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Russian weapons can help Syria defeat ISIS

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Russian weapons can help Syria defeat ISISSu-30 fighters, Su-24 front-line bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft, Tanks T-72 and T-90 - all this range of weapons, according to a number of sources, is now actively coming from Russia to Syria. How exactly should the Syrian government army use this formidable force to turn the tide of battle and throw ISIS into the desert?


The choice of weapons that can be used in the framework of the new stage of the coalition operation against ISIS is primarily determined by the setting of tasks. Statements about mass deliveries of such weapons from Russia are received almost daily. Moreover, the first reports of the successful use of the new Russian weapons in Syria.

How exactly should Syria use Russian weapons with the greatest efficiency? It largely depends on the targets chosen on the territory of ISIS, both tactical and strategic.

The choice of strategic objectives is based on an analysis of the structure of ISIS, primarily its logistical system, supplies and tactics. ISIS has proven to be extremely vulnerable in the field of supply, despite the considerable financial potential created mainly by oil smuggling. In addition, the rapid advance to the north and north-west of ISIS greatly stretched communications.

This is especially important because in recent months the ISIS military organization has begun to acquire the features of a regular army. She had rear bases, warehouses, fuel stations. For the Salafists, this is a necessary measure, and they are not ready psychologically, or organizationally, or in command, to move to a “regular” war — with front and rear. During the two years of the war, ISIS physically lost practically all the military professionals who created its military structure. These were mainly former Iraqi generals and colonels, Ba'athists who chose ISIL as an effective form of US revenge and a tool for creeping the restoration of Iraq “as under Saddam”, but without Saddam. Now, however, only fanatics accustomed to terrorism and guerrilla, and not to the organization of a regular front, remained in the command of ISIS.

In addition, ISIS gradually began to lose attractiveness for the “20 tribes union” of central and northern Iraq, which was a mobilization reserve for ISIL. People became commonplace miss. Practically on the entire front line in Syria, ISIS was forced to go on the defensive, however, quite successful. The offensive actions fit perfectly into this scheme, since they are very pinpoint in nature and consist in attempts to seize the large bases of the Syrian government forces.


How Russia delivers military goods to Syria

Thus, the most profitable and important strategic goals for a potential operation against ISIS can be its rear bases, especially large fuel stocks, front-line repair bases, as well as columns delivering fuels and lubricants to the fronts.

Attacks on such targets are not as difficult as they seem at first glance, although they are associated with purely technical difficulties. Already, the government forces have enough Air Force instruments at their disposal to begin successfully carrying out such assault operations. Squadrons (12 units) of Su-24 front-line bombers and the same number of Su-25 attack aircraft are quite enough - namely, that number, according to some reports, was recently transferred to Syria from Russia.

ISIS supply routes through the desert can be easily established. There is still relatively recent experience in dealing with such convoys in Afghanistan, where both helicopters were actively used (the Syrian air force has seven Mi-24 and an unspecified number of Mi-4), and ambushes by special forces and airborne troops.

The weak side of this tactic may be the insufficient provision of the Syrian government forces with modern communication systems and radars. Already, there has been an increase in the activity of communication systems, some of which were not at all in the past month. True, they are located outside the “zone of responsibility” of ISIS and control the space held by the “ordinary” opposition.

In addition, it is imperative to link all such operations (both airborne and landing) to real-time satellite navigation. Previous attempts by the United States and other coalition countries in a similar way to stop the advancement of ISIS in Iraq did not produce a result: ISIL advanced very quickly and practically did not need logistical support, since Iraqi warehouses fell into their hands intact. And the tactics of small groups allowed igilovtsam to disperse when approaching the American bombers, as a result of which they bombed the previously planned, but already empty space.

An additional role was played by the “informal intelligence” of ISIS: US planes took off from airfields in the Gulf countries. And there, in the old manner, one could just sit in a coffee shop opposite the base and record every plane taking off. At the base in Latakia, you will not do that. Although she still has a weak spot: in theory, you can get to her from modern RZSO, which, thank God, ISIS does not possess.

According to data not officially confirmed, the Russian aviation and equipment can be located not only at the base in Latakia, but also at Batra airfield (south of Latakia along the seashore, not far from the city and port of Jeble), as well as two auxiliary naval bases in the vicinity of Tartus.

A few weeks of this kind of operations, and the supply of advanced parts of ISIL in the province of Idlib, around Aleppo, in the suburbs of Damascus and at Dair al-Zor will be disrupted. But all this time, as now, heavy ground battles will continue at several critical points. And one can successfully carry the ISIL’s logistic warehouses and chase caravans in the desert, but an almost bloodless Syrian government army must somehow hold important objects and locations.

In five years of war, government forces lost more than half of their armored vehicles, and the rest have a critical shortage of spare parts. But already in the battles in the suburb of Damascus Eastern Guta, the T-72AB tanks with a new dynamic defense were seen - more than modern weapons for Syria. But this is clearly not enough, and we can still talk about T-90, since only they are able to withstand the anti-tank systems that ISIS has.

Modern tanks are not a luxury, but a direct necessity. Government forces now face at least three immediate tasks. First: to drop the forces of ISIL and its allies from the eastern suburbs of Damascus. The second is to unlock the military base of Kuwaireis in the Aleppo area. Third: restore full control over the highway Damascus - Homs. There is a fourth, seemingly not directly related to the ISIS operation, but also extremely important for the overall course of military operations: to stop the offensive of the opposition forces on the government enclaves of al-Foy and Kafrai not far from the provincial capital Idlib.


What are the creators of the "Islamic State"

The air base of Kuwaireis has been blocked for almost three years, but until recently its garrison could somehow receive supplies. From the front line in the Aleppo area to the base, approximately 60 kilometers, but all attempts to break through the ISIL at Lake Jabbul failed precisely because of the lack of a sufficient number of modern armored vehicles.

The defense of Kuveiris has recently shown all the advantages of the equipment available to government forces, primarily Russian-made aircraft. It was with the help of aviation that the attempts to storm it with a few ISIS artillery were stopped time after time. There is reason to believe that strengthening the air component, along with the transfer of more modern armored vehicles for Aleppo, will finally enable unblocking the base, which, in turn, will mean the beginning of extrusion of ISIL on this front area into the desert.

The strategic route Damascus - Homs is currently cut in two places. But if the first problem area (about three kilometers) can still be bypassed, then in another area ISIS has seized several dominant heights. Knock them out without the use of artillery and helicopters is very difficult and fraught with heavy losses. The current number of Mi-24 is enough to conduct simultaneously only one operation. It’s not a fact that government troops have a sufficient number of trained pilots, but this is not a problem that cannot be solved precisely within the framework of an agreed coalition operation against ISIL.

The fighting in the densely populated eastern suburbs of Damascus took on the nature of a war of annihilation about a month ago, when government forces launched an unsuccessful attempt at a counter-offensive. Most likely, this attack was more political than planned from a military point of view. As a result, the government army withdrew from Eastern Guta and the Duma with heavy losses. Meanwhile, it is precisely this region that can be considered the basis for organizing a general counterattack on the Palmyra region, which could, in principle, turn the tide of military operations against ISIL in Syria. Now ISIS has pulled its most combat-ready forces into these quarters, so that the offensive of government forces is possible only with a considerable advantage. Presumably, it is in this region that modern types of Russian weapons can arrive, the same T-90.

But such an advantage will not be enough to attack Palmyra in an organized and quick manner. Between the suburbs of Damascus and Palmyra - a bare desert with several roads and strategic intersections. Probably the only stronghold here is the oasis of Al-Cartiayn. These are almost ideal conditions for the landing of troops with the aim of cutting off large ISIS forces gathered in the suburbs of Damascus. Such an operation is possible again in the presence of amphibious vehicles, including transport aircraft, helicopters, and special armored vehicles. When conducting such or similar operations, there is simply no alternative to the Russian military equipment.

The situation around the suburbs of Damascus with the prospect of Palmyra is the key to all possible operations against ISIS. The main burden is borne and will be borne by the Syrian government troops, but they must be sufficiently prepared for the use of modern technology and the use of previously unfamiliar tactics, in particular the landing of air assault forces and the use of helicopters for assault operations. And if Syrian troops have long been accustomed to street fighting and holding the front, such operations will require additional training and equipment.

But still, the main thing for determining the size of Russian military supplies to Syria and, most importantly, its quality and nomenclature should be the development of a holistic plan for a coalition operation against ISIS. There is a high probability of a planning error at the stage of obtaining intelligence data, or, even worse, an excessive enthusiasm for top tactical tasks under pressure from purely political factors. Now there is still a chance not to give ISIS, while it is in a strategically vulnerable position, to regroup and again change tactics. And this, as experience has shown, is fast.
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  1. sl22277
    sl22277 26 September 2015 06: 27 New
    +8
    Syria was a regular buyer of Russian weapons. I agree with the author: ISIL must be defeated by destroying its columns and bases, and oil trading. Dobal also needs to control the borders of Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan in order to cut off the flow of weapons and human reserves from there.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 06: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: sl22277
      . Dobal also needs to control the borders of Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan

      In these countries there is no ISIS yet, they help and sponsor other scumbags of Al Nusra and other trash.
      ISIS itself is already impossible to defeat. ISIS is not just a bunch of terrorists, it is a new idea that the Arabs support. Because they have large human resources. How many of them were killed, but only more are put.
      1. Erg
        Erg 26 September 2015 07: 43 New
        +2
        Then you need to buy them
        1. Slobber
          Slobber 26 September 2015 08: 05 New
          -2
          Then you need to buy them

          So do it.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 08: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Erg
          Then you need to buy them

          Americans already bought, now they are very pleased to cut them
          1. mihasik
            mihasik 26 September 2015 12: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Americans already bought, now they are very pleased to cut them

            And most importantly, for their own money))
          2. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 26 September 2015 19: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Americans already bought, now they are very pleased to cut them

            Do they cut them? They are waiting, they won’t wait when Assad will fall off their brainchild, everything else doesn’t matter.
            And the author is a chatterbox, precisely that chatterbox that is a godsend for a spy.
        3. Cherdak
          Cherdak 26 September 2015 18: 18 New
          0
          Quote: Erg
          Then you need to buy them


          On Monday-Tuesday, let's see how Barack will respond to the proposal of GDP.

          Maybe even like this:

          [media = http: //coub.com/view/5mqjm]
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 26 September 2015 21: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        ISIS itself is already impossible to defeat. ISIS is not just a bunch of terrorists, it's a new idea that Arabs support.

        ... they say and do not set such a task. The main thing is to inflict a quick military defeat, to drive into the framework and force to recognize the dictated rules of the game.
        Those. - "decapitate", drive away from important territories, lead in the leadership of the "moderate and sane." They say this is possible, because the military leadership is entirely the Iraqi officers of Saddam, including those who studied at our military schools ...

        Then the beginning of these movements -
        Russia, Syria, Iraq and Iran have created an Information Center to coordinate the fight against the Islamic State. This was reported by a military-diplomatic source.

        “The Russian Federation, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Republic of Iraq and the Islamic Republic of Iran have decided to open an Information Center in Baghdad, which will include representatives of the general staffs of these states,” a military-diplomatic source said.

        The main function of this structure will be the collection, processing, synthesis and analysis of current information on the situation in the Middle East region in the context of the fight against the Islamic State, its distribution according to its purpose, and prompt transmission to the general headquarters of these countries.

        The information center will be headed by officers of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Republic of Iraq and the Islamic Republic of Iran for three months on a rotational basis. In accordance with the agreements reached, the Iraqi side will take over the management of the information center in the next three months.

        “The creation of an information center, of course, is an important step towards combining the efforts of the countries of the region in the fight against international terrorism and, above all, with the Islamic State,” the source said.

        The successful activities of the center in the near future will create the conditions for the formation of a coordination committee on its basis with the aim of planning operations and commanding the units of the armed forces of Russia, Syria, Iraq and Iran, fighting against the "Islamic State".
    2. Egor65g
      Egor65g 26 September 2015 10: 48 New
      -10
      Syria was a regular recipient of Russian weapons. Buying involves transferring money to the seller.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 26 September 2015 12: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Egor65G
        Syria was a regular recipient of Russian weapons. Buying involves transferring money to the seller.

        The Russian Federation and Syria have an agreement on this issue. But in order to continue to receive money in full under this agreement, Syria must be a state, which Israel actively prevents from bombing the Syrian army and helping the thugs of the “Assad opposition”.
        So, at least in this matter, Israel is at least not a friend to us and not a “partner,” as Putin likes to put it.
        The war in the war on the hands of ISIS is an attempt to cut off the Russian Federation from gas and oil supplies to the EU by redistributing energy flows. Isn't that obvious?
        So the war will be exhausted, long and bloody.
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 26 September 2015 12: 41 New
          -8
          As I know: In May of 2005, Russia wrote off Syria $ 9,782 billion from $ 13,4 billion of debt to Syria. In turn, Damascus undertook to purchase Russian weapons and modernize the armored vehicles delivered in Soviet times.
          Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2364889
          That is, in addition to promises, in Russia they have not seen a single Syrian penny since the time of the union. And the IDF is bombing convoys of Russian weapons heading for Hezbollah bases in Lebanon.
        2. atalef
          atalef 26 September 2015 13: 02 New
          -6
          Quote: mihasik
          Russia and Syria have an agreement on this

          Which one? About giving? laughing
          Quote: mihasik
          But in order to receive further money in full under this agreement, Syria must be a state

          And before, when Syria was a state, what prevented paying? Or Russia wrote off 10 billion debts, where did they get them from?
          Quote: mihasik
          So, at least in this matter, Israel is at least not a friend to us and not a “partner

          And in honor of what should we be partners in Assad? He kind of attacked us 5 times
          1. teascher
            teascher 26 September 2015 13: 17 New
            +3
            When did you manage to attack, already 5 times? Impudent lie!
            1. Professor
              Professor 26 September 2015 13: 28 New
              -5
              Quote: teascher
              When did you manage to attack, already 5 times? Impudent lie!

              I support. The most impudent lie. In fact, he attacked hundreds of times. Here are some examples:
              .
              2014 year

              October 30. Israeli troops were shelled on the border with Syria, near the Kuneitra checkpoint. No harm done. Apparently, this is a random shelling of Israeli territory.

              October 21. Accidental shelling of Israeli territory. A mortar shell exploded in the northern Golan Heights near the border with Syria. No one was hurt and no damage was done.

              September 17th. Accidental shelling of Israeli territory. A mortar shell exploded in a minefield in the northern part of the Golan Heights.

              September 15th. Another shelling of Israeli territory. The shell exploded near the border crossing "Kuneitra".

              12-th of September. An accidental shelling of Israeli territory from Syria was recorded. There are no injuries.

              11 September. Defense ministry construction contractors who worked near the border fence in the Golan Heights reported being fired from Syria. No injuries.

              8 September. In the north of the Golan Heights, near the border with Syria, an Israeli soldier was wounded in the leg.

              4 September. The shell exploded in the northern part of the Golan Heights. No harm done. IDF artillery retaliated against Syrian army positions.

              September 2. The gun crew of the First Channel of Israeli Television came under fire. No harm done. In the evening, on the Golan Heights, in the vicinity of the village of Tel Hazek, 2 mortar shells fired from Syria. There are no injuries.

              September 1. Another mortar attack from Syria. The shell exploded in the Golan Heights. No harm done.
              .
              1. anti-Semite
                anti-Semite 26 September 2015 15: 46 New
                +9
                Syria will become a Wahhabi caliphate then you will live in peace and friendship)))))))
              2. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 26 September 2015 17: 01 New
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                September 1. Another mortar attack from Syria

                I think it may be provocations of the opposition or other Mujahideen.
                In fact, whether you love Syria or not, this is a separate issue and your personal matter
                1. alone
                  alone 26 September 2015 18: 43 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  I think it may be provocations of the opposition or other Mujahideen.

                  What for? Do you think the Opps or Mujahideen are completely idiots? Israel rolls them up in 24 hours. They won’t be in ceremony. They don’t rock the boat against Israel. They don’t need the Israeli front.
                  And shelling is most likely a mere coincidence. This often happens during hostilities.
                  1. anti-Semite
                    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 19: 07 New
                    +3
                    accident in what? the Syrian army pinches the bearded, the bearded launch a mine on the Jews, and those "in response" beat the military in the bottom line, Jews like defended militants go on the offensive and the military of the government army suffer
                    1. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 19: 17 New
                      -4
                      Only for some reason, the bearded launch a mine from the location of Assad’s troops.
                    2. alone
                      alone 26 September 2015 20: 01 New
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                      Quote: anti-Semite
                      accident in what?


                      Anti-Semite, did you serve in the army? Or a participant in some kind of armed conflict? Judging by the question, I understand that in military affairs you don’t know anything. An error with a tip of 0,001 sometimes leads to indescribable consequences.

                      Quote: anti-Semite
                      Syrian army pinches bearded


                      Are you familiar with the map of military operations in Syria? According to the map, more than half of the territory is under the control of the bearded. The army does not squeeze along the entire front, but in separate areas. The bearded do the same in other areas.
                      1. anti-Semite
                        anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 24 New
                        0
                        so why did you wave the hammer on the military ?!
              3. svd-xnumx
                svd-xnumx 26 September 2015 18: 58 New
                +2
                border fence in the Golan Heights
                In the north of the Golan Heights, near the border with Syria
                The shell exploded in the northern part of the Golan Heights.
                And it’s nothing that the Golan Heights Israel, as it’s fashionable to say, annexed to Syria
                Golan Heights (Hebrew רָמַת הַגוֹלָן, Arabic. هضبة الجولان) is a disputed territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel. From 1944 to 1967, it was part of the Syrian province of Quneitra, captured by Israel during the Six Day War.

                In 1981, the Israeli Knesset passed the Golan Heights Act, where Israel unilaterally proclaimed the sovereignty of Israel over this territory. The annexation was invalidated by UN Security Council Resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981.

                Both Israel and Syria consider the Golan Heights part of their territory.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 26 September 2015 19: 00 New
                  -3
                  Quote: svd-xnumx
                  And it’s nothing that the Golan Heights Israel, as it’s fashionable to say, annexed to Syria

                  And is it nothing that Syria has repeatedly attacked Israel before? What is taken in battle is holy.
                2. Egor65g
                  Egor65g 26 September 2015 19: 18 New
                  -5
                  Quote: svd-xnumx
                  And it’s nothing that the Golan Heights Israel, as it’s fashionable to say, annexed to Syria

                  This is normal yes
                  1. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 26 September 2015 19: 22 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Egor65G
                    This is normal

                    Well then, it’s normal in Abkhazia with South Ossetia and in Karabakh and in the Donbas
                    1. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 19: 27 New
                      -5
                      What I don’t know, I don’t know. I know that from the Golan Heights, when they were near Syria, a long-term shelling of the Israeli territory was carried out.
                      Was it the same in South Ossetia and Karabakh and the Donbass? I do not know.
                      1. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 27 September 2015 10: 22 New
                        0
                        Quote: Egor65G
                        and in the Donbass it was the same?

                        In particular, in the Donbass, from the Sands, they fired on the city,
                        as soon as the “peace enforcement” operations began, they began to complain about the violation of the Minsk agreements
                      2. Egor65g
                        Egor65g 27 September 2015 10: 30 New
                        0
                        You know, for me this is a very sore subject. I do not want to touch her. There is a fratricidal war, and who unleashed it, not for me to judge, from afar.
                  2. Kaiten
                    Kaiten 26 September 2015 20: 56 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Pilat2009
                    Well then, it’s normal in Abkhazia with South Ossetia and in Karabakh and in the Donbas

                    Recognize the Golan and transfer the embassy to Jerusalem, then we will recognize your republics.
                    1. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 27 New
                      +2
                      can even grow paisys and replace Orthodoxy with Judaism? it is still a question who for Russia is the greater enemy of the Isis or Israel
                    2. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 21: 32 New
                      -2
                      Hehehe))) If only you all wouldn’t start screaming in a chorus of "Alah Wakbar" laughing
                    3. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 46 New
                      +3
                      at one time they tried to drive Alla to a bar in the Caucasus badly, it ended for them as for the Saudi army officer nicknamed “Khattab” neither infantry from Ukraine nor weapons from Georgia nor night vision devices from Israel helped
                    4. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 03 New
                      -3
                      Dadad ... I saw the last Kurban Bayram in your capital.
                    5. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 08 New
                      +1
                      So what ? we are a multinational country, a lot of faith, Muslims and I have been living together for hundreds of years, and the fact that there are 15 Muslims in 100 million Moscow is normal, your people in hats with pats purim in Red Square are celebrating and no one is indignant even though yours are just arrived in Moscow if not mistaken 5 synagogues
                    6. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 13 New
                      0
                      So fraternize in the square with both those and these.
                    7. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 20 New
                      0
                      I don’t intend to fraternize on religious grounds, but when, as an argument against Russian Muslims, they start giving me an example of holidays in Moscow, this raises questions, you don’t like mosques, I’m not happy with synagogues
                    8. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 31 New
                      -1
                      You already decide. Either you write ala to the bar, then suddenly you talk about religious soil. For example, I don’t like mosques or synagogues. You re-read the thread from the beginning. It seems that you do not know what to argue with me about and rush from right to left.
                    9. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 44 New
                      +1
                      not all Muslims who are stubborn fanatics the Syrian army consists of Muslims in Chechnya are now at peace Muslims when last year bandits tried to launch a terrorist act killed many policemen all Chechens Muslims Tatars of the Bashkirs are our fellow citizens who are stubborn but it’s just not typical for our country in Unlike Catholicism, Orthodoxy was not marked by either the Inquisition or the Crusades, and traditional Islam has nothing to do with Arab Wahhabism.
                    10. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 49 New
                      0
                      I do not argue. I was born and raised among Muslims. And many of my Muslim friends. But we are not talking about them. The Muslim world is now at a crossroads, and the tone in it, to my great regret, is set not by rational people, but by fanatical obscurantists.
                    11. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 23: 02 New
                      +1
                      from the fact that at one time European Christians flew off the coils and made bloody hell, Christianity did not cease to be a teaching of goodness and tolerance. Russia's traditional Islam has always been based on good neighborliness and hospitality in our country women were not wrapped in a veil and wearing a beard was a private matter for everyone in the trench WWII Tatar sat next to a Russian and a Buryat and no one shared each other by faith and nation
                    12. Egor65g
                      Egor65g 26 September 2015 23: 14 New
                      0
                      You absolutely do not know the story. Absolutely. In World War II, no one really shared one another by faith and nation. Therefore, they won. And now, you’ve chosen a nickname for yourself in the subject. And you dare to babble something about the friendship of peoples.
                    13. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 23: 23 New
                      0
                      I respect all ROOT people and their religions, but the Jews for our country are strangers like, say, Africans or Indians, why should I treat you like that in a special way, especially considering how much your evil has brought to my country and continue to bring even now?
                  3. far
                    far 27 September 2015 02: 49 New
                    -1
                    They also ate a couple of lard, in the war it was not up to sentiment.
  2. Kaiten
    Kaiten 26 September 2015 21: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: anti-Semite
    can even grow paisys and replace Orthodoxy with Judaism? it is still a question who for Russia is the greater enemy of the Isis or Israel


    Then there is no need to raise the issue of recognizing your pocket republics.
  3. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 43 New
    0
    and who raised it? the government doesn’t even discuss it, and to me your recognition as a hare is a stop signal
  4. Kaiten
    Kaiten 26 September 2015 21: 45 New
    -1
    Quote: anti-Semite
    hare stop signal

    Then there is nothing to get into my conversation with Pilat2009
  5. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 55 New
    +3
    you are most dear in the Russian-language segment of the Internet on a Russian website, while obviously not a Russian by nationality and judging by the flag a citizen of a foreign country, maybe you do not know but the constitution of my country gives me freedom of speech, which means I will write what I want and where I want in accordance with forum rules so don’t tell me what to do and I won’t tell you on which body I turned your opinion
  6. Kaiten
    Kaiten 26 September 2015 22: 01 New
    -1
    Quote: anti-Semite
    i will write

    write, handsome, who limits you. Only when you get into someone else’s conversation, and then you write that this conversation is like a stop signal to a hare, is this only a vivid demonstration of your psychological instability.
  7. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 17 New
    -5
    You, dear, are now in the network created by the CIA. And your computer is not Russian, and software. Now, when you create in yourself, how is it, Cheburgen? -Close it from the whole world, and it will be to you more often.
  8. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 25 New
    0
    in the same second, how do you and other countries stop using satellites and navigation systems, I will drop my computer and mobile) did the network create the CIA? a satellite invented in the USSR, a mobile phone a state invention? satellite navigation (jeepies, glonas) is based on the Soviet navigation system created for the needs of the air force, a computer, by the way, is Chinese and we have normal relations
  9. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 36 New
    -1
    Quote: anti-Semite
    satellite invented in the USSR

    Bgyyy ... And the fire? Was fire invented in the USSR too?
    A computer in China you just collected. Is there no money for a normal computer? Swell less in Arabs. You look and pull the road and pull the medicine. And then one of the Kabzon patriots (a Jew by the way) does not want to be treated at home.
  10. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 49 New
    +1
    there’s no fire, but the artificial earth satellite is a Soviet invention, by the way, the first in the history of mankind Kobzon orbital station an opportunist and a hypocrite, roads thank gods have recently improved significantly, in any case, for the better, changes are visible with medicine
  11. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 55 New
    0
    Listen, we are a little distracted from the topic. You understand, I'm not against Russian weapons. I am against Russian weapons at Hezbollah bases. And I don’t need to talk about inventions, it's ridiculous ...
  12. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 23: 05 New
    0
    open my eyes! probably the first satellite was launched by the states and the Italian flew into space, that's why Kiselev! zombie completely! American weapons from Sunni militants I look you do not bother
  13. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 23: 24 New
    0
    I'm interested in any weapons that fall into the hands of Islamic fans. American or Russian - it can be directed at me. On me personally. And who will keep it, Sunnis, Shiites, Salafis, etc., I am deeply indifferent, I do not understand the varieties of feces. Hezbalah shot me exclusively with Russian weapons.
    And yes, you are seriously bitten by the televisor and Kiselyov personally.
  14. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 23: 40 New
    0
    clearly the first satellite was launched by the states and the first astronaut was the gagarin, that’s Kiselev’s scoundrel! maybe it was not necessary to climb into Lebanon? if your Saudi shove them shtatovskim throw what will you say? hezbollah defended its land and its home whose weapon it was question ten, at one time the soldiers of the Red Army used Wehrmacht trophy weapons and so what? Lebanon was threatened by the prospect of either losing part of its territory like Syria in the Golan, or even sharing the fate of Gaza.
  15. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 23: 45 New
    0
    Quote: anti-Semite
    hezbollah defended its land and its home

    Well, what am I talking about. You are not in the topic. Who attacked Lebanon that needed to be defended? And you also tell me something about Kisilev. Do you even know where the children come from?
  16. Cat man null
    Cat man null 26 September 2015 23: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: anti-Semite
    changes for the better are visible with medicine

    Forgive me for violating your tête-à-tête .. but here you are a little skidded, dear ..

    IMHO.
  17. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 23: 41 New
    0
    Join me, I do not mind.
  18. Cat man null
    Cat man null 26 September 2015 23: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Egor65G
    Join me, I do not mind

    Yes, I, in fact, about medicine ..

    But your position is

    Quote: Egor65G
    I'm interested in any weapon that falls into the hands of Islamic fans. American or Russian - it can be directed at me. On me personally

    - I completely understand, and this is a completely sound position. Unless, of course, Israel is considered a fiend of hell (as some here apparently seem to think), and you do not attribute all the problems of the Russian Federation to the "machinations of international Zionism."

    I am somehow inclined to look for more .. rational explanations what
  19. Egor65g
    Egor65g 26 September 2015 23: 54 New
    0
    So it’s convenient to empty-headed. Who is to blame-jYdy-and nothing needs to be done.
  20. Cat man null
    Cat man null 27 September 2015 00: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Egor65G
    So it’s convenient to empty-headed. Who is to blame-jYdy-and nothing needs to be done.

    You know, I have Jewish acquaintances (both Tatars, and Armenians, and many others). Even two guys from Western Ukraine belay

    It’s normal people, we communicate wonderfully.

    I personally knew only one thing - he now controls the Alpha Group. We studied .. almost together, let’s say so. This one is unsympathetic to me .. although he doesn’t care, of course request
  21. Egor65g
    Egor65g 27 September 2015 00: 25 New
    +1
    I was born and raised in blessed Kyrgyzstan, in which, in respect and friendship, 129 peoples once lived. And no one paid attention to nationality. And such little people as anti-Semite were, are and will be in any nation. And there’s nothing you can do. The only thing that pleases is they are sitting in their own sage and do not affect anything.
  22. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 27 September 2015 00: 42 New
    0
    how to say, some danced on the swamp and someone came to the polls and checked the right box, the seas were filled drop by drop and stones grew together on the grains of sand, I can change something and I’m made anti-Semite by gelmans and goizman Shenderovich and Makarevich bulk and shatz and cave Russophobia reigning in Israel if you hate me my people my country that prevents me from reciprocating
  23. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 27 September 2015 00: 19 New
    0
    who blames you? rather, your maniacal desire to turn a secular state with a ban on religious parties into a Salafi cancer tumor with modern weapons and sixteenth-century thinking
  24. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 23: 47 New
    0
    in your region it is possible in our muhosk on a small provincial town 2 MRI devices plus a new onco center plus new diagnostic equipment in all medical institutions and I live 1500 km from Moscow
  25. Cat man null
    Cat man null 26 September 2015 23: 53 New
    0
    Quote: anti-Semite
    provincial town, 2 MRI devices plus a new oncology center plus new diagnostic equipment in all medical institutions

    It's good. The only question is how many inhabitants are in the "town".

    Quote: anti-Semite
    2 MRI devices

    Paid, stopudovo .. free of charge - the turn for a couple of months .. and not for everyone.

    Quote: anti-Semite
    all medical institutions have new diagnostic equipment

    Again, a matter of accessibility.

    And MRI, new equipment .. you know, the technique doesn’t stand still, it should once have appeared in our country too ..
  26. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 27 September 2015 00: 17 New
    0
    in the direction of the doctor, it’s free and with a queue for about a week, it’s possible to pay for MRI then I didn’t recognize the price instantly; I won’t lie; I’ll examine the stomach and a colonoscopy can be done just as free; 650r a friend in the cancer center checked the stomach a light bulb swallowed there were 800r without a biopsy I don’t know a colonoscopy something about 1000 r is also a biopsy demon, the population is 85 199 if Wikipedia is not lying
  27. Cat man null
    Cat man null 27 September 2015 00: 20 New
    0
    Quote: anti-Semite
    .

    Well, I can only envy .. although I live 15 kilometers from the Moscow Ring Road, not 1500 request

    We do not have such beauty yet. And not foreseen, the campaign.
  28. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 27 September 2015 00: 31 New
    -1
    not quite beauty, the qualifications of doctors are not perfect and complex analyzes are sent to the capital of the region, but if you compare with what was 5 years ago, there are changes and they are for the better though a lot of things need to be done and there are few beds in the cancer center for such a population considering that he one to the district center but before and it wasn’t and now there is with the operating department of chemo and radiation therapy http://gbb56.ru/pages/onkologicheskoe-otdelenie-i-operblok
  • mihasik
    mihasik 26 September 2015 21: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    No harm done

    It’s strange how did the Syrians fight ISIS then? As not shelling Israel, so no one was hurt. And the funniest thing is, they so want to open a second front with these shellings? Is it boring to fight with one ISIS?) Or is there nowhere to put the BC?)
    Do you believe in this crap?
    Maybe the hummingbird shells and the plant that produced them, tell me which shell?
    And it’s not your friends from Al Nusra who, by agreement, create “noise” for the media about aggressive Assad? Not?)
    After 9/11, I’m not surprised at anything).
  • ZAGOD
    ZAGOD 28 September 2015 13: 06 New
    0
    If this is considered an attack, then Ukraine also attacked us several times, and there were victims!
  • Camel
    Camel 28 September 2015 23: 03 New
    0
    I apologize, but doesn’t it seem strange that for 10 (TEN !!!) attacks on Israeli territory no one was hurt? Well, except for the wounded leg ...

    Does Syria have any particularly humane gunners? For ten attempts with a zero result, they can put it to the wall. This is if there were attempts, but if there were none .. It turns out very conveniently - both everyone is safe and the neighboring state has something to blame. And even if the fact of the provocation is revealed, there are no corpses, which means there is no case (criminal).

    I see someone's strength in this! (c) Master Yoda
  • anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 15: 45 New
    +3
    Do all Jews have a habit of counting other people's money or is it just your fault?
  • Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 26 September 2015 19: 27 New
    0
    Quote: mihasik
    The war in the war on the hands of ISIS is an attempt to cut off the Russian Federation from gas and oil supplies to the EU by redistributing energy flows. Isn't that obvious?

    If such goals are pursued by ISIS lovers, then, apparently, they have lost their last brains. After all, the war will go on there for a long time. It’s like in Afghanistan: when there were Soviet troops - they fought against them, when they left, they fought with each other. So in the territories controlled by ISIS, whether Syria will be defeated (God forbid, of course) or not, there will be a war of all against all. The usual practice of Americans is to get involved in a fight with the wrong hands, and then we'll see, we are far beyond the ocean, we will not be anything.
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 September 2015 13: 52 New
    +3
    Quote: sl22277
    Dobal also needs to control the borders of Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan in order to cut off the flow of weapons and human reserves from there.

    It is impossible to destroy ISIS, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra until the main centers from which they are controlled by the United States and Israel cease to support terrorists, fanatics and fascists around the world.
  • alone
    alone 26 September 2015 18: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: sl22277
    Dobal also needs to control the borders of Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan in order to cut off the flow of weapons and human reserves from there.

    In fact, control over the borders is actually poyoryany. In addition to a small section of the Lebanese border. The Turkish border is completely lost. Jordan also. In addition to ISIS fully holds the Iraqi-Syrian border. Understanding what border control means for each group, it will be extremely difficult. But the return trip as they say no. As long as the borders are uncontrolled, talking about a fractal, to put it mildly amateurism.
  • Oman 47
    Oman 47 26 September 2015 07: 01 New
    +7
    Hacking the financial foundation of ISIS is oil trading.
    1. Slobber
      Slobber 26 September 2015 10: 47 New
      -6
      Hacking the financial foundation of ISIS is oil trading.

      How do you imagine that? How is this possible without prejudice to the Russian economy and political influence?
      1. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 26 September 2015 19: 37 New
        0
        Quote: razgildyay
        Hacking the financial foundation of ISIS is oil trading.

        How do you imagine that? How is this possible without prejudice to the Russian economy and political influence?

        My dear man, are you by any chance not a supporter of ISIS? According to what you are not negotiating, it follows that until we touch ISIS, everything will be on the ointment, as it is now, right? But it does not occur to you that the destruction of the black market for cheap oil from ISIS will dramatically raise oil prices. It will be difficult to destroy, of course, but it will also make this business more risky and prices will rise anyway. And the influence, it will only increase, in those countries that are against ISIS in practice, and not in words.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 26 September 2015 19: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: Starley from the South
          the destruction of the black market for cheap oil from ISIS will sharply raise oil prices

          ISIL's oil production is ~ 350 000 barrels per day
          World oil production ~ 85 000 000 barrels per day

          Thus, ISIS produces 0.41% of global oil production.

          Less than 1 / 200, in translation.

          Quote: Starley from the South
          the destruction of the black market for cheap oil from ISIS will sharply raise oil prices

          This is unlikely .. (c)
          1. atalef
            atalef 26 September 2015 20: 19 New
            -4
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            ISIL's oil production is ~ 350 000 barrels per day
            World oil production ~ 85 000 000 barrels per day

            86 million barrels per day - world production
            LIH
            The main donors of ISIS until recently were the Gulf countries, but the seizure of oil fields in Syria and Iraq with the aim of reselling oil allowed the militants to start financing their activities on their own. According to estimates by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Syria is now “under the control of rebels and tribes and is producing about 60 barrels per day,
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 26 September 2015 20: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Syria is now “under the control of rebels and tribes and is producing about 60 000 barrels per day

              Anything less than one percent of world production, therefore, once again:

              Quote: Starley from the South
              the destruction of the black market for cheap oil from ISIS will sharply raise oil prices

              - will not lift. Especially "sharply".

              I'm talking about it exactly yes
    2. mihasik
      mihasik 26 September 2015 12: 23 New
      -3
      Quote: Oman 47
      Hack ISIS financial backbone - oil trading

      I wonder how? Take the money from the Turks?)
  • slizhov
    slizhov 26 September 2015 07: 30 New
    +2
    I think that no one already has any doubts that the Syrian government troops are preparing with the participation of Russia such a jump that will wipe the nose of all Obama on the planet ...
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 26 September 2015 07: 30 New
    +2
    Well, what is the ISIS’s “modest” like, having designated the territories on which they want to settle? belay angry
    To the South and North Poles there is quite a bit left ... It's a pity there is no emoticon depicting FIG.
    Yes, by the way, and WHERE US, why "not covered" benefactors?? laughing
  • Professor
    Professor 26 September 2015 07: 41 New
    +5
    Russian weapons can help Syria defeat ISIS

    Money for fish again? Ideology cannot be defeated by weapons. Until those who struggle with Isil understand this, they will not be able to defeat the Islamic State.

    PS
    The Islamists are armed very simply: DShK on Toyotas. It was with these weapons that they disarmed the Iraqi divisions armed with artillery, aircraft and armored vehicles.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 26 September 2015 08: 00 New
      +7
      Quote: Professor
      Ideology cannot be defeated by weapons.

      Hello Mr. Profesor, what about Ukraine and its Maidan ideology? Where did all this go? It is no secret, after all, that the whole ideology of Maidan rested on financial revenues from abroad, which were brought to Boryspil by containers. And as financial injections ceased, then the whole ideology of the Maidan, crackled at the seams.
      Just a classic of the genre, and nothing new.

      The majority in Isil fight just not for ideology, but for money; There is a minority of ideologically minded people there.
      It is enough to knock the soil from under the feet of these ideologically minded suckers, and everything will fall into place.
      Please note that periodically there are reports of the killing of the Imams in the Caucasus, thus extremists are knocking out the ground under our Muslims' feet.
      What prevents them from doing the same thing is only so cunning that they themselves do it themselves.
      So to speak, that would be the students of their teachers.
      1. Professor
        Professor 26 September 2015 08: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Sirocco
        The majority in Isil fight just not for ideology, but for money; There is a minority of ideologically minded people there.

        Most? Did you interview them? I closely monitor the affairs of the Israeli Arabs who have joined Daesh. None of them did it for money. For ideological reasons only. Europeans who join Daysh also do this not for money, but because of ideology.

        Quote: Sirocco
        It is enough to knock the soil from under the feet of these ideologically minded suckers, and everything will fall into place.

        What soil? Why is the Daesh ideology attractive?

        Quote: Sirocco
        What prevents them from doing the same thing is only so cunning that they themselves do it themselves.

        Yeah. You will begin to cut out the muftis and are glad that Daysh will be replenished by those who today did not even think about it.
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 26 September 2015 08: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          Professor (7) Today, 08: 10 ↑ New
          Quote: Sirocco
          The majority in Isil fight just not for ideology, but for money; There is a minority of ideologically minded people there.
          Most? Did you interview them? I closely monitor the affairs of the Israeli Arabs who have joined Daesh. None of them did it for money. For ideological reasons only. Europeans who join Daysh also do this not for money, but because of ideology.

          In Chechnya, ISIL’s girls were bred for money like suckers. SK even started a business on them lol Money, it's all about them.
          1. Professor
            Professor 26 September 2015 08: 47 New
            +4
            Quote: Horst78
            Money, it's all about them.

            Not. How much money do you need to weigh yourself with explosives and blow yourself up in the bosom of infidels? Show me the one who does it for the money? wink

            Ideology is this.
            1. Horst78
              Horst78 26 September 2015 09: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Professor (7) Today, 08: 47 ↑ New
              Quote: Horst78
              Money, it's all about them.
              Not. How much money do you need to weigh yourself with explosives and blow yourself up in the bosom of infidels? Show me the one who does it for the money?

              Ideology is this.

              There are situations with ideology (in the correct sense), but there is a brainwashing. Do not confuse definitions. You are Professor lol . respectfully hi
              1. Professor
                Professor 26 September 2015 09: 06 New
                +7
                Quote: Horst78
                There are situations with ideology (in the correct sense), but there is a brainwashing. Do not confuse definitions. You are a professor. respectfully

                All this is ideology. Brainwashing is just a tool of any ideology.
                1. Horst78
                  Horst78 26 September 2015 09: 20 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  Professor (7) Today, 09: 06 ↑ New
                  Quote: Horst78
                  There are situations with ideology (in the correct sense), but there is a brainwashing. Do not confuse definitions. You are a professor. respectfully
                  All this is ideology. Brainwashing is just a tool of any ideology.

                  Take an interest in the development of how many "martyrs" We surrendered to the authorities in Russia.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 11: 08 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Horst78
                    Take an interest in the development of how many "martyrs" We surrendered to the authorities in Russia.

                    Better tell me how many have been blown up.
                    1. Horst78
                      Horst78 26 September 2015 13: 38 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov (4) Today, 11: 08 ↑ New
                      Quote: Horst78
                      Take an interest in the development of how many "martyrs" We surrendered to the authorities in Russia.
                      Better tell me how many have been blown up.

                      Yandex to help you
                2. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 26 September 2015 19: 57 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Professor
                  Brainwashing is just a tool of any ideology.

                  Brainwashing has nothing to do with ideology. And brainwashing appears when ideology ceases to be effective, and its adherents strive for the material, not the spiritual. It’s inconvenient even to explain such things to the Professor. recourse
            2. Sirocco
              Sirocco 26 September 2015 09: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              Not. How much money do you need to weigh yourself with explosives and blow yourself up in the bosom of infidels?

              How many?
              Sometimes not just a little, but sometimes the family will get some money, it all depends on the greed of the field commander.
              It was like that in Chechnya, if you don’t undermine, you will destroy your family.
              This is the ideology of the Islamists.
            3. Ramzaj99
              Ramzaj99 26 September 2015 10: 31 New
              +6
              Quote: Professor
              Money, it's all about them. No. How much money do you need to weigh yourself with explosives and blow yourself up in the bosom of infidels? Show me the one who does it for the money? Ideology is this.

              Do not dissemble the professor)) ...
              Without money, nothing is ever done. And in Israel, this is best known))))
              I'm not talking about stupidly buying cartridges.
              Recruiting, buying weapons, explosives, training recruits, their maintenance, ideological processing, stupid hawk, accommodation, paying for "specialists", preparing operations like the same suicide bombers, I doubt very much that anyone except ordinary soldiers of "meat" refuses money there) )))
              Professor ... this is a huge amount of money, it’s millions of bucks a day, if not tens of millions.
              There will be nothing financing.
              Now they are funded by EVERYTHING.
              Radical Islamists finance, finance those who have their interests there (Trade in stolen cultural property, slaves, drugs, weapons, free transit of anything, etc.)
              Funding countries, the same Israel and Saudi Arabia each have their own interests. And I am already silent about the United States, which has officially officially swollen five hundred million dollars and hundreds of tons of weapons in this war.
              1. Professor
                Professor 26 September 2015 10: 46 New
                -5
                Quote: Ramzaj99
                Without money, nothing is ever done. And in Israel, this is best known))))

                Yes? How much does a suicide bomber take for suicide?

                Quote: Ramzaj99
                Funding countries, the same Israel and Saudi Arabia each have their own interests.

                Congratulations to you, Mr. Lie. The Persian quilted jacket told you about Israel?
                1. Ramzaj99
                  Ramzaj99 26 September 2015 10: 50 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Professor
                  Yes? How much does a suicide bomber take for suicide?

                  According to some reports, a suicide bomber’s family receives enough to live comfortably for several years.
                  And do not forget about the preparation.
                  Put the idiot in the car and say go there .... This is the final phase, the end of the chain. And how much must be done to prepare all this, do not forget that all this is not so simple and not so cheap ....
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 11: 10 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Ramzaj99
                    According to some reports, a suicide bomber gets enough

                    In the Gaza Strip, a suicide bomber’s family has 400 bakery if it’s a man and 200 if a woman exploded. That's all the cookies.
                  2. tiheros
                    tiheros 26 September 2015 23: 11 New
                    0
                    About 10 years ago there was information that the loans were paid 1 million dollars to the families of the Shahmids from Palestine, if the memory of the Israeli media does not change.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 27 September 2015 07: 22 New
                      0
                      Quote: tiheros
                      About 10 years ago there was information that the loans were paid 1 million dollars to the families of the Shahmids from Palestine, if the memory of the Israeli media does not change.

                      There has never been such a thing. Saddam, the dead Hussein paid $ 25 each. Crazy money. They hanged Saddam and there was no money.
                      1. anti-Semite
                        anti-Semite 27 September 2015 13: 36 New
                        -1
                        Iraq is gone for one
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 26 September 2015 16: 55 New
                +4
                Quote: Ramzaj99
                Recruiting, buying weapons, explosives, training recruits, their maintenance, indoctrination, stupid hawk, accommodation, paying for "specialists", preparing operations like the same suicide bombers, I doubt very much that anyone except ordinary soldiers of "meat" refuses money there) )))
                - the wounded, presumably, they treat with a finger laughing The content of the field infirmary is also worth the money)))). Oil smuggling - there are those who sell this oil smuggling, and there are those who buy. The one who buys from ISIS is also fully funded and must have problems as a state supporting international terrorism. Without such funding for the ideology of ISIS, a handful of marginalized individuals will be exposed, nothing more. The rest of the "supportive" will support within their kitchen, no further. Listen to the "kitchen" - there are not such "ideologies" wandering around, the ideology of alozych just smokes neurally on the side of cannibalism.)))). It is large-scale financing that allows this ideology to become a real, system-level force.
                1. Thunderbolt
                  Thunderbolt 26 September 2015 17: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: aksakal
                  - the wounded, presumably, they treat with a finger
                  Chechens treated their own in Turkey, if the IG seized the infrastructure, then it’s not difficult to organize medical care, the tttttttttttttttt heavy people to Turkey, or maybe the Arabian corridor where they cure to a moderate degree in Jordan, and critical to Arabia, fuck ...
                  Quote: aksakal
                  there are those who buy. The one who buys from ISIS is also fully funded and must have problems as a state supporting international terrorism.
                  Yes, Turkish buys this oil, but it’s all the crumbs from Turkey’s actions to support the Islamic State. Maps of the separation of the camps of the international crews of the Islamic State, corridors through Turkish porous terminals (the contractor and customer are not important here, but the Chinese tape flickers at the gaze (the chain, comrades, Russian is beating, on a Russian plane, the fuel from Iran, attention, to all posts: in the sky an Iranian fighter (this is not hochmochki, I’m interested in understanding the Chinese track when IG is being chased. And at least in someone’s track. Who will answer ??? Questions I have!
                2. Ramzaj99
                  Ramzaj99 26 September 2015 23: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: aksakal
                  wounded, presumably, they treat with a finger

                  Yes, I agree in full))
                  I didn’t list a quarter where the grandmother went there.
                  All this ISIS is a colossal laundering of money.
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            5. cosmos111
              cosmos111 26 September 2015 12: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Not. How much money do you need to weigh yourself with explosives and blow yourself up in the bosom of infidels?



              agree proFF-here MAIN IDEOLOGY ...


              footage of a crying suicide bomber in northern Syria ...

              the commander of the detachment where the minor Jafar al-Tayar (ethnic Uzbek) fought, ordered him to sit in an armored car loaded with explosives and blow up the enemy’s object. with a tear in his eyes they shot a terrorist just a few minutes before the last order was executed, shows how scared he was when he was ordered to go to certain death, but nevertheless fulfilled the task ...
              1. Horst78
                Horst78 26 September 2015 13: 41 New
                +3
                Quote: cosmos111
                cosmos111 (6) Today, 12: 24 ↑ New
                Quote: Professor
                Not. How much money do you need to weigh yourself with explosives and blow yourself up in the bosom of infidels?


                agree proFF-here MAIN IDEOLOGY ...


                footage of a crying suicide bomber in northern Syria ...

                the commander of the detachment where the minor Jafar al-Tayar (ethnic Uzbek) fought, ordered him to sit in an armored car loaded with explosives and blow up the enemy’s object. terrorist with tears in his eyes filmed just a few minutes before the last order, shows how much he got scaredwhen he was ordered to go to certain death, but still completed the task.

                Here is the evidence for my words. He started to cry because he realized that something was being promoted to "nonsense." What did he do? Because relatives are hostages?
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                2. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 26 September 2015 15: 48 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Horst78
                  Because relatives are hostages?

                  they don’t write about relatives ...

                  here she’s not crying, smiling ... IDEOLOGY in the 1-M place ...
              2. GradusHuK
                GradusHuK 26 September 2015 22: 51 New
                +1
                There is a flock and a shepherd! Nothing new under the moon!
        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco 26 September 2015 09: 12 New
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          Most? Did you interview them?

          Igilovtsev did not ask, I do not communicate with such.
          Well, about the citizens of Ukraine, and heard a lot, and personally know, so to speak.
          And about the fact that all the color revolutions of recent decades were made at the expense of green candy wrappers, only the lazy did not write about it. And the State Department’s representatives themselves announced this openly.
          Quote: Professor
          What soil?

          What kind, Graceful, that you fell from the moon.
          Fertile Ideology.
          As in the case of sects in our country, as soon as the leader of the sect is closed, sectarians like sheep without a shepherd scatter around. see, sober up. In how.
          Quote: Professor
          Yeah. Start to cut

          It is necessary to pull the leader out of the raging crowd, the crowd becomes uncontrollable, and the people are scattered.
          Well, about the most important thing about cutting out, None of the representatives of Muslims in the Caucasus are satisfied with the jihad of the Igilovites.
          Quote: Professor
          replenish those who today did not even think about it.

          And so that this would not happen, it is necessary that this herd be literate and educated, so that society could just THINK and THINK. It is easy for an illiterate population to powder their brains. I will confess this topic.))))
          So, the Europeans who joined this Daishi do this from illiteracy, and not education.
          And again, they are promised heavenly blessings, virgins, and other blessings of the afterlife.
          And after that you want to say that they have no interest in material wealth?
          Well, the last thing about the Ukrainian scenario.
          There are those among my friends who admitted (one at least) that they jumped, jumped, shouted for money (nevertheless, his relatives were in Russia)
          But I thought that it would carry, as in a joke, they say a hundred rubles to the kingdom, and I’ll wash myself off. But not everyone succeeded. So here, there are such and those. But everyone has a mind on how to make money.
          1. Professor
            Professor 26 September 2015 09: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Sirocco
            As in the case of sects in our country, as soon as the leader of the sect is closed, sectarians like sheep without a shepherd scatter around. see, sober up. In how.

            Quote: Sirocco
            It is necessary to pull the leader out of the raging crowd, the crowd becomes uncontrollable, and the people are scattered.

            Oh, how interesting. Is there a leader in Daisha? wink

            Quote: Sirocco
            And so that this would not happen, it is necessary that this herd be literate and educated, so that society could just THINK and THINK. It is easy for an illiterate population to powder their brains. I will confess this topic.))))

            Well, finally, we are approaching the real means of combating obscurantism. In the Islamic state of Iran, more than 10 million adults are illiterate (they cannot write and read). The result is obvious. Same thing with Daesh.

            Quote: Sirocco
            So, the Europeans who joined this Daishi do this from illiteracy, and not education.
            And again, they are promised heavenly blessings, virgins, and other blessings of the afterlife.
            And after that you want to say that they have no interest in material wealth?

            The afterlife is not material wealth. This is again an ideology.
            hi
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 26 September 2015 09: 35 New
              +6
              Quote: Professor
              The afterlife is not material wealth. This is again an ideology.

              Well, tell this to someone else. laughing
              There was a neighbor on the street, so he was considered the Leader in his sect, and their flocks gathered for tea to them, each brought something with him for tea, and there were about 20 of them in this cell. We can say that this Leader did not go to the store so often laughing
              But with ideology, he was all right, he worked it all out, and so they tried to give the last, there was a woman who tried to unsubscribe the apartment, she talked relatives out of it. This is the ideology for the herd, but the shepherd has only material things.
              PS
              The woman who tried to unsubscribe the apartment to the brothers from Australia, all the same, pursued not the ideological interest that was present, but the commercial one, maybe they would move to the brothers in Australia. In how. So how do you like it?
              Now let's touch on our former fellow citizens from the USSR who migrated to Israel in the early 90s and not only. Is this also for ideological reasons, or not? Or are there mercantile interests? laughing
        3. mihasik
          mihasik 26 September 2015 12: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Most? Did you interview them? I closely monitor the affairs of the Israeli Arabs who have joined Daesh. None of them did it for money. For ideological reasons only. Europeans who join Daysh also do this not for money, but because of ideology.

          How much of this "majority" have you calculated and how? Was the survey carried out or was it considered by the heads when they were tracked in Israeli clinics?
      2. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 26 September 2015 19: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Sirocco
        Most in Isil, they’re fighting not just for ideology, but for money,

        It is possible, because ISIS ideologists trumpet ideology at every corner they reach. But they will not repeat that they pay their fighters big money, and they don’t give a damn about the ideology. Therefore, if you block the financial flows to ISIS, the army of the latter, although it will be reduced, but more importantly another, will not receive ammunition, new equipment and weapons. And Americans can cut off ISIS funding, but they will never do that. But this is elementary: if ISIS is based on ideology, but on hell, money for oil from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia?
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 26 September 2015 09: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      Money for fish again? Ideology cannot be defeated by weapons. Until those who struggle with Isil understand this, they will not be able to defeat the Islamic State.

      And what do you propose, Professor, to enter into an ideological war with them?
      1. Professor
        Professor 26 September 2015 10: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: APASUS
        And what do you propose, Professor, to enter into an ideological war with them?

        The approach should have been comprehensive, including ideological.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 26 September 2015 10: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: APASUS
          And what do you propose, Professor, to enter into an ideological war with them?

          The approach should have been comprehensive, including ideological.

          Of course, comprehensive and accompanied by real reforms in society, but until the territory of Syria is really liberated, what kind of measures can we talk about?
          1. Professor
            Professor 26 September 2015 10: 50 New
            -1
            Quote: APASUS
            Of course, comprehensive and accompanied by real reforms in society, but until the territory of Syria is really liberated, what kind of measures can we talk about?

            You are like little children. Freed from ideology? What tanks can it be knocked out? Sunshis support Daesh, and they make up the majority of the Syrian population. Cut out all the Sunnis?

            PS
            What is attractive about Daesh ideology?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 11: 11 New
              -3
              Quote: Professor

              PS
              What is attractive about Daesh ideology?

              Oleg, yes, there are couch analysts, tomorrow they are ready to defeat ISIS. Only they forget that in the Caucasus they do not have time to wet the new emirs, whom the fear of death does not stop.
              1. Professor
                Professor 26 September 2015 11: 43 New
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Oleg, yes, there are couch analysts, tomorrow they are ready to defeat ISIS. Only they forget that in the Caucasus they do not have time to wet the new emirs, whom the fear of death does not stop.

                I recognize couch heroes. They can only scratch their tongue and knock on the clave with their fingers.
                1. mihasik
                  mihasik 26 September 2015 12: 54 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Professor
                  I recognize couch heroes. They can only scratch their tongue and knock on the clave with their fingers.

                  And why are you knocking here, "Professor"?)
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 26 September 2015 13: 23 New
                    -1
                    Quote: mihasik
                    And why are you knocking here, "Professor"?)

                    Here I knock 49 weeks a year, and the remaining 3 ... soldier
                    1. afdjhbn67
                      afdjhbn67 26 September 2015 13: 27 New
                      +2
                      and the remaining 3 ... soldier tapping? laughing
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 26 September 2015 13: 29 New
                        0
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        and the remaining 3 ... soldier tapping?

                        Tapping your children’s brains. wink
                    2. mihasik
                      mihasik 26 September 2015 16: 13 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Professor
                      Quote: mihasik
                      And why are you knocking here, "Professor"?)

                      Here I knock 49 weeks a year, and the remaining 3 ... soldier

                      Well, you have a law like that. Well done, you need to give the debt to the homeland).
                      Our law is different and we have trampled our own) ... I personally already 25 years ago.
                2. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 26 September 2015 20: 05 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Professor
                  I recognize couch heroes. They can only scratch their tongue and knock on the clave with their fingers.

                  You yourself are not far from them.
              2. mihasik
                mihasik 26 September 2015 12: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: Professor

                PS
                What is attractive about Daesh ideology?

                Oleg, yes, there are couch analysts, tomorrow they are ready to defeat ISIS. Only they forget that in the Caucasus they do not have time to wet the new emirs, whom the fear of death does not stop.

                The problem is not that everyone is not afraid of death (everyone is afraid of it), but that he will find death in any case, or those close to him, for not following the order. And they believe that this will happen in this or another world.
                The inevitability of punishment is called that distinguishes them from the "tolerant" world.
              3. APASUS
                APASUS 26 September 2015 16: 00 New
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: Professor

                PS
                What is attractive about Daesh ideology?

                Oleg, yes, there are couch analysts, tomorrow they are ready to defeat ISIS. Only they forget that in the Caucasus they do not have time to wet the new emirs, whom the fear of death does not stop.

                Well, yes, they are all ideological there, they probably steal oil and fill it in pockets?
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 16: 02 New
                  0
                  Quote: APASUS

                  Well, yes, they are all ideological there, they probably steal oil and fill it in pockets?

                  But how does one interfere with the other? Thugs kill, steal, everything is normal with them.
              4. Sirocco
                Sirocco 27 September 2015 04: 57 New
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: Professor

                PS
                What is attractive about Daesh ideology?
                Oleg, yes, there are sofa analysts

                You know, here Professor Pan is trying to expose everyone as couch analysts, and so is you. Isil and DaiShi are one and the same.
                A pan professor, is a paid troll.
                Which occupies in its hierarchy the highest level of the Troll-analyst, the truth sometimes combines with a troll - an emigrant. Well, we must pay tribute to him, and do not feed him.
            2. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 26 September 2015 15: 55 New
              +4
              "Cut out all the Sunnis?" why not? besides not all of us at one time not all Germans were cut out but only the most stubborn and helped
            3. APASUS
              APASUS 26 September 2015 18: 46 New
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              You are like little children. Freed from ideology? What tanks can it be knocked out? Sunshis support Daesh, and they make up the majority of the Syrian population. Cut out all the Sunnis?

              So explain to the incomprehensible to me that you are putting an integrated approach into the concept?
              In Russia, the Communists lost in all respects, so what can we say that the Communist ideology lost?
              The situation is the same with fascism. The guys cheerfully march under the banner of the SS national divisions in Ukraine, Lithuania. They erect monuments to the heroes from the SS in Estonia, mark memorable dates at the highest level. So what can we say that the ideology of fascism has been defeated?
              In the Baltic countries, heroes are venerated at the highest state level, so how to fight ideology if the authorities themselves demonstrate a commitment to it?
              This can also be attributed to ISIS; fighting ideology in areas not controlled by the authorities is possible only at the level of psychics
              1. Professor
                Professor 26 September 2015 18: 55 New
                -3
                Quote: APASUS
                So explain to the incomprehensible to me that you are putting an integrated approach into the concept?

                1. Provide an alternative.
                2. Ensure social equality.
                3. It is merciless to punish the "wrong" preachers.
                4. Provide basic living conditions.
                5. Disarm.

                Quote: APASUS
                In Russia, the Communists lost the article in every way, so what can we say that the Communist ideology lost?

                Yes. Exactly. Communist ideology went down the drain.

                Quote: APASUS
                Ukraine, Lithuania. They erect monuments to heroes from the SS in Estonia, mark memorable dates at the highest level. So what can we say that the ideology of fascism has been defeated?

                Defeated. Separate relapses arise here and there (Iran ...), but on the whole, this ideology is not dangerous today.

                PS
                In Vilnius opened a street in honor of the savior of the Jews
                This week, the opening ceremony of the first street in Lithuania was held in Vilnius, named after a non-Jew who risked his life to save those who could fill up the list of Holocaust victims without outside help.
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 26 September 2015 19: 24 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Professor
                  1. Provide an alternative. 2. Ensure social equality. 3. It is merciless to punish the "wrong" preachers. 4. Ensure basic living conditions. 5. Disarm.

                  And all this can be done without releasing the territories captured by ISIS, or still they need to be freed first?
                  Quote: Professor
                  Yes. Exactly. Communist ideology went down the drain.

                  I think there is not still alive and will still excite the minds of more than one century.
                  Quote: Professor
                  Defeated. Separate relapses arise here and there (Iran ...), but on the whole, this ideology is not dangerous today.

                  Yes, and when Hitler was called corporal and laughed at him ..............
                  Quote: Professor
                  This week, the opening ceremony of the first street in Lithuania was held in Vilnius, named after a non-Jew who risked his life to save those who could fill up the list of Holocaust victims without outside help.

                  I am very glad that people remained in the country who are adequately related to the horrors of war and at the same time
                  In Lithuania, the collection of funds for the restoration of the monument to the “partisans who fell in the struggle against the Bolsheviks” in 1941 has sharply accelerated. The money donated to the authorities and the district and the republic. As follows from archival documents, the authorities are going to perpetuate the memory of the fascists, who exterminated thousands of Jews during the war.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 26 September 2015 19: 28 New
                    -1
                    Quote: APASUS
                    And all this can be done without releasing the territories captured by ISIS, or still they need to be freed first?

                    In the order indicated by me.

                    Quote: APASUS
                    I think there is not still alive and will still excite the minds of more than one century.

                    She is so dead that stinks for thousands of kilometers.
                    1. APASUS
                      APASUS 26 September 2015 20: 14 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      In the order indicated by me.
                      1. Provide an alternative.
                      2. Ensure social equality.
                      3. It is merciless to punish the "wrong" preachers.
                      4. Provide basic living conditions.
                      5. Disarm.

                      I think ISIS will appreciate your work, especially regarding p3,4,5
                      Quote: Professor
                      She is so dead that stinks for thousands of kilometers.

                      I copied the number of Communist Parties in the world with mailing addresses, did not fit into the comment I had to delete. Look at your leisure, what you think is dead and stinkshttp://cccp.narod.ru/patriot.html
                      I can find approximately such a list of organizations (national sense), so it’s too early to write off these ideologies, oh early ..........
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 26 September 2015 20: 20 New
                        -1
                        Quote: APASUS
                        I think ISIS will appreciate your work, especially regarding p3,4,5

                        And I did not write that it would be easy.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        I copied the number of communist parties in the world with mailing addresses, did not fit into the comment. I had to delete it. Look at your leisure, what you think has died and stinkshttp: //cccp.narod.ru/patriot.html
                        I can find approximately such a list of organizations (national sense), so it’s too early to write off these ideologies, oh early ..........

                        And the number of societies of alien lovers is even greater. What is this talking about?
                      2. APASUS
                        APASUS 26 September 2015 23: 18 New
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        And the number of societies of alien lovers is even greater. What is this talking about?

                        About nothing.
                        The number of alien lovers, fishermen, hunters, kitties and dogs in general past the topic
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 26 September 2015 10: 17 New
    +5
    And by past the DShK on Toyota there is heavy armored vehicles, artillery, MANPADS and ATGMs in large quantities.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 26 September 2015 10: 50 New
      0
      The Syrian army, and in a large number of mine-protected, multi-purpose wheeled APVs are needed on 5-7 people ... in Russia, these are not mass-produced

      like Amerov’s M-ATV "Oshcosh", with ATGMs mounted on them, 12,7 mm machine gun + 40 mm AGS ... just for the bolb with militant columns, small detachments ...

      YES and to our specialists in Syria, such armored vehicles are needed as "air" ...

      in Syria, goes against the classic mine / high-explosive war + suicide bombers and modern anti-tank systems ...

      undermining the M-ATV "Oshcosh", on a land mine ((but the armored car, after the explosion remained intact))) and if the SMP-2 "Tiger M" had been blown up like that without mine protection or BTR-80 / 82 ??? the outcome of such an undermining is not difficult to predict - 200 and 300 who are lucky ...
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 26 September 2015 10: 59 New
        +3
        Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq equipped with georadars based on the Husky car (Husky), didn’t spot the laid down IEDs ...

        and the last chance of survival for the crew was the BBM armored capsule ...

        the undermining of the M-ATV "Oshcosh" armored car is intact ((although the machine-gun turret with an arrow was blown into the trash)))
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 11: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: cosmos111
        detonation of M-ATV "Oshcosh", on a land mine ((but armored capsule, after the explosion remained whole))

        Even if the armored capsule is intact, then with such an explosion, there are still no wounded inside the car.
        1. Professor
          Professor 26 September 2015 11: 44 New
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Even if the armored capsule is intact, then with such an explosion, there are still no wounded inside the car.

          If they were fastened, then everything is in order with them.
        2. cosmos111
          cosmos111 26 September 2015 11: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Even if the armored capsule is intact, then with such an explosion, there are still no wounded inside the car.


          it’s hard to say, BUT there is a chance ... if the blast wave did not flow into the armored capsule .... then only the wounded ((fractures, concussions)))
          and of course mine seats, with safety belts ... whoever doesn’t fasten, also rub ((fracture of the cervical vertebrae)))
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 26 September 2015 13: 16 New
            0
            AM General JLTV prototype ... test for detonating armored capsules on 0: 11 / 1.03 min ...

      3. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 26 September 2015 15: 57 New
        +2
        and if so a hammer striker or ravings?
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 26 September 2015 18: 29 New
          0
          Quote: anti-Semite
          and if so a hammer striker or ravings?


          HAMMER, it’s just like in the trash ... on the Bradley BMP of the latest versions the mine defense has been strengthened ((although such a land mine as in the video ... smashed the Bradley into the trash)))

          barely found ... Americans cleared no .... thoroughly ...
          1. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 26 September 2015 19: 20 New
            +2
            with such landmines, no mrap even South Africa will save
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 26 September 2015 20: 46 New
              0
              Quote: anti-Semite
              with such landmines, no mrap even South Africa will save


              why not save ???

              BBM Paramount Group
              1. anti-Semite
                anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 31 New
                0
                there on some videos the explosions are clearly a few tens of kilograms of TNT or even under a hundred
  • atalef
    atalef 26 September 2015 13: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    The Islamists are armed very simply: DShK on Toyotas. It was with these weapons that they disarmed the Iraqi divisions armed with artillery, aircraft and armored vehicles.

    Hey . Oleg
    need to clarify
    Shiite units of the Iraqi army scattered.
    1. Professor
      Professor 26 September 2015 13: 24 New
      -2
      Quote: atalef
      Shiite units of the Iraqi army scattered.

      I accept the clarification. Shiites are famous "brave men" ... behind women’s skirts.
    2. anti-Semite
      anti-Semite 26 September 2015 15: 58 New
      +4
      but this lies just ran away
      1. alone
        alone 26 September 2015 18: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: anti-Semite
        but this lies just ran away

        )) Everyone ran and the Sunnis and Shiites. And some of the Sunnis simply went over to their side. Because of the harassment of the Sunni population by the Shiite government of Al-Maliki. Let's be more objective.
        1. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 26 September 2015 19: 16 New
          +2
          if to be completely objective, the Sunnis oppressed the Shiites under Hussein so it’s a sin to be offended
  • anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 15: 49 New
    +1
    to defeat ideology and it is not necessary to destroy its carriers sufficiently in the period 41 45 years of the USSR, it fought not with ideology but with the Wehrmacht, as it turned out, if the German army was to be endangered, national socialism ceases to exist as a threat
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 26 September 2015 17: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Until those who struggle with Isil understand this, they will not be able to defeat the Islamic State.

    They fight rather sluggishly. It seems that only they make a look
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 26 September 2015 09: 51 New
    +2
    IMHO: Just very necessary: ​​TOS 1a, Terminator, Arena protection system, Adros optical-electronic suppression station KT-01AVE. No need to save, given the small number of troops in Syria. Zhlobstvo, coupled with amateurism will cost Russia very dearly. yes
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 26 September 2015 10: 35 New
      -1
      And who will pay, did not think? Everyone already knows everything ..
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 26 September 2015 10: 27 New
    +1
    Damn, I studied with the Syrians, drank tea, great guys. I had a unique country as a guest. And Muslims, Christians, Zoroastrians hugged together, but the Jews and the paisys didn’t make a bit of love. If you say - Russian (it doesn’t matter from Voronezh or Vladivostok), you are a dear guest.
    And now ? Yes, I’ll be the first to go there (although I’m not the first to think) to destroy the scum. No current funds yet. Moreover, everything is Soviet and Russian.
    I remember from the stories of my grandfather SPAIN.
    Just recently, Temka was about PMCs of Russia.
    1. Professor
      Professor 26 September 2015 10: 42 New
      -2
      Quote: Barracuda
      Yes, I’ll be the first to go there (although I’m not the first to think) to destroy the scum. There is no current funds yet.

      So throw a cry on the site. We will collect the whole world for a one-way ticket. After all, a penny is worth it. I’ll be the first to sacrifice you. wink
      Online Booking
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 26 September 2015 10: 51 New
        +5
        Donating is good. Only who will meet me there?
        Contacts are lost, I'm not in the sect. Unless I ask Shoigu to abandon the next IL-76.
        1. Professor
          Professor 26 September 2015 10: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Barracuda
          Donating is good. Only who will meet me there?
          Contacts are lost, I'm not in the sect.

          Well, that’s it. Excuses have gone. How predictable. negative

          PS
          Contact your military attache at the Syrian Embassy. He will arrange everything.

          03050, Kiev, st. Belorusskaya, 5, 2nd floor
          Phone: (+38 044) 489-55-51, 489-55-52
          Fax: (+38 044) 483-97-88, 483-82-91
          Email: [email protected]
        2. Kaiten
          Kaiten 26 September 2015 21: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Barracuda
          Donating is good. Only who will meet me there?

          Sevastopol, contract in the Marine Corps. there is just a shortage there, many do not want to go to Syria.
          1. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 50 New
            +1
            source of information ukro tv?
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 September 2015 11: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        I’ll be the first to sacrifice you.

        Money down the drain? Oleg, it’s better to donate to me, I’ll drink them honestly wassat
  • Warpik
    Warpik 26 September 2015 10: 28 New
    +3
    In no way do I want to belittle the power of Russian weapons, but the whole article looks like an advertising brochure - Buy a pack of T-90 and ISIS is not scary to you! But in the whole article +.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 26 September 2015 10: 40 New
      0
      That's right - buy a T-90. BUT who will TEACH the crews? One driver should be driven for at least a month every day. Cover with a mat and kicks, but feed perfectly.
  • Wils
    Wils 26 September 2015 10: 34 New
    -3
    when the ussr, syria was always armed to the teeth and they always managed to enchantingly ask for all the wars, nothing significant with the help of this aviation would work either.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 26 September 2015 10: 37 New
    +6
    We will help Syria now (such a moment has come) Then they will be to Russia! Yes, the whole Arab world is looking with hope for us ... It is not for nothing that the United States will be so worn out (even the Ukrainians have forgotten ..)))))
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      1. Egor65g
        Egor65g 26 September 2015 11: 38 New
        0
        What an exact definition! And by the way, I’ve never been an Arab laughing
    2. Kaiten
      Kaiten 26 September 2015 21: 28 New
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Then they are to Russia!

      Soon, when the Arabs overpopulate Europe, you will have the opportunity to evaluate how the Arabs help when they rush to Russia with deer.
      1. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 40 New
        0
        we don’t rush, we don’t have freebies and benefits, and the climate is not the same, although it’s for sure
  • Oman 47
    Oman 47 26 September 2015 11: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: razgildyay
    Hacking the financial foundation of ISIS is oil trading.

    How do you imagine that? How is this possible without prejudice to the Russian economy and political influence?


    1. By cutting the pipelines to the sea, that is, to the terminals for loading oil into tankers.
    2. Sea blockade of such ports.
    3. The international publicity and trolling of oil buyers from ISIS.
  • Oman 47
    Oman 47 26 September 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    I am guilty.

    It is completely incomprehensible why the mattress does not respond to ISIS plans to introduce its currency - the GOLDEN DINAR.
    This is a direct undermining of the dollar system.

    Gaddafi was soaked precisely for this.
  • Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 26 September 2015 11: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    We will help Syria now (such a moment has come) Then they will be to Russia! Yes, the whole Arab world is looking with hope for us ... It is not for nothing that the United States will be so worn out (even the Ukrainians have forgotten ..)))))

    You will forget about them)))), even now - I drink Khokhlyatsk vodka and I think - they didn’t drink where they arrived, they found there, for what, for the sake of WHO ???????
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 26 September 2015 14: 04 New
      +3
      The only way now to “stop” the spread of terrorism and fascism supported by the USA and Israel is to create an alliance in particular in the BV region consisting of Russia - Syria - Iraq - Iran - Hezbollah, as opposed to sponsors of terrorists and fascists of the USA - Israel - Wahhabis.
      And of course, urgent arms supplies need to be established not only for Syria and Iraq, but also for Iran and Hezbollah, including anti-aircraft and anti-aircraft weapons for protecting ISIS consisting of the US Air Force and the Israeli regime.
  • lunoxod
    lunoxod 26 September 2015 17: 38 New
    0
    caption
    Russian weapons can help Syria defeat ISIS
    right so
    Russian weapons will help Syria defeat ISIS
  • Slax
    Slax 26 September 2015 19: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    The approach should have been comprehensive, including ideological.


    unfortunately the professor is right, this is a one hundred percent ideology, but there is nothing to oppose it with. ISIS is a religious fanatics preparing for the end of the world, so the earth is of little interest to them ....

    It is quite natural that the Islamic state that arose on such an ideological basis was predetermined and in no other way, following the statements of its leaders, to lead the struggle for the renewal of the Muslim world on the eve of the coming Judgment Day and as a result of this: the unification of all believers within the borders of the newly revived great caliphate.
    Although the prospect is uncertain, no matter how this state formation exists, according to the plans of jihadists, the appearance of Mahdi, the last successor of the prophet Muhammad, a just and worthy ruler, should occur on its territory, which will mark the imminent approach of the end of the world. And the unprepared, read, not cleansed from heresy environment in other Muslim lands, by definition, cannot accept it, as well as the descent of Jesus, who must descend (to the ground) at the white minaret in eastern Damascus, according to the holy prophecy. By the way, it was there, for a long time, that the armed groups of the IS have been fighting with the Syrian army for the capture of this iconic city.
    As a result, this religious ideology turned out to be enough that in the understanding of believers there would be a feeling of the complete inseparability of the existence of the Islamic state - Quranic messages and reliable hadiths, and hence its unofficial recognition by the world Muslim community. http://idealist-v.livejournal.com/
  • zinander
    zinander 26 September 2015 20: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Egor65G
    As I know: In May of 2005, Russia wrote off Syria $ 9,782 billion from $ 13,4 billion of debt to Syria. In turn, Damascus undertook to purchase Russian weapons and modernize the armored vehicles delivered in Soviet times.
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2364889
    That is, in addition to promises, in Russia they have not seen a single Syrian penny since the time of the union. And the IDF is bombing convoys of Russian weapons heading for Hezbollah bases in Lebanon.

    Jews like to count other people's money. What’s the matter with that? Without snotty we’ll figure it out. hi
    1. Egor65g
      Egor65g 26 September 2015 21: 03 New
      0
      In vain you are angry with me and trying to insult. it true and for this truth it is not necessary for me to show.
      1. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 26 September 2015 21: 35 New
        +1
        I, as a citizen of Russia, as a taxpayer FOR, what matters does a citizen of Israel care about our financial relations with Syria? what is your idiotic habit of counting other people's money in someone else's pocket
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 26 September 2015 21: 47 New
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          I would ask in the future to avoid such words-
          Quote: anti-Semite
          idiotic habit
          . Am I clearly articulating?
          But in essence I can answer. I really have little interest in all your internal affairs, both yours personally and, in fact, Russian ones. BUT getting into Syria with weapons you create a chance for arming terrorists. And I already care about that. Private a business. Now it is clear?
          1. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 02 New
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            go to youtube and there are videos of fighters on which they use ptou tou, 16 barrels and there were videos and with the stingers did Putin put the question? getting into Syria, we are trying to prevent the construction of the caliphate and this is OUR problem because a significant part of our country is painted black on their maps and the fact that Israel speaks so vividly against the igil bombings leads to certain thoughts, especially since you refer to Shiites as your enemies, but with the Sunnis the world and love
            1. Egor65g
              Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 22 New
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              I am for the bombing of the igles with both hands. And bomb Hezbal too, at the same time, they are exactly the same.
              We have such peace with the Sunnis, and such love that we fought with them more than once. It’s you with radicals kissing your gums.
              1. anti-Semite
                anti-Semite 26 September 2015 22: 37 New
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                and why should we bomb Hezbollah? all the attacks carried out on our territory were carried out by the Sunnis, not a single Shiite attack was made by us hostages, they weren’t taken, and in general they didn’t do any harm to our country, the hezbollah didn’t put forward ideas about creating a caliphate, and as far as I know their goals, the defense of Lebanon, well, they don’t want to the composition of Israel! you have quite good relations with Qatar and with the Saudis, and Hamas was born not without your participation, besides I don’t remember the Israeli clashes with al Qaeda Ishil Anusra and other Sunni militants
                1. Egor65g
                  Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 44 New
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                  Israel is a proper name, and is capitalized.
                  Hezbalah protects Lebanon ??? Yes, if it were not for Hizbullah, Assad-Lebanon would have lived now, but lived.
                  And they do not build a caliphate, because they are weak. All their idiology is based on Islam. ISIS and Hizbalah are two boots of steam.
                  1. anti-Semite
                    anti-Semite 26 September 2015 23: 16 New
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                    I have already answered this question the name of the countries that are unpleasant to me. I basically write with a small letter, considering how they bite over the name of my country in Russian-speaking Israeli forums, this is far from the most radical way to express my attitude towards you if it were not for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Assad in Syria there would be Libya, and for a long time over there in Iraq and Libya they overthrew dictators and so what? are they good at democracy?
      2. Barakuda
        Barakuda 26 September 2015 21: 53 New
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        Sorry, but really, there are Jews, and normal Jews, a big difference.
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 26 September 2015 22: 25 New
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          I did not understand the promise. You really inflate me in more detail, I'm a simple man. In addition, Russian, and your Jewish mansi do not immediately understand.
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 26 September 2015 21: 49 New
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    Eugene Krutikov, You either come to the Donbass, or fly to Syria. Nehru here to drive the blizzard, and we all know.
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 27 September 2015 10: 04 New
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      Quote: Barracuda
      Eugene Krutikov, You either come to the Donbass, or fly to Syria. Nehru here to drive the blizzard, and we all know.

      The very thing that is not in the Donbass?
  • mihasik
    mihasik 26 September 2015 23: 41 New
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    Quote: Egor65G
    Hezbalah shot me exclusively with Russian weapons.

    And in our 08.08.08 Georgians thrashed from Israel, and what will we do? By the way, Russia doesn’t deliver weapons to Hizbole, unlike Israel, which nurses al Nusra, which from time to time pounds at our embassy. Do you say hello from you?
    1. Egor65g
      Egor65g 26 September 2015 23: 51 New
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      About
      Quote: mihasik
      Al Nusra.
      are your pink dreams? Or do you have evidence?
      We sell weapons to you. And our factories produce quite a bit for your defense industry. But you are not a Hezbollah terrorist organization. And about Georgia, the same business as with you. The USSR used to be armed with all our enemies free of charge.
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  • mihasik
    mihasik 27 September 2015 00: 58 New
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    Quote: Egor65G
    "al Nusra." - your pink dreams? Or do you have evidence?

    Well, what evidence are you talking about?) “Polite little men” without identification marks in the Crimea, is it proof of the presence of special forces of the GRU of the Russian Federation?) These are the Crimean militias who went to the Voentorg store!)
    So it is with you, “al Nusra,” - this is the “democratic” opposition.) Although the example is not entirely comparable. Or did you get it wrong?)
    And at the expense of weapons, you were the first to “make a claim” or didn’t understand?
    1. anti-Semite
      anti-Semite 27 September 2015 01: 14 New
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      en nusra are good Islamists and igil bad!
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 27 September 2015 01: 20 New
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        Quote: anti-Semite
        en nusra are good Islamists and igil bad!

        Are good Islamists hammering on a bad Russian embassy?)
        And then what is it to be surprised that Hezbollah neutral for us is hammering on bad Israel?
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 27 September 2015 09: 05 New
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          I wonder what you personally do not like Israel? Reasons can you announce?
          1. Professor
            Professor 27 September 2015 09: 14 New
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            Quote: Egor65G
            I wonder what you personally do not like Israel? Reasons can you announce?

            Are you really interested in the opinion of the troll?
            1. Egor65g
              Egor65g 27 September 2015 09: 28 New
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              I do not think that this is a trivial troll, too gray and wretched. Rather, it is one of 86% and I am interested in his arguments. Interesting in that they are easily refuted. Of course, if these are not groans about blood of christian babies-there I have nothing to object laughing
              1. anti-Semite
                anti-Semite 27 September 2015 13: 44 New
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                86% is a hint of Putin’s supporters? then the counter-question is that he did you bad, that you hate him all over the country?
                1. Egor65g
                  Egor65g 27 September 2015 13: 56 New
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                  Quote: anti-Semite
                  hate him all over the country

                  Bgyyy ... Yes, most of the population does not know who Putin is. You have a terrible mess in your head, and hopes for improvement are not expected.
    2. Egor65g
      Egor65g 27 September 2015 09: 03 New
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      That is, there is no evidence? So it’s your pink dreams. The whole world saw your little men and your president, in the end, modestly admitted to this. And all these Islamic formations — igil, al nusra, etc. — are, for me, one Islamic fascist face.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 27 September 2015 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Egor65G
        That is, there is no evidence? So it’s your pink dreams. .

        From old:
        Six wounded Syrian fighters cured in Israel

        TEL AVIV, February 27. Six of the seven Syrian citizens who were injured and undergoing treatment in Israel were discharged from the hospital. Another Syrian with severe wounds is still being treated.
        The IDF press service does not disclose the whereabouts of Syrian citizens discharged from the hospital “for their own safety”.
        Apparently, with the help of UNDOF and Red Cross employees, the Syrians will be returned to their homeland. There is no official information on this yet.
        Recall, on February 18, the Israeli military command allowed seven Syrian opposition fighters to be seriously wounded in battles with the army of Bashar al-Assad in the area of ​​the Israeli-Syrian border. The chambers of the operated militants were under heavy guard.
        Israel has not developed a plan of action in case of refugees from Syria entering the country. Leaders of the Druze Golan Heights (traditionally supporting the Assad regime) called on the government not to deport the Syrians to their homeland, where they will face the death penalty, but to provide political asylum or transfer to a third country.
        According to NEWSru.co.il, the head of the IDF’s general staff, Beni Ganz, reprimanded the commander of the Northern Military District, Major General Yair Golan, who allowed the wounded to be allowed into Israel without coordination with the leadership of the general staff. Commenting on the situation, the military emphasizes that the decision to let the wounded into Israel was "targeted" and will not be a precedent.
        Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/02/27/1099480.html
        From fresh:
        http://il24.ru/israel/479-voennye-mediki-cahala-lechili-tysyachi-siriyskih-boevi

        I will not attach American photos from satellites in the form of evidence, they believe they are insane)

        kov.html
        And all these Islamic formations — igil, al nusra, etc. — are, for me, one Islamic fascist face.

        And for this you do not care whom to treat?) Merciful?)
        PS Putin admitted a year later, and Netanyahu weak?)
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 27 September 2015 11: 24 New
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          You are a fool then stop making up. Whom to us through the fence blue helmets they throw it over and treat it. And it is because of mercy.
  • mihasik
    mihasik 27 September 2015 11: 50 New
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    Quote: Egor65G
    You are a fool then stop making up. Whom to us through the fence blue helmets they throw it over and treat it. And it is because of mercy.

    This is how the Georgians and Turks treated Chechen scumbags in the first and second Chechen? Ah well done! And then fresh and rested, they threw them back through Georgia to Chechnya with fully equipped and for some reason not medical preparations. Is this such mercy for the Russians?
    1. Egor65g
      Egor65g 27 September 2015 13: 35 New
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      About Georgians and Turks I will not say anything, not in the subject. And the Syrian and Philistine civilians, including many children, Israel treats. And by the way, I am against this.
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  • ZAGOD
    ZAGOD 28 September 2015 09: 27 New
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    Do you think the United States will not give them money?