The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev, 24 September 2015

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The Middle East, ISIL, and Syria are inevitably becoming the main theme not only of the upcoming UN General Assembly, but of the entire global policy. This is a rare case when political issues change literally before our eyes.

"We need to talk with all actors, including Assad," said Angela Merkel.

Yes, it really ?! Frau Chancellor is often charged with not being directly voiced by representatives of the US administration. So what actually happens?

Bloomberg announces the dismissal of General John Allen, in fact, the coordinator for Washington in the notorious anti-Igilov coalition. According to Bloomberg, Allen’s decision was caused by his disillusionment with the management of the war by the White House.

In fact, the reason for the dismissal of Allen is that the White House was disappointed in the war that Allen and his accomplices imposed on him.
General John Allen managed twice to resume the war against Syria, reminds Thierry Meyssan, a French orientalist and conspiracy theorist. In June, 12, when they, along with CIA head Petraeus and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, sabotaged the Geneva agreement between Moscow and Washington to establish peace in Syria. After the election, Obama managed to get rid of Petraeus and Clinton, but not from the war curator John Allen. In December, the 14 trio - Clinton, Allen, Petraeus - did everything to convince the Syrian opposition to sabotage the Moscow conference. Today, General Petraeus proposes to protect the Sunnis from the Syrian army's bombardment as a solution to the Syrian problem, and then they will support the Americans in their fight against ISIL.

It is easy to see that all these structures have as their necessary element at least the destruction of Syria.

"Despite concerns about Russia's military buildup in Syria," the New York Times writes, "Kerry said that the Obama administration would welcome the role of the Russian forces if they were focused on fighting ISIS." But at the same time, the support of Assad is unacceptable.

What is this ?! At the moment, the Syrian regular army is the main force fighting against ISIS, and Russia wants to help this core force against ISIL. The Obama administration does not object to Russia increasing its military potential in Syria instead of the regular Syrian army. Is it so necessary to understand? Does he even hint at anything ?!

Notice, we are not at all about that. We argue that the success of any agreement to combat ISIL depends on the recognition of the role of Syria and Assad. And the word of Mrs. Merkel is so valuable because it, as a rule, reflects the opinion of famous circles of the progressive public.
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  1. +31
    25 September 2015 07: 26
    The Obama administration does not mind Russia building up its military capabilities in Syria instead of the regular Syrian army. This is so to be understood ?! What is he hinting at ?!

    This should be understood as follows: the United States is not opposed to Russia being handled in the same way as the states in other places, because without real support from the local population, no one can control anything.
    1. +4
      25 September 2015 08: 08
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The Obama administration does not mind Russia building up its military potential in Syria



      Hands of chestnuts made of fire with strangers?
      1. +7
        25 September 2015 08: 59
        Hands of chestnuts made of fire with strangers?

        Exactly. America wanted Russia stuck in the fighting in Ukraine. Now Russia is literally like a child lured with candy in Syria. I really hope our oil and gas industry workers do not lobby for sending full-fledged parts to Syria, they have nothing to do there.
        But the equipment on credit (but Syria Schaub paid it over the unobtrusive future, for example, by territories under the base, and various nishtyaks that are not sold), you must send specialists, or you’ve stumbled across Ukraine, where you can gain some experience hiding.
    2. +4
      25 September 2015 08: 32
      This suggests that the United States is not opposed to Russia arranging a second Afghanistan for itself. But there is nothing going on here. Putin has not yet taken the bait.
      1. +20
        25 September 2015 09: 13
        At the Yalta conference they discussed how to execute Hitler after the end of the war. Churchill suggested tying him to the mouth of the cannon and firing. Roosevelt offered to put him on an electric chair. Stalin says: but I propose to take an iron rod, heat one of its ends to red and put the cold end of the rod in his ass. And why the cold end - Churchill was surprised.
        - And so that the allies would not be pulled out.

        How many years have passed, but nothing is changing.
    3. +1
      25 September 2015 08: 51
      I agree Russia needs to be extremely careful not to be framed by "allies"!
    4. +2
      25 September 2015 09: 26
      Can. Only then the local population will not remain ... in general ... soldier
    5. 0
      25 September 2015 09: 44
      it’s not clear whether the US wants Russia to put things in order there, but in the regulations of the USA itself?
      1. WKS
        +3
        25 September 2015 11: 10
        Yes, and Russia is not the same as it was in the times of the 1st and 2nd world. She will no longer throw tens of thousands of her soldiers to plug holes in the Allied fronts, or organize unprepared offensives to divert the enemy’s forces onto herself. Now plug these holes with your Americans, French, and especially the British, and we will give weapons and instructors at best, or just sympathize and express our condolences.
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    7. +2
      25 September 2015 10: 45
      Fight Ign, but against Assad? What is it like? belay
      This is how to treat a patient, but that he certainly died laughing
    8. +1
      25 September 2015 12: 27
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The Obama administration does not mind Russia building up its military capabilities in Syria instead of the regular Syrian army. This is so to be understood ?! What is he hinting at ?!

      This should be understood as follows: the United States is not opposed to Russia being handled in the same way as the states in other places, because without real support from the local population, no one can control anything.


      This must be understood so that America will always try to harm the Russian Federation, especially if the damage is irreparable.
  2. +11
    25 September 2015 07: 33
    Putin's future speech at the UN General Assembly both "provoked both Merkel to such a passage, and the semi-ruberoid, and forced him to meet with the President of Russia. The initiative was missed. It's a pity that all these "... circles of the progressive public." diverge like circles on water.
  3. +12
    25 September 2015 07: 39
    The morning came in the anthill, they stirred ............. yesterday they didn’t want to hear about Putin, but now they’re ready to lick. But it’s not for nothing that politicians are compared with prostitutes!
    1. +2
      25 September 2015 09: 13
      it’s just that the Americans began to weaken and then even the loyal mongrel began to bustle
      1. 0
        25 September 2015 20: 24
        Quote: Pathfinder
        it’s just that the Americans began to weaken and then even the loyal mongrel began to bustle

        The Americans, of course, began to weaken, they are no longer enough for all the "holes", but unfortunately, they still have enough strength for their "mongrels" and without Washington's "connivance" (permission), Merkel will not voice such "seditious" ideas ...
  4. +2
    25 September 2015 07: 47
    If we discard all the behind-the-scenes political troubles, it is obvious that the rhetoric of the West has begun to change. And this already inspires slight optimism.
    1. +1
      25 September 2015 12: 48
      The United States very purposefully swayed the Middle East, so that later, with the help of IS, it could be taken over. Before the onset of chaos, all that remained was to destroy Syria and Arabia. But the creation of a military-economic link between the Russian Federation and Iran and, most likely, the incorporation of China there, suggests that a big battle is beginning for this region. Moreover, this region is extremely important to China. The joint potential of the RF-Iran-China will probably close the ISIS project.
      Further access to the USA will be closed there. Moreover, even having created a bunch of Israel-USA-Turkey there (which is unlikely, Turkey is also interested in a certain stability of the region, and in conjunction with the United States will only manage scraps when dividing the carcasses), the United States will not be able to regain this region.
      And then, the whole region switches to the interests of Russia, China and Iran. Moreover, this bundle is quite capable of leveling out all the mutual feuds of various religions and supporting a bad world. At the same time, this could include stabilization in northern Africa and Afghanistan.
      So began all kinds of groans of indignation, consultations in Moscow, solitaire and nostradamus.
      In the place of the Indians, I would already fit into this party. But their eggs are not so iron, it seems.
    2. 0
      25 September 2015 20: 20
      "winds" spells correctly - from the word blow!
  5. +3
    25 September 2015 07: 47
    The mattresses were completely overgrown and the shores were tangled.
    Blatantly bastards, bastards!
  6. +2
    25 September 2015 07: 48
    Pulls into the war with Ukraine --- it didn’t work! And now, if Obama doesn’t mind, then they think-the Russian Federation will be happy and hurried.? Do stupid things harm yourself?
    Interestingly, and the 5th column will speak now?
  7. +4
    25 September 2015 07: 51
    The guys in Washington are very, I emphasize, VERY scared of Russia's excessive independence in Syria, if the Russian Federation creates a real coalition with Iran, and China decides to "stretch" the PLA there, this will be the real end of all US policy in the region, then the "scribe" will begin to creep up and to the USA. Let's see how the meeting between Obama and BB in New York ends, I hope it will take place after BB's speech at the General Assembly. There is not a long wait - a couple of days and everything will be decided, we are waiting ...
    1. +2
      25 September 2015 08: 44
      The meeting will take place. It’s already been decided. China needs to solve the demographic question. They have an overabundance of male population. So this alignment with the PLA is real. They even encourage marriages not only with Russian women, but also women of other countries by paying benefits to such families. But they do not encourage for women.
  8. +8
    25 September 2015 07: 55
    And this is generally a masterpiece of absurdology:
    1. +6
      25 September 2015 08: 04
      This roughly translates to normal. Russian troops knead ISIS, We knead Assad when everything is over Syria to us. Here is what he said. Toka horseradish them across the face, not Syria
  9. +5
    25 September 2015 07: 59
    I woke up as Mendeleev ..... Since everything has changed so drastically in our life, the United States is not our friend with Europe and we are developing and strengthening everything. So maybe it's time to collect signatures from the population throughout the country and rename the pro-Western police to their native Police !!! Well, this thought haunts and where else to write I don’t even know, I can refer to it myself)))
    1. +4
      25 September 2015 08: 17
      Police to the police, mayors to the mayors, Petersburg to Petrograd, etc.! fellow
      I'm embarrassed to ask, but what and where will this change? smile
      1. +2
        25 September 2015 09: 11
        Quote: engineer74
        I'm embarrassed to ask, but what and where will this change?

        Much will change, the worldview will begin to return normal, otherwise the inscription on all T-shirts is not Russia or Russia, but in English, it makes me angry, if I rename it, then it will not be angry anymore, and this is good for others! :)
        A joke, but in every joke there is only a fraction of the joke!
        1. 0
          25 September 2015 12: 45
          First you need to turn the brains in the right direction, and then jerseys change signs! And no other way!
          hi
        2. +1
          25 September 2015 20: 35
          Quote: Oleg147741
          Quote: engineer74
          I'm embarrassed to ask, but what and where will this change?

          Much will change, the worldview will begin to return normal, otherwise the inscription on all T-shirts is not Russia or Russia, but in English, it makes me angry, if I rename it, then it will not be angry anymore, and this is good for others! :)
          A joke, but in every joke there is only a fraction of the joke!

          But what if some John is renamed to Vanya, his worldview will change from this and he will suddenly become Russified? ... what
          This is a new word in social science and psychology at the same time, claim the Nobel Prize ... fellow
      2. +1
        25 September 2015 16: 05
        If you change not only the name but also the approach to business by introducing personal responsibility, much will change.
        1. 0
          25 September 2015 20: 40
          Quote: gunya
          If you change not only the name but also the approach to business by introducing personal responsibility, much will change.

          The name in this case can be anything, even, for example, even the gendarmerie, this is, at best, the tenth ...
    2. +8
      25 September 2015 08: 26
      Quote: rudik
      I woke up like Mendeleev .....

      impromptu:

      I wake up like Mendeleev
      In the good old matrix -
      Again twenty three pennies
      It costs buckwheat-kernel ...

      Monument in place again
      And posters of the USSR.
      And drags me to the site
      Mi-li-qi-o-nEr ...
      laughing
      1. +3
        25 September 2015 08: 57
        Quote: Das Boot
        I wake up like Mendeleev

        Quote: Das Boot
        And drags me to the site
        Mi-li-qi-o-nEr ...

        Rhyme is not a poem. You really choose, or you woke up, or they drag you. And it turns out that you woke up in some kind of matrix, and you are already dragged to the site. In the USSR there were no matrices for transporting awakened to the site.
        1. +2
          25 September 2015 09: 32
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Rhyme is not a poem.

          profound maxim. I'll remember.
        2. +1
          25 September 2015 14: 13
          Quote: Алексей_К
          And it turns out that you woke up in some kind of matrix, and you are already dragged to the site

          And I liked it. Everything is normal, even if the policeman is better at the station than the policeman (and they called it a war word from the war) in the mouth.
    3. 0
      25 September 2015 16: 03
      It is high time not only to return the previous name, but also to put things in order by removing unnecessary paperwork and reducing the majority of "guiding and directing" taking as a basis at least the structure of the early 60s.
  10. 0
    25 September 2015 07: 59
    forgot permission to ask gray-haired macaque ... be sure to report.
  11. +8
    25 September 2015 08: 19
    I don’t understand what kind of coalitions speech? Is that about this ... Sorry for the long word, but the States have long been unsuitable. And, in fact, only during the period of world wars they make an effort to manage to crush markets after a batch. A coalition implies a certain parity and coordination based on a reasonable strategy. And these baboons want to dominate and push around. In the XNUMXst, they lost everything that is possible, acting haphazardly and chaotically at the BV theater.
    IMHO.
  12. 0
    25 September 2015 08: 24
    It’s just that the mattresses are used to being ruled by fools and traitors! And I don’t want to rebuild relations, because everything was so profitable and magnificent in the 90s.
  13. +4
    25 September 2015 08: 26
    In fact, this is nothing more than a change in views on Russia's foreign policy.
    the Americans are now called "making a good face with a bad game": they are not in a position to prohibit or in any way interfere with our presence in Syria, the restriction of humanitarian supplies by banning flights of our ILs has also come to naught. The Syria-Russia-Iran coalition is growing stronger.
    What's left for poor Yorick? Only to issue a permissive statement - like "we do not mind, but you are looking there, do not bury yourself, and we (the hegemon) will say ah-ay-ay"

    Shit on hegemons (in general) and on the statement (in particular). Russia is a completely self-sufficient country in order to look back at others in its political decisions. Unlike the rotten Europe, we ourselves are able to determine who is our friend and who ...
  14. 0
    25 September 2015 08: 26
    Quote: Das Boot
    And this is generally a masterpiece of absurdology:

    All the politics of mattresses is the theater of the absurd! But they don’t think so ... fool
    1. +1
      25 September 2015 08: 31
      Quote: Aviator 66
      All the politics of mattresses is the theater of the absurd! But they don’t think so ...

      right. And these are the costs of unipolarity - they themselves establish the rules and civilizational norms. Dissenters will be bombarded into democracy.
  15. +3
    25 September 2015 10: 24
    In fact, the reason for the dismissal of Allen is that the White House was disappointed in the war that Allen and his accomplices imposed on him.
    Well done dance! Blamed everything on the poor general, and the type themselves, neither sleep nor spirit? Like ours, the boyars are crap, and the tsar is not in the know. Ugh! Another attempt to search for the scapegoat, and exposing him as the main culprit.
    1. +1
      25 September 2015 13: 46
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Well done dance! Blamed everything on the poor general, and the type themselves, neither sleep nor spirit?

      so generals poh! Under the conditions of corporate fascism, they harmoniously flow from TNCs to the Pentagon and vice versa) Cheney outsourced all the military logistics laughing Nishtyak! I wouldn’t really regret their generals)
  16. +3
    25 September 2015 13: 39
    Churchill somehow answered the question - Why are there no anti-Semites in England? Because the British do not believe that their Jews are smarter.
    All this screech on the forum comes down to stating the fact that the Americans will beguiling us again, they are the smartest.
    How did you decide this? screw up over and over again. lose their positions. yes - they are still number one, but if you compare their influence and power at the time of the arrival of Bush-papa, Clinton and Obama, the schedule will go strictly down. They go over to counterattacks, they are still very capable of shitting, but ..... they are like the Germans in 1943. Still very strong, but the result is clear and it's time to start writing memoirs. And our task is to just live, do our job and shout less in the internet: "Chief - everything is gone, the plaster is removed, the client is leaving" ... Kozladoevs, however.
  17. 0
    25 September 2015 18: 19
    All bugs were imported from the West due to the fact that Putin V.V. mixed all the cards with them, because the Yankees are losing the ISIS they put on so long ago. They have a thin gut to fight with Russia, but they need to report to their people in order for Assad to be removed in any way. Otherwise they will ask what did the black baboon do his presidential term
    1. 0
      25 September 2015 19: 14
      And we have to fight with America, the gut is not thin ??????
  18. 0
    25 September 2015 20: 33
    Quote: Petrik66
    And we have to fight with America, the gut is not thin ??????

    Do they want this? They always fought with us with other people’s hands, as now the Ukrainians-traitors of their country! Yes, and they got used to fight with their equal enemy! So ask them about it! hi
  19. +1
    26 September 2015 22: 58
    Quote: Petrik66
    And we have to fight with America, the gut is not thin ??????

    Well, you got excited. What is it about tan, other than stamped green paper, that makes "intestines thin"? negative All their last victories are allegedly against Bedouins with rifles and, moreover, were made in controlled news agencies with underestimation of their real losses.
  20. 0
    27 September 2015 21: 55
    "Primus" - Primakov said: America is not a paper tiger, America is very serious.
    Why are we so nervous about their ships entering the Black Sea? Or are we messed up with the change of government in the Channel? And the Americans keep their gos.nachki in rubles? We are afraid of them militarily no less than they are, but they have much more opportunities. And in economic terms - we put it mildly - not a match. But the ministers and the head of the Fed of America studied at Moscow State University and go there for advice?
    Paper heroes - they say they coped with the Bedouins ... So we didn’t deal with them especially in 1979 - 1989? or memory cheated on you? stories about there was no order, otherwise we would pile on them ... What did not pile on ?.

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