Russia needs to increase the number of arms supplies to Syria and the number of military advisers

Direct military participation of the Russian Federation in the fight against the militants of the "Islamic State" in Syria is undesirable, but it is necessary to increase military technical assistance to government forces, I am sure the army general Yuri Baluyevsky, who led the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.

“In my opinion, direct military participation of Russia in the Syrian events is inexpedient,” Baluyevsky quotes "Military Industrial Courier".

He also stressed that military-technical assistance to Damascus "was, is and should be."

"The scale of this assistance should be increased in terms of both weapons and advisers who will train the Syrian military to work with this weapons"He said.

According to Baluyevsky, this assistance can go and build up "both from Russia and possibly from a number of states of the former USSR." At the same time, Baluyevsky said that Russia, as the successor of the Soviet Union, "has legal grounds not only for military-technical, but also for military assistance to Syria."

“With military-technical cooperation is understandable - it must be developed. As for the possible participation in ground operations, everything must be well calculated, ”he added.

Stressing the importance of creating an international coalition for confronting the "Islamic state", Baluyevsky added that it is necessary to avoid a situation in which the Russian Federation can start a war in Syria.

"We do not need to be in a situation where the Americans, under the good pretext, will say:" Let's act in Syria against ISIS together. " After all, we know well how it happens - “together with the USA”. The main thing is that it does not work out that they will bomb Syria from the air, and we will be involved in ground operations, ”the general said. According to him, to fight the "Islamic state" "it is necessary to create an effective and active coalition."

Making comments on the statements of the leaders of the “Islamic State” that, in the case of Moscow’s military support of government troops in Syria, this country could turn into a “second Afghanistan” for Russia, the general said that “Thought is not new. More important than the other. The meaning of the statements of the leaders of ISIL that they will bring “order” in Europe, in relation to Russia, should be understood in the context of their claims to our North Caucasus, which has always been a tasty morsel for Islamic radicals. ”

Comments

[oleg-gr]

I agree with Baluevsky. We must help with weapons and advisers.

[marlin1203]

Well yes! For each Kalashnikov assault rifle, a competent military specialist ...

[hedgehog in the fog]

they could also deliver a company of MLRS, hail from conservation, for example, where there the aviation in the mountains is poorly regulated, adjusted and leveled the jackal bases along with the mountains and the American curators

[Weigher]

Who knows now the territories controlled by Assad are 15% of the entire territory of Syria, that is, a "narrow" strip along the Mediterranean Sea (not counting Deir ez-Zor): Damascus and Latakia?

[Sterlya]

for me so. some kind of coalition with the west? what's wrong with that? I do not foresee anything good. I understand with China, Syria. Iran, Iraq. But not with the west. Well, I don’t see and I can’t imagine it.
(although I may not be right. and Westerners are "good" warriors, though with diapers, well, God be with them )

[PN]

By the way, yes, why are our Chinese "friends" silent on the subject of Syria. But in the same way they could supply their new military equipment. After all, no polygon can replace real clashes in order to reveal its (technique) weak and worthy sides. Or, in fact, they have nothing to brag about?

[katalonec2014]

Actually it suits us, to help but not get involved in ground operations.

[PN]

For this, I do not even mind paying my taxes.

[Penetrator]

We do not need to now be in a situation where the Americans, under good pretext, say: "Let's act in Syria against ISIS together."

This is definitely not necessary. America is the worst enemy for most Arabs. And any joint actions with it will turn Russia into an enemy of the Arab world. It is one thing, together with the Arabs and Persians, to revoke the messengers from ISIS, and it is another to do this with the help and commissioned by overseas shaitans.

[delorian]

Apparently you can defeat the igil ONLY with the help of Russia !!!

[Scandinavian]

Hybrid war ... only surely there are the first dead from Syria. All this essentially falls under the Law on Non-disclosure of Army Losses.

[donavi49]

Well, what to do? Assad will fall without large-scale help, including from the army. Well, he will hold out for another year. However, the point of no return is already close, the country is extremely exhausted. Now added to this is the mass exodus of the army and the most motivated Shiites to Europe. They even flee from the brigade of "Imam Ali" - an elite Iranian-Iraqi formation, with the glory of the liberators of Baiji and Tikrit, who are located Shiite world shrines in Samarra. One of the few formations that bangs are really afraid of and try to warm up with him.

Assad will fall, what's next? The first war will come to Lebanon, as there are several factors:
- nearby
- there is a hated Hazbol who fought for Assad (that is, all participants will gladly go to slaughter the Lebanese - both moderate and nosrits, and especially the southern front)
- domestic ass with Maidan and barricades

[razzhivin]

That's right ... and according to reports from Syria, there are more frequent cases when trained air defense specialists leave to fight in the infantry due to a lack of field fighters ... so we need to cover the "technological" directions with our ... + weapons ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: donavi49

Now to this has been added the exodus ...... of the most motivated Shiites to Europe.

Did you invent it yourself again?

[rotmistr60]

Of course, the direct participation of our troops in this conflict is not desirable. But Russia does not refuse military-technical assistance and will probably increase it. Apparently, in connection with a certain change in American statements, they are thinking about trying to deeply draw Russia into this conflict.

[donavi49]

Without ground - with air only = this is a dull defense. No options. Even a small offensive with a large reserve, extended enemy forces, and air support to the besieged base, the Kuwares launched, tachanka-style and 100500 IEDs / Babakhov in the mobile defense. And there, walk a couple of tens of kilometers with a narrow wedge ...

[alone]

Quote: donavi49

And there, walk a couple of tens of kilometers with a narrow wedge ...

With weak open flanks. Of course you can get through, but it’s easier to shut. Do you think the Syrian command didn’t take this into account? It took into account. It’s just not practical to substitute a couple of thousand soldiers and equipment, and reserves are also scarce.

[rotmistr60]

Yes already zadolbal some "partisan". All my comments are minus by quiet. I don't give a damn about the minuses, but it is petty.

[andj61]

Quote: rotmistr60

Yes already zadolbal some "partisan". All my comments are minus by quiet. I don't give a damn about the minuses, but it is petty.

Keep a plus sign - in spite of the partisan!

[rotmistr60]

Supported morally, thanks.
To be honest, sometimes it takes anger at such "partisans". I do not agree - tell me straight.

[asar]

The main thing is that it doesn’t work out that they will bomb Syria from the air, and we will be drawn into ground operations, ”the general said.

Yuri Nikolaevich! We think in unison!
Yesterday I already wrote about this "alignment" -

And then they are us - intelligence, and we - in the "land" ?! All "members" of the so-called. "coalitions" - exclusively - air strikes, no hint of "land"!

Well, we ourselves are rich in intelligence, we would like, if we have to, in the same ranks with the "coalition"! On foot!
Or are you weak "coalitioners" ?!

Something like this

[engineer74]

Baluyevsky, of course, knows better, but abstract appeals to build up something, "expand and deepen" (c) are already boring. How much is needed and how much has already been shipped in tons and liters would sound clearer if there was an opportunity to discuss it!
IMHO: Another option is possible - the goal of destroying ISIS in the Kremlin is not set at all, the potential of the Syrian army is increasing, then ISIS hinting that they have nothing to do in Syria and Iraq, but you can frolic in Saudi Arabia, Libya and, a little bit, in Europe, along the way raising the price of oil and returning Europeans to the real world ...

[31rus]

Your version is the most suitable and correct for Russia, but you forget "who pays, he orders" and ISIS will not go to war on the same Saudi Arabia until they are forced there by force, and the GDP will not build "intrigues" of the EU (although we should), Turkey, we are unlikely to go to Iraq, Iran will steer there (with our support) over Syria, I think it's time to declare a no-fly zone for everyone who is not with us, but after the speech of the GDP at the UN, when it will be visible balance of power

[vladim.gorbunow]

True, the operational task is to create a corridor along the Turkish border under the control of the Syrians, Kurds, Iranians, and stop the trade in stolen oil. Keep afloat the Baghdad government. And let the graduates of Russian military universities, they are former commanders of the Hussein’s army, the current ISIS break through the corridor through Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudi front does not hinder the Saudis. And the igil will have to pull oil pipelines through the desert without air defense.

[Gray 43]

Now, after the staffers discovered our aircraft in Syria, we should expect an increase in the supply of MANPADS of the "moderate opposition", that is, ISIS, otherwise they cannot since the Afghan war, and Russia wants to spoil it very much

[Sergey-72]

Baluyevsky, of course, knows better, but abstract calls to build up something, "expand and deepen" (c) are already boring. How much is needed and how much is already shipped in pieces tons and liters It would sound clearer if there is an opportunity to discuss it!

But who will say that. And where is the guarantee that our equipment will not be in the IGL?
It seems to me after the UN assembly that something will be clear, but for now the seams.

[Old26]

Quote: Penetrator

This is definitely not necessary. America is the worst enemy for most Arabs. And any joint actions with it will turn Russia into an enemy of the Arab world. It is one thing, together with the Arabs and Persians, to revoke the messengers from ISIS, and it is another to do this with the help and commissioned by overseas shaitans.

Stop it. If necessary, and the Arabs act together with the Americans, without hesitation. They act on the principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." It was necessary, and Egypt and Syria participated in a coalition with the United States. So it is here. There will be a common enemy (and he already exists), and the most irreconcilable fighters with the Americans will be on a par with them

[Reptiloid]

Quote: engineer74

Baluyevsky, of course, knows better, but abstract appeals to build up something, "expand and deepen" (c) are already boring. How much is needed and how much has already been shipped in tons and liters would sound clearer if there was an opportunity to discuss it!
IMHO: Another option is possible - the goal of destroying ISIS in the Kremlin is not set at all, the potential of the Syrian army is increasing, then ISIS hinting that they have nothing to do in Syria and Iraq, but you can frolic in Saudi Arabia, Libya and, a little bit, in Europe, along the way raising the price of oil and returning Europeans to the real world ...

Let me continue your thought. The United States is busy with internal affairs, ISIS in Arabia is engaged in state-building, the war in Syria has stopped. The state of Syria is no more. There is a Damascus Republic, as A.N.K.L.A.V. Russian Federation. The prophecy of Vanga is coming true. Cold in Europe. Syrians are returning home from Europe with hotels.

[Krasmash]

And how does China Assad help? Like that, so the Russian Railways is vomiting for everyone, as if she needed it most.

[Kalmar]

The Russian Federation has a kind of MTO point in Tartus, which is kind of a pity to lose. And then, since our leadership has decided to present the Russian Federation in the role of a great empire (this topic has been actively promoted since the moment of "krymnash"), then it is necessary at least to portray an active defense of our interests in the international arena. There are, however, fears that again everything will end in nothing.

[alone]

Quote: Krasmash

And how does China Assad help? Like that, so the Russian Railways is vomiting for everyone, as if she needed it most.

Have you ever seen in the last 25-30 years that China helps someone? China has its own policy, the policy of a sly fox. You will still see how, after this conflict ends (and sooner or later it ends), the Chinese will fill Syria's expanses and begin billions of dollars of investments and repair work on the hands of Chinese workers and specialists. something that others offer to do for $ 3, the Chinese do for $ 1.

[Dwarfik]

Quote: Penetrator

We do not need to now be in a situation where the Americans, under good pretext, say: "Let's act in Syria against ISIS together."

This is definitely not necessary. America is the worst enemy for most Arabs. And any joint actions with it will turn Russia into an enemy of the Arab world. It is one thing, together with the Arabs and Persians, to revoke the messengers from ISIS, and it is another to do this with the help and commissioned by overseas shaitans.

And for us, mattresses are our worst friend?)

[dojjdik]

UN empty bureaucrats organization this is clear to everyone, with a raid on the phantom igil a little in a hurry because any use of aviation is an expensive pleasure; besides this, there is Iran — while Assad is milking the Jews, it is possible and necessary to help the Persians along with the Chinese, including rearm the Ayatollah’s army; because the next after Syria will be Iran

[Armax]

"... After all, we know well how it happens -" together with the United States. "The main thing is that it does not work out that they will bomb Syria from the air, and we will find ourselves involved in ground operations," the general said.

I completely agree, from them in a similar situation, you can expect any set-ups.
Some allies do not want to have something above their heads.

[Old26]

Quote: engineer74

Baluyevsky, of course, knows better, but abstract appeals to build up something, "expand and deepen" (c) are already boring. How much is needed and how much has already been shipped in tons and liters would sound clearer if there was an opportunity to discuss it!

Maybe serial and side numbers of cars? How many cartridges and shells and what caliber? Sorry, but you are stupid. After all, you perfectly understand that this is classified information. The maximum that can be obtained by "smashing" the Internet at the beginning of next year is the number of certain weapon systems, and even then not all

Quote: engineer74

Further, ISIS hinted that in Syria and Iraq they have nothing to do, and you can frolic in Saudi Arabia, Libya and, a little, in Europe,

And they will listen to these hints and switch to the above. What their supreme leader says to them, they will do it. And with hints of Russia (as well as of the rest of the world) they will simply wipe off. They do not care about the opinions and hints of everyone else, because they are well aware that destroying them is very difficult. This is not a state with infrastructure that can be destroyed. This is a quasi-state that has neither the capital nor the rear, nothing generally recognized by the state

[vyinemeynen]

If the General Staff has already spoken! Without an ORDER, such people are usually silent!
I see: this is a statement for domestic use that there will NOT be a land-based large-scale military operation. The word COALITION was spoken; are we waiting for its creation after the visit of GDP to the UN?

[creak]

Quote: vyinemeynen

If the General Staff has already spoken! Without an ORDER, such people are usually silent!

But the General Staff did not say anything about this - Baluevsky was dismissed from the post of the National High School in 2008 and transferred to the Security Council.
He is currently retired altogether - well, what does the General Staff have to do with it? Who can give him orders now except for his wife?
And the current NGS really is silent - tell the surname or find out for yourself?

[loaln]

“We do not need now to find ourselves in a situation where the Americans, under a good excuse, will say:“ Let's act in Syria against ISIS together. ” After all, we know well how it happens ... "

And so it will be. And all that is needed is to show by their own, and not coalitional, actions that in Syria they have no chance. And, here is the path to the East, to their creators and trainers open. After all, sooner or later, but the tamed beast, if it does not lift it, then certainly it will pat its master well. A good deed never goes unpunished.

[DHA]

Quote: Krasmash

And how does China Assad help? Like that, so the Russian Railways is vomiting for everyone, as if she needed it most.

the Chinese are still "peaches" you don't really have to rely on them, all just yourself

[Stena]

It is difficult to comment on the situation - not knowing the exact (or at least approximate) numbers. We do not know the volumes of already completed deliveries and those planned. Two natural questions arise: Does Russia receive any real, not ephemeral, benefits? (money for delivered products, contracts for the development of mineral deposits, etc.). If - yes - then what, if - no, then why do we need all this? Again, the repetition of the USSR, which financed Arabs, Vietnamese, Cubans, etc. for the sake of the obscure victory of communism. If someone can tell me (just not desirable slogans - like, we will become a world power again, end the unipolar world, etc. bullshit) - I will be grateful. And the request - do not send me something to google there - if you yourself do not know - then do not write. Thank.

[andj61]

Quote: Stena

five repetition of the USSR, which financed Arabs, Vietnamese, Cubans, etc. for the sake of the indistinct victory of communism.

You know, Russia's consistency in supporting an ally - albeit not very good - is worth a lot. And Russia's reputation, as a result, has grown incredibly. Remember when Saudi princes came to us? I will not mention this even during the USSR! And now it is. Yes, and the military will practice - without widespread interference in the conflict, of course - also a plus. Or do you think that it is better to train at your side, where there are reasons and an urgent need?
And ISIS problems are best addressed when they are far from our borders. And if you still come to a consensus with China on this issue (although I don’t really believe it), it’s generally excellent!

[alone]

Only one thing is interesting. Those who loudly declare the need for direct military participation of the RF Armed Forces in the Syrian conflict, will they themselves go to fight there? Knowing that you can easily die

[creak]

Quote: lonely

Only one thing is interesting. Those who loudly declare the need for direct military participation of the RF Armed Forces in the Syrian conflict, will they themselves go to fight there?

So they do not talk about their participation - how can they fight where there is no sofa, no beer ... Let
others are at war, they will provide them with moral support, be proud of the country's contribution to the fight against terrorists and swing a saber at home ...
Just like in that old song: "
We do not sow, do not plow, do not build
We are proud of the social order ... "

[roskot]

He also stressed that military-technical assistance to Damascus "was, is and should be."

Here we will dwell on this.