Kiev authorities decided on the enemy "number of times"

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Kiev authorities decided on the enemy "number of times"


The National Security Council of Ukraine (SNBU) has published on its website a draft of a new edition of the country's military doctrine. After President Poroshenko signs it, and there is no doubt about it, it will become a guide for action for all government structures to Square, although Square, that is independent, to call Ukraine, in the author’s opinion, is already wrong. But we are not talking about that now.

AGGRESSOR WHICH KNOW ON THE BANKING

What is striking when reading the text of this project? The fact that Kiev in its directive plan has finally decided on its main military opponent. They, as you might guess, became Russia. This was confirmed by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk. "In the draft military doctrine for the first time history Ukraine’s independence has identified an adversary and an aggressor, which is Russia, ”he said. Note that in the previous doctrine, military opponents of Ukraine did not have a specific address and name. And two more features of the new document - the waiver of the non-aligned status of the country and the strategic course for Euro-Atlantic integration are spelled out in it. That also did not come as a surprise to anyone.

The president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushchenko, also spoke about the non-aligned status of the power and the desire to join NATO. He even sent a request to Brussels to take his country to the North Atlantic Alliance, although 75% of the country's inhabitants, according to a survey, were against it at that time. Maybe that’s why Yushchenko never received the desired response from Brussels. Only the promise of the headquarters of the atlantists to keep in mind a similar perspective. Today, in this perspective, the authorities of Ukraine, too, no one refuses. Nevertheless, as Poroshenko recently admitted, one should not hope to join NATO in the foreseeable future, although one should strive to go there. And the "sovereign Vlad" (state power) will do everything possible for this.

Kiev’s appointment of Russia as an enemy of Ukraine, refusal to cooperate with it and officially declaring it to be a real, rather than a virtual adversary, apparently from the number of contributions that the National Security Council and pan Poroshenko make in the form of an advance for joining the North Atlantic Alliance. Moreover, in Brussels, our country is also increasingly being called as a likely adversary and defiantly contrary to bilateral agreements with Moscow and the Russia-NATO Founding Act of 1997, deploy fairly decent contingents of troops and weapons on our borders, and create headquarters for border countries the actions of the Rapid Reaction Forces, intensify their combat alert aviation at bases in Lithuania and Estonia. Recently, for example, fifth-generation American fighter F-22s even landed at the Emery airfield near Tallinn as part of Estonian-American military exercises. Apparently, for some reason they tried to scare someone. Did not work out.

And although the Ukrainian authorities also concentrated on the border of Donbass almost half of their Armed Forces and even prepare, according to Poroshenko, to attack Moscow, to turn Russia into an enemy of Ukraine will not work. Neither Pan Poroshenko, nor his oligarchic team, which relies on nationalist-criminal structures like the Right Sector. This is Kiev politicians and military at every step claim that Ukraine is at war with Russia, these people mantra zombie their people, but in Russia for some reason no one knows that she is at war with Ukraine. For some reason, nobody announced this to her. Maybe because it does not exist in nature. And in Kiev, no one officially declared Moscow to war. He did not introduce martial law in the country. He did not declare a general mobilization. He did not call: “Everything is for the front! Everything is for victory! ” It seems that even for more than a week the Ukrainian troops and volunteer battalions survived silence in the South-East, stopped firing positions of militias, civilian houses in Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka, in other cities and towns of Donbass. They even started to squeak, but the Minsk Agreement worked, and then - bang and a new military doctrine. And officially declared enemy. Some kind of clowning, not a real policy.

WAR AND TRADE

Maybe someone will remember when it was that one country called the other its enemy and at the same time it bought oil and gas, electricity and diesel fuel from its military adversary (by the way, over the past month, Russia delivered 182 thousand tons of diesel fuel to Ukraine Probably for refueling tanks, which Pan Poroshenko is going to send to Moscow). It supplies natural uranium to its policy enemy for reprocessing and receives ready-made nuclear fuel from it for its nuclear power plants. At the same time, he begs the Kremlin for a 20% discount on government debt, which is already 3 billion green. Otherwise, they are blackmailing you, you will not see this money at all.

Why does the Kiev authorities, not at all embarrassed and blushing neither by the face, nor by any other place, appoint their energy sponsor as an enemy?

The answer is obvious. We must somehow justify in front of our own people failures in foreign policy (associations with the European Union did not happen, even the visa-free regime for citizens of Ukraine was postponed indefinitely), and even the collapse in the economy (the increase in social loads on the population with an increase in unemployment and a sharp decline salaries and purchasing power of citizens), blunders in national politics (to separate from the country or get a special autonomous status go not only the Hungarians of Transcarpathia, but also some areas), a disaster in deciding the territorial question, or rather, the impossibility of solving this issue - neither with the rebellious regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, nor with the population of the Crimea and Sevastopol, which is already a year and a half, as an overwhelming number of votes (almost 97% came to the referendum) spoke in favor of returning to Russia and returned to it. Finally and irrevocably.

Who is to blame? Are the cheeky oligarchic authorities, who care not about improving the welfare of the country's population, but about their own well-being (Poroshenko’s business, who, having become president, had to give up his factories and television stations, has grown twice in the last year)? Surely aggressive Russophobic nationalist policies, rampant banditry and arbitrariness of the so-called ATO veterans? Perhaps the mediocre parquet generals, who very skillfully led their troops into various "boilers" and threw them there without ammunition, food and medical aid, as they say, to the mercy of fate, and then those who survived and surrendered to the victors, sent under a military tribunal as deserters and cowards? Who in Kiev is able to admit his guilt ?!


Debaltsevsky boiler dispelled last hope
Kiev on the blitzkrieg. Reuters Photos


MYTHS OF SELF-DEBATE

Perhaps that is why the myths about the Russian troops are created (30 thousand, 40 thousand or sometimes 11 thousand. - Poroshenko and his minions are constantly confused in numbers), who are fighting against the Ukrainian army in the Donbas together with terrorists (as the militias in Kiev are called protecting their homes and the lives of their families). And also legends about the Russian generals who created the Ilovaisky and Debaltsevsky boilers for the Ukrainian troops. At a press conference in Kiev, the Security Service of Ukraine and the presidential administration even listed a dozen surnames of Russian military leaders who allegedly led the troops who surrounded the Ukrainian units in the boilers and destroyed hundreds of “Ukrainian patriots”. And even sent this list to the United States. Whether so that these people were brought under sanctions, or so that the Pentagon began to fear them. They even called the organizer of all the victories of the militias in the Donbas not anyone, but the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, Army General Valery Gerasimov. Which is not surprising.

Kiev cannot admit that its generals are so incompetent, so weak in the art of war and tactics that they lost the battles of the semi-guerrilla army one after another weapon to protect yesterday’s miners' own children, workers, engineers, accountants, and chauffeurs. At the same time, they do not understand or do not want to understand that Russian generals and Russian troops have nothing to do with this, that the people who defend their right to life with arms can’t be defeated. As do the militia of the South-East of Ukraine, who are helped, and this is also not a secret, volunteers from Russia and other countries. Even Italians, French and Americans. But not Russian troops (battalions and brigades with tanks, guns, aircraft, etc.) and not Russian generals with their headquarters and branched control systems.

Volunteers are present at any civil war, and it is she who is going on in Ukraine, and not, as they say in Kiev, the antiterrorist operation (ATO). This was the case in the 30s of the last century in Spain, when thousands of volunteers from the Union and other European countries, including the United States, fought against the fascist regime of Franco. This is happening now in Ukraine.

Well, it’s not surprising that Ukraine’s authorities blame all the troubles of Ukraine. This is the main myth and self-deception of Kiev, which, as a mental disorder, will not pass without another strong shake-up and effective medicine. Not necessarily as a new Maidan. By the way, the organization of the "old" Ukrainian authorities also accused Moscow and the Russian FSB. If someone does not remember, it was claimed by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. He said that the Kiev Maidan is “the concentration of incomprehensible, illiterate people on the main square of the country is a project of the FSB”. And the former Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Colonel-General Valery Geletey, said that "Russia has struck a nuclear attack on the Luhansk airport." President Petro Poroshenko said that in organizing a recent rally at the walls of the Verkhovna Rada and the explosions of military grenades, which killed three policemen and injured 150 people with splinters, "one can see the hand of Moscow", which had the opportunity to "influence the Right Sector" (by the way, in Russia). Moreover, he refused the brotherhood to the Russian and Ukrainian people and agreed that one of the solutions to the problem of the south-eastern regions of Ukraine could be “the advance of the Armed Forces, the military liberation of the territories and the march on Moscow” ...

The degree of adequacy, and at the same time the hypocrisy of this person to judge the readers.

Poor Ukraine. They say that when God wants to punish a person, he takes his mind. I can not understand what the land where I was born, in which my loved ones lie, whose songs tear my soul, that he punished this country so much, was guilty before the Lord. What is the reason for such an attack - to become a field of contention between the powers that be, to lose our real independence, to become a semi-colony of a state alien to her and her people and his henchmen. I remember that in history there have already been such bitter and dark times, when an entire people for a couple of decades suddenly found themselves in the grip of self-deception and national demagogues, who pushed them to monstrous crimes against humanity. But they went too. Although it cost the world dozens of ravaged countries and nearly hundreds of millions of lives. And this is not a consolation - only pain and sadness.

After 70 years after those terrible events, I want to warn Ukrainian politicians and generals against unconsciousness. No need to appoint enemies - look for friends and allies. Salvation - trying to live in harmony and peace with their neighbors.
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  1. +18
    27 September 2015 05: 39
    How much can you pour from empty to empty?
    And so everyone knows the Khokhlyatsky mentality: "Neighbor, let me devour, otherwise I have nothing to shit with you under the door!"
    1. +55
      27 September 2015 06: 50
      Regarding the war with Russia
      1. +6
        27 September 2015 14: 48
        Kiev authorities decided on the enemy "number of times"


        and the OWNER and "friend" is "number two", of course SySuA ...
    2. +5
      27 September 2015 07: 57
      Quote: Old Warrior
      How much can you pour from empty to empty?
      And so everyone knows the Khokhlyatsky mentality: "Neighbor, let me devour, otherwise I have nothing to shit with you under the door!"

      And Russia again supports the Kiev regime with gas discounts ..
      1. +10
        27 September 2015 09: 25
        And Russia again supports the Kiev regime with gas discounts ..

        Alas, this is a payment to ensure that Ukrainians do not steal gas from a pipe intended for deliveries to Europe. And the economy of Russia is now sitting on an oil and gas needle, and this is no secret to anyone.
        As for the fact that the country is 404, or rather its not quite adequate leadership declared Russia to be enemy No. 1, I have two questions:
        - what will the Ukrainians do when Russia takes and takes seriously their cries of "Russia is a thief !!!" and will respond adequately, at least demanding the return of the state debt in full and immediately, cutting off all supplies to / to Ukraine, in particular the same gas?
        - where will the Ukrainian elites and, to a large extent, the people (from among the Svidomo nezalezhniki) run to, if Russia responds to Ukraine’s calls for war by introducing its troops into the territory of Novorosia, having previously recognized the DPR and LPR and at the request of the latter (I understand that it’s utopia, but still .. What the hell is not joking when the angels sleep? wassat ).
        Something like that.
        I have the honor. hi
        1. +2
          27 September 2015 11: 03
          Quote: Alexander72
          Alas, this is a payment to ensure that Ukrainians do not steal gas from a pipe intended for deliveries to Europe. AND


          And you think this will stop them? naive explanation about the discount ..
        2. +1
          27 September 2015 17: 12
          Quote: Alexander72
          Alas, this is a payment to ensure that Ukrainians do not steal gas from a pipe intended for deliveries to Europe.

          The situation is even more interesting in my opinion. Why doesn’t anyone think what will happen if tomorrow comes to us after the collapse of the economy and possible after this collapse of statehood
          Quote: Alexander72
          Ukrainian elites and a large part of the people will run

          with our economy, social and political situation in the country. For some reason, people who love to wave a saber on the Internet are big lovers to think about before waving.
        3. +1
          27 September 2015 21: 29
          Quote: Alexander72
          - what will the Ukrainians do when Russia takes and takes seriously their cries of "Russia is a thief !!!" and will respond adequately, at least demanding the return of the state debt in full and immediately, cutting off all supplies to / to Ukraine, in particular the same gas?

          Even the most stubborn can wake up when the house turns off the light and gas, so the party is not over yet:
      2. Viktortopwar
        -5
        27 September 2015 09: 45
        This does not support Russia, look who our Minister of Energy is, for example, a crest, so he does not abandon his own.
        1. +6
          27 September 2015 10: 03
          Put a minus. Do not insult all Ukrainians living in Russia for more than a decade, or even a century. Klimkin was born in Kursk. He received education in Russia and now what to draw conclusions about the Russians because of this shit.
          1. +3
            27 September 2015 10: 48
            A man is joking, and you are educating him.)
            1. +3
              27 September 2015 11: 05
              Beat - defines consciousness ... laughing
          2. Viktortopwar
            +2
            27 September 2015 11: 09
            Dear victorsh, before criticizing, it’s useful to know that: Klimkin is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine. And Novak is the Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation (I wrote about him). Is this a minus? And yes, I have never insulted Ukrainians.
      3. +5
        27 September 2015 10: 54
        And Russia again supports the Kiev regime with gas discounts ..


        Russia does not give discounts to Ukraine, but to the EU, which traded and will pay gas for Ukraine. And he pays because he wants transit guarantees for himself.
    3. +2
      27 September 2015 13: 36
      Goonies! Themselves gave us the basis for any sanctions actions - "And for sho? So we are the enemy, we can!" laughing
    4. 0
      28 September 2015 16: 28
      There is a fifth column in any state, there is no getting away from it ... There are enough traitors everywhere. The whole question is that it needs to be controlled, calculated, kept in check, recruitment, etc. In general, the work of counterintelligence ... A lot depends on it.
  2. +6
    27 September 2015 05: 59
    How amazing all this is. So many donkeys suddenly gathered in one place! Poor Ukraine
    1. +7
      27 September 2015 06: 10
      ... So many donkeys suddenly gathered in one place! ... -
      So they were collected, collected, they say they collected for a long time, almost two hundred years. So they collected it. And we slammed, and now we clap our ears. So we do it right, we must be more careful.
      1. +4
        27 September 2015 07: 00
        Usually so many cattle are collected for the slaughter ... But who will eat this donkey donkey? I think that everything will end up in the cattle burial ground ..
        Quote: venaya
        ... So many donkeys suddenly gathered in one place! ... -
        So they were collected, collected, they say they collected for a long time, almost two hundred years. So they collected it. And we slammed, and now we clap our ears. So we do it right, we must be more careful.
      2. +32
        27 September 2015 07: 01
        Odessa joke. One more
    2. +15
      27 September 2015 07: 24
      Quote: zurbagan63
      How amazing all this is. So many donkeys suddenly gathered in one place! Poor Ukraine

      Poor Ukraine?
  3. +17
    27 September 2015 06: 10
    Yes, these schizophrenics are worse than the annoying mosquito. Colony 404, but thinks of itself as the center of the universe, it’s time to take on slippers and crush all these giblets, eggs, and other cattle as cockroaches.
  4. +4
    27 September 2015 06: 25
    The junta's statements from the series - "it's easier to kill a lion than to remove bedbugs"
  5. +14
    27 September 2015 06: 28
    Who would doubt it, not Pin ... they’ll appoint the Ukrainians as enemies, and so, Russia is enemy number one, Pindo ..... we’ve been announced at least under the second number, our rating is rising, there is a question, gentlemen oligarchs and businessmen and our beloved government, how long will you six in front of a country that has declared Russia an enemy, and you give them a discount on gas, diesel, so that tanks from Ukrainians without fuel, God forbid, stand still and kill children and women do not stop, I understand that business is a business agreement there are different, but not to the same extent, you gentlemen, along with Ukrainians, become killers or think that they will put a word for you in front of Pindo ..... yourself, do not hope.
    1. +1
      27 September 2015 09: 11
      I agree 100%! But who is in the government? And where do we get so many oligarchs from? Ah, what a tremendous amount of money pours into their pocket! Who will block this flow? Niz-zya-ya! It’s time for the government to persecute!
    2. 0
      27 September 2015 15: 15
      I agree with you 100%, our tops have one motto “money doesn’t smell” they don’t care who and what to sell, if only there was income.
  6. +4
    27 September 2015 06: 35
    A gathering of patients in the Fashington Regional Committee was composed another "dedication". And after all, the patients will sign - what to take from them ...
    In general, like in "Vacation in Prostokvashino" - we feed them, heat them, and they draw figwams for us ...
    1. +3
      27 September 2015 07: 40
      Quote: staryivoin
      A gathering of patients in the Fashington regional committee was composed of another "dedication".

      I have no words! Some expressions! ........ am
      Specialists from NATO countries participated in the creation of a new military doctrine of Ukraine, Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak said.
      “This is the first fundamental document in the history of Ukraine, which was created, including with the participation of experts from NATO countries,” said the head of the defense department, speaking at the US-Ukrainian forum in the building of the US Congress, RIA Novosti reports.
      Among the main priorities of this strategy, Poltorak singled out "the direction of movement towards the EU." “Another top priority is joining NATO in the long term,” he said.
      The Minister also noted as “the third priority that for the first time we determined who our enemy is”. “And this enemy is Russia,” he said.
  7. +9
    27 September 2015 06: 41
    Well, the mentality of ho.hlyatsky. My hut is on the edge. Hai e. To be, anyhow not byl. sad Yes, the floor of Ukraine is at least against this government, and is ready to be friends with Russia. A bunch of ghouls dictates the will, Ugh!
    In the Donbass why failures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Yes, no one wants to fight, they keep automatic machines from under the stick. There are ideological ones, but their couple are people in the company. And Kievans, intellectuals damn it, they set up the piano. And it’s very hard to fight it.
    1. +4
      27 September 2015 07: 51
      Quote: Barracuda
      Kievans, intellectuals damn, all the piano set up. SHAME!

      These same "intellectuals" actively supported both the first and second Maidan. Everyone hopes that "abroad will help us." How can you not believe it? After all, the president himself
      while in New York, he called the "presence" of the presence in Ukraine of American instructors who train units of the National Guard. This was announced on Sunday, 27 September, "Interfax".
      «It’s not only interesting for Ukrainians to learn how to fight from their American partners. It is interesting for the Americans to learn how to beat Russia, ”Poroshenko said during a conversation with representatives of the Ukrainian diaspora in the United States. Therefore, according to the Ukrainian president, the presence of the US military in Ukraine is "this is an interchange, mutual assistance." He also said that training of Ukrainian special forces will begin in November with the help of the best instructors from the United States.
      In July, the State Department announced a training program for the Ukrainian military. According to the official representative of the department, in addition to the training of fighters of the National Guard, training of Ukrainian troops will be conducted near the Polish border. He also said that over the year the United States allocated 244 million dollars to support the Ukrainian armed forces.
      In addition to the United States, Poland, Canada and the United Kingdom also decided to send military instructors to Ukraine. American special forces have been in the country since April.
  8. +10
    27 September 2015 06: 57
    There is nothing to add.
  9. +9
    27 September 2015 06: 57
    Poor Ukraine They say that when God wants to punish a person, he takes away his mind.
    And leads to the power of the Jews. Has anyone ever wondered how Ukrainians will give away what the Jews hired and stole? And let someone tell me that there are no Jews in power in Hohland and they do not occupy, do not steal and do not sell their native Nenko.
    1. +7
      27 September 2015 07: 06
      Quote: igorra
      how Ukrainians will give what they hired and stole the Jews?

      That is, only ugly, evil Jews steal? But themselves .. Ukrainians-they are white, fluffy and with wings?

      Cool .. didn’t know .. okay ..

      Quote: igorra
      And let someone tell me that there are no Jews in power in Hohland and they do not occupy, do not steal and do not sell their native Nenko

      Yes, of course there is! And they steal and sell .. stsuki, definitely!

      And .. local natives - they have nothing to do with it .. nooo .. laughing
  10. +4
    27 September 2015 07: 03
    We survived ..., Russia is the enemy No. 1. fool
    And why do you only know something from Russia and begging, from the "aggressor"? Are you referring to "brothers and sisters, both father and mother," or are you "more exceptional" than the most "exceptional" on the planet? Oh, well, yes ... Pig Yuk recently told the whole WORLD how your "genius" has been planting humanity, since ancient times, his achievements in science and technology ... laughing
  11. +4
    27 September 2015 07: 16
    “For the first time in the history of Ukraine’s independence, the draft military doctrine defines the adversary and aggressor, which is Russia”

    I constantly want to ask Yatsenyuk and others who are downtrodden and deprived of reason - do you really hope that "omnipotent" (in your mind) America will save you from what you have done? Stupid people (to put it mildly, otherwise the moderators will not let you through)!
  12. +2
    27 September 2015 07: 22
    That's it, we got a discount on Russian gas, we gave money to buy it, we are looking for an enemy again. We are "aggressors" again. negative hi
  13. +4
    27 September 2015 07: 34
    In Kiev, they cannot admit that its generals are so mediocre, so weak in military art and tactics, that they lost one after another the battles of the semi-partisan army ...

    In Kiev, they can’t, BUT ...
    The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada and the commander of the Azov regiment, Andrei Biletsky, who is distinguished by openly Nazi views, looks at modern Ukrainian politics without enthusiasm, and looks at the Minsk agreements with fear. However, he believes that Ukraine may need a “change."
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, declaring how successful the country is moving to the EU, NATO and global markets, does not accept rainbow paintings that are painted before the public. “For a year and a half, we were not even able to save what we have. We have fallen in international rankings, ”he said, confident that the Ukrainian army was far from calling it“ one of the strongest armies in Europe. ”
    “I'm afraid to disappoint him as commander in chief, but this is far from the case. In international army ratings, we dropped significantly below Thailand. We are the 25 country since the end of the ranking. We are degrading before our eyes. It’s frankly painful to see what is happening in the army, ”he concluded, adding that Ukrainian fighters just had to go“ to the point of cynical bullying ”to get official status, and they were met by“ absolute hopelessness ”and“ impossibility of growth. "

    He is now telling the truth, and in the light of the upcoming elections, both nationalists and those who are tired of the thief from Poroshenko’s company will vote for him. A very dangerous enemy - smart and ideological.
  14. +3
    27 September 2015 07: 44
    Andrey Biletsky

    I would have taken this contraceptive, forgive the woman, bent a birch and tied a 0.7 fishing line to the eggs, and let go. am
  15. +4
    27 September 2015 07: 57
    The authoritative publication The Times claims that hundreds of NATO experts in nuclear chemical weapons are arriving in Ukraine. The media reported that this is marked by intelligence from the Armed Forces of Ukraine that the militia allegedly is preparing a "dirty bomb."

    Dynamics is attached to the events by the fact that Ukraine adopted a law stating that NATO can briefly deploy troops on its territory with weapons of mass destruction.

    “Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov suggests that this may be due to the increased manipulation of the Zaporizhzhya NPP by the Americans. Plus, there is a chance to be warming up the "Russian conflict."

    But the international expert on radiobiochemical protection, Alan Rostz, says that Ukrainian troops will learn to act in response to powerful explosions and how to deal with the spread of dangerous substances.

    “At the same time, Rostz says that the militias do not need a“ dirty bomb ”:

    “Firstly, they do not have the necessary materials, and secondly, where do they use it, in Mariupol, which they need clean and passable, and not nuclear-contaminated?”

    In turn, a former military specialist in RBHZ said that this situation should be treated with special attention and caution, since all the information indicates a chemical attack in Ukraine, whether it is an initiative of NATO or the United States.

    Any questions? I do not have.
    1. +3
      27 September 2015 10: 55
      Quote: Egoza
      The media reported that this is marked by intelligence from the Armed Forces of Ukraine that the militia allegedly is preparing a "dirty bomb."


      There are no questions, but the assumption that some Biden or McCain will shake a test tube with soda and declare that, according to the "competent authorities", the "dirty bomb" is ready for use, there is a place to be (remember Geletey with his statement about the atomic attack of Russia to the Kharkiv region). Crazy, however, chronicles. fool
  16. +4
    27 September 2015 07: 59
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: igorra
    how Ukrainians will give what they hired and stole the Jews?

    That is, only ugly, evil Jews steal? But themselves .. Ukrainians-they are white, fluffy and with wings?

    Cool .. didn’t know .. okay ..

    Quote: igorra
    And let someone tell me that there are no Jews in power in Hohland and they do not occupy, do not steal and do not sell their native Nenko

    Yes, of course there is! And they steal and sell .. stsuki, definitely!

    And .. local natives - they have nothing to do with it .. nooo .. laughing

    In percentage terms, Jews in power are now much more than Ukrainians. Remember Russia and the revolution - how the Jews dreamed of throwing our country into the furnace of the world revolution, okay, Stalin happened. I hope the real names of Trotsky, Sverdlov, etc. no need to bring?
    1. +1
      27 September 2015 08: 30
      Quote: igorra
      In percentage terms, Jews in power are now much more than Ukrainians

      Yes, and a devil would be with them, huh? What to focus on - Jew, crest, Georgian, Russian?

      Thieves - it is thieves .. has no nationality.

      Quote: igorra
      Remember Russia and the revolution - how the Jews dreamed of throwing our country into the furnace of the world revolution, okay, Stalin happened

      There is such a version ..

      I just don’t like it when they try to explain complex enough things with one or two reasons .. the machinations of the Zionists, Masons, ZOG-ohm, Fed-ohm, world backstage ..

      And why then not anunahs with Nibiru, for example? No worse than the version ..

      It’s unscientific .. completely No.
  17. +2
    27 September 2015 08: 18
    Why should she suffer so much - to become a field of discord between the powers that be, to lose her real independence, turn into a half-colony of a state alien to her and her people and his proteges.

    Sorry, but such an attack began from the time when the Russians (Little Russians) began to abandon their history and began to call themselves the nation invented by their enemies - the Ukrainians.
    We also have a "new nation" in Russia - "liberals" - who are ready to sell Russia.
    You must take care of your history and, moreover, do not spit on it! And a vivid example of this respect is South-East of Ukraine.
    1. +2
      27 September 2015 08: 25
      Quote: Rossi-Ya
      such an attack began from the time when the Russians (Little Russians) began to abandon their history and began to call themselves the nation invented by their enemies - the Ukrainians.

      Well, excuse me, V.I. Lenin approved! And supported! And contributed in every way!
      As for theft .... well, this is the "humor of the week"
      According to Ukrainian media, on Friday, officers of the Kiev patrol service detained a car in which the leader of the Batkivshchyna faction, Yulia Tymoshenko, with security guards, was detained for violating traffic rules. The details of the incident "Observer" were told by sources in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In particular, it is reported that the car was detained for crossing a double solid line. After inspecting the car, special signals (flashing lights) were found in the trunk. In addition, after checking the documents and comparing the car body numbers, it turned out that the car is wanted and previously was in the personal fleet of the fugitive president of the country, Viktor Yanukovych. The employees drew up a protocol, further verification is being carried out.

      Well this is necessary! And sitting in prison at that moment, steal! Revenge! laughing
      1. +2
        27 September 2015 10: 41
        Quote: Egoza
        Well this is necessary! And sitting in prison at that moment, steal! Revenge!


        Hello, Lena. Mdya, they laughed heartily.
        However, what is there to be surprised at - kleptomania is an incurable disease (be it gas, a budget, a piece of land or a car).
  18. +2
    27 September 2015 08: 22
    "Kiev, in its directive terms, has finally decided on its main military adversary. Russia, as you might guess, has become them."

    How? But what about Putin? Disorder in the "rabbit troops".
    1. +9
      27 September 2015 08: 52
      Quote: mamont5

      How? But what about Putin? Disorder in the "rabbit troops".
      1. +1
        27 September 2015 15: 20
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        How? But what about Putin? Disorder in the "rabbit troops".

        And he waved a discount on gas, (fraternally)
  19. +1
    27 September 2015 09: 08
    .eeivsky blitzkrieg near Ilovaisk and Debaltsev MIXED)))). Ipanuta forgot sho this is a relative, and the borders are so strokes on the map
  20. +1
    27 September 2015 09: 18
    Here's what interests me: how Europe looks between itself at all this - Kiev in every possible way spoils Russia and at the same time asks for discounts, concessions, gas, electricity and coal cheaper. In Europe, laughing with this quietly? Or just twirl a finger at the temple?
  21. +7
    27 September 2015 09: 21
    This madhouse in Ukraine will end only when the entire junta hangs on lampposts along Khreshchatyk
  22. +3
    27 September 2015 09: 44
    I can’t understand what the land where I was born was guilty of before the Lord, in which my loved ones lie, whose songs tear my soul, that he punished this country so much. Why should she suffer so much - to become a field of discord between the powers that be, to lose her real independence, to become a semi-colony of a state alien to her and her people and his proteges
    indefatigable craving for a freebie
  23. +1
    27 September 2015 10: 17
    The military doctrine of Ukraine is actually an attempt to divert attention from the real state of the Ukrainian armed forces. Suddenly, someone will lead and believe that the Ukrainian army is not completely collapsed, but is a kind of serious and combat-ready power structure.
  24. +1
    27 September 2015 10: 24
    Looking through the news of Ukraine, you can endlessly quote Lavrov's remark. And it enrages our "exceptional and great" UKROV that "goat-faced quilted jackets" have them in all the cracks. From these "boilers" they have all the scars in their dupa, worse than Lyashka's.
  25. +2
    27 September 2015 10: 35
    (... what the land where I was born guilty of before the Lord, in which my loved ones lie, whose songs tear my soul, that he punished this country so much.)

    The author did not understand what the former Ukraine was guilty of before the Almighty. And she was guilty that she gave birth to a w.d.o.d.o., who did not know and did not recognize the roots and kinship, that she believed in the promises of a Western paradise and prosperity instead of building this prosperity on her territory with hard work, not freebie and begging. Yes
  26. +2
    27 September 2015 10: 58
    Euro-ukry have long gone mad with despair and depression! All that is left for them now is to blame Russia for all the troubles ... To declare Russia an aggressor and beg for a discount on gas. To claim that Russia attacked Ukraine and flee to hide in Russia from being drafted into the Army ?! Nonsense (Apparently this is the whole point of the rotten "True Ukrainians").
  27. +1
    27 September 2015 11: 02
    With or without gas, Poroshenko’s regime is doomed.
  28. +1
    27 September 2015 11: 13
    What is the same? And you called him Vorogom and mos cal yak for a gilyaka orosh, but you suckers can’t guess that we’ll need to take us prisoner as a war immediately. We have ended with fat, and you will be called upon to feed us future occupants.
  29. +2
    27 September 2015 11: 26
    Jokes jokes, but I point blank do not understand the logic of our government.
    Our government.
    Well, Ukrainian nerds, it’s clear with them, they work out money. In sweat, their faces, pounded, from all sides plastering. Therefore, specialists from NATA are mastering the doctrine. The morons themselves ... are not capable.
    And ours count on what?
    That sooner or later the people will see, let them throw off this shoble? Kill me with an inflatable balloon, I will not believe in such troubles of our sovereigns. They themselves perfectly know the role of the people and what they are capable of.
    Not for this, our President rose to the rank of colonel in the KGB in order to count on the masses.
    What then?
    These discounts, debts that are not needed, like BE. Us.
    Or they know for sure that at a certain moment, hour X, day M, month Y, year Zyu ... all this gang-brethren, who sat on Bankovskaya and in other places will be caught, picked up under the white handles.
    With the corresponding continuation - to whom a file in the teeth, to whom a serum. Who is in the flow immediately.
    ...
    Of course, I’d like to think that this is such an oxymoron of our Most Darkest-Most Holy ... say, you guys try there, try, open wide open before the Khokhlov authorities - it will be easier to breed you later, like suckers. Oh, and laugh.
    Yes, that's just - I do not believe in that.
    ...
    What's going on?
  30. +6
    27 September 2015 11: 39
    Enough of illusions, they say they are our brothers.
    They have always been like that. Is always. And at the turn of the 80s - 90s and a quarter century later. I’m not talking about Western Ukraine now, everything is clear there - slaves who have been washing pots for their masters over the centuries (Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Austrians, etc.), I’m talking about central Ukraine, they hate us. Sometimes I go to the Kharkov forum, and so there 99% of forum users are frank Nazis, but a city-wide forum with hundreds of thousands of forum users is an ideal sample! IMHO you need:
    1). The wall on the border, so that the mouse does not slip.
    2). Block all roads, no cars, trains, buses, planes, communication only through third countries.
    3). The most severe visa regime. Do you want to communicate with your relatives in Belarus, etc.
    4). Deep relations without ambassadors, only a few diplomats at the embassy and consulate.
    5). FULL RIP of all relations (economic, cultural, social, etc.), leave the pipe only until 2019.
    6). To deport all citizens of Ukraine in a short time, to remove from all gates, to expel all within a month (except for political refugees, refugees from the Donbass, give them Russian citizenship).
    7). All residents of Ukraine who wished to leave for the Russian Federation immediately be granted citizenship of the Russian Federation (!!!!! subject to a full-scale survey, including a lie detector - whether he was on the Maidan, whether he participated in the ATO, if he sympathized with the current authorities and other Bandera people, did he help them, how do you feel about Russia, etc.). Thus, all the normal will leave for the Russian Federation, and the mad Nazis will die in Bandera.
    8). All you can help Donbass.
  31. +3
    27 September 2015 12: 06
    Quote: victorsh
    Put a minus. Do not insult all Ukrainians living in Russia for more than a decade, or even a century. Klimkin was born in Kursk. He received education in Russia and now what to draw conclusions about the Russians because of this shit.


    And not only Klimkin !!! They are all traitors, to the last !!! And they have no forgiveness !!! Do you want to argue with my life experience? Oh well!!!
  32. +2
    27 September 2015 13: 44
    Once again, we decided on the enemy incorrectly - their enemy "number of times" is their stupidity
  33. +2
    27 September 2015 14: 42
    This under-state struggles to shit Russia with all its might, and our authorities have zero attention.
    At a minimum, there is a situation on the part of Ukraine: slander and insult to the state, its leaders, the people of the country, in addition to the murder of Russian citizens and journalists, and more.
    The Russian government is obliged to take measures and duly respond to all this.
    And the answer should not be in the form of a statement of regret.
    It's time to put this scum in place.
    And when Poroshenko says that he is giving Russia a tough time, this is, firstly, an insult.
    And on the other hand, it’s not offensive, but, in part, he’s right-
    the power in the country is toothless; it swallows all insults, suffers slander and behaves like an obliging idiot.
    Question in the name of what? So that a handful of financial tycoons who have warmed up near the authorities continued to weld capital? Or so that the head of the Central Bank would be recognized by world speculators for their support in favor of the Fed, the tomb of the country's already frail economy? Or did the Minister of Economic Underdevelopment continue to broadcast its conflicting forecasts, demonstrating its incompetence as a leader?
    And this is at a time when every Russian, on the question of what is happening, knows the answer - the US Federal Reserve is managing our economy in its interests, which for a long time, or rather always, consisted in the destruction of the country as a state. Moreover, the United States has long been pursuing such a policy not only in relation to the Russian Federation - it is also happening with other countries: Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya have already been destroyed, Syria and Ukraine are being destroyed, and other countries are only standing in this line, and that’s all, in t. hours EU
  34. +2
    27 September 2015 14: 47
    The fact is that ukraine needs to be worked out or pretend that they are fulfilling orders from Washington, they said that Russia is the number one enemy, that means there can be no objection, they would try not to execute the Ukrainians, the consequences are not predictable, all camarilla would rattle under fanfare, so they try to climb out of their skin to please the owner, the licking zombies.
  35. wow
    0
    27 September 2015 17: 13
    For some reason, these ukrogoblins hope to avoid a rope with a loop at the end. Until now, none of them have succeeded.
  36. 0
    27 September 2015 18: 09
    Well, and how? Fascists for 285 bucks and in Russia for 5.50 rubles?
    What is this Keramantiya ???
    Liberasty caved in?
    Or Putin under them?
    Or did everyone snout in fluff and greenback?
  37. 0
    27 September 2015 18: 35
    On the evil dill sites, they say that GDP is the owner of the Gas Industry, and of all Siberian oil. The richest man in the world.
    I’m only FOR more of these. Pull the country out of shit, and not lose face, you need to be able to.
  38. 0
    27 September 2015 20: 55
    Since, at the request of Kiev, Russia is enemy number "one" for him, then from a legal point of view, Russia’s hands are completely untied both in the economic and military-political sense, we should not wait for the Kiev "utyrki" to climb on Russia, we must beat them first "hard but carefully". Europe now has no time for Ukrainians, they will not interfere; they have a headache with the Arabs, they do not know what to do, and Fashington will not climb alone, the most opportune moment has come to restore order in Ukraine.
  39. 0
    28 September 2015 00: 24
    The name is what they came up with. Independent, symbolically somehow. They didn’t lie under anyone for a long time.
  40. 0
    28 September 2015 10: 08
    Look, how systematically, no matter what, the Americans bend their line on the outskirts!
    The more absurd the better! Not a bad technique, but only for a short time span.
    With a great desire, the situation will not be difficult to turn around the opposite, and svidomye with the same fury and enthusiasm will slaughter Jews and English speakers. And in such an initiative 90% of the world's population will help them!
  41. 0
    28 September 2015 10: 31
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: staryivoin
    A gathering of patients in the Fashington regional committee was composed of another "dedication".

    I have no words! Some expressions! ........ am
    Specialists from NATO countries participated in the creation of a new military doctrine of Ukraine, Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak said ......
    Among the main priorities of this strategy, Poltorak singled out "the direction of movement towards the EU." “Another top priority is joining NATO in the long term,” he said.
    The Minister also noted as “the third priority that for the first time we determined who our enemy is”. “And this enemy is Russia,” he said.

    Is the specialist Poltorak the one with Russia in the south-north and the DPR in the west-east?
  42. 0
    28 September 2015 16: 23
    The enemy number one is the one who gives gas to the kakelam at a discount!
  43. 0
    28 September 2015 22: 57
    About the plans of the West
    The anti-Russian position of Ukraine is just what the United States needs. Ukrainian authorities helpfully play up to the American goal of weakening Russia. And so it came quickly - to the "special relations of Ukraine with NATO" and to the exercises of the American fleet in the Black Sea. Involuntarily, you recall Parvus’s immortal plan of 1915: to use Ukrainian separatism for the successful collapse of Russia ...
    Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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