Media: Russia, Iran, Syria have created a center to attract Shiites to fight the IG

Iranian, Syrian and Russian military set up a coordination center in Baghdad to try to start cooperation with Shiites in the fight against a terrorist organization "Islamic State", the channel reports Fox News with reference to the data of special services.

According to US officials, it is not yet known whether representatives of the Iraqi authorities are participating in this, the report says.

According to military sources Fox News, Russian Su aircraft began to make departures from the airport named after Latakia, but limited to flights over the base.

The Wall Street Journal several days earlier wrote that Iran and Russia began to coordinate their actions in Syria, which are aimed at preserving the regime of President Bashar Assad, however, according to Iranian commander Ataolla Salehi, Tehran and Moscow do not provide Syria with coordinated military assistance and each country has its own plan of action.

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[oleg-gr]

Fox News citing intelligence agency data. If it is true, it means that the IG will be "smitten" by an adult.

[marlin1203]

Coordination, reconnaissance, aviation ... until infantry and tanks have passed the ground, it remains under the enemy. What about this? A large-scale ground operation is indispensable. Is the drained Syrian army ready for it? Or maybe the former soldiers of Saddam, who are now in the Ishil for the most part? Will the Shiites themselves want to be "involved" in such a difficult and dangerous undertaking? Look, their people are storming Europe, instead of defending their native land. Again, Russian soldiers will have to "drag"?

[alone]

Quote: marlin1203

Again, Russian soldiers will have to "drag"?

Probably have to, once the decision is made.

[DV69]

Russian soldiers will have to drag, because “dragging” in Syria, they will defend Russia. Do you remember the statements of the IS leaders that the Caucasus should be free?
Better to drag in the Middle East than near Krasnodar.

[supertiger21]

Why Shiites? Once again, the Iraqi Shiite-Kurdish junta wants to show Shi’s dominance over the Sunnis, although the Sunnis make up 65-70% of the Iraqi population.
PS You can put cons, but I, as a Sunni, care about my fellow believers.

[donavi49]

Well, you have to face the truth. The only fighting force today is the Shiite police + Iranian volunteers. Yes, they show stiffness no less than the IG, burning alive, cutting, killing, frying shawarma from the freshly caught, conduct mass repressions of the Sunni population. But the other alternative is only IG.

An attempt to create a Sunni tribal militia supported by army units mainly by Sunnis (and not some, but by elite units of the ISOF + 9 tank division) ended in Ramadi, who fell in less than a week, and there were 4 times more list of defending Iraqi soldiers than attacking at the beginning.

Now Ramadi almost repeated in Tikrit. When the IS made a maneuver and began to attack the city, protected mainly by the Sunni militia, with the rear units, army men and police. Fortunately, from the Spencer base, the Americans helped with fire and support with air. But this was in their selfish interests. Now the IS seems to have rolled back, taking moderately loot from 2 of the defeated Iraqi bases in Tikrit.

[padded jacket]

Quote: supertiger21

Why Shiites?

I think Fox News, as always, is engaged in provocations. Shiites have been fighting with bandits for so long, most likely a headquarters is being created to coordinate actions with Sunnis who want to speak out against those who, under the guise of slogans about the purity of Islam, instill terror and lawlessness on the lands they seized.

[supertiger21]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: supertiger21

Why Shiites?

I think Fox News, as always, is engaged in provocations. Shiites have been fighting with bandits for so long, most likely a headquarters is being created to coordinate actions with Sunnis who want to speak out against those who, under the guise of slogans about the purity of Islam, instill terror and lawlessness on the lands they seized.

Padded jacket, that's what I’m talking about. If you fight against ISIS, then connect the Sunnis then, otherwise it turns out a kind of discrimination.

[padded jacket]

Quote: supertiger21

If you fight against ISIS, then connect the Sunnis then, otherwise it turns out a kind of discrimination.

I fully agree that this "evil" should be destroyed by people of all religions, since it only carries hatred and enmity between religions.

[Yeraz]

Quote: quilted jacket

I fully agree that this "evil" should be destroyed by people of all religions, since it only carries hatred and enmity between religions.

You don’t want to understand that ISIS’s recharge is Sunni ???
And about why not the Kurds. So everyone in the East and beyond knows that the patron of the Kurds and the Kurdish project is the United States and Israel. And there’s no point in climbing Russia and Iran there. Northern Iraq, where the Kurds all control the US project and they get full support. Therefore, there remains 1 ardent opponent who will fight to the death against Yig to death and will not betray Russia and Iran, these are Shiites. Since survival and complete destruction are at stake.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Yeraz

You don’t want to understand that ISIS’s recharge is Sunnis ???

Yes, I do not deny that there are mostly Sunnis, but far from all Sunnis living on the earth there, the bulk of the Sunnis also do not accept this inhuman ideology aimed at the destruction of all those who disagree with them. And in the army and government of Syria and throughout the world, many people of the Sunni branch of Islam support Assad and his fight against terrorism, in particular with the Islamic State.

[APASUS]

Quote: supertiger21

Why Shiites? Once again, the Iraqi Shiite-Kurdish junta wants to show Shi’s dominance over the Sunnis, although the Sunnis make up 65-70% of the Iraqi population.
PS You can put cons, but I, as a Sunni, care about my fellow believers.

The task of Russia, as far as possible, is to unite and coordinate the efforts of heterogeneous groups ready to fight with ISIS. This is a task for the near future. At the same time, Putin suggested that Assad pay attention to reforms in the state. It should be contrary to the desire of the Americans to find a real middle ground for uniting all the country's national groups.
I don’t know how to get the second de Gaulle out of it, but the tasks are daunting

[Samurai3X]

I doubt that the Russian soldiers will have to drag, for this there are Syrian. The biggest problem is that the IG - state. With the ministries, with all the necessary structures. This is not a huge terrorist organization. Therefore, first of all, intelligence is needed on the mechanisms of interaction in this state. It is clear that everything rests on certain people. Any organizational system (be it a corporation, state, etc.) rests on key people. These people are not always in sight. By removing key people, the state will cease to function as needed. After this, an offensive on a certain front or some major victory over this state will disperse it. No need to think that in the leadership of the IG complete psychos are sitting. On the ground, they received a mandate for government from the population (mostly Sunni). Partly by intimidation shares, partly by bribery, but they are supported. It is necessary to shake the confidence of the people, and then affirm in the minds of people that they live wrongly, not according to the Quran (here I think sensible Sunni imams will work).
IMHO: I think that in draft the plan is as follows.

[brr1]

Just the fact that this state allows you to identify key objects to be destroyed.

[mosquito]

IG is a virtual structure ..

[stephan cat]

Not so simple.
http://postskriptum.org/2015/09/25/latakia-34/2/ (переключатель страниц под статьёй - всего четыре странички)
Operation operation, but most importantly - the support of the population of the liberated territories. A successful counterguerrilla warfare is based on two main conditions - cutting off support from outside and cutting off support from the population (for partisans, of course). If, at least, one of the conditions is not fulfilled - you can fight with the partisans endlessly.
Assad has big problems in this regard. A split in the Syrian society on religious grounds (Shiite-Sunites) is present. Part of the army cannot be used for its intended purpose - low reliability.
Bet on Shiites. Perhaps, at the moment, the right decision, perhaps the only right one. But without the support of most of the Sunnis, Syria will never exist within its former borders. For the time being, it’s possible to save.

[veksha50]

Quote: marlin1203

Again, Russian soldiers will have to "drag"?

But this is already extremely undesirable ...

Equipment-weapons-ammunition-advisers - yes ... Intelligence data (any - space, electronic, air) - provide timely ... Protection of airspace ...

But purely ground operations should be carried out only by Syrian government troops with local allies ...

[KAV]

Well done! While there the "partners" are engaged in connotation and verbiage - ours do.

[little girl15]

This is a real coalition against ISIS and not a state affiliation club.

[rotmistr60]

Iranian, Syrian and Russian military establish coordination center in Baghdad

A new bone in the throat of the United States, and not a small one. Now they will try to discredit this undertaking.

[hydrox]

Quote: rotmistr60

Now they will try to discredit this undertaking.

Late, after 2 days, Putin’s report to the UN General Assembly - they won’t have time to change anything in the report. And Putin now oh how to have beautiful data on the number of destroyed ISIS, liberated cities and cleared square. kilometers ...

[vovanpain]

But the coalition is nevertheless created and, in contrast to the state coalition, is very effective.

[sinukvl]

And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.

[vorobey]

Quote: sinukvl

And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.

There is no confirmation of official sources in the next branch yet ..

The Arab resource almasdarnews.com reports that the military contingent of the PRC is already on its way to Latakia and will arrive at Syrian ports from day to day. Chinese transport with military cargo was spotted on Tuesday morning passing through the Suez Canal.

The information that the Chinese military experts may arrive in Tartus in the coming weeks was confirmed by the commander of the Syrian army. The publication concludes that Moscow will create an antiterrorist coalition in Syria, which will become an alternative version of the military alliance formed by the United States to drop bulk carriers onto ISIS. The military inclusion of China in the struggle for Syria will be a significant addition to today's statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry. At a press conference at MIA Russia Today, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, Hossein Amir Abdollahiyan, said Iran would fight ISIS with Russia. It is remarkable that Amir is not just talking about an alliance, but about creating a broad military coalition.

“We welcome the proposal of the Russian president regarding the creation of a common front against terrorism and are even ready to carry out joint actions and work together in implementing this initiative,” said the Iranian deputy foreign minister.

English-language resources have been writing that Russia will fight terrorists with Iran’s hands for a week. And China’s inclusion in the support group exceeds all imaginable expectations. The presence of an international coalition significantly changes the balance of power in favor of Moscow, untying the Russians their hands for direct military action in the Middle East

[hydrox]

Quote: sinukvl

And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.

We will find out about this next week. Maybe he wants to clash with the ISIS on Iraq more than to support Assad’s power - we don’t know yet, but this is such a fat PLUS in Putin’s report! ;-))

[Cube123]

Quote: sinukvl

And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.

Assad is beneficial for China. Assad does not allow the construction of pipelines from Qatar and the CA to Europe. This is a plus for Russia. For China, the less oil and gas flows from Qatar and the CA to Europe, the more they leak to China.

[hydrox]

=== Tehran and Moscow do not provide coordinated military assistance to Syria, and each country has its own action plan. ===

Well done, well encrypted!
Surely in order not to fall under US sanctions for the Persians, and there will be two fronts, Iraqi and Syrian - and how they agree, the US does not need to know (we clearly do not have enough "democratizers" for a continuous attack by bandits).

[sl22277]

The war in Syria concerns not only Muslims. If the IG is not destroyed now, then the whole world will have to disentangle it. And the IG itself does not care about nationalities and religions, which they prove by killing their co-religionists. And why only with Shiites? There are still Yezidis and Christians, it is necessary to attract Kurds to their side. Destroy all the terrorists, otherwise there will be no peace and tranquility for a long time.

[Sterlya]

something about the participation of China for the first time I hear. or have I rarely been here?

[sl22277]

Sterlya (3) something about the participation of China for the first time I hear. or have I rarely been here?

What are you talking about, and what about China?

[morpogr]

Russia with its allies, instead of talking shops, is engaged in real affairs.

[Gray 43]

Shtatniks will not be delighted when their wards begin to multiply by zero

[alone]

Why Shiites? ISIS is like someone cutting pink. Kurds are mostly Sunnis, Al-Qaeda men from Nusra prefer suicide by blowing a grenade in their hands than falling into their hands, SSA is the same. And he only bet on Shiites like a half-hearted decision and it doesn’t help the common cause. ISIS got everyone. Therefore, it’s extremely impractical to go on about Iran in this matter. Approaching the business in this way will lead to even more serious consequences. This can ignite even more sectarian divisions.

[andrew42]

The Kurds definitely need to be drawn into the new Syrian Coalition. You cannot leave them under the influence of the States. This nation is like a free radical - we are constantly deceived by the West, and we constantly use it for different purposes. That's what the Turks will scream if the Kurds create their own state. And there was nothing to throw against Syria against Syria, and train any "opposition". And the Kurds are not bad fighters, if from a genetic point of view. If the Kurdish elders reoriented themselves to an alliance with Assad, it would be great. Anyway, Iraq (which was under Hussein) ended as such. And the Kurds have every chance to finally create a real state of their own. And this “new little game” should be fought for, so that he will play for the “Syrian-Russian” team. What for? - Yes, then, that some Alawites do not leave, that's why.

[kil 31]

According to US officials, it is not yet known whether representatives of the Iraqi authorities are participating in this, the report says. They have strange sources. They know about Russia and Iran, but not about their vassals.

[Babai Balkan]

The article and comments with footnotes make me happy. I am glad about Russia's activity in general. BUT MOST OF ALL I AM PLEASED THAT "RUSSIA TODAY" is becoming a Mouthpiece of Honesty! THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS BE IN VICTORY!

[VK]

US policy in the Middle East (and not only) fails completely,
need to destroy ISIS, thereby making her a control in the head

[Reptiloid]

Of course, ISIS is not abolished, that is, it goes without saying. Coins are issued. This is a very important symbol of statehood. It will be a new state. The USA has created its double ---.
The United States also began with capture, cruelty, an ISM bandit. To limit the spread, increase the territory of this monster is the most important.

[Irokez]

Quote: Reptiloid

The United States also began with capture, cruelty, an ISM bandit.

And not only the USA but all Westerners in the colonies, well, God's chosen ones were noted.

[andrew42]

Yes, the God-chosen in essence, USA and created. George Washington, on the other hand, worked as a freemason.

[roskot]

Shtatniks are always not enthusiastic about us. Spit over the left shoulder and grate.

[AdekvatNICK]

Wrong to my ears, did China also fit into the coalition?)

[Alexnder]

If we got into a fight, the victory will be ours!
The truth at what price is not yet clear.

[Wils]

provoked a global war between Shiites and Sunnis.

[vorobey]

Quote: Wheels

provoked a global war between Shiites and Sunnis.

And now, a small regional one with the incidental carving of the Druze of the Yezidis of the Alawites and other Christians and Muslims?

[AdekvatNICK]

An airstrike east of Aleppo was fired to drop terrorist formations from the Queris-2 air base, where Syrian army units are defending.

For the first time since their arrival in Syria, the Russian Air Force launched a series of airstrikes northeast of Aleppo province, against the positions of the Islamic state and Ahrar al-Sham militants who joined ISIS to overthrow the Bashar al-Assad regime. The fortifications of Islamic terrorists along the Deir Hafer-Aleppo highway were bombed and attacked from the air, while the Syrian army attacked a militant group on the ground. During the operation, from 120 to 140 bandits were destroyed. In Aleppo itself, street battles are still ongoing, media reported.

Early in the morning on Thursday, the Syrian Armed Forces, in coordination with the National Defense Forces (NDF), conducted a powerful assault on ISIL fortifications in An-Sable, as a result of which they were able to capture part of them southwest of this city, which is located east of Tel Riemann and Al Salkhia.

The air support provided by the Syrian army was provided specifically by Russian aircraft, the Arab publication writes. They, with high accuracy and inexorable brutality, destroyed the militants in the eastern part of Aleppo, the Arabian resource claims. The publication also noted that Russia for the first time physically participated in the Syrian conflict, which lasts 4 years. After completing the mission, all the planes returned to the airfield in the coastal city of Jableh. In addition, Russian aviation patrols the sky over the provinces of Damascus, Latakia and Hama.

According to the senior officer of the Syrian Arab army, these airstrikes of Russian aircraft were agreed with the SAAF, which began to raid along the Rakka-Deir ez-Zor highway, through which reinforcements fit and supply from Iraq. Aviation attacked by Russian intelligence reconnaissance sites. In particular, the camp of the "Azerbaijan battalion", the ammunition depots and the ISIS headquarters in Al-Raqqi were destroyed, led by its commander.

[veksha50]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

the air support was provided specifically by Russian aircraft, writes the Arab edition. They, with high precision and adamant cruelty destroyed the militants

What !!! With cruelty!

What - bombed peaceful cities and civilians ???

[AdekvatNICK]

... and inexorable brutality destroyed the militants ...

[Engineer]

Kurds also need to be connected. They are now in northern Iraq, in fact, created their own state. They have long dreamed about it and therefore it must be used. Promise them recognition as an independent state and help with weapons. Kurds are very good wars and they are not such religious fanatics as the Islamists. Yes, we quarrel with Turkey, but it would have gone with its throwings between Russia and the West. They can’t decide, so we are not on the way.

[gelezo47]

I think that in such a coalition there will be success. Otherwise, you will not see luck ...

[AdekvatNICK]

In the city of Lahti in southern Finland last night, locals threw stones and fires at a bus with refugees. According to preliminary data, no one was hurt. Finnish Prime Minister Juha Sipilä, Foreign Minister Timo Soini and Police Chief Petteri Orpo condemned the attack

[donavi49]

Well, for an easy victory - and we will throw our hats, I would not count. The other side also went over to total war. Moreover, we will have to fight against the "moderate" who are mobilized. An example is the Salafi group from the Islamic Front (NOT ISIS !!! But against Assad) in Jizr al-Shugur. They are preparing for an imminent offensive, training personnel and fresh martyrs.




And such precocious shaheeds were used very well by groups in Iraq at that time - when a group of children came up to the checkpoint, with candy chewing gum, they collected 2-3-4 Americans and exploded. Even an order was issued prohibiting the passage of children into the territory and opening fire when approaching.

[mosquito]

If they are taught to shoot from AK, then VICTORY is ours ... :)

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Iran and Russia began to coordinate their actions in Syria

I think we will cope in such a connection, and then others will catch up .... It's time to restore order in the Middle East! Enough of "crap" in the American way!

[veksha50]

"each country has its own action plan"...

Although each country (Iran, Russia) has its own global geopolitical goals, however, in the battle with ISIS, the common goal should be one - the destruction of the Islamic State ... And then it will be possible to solve other problems ... Destroy the rabid beast first ...

A compromise in the future can always be found ...

[AdekvatNICK]

China is ready to assist the Russian Federation in strengthening the power of Bashar al-Assad and join the Russian military operation in Syria. This was reported by the Voice of Beirut radio station, citing senior sources in the Hezbollah group.

According to the publication, the transfer of soldiers of the People's Liberation Army of China to Syria may begin soon enough. In addition, as Igor Morozov, a member of the Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs, told the NSN, “a Chinese cruiser has already entered the Mediterranean Sea, followed by the Chinese aircraft carrier.”

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin called for a fight against the Islamic State * through assistance to Assad. In mid-September, American media reported that Russian military equipment, supplies for the maintenance of combat aircraft, as well as modular homes for hundreds of military personnel, were imported into Syria. In this regard, the Bloomberg agency suggested that Russia independently plans to begin preparing for airstrikes on the positions of IS fighters in Syria.

[gladysheff2010]

Quote: supertiger21

You can put cons, but I, as a Sunni, care about my fellow believers.

Your resume is inappropriate, since it is not the issues of faith that are discussed, but issues of survival. The fanatics die with faith, and the heroes and martyrs survive with faith. The goal of mankind (and now the question is in this vein) is survival, an alternative is a total war with mass death .

[Denis DV]

It's a lie Fox n ...

[Greyhound famously]

It is unlikely that the Russian Federation will participate in ground operations. With a high degree of probability, we will organize active air support, as well as cruise missile strikes from the cruiser Moskva (it was not for nothing that he went there right now) and the supply of the necessary heavy weapons. And those who are already on the territory - the Syrian army, Hezbola and, possibly, the Iranians - will go on the ground.

[1goose3]

According to Iran’s commander-in-chief Ataoll Salehi, Tehran and Moscow do not provide coordinated military assistance to Syria and each country has its own action plan

Extra, everyone just has their own sector.

[andrew42]

In any case, the moment is extremely favorable from a political point of view. Europe is groaning from the invasion of refugees and "refugees". It's time to beat, "until it started." More precisely, until the acuteness of "refugee" has not subsided. Then it will be more problematic politically, negotiators, mediators, humanists, all sorts of tolerances will come running in - to sit at the negotiating table with IS. This is not an option. IS must be defeated and disorganized now (the locals will finish it off), or it must be stopped extremely harshly, so that it coughs up and decays.

[Crown]

If China harnessed, then we will jointly squeeze the United States out of the region.