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Media: Russia, Iran, Syria have created a center to attract Shiites to fight the IG

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Iranian, Syrian and Russian military set up a coordination center in Baghdad to try to start cooperation with Shiites in the fight against a terrorist organization "Islamic State", the channel reports Fox News with reference to the data of special services.


Media: Russia, Iran, Syria have created a center to attract Shiites to fight the IG


According to US officials, it is not yet known whether representatives of the Iraqi authorities are participating in this, the report says.

According to military sources Fox News, Russian Su aircraft began to make departures from the airport named after Latakia, but limited to flights over the base.

The Wall Street Journal several days earlier wrote that Iran and Russia began to coordinate their actions in Syria, which are aimed at preserving the regime of President Bashar Assad, however, according to Iranian commander Ataolla Salehi, Tehran and Moscow do not provide Syria with coordinated military assistance and each country has its own plan of action.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 25 September 2015 11: 13 New
    11
    Fox News со ссылкой на данные спецслужб. Если правда - значит "мочить" ИГ будут по взрослому.
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 September 2015 11: 21 New
      +4
      Координация, разведка, авиация... пока по земле не прошли пехота и танки она остается под врагом. С этим как быть? Без крупномасштабной наземной операции не обойтись. Готова к ней обескровленная сирийская армия? Или может бывшие военные Саддама, которые сами сейчас в Игил в большинстве своем? Захотят ли сами шииты "привлекаться" на такое трудное и опасное дело? Вон их народ Европу штурмует, вместо того, чтобы родную землю защищать. Опять российским солдатам придется "тащить"?soldier
      1. alone
        alone 25 September 2015 11: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: marlin1203
        Опять российским солдатам придется "тащить"?

        Probably have to, once the decision is made.
        1. DV69
          DV69 25 September 2015 11: 58 New
          14
          русским солдатам придется тащить, потому, что "таща" в Сирии, они будут защищать Россию. Помните заявления лидеров ИГ о том, что Кавказ должен быть свободен?
          Better to drag in the Middle East than near Krasnodar.
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 25 September 2015 12: 51 New
            +3
            Why Shiites? Once again, the Iraqi Shiite-Kurdish junta wants to show Shi’s dominance over the Sunnis, although the Sunnis make up 65-70% of the Iraqi population. No.
            PS You can put cons, but I, as a Sunni, care about my fellow believers.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 25 September 2015 13: 04 New
              +2
              Well, you have to face the truth. The only fighting force today is the Shiite police + Iranian volunteers. Yes, they show stiffness no less than the IG, burning alive, cutting, killing, frying shawarma from the freshly caught, conduct mass repressions of the Sunni population. But the other alternative is only IG.

              An attempt to create a Sunni tribal militia supported by army units mainly by Sunnis (and not some, but by elite units of the ISOF + 9 tank division) ended in Ramadi, who fell in less than a week, and there were 4 times more list of defending Iraqi soldiers than attacking at the beginning.

              Now Ramadi almost repeated in Tikrit. When the IS made a maneuver and began to attack the city, protected mainly by the Sunni militia, with the rear units, army men and police. Fortunately, from the Spencer base, the Americans helped with fire and support with air. But this was in their selfish interests. Now the IS seems to have rolled back, taking moderately loot from 2 of the defeated Iraqi bases in Tikrit.
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 25 September 2015 13: 15 New
              +3
              Quote: supertiger21
              Why Shiites?

              I think Fox News, as always, is engaged in provocations. Shiites have been fighting with bandits for so long, most likely a headquarters is being created to coordinate actions with Sunnis who want to speak out against those who, under the guise of slogans about the purity of Islam, instill terror and lawlessness on the lands they seized.
              1. supertiger21
                supertiger21 25 September 2015 13: 58 New
                +2
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Quote: supertiger21
                Why Shiites?

                I think Fox News, as always, is engaged in provocations. Shiites have been fighting with bandits for so long, most likely a headquarters is being created to coordinate actions with Sunnis who want to speak out against those who, under the guise of slogans about the purity of Islam, instill terror and lawlessness on the lands they seized.


                Padded jacket, that's what I’m talking about. If you fight against ISIS, then connect the Sunnis then, otherwise it turns out a kind of discrimination. soldier
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 25 September 2015 14: 24 New
                  0
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  If you fight against ISIS, then connect the Sunnis then, otherwise it turns out a kind of discrimination.

                  Полностью согласен это "зло" должны уничтожить люди всех вероисповеданий так как оно несёт только ненависть и вражду между религиями.
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 25 September 2015 18: 29 New
                    0
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Полностью согласен это "зло" должны уничтожить люди всех вероисповеданий так как оно несёт только ненависть и вражду между религиями.

                    You don’t want to understand that ISIS’s recharge is Sunni ???
                    And about why not the Kurds. So everyone in the East and beyond knows that the patron of the Kurds and the Kurdish project is the United States and Israel. And there’s no point in climbing Russia and Iran there. Northern Iraq, where the Kurds all control the US project and they get full support. Therefore, there remains 1 ardent opponent who will fight to the death against Yig to death and will not betray Russia and Iran, these are Shiites. Since survival and complete destruction are at stake.
                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 25 September 2015 18: 42 New
                      0
                      Quote: Yeraz
                      You don’t want to understand that ISIS’s recharge is Sunnis ???

                      Yes, I do not deny that there are mostly Sunnis, but far from all Sunnis living on the earth there, the bulk of the Sunnis also do not accept this inhuman ideology aimed at the destruction of all those who disagree with them. And in the army and government of Syria and throughout the world, many people of the Sunni branch of Islam support Assad and his fight against terrorism, in particular with the Islamic State.
            3. APASUS
              APASUS 25 September 2015 19: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: supertiger21
              Why Shiites? Once again, the Iraqi Shiite-Kurdish junta wants to show Shi’s dominance over the Sunnis, although the Sunnis make up 65-70% of the Iraqi population. No.
              PS You can put cons, but I, as a Sunni, care about my fellow believers.

              The task of Russia, as far as possible, is to unite and coordinate the efforts of heterogeneous groups ready to fight with ISIS. This is a task for the near future. At the same time, Putin suggested that Assad pay attention to reforms in the state. It should be contrary to the desire of the Americans to find a real middle ground for uniting all the country's national groups.
              I don’t know how to get the second de Gaulle out of it, but the tasks are daunting
      2. Samurai3X
        Samurai3X 25 September 2015 11: 50 New
        +3
        I doubt that the Russian soldiers will have to drag, for this there are Syrian. The biggest problem is that the IG - state. With the ministries, with all the necessary structures. This is not a huge terrorist organization. Therefore, first of all, intelligence is needed on the mechanisms of interaction in this state. It is clear that everything rests on certain people. Any organizational system (be it a corporation, state, etc.) rests on key people. These people are not always in sight. By removing key people, the state will cease to function as needed. After this, an offensive on a certain front or some major victory over this state will disperse it. No need to think that in the leadership of the IG complete psychos are sitting. On the ground, they received a mandate for government from the population (mostly Sunni). Partly by intimidation shares, partly by bribery, but they are supported. It is necessary to shake the confidence of the people, and then affirm in the minds of people that they live wrongly, not according to the Quran (here I think sensible Sunni imams will work).
        IMHO: I think that in draft the plan is as follows.
        1. brr1
          brr1 25 September 2015 12: 31 New
          0
          Just the fact that this state allows you to identify key objects to be destroyed.
        2. mosquit
          mosquit 25 September 2015 19: 36 New
          0
          IG is a virtual structure ..
      3. kot stepan
        kot stepan 25 September 2015 12: 04 New
        +3
        Not so simple.
        http://postskriptum.org/2015/09/25/latakia-34/2/ (переключатель страниц под статьёй - всего четыре странички)
        Operation operation, but most importantly - the support of the population of the liberated territories. A successful counterguerrilla warfare is based on two main conditions - cutting off support from outside and cutting off support from the population (for partisans, of course). If, at least, one of the conditions is not fulfilled - you can fight with the partisans endlessly.
        Assad has big problems in this regard. A split in the Syrian society on religious grounds (Shiite-Sunites) is present. Part of the army cannot be used for its intended purpose - low reliability.
        Bet on Shiites. Perhaps, at the moment, the right decision, perhaps the only right one. But without the support of most of the Sunnis, Syria will never exist within its former borders. For the time being, it’s possible to save.
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 25 September 2015 13: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        Опять российским солдатам придется "тащить"?



        But this is already extremely undesirable ...

        Equipment-weapons-ammunition-advisers - yes ... Intelligence data (any - space, electronic, air) - provide timely ... Protection of airspace ...

        But purely ground operations should be carried out only by Syrian government troops with local allies ...
  2. KAV
    KAV 25 September 2015 11: 13 New
    +4
    Молодцы! Пока там "партнеры" занимаются соплежуйством и словоблудием - наши делают.
    1. little girl15
      little girl15 25 September 2015 11: 22 New
      +6
      This is a real coalition against ISIS and not a state affiliation club.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 September 2015 11: 13 New
    +5
    Iranian, Syrian and Russian military establish coordination center in Baghdad

    A new bone in the throat of the United States, and not a small one. Now they will try to discredit this undertaking.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 25 September 2015 11: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Now they will try to discredit this undertaking.

      Late, after 2 days, Putin’s report to the UN General Assembly - they won’t have time to change anything in the report. And Putin now oh how to have beautiful data on the number of destroyed ISIS, liberated cities and cleared square. kilometers ...
  4. vovanpain
    vovanpain 25 September 2015 11: 14 New
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    But the coalition is nevertheless created and, in contrast to the state coalition, is very effective.
    1. sinukvl
      sinukvl 25 September 2015 11: 17 New
      +4
      And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 25 September 2015 11: 23 New
        +9
        Quote: sinukvl
        And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.


        There is no confirmation of official sources in the next branch yet ..

        The Arab resource almasdarnews.com reports that the military contingent of the PRC is already on its way to Latakia and will arrive at Syrian ports from day to day. Chinese transport with military cargo was spotted on Tuesday morning passing through the Suez Canal.

        The information that the Chinese military experts may arrive in Tartus in the coming weeks was confirmed by the commander of the Syrian army. The publication concludes that Moscow will create an antiterrorist coalition in Syria, which will become an alternative version of the military alliance formed by the United States to drop bulk carriers onto ISIS. The military inclusion of China in the struggle for Syria will be a significant addition to today's statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry. At a press conference at MIA Russia Today, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, Hossein Amir Abdollahiyan, said Iran would fight ISIS with Russia. It is remarkable that Amir is not just talking about an alliance, but about creating a broad military coalition.

        “We welcome the proposal of the Russian president regarding the creation of a common front against terrorism and are even ready to carry out joint actions and work together in implementing this initiative,” said the Iranian deputy foreign minister.

        English-language resources have been writing that Russia will fight terrorists with Iran’s hands for a week. And China’s inclusion in the support group exceeds all imaginable expectations. The presence of an international coalition significantly changes the balance of power in favor of Moscow, untying the Russians their hands for direct military action in the Middle East
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 25 September 2015 11: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: sinukvl
        And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.

        We will find out about this next week. Maybe he wants to clash with the ISIS on Iraq more than to support Assad’s power - we don’t know yet, but this is such a fat PLUS in Putin’s report! ;-))
      3. Cube123
        Cube123 25 September 2015 11: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: sinukvl
        And it looks like China has also joined our coalition.

        Assad is beneficial for China. Assad does not allow the construction of pipelines from Qatar and the CA to Europe. This is a plus for Russia. For China, the less oil and gas flows from Qatar and the CA to Europe, the more they leak to China.
  5. hydrox
    hydrox 25 September 2015 11: 17 New
    +1
    === Tehran and Moscow do not provide coordinated military assistance to Syria, and each country has its own action plan. ===

    Well done, well encrypted!
    Наверняка для того, чтобы не попасть персам под штатовские санкции, да и фронтов будет два, иракский и сирийский - а уж как они договорятся, Штатам знать не обязательно (у нас явно не хватает "демократизаторов" для непрерывной атаки бандюков).
  6. sl22277
    sl22277 25 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +5
    The war in Syria concerns not only Muslims. If the IG is not destroyed now, then the whole world will have to disentangle it. And the IG itself does not care about nationalities and religions, which they prove by killing their co-religionists. And why only with Shiites? There are still Yezidis and Christians, it is necessary to attract Kurds to their side. Destroy all the terrorists, otherwise there will be no peace and tranquility for a long time.
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 25 September 2015 12: 06 New
      0
      something about the participation of China for the first time I hear. or have I rarely been here?
      1. sl22277
        sl22277 25 September 2015 12: 54 New
        +1
        Sterlya (3) something about the participation of China for the first time I hear. or have I rarely been here?

        What are you talking about, and what about China?
  7. morpogr
    morpogr 25 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +1
    Russia with its allies, instead of talking shops, is engaged in real affairs.
  8. Gray 43
    Gray 43 25 September 2015 11: 25 New
    +2
    Shtatniks will not be delighted when their wards begin to multiply by zero
  9. alone
    alone 25 September 2015 11: 34 New
    +3
    Why Shiites? ISIS is like someone cutting pink. Kurds are mostly Sunnis, Al-Qaeda men from Nusra prefer suicide by blowing a grenade in their hands than falling into their hands, SSA is the same. And he only bet on Shiites like a half-hearted decision and it doesn’t help the common cause. ISIS got everyone. Therefore, it’s extremely impractical to go on about Iran in this matter. Approaching the business in this way will lead to even more serious consequences. This can ignite even more sectarian divisions.
  10. andrew42
    andrew42 25 September 2015 11: 35 New
    +4
    Курдов однозначно нужно перетягивать в новую Сирийскую Коалицию. Оставлять их под влиянием Штатов нельзя. Этот народ как свободный радикал, - постоянно обманываем Западом, и постоянно пользуем для разных целей. То-то турки взвоют, если Курды своё государство создадут. А нечего было против Сирии подлянки кидать, и тренировать всяких "оппозиционеров". А бойцы курды неплохие, если с генетической точки зрения. Если бы курдские старейшины переориентировались на союз с Асадом, было бы отлично. Всё равно Ирак (который был при Хусейне) кончился как таковой. И у курдов есть все шансы наконец то создать реальное своЁ государство. И за этого "нового игрочка" следует побороться ,чтобы он заиграл "сирийско-российской" команде. Зачем? - Да затем ,что на одних алавитах не выехать, вот зачем.
  11. kil 31
    kil 31 25 September 2015 11: 35 New
    +3
    According to US officials, it is not yet known whether representatives of the Iraqi authorities are participating in this, the report says. They have strange sources. They know about Russia and Iran, but not about their vassals. request
  12. Babai Balkan
    Babai Balkan 25 September 2015 11: 36 New
    +4
    Статья и комменты со сносками- меня радуют. Радует вообще деятельность России. НО БОЛЬШЕ ВСЕГО РАДУЕТ, ЧТО "РОССИЯ СЕГОДНЯ"- становится РУПОРОМ ЧЕСТНОСТИ! ПРАВДА БУДЕТ ВСЕГДА В ПОБЕДЕ!
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  13. VK
    VK 25 September 2015 11: 40 New
    +1
    US policy in the Middle East (and not only) fails completely,
    need to destroy ISIS, thereby making her a control in the head soldier
  14. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 September 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Of course, ISIS is not abolished, that is, it goes without saying. Coins are issued. This is a very important symbol of statehood. It will be a new state. The USA has created its double ---.
    The United States also began with capture, cruelty, an ISM bandit. To limit the spread, increase the territory of this monster is the most important.
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 25 September 2015 12: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Reptiloid
      The United States also began with capture, cruelty, an ISM bandit.

      And not only the USA but all Westerners in the colonies, well, God's chosen ones were noted.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 25 September 2015 18: 10 New
        +1
        Yes, the God-chosen in essence, USA and created. George Washington, on the other hand, worked as a freemason.
  15. roskot
    roskot 25 September 2015 11: 47 New
    0
    Shtatniks are always not enthusiastic about us. Spit over the left shoulder and grate.
  16. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 11: 51 New
    +1
    Wrong to my ears, did China also fit into the coalition?)
  17. Alexnder
    Alexnder 25 September 2015 11: 52 New
    +1
    If we got into a fight, the victory will be ours!
    The truth at what price is not yet clear.
  18. Wils
    Wils 25 September 2015 11: 55 New
    +1
    provoked a global war between Shiites and Sunnis.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 September 2015 12: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Wheels
      provoked a global war between Shiites and Sunnis.


      And now, a small regional one with the incidental carving of the Druze of the Yezidis of the Alawites and other Christians and Muslims?
  19. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 11: 55 New
    +4
    An airstrike east of Aleppo was fired to drop terrorist formations from the Queris-2 air base, where Syrian army units are defending.

    For the first time since their arrival in Syria, the Russian Air Force launched a series of airstrikes northeast of Aleppo province, against the positions of the Islamic state and Ahrar al-Sham militants who joined ISIS to overthrow the Bashar al-Assad regime. The fortifications of Islamic terrorists along the Deir Hafer-Aleppo highway were bombed and attacked from the air, while the Syrian army attacked a militant group on the ground. During the operation, from 120 to 140 bandits were destroyed. In Aleppo itself, street battles are still ongoing, media reported.

    Early in the morning on Thursday, the Syrian Armed Forces, in coordination with the National Defense Forces (NDF), conducted a powerful assault on ISIL fortifications in An-Sable, as a result of which they were able to capture part of them southwest of this city, which is located east of Tel Riemann and Al Salkhia.

    The air support provided by the Syrian army was provided specifically by Russian aircraft, the Arab publication writes. They, with high accuracy and inexorable brutality, destroyed the militants in the eastern part of Aleppo, the Arabian resource claims. The publication also noted that Russia for the first time physically participated in the Syrian conflict, which lasts 4 years. After completing the mission, all the planes returned to the airfield in the coastal city of Jableh. In addition, Russian aviation patrols the sky over the provinces of Damascus, Latakia and Hama.

    According to the senior officer of the Syrian Arab army, these airstrikes of Russian aircraft were agreed with the SAAF, which began to raid along the Rakka-Deir ez-Zor highway, through which reinforcements fit and supply from Iraq. Aviation attacked by Russian intelligence reconnaissance sites. In particular, the camp of the "Azerbaijan battalion", the ammunition depots and the ISIS headquarters in Al-Raqqi were destroyed, led by its commander.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 25 September 2015 13: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      the air support was provided specifically by Russian aircraft, writes the Arab edition. They, with high precision and adamant cruelty destroyed the militants


      What !!! With cruelty!

      What - bombed peaceful cities and civilians ???
      1. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 13: 41 New
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        ... and inexorable brutality destroyed the militants ...
  20. Engineer
    Engineer 25 September 2015 12: 03 New
    +2
    Kurds also need to be connected. They are now in northern Iraq, in fact, created their own state. They have long dreamed about it and therefore it must be used. Promise them recognition as an independent state and help with weapons. Kurds are very good wars and they are not such religious fanatics as the Islamists. Yes, we quarrel with Turkey, but it would have gone with its throwings between Russia and the West. They can’t decide, so we are not on the way.
  21. gelezo47
    gelezo47 25 September 2015 12: 15 New
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    I think that in such a coalition there will be success. Otherwise, you will not see luck ... soldier
  22. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 12: 38 New
    +1
    In the city of Lahti in southern Finland last night, locals threw stones and fires at a bus with refugees. According to preliminary data, no one was hurt. Finnish Prime Minister Juha Sipilä, Foreign Minister Timo Soini and Police Chief Petteri Orpo condemned the attack
  23. donavi49
    donavi49 25 September 2015 12: 39 New
    +4
    Ну на легкую победу - и шапками закидаем, я бы не рассчитывал. Другая сторона тоже перешла на тотальную войну. Причем, воевать придется и с "умереными", которые мобилизуются. Пример салафитская группировка из Исламского Фронта (НЕ ИГ!!! Но против Асада) в Джизр-аль-Шугур. Готовятся к скорому наступлению, тренируют кадры и свежих шахидов.




    And such precocious shaheeds were used very well by groups in Iraq at that time - when a group of children came up to the checkpoint, with candy chewing gum, they collected 2-3-4 Americans and exploded. Even an order was issued prohibiting the passage of children into the territory and opening fire when approaching.
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    2. mosquit
      mosquit 25 September 2015 19: 41 New
      -1
      If they are taught to shoot from AK, then VICTORY is ours ... :)
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 September 2015 12: 58 New
    +6
    Iran and Russia began to coordinate their actions in Syria

    Думаю справимся в такой сцепке, а там и другие подтянуться....Пора наводить порядок на Ближнем востоке!Хватит уже "дерьмократии" по американски!
  25. veksha50
    veksha50 25 September 2015 13: 19 New
    +1
    "each country has its own action plan"...

    Although each country (Iran, Russia) has its own global geopolitical goals, however, in the battle with ISIS, the common goal should be one - the destruction of the Islamic State ... And then it will be possible to solve other problems ... Destroy the rabid beast first ...

    A compromise in the future can always be found ...
  26. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 September 2015 13: 23 New
    +1
    China is ready to assist the Russian Federation in strengthening the power of Bashar al-Assad and join the Russian military operation in Syria. This was reported by the Voice of Beirut radio station, citing senior sources in the Hezbollah group.

    According to the publication, the transfer of soldiers of the People's Liberation Army of China to Syria may begin soon enough. In addition, as Igor Morozov, a member of the Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs, told the NSN, “a Chinese cruiser has already entered the Mediterranean Sea, followed by the Chinese aircraft carrier.”

    Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin called for a fight against the Islamic State * through assistance to Assad. In mid-September, American media reported that Russian military equipment, supplies for the maintenance of combat aircraft, as well as modular homes for hundreds of military personnel, were imported into Syria. In this regard, the Bloomberg agency suggested that Russia independently plans to begin preparing for airstrikes on the positions of IS fighters in Syria.
  27. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 25 September 2015 13: 26 New
    +3
    Quote: supertiger21
    You can put cons, but I, as a Sunni, care about my fellow believers.

    Your resume is inappropriate, since it is not the issues of faith that are discussed, but issues of survival. The fanatics die with faith, and the heroes and martyrs survive with faith. The goal of mankind (and now the question is in this vein) is survival, an alternative is a total war with mass death .
  28. Denis DV
    Denis DV 25 September 2015 14: 04 New
    +1
    It's a lie bully Fox n ...
  29. Greyhound famously
    Greyhound famously 25 September 2015 14: 20 New
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    Вряд ли со стороны РФ будет участие в наземных операциях. С большой долей вероятности мы организуем активную поддержку с воздуха а также удары крылатыми ракетами с крейсера "Москва" (не даром же он туда пошёл именно сейчас) и поставку необходимого тяжёлого вооружения. А по земле пойдут те кто уже есть на территории - сирийская армия, "Хезбола" и , возможно, иранцы.
  30. 1goose3
    1goose3 25 September 2015 17: 20 New
    +1
    According to Iran’s commander-in-chief Ataoll Salehi, Tehran and Moscow do not provide coordinated military assistance to Syria and each country has its own action plan

    Extra, everyone just has their own sector.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 25 September 2015 18: 17 New
      +1
      В любом случае, момент крайне выгодный с политической точки зрения. Европа стенает от нашествия беженцев и "беженцев". Самое время бить, "пока не началось". Точнее пока острота "беженства" не сошла на нет. Потом будет проблемнее политически, набегут переговорщики, посредники, гуманисты, толесраты всякие, - садить за стол переговоров с ИГ. Это не вариант. ИГ нужно разгромить и дезорганизовать сейчас (местные добьют) , или крайне жестко купировать, чтоб закуклилось и захирело.
  31. Crown
    Crown 25 September 2015 20: 42 New
    +2
    If China harnessed, then we will jointly squeeze the United States out of the region.