Dying dollar

Dying dollarThe theme of the coming "death of the dollar" is not new. Some experts say that there are so many dollars printed that if the truth about this is revealed, the kirdyk will immediately come to the US currency. Others argue that the dollar will bury a huge US national debt, which is growing endlessly. Still others think that the dollar will seriously crush the yuan - just as China in the world economy will press America.


In an article by Wolf Richter (Wolf Richter), published on the portal "Wolf Street", it is indicated that the world, holding its breath, is waiting for the “Death of the Dollar”. But will the dollar die?

Around everyone asks about the approaching "death of the dollar." Some people expect the demise of the American currency from day to day. There was a whole industry of soothsayers, talking about what would follow the collapse of the dollar. The advice of these gurus is a kind of insurance, the author believes, a senseless insurance of this kind, which is never useful to a person.

The dollar is not something supernatural; This is a piece of paper that people have come up with. The creation of man. Paper does not live "its own life." The dollar can be faked, it can be manipulated; it is an object for accounting, a way of saving and a means of circulation. You can change it, say, to Lexus.

In the long term, the analyst believes, the dollar will still lose its value. He just depreciate.

A strong dollar leads to chaos in emerging markets. The fact is that governments and corporations took out loans in dollars, trying to save on interest on payments. And what came of this "economy"? These unfortunates can no longer service their debts: their currencies collapse against the dollar, and it becomes very expensive to service accumulated debts. Debt holders may fail if someone does not give them more dollars.

Another important circumstance: a “strong” dollar suppresses US exports and at the same time increases imports.

What is the actual value of a dollar? This is his purchasing power at home. But how much can you buy a dollar in 1 in the States?

In the old days for a dollar you could spend the night in a hotel. Later, the Motel 6 network appeared: a standard room for the night cost 6 $ there. It was in the seventies of the last century. Now people do not even remember why this name - “Motel 6”.

The author notes in his memory only three quarters (during the financial crisis), when the published data showed: the purchasing power of the dollar is actually growing.

Investments in assets? They show that here the value of the dollar is rapidly falling, the author believes.

Now you need to spend $ 1,2 million to buy an average house in San Francisco or a two-bedroom apartment in a “so-so” neighborhood. In 1993, a similar average house in the same area would cost 250.000 $. Apartments did not get bigger or better; This dollar has fallen in value relative to other assets.

The same thing happened with stocks, bonds, cars, works of art: for a dollar you can buy a lot less than before.

It is curious, however, that the dollar is able to reverse the course of events: it suddenly rises in price in relation to such assets as stocks or real estate. It makes consumers nervous. They begin to talk about the “catastrophe” and try to get rid of these assets, which, in turn, leads to the strengthening of the dollar: it becomes the most desirable asset.

Now to the international position of the dollar. According to the author, the hegemony of the dollar in international trade decreases.

Earlier, the dollar dominated the world as a key currency (petrodollar is an excellent example).

There was a competitor - the euro. According to the analyst, the euro was created to counterbalance the hegemony of the dollar. In 2005, the eurozone had plenty of opportunities for a currency breakthrough. They even said that oil from Saudi Arabia is about to start buying for euros. Trade will be dedollarized. The euro has become the second largest trading currency in the world.

And what about today?

In a report from 1 September, SWIFT points out that in July 2015 43,6% of world payments were in dollars; 28,5% - in euros. These figures are very volatile, and there were months when the euro rose above the dollar. "Number three" was the British pound (8,7%). “Number Four” is the Japanese Yen (2,9%). And “number five” is the Chinese yuan (2,3%). The rise of the yuan occurred in Asia. However, "this is just a tiny grain of sand," the browser believes.

Thus, he concludes, the “dedollarization” of trade is indeed taking place. However, its pace is extremely slow. Probably, the dollar will remain for a long time (especially considering the size of the US economy) in the top three currencies involved in world trade.

They say that the yuan can become a new reserve currency. So be it. For example, yuan will begin to appear on the balance sheets of the central banks of the world. These changes are happening now, but at a terribly slow pace. Nevertheless, changes are underway, and in the end, the yuan will inevitably play an important role as a reserve currency. One thing is certain: in the foreseeable future, neither the euro nor the yuan will be able to remove the dollar from its place in the basket of reserve currencies.

What's next?

Next - the continuation of the war with cash. Soon this money will become extinct. Young people, Richter writes, "do not even carry cash with them." Electronic payments prevail in trade. Anonymity when paying in cash is so expensive that it loses its meaning. Keep hundred dollar bills under the mattress? But this “will make the bed uneven,” the author exclaims. In short, a cash dollar someday will certainly die.

And if you look into the future? "The long-term fate of the dollar," the author believes, will go "down."

As for the present, we present some financial reports on the dollar and consumer activity in the United States.

The dollar continued to fall against other major currencies after the release of ambiguous US economic reports, reports Investing.com. The sentiment regarding the American currency remains low. The September index of 24, which shows the ratio of the US dollar against the basket of major currencies, fell by 0,44% (to 95,97), falling from the one-month maximum of 96,65 reached the previous day.

According to the US Department of Commerce, the volume of orders for durable goods last month fell by 2,0%.

It looks like there are really no bright prospects.

Observed Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. svp67 28 September 2015 06: 04 New
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    "The death of the dollar," it's like the "death of Isolde," for a long time and sadly ...
    1. fennekRUS 28 September 2015 08: 20 New
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      Quote: svp67
      The death of the dollar, "it's like" the death of Isolde, "for a long time and sadly ...

      well, it’s written right in the article, “The dollar is not something supernatural; it is a piece of paper that people have come up with. A man’s creation. A piece of paper does not live" its own life. " Especially for "all-crawler". There will be no collapse, there will be a smooth glide under the hill. However, this is common to all world currencies. Well, and fluctuations in specific gravity in circulation. Article plus.
      1. Shadowcat 28 September 2015 08: 36 New
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        Quote: fennekRUS
        There will be no collapse, there will be a smooth glide under the hill.

        The issue of current is the coolness of this slide. The main thing is not to forget the sled, otherwise on the bare ass (the back of the body) a little unpleasant glides into the track. You can erase.
        (All the same, given globalization, the domino principle will work very well)
        1. Papakiko 28 September 2015 09: 46 New
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          Quote: ShadowCat
          You can erase.

          I am "wildly sorry", but how much can I blow into sewer pipes?
          Crash $ is an endless "button accordion" of the last 10 years.
          Over these 10 years, the ruble and other currencies of second-order countries have become shallow at times and tens (sometimes thousands) times.
          And what happens to $ for these same times?
          ........................................
          So let's all together say thanks to Oleg for taking care.
          “VO” is not “Komersant” or “Vedomosti” and here-here economic forecasts and fantasies are not appropriate, and so for some instances it’s “bad with a roof”.
          And to all Comrades: As long as you all live on credit (Mortgages, car loans and loans) on a credit needle, be $ at the head of the world economy (this is ONCE).
          And TWO, this is: You can always unleash a world carnage and then restore everyone (Marshall Plan 1947-71).
          1. Shadowcat 28 September 2015 10: 41 New
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            Quote: Papakiko
            Crash $ is an endless "button accordion" of the last 10 years.

            I have never argued with you and do not argue with anyone.
            I just soberly comprehend what will happen if the dollar falls and perfectly imagine the consequences of the collapse. Although I don’t set the hashtag # dolarzhivi (set the devil), but still I’m not sure if a scribbler or protracted convulsions are better.
            1. Papakiko 29 September 2015 15: 17 New
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              Quote: ShadowCat
              I just soberly comprehend what will happen if the dollar falls and perfectly imagine the consequences of the collapse.

              Comrad, what kind of global collapse are you talking about?
              You have $ equalized with electricity in electronic networks.
              Or is $ water?
              Or maybe $ -air oxygen?
              Or is this food on the tables of every people?
              Within 1 ONE hour (ONE hour, CARL!) world exchanges and national banks can switch to any currency.
              Everything else is not endless tags about "human rights" and "democracy" in all countries of the world.
        2. fennekRUS 28 September 2015 10: 32 New
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          Quote: ShadowCat
          The issue of current is the coolness of this slide.

          I agree with you. But given the global connections of economies, let's go all, a train. So everyone will pour sand on the slope. Otherwise, a too sharp redistribution will happen, and the elites are not interested in losing their penny ** a penny.
        3. Sterlya 28 September 2015 22: 48 New
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          dollar. Americans as the most skilled fraudsters use this tool skillfully.
      2. marlin1203 28 September 2015 09: 52 New
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        The only pity is that in this slide, the ruble slides ahead of the dollar. Everyone understands the absurdity of this situation, but they support the dollar with their demand. The paradox however ...
        1. Altona 28 September 2015 10: 23 New
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          Quote: marlin1203
          The only pity is that in this slide, the ruble slides ahead of the dollar. Everyone understands the absurdity of this situation, but they support the dollar with their demand. The paradox however ...

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          The ruble is slipping through the fault of international speculators, who are unlimited in their possibilities ... The population does not have the opportunity to buy foreign currency, and we don’t need it, it’s full of expenses to tie our money in foreign currency ... Our entire ruble mass is 0,06% to the entire dollar mass, Glazyev wrote somewhere ... That is, compare 100 kg and a 60-gram pack of paper ... Can you take it out from under 100 kg of weight in one motion and not tear it?
          1. atalef 28 September 2015 10: 36 New
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            The ruble slides through the fault of international speculators

            And what do they do with the ruble, that it slides down?
            Quote: Altona
            .Our entire ruble mass is 0,06%

            And now what?
            Quote: Altona
            . That is, compare 100 kg and a 60-gram pack of paper ... Can you take it out from under 100 kg of weight in one motion and not tear it?

            And in Zimbabwe, how much money, and one hell
        2. atalef 28 September 2015 10: 34 New
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          Quote: marlin1203
          The only pity is that in this slide, the ruble slides ahead of the dollar.

          they also slide in different directions
          Quote: marlin1203
          Everyone understands the absurdity of this situation.

          The absurdity? What is 7
          1. saturn.mmm 28 September 2015 19: 35 New
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            Quote: atalef
            they also slide in different directions

            And what is good for the economy, with the negative balance of the United States, the fact that their dollar is getting more expensive?
        3. gladcu2 28 September 2015 19: 34 New
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          marlin1203

          Nothing paradoxical.

          The article deliberately fools. Only a cursory glance for the layman.

          All world currencies are pegged to the dollar. And the value of the dollar is regulated by the IMF.

          The main system error is a high bank interest rate and uncontrolled speculation. When they come to a situation where they can gain control over speculations, they will leave the IMF with their minimum percentage, and destroy the dollar mass, like it was done in 1961 in the USSR.
          BRICS Bank, if by that time it will have developed to the required size, will remain to exist as a counterbalance structure.
          1. user 28 September 2015 20: 30 New
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            And the value of the dollar is regulated by the IMF.


            You are right about this, but look, so many events have taken place over the year that the question of the collapse of the dollar is already very few of the world's serious players are interested, even in the short term (everyone understands that this is just a matter of time). Everyone is waiting for the completion of several new projects.
            They can be listed, this is not long:

            - BRICS.
            - Asian Bank for Infrastructure Investment (AIIB).
            - Asia-Pacific Free Trade Area.
            - Transatlantic free trade zone.
            - Project "New Silk Road".

            Against the background of these projects, the fate of the dollar does not look so priority, because we are talking about reformatting as (no more and no less):

            - the entire banking system,
            - the entire financial system,
            - practically all trade relations,
            - changes in a very large part of the trade routes,
            - redistribution of most of the sales markets,
            - Yes, and the list (if all agreements are implemented) of reserve currencies will be well adjusted (in terms of their purchasing power).

            Well, I think the fate of the dollar will be decided by itself, naturally after the implementation of these agreements.
      3. Nikolay K 28 September 2015 18: 39 New
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        I do not agree. As soon as the dollar begins to decline steadily, investors will immediately lose interest in it and then a collapse is inevitable. The Americans also understand this, because by all means they maintain interest in their currency. And when do investors start frantically buying dollars? It is correct when crisis and instability occur in other markets, especially developing ones. Americans successfully use this simple rule, sometimes artificially creating instability factors in the world. And while they succeed.
        1. gladcu2 28 September 2015 22: 18 New
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          Nikolay K. user

          And that is why the dollar is artificially supported on that level so that no doubts arise.

          Dolar will still live and must live for a long time. It should. Since the integration of all countries in the world system is tied to dolar, as a standard.
          Neither the yuan nor the ruble are planning to raise to the podium. First you need to get out of the banking crisis or the crisis of capitalism, and then they will look.
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    3. Conductor 28 September 2015 09: 00 New
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      "Rotting West" everything rots, but does not rot.
      Even 20 years ago I heard- "Yes, everything, such a system can not exist for a long time, a couple of years and they finally fall apart ..." Already 2015 laughing and Chuvakin’s articles, as if saying, “Don’t worry, Europe will finally rot.
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      Without availability it will be bad, very.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 06: 05 New
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    that he’s dying for a very long time, such a chuyka that I’ll “crack” faster than I’ll see the collapse of this candy wrapper ... recourse lol
    1. svp67 28 September 2015 06: 09 New
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      Quote: Andrew Y.
      that he’s dying for a very long time, such a chuyka that I’ll “crack” faster than I’ll see the collapse of this candy wrapper ...

      hi
      In, in ... and I'm afraid of that. Well, how many have already been printed and how long will it take to destroy them ...
      Although the “Bronieoptimist” is against, he is already expecting a “collapse” tomorrow
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 06: 16 New
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        Although the “Bronieoptimist” is against, he is already expecting a “collapse” tomorrow

        well, tomorrow will tell you how it was .. wait! yes
    2. inkass_98 28 September 2015 06: 43 New
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      such a chuyka that I’ll “grunt” faster

      "- What is it?
      - "The Death of Isolde"
      - Something painfully hard dying ...
      - Classically! ":) (C)" Volga-Volga "
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 07: 00 New
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        ..."- What is it?

        you about the "grunt"? ... well, this: I’ll give an oak, glue the fins, drop the hooves, introduce myself, shame, cool, salt the water, drop the anchor, how else to explain ... laughing
        1. Ruslan67 28 September 2015 07: 04 New
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          how else to explain ...

          I’ll put sneakers in the corner, bum, throw wassat
          1. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 07: 13 New
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            Quote: Ruslan67
            I’ll put sneakers in the corner, bum, throw

            go on ... yes
            1. lelikas 28 September 2015 14: 52 New
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              Quote: Andrew Y.
              go on ...

              Play in the box;)
        2. ssergn 28 September 2015 08: 31 New
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          forgot about the wooden mac laughing
    3. sherp2015 28 September 2015 06: 58 New
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      Quote: Andrew Y.
      something he dies a very long time,


      And for some reason, at the suggestion of our rulers, he calmly and openly walks around the country ... But the bureaucrats have dollar bills abroad, by the way, for some reason, their children also study there.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 06: 09 New
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    Heraze, svp67-Sega, how you and I were shod for sedition, down the road! belay lol
    1. svp67 28 September 2015 06: 14 New
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      how you and I were shod for sedition, a sleeper!

      Well, we didn’t fall into the general “trend” and “hit” ... Probably I’ll get drunk with grief ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 07: 02 New
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        I'll probably get drunk with grief ...

        "call me with you, I will come through evil nights ..." laughing
        1. svp67 28 September 2015 07: 05 New
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          We are being eavesdropped, here's the Tatarname thing, that two men decided to get drunk with grief, maybe the third one begs?
  4. Armored optimist 28 September 2015 06: 10 New
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    The collapse of the dollar system is a matter of time. And very close. Maybe today at 12.05 New York time.
    1. svp67 28 September 2015 06: 16 New
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      The collapse of the dollar system is a matter of time. And very close. Maybe today at 12.05 New York time.

      GDP may and may wish it, but understands perfectly well that in 12.06 all other currencies, including the ruble, will collapse. Until a system capable of replacing the dollar has been created, it is necessary to measure with its existence and persistently “grow” its shift
      1. Armored optimist 28 September 2015 06: 20 New
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        The process is on. Already not to stop.
        1. inkass_98 28 September 2015 06: 50 New
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          Quote: armored optimist
          The process is on. Already not to stop.

          Is there such a concept as "aftershock" - have not you heard? Self-oscillations after the main shock of the earthquake. So, it will shake everyone from the heart, but at the same time it can drag someone along the abyss, for example - us. Our economy is too dependent on the dollar, since all foreign trade turnover is practically on the same dollar and tied. If we traded mainly in rubles, then the blow would not be so noticeable. It would have been a coward, but not buried, and now, in such a stone age, it can drive us to envy the first civilizations of the Nile and the Tiger - it’s at least warm there, and we have winter on our nose.
          1. Boris55 28 September 2015 08: 15 New
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            Quote: inkass_98
            ... and now we can be driven into such a stone age that we envy the first civilizations of the Nile and the Tiger ...

            Almost Obama, well, like the fact that sanctions killed Russia laughing
            It’s during perestroika that we completely depended on “Bush’s legs”, now the situation is different - Obama will be on the line for a meeting with Putin ...

            ps
            Personally, I have only one candy wrapper in denominations of 1 dollar and I keep it as the art of Freemason Roerich.
          2. Djuma 28 September 2015 16: 41 New
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            Quote: inkass_98
            Is there such a concept as "aftershock" - have not you heard? Self-oscillations after the main shock of the earthquake. So, it will shake everyone from the heart, but at the same time it can drag someone along the abyss, for example - us. Our economy is too dependent on the dollar, since all foreign trade turnover is practically on the same dollar and tied. If we traded mainly in rubles, then the blow would not be so noticeable. It would have been a coward, but not buried, and now in such a stone age it can drive us to envy the first civilizations of the Nile and the Tiger - it’s at least warm there, and we have winter on our nose


            The Nobel Prize in Economics is urgently needed in the studio and presented to this gentleman !!!
            It is always interesting to read the fabrications of people who do not understand anything in this matter. What rubles? What are you speaking about? Read at least something about the economy before writing this enchanting nonsense. Start with the “Money” chapter to understand what it is, and only then talk about what it is best to trade for, for rubles or dollars.
            Any banknotes are just paper, what matters is what it can be exchanged for. In the case of us, it does not matter for what currency our main commodity is sold - oil and gas, the main thing is that later it will be possible to buy this currency and how much a barrel of oil and 1000 cubic meters of gas will cost. In the case of the collapse of the dollar, the problem for us will be the collapse of the economies of other states, for example China, which holds most of its gold and foreign currency reserves in dollars. If there are problems in the economy, oil and gas prices will fall, respectively, and our budget revenues, well, further along the chain. We are not so afraid of this crisis, having such a territory and the entire periodic table in the form of minerals, we will always live, find what to keep warm and what to eat. But for others, yes, there will be problems.
            The collapse of the dollar, of course, will cause us problems, but not at all fatal.
        2. anip 28 September 2015 08: 25 New
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          Quote: armored optimist
          The process is on. Already not to stop.

          Process of what? So far, over the past 25 years, the ruble has been falling.
      2. rosarioagro 28 September 2015 07: 26 New
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        Quote: svp67
        that in 12.06 all other currencies will crash

        Earth will fly on the celestial axis :-)
    2. Uncle Joe 28 September 2015 17: 53 New
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      Quote: armored optimist
      The collapse of the dollar system is a matter of time. And very close. Maybe today at 12.05 New York time.
      For which currency? laughing
  5. dmi.pris 28 September 2015 06: 16 New
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    If this candy wrapper really decided to give the oak (which I strongly doubt, it wasn’t invented for that), then it will bury dozens of currencies under it. Who needs it? It looks like nobody.
  6. kuz363 28 September 2015 06: 16 New
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    And what does the author suggest? Less to him. Convert dollars to rubles? Yes, after the collapse of the dollar, there will come a turn of other currencies, incl. and the ruble.
    1. Stanislas 28 September 2015 06: 22 New
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      Quote: kuz363
      Yes, after the collapse of the dollar comes the turn of other currencies
      Before the collapse of the dollar - you can still understand, and after - why would they collapse, other currencies?
      1. kuz363 28 September 2015 07: 22 New
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        Yes, because the economies of all countries are tied to each other. And where are Russian gold and currency reserves, if not in US bonds! In addition, the US economy is the largest in the world - 25% of world GDP. And Russia - only 2%! If something happens to Russia, the world will not particularly notice. Competition in the market for raw materials and weapons, which Russia is famous for is very strong. The most advanced technologies are launched from the USA, starting with a computer. And they consume world resources immeasurably. This can be judged even against the background of rumors about their Fed rate. Amid only rumors, the ruble with other currencies is jumping in different directions. And what happens with a real collapse of the dollar (which I have heard from the 60s from Khrushchev) is scary to think.
        1. anip 28 September 2015 08: 26 New
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          Quote: kuz363
          And what happens with a real collapse of the dollar (which I have heard from the 60s from Khrushchev) is scary to think.

          Well, during the USSR there were still some indicators of a possible collapse of the dollar. And now why would he collapse?
          1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 36 New
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            Well, during the USSR there were still some indicators of a possible collapse of the dollar. And now why would he collapse?

            Why? People want
            1. Boris55 28 September 2015 08: 45 New
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              Quote: atalef
              Why? People want

              One cannot but underestimate the role of the egregional-matrix management of society. As the classics of Marxism (in a free interpretation) said: the idea that has mastered the masses becomes a reality.
              1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 52 New
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                One cannot but underestimate the role of the egregional-matrix management of society. As the classics of Marxism (in a free interpretation) said: the idea that has mastered the masses becomes a reality

                in a single country laughing
                There was already a slogan-- That would not be rich.
                And the truth is - implemented
                1. Boris55 28 September 2015 08: 55 New
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                  Quote: atalef
                  There was already a slogan-- That would not be rich.
                  And the truth is - implemented

                  Not only.
                  Tired of the people mumble Brezhnev - got talker Hunchback.
                  Tired of a talker - got silent, silent (KGB fancier) bully

                  "Everything happens in the best way consistent with the real morality of all participants in the process"
                  1. atalef 28 September 2015 09: 19 New
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                    Quote: Boris55
                    Tired of the people mumble Brezhnev - got talker Hunchback

                    Brezhnev did not bother the people, he damn (Brezhnev) - died crying
                    1. Boris55 28 September 2015 09: 50 New
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                      Quote: atalef
                      Brezhnev did not get tired of the people, he damn (Brezhnev) - died crying

                      Therefore, he died. The provision obliges. If the situation does not oblige, then it kills - first morally, and then physically. (jokes about him were not changed)
                      1. atalef 28 September 2015 10: 37 New
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                        Quote: Boris55
                        Quote: atalef
                        Brezhnev did not get tired of the people, he damn (Brezhnev) - died crying

                        Therefore, he died. The provision obliges. If the situation does not oblige, then it kills - first morally, and then physically. (jokes about him were not changed)

                        Nothing, Putin is younger than Brezhnev and looks much better. But still 2 of the year and will be equal to it - on time. wink
                      2. Boris55 28 September 2015 11: 22 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Nothing, Putin is younger than Brezhnev and looks much better. But still 2 of the year and will be equal to it - on time.

                        Which, in general, confirms the above: "The provision obliges. If the provision does not oblige, then it kills - first morally, and then physically." While Putin is "for the people" - he is not threatened by anything.

                        ps
                        No need to ascribe to Putin, from the clan of the security forces, the year of the reign of Medvedev, from the clan of the bourgeois.
                        In my opinion, we too deviated from the topic. It's time to tie.
                      3. atalef 28 September 2015 11: 25 New
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                        Quote: Boris55
                        No need to ascribe to Putin, from the clan of the security forces, the year of the reign of Medvedev, from the clan of the bourgeois.

                        you're right . as they say
                        Caesar's wife is beyond suspicion. hi
                      4. Alexander Romanov 28 September 2015 11: 27 New
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                        No need to ascribe to Putin, from the clan of the security forces, the year of the reign of Medvedev, from the clan of the bourgeois.

                        That is, all the same, Medvedev of Georgia piled on ....... ah, what good fellows you are. Where you need and where you don't need laughing
    2. Cube123 28 September 2015 11: 12 New
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      Well, during the USSR there were still some indicators of a possible collapse of the dollar. And now why would he collapse?

      US debt is growing faster than the ability to service it.
      1. atalef 28 September 2015 11: 27 New
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        US debt is growing faster than the ability to service it.

        when it is not possible to service debt - this is called - default
        Yes, what should I tell. you yourself know, there were 2 times in this situation. but America is not.
  7. ssergn 28 September 2015 08: 39 New
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    And where are Russian gold and currency reserves, if not in US bonds!


    Yah? Is everything straight all all? At least get acquainted with the structure of the RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    Here to help you:

    In the currency component includes:
    cash currency;
    balances on correspondent accounts. This includes deposits with an initial maturity of up to 1 in foreign central banks (including deposits in gold), the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), and non-resident credit institutions. It also takes into account anonymized metal accounts in gold;
    debt securities issued by non-residents and other financial claims against non-residents with an initial maturity of up to 1 inclusive. A significant part of the Russian reserves until recently was held in US Treasury securities (more than $ 100 billion), but in the 2014 year Russia restructured in their respect and reduced the volume of this part by almost 40% or $ 50 billion. More detailed material on this topic see below;
    loans provided under reverse repos.
    Monetary gold represents standard gold bars and coins belonging to the Bank of Russia and the Government of the Russian Federation, having a sample of at least 995. This category includes both gold stored in the territory of the Russian Federation and that is in transit and in custody abroad.
    By April 2015, Russia reduced the volume of US government bonds in its international reserves by 40%

    Such data are contained in a report published on the website of the US Department of the Treasury. As of April 2015, the Russian Federation’s investments in US securities amounted to 66 billion. Recall that a year ago, this figure was 116 billion dollars. Russia began selling US government bonds in August 2014. To date, Russia occupies 22 place in the world in terms of investments in these assets.
    The Central Bank resumed the purchase of gold in March 2015

    In March 2015, the Central Bank purchased more than 30 tons of gold. The volume of gold reserves in the international reserves of the Russian Federation as of April 1 of the current year reached 1238 tons. Thus, the volume of monetary gold reserves in gold reserves for the month increased by 2,6%. A month earlier, this figure was 1207 tons. The cost of gold reserves in Central Bank reserves in March grew by only 1% (which is slightly less than the percentage growth in its volumes) and amounted to $ 47,272 billion.
    The difference between the percentage ratio of growth in gold volumes and its value is due to fluctuations in gold prices in world markets. In March, the volume of gold in the Central Bank reserves increased by 2,6%, and its value increased only by 1%, which indicates a decrease in the value of gold in March. Currently, the volume of monetary gold is about 13% in the share of foreign exchange reserves. In January and February of 2015, the Central Bank did not purchase gold.
    1. ssergn 28 September 2015 08: 49 New
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      And more:

      In December, the 2014 Russia sold a fifth of US government bonds


      Russia in December sold US government bonds worth $ 22 billion. This information is taken from a report by the US Treasury Department.
      At the end of 2014, the remainder of the volume of international reserves of the Russian Federation in American securities amounted to $ 86 billion.
      Over the past year, the December sale of US Treasury securities was not the largest, even more actively Russia got rid of US government bonds in March 2014 and then restructured securities worth $ 26 billion.
      According to the results of 2014, the Russian Federation became the largest sovereign state that sold these assets. Now we have moved from 11 to 15 place in the list of major US lenders, reducing the holding volume of these assets by 38%.
      Today, China is the largest external lender to the United States, although in 2014, the PRC authorities also sold these securities in the amount of $ 25 billion.
      1. atalef 28 September 2015 09: 20 New
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        And more:

        In December 2014, Russia sold a fifth of US government bonds

        It’s clear why, grandmas are needed - they’ve sold it.
        By the way, how did this affect the US economy and the value of T-bills --- NO laughing
        1. ssergn 28 September 2015 09: 44 New
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          It’s clear why, grandmas are needed - they’ve sold it.


          And why? Are you envious?

          Quote: atalef
          By the way, how did this affect the US economy and the value of T-bills --- NO


          What does this have to do with it? In my comment, this topic is not covered. It was about reducing the dependence on investments in the treasury of this particular country: namely, the Russian Federation.
          A lie would blur ......... belay
          1. atalef 28 September 2015 10: 38 New
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            And why? Are you envious?

            Well, in general, assets are not sold from a good life, why envy?
            Quote: ssergn
            What does this have to do with it? In my comment, this topic is not covered. It was about reducing the dependence on investments in the treasury of this particular country: namely, the Russian Federation.

            Well, have you reduced your dependence and?
            1. ssergn 28 September 2015 14: 37 New
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              Well, in general, assets are not sold from a good life, why envy?


              Or buy something. Do not find?

              Quote: atalef
              Well, have you reduced your dependence and?


              And what? So then this is our business, whether you worry. hi
      2. Uncle Joe 28 September 2015 18: 09 New
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        And more:

        In December, the 2014 Russia sold a fifth of US government bonds
        18.05.2015/300/XNUMX Russia in March resumed purchases of US government bonds, increasing its investments by $ XNUMX million
        http://www.finanz.ru/novosti/obligatsii/rossiya-vozobnovila-pokupki-gosobligaciy
        -ssha-1000634129

        20/07/2015 For the month before last, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation acquired $ 4,1 billion in treasury bonds
        http://www.rosbalt.ru/business/2015/07/20/1420603.html

        18.08.2015/1,4/XNUMX Russia bought US government bonds for $ XNUMX billion
        http://by24.org/2015/08/18/russia_bue_us_treasures_for_1_4_billions_of_dollars/

        September 17.09.2015, 10. In July, the Russian Federation invested almost $ XNUMX billion in US debt.
        http://ria.ru/economy/20150917/1256593045.html
  • Armored optimist 28 September 2015 06: 35 New
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    The collapse of other currencies against the background of the dollar would mean its growth against them. So are we about the collapse of the dollar or the collapse of other currencies? Contradiction, sir!
  • atalef 28 September 2015 07: 37 New
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    And what does the author suggest? Less to him. Convert dollars to rubles? Yes, after the collapse of the dollar, there will come a turn of other currencies, incl. and the ruble.

    But the author offers nothing and does not even try to analyze the consequences.
    Just another article like
    The dollar is worth nothing, an empty piece of paper, tomorrow it will fall and there will come the world welfare of shopping mall. the only alternative to the dollar is, of course, the ruble.
    Sometimes you read such articles and think, but where is the minimal connection with reality?
    1. anip 28 September 2015 08: 27 New
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      Quote: atalef
      Sometimes you read such articles and think, but where is the minimal connection with reality?

      The cheers-patriots, and in the current situation, the cheers-patriots, have no connection with reality.
    2. IS-80 28 September 2015 11: 06 New
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      The dollar is worth nothing, an empty piece of paper, tomorrow it will fall and there will come the world welfare of shopping mall. the only alternative to the dollar is, of course, the ruble.

      Why is the ruble obligatory? You can also shekel. Putin spoke for multipolarity. laughing
      Quote: atalef
      But the author offers nothing and does not even try to analyze the consequences.

      But why?
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  • MAIGOR 28 September 2015 06: 23 New
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    It's too early to rejoice. The true owners of the dollar that are behind the Fed will definitely come up with some kind of feint with their ears. So that the rest of the world would pay for the death of the dollar.
    1. Djuma 28 September 2015 16: 51 New
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      It's too early to rejoice. The true owners of the dollar that are behind the Fed will definitely come up with some kind of feint with their ears. So that the rest of the world would pay for the death of the dollar.


      So already thought up. The United States owes to the whole world, and to whom it owes is soon forgiven. Tomorrow they will say that all their debts will be transferred to the new Amerigo currency at the rate of 1: $ 1000000. That's the whole trick. And who are the Fed - a private office, all the questions to it.
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    It would be better if Chuvakin wrote how to revive the ruble..dollar violet his spells, cheers to shout the article “patriots” especially for VO. fellow
  • Sasha75 28 September 2015 06: 33 New
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    Smiled here is the way out))).
  • slizhov 28 September 2015 06: 38 New
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    The dollar will rather die than gain strength and rise again ...!
    1. anip 28 September 2015 08: 28 New
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      The dollar will rather die than gain strength and rise again ...!

      Is the dollar weak? Is the dollar dead?
  • Cams 28 September 2015 06: 45 New
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    Quote: armored optimist
    The collapse of the dollar system is a matter of time. And very close. Maybe today at 12.05 New York time.

    GDP may and may wish it, but understands perfectly well that in 12.06 all other currencies, including the ruble, will collapse. Until a system capable of replacing the dollar has been created, it is necessary to measure with its existence and persistently “grow” its shift

    The system is simple. There will be a multi-currency system. This is when each currency has its own, individual rate to every other currency in the world. And the calculation is strictly in national currencies.
    1. Armored optimist 28 September 2015 07: 09 New
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      I agree with you.
    2. atalef 28 September 2015 07: 40 New
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      Quote: KAMLS
      The system is simple. There will be a multi-currency system

      What is it like ?
      Quote: KAMLS
      This is when each currency has its own, individual rate to every other currency in the world.

      So it is now
      Quote: KAMLS
      . And the calculation is strictly in national currencies.

      So who doesn’t give?
      It’s just that a small thing remains that you would agree to sell for Zimbabwean dollars (as an example) - as one of the members of the multicurrency system hi
      1. anip 28 September 2015 08: 29 New
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        what would you agree to sell for Zimbabwean dollars

        But the dollars. laughing
      2. Djuma 28 September 2015 16: 56 New
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        It’s just that a small thing remains that you would agree to sell for Zimbabwean dollars (as an example) - as one of the members of the multicurrency system


        If he wants to buy something in Zimbabwe, he will sell it for Zimbabwean dollars. He wants in Israel - he will sell for shekels. Why now, to buy a souvenir in Turkey, you need to go there with dollars?
        If we exclude the extra links “buy dollars” and “sell dollars” from the product-money-product chain, then the dollar will certainly not end, but it will be very tight.
  • fa2998 28 September 2015 07: 00 New
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    The collapse of the dollar system is a matter of time.

    I am enraged by 2 topics on the issue of corruption in Ukraine, and the collapse of the dollar. I think they are specially raised to distract from our problems. down and down. LET YOURSELF IN THE COUNTRY MAKE THE ORDER so that people live with dignity, and then we will discuss another! yes hi
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 07: 42 New
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      I am enraged by 2 topics on the VO about corruption in Ukraine, and the collapse of the dollar. I think they are specially raised to distract from our problems

      Which today is the war in Syria laughing judging by the news and articles in the VO
      1. anip 28 September 2015 08: 30 New
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        Quote: atalef
        Which today is the war in Syria, judging by the news and articles in the VO

        That's for sure, all the problems within the country have already been resolved.
  • B- 3ACADE 28 September 2015 07: 00 New
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    Well, I've been waiting for such an article for a long time. She is not the first author to be right, but how
    and all the previous ones are thrown down from above. This kind of view is not from the people. I can
    say the representative of part of the American people and the theme of the collapse of the buck
    I see it differently ... First, the bucks will crash into school do not go. But-crash
    just outside of America. These greyhounds guys of the Fed reserve have already spoiled new
    Dalyarov for domestic consumption, the rumor passed. I have two "tramps"
    They work as ikasators, one carries, the other in storage. So the question is one, when? As for the purchasing power of the dollar, here too
    lies a great mess. the course is about 1 to 4. What can I buy for a dollar from us in America, then you have four dollars. I often send relatives translations
    and we crap how much hockey is with the ball. So it's all a matter of time. The task of the State Department is to prevent a social explosion, otherwise it will have to wet all blacks. Therefore, the dollar will be kept inside with all its might.
    Plastic is convenient. But it is better. 90% of blacks are twisted for cash, that's all.
    Because no one will give them credit cards — they’re non-paid.
    Well, so far, I will not litter your brains. Gasoline today in Missouri is 87-2,06 per gallon. And milk is 3,50 per gallon. We think.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 28 September 2015 07: 36 New
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      . She is not the first author to be right, but how
      and all the previous ones are dropped from above

      Oleg articles are dumped "from above" ??? belay
    2. atalef 28 September 2015 07: 51 New
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      First, the buck will crash into school, don’t go.
      just outside america

      What is it like ? More precisely, these are local currencies 4 times stronger against the dollar (as you can understand)
      But in America it will remain at the same level as prices, you know the consequences? If such a hypothetical scenario occurs?
      - The competitiveness of American goods will increase 4 times. Investments will pour even more into America.


      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      . What can I buy for a dollar from us in America, then you have four dollars

      And? This speaks only about one thing - the standard of living of an American with his salary and low prices is much higher than that of others (although to be honest, I would argue about your statements) about such a run in prices, more precisely, he would call it simplicity nonsense.
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Therefore, the dollar will be kept within all forces

      From what ? From falling or strengthening?

      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Plastic is convenient. But it is better. 90% of blacks are twisted for cash, that's all.

      Tales
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Because no one will give them credit cards — they’re non-paid.

      Just the same, 90% of blacks in America are on the welfare
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Gasoline today in Missouri is 87-2,06 per gallon. And milk is 3,50 per gallon. We think. We are waiting.

      Gasoline is more expensive than in Russia, milk is the same, I'm not talking about other countries such as B. Vostok - as you said - 1 to 4? laughing
      1. vadson 28 September 2015 08: 50 New
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        if the dollar collapses outside of America, then the lion's share of their 18 trillion debt will depreciate, even if one to four, 4.5 gross debts will remain and who then will invest more in America?
        1. atalef 28 September 2015 09: 21 New
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          if the dollar collapses outside of America, then the lion's share of their 18 trillion debt will depreciate, even if one to four, 4.5 gross debts will remain and who then will invest more in America?

          interesting logic, and how did we come to this conclusion?
        2. Djuma 28 September 2015 17: 01 New
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          if the dollar collapses outside of America, then the lion's share of their 18 trillion debt will depreciate, even if one to four, 4.5 gross debts will remain and who then will invest more in America?


          Everyone will die and will continue to invest, and for those who do not want to, the aircraft carriers will sail and establish democracy there.
    3. Revolver 28 September 2015 08: 39 New
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      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Gasoline today in Missouri is 87-2,06 per gallon. And milk is 3,50 per gallon.

      The last time I bought milk was at $ 3.29 / gal, gasoline yesterday at $ 2.29 [premium, cash], and [regular, cash] at the same gas station was at $ 1.79; by credit card 10 cents more expensive. Is something expensive in your Moscow region, or are your regular taxes higher?
      1. B- 3ACADE 29 September 2015 03: 28 New
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        You are right Mr. Nagan they are most teksy. Offshore: Illinois is even more expensive to us in St. Louis
        refuel ride.
        sorry for the late reply.
    4. anip 28 September 2015 08: 43 New
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      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      Gasoline today in Missouri 87-2,06 per gallon

      In Missouri today, at the ruble-dollar rate (64 rubles per dollar) - 34,79 rubles. per liter.
      And in Tomsk today gasoline 95 - 35,3 rubles. per liter.

      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      and milk is 3,50 per gallon.

      Milk in Missouri - 59,1 rubles. per liter.
      Milk in Tomsk "Prostokvashino" 2,5% - 57-62 rubles. per liter.

      Attention, question: What is the salary in Missouri in rubles?

      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      We think. We are waiting.

      So you don’t have to think and wait in America, you just have to live, but in Russia you have to think how to live and you have to wait when the cancer on the mountain whistles, because it will happen faster than Putin and the whole elite will change something in the country for people for the better.
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      2. Mera joota 28 September 2015 09: 42 New
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        Quote: anip
        Milk in Tomsk "Prostokvashino" 2,5% - 57-62 rubles. per liter.

        Where did you see now tetrapack / bag with milk 1l? It has long been selling from 0,8-0,9l. packaged. This is like sour cream, a jar as before from 500g., And in it only 350 gr.
        The price rises with a decrease in volume, people out of habit buy in the same quantity, but in volume less at a higher price.
  • BlackDragon 28 September 2015 07: 08 New
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    amid ever-cheaper oil is having the dollar all dying and dying ....
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 13 New
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      amid ever-cheaper oil is having the dollar all dying and dying ....

      So oil is getting cheaper because the dollar is dying wassat laughing
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        I realized this is the agony predicted by SAMIM at 70 dying bucks wassat
  • parusnik 28 September 2015 07: 09 New
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    Dying dollar... Die, will not die .. and the value decreases .. but not so fast .. everything will happen in steps .. the process is started ..
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 14 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      Dying dollar... Die, will not die .. and the value decreases .. but not so fast .. everything will happen in steps .. the process is started ..

      To date, like the steps up. wink
      1. parusnik 28 September 2015 09: 30 New
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        Moscow did not immediately build, and the dollar did not die immediately .. wink
    2. Greenwood 28 September 2015 11: 27 New
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      The ruble has fallen in price by 50 (!!!) fucking percent for half a year, and the dollar is dying and dying, yeah ...
  • Krio 28 September 2015 07: 09 New
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    Next up is the continuation of the cash war. Anonymity when paying in cash is so expensive that it loses its meaning.
    This is a purely American practice, there are reports on the use of cash on 20 pages and the tax pulls strongly, in other countries it is not.
  • Glot 28 September 2015 07: 11 New
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    We won’t live to see the collapse of the dollar! Behind him - the Power stands, The system is powerful and thoughtful.
    Rather, the euro grunts than the dollar.
    So do not flatter yourself. The dollar, the world currency, and so just do not dump it.
  • maxxdesign 28 September 2015 07: 23 New
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    again it’s wagged with water, or it’s written with a pitchfork .. to someone like ... such articles should be written on economic forums .. and ordinary people can be explained more simply .. without any futures, indices and other incomprehensible billiards
    1. anip 28 September 2015 08: 54 New
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      again it’s wagged with water, or it’s written with a pitchfork .. to someone like ... such articles should be written on economic forums .. and ordinary people can be explained more simply .. without any futures, indices and other incomprehensible billiards

      But the explanation is simple - do not wait. Do not wait for any collapse of the dollar, the United States is still not Zimbabwe.
    2. atalef 28 September 2015 09: 22 New
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      and ordinary people can be explained more simply .. without any futures, indices and other incomprehensible billiards

      If it’s simple, it won’t collapse. hi
  • lablizn 28 September 2015 07: 57 New
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    The theme is old and permanent, the whole trouble is that the collapse of the "green" is not profitable for any more or less producing country, including and Russia.
    According to various sources, the states consume about half of all manufactured goods, i.e. are the largest market in the world.
    Of course, it’s very simple to bring down the dollar: to demand the repayment of external debt by holders of Amer’s debt obligations, this is unrealistic for the United States in principle, because all assets do not reach the amount of debts.
    But the question arises: what to do with your economy? Where to direct marketable products, where to look for a similar market?
    In principle, more precisely, ideally, all this can be directed to the economies of the same countries in Africa, Latin America, and in general the poorest countries.
    Only here they have nothing to pay. You can, of course, create a new international financial structure aimed at equalizing the economic potentials of the countries of the world, but who needs it?
    As for the state GDP, its structure shows that it has turned from a producing country into a consumer and a financial parasite. Here are the data for 2013. About the structure of US GDP:
    The share of rural households - 1,2%
    Share prom. production (including mining. industries) - 19,2%
    The share of the service sector (including the financial sector) - 79,6% (!)
    Well and some more indicators:
    Gos. debt - 17,26 trillion. or 101% of GDP (2013)
    State revenues - 2,9 trillion. (2013)
    Gos. expenses - 3,8 trillion. (2013)
    Population below the poverty line - 14,8%
    PS In fact, America is in a pre-default state and is getting out of it by issuing and imposing more and more debt obligations on creditors, the payment of which is to pay off interest payments on old debts.
    It's like a snowball from a mountain. It can grow, but not ad infinitum.
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 24 New
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      Of course, it’s very simple to bring down the dollar: to demand the repayment of external debt by Amer debt holders

      joker, who will it be? But what about local currencies - if the GKO Federal Reserve is the guarantor of their stability and a huge part of gold reserves?
      Quote: lablizn
      In principle, more precisely, ideally, all this can be directed to the economies of the same countries in Africa, Latin America, and in general the poorest countries.

      And they will eat it with success, plunder good
      Quote: lablizn
      You can, of course, create a new international financial structure aimed at equalizing the economic potentials of the countries of the world, but who needs it?

      The question is how to create it and who will be in charge?
      Quote: lablizn
      Well and some more indicators:
      Gos. debt - 17,26 trillion. or 101% of GDP (2013)

      In Germany, debt is -136% of GDP, England -300%, Italy -300% of GDP,
      ETHIOPIA -13% of GDP (Russia about 36% of GDP)
      So let’s drink for Ethiopia - the new financial and industrial monster.
      Quote: lablizn
      . In fact, America is in pre-default state

      In a parallel universe.
      Do you have a mortgage?
      If so, how much does it exceed your personal annual GDP?
      So how is it ? Are you in a pre-default state or are you quietly living in a new apartment paying off debts and interest on them? hi
      1. lablizn 28 September 2015 10: 46 New
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        I do not have a mortgage and will not, because I try to live on my income, not in a debt clamp.
        I agree to drink for Ethiopia, and not only for her!
        You did not pay attention or deliberately silenced my remark about the "snowball."
  • Monster_Fat 28 September 2015 08: 14 New
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    Dollar inflation, like any other currency, is primarily caused by the so-called "loan interest", and not by some "conspiracy theories" or something "incomprehensible" there. It is the “exchange” and “commercial moneylender banks” with their “loans” that are the mechanisms that, over time, depreciate any currency. By the way, as everyone knows, one of the reasons for the destruction of Gaddafi was his plans to issue a currency with the "gold standard", but this is only part of the iceberg. Gaddafi planned not only this, he planned to change a lot of things in the world that world leaders didn’t like: to irrigate the Sahara, provide the whole world with attention to solar energy, the most important thing is to stop selling all resources on exchanges, the state should create a state register according to his plan all manufacturers and ensure their direct contact with customers and control these transactions, and he also planned to remove all commercial banks leaving only one state for direct financing of the economy. That's why they removed him.
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 34 New
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      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Dollar inflation, like any other currency, is primarily caused by the so-called "loan interest", and not by some "conspiracy theology" or something "incomprehensible" there

      Well, today their loan percentage of 0.15% - sort of like, --- does not fit
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      It is the “exchange” and “commercial moneylender banks” with their “loans” that are the mechanisms that, over time, depreciate any currency.

      ??
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      By the way, as everyone knows, one of the reasons for the destruction of Gaddafi was his plans to issue a currency with the "gold standard"

      Well, Gaddafi had many different ideas. including the united states of africa
      But the question is, where would he gain gold on his dinar and how would he become a world currency?
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      Gaddafi planned not only this, he planned a lot of things in the world,

      Yes, that's for sure - so many ideas - so many ideas
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      irrigation in the Sahara, to provide the whole world with solar energy

      Only (I'm sorry) and where did he get so much water from in Libya, but what about a song with solar energy in general - this can be said by a person completely divorced from knowledge of the production and transmission of electricity
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      , the most important thing is to stop selling all resources on exchanges,

      Well, yes, and trade in the bazaars
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      according to his plan, the state should create a state register of all manufacturers and ensure direct contact with customers and control these transactions

      About State laughing if you don’t look where the state is interfering, so for some reason super-profitable industries are turning into unprofitable ones - here is Venezuela (as an example), and Russia has not gone far.
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      he planned to remove all commercial banks, leaving only one state for direct financing of the economy.

      Well and good, but what's the point?
      Do you think the percentage would change?
      1. Monster_Fat 28 September 2015 09: 41 New
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        It's not nice to "fool around."
        1) 0,15? For this "percentage" the state sells money to banks. Banks, however, wind up their interest, depending on who and how much they lend. In different countries this percentage is different. My company was credited in the Czech Republic (before the sanctions) for 5,5% per annum. And if directly, bypassing the moneylenders to lend for these 0,15?
        2) ????? The state sells money to the bank for 0,15%, the bank "sells" this money to you for 5,5%, that is, the bank has already created a "virtual" money supply equal to 5,5-0,15 = 5,35%. That is, the bank has already “pledged” inflation with its usury. Now it is clear?
        3) About Gaddafi’s plans, actually not as mythical as is commonly believed, you can read on the Internet, I hope you know how to use the "google" search engine? By the way, there are huge reserves of water in Libya, only it is underground and Gaddafi has already begun to lay a giant pipeline for pumping it - everything is on the Internet. Also about heliostations.
        4) About "getting into the state" except Venezuela in which everything could have been much better if not for Latin American temperament and maximalism on the one hand and not "sticks in the wheel" from Western "partners" - on the other, there is also China, and Hong Kong and Singapore, and Norway, and Switzerland are countries with a huge share of government regulation of the economy. Yes, in fact, all developed countries regulate individual branches of their economy, for example, agriculture, through regulatory rules, quotas, subsidies, etc.
        5) To the last question: "What is the point"? But we need to try and see if it will be useful or not, in any case, we will remove the banking parasites-intermediaries and we will be able to control cash flows more efficiently and we will ask someone if that, otherwise the typical picture is that a commercial bank collected money, converted it into currency, and withdrew it abroad and the type of "ruined" -the leadership has faded for the cordon and there is no one to ask (except for the "switchmen").
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          Quote: Monster_Fat
          0,15? For this "percentage" the state sells money to banks. Banks, however, wind up their interest, depending on who and how much they lend. In different countries this percentage is different. My company was credited in the Czech Republic (before the sanctions) for 5,5% per annum. And if directly, bypassing the moneylenders to lend for these 0,15?

          Why is it in the Czech Republic? wink
          Of course, the central bank rate is the base, then the markup, but how else?
          You probably buy the same product in retail, and the store in bulk - what is the difference.
          Central Bank cannot assume the functions of a single bank - risks will increase
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          ???? The state sells money to the bank for 0,15%, the bank "sells" this money to you for 5,5

          Where is it ?
          we have 0.25%, at the final 1.8-3.2%
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          ) About Gaddafi’s plans, actually not as mythical as is commonly believed, you can read on the Internet

          On the Internet they write different garbage. And you take a calculator and calculate how much gold is needed to at least provide the ruble with gold (and not the world Gaddafi dinar). and then say

          Quote: Monster_Fat
          ) About the "fit of state" except Venezuela in which everything could have been much better if not for Latin American temperament and maximalism on the one hand

          Well, there are always 100t reasons, just give me at least one successful socialist state
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          By the way, Libya has huge reserves of water, only it is underground and Gaddafi has already begun to lay a giant pipeline

          It was laid a long time ago. and? Welfare has come?

          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Also about heliostations

          How ? Tell me i'm in energy for 25 years hi
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          To the last question: "What's the point"? But we must try and see

          This is what Lenin said. do you want another experiment?
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          and then a typical picture - a commercial bank scored money, converted it into currency, brought it abroad and of the sort of "ruined" —the leadership shed for the cordon and there was no one to ask (except for the switchmen).

          This is so for you, in the whole world it works differently.
          Maybe you need to steal less?
          1. IS-80 28 September 2015 11: 53 New
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            name me at least one successful socialist state

            You lived in this. smile
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            do you want another experiment?

            Do you need stability that stagnates?
            1. atalef 28 September 2015 13: 11 New
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              You lived in this.

              If it is so successful, why did it fall apart?
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              Do you need stability that stagnates?

              It’s yours — stability is stagnation, and in some countries — stability is stability.
              1. IS-80 28 September 2015 13: 24 New
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                If it is so successful, why did it fall apart?

                Everything has its own time, and the time of every thing under heaven: a time to be born, and a time to die; time to plant, and time to tear out the planted
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                It’s yours — stability is stagnation, and in some countries — stability is stability.

                This too shall pass. Or is it the end of the story? smile
  • Million 28 September 2015 08: 20 New
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    There is a lot of talk about the end of the dollar, but looking at its value, I think that it will survive and do a lot of work
  • unknown 28 September 2015 08: 31 New
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    According to the concept of the theoretical history of Grigory Kvasha, the collapse of the United States, and, accordingly, the Fed dollar, will happen before 2025.

    The term is not so far, those who survive will have the opportunity to verify the correctness or fallacy of theoretical calculations.
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 08: 39 New
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      According to the concept of the theoretical history of Grigory Kvasha, the collapse of the United States, and, accordingly, the Fed dollar, will happen before 2025.

      Or the donkey will die - or the shah.
      Have you read Hodja Nasreddin?
      That's what all these predictions are worth.
    2. Greenwood 28 September 2015 11: 34 New
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      America's collapse assigned to July 2010 of the year
      The collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the United States are almost irreversible. The first will happen in November of this year, the second - in July of the future. Such a non-trivial opinion was expressed by political analyst, professor of the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Igor Panarin at the presentation of his book, which is called “The Collapse of the Dollar and the Collapse of the United States”. Conceived in May of this year, the work was written and published in record time. As the author assures, he put forward the idea of ​​the collapse of the United States of America on September 9, 1998, for the next 11 years he carefully watched what was happening there, and in the end made sure that the forecast was correct. The likelihood that in July 2010 the United States will cease to exist, from his point of view, is above 50%.
      “The systemic crisis that has come up actually says that my hypothesis is correct,” Panarin explains. “The fiscal year ends on September 4,5th. I’ll give you only one figure: this year the US budget deficit is XNUMX times larger than in last year. That is, in fact, the process of a centripetal decline in the US economy has begun. And, after the results of the fiscal year are published, investors around the world will simply be shocked. "
      I waited so long, I waited so long ... We are still waiting.
  • Uzzy 28 September 2015 09: 13 New
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    Ready for the minuses, but I will express it again! How much can you keep this topic? We will not see the collapse of the dollar. How many years does this rubber last? The country's dependence should be removed from green papers, to raise its economy, and not wait for the collapse of the dollar. The dollar will collapse - our economy will collapse.
    1. Olezhek 28 September 2015 16: 12 New
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      How much can you keep this topic? We will not see the collapse of the dollar. How many years this rubber


      The collapse of the dollar is not exactly the opening of a new shopping center - it will be accompanied by rather turbulent processes in world politics.
      Why does the United States set fire to EVERYTHING to reach?
      In the event of a big war in Eurasia, the dollar will be the last salvation and no one will demand debts from the USA.
      The war in Ukraine, from the same opera, all those heinous crimes are simply explained
      US is trying to save a dollar.
      Imagine - the Russian Federation is really fighting in Ukraine .. what about the ruble?
      It is also the United States that incites conflicts around China ..
      The calculation is simple - you can not wipe all the time - and if you answer - the war! war!
      Yuan - bye bye ....

      By the way - the Ukrainians - just a consumable item - in any scenario ..
  • Reptiloid 28 September 2015 09: 23 New
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    Dollar inflation, like any other currency, is primarily caused by the so-called "loan interest", and not by some "conspiracy theories" or something "incomprehensible" there. It is the “exchange” and “commercial moneylender banks” with their “loans” that are the mechanisms that, over time, depreciate any currency. By the way, as everyone knows, one of the reasons for the destruction of Gaddafi was his plans to issue a currency with the "gold standard", but this is only part of the iceberg. Gaddafi planned not only this, he planned to change a lot of things in the world that world leaders didn’t like: to irrigate the Sahara, provide the whole world with attention to solar energy, the most important thing is to stop selling all resources on exchanges, the state should create a state register according to his plan all manufacturers and ensure their direct contact with customers and control these transactions, and he also planned to remove all commercial banks leaving only one state for direct financing of the economy. That's why they removed him.
    When I read the article, I wanted to write something. When I read the comments, I realized that they had already written about $$ before me. About Gaddafi. He seemed to me to be a bright and correct person. It turns out - did he inform a lot about his plans? Did not live.
    Putin informs his plans very carefully. Maybe it’s the best? Otherwise, absolutely everyone believes that he should explain everything in advance. It turns out that for other countries, not only for Libya
    BETTER silent and lively Gaddafi, came late, but not to all.
  • cap54 28 September 2015 09: 25 New
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    each currency must be provided with something, for example gold, other metals of no less value and paper, and America has as much gold as this paper is printed? Something I very much doubt it! And somewhere, I once heard that the US printing press was supposed to stop a few years ago, because The allowed and valid typing period of $$$ has expired. And now this currency does not cost anything at all, they can be used to paste the walls in the toilet.
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      each currency must be provided with something, for example gold, other metals of no less value and paper, and America has as much gold as this paper is printed?

      And who has it?
      Quote: cap54
      . And now this currency does not cost anything at all, they can be used to paste the walls in the toilet.

      Let me give you wallpaper, and you give me dollars hi
  • Mera joota 28 September 2015 09: 44 New
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    I have a good cemetery where everyone can bury their US dollars, I will accept and conduct all funeral events absolutely free! wassat
  • Ribald 28 September 2015 09: 50 New
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    Yes, they will throw everyone, on this buck and bend. And no one will do anything to them (s).
  • Mera joota 28 September 2015 10: 01 New
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    Now you need to spend $ 1,2 million to buy an average house in San Francisco or a two-bedroom apartment in the so-called district.

    It’s like I was not in the USA, but I watched the Flip Men program several times on Discovery, which we translated as “Inveterate Realtors” (let it remain on the translator’s conscience). So, for 150 thousand US dollars there went home (capital, not from panels) with a swimming pool, a finished kitchen and furniture with excellent repair. The transmission is old, 2012, at that time in Siberia we could buy a good house in the private sector with gas, a garage and a small plot with a total area half as much as two times less at the same price in the USA for 150 thousand dollars. Similar to what I saw in that program, we would have cost 300 thousand US dollars.
    And now the question is, where does the average house data come from for $ 1,2 million?
    1. atalef 28 September 2015 10: 50 New
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      And now the question is, where does the average house data come from for $ 1,2 million?

      So paper can endure everything laughing
    2. would 28 September 2015 11: 26 New
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      I note that in my memory the cost of land and as a result of houses very much depends on the particular state and of the settlement itself. So in San Francisco, a house can really cost 1.2 million, and in some other state 150 thousand.
  • Volzhanin 28 September 2015 11: 34 New
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    I think that collapsing the dollar is not at all a trick. This can be done individually by Russia, China and India. But we all, as cultural people and thinking a few steps ahead, understand that such a sharp collapse can lead to irreversible consequences.
    Therefore, we will bring it down gradually so as not to cause chaos on the planet.

    But in vain! In the context of the global crisis and chaos, Russian people have the highest chance of survival and strengthening.
  • aviator1913 28 September 2015 11: 36 New
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    Than every day to dream of a collapse of the dollar and a rotting west would be better to work better, invest and open new industries. Everyone is so smart, entrepreneurial, and only the dollar makes it difficult to turn around.

    The country in the 90 years was robbed by its own citizens, the USA or Europe got crumbs in comparison with our thieves, so they themselves broke they should do everything. To hope that the whole world is against us is the idiology of the weak, who shift their problems to others and blame everyone except himself.

    Let's create an excellent country together, develop high production, improve infrastructure, plant thieves, and defeat corruption?

    Why are we just doing what we are discussing about their dollar and its collapse, if the ruble is stronger and more reliable, everyone will keep money in rubles all over the world, that’s the whole secret. Do you think people in the USA spend days reading and discussing how to bring down the ruble? Or how will a hamburger get cheaper when Putin leaves? The truth is that everyone doesn’t give a damn about us. And only our society cares about "The ever-falling treacherous dollar, whose days are numbered."

    Article, complete idle talk ...
  • Crown 28 September 2015 12: 12 New
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    Felling a dollar is not profitable, it will simply be equal among equals.
  • Selevc 28 September 2015 13: 14 New
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    In trade, electronic payments prevail. Anonymity when paying in cash is so expensive that it loses its meaning. Keep hundred dollar bills under the mattress? But this “will make the bed uneven,” the author exclaims. In short, a cash dollar will surely die someday.
    Oh-oh - cash has been buried many times but they don’t die at all !!! Moreover, you can randomly indicate a dozen advantages of cash payment in comparison with payment by card - for example:
    1. Cash is always with pleasure taken everywhere. But the terminal for receiving cards may simply not be in the right place at the right time ...
    2. Cash people are better protected and more sensitive to them than to bank cards.
    3. A bundle of cash will never fail, no one will ever steal your PIN code, and you will not need to permanently store it either in memory or elsewhere.
    4. Cash will never be swallowed at once by any ATM.
    5. When paying in cash, you will never have to pay different penalties and fees for withdrawing money.
    6. Even if all the banks in the district burst, but cash will always remain with you and no one will tell you that your card no longer has circulation ...
    7. When paying in cash, debts are not so easily and simply generated as when paying for example with credit cards ...
    8. Cash will always help you with any force majeure (night, wilderness, earthquake, flood, etc.) but the card will not always help ...
    9. When paying in cash, you don’t need to look gloomyly at the new sophisticated menu of the next terminal (while you hear a discontented growl in the queue from behind) and mentally swear at the programmer who inspired it all ...)))
    10. Cash is easier and faster to give, pick up, treat, donate, donate, and so on ...
    Conclusion: Or maybe in the future, the existing electronic payment system will be faster bent than traditional cash payment? At least it can be used in a much more limited way and in a different way and not as massively as it is now?
  • Olezhek 28 September 2015 15: 52 New
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    Here, many people doubt the collapse of the dollar - they say it is IMPOSSIBLE because it never happened ...
    Why then all go on emotions.
    But it is enough to study the history of the issue - how the dollar became the DOLLAR.
    This has nothing to do with democracy and the rights of African Americans.
    The fact is that the United States won the most in 2 x world wars ...
    It so happened .. nobody is to blame.
    And after 45, half of the world's industrial production and virtually all of the world's gold were in the United States.
    From here also legs of the given question grow.
    Missing this opportunity could Toko full cretins ..
    Roosevelt and Truman were NOT Cretins.
    In 50, the United States really bloomed and smelled - the years of the real American dream ..
    The USA made everything from a needle to an airliner.
    And tvs! And refrigerators! EVERYTHING !
    Then the dollar was a real currency.
    Now is a fiction ...

    Yes, the dollar does not suddenly tumble to please the members of the forum-patriots - but he has no future ..
    Simply, there are countries independent of the United States.
    And they ask a simple question - what can you sell for your dollar ???

    China, by the way, has the answer.
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    In general, I strongly advise you to read on this topic the creation of the Adventurer from Omsk
    (there is such a character)
    There hundreds of sheets chewed in detail.
    By the way, he expounded everything about the crisis and about the aggression of Omeriki up to 2008.
    There is a basic work of Hazin Kobyakova and the decline of the dollar and the dollar - 15 years ago read it

    Those who ask - and Cho, he has not collapsed? - global processes are slow. But irreversible.
  • Uncle Joe 28 September 2015 20: 14 New
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    The theme of the coming "death of the dollar" is not new. Some experts say that there are so many dollars printed that if the truth about this is revealed, the kirdyk will immediately come to the US currency. Others argue that the dollar will bury a huge US national debt, which is growing endlessly. Still others think that the dollar will seriously crush the yuan - just as China in the world economy will press America.
    But at the same time, none of the Eksperdov says what exactly is meant by the death / collapse of the dollar, and People hawks laughing
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      But at the same time, none of the Eksperdov says what exactly is meant by the death / collapse of the dollar, and People hawks


      Well, sho then the type of the last day of Pompeii and the morning archer penalty at the same time ...
      Or like the blue screen of death - you reinstall Windu and life again ...
      Along with the speculative bubbles will burn and real savings.
      That is why everyone hides from this event ...
  • onix757 28 September 2015 21: 11 New
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    Shaw, again, during the lifetime of the buccaneer, did the nirologist write? Will he live long ..
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    But the refinancing rate was not raised again. Theme with a buck resembles a game with a sharpie. He has as many aces in the deck as he needs. But not enough, still print. It's just time to stop playing. Even if after the death of the dollar there will again be a natural exchange!
  • B- 3ACADE 29 September 2015 03: 23 New
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    Quote: atalef
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    First, the buck will crash into school, don’t go.
    just outside america

    What is it like ? More precisely, these are local currencies 4 times stronger against the dollar (as you can understand)
    But in America it will remain at the same level as prices, you know the consequences? If such a hypothetical scenario occurs?
    - The competitiveness of American goods will increase 4 times. Investments will pour even more into America.


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    . What can I buy for a dollar from us in America, then you have four dollars

    And? This speaks only about one thing - the standard of living of an American with his salary and low prices is much higher than that of others (although to be honest, I would argue about your statements) about such a run in prices, more precisely, he would call it simplicity nonsense.
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    Therefore, the dollar will be kept within all forces

    From what ? From falling or strengthening?

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    Plastic is convenient. But it is better. 90% of blacks are twisted for cash, that's all.

    Tales
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    Because no one will give them credit cards — they’re non-paid.

    Just the same, 90% of blacks in America are on the welfare
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    Gasoline today in Missouri is 87-2,06 per gallon. And milk is 3,50 per gallon. We think. We are waiting.

    Gasoline is more expensive than in Russia, milk is the same, I'm not talking about other countries such as B. Vostok - as you said - 1 to 4? laughing

    I would not want to return to the topic. But you misunderstood me. 1k4 is approximately.
    don't call an economist, I'm just a man in uniform with a gun.
    And about blacks - well, I know better, I live here and deal with them.
    Forgive me what's wrong.
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    here I read all these passions on light skin, and it becomes strange to me.
    exchange -shirzhi ..., I, as the owner of money giving money. I want to get it back. Okay, I want to get interest. but the end of my money will come. I will need to pull them out urgently for my business And? the world is falling. So I’m falling as a giver of money, I don’t have enough money for myself, so I pull them out of the green pyramid. like me, FALLING, more and more, therefore, more and more will require greens back.
    farther! I can lose in purchasing power. So I choose the time to pick up so that I would lose a minimum. And such a sea of ​​pickers. and I’m on the drum like they live in America there. GIVE MY BADS. how much has invested so much I want to get back. and I wanted to spit on exchanges, futures-shmuchers .... while I'm fine, I can do without the money that I gave to America. when my order ends let the Yankees do what they want to give the bastards bastards .... .so therefore, while the whole world pays money to the amers, or rather the whole world forgives the amers their losses. BUT THE SCRIPT WILL COME TO EVERYONE AND THEN .... but for now you can reason it will fall it will not fall ... the time will come when the poor creditors will come to kill the Americans worldwide. and then no weapon will play the piano, the question will be whether to die of hunger or to take away the last shirt from the amers.
    and what will I again lend to the one who once lied to me and even lowered my business? I WILL NOT GIVE, although there probably will be stupid people who lie and ....
    in Russia there is where to invest babosiks, in rubles !!!!! the country must be made comfortable for living and recreation. for this you need to invest so much more money.
    and dolor? Yes, I laid on him with the device, without the device, as you like. I need assets and not a freebie. a freebie world will destroy!