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An experienced MiG-35 for the Russian Air Force will be built next year

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In the MiG corporation, within the framework of the ROC, the construction of a MiG-35 light multipurpose fighter aircraft has been started. MIC with reference to Interfax-AVN.




“The first prototype of the MiG-35 fighter for the Russian Air Force is planned to be produced in the first half of next year,” a source in the aviation industry told the agency.

He announced that, in accordance with the contract, an 2 experienced MiG will be built. “And for the first time in many years, experienced aircraft will be made entirely at the expense of budget funds, and not for the corporation’s money, as it was before,” the source said.

“The MiG-35 multi-role fighter belongs to the“ 4 ++ ”generation. This aircraft can be considered as a transitional link between the fourth and fifth generations, ”he said.

According to him, “the newest optical-radar station with infrared, television and laser sighting equipment, created using space technologies, is installed on the MiG-35; the radar provides detection, tracking, recognition and trapping of air and ground / surface targets in the front and rear hemispheres day and night". New helmet-mounted target designation and aiming system, as well as an optical-location station integrated into the control system weapons.

“The MiG-35 weapons are introducing promising aviation weapons of destruction that are not offered for export. Among them, long-range weapons that allow attacking targets without entering the enemy’s air defense zone. The MiG-35 is equipped with a modern defense system, which minimizes the possibility of a sudden attack by a fighter. This complex allows you to recognize both aircraft and flying missiles, ”the source said.

“The power plant consists of two X-Rum 33MK engines, 5,4 tons of tonnage (9 tons at the boost), equipped with a smokeless combustion chamber and a new electronic control system with full responsibility of the FADEC type,” he said and added that “the cost of the flight hour is MiG-35 almost 2,5 times lower than the MiG-29 ".
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  1. Irokez
    Irokez 26 September 2015 10: 58
    +42
    Words alone. Well, when he will be in service. I’ve heard about this new machine of the great design bureau for about five years, but everything is still under development.
    Come MIG do not lose your image and go.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 September 2015 11: 05
      +16
      Quote: Irokez
      Words alone. Well, when he will be in service. I’ve heard about this new machine of the great design bureau for about five years, but everything is still under development.
      Come MIG do not lose your image and go.

      They do not lose their image .. Will be issued soon! "Mom don't cry" I hope .. hi
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 26 September 2015 11: 09
        +1
        And yet this is another modernization of the terribly ancient twenty-ninth. And I would like a brand new aircraft.
        1. tomket
          tomket 26 September 2015 11: 19
          +62
          Quote: Basarev
          And yet this is another modernization of the terribly ancient twenty-ninth. And I would like a brand new aircraft.

          Let's be fair though. The MiG-35 is comparable to the Su-35 in terms of modernization. And to spread rot MiG while admiring the Su-35 is somehow not fair. The Su-35 is a modernization of the no less "ancient" Su-27. As for something new from the MiG, 1.42 -1.44 is quite new. It is not the fault of the MiG that it was openly spread rot for a long time, depriving it of funding and openly sabotaging exports (remember, for example, the "strong-willed" decision of the government to ban the supply of MiGs to Iran). In such a situation, there is no time for new products.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 26 September 2015 11: 56
            +9
            I do not agree on = new with Su-35:
            Engine - Marine Wasp = there is nothing new, this is the same engine that is on a boat for Indians. ATS no. Profitability Soviet. Unlike the Su-35, which has everything and even seems to be an afterburner M +, it was confirmed in tests.

            Radar - at 85% there will be a slotted Zhuk-M which is 20 + years old at lunchtime, on a new elementary base, which made it possible to reduce its weight and facilitate maintenance. The rest is on the AFAR, but there is BUT! The Beetle-A did not receive the letter and its release did not even get better (well, as with the Indians they flew the topic and abandoned). At Su-35 radar more or less + a larger compartment makes it possible to upgrade.

            Avionics +/- yes.

            Glider - Su-35 made a lot of it; the MiG mainly has adaptations, necessary improvements and an increase in% of composites.
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 26 September 2015 12: 20
              +6
              Tight something with the MiG-35, I have long wanted to see him in service sad ! I remember in 2009 they said that he would be in the army in 2013, in 2013 they said that in 2016. I hope at least this time will not be postponed negative !
            2. dyksi
              dyksi 26 September 2015 15: 41
              +40
              Where is it in the MiG-29K and MiG-29M / M2 Soviet efficiency, it is just very good, it is in no way inferior to Sushki. At the moment, the RD-33MK is being finalized, so that the combat radius of the MiG-35 will be within 1200 km, like the Su-30. Next time, when you find fault with MiG avionics, take a look at Sushki and you will see that much has been created there on the basis of MiG developments, Sukikh simply had no experience in creating fighters, especially in terms of avionics. When creating phased arrays, MiG developments were taken as a basis, the same good old "Zaslon", you can not talk about a multi-channel OLS at all. Yes, and the very ideology of an air fighter was taken from the MiG Design Bureau, which simply has colossal experience in this regard. The MiG-35 is only outwardly similar to the MiG-29, but the machine is completely new, it has no equal in cost-efficiency, and at the same time it is two-three times cheaper than Sushki, which is why it will be produced, according to flight data it is superior to Sushki, the Air Force Commander said that the car will go into the niche of super-maneuverable fighters, since it is three times cheaper than the Su-35. At our top, they began to realize that the main fighter based on a heavy machine is not a good idea (the United States realized this back in the 60s of the last century). The MiG-35 has a multi-channel OLS, good engines, an oxygen production station, OLSs are smeared along the center section, an excellent PRNK and an excellent interface, in terms of strength characteristics it surpasses both Sushki and Western fighters. This is the fastest-to-climb fighter, it has an advantage in combat turns and in lateral speeds, as a fighter it is the strongest, this is our only car that did not recover during modernization. Sergei Korotkov wants to put a gene. the designer of the UAC precisely because the MiGs managed without state. funding to create such good cars, while Poghosyan literally took off his last pants from the country.
              1. viktorR
                viktorR 26 September 2015 16: 58
                -4
                The MiG-35 has a multi-channel OLS, OSSs are spread across the center section, an excellent PrNK and an excellent interface

                Yes, only the problem is that 5 years ago I watched a video from an interview on the Pilot's blog, the very chief designer of this OLS, and so he was proud, among other things, that the system was built on a platform of 4 Intel processors, his mother, pentiuim 4. Since the project was for the Indians, it somehow suppressed the shame for the MiG in itself, but now how can this IBM compatible part be replaced without real improvements? I’ll keep quiet about the fact that it’s a shame to make military equipment using foreign civilian components. Here is the level of the MiG for you ...
                , in strength characteristics, it surpasses both Sushki and Western fighters.

                Yah? Confirm this, bye, unfounded statement?
                good engines

                Good, but only without OVT and smoke even with a "smokeless" combustion chamber.

                In short, my advice to you, you tie with this sect Pogosyano-haters. If MiG had not seized its place, Sukhoi would not have taken it.
                1. tomket
                  tomket 26 September 2015 18: 03
                  +9
                  Quote: viktorR
                  If MiG had not seized its place, Sukhoi would not have taken it.

                  Well, actually, we have many examples when a promising technique was openly pushed under far-fetched pretexts. For example, the "confrontation" between the MiG-1.42 and the C-37. The first had prospects, the second frankly had no prospects in any form. However, thanks to Poghosyan, funding began to drift towards Sukhoi. The story of the Ka-50,52 is also more than indicative. In general, the Alligator appeared rather in spite of than thanks to the support of the country's leadership. as a curiosity, one can recall the "wise" opinion of one of the generals, an adherent of the Mil design bureau, that the Ka-50,52 is futile due to the lack of a compartment for the flight mechanic and for the evacuation of the downed crew. Hence the conclusions. Not everything depends on the technique.
                  1. viktorR
                    viktorR 26 September 2015 19: 22
                    +1
                    That is, Intelpentiums in OLS are "Advanced Technology"?

                    Here, in my opinion, one of the designers of the same OLS talks about pentiums (I can’t see, the Crimean IP is probably taking NTV for Ukrainian):
                    http://www.ntv.ru/peredacha/smotr/m2220/o61730/comments/
                    1. dvina71
                      dvina71 26 September 2015 23: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: viktorR
                      Here, in my opinion, one of the designers of the same OLS talks about pentiums (I can’t see, the Crimean IP is probably taking NTV for Ukrainian):


                      Yes, this is generally nonsense. There will be no pentium or AI7 or any other UNIVERSAL processor in military equipment. Precisely because it is a UNIVERSAL processor. And it pays for this with increased heat dissipation and has not very good characteristics for performing narrow tasks.
                  2. max702
                    max702 28 September 2015 18: 46
                    0
                    Quote: tomket
                    The story of the Ka-50,52 is also more than indicative. In general, the Alligator appeared rather in spite of than thanks to the support of the country's leadership. as a curiosity, one can recall the "wise" opinion of one of the generals, an adherent of the Mil design bureau, that the Ka-50,52 is futile due to the lack of a compartment for the flight mechanic and for the evacuation of the downed crew. Hence the conclusions. Not everything depends on the technique.

                    So it is, but here's an example you gave not quite the same, the fact is that the lobby resource of the Mil Design Bureau exceeded that of the Kamov Design Bureau by strands, but in aviation, just the opposite, the MiG Design Bureau was just the first and the rest of Sukhim had to literally gnaw through yourself a place in the sun, proving your superiority, see for yourself the last successful aircraft is the MIG-31, the MIG-27 is equal in efficiency to the SU-17 and at a price it overtook it fairly, they did not create an attack aircraft (this is not a royal thing ..), but in a pair MIG-29 and SU-27 life itself put everything in its place, MIG was handed out to everyone and most of the Sushki kept for themselves .. And in real MIG DBs, MIG got rid of DRY due to its innate defects (small flight radius) So we must state at the time of collapse The USSR KB MIG sharply degraded being in "dizziness with success" and hoping for a lobist resource, about MIG-1.44 this is generally nothing more than an exhibition sample (further cutting of the theme of the 31st). Let me tell you frankly that in spite of everything that Sukhoi's planes were adopted, it strengthens my belief that not everything is lost in the country, and some people are still offended for the state!
                    rs: And on KB helicopters, Mila walks with confident steps by KB Mig, and the fact that the still-born MI-28 was pushed into a pair to the KA-52 perfectly confirms this ..
                2. Zheka40
                  Zheka40 26 September 2015 20: 52
                  -1
                  Look closely about OBT
                  1. viktorR
                    viktorR 26 September 2015 22: 31
                    +1
                    Where to look?
                    So far, Mig-35 does not have OBT. There is a RD-33MK.
                    It was stated that it is possible to use the RD-33MKV modification with a deflected thrust vector, tested on an experimental MiG-29M OVT. And that’s all ...
                3. Shuttle
                  Shuttle 29 September 2015 09: 58
                  0
                  Quote: viktorR
                  ... an interview, of the very chief designer of this OLS, and so he was proud, among other things, that the system is built on a platform of Intel 4 processors, his mother, Pentium 4 ...

                  As an IT employee, an IT employee, i.e. in secret. This is just generally easy!
                  There is Taiwanese (read - Chinese) VIA Technologies with its C7 and all other "fiction" to it. So we will not be left without x86 stones.
                  And besides, these very CPUs are so small and are sold in such quantities not only around the world, but also in Russia, that it is not serious to rely on their shortage.
                  1. viktorR
                    viktorR 29 September 2015 12: 20
                    0
                    It's not a shortage, but architecture. We have our own x86.
              2. Maxwrx
                Maxwrx 27 September 2015 00: 00
                +4
                Who spat it ??? like competent people are sitting on the forum ... people are lying frankly. from what everyone knows:
                Quote: dyksi
                the combat radius of the MiG-35 will be within 1200 km., like the Su-30

                at su 30 the radius is almost 2 times larger !!!
                Quote: dyksi
                while two to three times cheaper than Sushki

                at the old prices, 45-50 million and 65-70 million for the su-35, even the old 29 for 30-35 million
                Quote: dyksi
                this is our only car that has not recovered during modernization.

                18 tons were, it became 23 tons
              3. Hammer
                Hammer 27 September 2015 19: 54
                +1
                With the MiG phrase three times cheaper, you have completely exposed all your ignorance. And yes, soo is better than instant in everything.
              4. max702
                max702 28 September 2015 18: 26
                0
                Quote: dyksi
                in terms of cost and effectiveness, it has no equal and at the same time is two to three times cheaper than Sushki, which is why it will be produced, according to flight data it is superior to Sushki, the Air Force Commander-in-Chief said that the machine will go into the niche of super-maneuverable fighters, since it is three times cheaper than Su -35. At the top, we began to realize that the main fighter based on a heavy machine is not a good idea (the United States realized this back in the 60s of the last century). The MiG-35 has a multi-channel OLS, good engines, an oxygen production station, OLSs are spread across the center section, an excellent PrNK and an excellent interface, it surpasses both Sushki and Western fighters in strength characteristics. This is the fastest-growing fighter, it has an advantage in combat turns and in lateral speeds, as it is the strongest fighter, it is our only machine that has not recovered during modernization.

                Alas, all that you have written so far on paper, and nowhere in the COMPLEX it is not confirmed, while these are good promises, how big will be the real question, especially it delivered about the price three times (promising does not mean getting married) even though it was commander-in-chief recently says a lot of things (PAK FA In 2017 in the army). And CB MIG will promise anything now! Just to get financing! I do not mind MIG will be real competitors Sukhoma perfectly! But it’s too early to talk about the prodigy of the MIG-35 ..
              5. aleks 62 next
                aleks 62 next 29 September 2015 09: 14
                +1
                .... in no way inferior to Sushki ....

                1 .... Here I am about the same .... But is it necessary in the century of rejected thrust vectors and other tricks that elevate the concept of maneuverability to a new qualitative level to make another type of aircraft, which in general will repeat the existing types? ??? ....

                2 .... in terms of cost-effectiveness it has no equal and at the same time two to three times cheaper than Sushki, ...

                ... Well, well .... For 80% of the cost of the aircraft determines its filling ... What is it ???? .... Absolutely without avionics and other gadgets ???? ....

                3 ..... in terms of strength characteristics, it surpasses Drying ...

                .... Well, this is quite a discovery !!!! :))))) .... Strength standards are GOST .... For maneuverable aircraft they are the same as for Su, for MIG ....
              6. BLACK-SHARK-64
                BLACK-SHARK-64 29 September 2015 12: 08
                0
                Very explanatory and concise .. The car is really top class. !!! bully
          2. Oleg14774
            Oleg14774 26 September 2015 15: 42
            +2
            Quote: tomket
            In such a situation, it’s not something new.

            Thanks also to the guys from MiG and a deep bow that they not only saved, but also created (let's be honest) a plane superior to the F35.
          3. the polar
            the polar 26 September 2015 18: 35
            +5
            Quote: Basarev
            And yet this is another modernization of the terribly ancient twenty-ninth. And I would like a brand new aircraft.

            In the cost of a modern aircraft, up to 70% is accounted for by electronic control-control-tracking-tracking-counter-guidance systems. The cost of engines is 20 percent, and the rest is a glider.
            So if there is a complete change of electronic systems, then at the exit we get a completely new aircraft, which can only be conditionally called modernized. If we change engines for a new generation of engines, then this is a deep modernization, and if we improve the airframe design, then this is just a "planned modernization.
        2. 0255
          0255 26 September 2015 11: 29
          +5
          Quote: Basarev
          And yet this is another modernization of the terribly ancient twenty-ninth. And I would like a brand new aircraft.

          The Americans are also modernizing their F-15 / 16 / 18, all the same the F-35 will not be finished.
          1. tomket
            tomket 26 September 2015 11: 40
            +4
            Quote: 0255
            The Americans are also modernizing their F-15 / 16 / 18, all the same the F-35 will not be finished.

            Fight then the same will need to)))))). Probably the 4 generation aircraft in their appearance are close to the perfection of the aircraft, which can be achieved on the basis of existing materials and technologies. Then some chimeras on like f-35 are already obtained.
          2. supertiger21
            supertiger21 26 September 2015 12: 26
            +3
            Great Konstantin! hi

            Quote: 0255
            The Americans are also modernizing their F-15/16/18,


            This is yes! Upgraded F-15E Strike Eagle, F-16C Block 50/52, F / A-18 Super Hornet successfully cope with many tasks of modern multirole fighters.

            Quote: 0255
            all the same, the F-35 will not finish.


            Yes, but they have long had another 5th generation fighter - the F-22.
            1. Vladimir 23rus
              Vladimir 23rus 26 September 2015 14: 29
              +7
              Yes, but they have long had another 5th generation fighter - the F-22
              The F-22 is a heavy fighter, and the F-35 is light / medium. As in principle, our Su-35 is heavy, and the Mig-35 should occupy a light / medium niche. This bias towards heavy fighters in our Air Force has already been discussed on the website more than once.
              1. supertiger21
                supertiger21 26 September 2015 17: 15
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir 23rus
                The F-22 is a heavy fighter, and the F-35 is light / medium. As in principle, our Su-35 is heavy, and the Mig-35 should occupy a light / medium niche.


                I am aware, I just didn’t talk about it. And about the fact that they have 5th generation fighters in service since 2005.

                Quote: Vladimir 23rus
                This bias towards heavy fighters in our Air Force has already been discussed on the website more than once.


                I agree! Poghosyan with his excessive monopoly on Sushki almost turned our Air Force into a soup ... belay
              2. max702
                max702 28 September 2015 19: 11
                0
                Quote: Vladimir 23rus
                The F-22 is a heavy fighter, and the F-35 is light / medium. As in principle, our Su-35 is heavy, and the Mig-35 should occupy a light / medium niche. This bias towards heavy fighters in our Air Force has already been discussed on the website more than once.

                Maybe everything is easier and the F-22 is too expensive? And besides, he doesn’t have impact capabilities, yet this is a machine for gaining superiority in the air, and in the near future there aren’t a lot of such tasks in real conflicts (that's enough), that’s sawing the f-35 like a clean drummer spitting on the fighter part, about the heavy / medium / light now it is nothing more than a convention! What is the difference between them? In weight, the difference is 15-20%, at a cost of 10-15% (by the way, we calculated the cost of operating the MG-29 and found out that it goes EXPENSIVE throughout the cycle than SU-27), and if you look at the haemorrhoids with maintenance, training, and dubious combat effectiveness, why all these moans?
            2. VP
              VP 26 September 2015 17: 38
              0
              But didn’t they take him out of production?
        3. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 26 September 2015 15: 40
          +3
          Quote: Basarev
          modernization of the creepy ancient twenty-ninth. And I would like a brand new aircraft.

          The glider there is so successful that there is nowhere to modernize it further, and in general it is not necessary, it's still a close fighter, and the electronics and engines will undergo changes. Why buy a new Meren that breaks if there is an old millionaire.
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    2. War and Peace
      War and Peace 26 September 2015 11: 48
      +2
      Irokez (2) RU Today, 10:58

      Words alone. Well, when he will be in service. I’ve heard about this new machine of the great design bureau for about five years, but everything is still under development.


      it’s not a matter of design bureau, it’s a matter of hat, in short, those who make the decision do not want a MIG, the t80 was good, but it was covered up, and so ...

      Beetle Afarovsky at least brought the mind? like because of this, everything was on the brakes ...
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    4. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 26 September 2015 13: 56
      0
      Americans have been developing the same technique for decades.
    5. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 26 September 2015 13: 56
      0
      Americans have been developing the same technique for decades.
    6. VP
      VP 26 September 2015 17: 23
      +1
      The reason is financing. Now it has gone.
    7. the polar
      the polar 26 September 2015 18: 22
      +6
      Quote: Irokez
      Words alone. Well, when he will be in service. I’ve heard about this new machine of the great design bureau for about five years, but everything is still under development.
      Come MIG do not lose your image and go.

      The problem is that the money needed for the construction of the MiG-35 was taken under the sofas by the governors and ministers. Two governors got a billion from under the sofas, and it is still unknown if they can return everything "earned by back-breaking labor". And there are under 90 such governors, then five hundred mayors, then at least ministers, and finally at least a thousand deputies. And all of them bitch children sleep on sofas
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 27 September 2015 00: 35
        +2
        Every year, governors should be searched. You look, and we can handle the crisis, and by 2020 we will master all the planned defense programs. yes
      2. ty60
        ty60 28 September 2015 19: 58
        0
        Governors and mayors, deputies and ranks! These are thieves of different measures, but of great magnitude! The people’s feet will feel cold, they won’t eat and don’t give in! And they have full houses, incense and grace !!
    8. Civil
      Civil 27 September 2015 00: 08
      0
      It makes no sense, ALL funds should be directed to single-engine 5 generations or UAVs
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 27 September 2015 00: 41
        0
        For starters, it would be worth investing in engines properly. Here's how to get real promising samples, then we can talk about single-engine 5 generations.
  2. Bigship
    Bigship 26 September 2015 10: 58
    +1
    Yes, really wait, finally !!!
    1. tomket
      tomket 26 September 2015 11: 02
      +4
      Quote: BigShip
      Yes, really wait, finally !!!

      You won’t believe it, but the MiG-35 has long been built in the MiG-29K variant for a long time. Remove the landing hook and wing folding mechanisms, and here is the MiG-35!
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 26 September 2015 11: 11
        +3
        Quote: tomket
        You won’t believe it, but the MiG-35 has long been built in the MiG-29K variant for a long time. Remove the landing hook and wing folding mechanisms, and here is the MiG-35!


        I have not tracked statistics on the MiG-29K, but it seems that your statement "is being built regularly" looks a little overly optimistic.

        How many "deck" MiGs are needed for the Russian Navy? Well, okay, let's "add" more Indians here ...

        Anyway, the figure is not impressive.

        And the plane should be a massive, real front-line fighter, like its legendary ancestor, the "soldier plane" MiG-21 ...
        1. tomket
          tomket 26 September 2015 11: 23
          +8
          Quote: BDRM 667
          Anyway, the figure is not impressive.

          And the plane should be a massive, real front-line fighter, like its legendary ancestor, the "soldier plane" MiG-21 ...

          For me, so any figure for the supply of aircraft to our Air Force is not impressive. Su-35 -48 pcs? Now I will die from an overabundance of feelings. Nevertheless, deliveries to the MiG-29k fleet are better than nothing.
      2. figwam
        figwam 26 September 2015 11: 18
        +1
        You won’t believe it, but the MiG-35 has long been built in the MiG-29K variant for a long time.

        There are too many differences between them, as well as between SU-33 and SU-27.
        1. tomket
          tomket 26 September 2015 11: 21
          -2
          Quote: figvam
          There are too many differences between them, as well as between SU-33 and SU-27.

          In addition to ship equipment, no. Because it is so easy to remake one into another.
          1. figwam
            figwam 26 September 2015 11: 38
            +1
            The ship version is experiencing greater loads in a more aggressive environment, so the design of the airframe, chassis racks are reinforced or changed, while they have different engines, radars, etc. As a result, we get different planes with different performance characteristics, respectively, another assembly line at the manufacturer.
            1. tomket
              tomket 26 September 2015 12: 05
              +3
              Quote: figvam
              therefore, the design of the airframe, chassis racks reinforced or changed, while they have different engines, radars, etc.

              What are the different engines and radars? Can I get more details? In principle, you can disassemble the MiG-29K and MiG-35 "by the bones" and try to find 10 differences.
            2. tomket
              tomket 26 September 2015 12: 17
              +4
              Quote: tomket
              at the same time they have different engines, radars, etc.

              The engines are both on the MiG-29K and on the MiG-35 RD-33MK. Radar "Zhuk-M". On the Indian K "Zhuk-ME". What different assembly lines are you talking about?
              The MiG-35 is structurally and line-up identical to the MiG-29K. Differences: instead of a hook, a new brake parachute is installed. dismantled wing folding mechanisms. EVERYTHING!
              1. figwam
                figwam 26 September 2015 13: 03
                +2
                MIG-29K is a 4+ generation device, MIG-35 is 4 ++
                accordingly, the latter will put more and more modern equipment close to the 5th generation, the top photo for the MIG-35 beetle

                1. donavi49
                  donavi49 26 September 2015 13: 24
                  +1
                  Beetle-AE export prototype and then prototype for India. After closing the tender - the topic is closed. Produced - 1 flight prototype, several prototypes and samples for surface mining. Beetle-AE will definitely not.

                  Beetle-A is possible, but there are several but:
                  - there are primitive blocks, Fazatron on other topics has already seriously advanced in blocks, and today for him it will be a step if not two back. That is, if you assemble a new radar on those blocks, in the dimensions of the Beetle - the characteristics will grow significantly.
                  - Beetle-A did not pass any tests, it does not have a letter.
                  - For Zhuk-A production is not prepared.
            3. donavi49
              donavi49 26 September 2015 12: 20
              +1
              The engine for the MiG-29M / M2 = Sea Wasp, for the MiG-29K / KUB - The Sea Wasp, for the MiG-35 for the Air Force from the article = Sea Wasp.

              The radar on the Indian K / KUB is Zhuk-M, on the Russian Navy - Zhuk-M, on the MiG-29M / M2 - Zhuk-M. What will put the question on the MiG-35 for the Air Force, because Zhuk-A does not have a letter, and serial production for it was not prepared after leaving the tender. Moreover, the developer has long gone into a slightly different topic. If we say AFAR, it would be more reasonable to assemble a new radar on new blocks - simply because the Phazatron has already made significant progress in the characteristics of the blocks and putting Zhuk-A in the Hindu version is a rather big step back.
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            5. gjv
              gjv 26 September 2015 12: 41
              +1
              Quote: figvam
              respectively another assembly line at the factory.

              Quote: Irokez
              but everything is still under development.

              Not development, but going. Here he is in the assembly shop.

              But the assembly of the shipborne MiG-29K for India and the MiG-29KR for Russia. They stand on hydraulic rams or already on landing gear racks on the workshop floor. No special assembly lines. Prefabricated scaffolding and sliding ladders. The main thing is not to get confused in the drawings, to correctly figure out which parts, components on which aircraft to submit for assembly. And the anti-corrosion protection of airframe parts on the MiG-35 is similar to that of the MiG-29K.

            6. Reducer
              Reducer 29 September 2015 06: 15
              0
              Assembly line?!?!?
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 26 September 2015 12: 17
          +6
          I will surprise you, but the whole MiG-29M-MiG-29K system, and the MiG-29М2 = MiG-29KUB = was thought of under 90% + unification. Everything about them according to glider, avionics, and the nomenclature of weapons is identical. This is a chip.

          Moreover, this MiG-35 is the leading Syrian MiG-29М2. And the MiG-35D is an old factory MiG-29M number 154.

          Su-33 is completely different, in avionics, in glider, and even in the range of weapons. Unlike Su-27.
          1. tomket
            tomket 26 September 2015 12: 24
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            I will surprise you, but the whole MiG-29M-MiG-29K system, and the MiG-29М2 = MiG-29KUB = was thought of under 90% + unification. Everything about them according to glider, avionics, and the nomenclature of weapons is identical. This is a chip.

            What am I talking about ....
      3. War and Peace
        War and Peace 26 September 2015 11: 51
        +1
        Quote: tomket
        Quote: BigShip
        Yes, really wait, finally !!!

        You won’t believe it, but the MiG-35 has long been built in the MiG-29K variant for a long time. Remove the landing hook and wing folding mechanisms, and here is the MiG-35!


        on the contrary, the boat appeared first, then 35tk ...
        1. tomket
          tomket 26 September 2015 11: 55
          +2
          Quote: War and Peace
          on the contrary, the boat appeared first, then 35tk ...

          So I'm talking about the same thing. The work was initiated by the signing of a contract to create an air group for the former "Gorshkov" sailing to India. And the MiG-35 is nothing more than an attempt to register the land-based version of the MiG-29k in the Air Force. It should be noted here that the OKB began to abuse it with renaming essentially the same aircraft family, which actually caused confusion.
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  3. gas113
    gas113 26 September 2015 10: 58
    +1
    MIG is good. It would be only massive and high quality.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 26 September 2015 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: gas113
      MIG is good. It would be only massive and high quality.

      I fully support.
  4. oberon 1
    oberon 1 26 September 2015 10: 59
    +2
    Once Mig was the main company in our fighter air force
    1. YGV-97219
      YGV-97219 26 September 2015 11: 05
      +2
      Let's hope that it becomes equal to Sukhoi! I really want this!
  5. Tor5
    Tor5 26 September 2015 11: 00
    0
    Good news! If it goes into production, then, before the appearance of the "five", it is quite a worthy car
  6. tomket
    tomket 26 September 2015 11: 00
    +6
    Every year, the MiG-35 is built from the MiG-29K and vice versa. Then they redo it back to the MiG-29K. Already fed up with this soap opera with the MiG-35.
  7. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 26 September 2015 11: 01
    -2
    They are mocking, they can’t finish an airplane based on Mig29, and the truth is a crisis in the industry. Americans will bring F35 to mind faster than our Mig35 (Mig29).
    1. tomket
      tomket 26 September 2015 11: 04
      +6
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      can’t finish an airplane based on 29,

      Yes, it was dubbed for a long time already, and they were prescribed in the Navy, but there is no money for the Air Force for purchase. All the news consists precisely in the fact that budget funds were allocated for the construction.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 26 September 2015 11: 08
        0
        Why then are prototypes, not serial ones?
        1. tomket
          tomket 26 September 2015 11: 10
          +3
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Why then are prototypes, not serial ones?

          The magic date on the Aztec calendar ... pah of the Ministry of Finance or anyone there. Will come after 2016 - 2020 ...
  8. figwam
    figwam 26 September 2015 11: 04
    +3
    Very good KB lives.
    RD-33MK with a thrust of 5,4 tons (afterburner - 9 tons) equipped with a smokeless combustion chamber

    Yes, a sore spot MIG-29, a strong smoky trail, on which you can easily navigate the enemy in an air battle.
  9. Abbra
    Abbra 26 September 2015 11: 06
    +3
    In short. Name it MiG-45. And fled ... hi
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 September 2015 11: 18
    0
    "MiG and the head does not hurt!"
    So it should be with the enemy pilots, MiG - and the head flew off with the cockpit! laughing
  11. Vadim12
    Vadim12 26 September 2015 11: 26
    +1
    What is the foreign name for the control system: "FADEC type". And in Russian already?
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 26 September 2015 11: 55
      +1
      Damn, I climbed into the dictionary. Translated about two hours. In Russian - FEDOR. In general, the remark is true. laughing
      1. gjv
        gjv 26 September 2015 12: 49
        +2
        Quote: Abbra
        In Russian - FEDOR

        Managers and marketers rule the ball. Why do not want to write - ECM, Electronic-digital engine management system.
      2. gjv
        gjv 26 September 2015 12: 49
        0
        Quote: Abbra
        In Russian - FEDOR

        Managers and marketers rule the ball. Why do not want to write - ECM, Electronic-digital engine management system.
  12. fzr1000
    fzr1000 26 September 2015 11: 33
    +1
    "Everything in this raging world is ghostly
    There is only MiG for him and hold on
    There is only MiG between past and future
    It is he who is called life ... "
    1. gjv
      gjv 26 September 2015 12: 56
      +4
      Quote: fzr1000
      There is only MiG for him and hold on

      I run on scorched earth
      Hermoshlem slamming on the go
      My "Phantom" with a white arrow
      On the spread wing
      With a roar gains altitude

      As usual in the bar I sit
      I drink whiskey, I look at the girls,
      A telegram arrives -
      Invokes the front of Vietnam
      So tomorrow I'm flying again.

      I fly my dear staff.
      Mother, wife and brother remained here,
      Will I see them
      Will I see them
      Only my yellow brother knows.

      So I'm walking in a foreign land
      Hermeshlem slammed on the go.
      My Phantom is like a bullet fast
      In the sky blue and clear
      With a roar gaining altitude.

      I see the turning blue distance
      It's just too bad to break it
      It’s a pity that you don’t see her,
      Our path is hard and far
      My Phantom is heading east

      I make a left U-turn
      I'm an executioner now, not a pilot,
      Bending over the scope
      And the rockets rush towards the goal
      Ahead of another run.

      I see a bright star in the sky
      And behind it is a streak of smoke.
      I see Harry and Bob
      Rushed to meet God
      I see the MiG-17 on the nose.


      With a roar, the earth is approaching
      My Phantom doesn't listen to the steering wheel
      Catapult is salvation
      But on the slings of bad luck
      I’m landing right in the jungle.

      Just landed, in an instant
      A wild cry rang out from the bushes:
      "Hey you dastardly pirates,
      The hour of reckoning is coming. "
      I lie prone, clung to the ground.

      Here I am walking on the cursed land
      I can’t see more orders.
      My "Phantom" is like a slain beast
      On the ground lies broken.
      I can’t fly on it anymore.

      Only during interrogation I asked:
      "Who is the pilot who knocked me out?"
      And the slanted answered me
      What commanded the interrogation:
      "Our pilot Li Xi Qing shot you down."

      Only you all lied to me in vain -
      I heard clearly in the face mask:
      "Vasya, hit, and I'll cover!
      Damn you, I'll cover myself! "
      The Soviet commander shot me down.

      Somewhere out there, native Texas.
      At home, my father and mother are waiting for me
      My Phantom exploded quickly
      In the sky blue and clear.
      I can’t see them anymore.
  13. 0255
    0255 26 September 2015 11: 33
    +1
    The MiG-35 has been promised in the Russian Air Force for several years, during this time of promises it could be launched into series. You can type "mig-35" on the website in a search engine and see how much news there was that he will go to the troops very soon
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 26 September 2015 12: 24
      +3
      There is a question of money and hotelok.

      MiG-29M / M2 could be ordered for quite reasonable money for a long time. And this is better than the most advanced Air Force MiG from Algerian failure.

      Plus Bulbs are loaded, perhaps by this. It is necessary to finish the Hindus, so the Navy won the order (ships) and not one MiG-29K / KUB was admitted to Kuza for example (most likely if there is a MiG in the winter, it’s OKBshny). Some are being treated in Yeysk, some have been sent to Lukhovitsy for inpatient treatment. Is it sense to fill up with new orders, if those that are already can not master?
      1. tomket
        tomket 26 September 2015 12: 29
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        Is it sense to fill up with new orders, if those that are already can not master?

        Well, this is already a question for those who think: "Now let's pour in the dough, and our new equipment will go like a river!"
  14. bender8282
    bender8282 26 September 2015 11: 33
    +1
    pulling pussy for peeps! we urgently need a light front-line fighter to replace the good, but worn and outdated moment 29
  15. BOB48
    BOB48 26 September 2015 11: 37
    +4
    due to which the cost of flight hours is 2,5 times lower - exchange rate difference ?????
  16. roskot
    roskot 26 September 2015 11: 52
    0
    Six months is not so much. Wait and see.
  17. Oman 47
    Oman 47 26 September 2015 12: 55
    0
    The MIG-35 issue is a question of the availability of tugriks in the budget.

    The great Poghosyan and so trampled into the mud OKB MIG, unfortunately ...
  18. da Vinci
    da Vinci 26 September 2015 14: 56
    0
    It seems like I heard about MIG 29M 15 years ago (in the magazine "Technology of Youth" or "Aviation and Cosmonautics"). This is probably a deeper modernization? request
  19. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 September 2015 15: 02
    +2
    Price Mig 35 = price Su-35, the modernization potential is almost exhausted, unlike Sukhoi.
    It seems to me that after finishing the T-50, it is necessary to make a front-line fighter with one engine on the basis of its technologies. Not really bothering with "stealth" technologies.
    1. VP
      VP 26 September 2015 17: 55
      +4
      What is it like ? Put the engine on KAMAZ weaker and get a gazelle or something?
  20. tinibar
    tinibar 26 September 2015 15: 20
    +1
    In my humble opinion, the MiG-35 is what the Russian Air Force needs today, and in a decent amount, not individually! But if strictly - yesterday it had to be brought to the air force units. If only the price was not inflated to the price of the Su-35 ...
  21. tyzyaga
    tyzyaga 26 September 2015 15: 42
    0
    I remember in 2009 they said that he would be in the army in 2013, in 2013 they said that in 2016. I hope at least this time will not be postponed

    Thanks to Serdyukov’s politics!
  22. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 26 September 2015 15: 46
    +1
    “The MiG-35 weapons are introducing promising aviation weapons that are not offered for export. Among them, long-range weapons that allow attacking targets without entering the enemy’s air defense zone. The MiG-35 is equipped with a modern defense system, which minimizes the possibility of a sudden attack by a fighter. This complex allows you to recognize both aircraft and flying missiles. "
    If these goodies are on the "baby", then God himself ordered them to be on the heavier machines. Sorry, I'm in a hurry ... maybe they explained it in the comments, but the question is - how did you reduce the cost of the flight?
  23. slaw14
    slaw14 26 September 2015 19: 22
    +1
    At Max 2015 Mig-35
  24. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 26 September 2015 20: 14
    +2
    Quote: 0255
    The MiG-35 has been promised in the Russian Air Force for several years, during this time of promises it could be launched into series. You can type "mig-35" on the website in a search engine and see how much news there was that he will go to the troops very soon

    Promising to marry doesn't mean anything! For a "wedding" money is needed, but it was spent on expensive SUs - our kingdom cannot afford 2-3 "weddings" at once, especially since the "best men" are caught, and the "fathers" practically do not punish them in any way and are not removed from the "ransom" ! Now a council of Chief Designers has been created, so maybe with their help, reasonable financing of various projects will be established! And since this was done before, whoever will win, the money is already costly for the country's budget! And the plane is necessary - it will be a good workhorse, and I think everything will be in order with all the onboard equipment - there are examples of this. In short - no need to be sad, everything will be fine! drinks
  25. Garris199
    Garris199 26 September 2015 21: 09
    +1
    4 ++ with outdated slotted radar, with slightly improved engines? Oh well. This is a maximum of 4+.
  26. Chak
    Chak 26 September 2015 23: 33
    0
    "An experienced MiG-35 for the Russian Air Force will be built next year." In the meantime, fly inexperienced, gain experience lol
  27. rubidiy
    rubidiy 27 September 2015 02: 04
    0
    Quote: viktorR
    I’ll keep silent about the fact that it’s a shame to do military equipment on civilian foreign components

    that's it. Be silent.
  28. Hammer
    Hammer 27 September 2015 20: 08
    0
    Can someone explain to me why the hell do we need this moment? For me, this is the same drying only with a reduced range. Here I understand the slowness of MO, why, instead of normal drying, buy undershot? Is it really in order to appease different migophiles, who incidentally did not see these twinkles in the eye?
  29. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 September 2015 20: 56
    +1
    We need a light front-line fighter made with the maximum use of T-50 technologies. A kind of F-16 at the modern level. T-50s and Su-35s are heavy and expensive fighter jets, you won’t get enough of them in case of loss during military operations, you won’t put them on an ally.
  30. rubidiy
    rubidiy 28 September 2015 01: 33
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    We need a light front-line fighter made with the maximum use of T-50 technologies. A kind of F-16 at the modern level. T-50s and Su-35s are heavy and expensive fighter jets, you won’t get enough of them in case of loss during military operations, you won’t put them on an ally.

    I hope so. Still, not the most obvious solution. With Mig31, everything is clear, but with Mig-35 it’s not at all. And the choice itself seems to be from hopelessness. Still, Mig on the topic of the 5th generation could not imagine anything intelligible at all. And now, having the opportunity to present something new on the subject of interceptors and light fighters, Mig still offers essentially both there and there, only the option of modernizing Soviet-era aircraft. sad
  31. Hammer
    Hammer 28 September 2015 17: 20
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    We need a light front-line fighter made with the maximum use of T-50 technologies. A kind of F-16 at the modern level. T-50s and Su-35s are heavy and expensive fighter jets, you won’t get enough of them in case of loss during military operations, you won’t put them on an ally.

    Why not blast the fighter-interceptor built using stele technology for a moment, with modern radars and weapons. A kind of "raptor killer". Type mig-31 only 5 generations. And not just another multifunctional aircraft that already exists (T-50) with only a short range.
    1. ty60
      ty60 28 September 2015 20: 31
      0
      Which regiment flew?
  32. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 September 2015 18: 10
    0
    By function, the Mig 31 niche will be replaced by the T-50 by 60-60%. And Migi 29 will soon begin to leave en masse. Namely, Mig 29 is the most massive fighter. And commercially, this is the most profitable investment, since exports will be maximum. With the departure of the F-16, only the Chinese remain in this niche.
  33. CRASH
    CRASH 28 September 2015 18: 47
    +1
    When will 31 migs update?