential enemy are deployed on the borders, they throw mud at our past, desecrate monuments, burn and kill OUR people ... - we humbly conduct a dialogue, recognize the criminals and introduce no understandable "mirror sanctions" and, constantly, we make discounts and increase supplies!
            1. +1
              27 September 2015 09: 46
              Quote: Finches
              we dutifully conduct a dialogue, recognize criminals and introduce incomprehensible "mirror sanctions"!

              The mirror can be crooked. And now we live in such a "crooked looking glass". Therefore, our sanctions are some kind of curves (at least so it seems to many). When we get out of this "crooked looking glass", then we will understand the whole concept of these sanctions. I think so.
            2. 0
              27 September 2015 10: 38
              Quote: Finches
              Do not distort

              This is not for me. This is for Uncle Joe, for example .. laughing

              Quote: Finches
              it turns out by your logic that Russia lives on gas?

              At least 30% of the consolidated budget of the Russian Federation is oil and gas revenues. This is a lot ..

              Quote: Finches
              economic and information war unleashed against us

              Thank God, after 08.08.08 the right conclusions were made in this area. If you do not see countermeasures, this does not mean that they are not there.

              Quote: Finches
              probable enemy military units are deployed

              ... and the army of the Russian Federation does not crawl out of the ranges - you did not notice?

              Quote: Finches
              muddy our past, desecrate monuments, burn and kill our people

              Well, they themselves said-war ..

              Quote: Finches
              we humbly conduct a dialogue, recognize criminals and introduce incomprehensible "mirror sanctions"

              - dialogue - dialogue, and Ukraine should return 3 lard of greenery before the New Year ..
              - "We recognize .." - is it Poroshenko, or what? Duc he is the chosen one .. popularly, like .. how do you not recognize him?
              - "incomprehensible mirror sanctions" - incomprehensible to you? And what is there seemingly incomprehensible? You stepped on my foot, and I stepped on you .. and that's it ..

              Quote: Finches
              constantly, we make discounts and increase deliveries

              Bliiiiin .. for-dol-ba-lo .. a hundred times already chewed here, different people:
              - why do not stop deliveries
              - why "discounts" are made

              Here I will not explain anymore .. tired of sad
              1. 0
                27 September 2015 11: 37
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - dialogue - dialogue, and Ukraine should return 3 lard of greenery before the New Year ..

                Ahah, they should have returned a year ago, when their debts exceeded the critical minimum. But we are good-natured, instead of ensuring that the Nazis defaulted, we do gas discounts.
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Here I will not explain anymore .. tired of :(

                and what is there to explain, our top managers for the extra dollar and their mother will sell, not like the country.
                1. -2
                  27 September 2015 12: 22
                  Quote: trigger
                  and what is there to explain

                  Your lack of education .. is comparable only with your same bad manners (s)
                  1. 0
                    27 September 2015 12: 46
                    Psychic? Okay, I won’t offer you to answer in essence the thread, it’s obvious that you have 0 arguments.
                    1. -1
                      27 September 2015 13: 15
                      Quote: trigger
                      Psychic?

                      Nah .. just a good memory .. and you stood out yesterday, not on business.

                      Quote: trigger
                      it’s obvious that you have 0 arguments

                      Psychic? laughing

                      Quote: trigger
                      Okay, I won’t offer you

                      And I will offer you: walk .. Vasya Yes
              2. 0
                27 September 2015 16: 35
                You are probably paid extra from Gazprom - you so zealously defend the correctness of these decisions! laughing
                But, after all, this does not mean at all that these decisions are correct and were made proceeding solely from the state interests of Russia? The interests of Gazprom, Ukraine and the EU have been met. They may be doing well, but about Russia, I would not say that. I think that the economic indicators in Russia for the last year are not necessary, and you probably go to the store ... Your link to 30% of the budget is not wealthy, since it was the majority of the gentlemen at the helm of state corporations, back in the early 90s, who created such a situation for faster enrichment, though far from Russia ... As for the army, I am in it for more than 20 years and have some idea of ​​what happened and is happening in it! hi
        2. +1
          27 September 2015 18: 53
          Sorry than to answer. While there is nothing. I sometimes glance at what our Chinese friends are doing, I try to transfer them to us and I understand how clogged we are. A simple example. For the celebration of the New Year in a month, Zh.d. transport of 150 million passengers. And you can imagine this in Russia. I no longer believe the vigorous assurances of our railways. bosses that they can deal with such an influx. Everything will be exactly. By the way, there tariffs do not fly as we have stable. That's the whole difference. But our salaries are steeper. And the Beijing subway, by the way, transports so much in a day that we never dreamed of. Moreover, it is the largest in the world. It is sometimes necessary to compare how others live. And the vigorous prayers WE should be postponed for the longest time. And now everything is clear on gas how many have not been sold and the shareholders will receive theirs in any situation. It reminded me of America, remember Bankrupt Bank, but the shareholders got theirs. Such a system and our darling are equal to it.
        3. 0
          28 September 2015 16: 27
          Quote: Finches
          Russia is a great state and is able to cope with the provision of the Crimea without Ukraine.

          Patriotism and belief in the greatness of one’s country is good, but let me ask how it is possible to provide Crimea with gas, electricity and especially fresh water, bypassing Ukraine?
      2. +2
        27 September 2015 09: 53
        For homo
        Maybe it's time to stop "urapatriotnichat" and turn on the brain?

        Maybe it's time for you to turn on your brain and begin to distinguish "hurray-patriotism" from ordinary pressing problems. You and the same as you with this "hurray-patriotism" have already got to the handle. You use this phrase out of place and out of place. I would like to stand out from the "general mass" (as you think) - please. But just stop referring to what you yourself do not understand the meaning of. You can answer without the Internet, who and when was the first time to use this phrase?
      3. +2
        27 September 2015 10: 43
        Do you think that food blockade is all? Chubarov has already announced that the next stage is a power outage
        Chubarov: Power outage - the next stage of the blockade of Crimea
        23.09.2015 11:51
        Power outage is the next stage of the blockade of Crimea. The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Refat Chubarov announced this on the air of channel 112.
        “We do not exclude that in the second stages of the action the main thing will be to stop the supply of electricity, but I always say that it seems to me that this will be in October. Large lines of trucks remain at the Kalanchak and Chaplinka checkpoints, although about 40 vehicles from two lines turned around yesterday and drove to other cities in mainland Ukraine, ”Chubarov said.

        http://odnarodyna.org/content/chubarov-otklyuchenie-elektrichestva-sleduyushchiy
        -etap-blokady-kryma
        1. 0
          27 September 2015 10: 48
          Quote: pvv113
          Do you think that food blockade is all? Chubarov has already announced that the next stage is a power outage

          The anecdote about the elephant in the zoo reminds: "Oh, he is an ejist .. but who will give him .."

          Vangyu: as soon as the supply of electricity to the Crimea ceases, at least the supply of electricity from the Russian Federation to Ukraine will cease. Or maybe something else will stop ..

          So the stick, as always, is "two-edged".
    8. 0
      27 September 2015 13: 42
      Hi, it’s really interesting only when we agreed on gas, they began to say with might and main that they say they don’t take much. I am very surprised by the persistence of our authorities. They don’t want to take it, but they need to respond. We have strange trade relations. The seller begs for discounts, but I won’t. Yatsenyuk. And it wouldn’t be clear at all that they started talking about the people of Ukraine saying that it would be bad for them in the winter. That’s how our elite was bustling. The mud does not hesitate to tumble down and ours only wipe away. The EU sees this very well and is also trying to bite it wherever. The prime minister recently lamented how badly it was in Ukraine. And everything right here is wonderful and wonderful.
    9. 0
      27 September 2015 13: 52
      Self-castration! - a new national idea of ​​Ukraine. laughing
  2. +8
    27 September 2015 08: 34
    "The Russian Federation will respond to Kiev with" mirror sanctions "against airlines"
    S-400 in Transnistria. S-400 in Belarus. C-400 In the Crimea. And everything, without our permission, ukrov will not fly into the air.
    1. 0
      27 September 2015 10: 08
      Quote: Observer2014
      "The Russian Federation will respond to Kiev with" mirror sanctions "against airlines"
      S-400 in Transnistria. S-400 in Belarus. C-400 In the Crimea. And everything, without our permission, ukrov will not fly into the air.

      Yeah! That would be the answer! And so dreams, dreams where your sweetness is ...... smile
  3. +7
    27 September 2015 08: 35
    The next step ukrovladi will ban rail and road traffic? And Ukrainians will have to enter Russia through the territory of the DPR and LPR.
  4. 0
    27 September 2015 08: 36
    and I would generally close all flights through RUSSIA
  5. +4
    27 September 2015 08: 39
    It remains for the evil of RUSSIA to cut off gas and other energy supplies and there will be a complete re-entry of Svidomo !!!
  6. +5
    27 September 2015 08: 41
    The no-fly zone should be organized by Russian air defense over the entire territory of Ukraine. No aircraft should fly into the air. Stop liberalizing and lulling about cattle.
    1. +9
      27 September 2015 09: 50
      Quote: 1536
      The no-fly zone should be organized by Russian air defense over the entire territory of Ukraine. No aircraft should fly into the air. Stop liberalizing and lulling about cattle.

      They organized a no-fly zone for themselves, they say that the Russians shot down a Boeing, and that planes do not fly over Ukraine ..
      1. +2
        27 September 2015 12: 36
        Yeah, he killed Dantes, and the monument to Pushkin.
  7. +5
    27 September 2015 08: 44
    Russia will respond to Kiev "mirror sanctions"

    Will give a discount on gas, throw coal, etc. For its citizens, it will raise ticket prices, that's all mirror measures. It's already disgusting to listen to this slobbering.
  8. +1
    27 September 2015 08: 44
    I think it’s time to tell the allies, if Russia has such, about the ban on airspace in Central Asia for NATO and US aviation. This will be more effective than any mirror measures.
  9. -2
    27 September 2015 08: 47
    Quote: Abakan
    and I would generally close all flights through RUSSIA

    who put a minus ??? cyborgs or izrylites ???
    1. +8
      27 September 2015 09: 00
      Quote: Abakan
      Quote: Abakan
      and I would generally close all flights through RUSSIA

      who put a minus ??? cyborgs or izrylites ???

      Not otherwise conspiracy against you, dear. Hohlogidomasons minus lol
      1. +3
        27 September 2015 09: 06
        Quote: Abakan
        who put a minus ??? cyborgs or izrylites ???

        Enchanting writer ...

        UPD: The site replaces "idiot" with "idiot" ... and at the same time - skips belay
        If you just write "idiot" - the site will reset it to zero.

        Za-aba-a-avno .. laughing
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        2. 0
          27 September 2015 09: 27
          Quote: Cat Man Null


          UPD: The site replaces "idiot" with "idiot" ... and at the same time - skips belay
          If you just write "idiot" - the site will reset it to zero.

          Za-aba-a-avno .. laughing

          Thank you for the life hack. It is necessary to experience. smile
    2. 0
      27 September 2015 09: 55
      Quote: Abakan
      Quote: Abakan
      and I would generally close all flights through RUSSIA

      who put a minus ??? cyborgs or izrylites ???

      Those who understand that it just doesn't make sense to lose 300-400 lemons just for the air corridor, because of the 404 reckoning. It's just the realities of the economy (business), it doesn't matter. But just “drain” the profit? it is not specifically counter-sanctions in Europe.
  10. -5
    27 September 2015 08: 49
    The Kremlin never works ahead of the curve - only in response .. judokas are bad
    1. -1
      27 September 2015 09: 11
      Quote: Socialism 2.0
      The Kremlin never works ahead of the curve - only in response .. judokas are bad

      I wonder what relation your phrase has to this specific case with the ban on flights?

      Probably, it was necessary ahead of time to ban all flights from Ukraine to the Russian Federation .. laughing
      1. -2
        27 September 2015 09: 32
        my phrase is an opinion about the actions of the Kremlin. A red thread is the lack of initiative of his policy. Until they kick, no action.
        1. +1
          27 September 2015 10: 01
          For those on an armored train - again:

          what does your phrase have to do with this particular case

          Answer: none. Is it pure "your soul is boiling over, already unbearable"?

          Quote: Socialism 2.0
          this is an opinion about the actions of the Kremlin. A red thread is the lack of initiative of his policy

          Well, yes, well, yes .. with Syria - also "kicked"? There are all different BRICS .. Do not confuse restraint with lack of initiative, and hell with a finger ..

          PS: divorced politicians .. initiative .. wherever you spit - you get into politics .. or on the sofa laughing
          1. 0
            27 September 2015 14: 41
            For information, politicians are not here. They run around the boxes and with them a crowd of constant stompboxes of all kinds of political programs. They calmly take their souls there, not forgetting to kick us dear ordinary inhabitants.
        2. 0
          27 September 2015 10: 04
          Quote: Socialism 2.0
          Until they kick, no action.

          Kick, who? I’m very interested. And how many times have they kicked?
          How about "kopnyaki"? Garazdy? Or "here", is it outside the "penalty area"?
    2. 0
      27 September 2015 11: 09
      Yes you are a clone, my friend!
      Admin gentlemen, please check the IP of the Marxist and this! You will be greatly surprised: D
      1. +2
        27 September 2015 11: 16
        Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
        Gentlemen admins, please check

        Especially for this there is a button "Report violation of site rules" .. Your message goes directly to To the lord god admin ..
  11. +7
    27 September 2015 08: 52
    There are other versions of the reason for this decision by Yaytsenyuk:
    Upon learning that Petya was nearly drunk to Moscow on a civil flight, Senya banned all flights there, in order to avoid a relapse, otherwise he would dump as Yanyk and Senya would take offense for everyone.

    http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/09/24/smi-pyanogo-poroshenko-rvavshegosya-k-putin
    u-snyali-s-reysa-kievmoskva.html
    // legatus-pretor.livejournal.com
    NOTES FROM KUYAVIS
    Sensational news came just from the city of Kuyavisa!
    A certain German priestess who found herself in the lands of crazy ombre witnessed an amazing incident. A golden wagon drawn by four Umbrian boars drove up to the gallery in Kuyavis harbor, from which the bean-sweets merchant Porselanuks fell, who, by mistake, became the leader of the rebels last year.
    Porselanuks held in his hands a jug with an undiluted Falernian, loud voice singing a dreary song about the fact that some not too virtuous matron hadn’t died yet, and then got on board the galley and with a weaving tongue ordered the captain - “To Rome, to Caesar Augustus! I really need it! ”, Which caused general surprise - for it is known that if Porselanuks is in Rome, then they can hang him there, and it’s absolutely not necessary by the neck.
    Umbrian Praetorians quickly rushed to the gallery, discovering that the merchant Porselanuks was defeated by the combined spell of Dionysus and Morpheus. The leader who was sweetly snoring in his arms was carried off the ship, loaded into a gold wagon, and the riot police carried Porselanuks away in an unknown direction ...
  12. +2
    27 September 2015 09: 05
    Maybe it's time for us to declare dill FULL BLOCKADE!??
    ... and watch from the side how they choke and drown in the swamp of their own shit. fool
    1. +8
      27 September 2015 09: 30
      And who will do worse to anyone?
      1. gjv
        +1
        27 September 2015 18: 18
        A little about flying, to "defuse tension.
        Probably, the air traffic controller is one of the most tedious and stressful professions, but, as you can understand from these real dialogues between the pilots of the aircraft and the controllers, the burden of responsibility does not affect the sense of humor of the latter!

        1. Dispatcher: "" TWA 2341, rotate 45 degrees to the right to reduce noise. "
        TWA 2341: "" Center, we are at 35000 feet. What noise are we talking about? "
        Dispatcher: "" Sir, have you ever heard how noisy a 747 can be when it collides with a 727? "
        2. Unknown plane, waiting for permission to take off for a long time: "" How bored I am! "
        Ground movement control: "" Last transmitting, identify yourself immediately! "
        Unknown plane: "" I said I was bored, not that I was dumb! "
        3. DC-10 failed to properly brake during the landing, which was supposed to lead to longer movement on the runway.
        Dispatcher San Jose: "" Try a sharp right at the end of the runway if you can. If you don't, take Highway 101, turn right at the traffic lights and head back to the airport! "
        4. Pilot Pan Am 727, waiting for permission to take off in Munich, heard the following dialogue.
        Lufthansa (in German): "Earth, when are we cleared to take off, time?"
        Earth (in English): "" If you want to hear the answer, you must speak English. "
        Lufthansa (in English): "" I am German, I fly a German plane in Germany. Why should I speak English? "
        Unknown voice from another plane (with a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the damn war!"
        5. Dispatcher: "" Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, keep in touch on 124.7. "
        Eastern 702: "" Dispatcher, Eastern 702 is taking off. By the way, after taking off, we saw some kind of dead animal at the end of the runway. "
        Dispatcher: "" Continental 635, cleared after Eastern 702, in-flight communication on frequency 124.7. Did you receive a message from Eastern 702? "
        Continental 635: "" Continental 635 cleared for takeoff, Roger, and yes, we heard Eastern ... already notifying our caterers. "
      2. gjv
        +1
        27 September 2015 18: 18
        6. German air traffic controllers from Frankfurt Airport are known for their incontinence and harshness. It seems to them that all pilots should not only know the number of their exit, but also how to get to it without outside help. One day, a Pan Am 747 pilot heard the next dialogue between a Frankfurt dispatcher and a British Airways 747 pilot with the call Speedbird 206.
        Speedbird 206: "" Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 is leaving the runway. "
        Earth: "Move towards the Alpha 1-7 exit."
        Aircraft British Airways 747 leaves the main track and slows down.
        Earth: "" Speedbird, do you know where you are going? "
        Speedbird 206: "" Stay connected, Earth. I'm looking for our way out. "
        Land (with arrogant impatience): "" Speedbird 206, have you ever been to Frankfurt before? "
        Speedbird 206 (imperturbable): "" I was, twice in 1944, but it was dark and I didn't land. "
        7. While driving around London's Gatwick Airport, the US Air crew made a mistake and stumbled right into United 727.
        An angry female dispatcher started yelling at the crew: "US Air 2771, where the hell are you going? I told you to turn right onto Charlie Lane! You turned right onto Delta Lane! Stay there. I understand you have a hard time distinguishing C and D! "
        Continuing to shout at the embarrassed crew in an already hysterical voice: "" You ruined everything! I need eternity to fix this! Stay where you are and do not move until I tell you! Wait for instructions within half an hour. I want you to do this. how I say it and when I say it! Do you understand that, US Air 2771? "
        "Yes ma'am," the pilot replied humbly.
        After this conversation, absolute silence reigned on the air, no one wanted to fall under the hot hand of an angry dispatcher. The tension grew. And at that moment the unknown pilot broke the silence: "" I wasn’t married to you by chance? "
  13. +1
    27 September 2015 09: 07
    The Kiev rulers are trying their best to isolate their people from Russia, and Europe will not let the poor Ukrainians come to them. And they will remain deceived for a long time, but the government will be able to continue to profit further. The inhabitants of this territory do not like their power, but stubbornly want to help and trust it.
  14. +5
    27 September 2015 09: 07
    All actions should be consistent. Correctly people write. They cast off above us as they want, and we give them various gas preferences. Maybe we don’t understand what? Explain. Clearly, concisely, clearly. We do this because ... Otherwise, well, no matter how ... We are intelligent ...
    1. +1
      27 September 2015 09: 12
      just someone was taken for a fabirge. and this someone really does not want to upset their Western partners. now everything is "God's dew"
      1. 0
        27 September 2015 11: 11
        Quote: 2.0 Socialism
        just someone was taken for a fabirge. and this someone really does not want to upset their Western partners. now everything is "God's dew"

        Gena Zugenfeld?
  15. 0
    27 September 2015 09: 08
    Poroshenko extends to something. His and get it because of these sanctions.
  16. +9
    27 September 2015 09: 08
    Well, let's see what kind of mirror it will not be? Or how they will usually answer in a mirror, but for some reason it turns out that it is against my counter-sanction wallet.
  17. +4
    27 September 2015 09: 11
    Quote: Abakan
    and I would generally close all flights through RUSSIA

    How many Russians work in Ukraine-dozens (close to zero), how many guest workers from Ukraine work in the Russian north-hundreds of thousands. It is the "mirror" sanctions that are a complete ban on Ukrainian companies to make direct flights. Let them fly to Sofia or Ankara. Then they change the air carrier and fly to Moscow or Rostov. Well, and then on a Russian plane, for example, Khanty-Mansiysk. There is a direct flight from Ankara. Ho.Khly will say "thank you" to their government. good hi
  18. 0
    27 September 2015 09: 20
    Quote: rotmistr60
    If he answers here, the people will understand. And for some reason the people did not understand with the "otvetka" for gas and electricity. And, as it seems to me, he begins to understand less and less. Or is it just it seems? (Sorry for the casuistry).

    and they won’t understand anything, they were told by the western masters - they performed
    I finally can’t understand why these ghouls also make a discount on gas
  19. 0
    27 September 2015 09: 26
    They scared Parash, but with sanctions. He didn’t need tourists, but cannon fodder for revolutionary reforms. The Ukrainians didn’t fly anywhere. And let the fascist little relatives from Canada and Australia transport them.
  20. 0
    27 September 2015 09: 27
    Quote: Finches
    We will feed Ukraine even in the event of a full-scale war ... And their NATO allies will be heated with gas ...! But then, in another way, apparently, it’s somehow not right, not according to the Divine ..

    Come on !!

    And let's block it! Everyone and everything! Europe - figs of gas (and oil - too, to the heap), Ukraine - even more so !! No gas, no coal, no electricity, no solariums - they, bastards, they refuel her tanks ..

    And let us live! Honestly, divine .. only now ..

    ... and what will we eat? Oil and gas? Pensions than to pay? Solarium? Agree to that?

    IMHO hardly ..

    You need to think, and then write something. To begin with, remembering that losing (a job, a market, a trading partner) is easy. Finding is much harder.

    In the meantime, they haven’t found it - you will have oil and gas - for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. There will be a pension in liquid form (diesel fuel, yes .. not what everyone thought) ..

    Here is such a fun. Do you need it? To me - definitely not ..
    1. -2
      27 September 2015 09: 43
      I have already answered your little remark to you a little higher - where are you, for some reason deleted your comment!

      "If you like to wipe yourself off, after spitting in your face, wipe yourself off! ...."
      1. -1
        27 September 2015 10: 08
        Quote: Finches
        I have already answered your little remark to you a little higher - where are you, for some reason deleted your comment!

        I moved it feel

        Quote: Finches
        "If you like to wipe yourself off, after spitting in your face, wipe yourself off! ...."

        I do not like. And I do not do it.

        With Ukraine-EU-gas, etc. - the matter is a little more complicated than you think.

        We have already explained how it really is. Those who wanted to hear. You probably don't want to hear. so bring everything to the level of kindergarten - "take your toys .."

        Well, who studied what, as they say ..
        1. 0
          27 September 2015 16: 27
          Anything can be explained - including the sale of the Motherland for a pittance! And I studied at a military school and I don't think that you have the right to criticize the level of my education. If you are satisfied with the explanations of Miller and KO on this matter, then personally, the sponsoring of our potential enemy and the wretched republic - Ukraine, does not suit me, especially since Gazprom does not take money out of its own pocket, but from the state - mine and yours. the same!
          1. 0
            27 September 2015 17: 43
            Quote: Finches
            ...

            So. Last time, slowly, by division:

            - more than 30% of the budget of the Russian Federation is the proceeds from the sale of oil and gas
            - if you stop selling gas, for example - we’ll have two hemorrhoids at once: 1. lack of money in the budget 2. risk of losing the buyer, therefore
            - Gazprom will do its best to fulfill the contract for gas supplies to the EU
            - Ukraine is sideways .. the only trouble is the pipe, through which gas goes to the EU, passes through the territory of Ukraine. That allows her, for example, to stupidly gas this gas

            So far, everything seems to be simple, right?

            So here. As long as gas goes to the EU through Ukraine, there will be discounts and other goodies for Ukraine. Because there are no other options.

            As soon as Nord Stream 2 is built (and it will be built in a finite time) - Ukraine can forget about everything. And about discounts, and about gas too. A pipe can be sold for metal ..

            Uff .. and that's it. If I said something incomprehensibly - I can chew it again ..

            Quote: Finches
            Gazprom does not take money out of its own pocket, but from the state - mine and yours.

            Gazprom is not taking anything out of nowhere. Gazprom produces gas, sells it, and pays taxes. With these taxes the budget is filled. Why do I need a budget and why fill it - I think it’s understandable.
            1. -1
              27 September 2015 21: 34
              Everything is correct! Only your reasoning looks like the fact that, let my wife be fucked by a neighbor who gives my wife gifts - everything in the house is income, but at the same time, he constantly humiliates me and tells the whole house that he gives me "in the nose", and also does all sorts little nasty things ...! In principle - he does not harm me - I am strong and rich, only wise! I'm getting rich, and he just fucks my wife, this stuff in Russia in bulk!
              Very exaggerated - but ...
              Something like this!
              1. +1
                27 September 2015 23: 09
                Quote: Finches
                Only your reasoning resembles the fact that ...

                No offense - I don’t perceive it like that. And cockroaches - they have their own, and they must be protected, cared for and cherished.

                Quote: Finches
                Very exaggerated - but ...

                Yes not that word belay

                Quote: Finches
                Something like this!

                IMHO no

                hi
  21. +6
    27 September 2015 09: 30
    Yatsenyuk announced the decision of the Cabinet of Ministers (with the filing of the NSDC) to ban flights to Ukraine to two Russian companies - Aeroflot and Transaero
  22. 0
    27 September 2015 09: 41
    I agree with my comrades that gas discounts, forgiveness of provocations with Sberbank, the Russian Orthodox Church, etc. cannot be a mirror answer to all the atrocities of Ukraine. the answer must be very significant, without looking back at the "Ukrainian people" who do not have much love for the Russians !!!
  23. 0
    27 September 2015 10: 03
    Mirror sanctions, mirror sanctions. When the Kremlin orders it, they will forget that such words exist. And he will order, do not tell my slippers. DAM reasoned, Russia can close the sky for transit. :) The next day I received a hat.
    1. 0
      27 September 2015 10: 11
      Quote: Nasty
      Russia may close the sky for transit

      Can you imagine the consequences of such an action? Right? Or just said so?

      We type "International Air Lines Transit Agreement (IASTA)" in a search engine, we read, we are surprised ..

      Quote: Nasty
      DAM reasoned

      LADIES nerd, he is forgivable .. He moved the watch belts, and "poured into granite", if you remember wink
  24. 0
    27 September 2015 10: 55
    In general, you do not need to pay for their yapping. And the answer will be very loud.
  25. 0
    27 September 2015 11: 00
    What other Ukrainian airlines? It is necessary to prohibit the passage through our territory to all aircraft following transit through Ukraine.
  26. 0
    27 September 2015 11: 05
    What are you talking about? They will simply replace Russian companies with European ones and that’s all. People will still be transporting people, but not you. And this will be so. I don’t believe that Russia will close the transportation of Ukrainians to European companies.
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  28. 0
    27 September 2015 11: 19
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The outskirts of the tombs are in a hurry to follow the instructions of their masters.

    There is also such a version: the collapse of the Ruins can still take place, therefore a tie-eater was put on Odessa to get the Americans, so they crap Russia even to their own detriment. There is nothing to lose.
  29. +1
    27 September 2015 11: 34
    It looks like the Ukraine project is nearing completion. At this stage of the project, the tasks are being implemented "to screw up Russia, where possible, to the maximum for the remaining time." In another way, "frostbite of the ears to spite the grandmother" I can not explain.
  30. 0
    27 September 2015 14: 08
    Now the priestesses of love will travel to Moscow routes through London and Paris ....
  31. 0
    27 September 2015 14: 09
    Civil Aviation of Dill.
    Private jet Potroshenko.
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  33. +1
    27 September 2015 15: 22
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/014/xvjj614.jpg
  34. 0
    27 September 2015 16: 06
    And give discounts on flights for Bandera. After the story of gas discounts for the Nazis, I look forward to a cautious statement by our president at the UN. Will he not wag his tail in front of WestLom? Liberasts rule ...
  35. 0
    27 September 2015 17: 08
    It is interesting when the "great Ukrainians" will understand that any "competition" with Russia is painful for the "Great Dill", and not vice versa. It's just unpleasant for us, like a mandarin in a certain place. But nothing more.
  36. 0
    27 September 2015 18: 48
    What is the mirror response of these sanctions? They are wretched and will not notice, because they are poor as well. Now, if in full, all trade relations cease, then even the most stupid and Svidomo raguli (they are now 50% in Ukraine) will understand who they are barking at. On the other hand, other residents become hostages of the situation. Sad !!!!
  37. 0
    27 September 2015 19: 45
    Gentlemen, envy! Over Ukraine there will be the cleanest sky in the world !!!
  38. 0
    27 September 2015 21: 21
    Quote: Sterlya
    another ganofuda ukrorpov. know the LCD will lose more. yes see striped promised to compensate

    Someone will receive for this, and the people suck on a lollipop, which is already hard to break ...
  39. +1
    27 September 2015 21: 48
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    As soon as Nord Stream 2 is built (and it will be built in a finite time) - Ukraine can forget about everything. And about discounts, and about gas too. A pipe can be sold for metal ..

    Bravo Roman. I respect endurance and the ability to chew the same thing 20 times, so that the interlocutor finally understands.
    Practically word for word repeated what I already wrote, incl. and about the pipe.

    I can add Commander Roman (Cat Man Null) a couple of replicas.
    1. Do not think that we are already holding Europe by the balls. Our deliveries are about 30% of their consumption. There are many who want to take our place. Our competitors have a fairly decent fleet of gas carriers, they will build more, although Europe will probably have to buy a little more than ours. But if we LOSE this market, we won’t get it back, so we need to hold onto these contracts, hold our teeth because, as Roman said, almost 30% of the Russian budget is oil and gas. We’ll lose - the budget will decrease, and this is not only a social program - it’s also rearmament programs.
    2. We are forced to go on to give Ukraine discounts, roll over payments. Only because the Ukrainian side fulfilled at least its transit obligations. Yes, this is blackmail on her part, but the consumer doesn’t care about the EU. He pays for a certain amount of gas, and at the exit from Ukraine to the EU, the amount of this gas is less than they should receive per day. And by and large, they don’t give a damn about why this is happening and don’t give a damn that Russia sends the right amount of gas from its territory. The output is less. So that the transit doesn’t rush around, they give him discounts, and the extension of payments and everything else. Otherwise, we will pay the penalty already to the consumer.

    And the commissioning of Nord Stream 2 will put an end to this theft and in Ukraine in general. No wonder Poroshenko is already howling loudly, accusing Russia that Ukraine will lose $ 3 billion due to Russia's refusal from Ukrainian transit. And he demands “to ban the construction of SP-2.” But it will be, but for now we have to play by these rules.

    As for the ban on flights of our planes - well, it won't make us worse, and they lose at least a quarter of a million from one flight. Let it go. "Mirror sanctions" - we will ban two of their companies. All this will again cause a wave of discontent. so everything is very simple and transparent, and the main thing is precisely verified. We are not the initiators ...
  40. 0
    27 September 2015 22: 03
    they are directly a paradise of air transportation (clickable)
  41. Erg
    0
    27 September 2015 23: 01
    The Ukraine project is coming to an end. The next step of the Powder is taken in the right direction. Sometimes I get the impression that he works for us ...
  42. 0
    28 September 2015 00: 03
    SkakunAvia does not fly through the territory of the Russian Federation to Japan, Korea, China, Asian countries ???
    So what is the argument, colleagues?
    A very real POTENTIAL pressure lever,
    There would be a will ...